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Learning Turkish

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- Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:34 EST Ch+tAKXh No.11976
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Hello! I've been attempting to learn Turkish for about a month now. I know the basics, like hello, yes, no, goodbye, ect... I was wondering how long on average does it take to learn Turkish let alone a second language fluently. Plus, I was wondering how difficult it is to learn Turkish compared to other languages.

looking for someone german

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- Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:40:38 EST z7MSlm2F No.11862
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Hi /lang/ I've been learning to speak german for a year now and I'm at a point where I'm in need of a fluently speaking german influence to correct my errors and teach me proper spelling and such. I speak english and french fluently for who ever's interested in an exchange.
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Hitler - Thu, 08 Jan 2015 05:01:06 EST j4mbWJz1 No.11952 Reply
ICH SPRECHE DEUTSCH FLIEßEND. WERDE ALLERDINGS NIEMANDEM HELFEN DER NICHT ARISCHEN BLUTES IST.
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Phyllis Senkinhidge - Sat, 24 Jan 2015 18:31:58 EST AQoHklXU No.11975 Reply
I'm german myself and can speak english fluenly.

So if you need any help give me your email or skype or something.

Influence of English on the language of Italian media

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- Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:25:14 EST jYf4zYSf No.11959
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I'm writing a pretty long paper on the topic thereof. Any good sources I could start from? Both English and Italian work for me.

Language

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- Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:20:57 EST SUCBYNUW No.11898
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'I don't think language creates reality. I think language filters reality, or anchors reality, or sticks reality in place. Or we're all climbing on a big rock cliff, and words are spikes driven into the rock, and languages are chains or ladders of spikes. And people use the spikes so much that they no longer know how to climb on rock. And whole cultures of people, with a limitless cliff face around them, are packed onto a few thin spike trails. And those who know how to drive spikes, and pull them out, manipulate the trails to serve their interests. And people are called "great" when they drive spikes into places no one (from their culture) has been in before. I think Jesus Christ was a rock climber. And St. Paul saw people starting to follow Jesus onto the rocks, and got frightened, and drove a few spikes in the direction Jesus was going and called it Christianity. And the central doctrine of Christianity is that Jesus was the only rock climber. I think we're all rock climbers. But I want to hang out here on the spikes a while longer. As St. Augustine said, "Lord, take away all my temptations, only not just yet.'
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Cedric Crallerfoot - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:06:23 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11903 Reply
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>>11898
What a mishmash of ideas and concepts... First it assumes that there's some sort of universal and pure truth. Then it claims that words either hinder in realising that truth, or at the very best, are merely tools to be used by man.

After that, blammo, there's Jesus Christ Superstarclimber, and then... I'm lost.
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George Blythewater - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:27:48 EST c6hl5F2A No.11924 Reply
>>11898
I remember seeing this thread on /b/ a few weeks ago. Were you the OP? At least there you got an active thread going. What I want to know is where you got this opinion about language from? Assuming that language creates reality is wrong but you have no foundation for your alternative so I wouldn't assume its any more correct than the point you disagreed with. Reality is something we need to learn through experience but without language how would we have the tools to learn it?

Local insults

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- Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:00:11 EST YfZha+8z No.11307
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http://boards.420chan.org/b/res/3602430.php

I was having a moment of thought on the fact that 'sucks' literally means to suck a dick, so every time in daytime TV someone says 'this thing sucks a big fat veiny dick' but people don't reocognise it as that, just as a general negative descriptive term.

So what are some good ones in your local vicinity? A pretty all-engrossing one from the UK that you yankfags may not be familiar with is 'gimp' for someone with bad taste or poor social skills - you're a gimp mate. Probably tantamount to calling someone a bitch, although less to do with them being a pussy.

Another local par via articulate is 'whopper', which I'm not actually sure the origins are, but its a good one to say.
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Eliza Fivingdore - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:14:18 EST 1V74kwKY No.11904 Reply
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chinga tu madre pinche puto culero mamón

and those are just like common mexican insults, then there's "albures" which are dirty jokes told with figures of speech (double meanings), and there's a lot of derogatory terms relative to ethnicity, birthplace (like calling someone from the u.s "gringo" or "gabacho") and sexual deviancy (maricón, puñal, joto, lencha)
Actually must insults have a double meaning in México, like, for example, "mamón", which is used to refer to arrogant dickheads; but the word in fact means something close to "sucker". Or "culero", which is used to call out someone for being mean, but the literal meaning of the word is something like "asshat".
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Jack Sonnertedge - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:29:30 EST ZtJh40Yw No.11922 Reply
>>11308

It's also used for submissive people in BDSM, especially gay submissive guys.

Does anyone speak Irish (Gaeilge)

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- Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:42:54 EST V3PCboNV No.11633
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Does anyone who's not a native Irish person know how to speak any Irish? I'm from Ireland myself and sweet fuck all of the people that inhabit this Island can speak their native tongue. Unfortunately I have to include myself in that category.

So, have you ever known anyone that wasn't Irish/ from Ireland that could speak Irish? Or even knew if the language was still remotely alive?

We have our constitution written in both English and Irish so that's kinda handy.
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Eugene Nazzlegold - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:10:38 EST zGA5Pwzt No.11752 Reply
>>11744
Pretty sure you need an Irish IP to watch TG4 and RTE.

TG4 can be really awesome. Sometimes there is some AMAZING documentaries on there about Ireland and her history, language, culture, sport, etc. Other times you get to watch Powerpuff Girls and South Park in Gaelic lol
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Faggy Brookford - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:50:20 EST Z1v+SCTB No.11753 Reply
>>11752
I don't think that's the case, or at least it was 4-6 years ago. I've managed to stream stuff before with an American ip before too but I guess it could be a fluke or something.
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Ebenezer Cittingchatch - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:44:36 EST 58qa6ktL No.11896 Reply
Bhuail mise le cailín as an fhrainc a bhí gaeilge aici am amháin
Labhairim féin Gaeilge tír-cónaill 's mar sin de ní raibh mé in inmhe í a thuiscint lol.

I met a girl from France who had Irish once, I speak donegal irish though so i couldn't understand her. Woops.

HOW DO YOU DECIDE ON A LANGUAGE

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- Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:19:31 EST 6S+wMTU7 No.11891
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And how do you keep up with it?
There are seriously probably a half dozen or more languages I am very interested in, yet can't settle on one enough to put any effort into it. There are pros and cons to all of them.

As part of my self-improvement routine I'm really hoping to settle on 2 and alternate, doing an hour of study every other day. (For example, Latin on MWF, Arabic on TThS). But seriously, how do you even pick one?

Next post I will write about which ones I'm interested in, even if just to get it all out of my head and on paper.
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David Brookman - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:28:16 EST h3lr3kpz No.11894 Reply
FYI, American. Good Spanish after 8 years of schooling and using it on the job and to read books.

>High interest:
-Hebrew (modern)
Pro: Dad was Israeli. Learning an non-European language will be good for the brain, make me think differently. Also a challenge to learn a new alphabet. Abundance of Hebrew language media is available because Israel is a developed nation.
Con: relatively few speakers, especially in the US. Most Israelis know English and would probably rather practice English with me.
Won't be able to read the Bible with Modern Hebrew, not that that's very important to me but whatever.

-Scots Gaelic
Pro: Mom's side of the family is almost entirely Scots and their culture is important to me. Considered moving there for some time. Celtic languages sound beautiful.
Con: No one speaks it. 60,000 in Scotland, basically zero in America. Intermediate and high level materials are hard to find.

-Latin
Pro: Classical literature, foundation of the west. Should be somewhat easy with a strong Spanish base.
Con: No use other than reading. Difficult grammar, time could be arguably better spent with a living language.

>medium interest
-Romanian
Pro: It's a Romance language, but it's used by eastern Europeans. Could be a sort of easy way into familiarizing myself with slavland without having to learn Cyrillic or something complicated like Russian or Ukrainian. Even though it's not in my blood there's a lot of Eastern Europeans where I live, and I am kind of a slavaboo lately.
Con: Sounds stupid, very toothy like Italian. Probably the least widely spoken of the "big 5" Romance languages. By taking the easy way out and not familiarizing myself with much slavic vocab or Cyrillic I might be shooting myself in the foot as far as becoming a slavmaster goes.

-Russian
Pro: One of the most widely used languages in the world. Lingua franca of eastern Europe. Could use this in daily live in certain neighborhoods of my city. Enormous amount of media and huge internet presence assures I'll never get rusty.
Con: Extremely complicated, and I don't have that great of an interest in Russia specifically. Worried people will think I'm just another 18yo communist.

-Ancient Greek
Pro: Again, classical literature. But I have a hard time with this stuff because all the classics have been translated to English for seriously a fucking millennium, so I'm not sure I can swallow that there's so much "lost in translation".
Con: Used only for reading. A lot more people know Latin than ancient Greek, so using it in an artificial way on the internet would be much harder.

-French
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Hugh Pengerbanks - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:54:19 EST H0C+olUa No.11895 Reply
>>11894
>>11894
> and I hear that the Japanese really look down on whites interested in their culture

Could be worse.

you could be Korean

Testing

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- Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:29:23 EST jnF9nI22 No.11884
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" ႏွစ္လံုးတြဲ စကားတိုေလးမ် ား "

(1) About when? = ဘယ္ေတာ့ေလာက္လဲ

(2) All set? = အားလံုး အဆင္သင့္ ျဖစ္ျပီးလား

(3) Any clues? = ဘာ သဲလြန္စမ် ား ရွိလဲ

(4) Any discount ? = ေစ် းေလ်ွ ာ့ဦးမလား

(5) Any seats? = ခံုလြတ္ရွိေသးလား

(6) Anything else? = ဘာလိုေသးလဲ

(7) Anything new? = ဘာထူးေသးလဲ

(8) Anything wrong ? = ဘာျဖစ္တာလဲ

(9) Apparently so = အဲဒီလို ထင္တာပဲ

(10) Back off ! = သြားစမ္းပါ

(11) Bad news ! = စိတ္မေကာင္းပါဘူး (ဆိုးလိုက္တဲ့ သတင္း)

(12) Be patient ! = စိတ္ရွည္ရွည္ထားစမ္းပါ

(13) Be reasonable ! = နည္းလမ္းတက် စဥိးစားၾကည့္

(14) Beautiful job ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ လက္ရာ
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Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:32:03 EST jnF9nI22 No.11886 Reply
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(101) Just here! = ဒီနားေလးတင္

(102) Phone calling ! = ဖုန္းလာေနတယ္

(103) Keep trying ! = ဆက္ၾကိဳ းစားပါ

(104) What about ? = ဘာေတြေျပာေနတာလဲ

(105) Just gossip ! = အတင္းေျပာေနၾကတာပါ

(106) No doubt ! = အဲဒါေတာ့ သံသယ မရွိနဲ႕

(107) Lovely voice ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ အသံ

(108) Can't wait = မေစာင့္ႏိုင္ပါဘူး

(109) Dear me ! = အဲလို ဒုကၡပါပဲ

(110) So soon ! = မၾကာေတာ့ပါဘူး

(111) Really splendid ! = တစ္ကယ့္ သားနားတယ္

(112) Just relax ! = စိတ္ေအးေအးထားပါကြာ

(113) You wish ! = မင္းေျပာသလို ျဖစ္ပါေစ

(114) No lie ? = လိမ္တာ မဟုတ္ဘူးေနာ္

(115) Mind that ! = အဲဒါကို သတိရပါ
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Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:39:36 EST jnF9nI22 No.11888 Reply
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Great. Myanmar language for anyone who's interested. Someone posted on facebok, but my computer didn't have support so I just pasted it here and copied the webpage for future reference.

this month for me; JP s0me FR

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- Fri, 28 Nov 2014 22:32:38 EST qqFv6N96 No.11880
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r05ropOnt3s luca and intonation
http://www.lingholic.com/actors-can-teach-us-learning-foreign-language/

http://www.lingholic.com/6-memory-strategies-supercharge-your-learning/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpzeGoP-Kg

http://marimoeo.seesaa.net/ podcast hokkaido ben
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonetic_alphabet alpha romeo victor of japan helps you visuals the syllibry
https://soundcloud.com/dj-kro hiphop is never boring
http://japanesepokemon.wordpress.com/ i use pokemon
and learn on yami with these http://blog.livedoor.jp/agraphlog-asamegraph/temp/pokehyaku.html
http://japaneseclass.jp/
http://www.flrmethod.com/themethod/
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1269450669

i mimic peoples voices. satirize there mannerism. make all vocabulary a story got the idea from dominic o'brian perfect memory

for example my why of remembering my ARRET.. imagine your little brother is bugging you. hey hey hey hey and youve had enough AAARET( and you make that throut sound) BUT spit flys all over his face. your mom sees you and smacks you sooo hard you go into Cardiac Arrest

or you in the subway and you are racist towards a chinese guy and fuck it you push him infront of the train and and AAAAhhhret that crunch

Question is this useful to you

Pseudo-intellectual internet "linguists"

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- Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:21:22 EST fa47rx37 No.8677
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Stop this, you pseudo-intellectual faggots.

English has many many words that other languages don't have. Also, this isn't a word, not even a compound. I can just start saying "elevating spirit" or some shit too. Stop downplaying English when you find other languages as if they are the arc of the bloody covenant or something and somehow inherently superior to English because they have a few words or phrases that English doesn't use/have in the same manner.
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Faggy Bockleway - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:00:49 EST LN34p4C8 No.11852 Reply
>>11851
What a horrifically eurocentric assessment!

You did a great job but answered the question how grammatical gender evolved in PIE but not why grammatical gender is needed. Uralic and Turkic languages never parse their words for gender; they even have gender neutral pronouns. Afro-Asiatic languages also have grammatical gender although there's evolved independently from PIE's. Coincidently, the (classical) Arabic feminine ending ة was also a glottal fricative (h) and is still written as such but these days you just pronounce a or at.

Sophie Nabbersare is correct in thinking grammatical gender has no extricable purpose. It once did in PIE did but it's nothing more than a vestigial feature.
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Frederick Chundlelock - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:17:18 EST +5oX0u2R No.11879 Reply
>>11850

it often makes it more clear what you are referring to exactly when you say "it"
depends on the language.
Is it necessary, no. is it useful? yes. considering how easy it is for kids to learn it anyway there is no reason not to have like 20 genders.. and there are some languages that have genders in the double digits
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Nathaniel Gerrysteck - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:39:27 EST 4wV/INP8 No.11900 Reply
>>8679
I wish we did. All this character, personality and individuality repulses me. It's disgustingly inefficient.

WRITTEN Language

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- Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:16:11 EST 24ygmyw9 No.11555
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Native Hindi and English speaker here . However I am learning the north Indian script . I can read Urdu - which is mutually intelligible but uses Arabic alphabet .

So got to thinking . Even tho i only speak 2 languages i can read 4 scripts : Latin Greek Arab Devnagar

So what spoken languages and what scripts are you fluent and what you want to learn ? Aside from the above I know a little spanish and franch but nowhere near fluent. As far as writing chinese interests me .
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Albert Gaggledale - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:23:07 EST Wrogz3dW No.11754 Reply
>>11555
I am trying to learn Japanese kanji, plus their hiragana & katakana scripts..

Good luck with Urdu, OP!
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Shitting Niggerdale - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:53:38 EST GqsP0ZtK No.11858 Reply
>>11812
I would be interested to know how a dyslexic manages with japanese writing! My friend said ages ago that it's not a problem in Japan, so their literacy is way higher than the UK.

Blah is the langauge of......

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- Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:46:24 EST 4+ObrLLz No.8949
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As languages are sometimes associcated with nouns, Like french is the language of love, (well that is the only one i know) or italien is the language of music, german of philosophy!
Then wat are languages (in particular Farsi, if ye know) or any langauge at all?
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Esther Dindlewidge - Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:37:06 EST F8xE90or No.11663 Reply
Danish is the language of incomprehensible drunks
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moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:03:08 EST avmU74pl No.11856 Reply
>>11520
no, lithuanian is the language of stoic assholes
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Emma Cubberhall - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:17:12 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11857 Reply
Japanese is the language of romance. Why? Because my japanese teacher said so.

And english is the language of nouns. Because other languages use the word "substantive".

help

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- Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:13:24 EST NSiA5J4q No.11560
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I'm not a native English speaker and I want to start reading English novels but i'm afraid of not being able to read some of its words, especially the vowel words that seem like they have the short vowel sound but in reality the vowels or some are long.
How do you guys figure this out?
Are they rules?
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:13:12 EST p/0MewD3 No.11854 Reply
>>11853
Yes, I'm a native English speaker. I don't really see or understand the pronunciations; I just "speak" the words inside my head as I read them so I can hear the different pronunciations.
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Eliza Demmleford - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:58:57 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11855 Reply
>>11854
Thanks for the reply. I guess that's something that also comes with fluency, since I don't really have to think about the different rules (or deviances) either. I have just memorized everything phonetically. But it's still very apparent how "illogical" english can be at times, when I only merely look at the words.
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Cyril Semblehedge - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:26:25 EST xLdweCCV No.11870 Reply
>>11838
this, but it can be any american (or british, i don't know what you want) media. just be sure to use subtitles, they are a must.
the correct answer is the simpsons though

Looking for a few honorable Klingons for linguistics research

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- Sun, 09 Nov 2014 22:58:23 EST riuwJDLT No.11845
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(X-POST /1701/

Looking for a few volunteers from all linguistic backgrounds- anyone with a decent microphone. Read from a deck of flash cards 5 times and you're done. I haven't completely designed the deck just yet, but I don't expect it to be too long, and it'll be a mix of single words and short phrases- all utterances common in Klingon.
It's not paid (like most good research work should be) but for those interested, I can follow up with the final product (something like 10 pages?). This paper will hopefully mark the end of my academic career, so, Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!

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