Want your help, wordsmiths View Thread Reply Hide Ian Blimblewig - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:25:45 EST KR0otAvU No.11859 File: 1416180345621.jpg -(97639B / 95.35KB, 894x894) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What's the shortest, most powerful one syllable word you can come up with, original or not? For example "Tao" and "God" are short, unoriginal 'powerful' words and "Dog" is another short one syllable word. What words can you come up with? 17 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Chuj - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:10:02 EST o7JJ3EeW No.12264 Reply Ul. Beehive in polish >> Jarvis Sunkinsat - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 19:54:41 EST LAGTMvmi No.12265 Reply >>11859fag >> James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:34:09 EST uyEVv9RZ No.12284 Reply 1438965249354.png -(1486345B / 1.42MB, 1024x768) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. MEMES GET
>> James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:34:09 EST uyEVv9RZ No.12284 Reply 1438965249354.png -(1486345B / 1.42MB, 1024x768) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. MEMES GET
How to pronounce: Ö & Ä? View Thread Reply Hide James Cungerpore - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 02:41:31 EST RYQ9LXTa No.12233 File: 1437201691530.jpg -(748503B / 730.96KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ever wondered how to pronounce those scandinavian letters Ä and Ö? Well here's how: BIRDMAN is essentially BÖÖRDMÄÄN. Hope that helps! 10 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Archie Sinkinbitch - Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:15:45 EST W2NXF8Cu No.12267 Reply >>12266lol. >> Archie Greenbury - Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:18:59 EST /hq3aXTW No.12268 Reply >scandinavian lettersnigga what.my language even has Ő. Also Ű. And Í. And Ó.I'm not even scandinavian.Get on my level. >> James Clayway - Fri, 07 Aug 2015 12:32:52 EST uyEVv9RZ No.12282 Reply EHHUEHUEHUEEHEHUEE
>> Archie Greenbury - Wed, 05 Aug 2015 01:18:59 EST /hq3aXTW No.12268 Reply >scandinavian lettersnigga what.my language even has Ő. Also Ű. And Í. And Ó.I'm not even scandinavian.Get on my level.
writing a short story in a foreign language View Thread Reply Hide Hugh Begglenat - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:31:08 EST PGQjFfMj No.12240 File: 1437305468998.jpg -(131201B / 128.13KB, 1740x1501) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hello, group.In the last three years, i began to write profusely in English, my natural language being french.However, i know that i have not reached t complete fluency in writing yet,Could you read an excerpt of the following story and make judgement on my english skills ? I have been told that i am not better than google translate and this seems a bit excessive... But on the other hand, i know i am not perfect.Let you be the judge.http://writeessaysandphilo.blogspot.pt/ >> George Nicklebanks - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:52:26 EST s7tRuAtf No.12242 Reply Your writing has the choppy quality that I would expect from someone who is still learning English, but it is readable, understandable, and there were even some descriptions that I found pleasant to read. I only scanned your story for about 30 seconds, so keep that in mind. Actually, some of science fiction parts went over my head, and I could not even tell if you were using the words appropriately or not. So in some ways, you may be better at English than I am. That is an interesting thing about learning a second language, you have a whole fluent history in another tongue that gives you an advantage, but as a whole your language skills are uneven.I would say that you are well on your way toward becoming fluent and you are doing a terrific job. GOLD STAR. Who is a good boy? Yes, you are. Yes. >> Beatrice Fasslefield - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:03:10 EST TEw5sPgq No.12243 Reply The actual english is OK, but you've got some weird line breaks in there, and need more paragraphs/whitespace. The formatting makes it very hard to read, not the english. Also, you might want to cut back a little on the exposition. Instead of talking about 'stratum 0', try to just imply these different levels of class. Too many sci-fi authors want to label every little detail of their world. This isn't necessary. *Show*, don't *tell*. I get that it's like it's hard-coded in the society's technology, but unecesasry terminology is really cliche in sci-fi. I would also think of alternative words for 'disinterfacement'. It's just a clunky, ugly word.As far as grammar, there's a few quirks. Like these:>Rough was wintertime when you started to need flash-lights in order to roam this soulless urban space, > But they had not the power of disinterfacement,These sentences are constructed in a pretentious way, that sounds silly and out of place. You went from terse Kurt Vonnegut prose to 18th century romance novel prose.Fix the formatting first, because walls of text with weird line breaks are no good to read. You want paragraphs.
>> George Nicklebanks - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:52:26 EST s7tRuAtf No.12242 Reply Your writing has the choppy quality that I would expect from someone who is still learning English, but it is readable, understandable, and there were even some descriptions that I found pleasant to read. I only scanned your story for about 30 seconds, so keep that in mind. Actually, some of science fiction parts went over my head, and I could not even tell if you were using the words appropriately or not. So in some ways, you may be better at English than I am. That is an interesting thing about learning a second language, you have a whole fluent history in another tongue that gives you an advantage, but as a whole your language skills are uneven.I would say that you are well on your way toward becoming fluent and you are doing a terrific job. GOLD STAR. Who is a good boy? Yes, you are. Yes.
>> Beatrice Fasslefield - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:03:10 EST TEw5sPgq No.12243 Reply The actual english is OK, but you've got some weird line breaks in there, and need more paragraphs/whitespace. The formatting makes it very hard to read, not the english. Also, you might want to cut back a little on the exposition. Instead of talking about 'stratum 0', try to just imply these different levels of class. Too many sci-fi authors want to label every little detail of their world. This isn't necessary. *Show*, don't *tell*. I get that it's like it's hard-coded in the society's technology, but unecesasry terminology is really cliche in sci-fi. I would also think of alternative words for 'disinterfacement'. It's just a clunky, ugly word.As far as grammar, there's a few quirks. Like these:>Rough was wintertime when you started to need flash-lights in order to roam this soulless urban space, > But they had not the power of disinterfacement,These sentences are constructed in a pretentious way, that sounds silly and out of place. You went from terse Kurt Vonnegut prose to 18th century romance novel prose.Fix the formatting first, because walls of text with weird line breaks are no good to read. You want paragraphs.
english films dubbed in arabic View Thread Reply Hide Phineas Drusslefitch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 04:16:49 EST FMWK7G0C No.12234 File: 1437207409068.png -(161351B / 157.57KB, 760x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm at a point in my arabic studies where textbooks and all that aren't getting me much further. When I got to this point with spanish I started watching movies I knew well dubbed in spanish alongside the original english scene by scene until I could move on to actual spanish films. With arabic though, the only torrents I can find are for Dysney movies, all in MSA and Egyptian. Does anyone know where I can find, like, any other movies or TV shows? Fight Club in particular I have pretty much memorized in English and Spanish, so that would be perfect, but others would be fine as well. I'd prefer the levantine dialect (especially lebanese) but MSA or Egyptian is fine too I guess. 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:10:23 EST YAhfzJaq No.12237 Reply Plenty of Arabic films in Netflix. Check it out. >> Nell Sammerson - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:27:48 EST 5kAIVeLX No.12238 Reply >>12237Don't got Netflix. 2poor >> Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:36:57 EST YAhfzJaq No.12239 Reply >>12238Dont make this an excuse. jolly african-american.
>> Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:10:23 EST YAhfzJaq No.12237 Reply Plenty of Arabic films in Netflix. Check it out.
>> Nell Sammerson - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:27:48 EST 5kAIVeLX No.12238 Reply >>12237Don't got Netflix. 2poor
>> Clara Dubblechetch - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:36:57 EST YAhfzJaq No.12239 Reply >>12238Dont make this an excuse. jolly african-american.
Swearing/curse words View Thread Reply Hide Martha Trotdale - Sun, 24 May 2015 07:19:24 EST +sj1g0/i No.12141 File: 1432466364988.jpg -(30185B / 29.48KB, 600x479) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What do you think is the best language for swearing?Like which ones would feels the best to throw at someone and how aggressive they sound as well? 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:06:11 EST s7OgtqBn No.12219 Reply English >> John Gibbledock - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:59:22 EST h8A5L0NL No.12227 Reply >>12193vernacular italian has plenty of insults to all sorts of people, including gods >> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:29:02 EST CEs+htsk No.12361 Reply 1439058542655.jpg -(1285801B / 1.23MB, 2496x1504) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Portugues.swarthy as fuck. look at portugal's location and realize every vessel travelling, trading, exploring or going to war to or from the mediterranean had to pass by it then think about all the sailors and pirates and whores and syphillis and drunken arguments and bar fights that goes with that. the circumstances giving rise to that language and its epithets are surely a god damned scandal! This would apply to general Gibralter area of course, it's jsut that.. ahh the way portuguese is spoken just has such scurvy potential and the language itsself is like a whore who's had a tongue lashing from all the scoundrels of euorpe, africa and the near east at least and you know sea dogs are sloppy drunk when they were spitting those curses too. it's perfect versatile language for a port town whore to mumble curses in with a mouth full o man's members arrrr.>pirates, seamen, slavers, smugglers, faggy lords, perverts, italians and crazyfolkstribe**who omg babe would you get a load a that map?? who loves ya?
>> John Gibbledock - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 06:59:22 EST h8A5L0NL No.12227 Reply >>12193vernacular italian has plenty of insults to all sorts of people, including gods
>> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Sat, 08 Aug 2015 14:29:02 EST CEs+htsk No.12361 Reply 1439058542655.jpg -(1285801B / 1.23MB, 2496x1504) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Portugues.swarthy as fuck. look at portugal's location and realize every vessel travelling, trading, exploring or going to war to or from the mediterranean had to pass by it then think about all the sailors and pirates and whores and syphillis and drunken arguments and bar fights that goes with that. the circumstances giving rise to that language and its epithets are surely a god damned scandal! This would apply to general Gibralter area of course, it's jsut that.. ahh the way portuguese is spoken just has such scurvy potential and the language itsself is like a whore who's had a tongue lashing from all the scoundrels of euorpe, africa and the near east at least and you know sea dogs are sloppy drunk when they were spitting those curses too. it's perfect versatile language for a port town whore to mumble curses in with a mouth full o man's members arrrr.>pirates, seamen, slavers, smugglers, faggy lords, perverts, italians and crazyfolkstribe**who omg babe would you get a load a that map?? who loves ya?
New Punctuation View Thread Reply Hide Oliver Buzzshit - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 02:47:37 EST 1C+Flis7 No.12223 File: 1436942857855.gif -(71126B / 69.46KB, 553x498) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Every day life on earth becomes a little more text based. We text more than we talk, and the things we write down will out live our bodies.I've noticed as this happens, punctuation has failed to keep up and it's becoming annoying. Has anyone else felt this? Like you need more symbols to properly convey exactly your tone and intent?I feel like we definitely need a new punctuation mark somewhere between the fullstop and the exclamation point. There are so many times I am writing something and it's emotional enough that the fullstop is just too mundane. But an exclamation point is not accurate either, it's too intense and overuse is quite frankly starting to devalue it. I suggest something like an exclamation point but with a cross on top instead of just a vertical line.Also we need a new set of alternate quotation marks, it feels weird to quote something that already has quotes in it, and it ends on a quoted sentence so you end up with two quotation marks right nest to each other. Like if I wanted to quote a news story that was all like "In his defense, Area Man says his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. "I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to.""You see how awkward that last bullshit looks? We have 3 separate varieties of brackets for mathematics, (), [], {}. We're at the point where we need a linguistic equivalent.What suggestions do you have /lang/? >> Graham Goodforth - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 03:51:02 EST 20BU4QeQ No.12224 Reply It doesn't matter how much shit you tack onto the latin alphabet. It will not do a satisfactory job of conveying tone. >> CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:23:10 EST JlPHeb6o No.12225 Reply I feel you on the exclamation point thing. I've had a bunch of ideas of how to "improve" the way English is written, but never acted on most of them.About the parentheses though: If you have a quote within a quote, I believe you're supposed to use single quotation marks inside of the doubles. Let's try it.>"In his defense, Area Man says his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to.'"Okay, it still looks a little strange at the end of the sentence. In situations like that, I think it's best just to rewrite the quote so you don't end up with too many quotation marks stacked at the end. Maybe this would work:>"In his defense, Area Man claims his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to,' claims <Area Man's surname>." >> CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:25:50 EST JlPHeb6o No.12226 Reply >>12225And apparently, different quotation marks are used differently depending on whether you use British or American English. I don't want to go into that though.
>> Graham Goodforth - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 03:51:02 EST 20BU4QeQ No.12224 Reply It doesn't matter how much shit you tack onto the latin alphabet. It will not do a satisfactory job of conveying tone.
>> CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:23:10 EST JlPHeb6o No.12225 Reply I feel you on the exclamation point thing. I've had a bunch of ideas of how to "improve" the way English is written, but never acted on most of them.About the parentheses though: If you have a quote within a quote, I believe you're supposed to use single quotation marks inside of the doubles. Let's try it.>"In his defense, Area Man says his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to.'"Okay, it still looks a little strange at the end of the sentence. In situations like that, I think it's best just to rewrite the quote so you don't end up with too many quotation marks stacked at the end. Maybe this would work:>"In his defense, Area Man claims his naked marathon is beneficial for the community. 'I believe I am providing the sexual education public schools are afraid to,' claims <Area Man's surname>."
>> CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 04:25:50 EST JlPHeb6o No.12226 Reply >>12225And apparently, different quotation marks are used differently depending on whether you use British or American English. I don't want to go into that though.
heiroglyphs View Thread Reply Hide Ebenezer Saffingberk - Sun, 31 May 2015 21:46:23 EST kZ9ruhQR No.12155 File: 1433123183327.png -(2692B / 2.63KB, 196x274) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anybody know the meaning of this symbol? May be egyptian?Rough picture by the way.Thanks. 8 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 09:40:55 EST 60ieSg2M No.12202 Reply >>12155It means "Satan up yo butt" (Nah, j/k. . . but it could) >> Beatrice Hunnergold - Mon, 29 Jun 2015 03:22:07 EST l3bN8S44 No.12206 Reply >>12155Too simple. Gonna need context. >> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:47:48 EST CEs+htsk No.12210 Reply 1435956468744.jpg -(379395B / 370.50KB, 600x719) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>12155where'd you find it and why do you think it might be egyptian? Looks like it could refer to the proper direction to procede if it's not a poseidon or devil thingif it's grafitti it could be a Folk Staff, though it shouldnt have parabolic forks, they ought to be 90º angles
>> Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 09:40:55 EST 60ieSg2M No.12202 Reply >>12155It means "Satan up yo butt" (Nah, j/k. . . but it could)
>> Beatrice Hunnergold - Mon, 29 Jun 2015 03:22:07 EST l3bN8S44 No.12206 Reply >>12155Too simple. Gonna need context.
>> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:47:48 EST CEs+htsk No.12210 Reply 1435956468744.jpg -(379395B / 370.50KB, 600x719) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>12155where'd you find it and why do you think it might be egyptian? Looks like it could refer to the proper direction to procede if it's not a poseidon or devil thingif it's grafitti it could be a Folk Staff, though it shouldnt have parabolic forks, they ought to be 90º angles
Esperanto & Duolingo View Thread Reply Hide James Pengernug - Fri, 29 May 2015 12:17:22 EST kscWCA1l No.12152 File: 1432916242141.jpg -(50195B / 49.02KB, 526x394) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. An article about the New York Esperanto Society and the new Duolingo Esperanto course. http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/29/8672371/learn-esperanto-language-duolingo-app-origin-history >> Nigger Drummertedge - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:26:04 EST QPZGgFX/ No.12182 Reply This makes me wanna learn Esperanto in earnest rather than kinda here n there like I'm doing now. I appreciate the link OP. >> Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:59:32 EST hvUGT5Yh No.12205 Reply 1435456772377.jpg -(43537B / 42.52KB, 375x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Not sure what 420chan allows advertising-wise but I thought I'd mention there is a pretty active esperanto-language chan board called Verda-Chan. >> Doris Gesslechutch - Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:39:53 EST kscWCA1l No.12207 Reply >>12182Here are some resources to learn the language:http://www.esperanto.com.au/learn-esperanto/learning-online/
>> Nigger Drummertedge - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:26:04 EST QPZGgFX/ No.12182 Reply This makes me wanna learn Esperanto in earnest rather than kinda here n there like I'm doing now. I appreciate the link OP.
>> Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:59:32 EST hvUGT5Yh No.12205 Reply 1435456772377.jpg -(43537B / 42.52KB, 375x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Not sure what 420chan allows advertising-wise but I thought I'd mention there is a pretty active esperanto-language chan board called Verda-Chan.
>> Doris Gesslechutch - Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:39:53 EST kscWCA1l No.12207 Reply >>12182Here are some resources to learn the language:http://www.esperanto.com.au/learn-esperanto/learning-online/
This is driving me up the wall. Does this word not exist in English? View Thread Reply Hide Jack Clunnershaw - Mon, 25 May 2015 01:48:29 EST QPZGgFX/ No.12145 File: 1432532909525.jpg -(86985B / 84.95KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tl;dr at bottom.I've been running into a whole bunch of situations to use a certain word, but the only problem is, I can't seem to think of what it could possibly be. It all started when I watched Brother Bear with my girlfriend. I noticed everyone's totem animals tended to represent more what they were missing/lacking in their lives/personalities than representations of their actual selves, even if not literally. For the unfamiliar, the main character needed to feel more love, or something, so he turned into a bear, which totemically represented love. Another character was assigned the dog (wisdom) totem, because he's kind of a dumbass. You see? And I thought it was a brilliant concept, that there could be a word/thing that represents, purely, that which is missing. So, after the movie was over, I looked up the etymology and meaning of (a) "totem", but was disappointed to find it wasn't exactly what I was thinking about. However, I haven't been able to find a word that does mean what I'm talking about ever since "totem" left this gap in my head for a word that has a certain meaning/concept. (Ironically, this word would describe itself, in my case.) That concept being: Something that is something missing; something that fills a gap which it specifically fulfills (in a square-peg-square-hole kinda way); something that represents anything (could be something like "confidence") missing. Any word in any language would do, I just need this word because I keep coming into situations in which I want to use this word, as if my brain thinks it contains such a word when it actually doesn't or no such word exists. I've searched plenty of reverse dictionaries and thesauruses to no avail. I've come across plenty of antonyms, ironically enough ("lacuna", "gap", etc).>TL;DR >What is a word that means "Something that is The Thing that is missing; something that fills a gap which it specifically fulfills; something that represents anything missing"? Any language is fine. I'd prefer if the word was explained in depth.Thank you kind travelers. Be safe.Pic unrelated. 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Jack Clunnershaw - Mon, 25 May 2015 03:16:13 EST QPZGgFX/ No.12147 Reply >>12146Ooh! I have been interested in Esperanto because of the ease with which one can fashion together new words like that (or so I gather). So instead of saying "[Comic book character] is my confidence totem," (because this use of "totem" is incorrect, as I found out) I could say "[Comic book character] is my confidence mankaso"? I could also title my folder with hundreds of pictures of artistic inspiration and reference "art mankaso", yes?I appreciate your help polyglotted stranger. >> Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:05:29 EST 60ieSg2M No.12203 Reply >>12145I think what your looking for would be better researched in philosophy than etymology to find your word or term. . . something like an "Epistemological Key" , although I don't think that exactly fits the bill >> Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:56:31 EST hvUGT5Yh No.12204 Reply >>12146I also thought of "mankaĵo" immediately... (assuming you meant mankaĵo...)for OP: mankaĵo literally means "lacking thing", "missing thing" or even "imperfect thing" in the sense that it is lacking something--which actually makes it sort of the opposite of what you want, or at least ambiguous. To be absolutely clear you could say "mankantaĵo" which emphasizes that it is the thing that is currently missing, not just a thing that has to do with missing-ness. Also, weirdly, I'm only here right now because I searched for "homaranismo" on google images and found OP's cheese pic for some reason, and wanted to view the page it was on.As for English...That's really tough. Really the only thing that has come to mind after a few minutes of thinking on it is when people say "the missing piece of the puzzle". So...puzzle piece?
>> Jack Clunnershaw - Mon, 25 May 2015 03:16:13 EST QPZGgFX/ No.12147 Reply >>12146Ooh! I have been interested in Esperanto because of the ease with which one can fashion together new words like that (or so I gather). So instead of saying "[Comic book character] is my confidence totem," (because this use of "totem" is incorrect, as I found out) I could say "[Comic book character] is my confidence mankaso"? I could also title my folder with hundreds of pictures of artistic inspiration and reference "art mankaso", yes?I appreciate your help polyglotted stranger.
>> Nobody - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:05:29 EST 60ieSg2M No.12203 Reply >>12145I think what your looking for would be better researched in philosophy than etymology to find your word or term. . . something like an "Epistemological Key" , although I don't think that exactly fits the bill
>> Sidney Classlewill - Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:56:31 EST hvUGT5Yh No.12204 Reply >>12146I also thought of "mankaĵo" immediately... (assuming you meant mankaĵo...)for OP: mankaĵo literally means "lacking thing", "missing thing" or even "imperfect thing" in the sense that it is lacking something--which actually makes it sort of the opposite of what you want, or at least ambiguous. To be absolutely clear you could say "mankantaĵo" which emphasizes that it is the thing that is currently missing, not just a thing that has to do with missing-ness. Also, weirdly, I'm only here right now because I searched for "homaranismo" on google images and found OP's cheese pic for some reason, and wanted to view the page it was on.As for English...That's really tough. Really the only thing that has come to mind after a few minutes of thinking on it is when people say "the missing piece of the puzzle". So...puzzle piece?
Korean, Learning Approach View Thread Reply Hide Cyril Woffingmun - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 11:58:44 EST e2iJ85hY No.12163 File: 1433347124765.jpg -(250395B / 244.53KB, 980x702) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi, so having never learned a language from scratch before (I'm bilingual, but from birth so I soaked it in as a kid), I'm wondering. What's the best way to approach learning an East Asian language for an English speaker. Or even, a language at all?I tried a few video tutorials going through conversational Korean and how to respond and ask questions, how to introduce yourself, the differences between formal/informal responses but a friend of mine who knows Korean relatively well said it was probably a better idea to start from scratch, from the alphabet and learn the language structure and try to understand it that way.TL;DR Feeling a little lost, how to learn Korean from scratch for an English speaker? 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Martin Crockleson - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 03:44:02 EST ncvjLqgb No.12183 Reply learning japanese for me was tramatizing. i would say fuck rote learning and take it slow learn the alphabet by writing things down that you dont know the translation for but atleast no the context. >> Graham Gimblewill - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:02:22 EST O7Q/1T7A No.12184 Reply >>12163IDK, but the korean alphabet is best alphabet. >> Graham Gimblewill - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:04:44 EST O7Q/1T7A No.12185 Reply >>12184ANd by that, I mean look at the chart. Each character is composed of multiple letters. So it looks like a shitload to learn, but it's really just 14 letters. In practice, I'm sure you eventually learn each symbol by sight. But in theory, you can learn the alphabet in a couple days.
>> Martin Crockleson - Sat, 13 Jun 2015 03:44:02 EST ncvjLqgb No.12183 Reply learning japanese for me was tramatizing. i would say fuck rote learning and take it slow learn the alphabet by writing things down that you dont know the translation for but atleast no the context.
>> Graham Gimblewill - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:02:22 EST O7Q/1T7A No.12184 Reply >>12163IDK, but the korean alphabet is best alphabet.
>> Graham Gimblewill - Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:04:44 EST O7Q/1T7A No.12185 Reply >>12184ANd by that, I mean look at the chart. Each character is composed of multiple letters. So it looks like a shitload to learn, but it's really just 14 letters. In practice, I'm sure you eventually learn each symbol by sight. But in theory, you can learn the alphabet in a couple days.
How do you say X in Y? View Thread Reply Hide Lydia Dangerhun - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:38:40 EST 2SLM4fvR No.12006 File: 1424194720392.jpg -(129569B / 126.53KB, 450x470) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. General thread for wanting to know how to say something in a particular language.How do you say "Nothing to see here", in Schooln, written in Cyrillic? 20 posts and 4 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Archie Lightfuck - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:02:08 EST PA1j1GkT No.12177 Reply >>12173Thanks.Now, "vinograd" is the Slovak word for "vineyard". Can the Schooln word винoгрaд mean this too? >> Martin Cloblinglidge - Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:39:42 EST 13A6+YoB No.12179 Reply >>12176To be honest, no one cares what you have in School because School is shit >> Molly Follynot - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:39:59 EST k3/RB6wa No.12180 Reply >>12177>Can the Schooln word винoгрaд mean this too?No, wineyard is винoгрaдник.
>> Archie Lightfuck - Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:02:08 EST PA1j1GkT No.12177 Reply >>12173Thanks.Now, "vinograd" is the Slovak word for "vineyard". Can the Schooln word винoгрaд mean this too?
>> Martin Cloblinglidge - Thu, 11 Jun 2015 16:39:42 EST 13A6+YoB No.12179 Reply >>12176To be honest, no one cares what you have in School because School is shit
>> Molly Follynot - Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:39:59 EST k3/RB6wa No.12180 Reply >>12177>Can the Schooln word винoгрaд mean this too?No, wineyard is винoгрaдник.
Lost in Translation View Thread Reply Hide Hannah Fattingville - Fri, 23 Jan 2015 23:21:25 EST 7eexnvjt No.11974 File: 1422073285247.jpg -(261403B / 255.28KB, 1280x872) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Let's lament in this thread many great things lost that are difficult to translate from language to language.I was watching The Jungle Book with my niece, and that song "bare necessities" came on. The joke of the song is that Baloo is a bear, so the phrase "bare necessities" could also be heard as "bear necessities." I loved the word play, but quickly began thinking about how such a song couldn't work in another language, unless there happens to be another language in which the word for "minimal" happens to be a homophone with the word for "bear." I often think of all the jokes and witticisms that we are missing out on because of language barriers, and in turn, I think about how many jokes other language speakers are missing out on as well. So, if you can think of any examples of something interesting or funny that loses its charm via translation, please post them! Jokes, proverbs, poems, etc. And if possible, provide a brief explanation of why it can't be translated well. Pic somewhat related: a brief Latin couplet. While there might be translations that capture the meaning of the poem, no language could possibly reproduce the intensity of these eight verbs spread across these two brief lines. 24 posts and 8 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> William Bapperfuck - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:15:03 EST sdcwOx0d No.12166 Reply The English translation of the Asterix the Gaul comics are famous for either carrying over the sly use of puns of the original, or replacing them with equally good original jokes... >> Cornelius Chorrywater - Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:48:48 EST hvs1x3K0 No.12172 Reply 1433537328921.jpg -(114649B / 111.96KB, 512x512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The Egyptians went to town with the dubbing of Toy Story. They added their own jokes to them and messed with the lines. I remember there is a scene when Mr.Potato head re-arranges his face to look like one of Picasso's Cubist painting and approaches Piggy and shouts "I am Picasso!" which Pig replies "I don't drink that stuff" thinking it was a type of an alcoholic drink. Mr.Potato head even calls him and idiot and an imbecile but in the Arabic tongue its more of a dismissal than an insult. >> Jenny Duzzlestock - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 02:13:29 EST hnNOTh7j No.12175 Reply >>12153The poster you responded to was giving a translation that also rhymes, not asking what the original means.
>> William Bapperfuck - Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:15:03 EST sdcwOx0d No.12166 Reply The English translation of the Asterix the Gaul comics are famous for either carrying over the sly use of puns of the original, or replacing them with equally good original jokes...
>> Cornelius Chorrywater - Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:48:48 EST hvs1x3K0 No.12172 Reply 1433537328921.jpg -(114649B / 111.96KB, 512x512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. The Egyptians went to town with the dubbing of Toy Story. They added their own jokes to them and messed with the lines. I remember there is a scene when Mr.Potato head re-arranges his face to look like one of Picasso's Cubist painting and approaches Piggy and shouts "I am Picasso!" which Pig replies "I don't drink that stuff" thinking it was a type of an alcoholic drink. Mr.Potato head even calls him and idiot and an imbecile but in the Arabic tongue its more of a dismissal than an insult.
>> Jenny Duzzlestock - Mon, 08 Jun 2015 02:13:29 EST hnNOTh7j No.12175 Reply >>12153The poster you responded to was giving a translation that also rhymes, not asking what the original means.
Asian Scripts in English View Thread Reply Hide Edwin Bonningspear - Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:25:39 EST 1/E/HzJe No.9679 File: 1373405139978.jpg -(777721B / 759.49KB, 1280x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Considering the how little corellation there is between Chinese spoken language and their written script, can you learn to read the scripts in another language without knowing how speak Chinese/Japanese/etc? Or am I underestimating the connection between them? 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Phoebe Bavingforth - Tue, 23 Jul 2013 01:54:49 EST NqJL1ymG No.9745 Reply >>9724That's the alternate; he sort of means not leaning the Mandarin at all, only the written language. Very rote, unsystematic, prone to error. You shouldn't try learning the writing system without at least one spoken language that uses it for something of that scale.Analogically: the method he's talking about is like learning that 中 in English is written "middle" without ever learning that it's pronounced "mih-dull" and not zhōng.My suggestion would be to maybe reverse the meaning and the pinyin in your method, though (so for example learn 中 as zhōng before learning it as "middle"). This will force your mind into making more connections and predictions about characters, as well as more or less forcing you to think in Chinese.With foreign languages in general, it's best to try and establish your words by context and understand them passively, instead of translating it in your head. >> Lydia Blatherson - Wed, 20 May 2015 21:06:49 EST 08IqRJGc No.12137 Reply >>9679I'm fluent in Japanese, and I can sort of make sense of written traditional Chinese (what they write in ROC/Taiwan) even though I have absolutely no clue of how any of it is pronounced and don't kmow any spoken Chinese beyond a couple of words like 'thank you,' 'China' and 'hello,' which I probably mispronounce.The most complex text I've read this way was the manual for a very simple piece of software. >> Ghengis Dong - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:51:13 EST w8lQyzMl No.12162 Reply >>9724The alternative method is to learn by using the language to produce meaning. You can learn to read best by writing, to listen by speaking, and most in the field of SLA would argue that combining speaking and writing is the only legitimate way to achieve mastery in either. Without combining methods of output you never develop the nuanced features necessary to understand or communicate fluently.
>> Phoebe Bavingforth - Tue, 23 Jul 2013 01:54:49 EST NqJL1ymG No.9745 Reply >>9724That's the alternate; he sort of means not leaning the Mandarin at all, only the written language. Very rote, unsystematic, prone to error. You shouldn't try learning the writing system without at least one spoken language that uses it for something of that scale.Analogically: the method he's talking about is like learning that 中 in English is written "middle" without ever learning that it's pronounced "mih-dull" and not zhōng.My suggestion would be to maybe reverse the meaning and the pinyin in your method, though (so for example learn 中 as zhōng before learning it as "middle"). This will force your mind into making more connections and predictions about characters, as well as more or less forcing you to think in Chinese.With foreign languages in general, it's best to try and establish your words by context and understand them passively, instead of translating it in your head.
>> Lydia Blatherson - Wed, 20 May 2015 21:06:49 EST 08IqRJGc No.12137 Reply >>9679I'm fluent in Japanese, and I can sort of make sense of written traditional Chinese (what they write in ROC/Taiwan) even though I have absolutely no clue of how any of it is pronounced and don't kmow any spoken Chinese beyond a couple of words like 'thank you,' 'China' and 'hello,' which I probably mispronounce.The most complex text I've read this way was the manual for a very simple piece of software.
>> Ghengis Dong - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:51:13 EST w8lQyzMl No.12162 Reply >>9724The alternative method is to learn by using the language to produce meaning. You can learn to read best by writing, to listen by speaking, and most in the field of SLA would argue that combining speaking and writing is the only legitimate way to achieve mastery in either. Without combining methods of output you never develop the nuanced features necessary to understand or communicate fluently.
No Homaranismo View Thread Reply Hide Fucking Breffingford - Sun, 24 May 2015 13:07:18 EST NOxvHYwd No.12143 File: 1432487238125.jpg -(747609B / 730.09KB, 2600x1819) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Sup, /lang/oliers. Got one for you, does anyone know where to find the full text of L.L. Zamenhof's* "The Declaration of Homaranismo"?*You know, the Esperanto guy. >> Frederick Pemmlefore - Mon, 25 May 2015 00:17:28 EST J2RC/AFI No.12144 Reply No, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding something the Dogmoj de Homaranismo. >> Hamilton Numblemat - Thu, 28 May 2015 13:04:17 EST bh9jqNpB No.12151 Reply >>12144But I wanted to get some quotes and using a translation program from Esperanto makes it sound like fucking lolcats. >> Phineas Goddledock - Sun, 31 May 2015 04:17:41 EST j/CUSOBR No.12154 Reply Never mind, I found it myself.http://breathmintsforpenguins.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/zamenhofs-1917-declaration-of-homaranism.html
>> Frederick Pemmlefore - Mon, 25 May 2015 00:17:28 EST J2RC/AFI No.12144 Reply No, but you shouldn't have any trouble finding something the Dogmoj de Homaranismo.
>> Hamilton Numblemat - Thu, 28 May 2015 13:04:17 EST bh9jqNpB No.12151 Reply >>12144But I wanted to get some quotes and using a translation program from Esperanto makes it sound like fucking lolcats.
>> Phineas Goddledock - Sun, 31 May 2015 04:17:41 EST j/CUSOBR No.12154 Reply Never mind, I found it myself.http://breathmintsforpenguins.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/zamenhofs-1917-declaration-of-homaranism.html
