GREEK / ELLNVIKA View Thread Reply Hide Eugene Budgedin - Fri, 02 May 2014 01:40:17 EST SRz+MrWT No.11331 File: 1399009217791.jpg -(805260B / 786.39KB, 1920x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Any advice for learning Greek? 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Cyril Pirringledging - Mon, 11 Aug 2014 22:30:11 EST hV/j9IGo No.11605 Reply I'll ask this here instead of starting a new thread.How does Greek transliterate foreign sounds? I tried Google, but no luck. >> Lillian Papperfetch - Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:14:58 EST SRz+MrWT No.12009 Reply bump >> Albert Fidgefoot - Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:29:27 EST Z1v+SCTB No.12015 Reply >>11605Usuallyp t k = pi, tav, kappab d g = mu+pi, nu+tau, nu+kappatch = just ts, but sometimes kappa + front voweldj/j = dz, ntz, sometimes gamma + front vowelf th s sh x = phi, theta, sigma, sigma+iota or a front vowel, chiv z zh h = beta (vita), zita, zita + iota, asperus or chi or 0m n ng = mu, nu, nu+gammar, l = rho lambdaw = omicron upsilony/j = iota, eta, or epsiloni = iota, eta, epsilon, or ipsilon (upsilon)e = epsilon usuallya = alfao = omicronu = omicron + upsilonü = upsilon, said like ietc. Most approximations are like French or Italian actually, with the NC = G and u = i thing. Beer if romanized like the Ancients would have read the word is "mpura" but in Modern this is read as "bira". Nikita Khruschev is nikita xroustsof.
>> Cyril Pirringledging - Mon, 11 Aug 2014 22:30:11 EST hV/j9IGo No.11605 Reply I'll ask this here instead of starting a new thread.How does Greek transliterate foreign sounds? I tried Google, but no luck.
>> Albert Fidgefoot - Wed, 25 Feb 2015 03:29:27 EST Z1v+SCTB No.12015 Reply >>11605Usuallyp t k = pi, tav, kappab d g = mu+pi, nu+tau, nu+kappatch = just ts, but sometimes kappa + front voweldj/j = dz, ntz, sometimes gamma + front vowelf th s sh x = phi, theta, sigma, sigma+iota or a front vowel, chiv z zh h = beta (vita), zita, zita + iota, asperus or chi or 0m n ng = mu, nu, nu+gammar, l = rho lambdaw = omicron upsilony/j = iota, eta, or epsiloni = iota, eta, epsilon, or ipsilon (upsilon)e = epsilon usuallya = alfao = omicronu = omicron + upsilonü = upsilon, said like ietc. Most approximations are like French or Italian actually, with the NC = G and u = i thing. Beer if romanized like the Ancients would have read the word is "mpura" but in Modern this is read as "bira". Nikita Khruschev is nikita xroustsof.
Fluency. View Thread Reply Hide cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:54:37 EST XaB5Kl1U No.11961 File: 1421700877526.jpg -(18826B / 18.38KB, 350x238) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do you define "fluency?"Do you make distinctions between "conversational" and "fluent?">Here's what Google spits back when searching "fluent definition"flu·entˈflo͞oənt/adjectiveadjective: fluent (of a person) able to express oneself easily and articulately. "a fluent speaker and writer on technical subjects" synonyms: articulate, eloquent, expressive, communicative, coherent, cogent, illuminating, vivid, well written/spoken "a fluent campaign speech" antonyms: inarticulate (of a person) able to speak or write a particular foreign language easily and accurately. "she became fluent in French and German" synonyms: articulate; have a (good) command of "fluent in French" (of a foreign language) spoken accurately and with facility. "he spoke fluent Spanish" 7 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Augustus Blendlewater - Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:45:16 EST 6mW8O8BP No.11986 Reply 1422434716576.jpg -(228253B / 222.90KB, 400x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11985i've gotta disagree. i get what you're saying and maybe it varies from person to person but statistically it is accepted that listening and reading are easier to master than speaking and writing. yes fluency refers to flow, i guess i could see how one could apply it to listening or reading but i can't see how in the real world anyone would claim to be a "fluent reader of xyz language". perhaps writing isn't as spontaneous as speaking, but it still deals with production of ones own thoughts in a target language. reading and listening are merely processing information that already exists. and while one could theoretically be "fluent" in a language by the strict definition and still lack proficiency, true fluency has a lot to do with proficiency as well, like having a broad and accurate vocabulary rather than relying on circumlocution or knowing certain levels of speech that would be appropriate in different situations.here's some more detailed breakdowns of the ILR scale, for anyone interestedhttp://www.govtilr.org/skills/ >> Sidney Hoblingbone - Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:19:01 EST RYQ9LXTa No.12001 Reply >>11986>www.govtilr.org/skills/That's one ugly site... I'm betting you have to be full-on ameribear to like it.>statistically it is accepted that listening and reading are easier to master than speaking and writingI gotta agree with this. It's always harder to produce something than it is to merely experience something. >> Simon Bannerchedge - Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:42:41 EST hL/5FZ6b No.12014 Reply 1424619761381.jpg -(262895B / 256.73KB, 492x372) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>12001yes, it is indeed ugly but the content is there describing fluency
>> Augustus Blendlewater - Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:45:16 EST 6mW8O8BP No.11986 Reply 1422434716576.jpg -(228253B / 222.90KB, 400x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11985i've gotta disagree. i get what you're saying and maybe it varies from person to person but statistically it is accepted that listening and reading are easier to master than speaking and writing. yes fluency refers to flow, i guess i could see how one could apply it to listening or reading but i can't see how in the real world anyone would claim to be a "fluent reader of xyz language". perhaps writing isn't as spontaneous as speaking, but it still deals with production of ones own thoughts in a target language. reading and listening are merely processing information that already exists. and while one could theoretically be "fluent" in a language by the strict definition and still lack proficiency, true fluency has a lot to do with proficiency as well, like having a broad and accurate vocabulary rather than relying on circumlocution or knowing certain levels of speech that would be appropriate in different situations.here's some more detailed breakdowns of the ILR scale, for anyone interestedhttp://www.govtilr.org/skills/
>> Sidney Hoblingbone - Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:19:01 EST RYQ9LXTa No.12001 Reply >>11986>www.govtilr.org/skills/That's one ugly site... I'm betting you have to be full-on ameribear to like it.>statistically it is accepted that listening and reading are easier to master than speaking and writingI gotta agree with this. It's always harder to produce something than it is to merely experience something.
>> Simon Bannerchedge - Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:42:41 EST hL/5FZ6b No.12014 Reply 1424619761381.jpg -(262895B / 256.73KB, 492x372) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>12001yes, it is indeed ugly but the content is there describing fluency
Novels in Spanish for reading comprehension. View Thread Reply Hide Molly Mezzledock - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:13:35 EST KJu4J5EH No.11901 File: 1418588015289.jpg -(18519B / 18.08KB, 264x264) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hey guys,I speak spanish quite well. I lived in a spanish speaking country for a number of years, but am now back in Canada now where they are not very many Spanish speaking people.I am looking for a couple of intermediate novels to read, not something with a lot of the tenses you only find in high level literary works, just something to read before bed to keep my reading comprehension up.I recently read "The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway in Spanish, something along those lines.Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks! 5 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Samuel Brupperridge - Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:13:00 EST 5rSHWso6 No.11950 Reply el Aleph or any collection of shortworks from Jorge Luis Borges, he's my favorite authorI recommend reading plays if you can get into them, because they're extremely accessible. Ariel Dorfman is a decent playwright. Modern Spanish rendering of Conde Lucanor stories would be good since they're short fables with relatively simple prose.I'm currently reading The Motorcycle Diaries and I'll admit it's a challenging read, but if you're committed to it it'll do you well. It's just the Argentine slang that's a bitch. >> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:57:55 EST XaB5Kl1U No.11968 Reply 1421719075497.png -(46982B / 45.88KB, 1342x527) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11941translated from german to spanish or german to... english to spanish?german and spanish don't seem to jive too well for native speakers of each. >> Lydia Gubbleworth - Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:14:16 EST P/Qs0eHF No.11987 Reply >>11901I'd suggest reading something from a spanish speaking author, not a translation. Not that it'll be easier, but I always find it somewhat more satisfactory reading an original than a translationHere are some easy authors you can begin with:Horacio Quiroga: he wrote short, horrible tales, like the Edgar Allan Poe of South America. I strongly suggest you read La gallina degollada from Cuentos de amor, de locura, y de muerte.Julio Cortazar. Well reknowned author, he wrote some pretty strange books (Rayuela for example), I think he even won a Nobel prize. I suggest you also read some of his short stories, they're somewhat kafkian: really short, concise, and surreal; check out "Instrucciones para subir una escalera".If you're for something a bit longer you can check out Ernesto Sabato's El tunel, it's about 100 pages long, but it's not that complicated (I think). It's like a mash up between Bukowski and Dostoievski, though not as good as either of them.Garcia Marquez is also pretty cool and easy to read, but I don't find him quite as interesting as these other authors. Ohh, and Borges is the best, but he's not an easy read at all, I don't suggest him as a first read.
>> Samuel Brupperridge - Tue, 06 Jan 2015 19:13:00 EST 5rSHWso6 No.11950 Reply el Aleph or any collection of shortworks from Jorge Luis Borges, he's my favorite authorI recommend reading plays if you can get into them, because they're extremely accessible. Ariel Dorfman is a decent playwright. Modern Spanish rendering of Conde Lucanor stories would be good since they're short fables with relatively simple prose.I'm currently reading The Motorcycle Diaries and I'll admit it's a challenging read, but if you're committed to it it'll do you well. It's just the Argentine slang that's a bitch.
>> cursive !M6R0eWkIpk - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:57:55 EST XaB5Kl1U No.11968 Reply 1421719075497.png -(46982B / 45.88KB, 1342x527) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11941translated from german to spanish or german to... english to spanish?german and spanish don't seem to jive too well for native speakers of each.
>> Lydia Gubbleworth - Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:14:16 EST P/Qs0eHF No.11987 Reply >>11901I'd suggest reading something from a spanish speaking author, not a translation. Not that it'll be easier, but I always find it somewhat more satisfactory reading an original than a translationHere are some easy authors you can begin with:Horacio Quiroga: he wrote short, horrible tales, like the Edgar Allan Poe of South America. I strongly suggest you read La gallina degollada from Cuentos de amor, de locura, y de muerte.Julio Cortazar. Well reknowned author, he wrote some pretty strange books (Rayuela for example), I think he even won a Nobel prize. I suggest you also read some of his short stories, they're somewhat kafkian: really short, concise, and surreal; check out "Instrucciones para subir una escalera".If you're for something a bit longer you can check out Ernesto Sabato's El tunel, it's about 100 pages long, but it's not that complicated (I think). It's like a mash up between Bukowski and Dostoievski, though not as good as either of them.Garcia Marquez is also pretty cool and easy to read, but I don't find him quite as interesting as these other authors. Ohh, and Borges is the best, but he's not an easy read at all, I don't suggest him as a first read.
franco-phoney View Thread Reply Hide Augustus Bevingspear - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:21:04 EST MxuHFgw1 No.11890 File: 1417897264067.jpg -(8214B / 8.02KB, 200x174) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. j'ai honte, je ne peux plus parler français. non seulement est-elle maintenant ma troisième langue, mais c'est vraiment honteux quand j'essaie de parler avec quelqu'un et ne peux pas dire même certains mots très simples (par exemple, je pouvais pas trouver le mot "vite" il y a deux jours quand je faisais un effort de discuter en français avec un québécois)donc, aidez-moi les mecs, allons-y créer un thread où on peut parler de n'importe quoi en français. tu peux corriger les fautes, ou pas, c'est à choixdis-moioù tu-vis? et, je sais pas.. quels films francophones est-ce que tu recommandes? >> Charles Hettingtore - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:24:00 EST nkd0TrwG No.11984 Reply Je vais t'aider à corriger les fautes.>non seulement est-elle maintenant ma troisième langue"est-ce là" plutôt que "est-elle". Mais c'est assez formel, tu pourrais simplifier:>Non seulement c'est ma troisième langue>et ne peux pas dire même certains motset [je] ne peux même pas dire certains motsC'est plus facile à comprendre si tu répètes le "je".>je pouvais pasje ne pouvais pasSi tu veux être un peu plus formel.>je faisais un effort de discuterje faisais L'effort de discuter>allons-y créer un threadcréons* si tu voulais dire "let's make a thread". "créez" si tu voulais dire "create a thread, you guys".> c'est à choixc'est au choix>où tu-vis? "où vis-tu" ou alors "où tu vis". Le deuxième est beaucoup moins formel. Oh, et aussi, n'oublie pas de mettre une espace avant le point d'interrogation (?). C'est pareil pour toutes les ponctuations double (? ! : ; ). But that's nitpicking now.Ton français est pas mal du tout, tu devrais continuer à pratiquer !Je suis un Français, j'ai passé le début de ma vie en Normandie, au nord de la France, avant que mes parents aillent s'installer dans le sud, dans le Languedoc. J'ai passé deux ans au Québec après ça, et à présent je vis en Angleterre, j'essaie d'améliorer mon anglais à l'oral !Concernant les films, je te conseille les deux films OSS 117. Jean Dujardin (qui faisait des trucs marrants, avant) y joue un espion très très Français, parodie de James Bond et des codes du cinéma de cette époque-là. Il y aura sûrement certaines répliques et références qui ne seront pas évidentes à comprendre pour toi ; hésite pas à demander ici.
>> Charles Hettingtore - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:24:00 EST nkd0TrwG No.11984 Reply Je vais t'aider à corriger les fautes.>non seulement est-elle maintenant ma troisième langue"est-ce là" plutôt que "est-elle". Mais c'est assez formel, tu pourrais simplifier:>Non seulement c'est ma troisième langue>et ne peux pas dire même certains motset [je] ne peux même pas dire certains motsC'est plus facile à comprendre si tu répètes le "je".>je pouvais pasje ne pouvais pasSi tu veux être un peu plus formel.>je faisais un effort de discuterje faisais L'effort de discuter>allons-y créer un threadcréons* si tu voulais dire "let's make a thread". "créez" si tu voulais dire "create a thread, you guys".> c'est à choixc'est au choix>où tu-vis? "où vis-tu" ou alors "où tu vis". Le deuxième est beaucoup moins formel. Oh, et aussi, n'oublie pas de mettre une espace avant le point d'interrogation (?). C'est pareil pour toutes les ponctuations double (? ! : ; ). But that's nitpicking now.Ton français est pas mal du tout, tu devrais continuer à pratiquer !Je suis un Français, j'ai passé le début de ma vie en Normandie, au nord de la France, avant que mes parents aillent s'installer dans le sud, dans le Languedoc. J'ai passé deux ans au Québec après ça, et à présent je vis en Angleterre, j'essaie d'améliorer mon anglais à l'oral !Concernant les films, je te conseille les deux films OSS 117. Jean Dujardin (qui faisait des trucs marrants, avant) y joue un espion très très Français, parodie de James Bond et des codes du cinéma de cette époque-là. Il y aura sûrement certaines répliques et références qui ne seront pas évidentes à comprendre pour toi ; hésite pas à demander ici.
Rechercher View Thread Reply Hide Polly Sammerlag - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 14:38:43 EST 4jjffGeJ No.11944 File: 1420313923448.jpg -(501568B / 489.81KB, 2956x1958) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi all, I am writing a short story and was wondering if it would be totally strange to use the French word rechercher as my protagonists last name. I know it basically means to look for in English, I don't know much other than that besides that I like it. I plan on the protagonist having American parents with maybe some French somewhere in their lineage but it's not a part of the plot just a mental note for me. So, people who speak French or actual French people (if there are any on this board) would it be highly uncommon for a person to have the French verb rechercher as a last name? 1 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> David Worthingford - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:09:30 EST lHdJYkhU No.11948 Reply >>11944I'm not sure.In the book "Este Domingo" by the Chilean author Jose Donoso, some characters have the last name "vives", which in Spanish means "you live".So it's not a totally unprecedented concept, at least. >> Phineas Dopperhon - Thu, 22 Jan 2015 06:35:57 EST E3W6Xz/v No.11971 Reply >>11944Yes, it would. It makes no sense.I guess I have nothing to reply to the previous examples mentioned, but if anything some common names are sometimes used as last names, but never verbs. It can work for an english audience, there's often a lot of weird names in japanese stuff that aren't natural at all, but work to evoke "germanness" or whatever for the audience. But don't expect it to be fine for everybody just because you like it. >> Charles Hettingtore - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:03:59 EST nkd0TrwG No.11983 Reply >>11944Hello, frenchie here.Absolutely NO ONE in France has "Rechercher" as their last name (yeah, just checked).We simply don't use verbs in the infinitive, nouns or adjectives are much more common. For instance, "Recherche" is an actual surname (meaning "research" or "search", as a noun), although it's a very uncommon one (498 persons out of 65 millions). But it does sound natural, at least."Pierre Recherche" would strike me as unusual but would still sound french; "Jean Rechercher" would just make me think the author didn't know what they were doing at all.If you want to retain the meaning, go with "Reserche" or "Chercheur" (searcher). A verb will sound out of place, only to French speakers though I guess.
>> David Worthingford - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:09:30 EST lHdJYkhU No.11948 Reply >>11944I'm not sure.In the book "Este Domingo" by the Chilean author Jose Donoso, some characters have the last name "vives", which in Spanish means "you live".So it's not a totally unprecedented concept, at least.
>> Phineas Dopperhon - Thu, 22 Jan 2015 06:35:57 EST E3W6Xz/v No.11971 Reply >>11944Yes, it would. It makes no sense.I guess I have nothing to reply to the previous examples mentioned, but if anything some common names are sometimes used as last names, but never verbs. It can work for an english audience, there's often a lot of weird names in japanese stuff that aren't natural at all, but work to evoke "germanness" or whatever for the audience. But don't expect it to be fine for everybody just because you like it.
>> Charles Hettingtore - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:03:59 EST nkd0TrwG No.11983 Reply >>11944Hello, frenchie here.Absolutely NO ONE in France has "Rechercher" as their last name (yeah, just checked).We simply don't use verbs in the infinitive, nouns or adjectives are much more common. For instance, "Recherche" is an actual surname (meaning "research" or "search", as a noun), although it's a very uncommon one (498 persons out of 65 millions). But it does sound natural, at least."Pierre Recherche" would strike me as unusual but would still sound french; "Jean Rechercher" would just make me think the author didn't know what they were doing at all.If you want to retain the meaning, go with "Reserche" or "Chercheur" (searcher). A verb will sound out of place, only to French speakers though I guess.
Any success stories? View Thread Reply Hide Fanny Pivingwell - Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:35:58 EST 8Xo2pqDl No.11789 File: 1413502558919.jpg -(237148B / 231.59KB, 694x900) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Seems like you guys just ask each other "what language should I learn" or "What is a good movie in X language?"Any real success stories here? Becoming fluent? To the point where you can read/write/speak/watch/listen as if it were your native tongue- anyone use it to travel or perhaps meet friends/lovers? Impress and inspire me guys. 16 posts and 6 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> James Crellypere - Mon, 26 Jan 2015 06:06:00 EST 6mW8O8BP No.11979 Reply i learned a language in the army. any of you who are serious about language learning, native exposure, and proficiency, there's a pretty good resource at ( GLOSS dot dliflc dot edu ) maybe visit it on an incognito page and check it out ^^ it's got reading and listening exercises in 40 languages. i still use it 3 years after to keep up my proficiency a bit, but aside from talking to grocery store clerks and ordering in restaurants and reading the occasional news articles i suck now that i dont use it every day :( >> Priscilla Sonnerhall - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:42:30 EST WbDEOjjy No.11981 Reply >>11979A really nice resource, thanks! >> Cedric Sennerford - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:46:08 EST 1SMjONZT No.12938 Reply I just really really really want to kill myself right now. I don't know if I can hold on.
>> James Crellypere - Mon, 26 Jan 2015 06:06:00 EST 6mW8O8BP No.11979 Reply i learned a language in the army. any of you who are serious about language learning, native exposure, and proficiency, there's a pretty good resource at ( GLOSS dot dliflc dot edu ) maybe visit it on an incognito page and check it out ^^ it's got reading and listening exercises in 40 languages. i still use it 3 years after to keep up my proficiency a bit, but aside from talking to grocery store clerks and ordering in restaurants and reading the occasional news articles i suck now that i dont use it every day :(
>> Priscilla Sonnerhall - Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:42:30 EST WbDEOjjy No.11981 Reply >>11979A really nice resource, thanks!
>> Cedric Sennerford - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:46:08 EST 1SMjONZT No.12938 Reply I just really really really want to kill myself right now. I don't know if I can hold on.
Learning Turkish View Thread Reply Hide Fuck Grimgold - Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:34 EST Ch+tAKXh No.11976 File: 1422162454180.jpg -(56898B / 55.56KB, 550x381) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hello! I've been attempting to learn Turkish for about a month now. I know the basics, like hello, yes, no, goodbye, ect... I was wondering how long on average does it take to learn Turkish let alone a second language fluently. Plus, I was wondering how difficult it is to learn Turkish compared to other languages.
looking for someone german View Thread Reply Hide Hannah Bunstock - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 23:40:38 EST z7MSlm2F No.11862 File: 1416199238254.jpg -(49762B / 48.60KB, 400x285) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi /lang/ I've been learning to speak german for a year now and I'm at a point where I'm in need of a fluently speaking german influence to correct my errors and teach me proper spelling and such. I speak english and french fluently for who ever's interested in an exchange. 2 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hitler - Thu, 08 Jan 2015 05:01:06 EST j4mbWJz1 No.11952 Reply ICH SPRECHE DEUTSCH FLIEßEND. WERDE ALLERDINGS NIEMANDEM HELFEN DER NICHT ARISCHEN BLUTES IST. >> Phyllis Senkinhidge - Sat, 24 Jan 2015 18:31:58 EST AQoHklXU No.11975 Reply I'm german myself and can speak english fluenly.So if you need any help give me your email or skype or something. >> Fucking Weppershaw - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 05:18:47 EST txBu1ds7 No.12005 Reply >>11952There is no capital ß. It becomes SS. nb
>> Hitler - Thu, 08 Jan 2015 05:01:06 EST j4mbWJz1 No.11952 Reply ICH SPRECHE DEUTSCH FLIEßEND. WERDE ALLERDINGS NIEMANDEM HELFEN DER NICHT ARISCHEN BLUTES IST.
>> Phyllis Senkinhidge - Sat, 24 Jan 2015 18:31:58 EST AQoHklXU No.11975 Reply I'm german myself and can speak english fluenly.So if you need any help give me your email or skype or something.
>> Fucking Weppershaw - Tue, 17 Feb 2015 05:18:47 EST txBu1ds7 No.12005 Reply >>11952There is no capital ß. It becomes SS. nb
Influence of English on the language of Italian media View Thread Reply Hide Hamilton Nevinglot - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:25:14 EST jYf4zYSf No.11959 File: 1421699114080.jpg -(35457B / 34.63KB, 670x496) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm writing a pretty long paper on the topic thereof. Any good sources I could start from? Both English and Italian work for me.
Language View Thread Reply Hide John Tillingfoot - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:20:57 EST SUCBYNUW No.11898 File: 1418246457231.png -(33973B / 33.18KB, 1012x596) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 'I don't think language creates reality. I think language filters reality, or anchors reality, or sticks reality in place. Or we're all climbing on a big rock cliff, and words are spikes driven into the rock, and languages are chains or ladders of spikes. And people use the spikes so much that they no longer know how to climb on rock. And whole cultures of people, with a limitless cliff face around them, are packed onto a few thin spike trails. And those who know how to drive spikes, and pull them out, manipulate the trails to serve their interests. And people are called "great" when they drive spikes into places no one (from their culture) has been in before. I think Jesus Christ was a rock climber. And St. Paul saw people starting to follow Jesus onto the rocks, and got frightened, and drove a few spikes in the direction Jesus was going and called it Christianity. And the central doctrine of Christianity is that Jesus was the only rock climber. I think we're all rock climbers. But I want to hang out here on the spikes a while longer. As St. Augustine said, "Lord, take away all my temptations, only not just yet.' >> Cedric Crallerfoot - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:06:23 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11903 Reply 1418598383186.jpg -(639858B / 624.86KB, 1333x2000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11898What a mishmash of ideas and concepts... First it assumes that there's some sort of universal and pure truth. Then it claims that words either hinder in realising that truth, or at the very best, are merely tools to be used by man.After that, blammo, there's Jesus Christ Superstarclimber, and then... I'm lost. >> George Blythewater - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:27:48 EST c6hl5F2A No.11924 Reply >>11898I remember seeing this thread on /b/ a few weeks ago. Were you the OP? At least there you got an active thread going. What I want to know is where you got this opinion about language from? Assuming that language creates reality is wrong but you have no foundation for your alternative so I wouldn't assume its any more correct than the point you disagreed with. Reality is something we need to learn through experience but without language how would we have the tools to learn it?
>> Cedric Crallerfoot - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:06:23 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11903 Reply 1418598383186.jpg -(639858B / 624.86KB, 1333x2000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11898What a mishmash of ideas and concepts... First it assumes that there's some sort of universal and pure truth. Then it claims that words either hinder in realising that truth, or at the very best, are merely tools to be used by man.After that, blammo, there's Jesus Christ Superstarclimber, and then... I'm lost.
>> George Blythewater - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:27:48 EST c6hl5F2A No.11924 Reply >>11898I remember seeing this thread on /b/ a few weeks ago. Were you the OP? At least there you got an active thread going. What I want to know is where you got this opinion about language from? Assuming that language creates reality is wrong but you have no foundation for your alternative so I wouldn't assume its any more correct than the point you disagreed with. Reality is something we need to learn through experience but without language how would we have the tools to learn it?
Local insults View Thread Reply Turanj - Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:00:11 EST YfZha+8z No.11307 File: 1398715211366.gif -(325906B / 318.27KB, 255x162) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. http://boards.420chan.org/b/res/3602430.phpI was having a moment of thought on the fact that 'sucks' literally means to suck a dick, so every time in daytime TV someone says 'this thing sucks a big fat veiny dick' but people don't reocognise it as that, just as a general negative descriptive term.So what are some good ones in your local vicinity? A pretty all-engrossing one from the UK that you yankfags may not be familiar with is 'gimp' for someone with bad taste or poor social skills - you're a gimp mate. Probably tantamount to calling someone a bitch, although less to do with them being a pussy.Another local par via articulate is 'whopper', which I'm not actually sure the origins are, but its a good one to say. 37 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Eliza Fivingdore - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:14:18 EST 1V74kwKY No.11904 Reply 1418678058346.jpg -(237819B / 232.25KB, 600x658) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. chinga tu madre pinche puto culero mamónand those are just like common mexican insults, then there's "albures" which are dirty jokes told with figures of speech (double meanings), and there's a lot of derogatory terms relative to ethnicity, birthplace (like calling someone from the u.s "gringo" or "gabacho") and sexual deviancy (maricón, puñal, joto, lencha)Actually must insults have a double meaning in México, like, for example, "mamón", which is used to refer to arrogant dickheads; but the word in fact means something close to "sucker". Or "culero", which is used to call out someone for being mean, but the literal meaning of the word is something like "asshat". >> Betsy Herringnutch - Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:14:32 EST Xeu02BUO No.11920 Reply >>11485It always sort of embarrasses me when I see people type like this on the internet.Also>fudheidwtf?Anyway, this really made me cringe http://glasgow.stv.tv/articles/303164-gourmet-burger-kitchens-glaswegian-menu-comes-under-fire/What a terrible idea. >> Jack Sonnertedge - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:29:30 EST ZtJh40Yw No.11922 Reply >>11308It's also used for submissive people in BDSM, especially gay submissive guys.
>> Eliza Fivingdore - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:14:18 EST 1V74kwKY No.11904 Reply 1418678058346.jpg -(237819B / 232.25KB, 600x658) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. chinga tu madre pinche puto culero mamónand those are just like common mexican insults, then there's "albures" which are dirty jokes told with figures of speech (double meanings), and there's a lot of derogatory terms relative to ethnicity, birthplace (like calling someone from the u.s "gringo" or "gabacho") and sexual deviancy (maricón, puñal, joto, lencha)Actually must insults have a double meaning in México, like, for example, "mamón", which is used to refer to arrogant dickheads; but the word in fact means something close to "sucker". Or "culero", which is used to call out someone for being mean, but the literal meaning of the word is something like "asshat".
>> Betsy Herringnutch - Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:14:32 EST Xeu02BUO No.11920 Reply >>11485It always sort of embarrasses me when I see people type like this on the internet.Also>fudheidwtf?Anyway, this really made me cringe http://glasgow.stv.tv/articles/303164-gourmet-burger-kitchens-glaswegian-menu-comes-under-fire/What a terrible idea.
>> Jack Sonnertedge - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:29:30 EST ZtJh40Yw No.11922 Reply >>11308It's also used for submissive people in BDSM, especially gay submissive guys.
Does anyone speak Irish (Gaeilge) View Thread Reply Hide Clara Shakeville - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:42:54 EST V3PCboNV No.11633 File: 1409089374301.png -(35293B / 34.47KB, 600x700) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Does anyone who's not a native Irish person know how to speak any Irish? I'm from Ireland myself and sweet fuck all of the people that inhabit this Island can speak their native tongue. Unfortunately I have to include myself in that category. So, have you ever known anyone that wasn't Irish/ from Ireland that could speak Irish? Or even knew if the language was still remotely alive? We have our constitution written in both English and Irish so that's kinda handy. 9 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Eugene Nazzlegold - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:10:38 EST zGA5Pwzt No.11752 Reply >>11744Pretty sure you need an Irish IP to watch TG4 and RTE.TG4 can be really awesome. Sometimes there is some AMAZING documentaries on there about Ireland and her history, language, culture, sport, etc. Other times you get to watch Powerpuff Girls and South Park in Gaelic lol >> Faggy Brookford - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:50:20 EST Z1v+SCTB No.11753 Reply >>11752I don't think that's the case, or at least it was 4-6 years ago. I've managed to stream stuff before with an American ip before too but I guess it could be a fluke or something. >> Ebenezer Cittingchatch - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:44:36 EST 58qa6ktL No.11896 Reply Bhuail mise le cailín as an fhrainc a bhí gaeilge aici am amháinLabhairim féin Gaeilge tír-cónaill 's mar sin de ní raibh mé in inmhe í a thuiscint lol.I met a girl from France who had Irish once, I speak donegal irish though so i couldn't understand her. Woops.
>> Eugene Nazzlegold - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:10:38 EST zGA5Pwzt No.11752 Reply >>11744Pretty sure you need an Irish IP to watch TG4 and RTE.TG4 can be really awesome. Sometimes there is some AMAZING documentaries on there about Ireland and her history, language, culture, sport, etc. Other times you get to watch Powerpuff Girls and South Park in Gaelic lol
>> Faggy Brookford - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:50:20 EST Z1v+SCTB No.11753 Reply >>11752I don't think that's the case, or at least it was 4-6 years ago. I've managed to stream stuff before with an American ip before too but I guess it could be a fluke or something.
>> Ebenezer Cittingchatch - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:44:36 EST 58qa6ktL No.11896 Reply Bhuail mise le cailín as an fhrainc a bhí gaeilge aici am amháinLabhairim féin Gaeilge tír-cónaill 's mar sin de ní raibh mé in inmhe í a thuiscint lol.I met a girl from France who had Irish once, I speak donegal irish though so i couldn't understand her. Woops.
HOW DO YOU DECIDE ON A LANGUAGE View Thread Reply Hide Cyril Shakeham - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:19:31 EST 6S+wMTU7 No.11891 File: 1417915171279.png -(283218B / 276.58KB, 600x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. And how do you keep up with it?There are seriously probably a half dozen or more languages I am very interested in, yet can't settle on one enough to put any effort into it. There are pros and cons to all of them.As part of my self-improvement routine I'm really hoping to settle on 2 and alternate, doing an hour of study every other day. (For example, Latin on MWF, Arabic on TThS). But seriously, how do you even pick one?Next post I will write about which ones I'm interested in, even if just to get it all out of my head and on paper. >> David Brookman - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:28:16 EST h3lr3kpz No.11894 Reply FYI, American. Good Spanish after 8 years of schooling and using it on the job and to read books.>High interest:-Hebrew (modern)Pro: Dad was Israeli. Learning an non-European language will be good for the brain, make me think differently. Also a challenge to learn a new alphabet. Abundance of Hebrew language media is available because Israel is a developed nation.Con: relatively few speakers, especially in the US. Most Israelis know English and would probably rather practice English with me.Won't be able to read the Bible with Modern Hebrew, not that that's very important to me but whatever.-Scots GaelicPro: Mom's side of the family is almost entirely Scots and their culture is important to me. Considered moving there for some time. Celtic languages sound beautiful.Con: No one speaks it. 60,000 in Scotland, basically zero in America. Intermediate and high level materials are hard to find.-LatinPro: Classical literature, foundation of the west. Should be somewhat easy with a strong Spanish base.Con: No use other than reading. Difficult grammar, time could be arguably better spent with a living language.>medium interest-RomanianPro: It's a Romance language, but it's used by eastern Europeans. Could be a sort of easy way into familiarizing myself with slavland without having to learn Cyrillic or something complicated like Russian or Ukrainian. Even though it's not in my blood there's a lot of Eastern Europeans where I live, and I am kind of a slavaboo lately.Con: Sounds stupid, very toothy like Italian. Probably the least widely spoken of the "big 5" Romance languages. By taking the easy way out and not familiarizing myself with much slavic vocab or Cyrillic I might be shooting myself in the foot as far as becoming a slavmaster goes.-RussianPro: One of the most widely used languages in the world. Lingua franca of eastern Europe. Could use this in daily live in certain neighborhoods of my city. Enormous amount of media and huge internet presence assures I'll never get rusty.Con: Extremely complicated, and I don't have that great of an interest in Russia specifically. Worried people will think I'm just another 18yo communist.-Ancient GreekPro: Again, classical literature. But I have a hard time with this stuff because all the classics have been translated to English for seriously a fucking millennium, so I'm not sure I can swallow that there's so much "lost in translation".Con: Used only for reading. A lot more people know Latin than ancient Greek, so using it in an artificial way on the internet would be much harder.-French Comment too long. Click here to view the full text. >> Hugh Pengerbanks - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:54:19 EST H0C+olUa No.11895 Reply >>11894>>11894> and I hear that the Japanese really look down on whites interested in their cultureCould be worse. you could be Korean
>> David Brookman - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:28:16 EST h3lr3kpz No.11894 Reply FYI, American. Good Spanish after 8 years of schooling and using it on the job and to read books.>High interest:-Hebrew (modern)Pro: Dad was Israeli. Learning an non-European language will be good for the brain, make me think differently. Also a challenge to learn a new alphabet. Abundance of Hebrew language media is available because Israel is a developed nation.Con: relatively few speakers, especially in the US. Most Israelis know English and would probably rather practice English with me.Won't be able to read the Bible with Modern Hebrew, not that that's very important to me but whatever.-Scots GaelicPro: Mom's side of the family is almost entirely Scots and their culture is important to me. Considered moving there for some time. Celtic languages sound beautiful.Con: No one speaks it. 60,000 in Scotland, basically zero in America. Intermediate and high level materials are hard to find.-LatinPro: Classical literature, foundation of the west. Should be somewhat easy with a strong Spanish base.Con: No use other than reading. Difficult grammar, time could be arguably better spent with a living language.>medium interest-RomanianPro: It's a Romance language, but it's used by eastern Europeans. Could be a sort of easy way into familiarizing myself with slavland without having to learn Cyrillic or something complicated like Russian or Ukrainian. Even though it's not in my blood there's a lot of Eastern Europeans where I live, and I am kind of a slavaboo lately.Con: Sounds stupid, very toothy like Italian. Probably the least widely spoken of the "big 5" Romance languages. By taking the easy way out and not familiarizing myself with much slavic vocab or Cyrillic I might be shooting myself in the foot as far as becoming a slavmaster goes.-RussianPro: One of the most widely used languages in the world. Lingua franca of eastern Europe. Could use this in daily live in certain neighborhoods of my city. Enormous amount of media and huge internet presence assures I'll never get rusty.Con: Extremely complicated, and I don't have that great of an interest in Russia specifically. Worried people will think I'm just another 18yo communist.-Ancient GreekPro: Again, classical literature. But I have a hard time with this stuff because all the classics have been translated to English for seriously a fucking millennium, so I'm not sure I can swallow that there's so much "lost in translation".Con: Used only for reading. A lot more people know Latin than ancient Greek, so using it in an artificial way on the internet would be much harder.-French Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>> Hugh Pengerbanks - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:54:19 EST H0C+olUa No.11895 Reply >>11894>>11894> and I hear that the Japanese really look down on whites interested in their cultureCould be worse. you could be Korean
Testing View Thread Reply Hide Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:29:23 EST jnF9nI22 No.11884 File: 1417836563901.jpg -(12596B / 12.30KB, 261x198) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. " ႏွစ္လံုးတြဲ စကားတိုေလးမ် ား "(1) About when? = ဘယ္ေတာ့ေလာက္လဲ(2) All set? = အားလံုး အဆင္သင့္ ျဖစ္ျပီးလား(3) Any clues? = ဘာ သဲလြန္စမ် ား ရွိလဲ(4) Any discount ? = ေစ် းေလ်ွ ာ့ဦးမလား(5) Any seats? = ခံုလြတ္ရွိေသးလား(6) Anything else? = ဘာလိုေသးလဲ(7) Anything new? = ဘာထူးေသးလဲ(8) Anything wrong ? = ဘာျဖစ္တာလဲ(9) Apparently so = အဲဒီလို ထင္တာပဲ(10) Back off ! = သြားစမ္းပါ(11) Bad news ! = စိတ္မေကာင္းပါဘူး (ဆိုးလိုက္တဲ့ သတင္း)(12) Be patient ! = စိတ္ရွည္ရွည္ထားစမ္းပါ(13) Be reasonable ! = နည္းလမ္းတက် စဥိးစားၾကည့္(14) Beautiful job ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ လက္ရာ Comment too long. Click here to view the full text. 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:32:03 EST jnF9nI22 No.11886 Reply 1417836723901.jpg -(49531B / 48.37KB, 490x733) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. (101) Just here! = ဒီနားေလးတင္(102) Phone calling ! = ဖုန္းလာေနတယ္(103) Keep trying ! = ဆက္ၾကိဳ းစားပါ(104) What about ? = ဘာေတြေျပာေနတာလဲ(105) Just gossip ! = အတင္းေျပာေနၾကတာပါ(106) No doubt ! = အဲဒါေတာ့ သံသယ မရွိနဲ႕(107) Lovely voice ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ အသံ(108) Can't wait = မေစာင့္ႏိုင္ပါဘူး(109) Dear me ! = အဲလို ဒုကၡပါပဲ(110) So soon ! = မၾကာေတာ့ပါဘူး(111) Really splendid ! = တစ္ကယ့္ သားနားတယ္(112) Just relax ! = စိတ္ေအးေအးထားပါကြာ(113) You wish ! = မင္းေျပာသလို ျဖစ္ပါေစ(114) No lie ? = လိမ္တာ မဟုတ္ဘူးေနာ္(115) Mind that ! = အဲဒါကို သတိရပါ Comment too long. Click here to view the full text. >> Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:39:36 EST jnF9nI22 No.11888 Reply 1417837176901.png -(51026B / 49.83KB, 993x955) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Great. Myanmar language for anyone who's interested. Someone posted on facebok, but my computer didn't have support so I just pasted it here and copied the webpage for future reference. >> Clara Poshdun - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:43:20 EST 9Lmu9Mro No.11889 Reply 1417837400331.jpg -(23963B / 23.40KB, 666x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11888Clever girl
>> Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:32:03 EST jnF9nI22 No.11886 Reply 1417836723901.jpg -(49531B / 48.37KB, 490x733) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. (101) Just here! = ဒီနားေလးတင္(102) Phone calling ! = ဖုန္းလာေနတယ္(103) Keep trying ! = ဆက္ၾကိဳ းစားပါ(104) What about ? = ဘာေတြေျပာေနတာလဲ(105) Just gossip ! = အတင္းေျပာေနၾကတာပါ(106) No doubt ! = အဲဒါေတာ့ သံသယ မရွိနဲ႕(107) Lovely voice ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ အသံ(108) Can't wait = မေစာင့္ႏိုင္ပါဘူး(109) Dear me ! = အဲလို ဒုကၡပါပဲ(110) So soon ! = မၾကာေတာ့ပါဘူး(111) Really splendid ! = တစ္ကယ့္ သားနားတယ္(112) Just relax ! = စိတ္ေအးေအးထားပါကြာ(113) You wish ! = မင္းေျပာသလို ျဖစ္ပါေစ(114) No lie ? = လိမ္တာ မဟုတ္ဘူးေနာ္(115) Mind that ! = အဲဒါကို သတိရပါ Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>> Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:39:36 EST jnF9nI22 No.11888 Reply 1417837176901.png -(51026B / 49.83KB, 993x955) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Great. Myanmar language for anyone who's interested. Someone posted on facebok, but my computer didn't have support so I just pasted it here and copied the webpage for future reference.
>> Clara Poshdun - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:43:20 EST 9Lmu9Mro No.11889 Reply 1417837400331.jpg -(23963B / 23.40KB, 666x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>11888Clever girl
