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Influence of English on the language of Italian media Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Hamilton Nevinglot - Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:25:14 EST ID:jYf4zYSf No.11959
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I'm writing a pretty long paper on the topic thereof. Any good sources I could start from? Both English and Italian work for me.


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John Tillingfoot - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 16:20:57 EST ID:SUCBYNUW No.11898
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'I don't think language creates reality. I think language filters reality, or anchors reality, or sticks reality in place. Or we're all climbing on a big rock cliff, and words are spikes driven into the rock, and languages are chains or ladders of spikes. And people use the spikes so much that they no longer know how to climb on rock. And whole cultures of people, with a limitless cliff face around them, are packed onto a few thin spike trails. And those who know how to drive spikes, and pull them out, manipulate the trails to serve their interests. And people are called "great" when they drive spikes into places no one (from their culture) has been in before. I think Jesus Christ was a rock climber. And St. Paul saw people starting to follow Jesus onto the rocks, and got frightened, and drove a few spikes in the direction Jesus was going and called it Christianity. And the central doctrine of Christianity is that Jesus was the only rock climber. I think we're all rock climbers. But I want to hang out here on the spikes a while longer. As St. Augustine said, "Lord, take away all my temptations, only not just yet.'
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Cedric Crallerfoot - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:06:23 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.11903 Ignore Report Reply
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>>11898
What a mishmash of ideas and concepts... First it assumes that there's some sort of universal and pure truth. Then it claims that words either hinder in realising that truth, or at the very best, are merely tools to be used by man.

After that, blammo, there's Jesus Christ Superstarclimber, and then... I'm lost.
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George Blythewater - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:27:48 EST ID:c6hl5F2A No.11924 Ignore Report Reply
>>11898
I remember seeing this thread on /b/ a few weeks ago. Were you the OP? At least there you got an active thread going. What I want to know is where you got this opinion about language from? Assuming that language creates reality is wrong but you have no foundation for your alternative so I wouldn't assume its any more correct than the point you disagreed with. Reality is something we need to learn through experience but without language how would we have the tools to learn it?


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Turanj - Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:00:11 EST ID:YfZha+8z No.11307
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http://boards.420chan.org/b/res/3602430.php

I was having a moment of thought on the fact that 'sucks' literally means to suck a dick, so every time in daytime TV someone says 'this thing sucks a big fat veiny dick' but people don't reocognise it as that, just as a general negative descriptive term.

So what are some good ones in your local vicinity? A pretty all-engrossing one from the UK that you yankfags may not be familiar with is 'gimp' for someone with bad taste or poor social skills - you're a gimp mate. Probably tantamount to calling someone a bitch, although less to do with them being a pussy.

Another local par via articulate is 'whopper', which I'm not actually sure the origins are, but its a good one to say.
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Eliza Fivingdore - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:14:18 EST ID:1V74kwKY No.11904 Ignore Report Reply
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chinga tu madre pinche puto culero mamón

and those are just like common mexican insults, then there's "albures" which are dirty jokes told with figures of speech (double meanings), and there's a lot of derogatory terms relative to ethnicity, birthplace (like calling someone from the u.s "gringo" or "gabacho") and sexual deviancy (maricón, puñal, joto, lencha)
Actually must insults have a double meaning in México, like, for example, "mamón", which is used to refer to arrogant dickheads; but the word in fact means something close to "sucker". Or "culero", which is used to call out someone for being mean, but the literal meaning of the word is something like "asshat".
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Betsy Herringnutch - Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:14:32 EST ID:Xeu02BUO No.11920 Ignore Report Reply
>>11485
It always sort of embarrasses me when I see people type like this on the internet.
Also
>fudheid
wtf?
Anyway, this really made me cringe http://glasgow.stv.tv/articles/303164-gourmet-burger-kitchens-glaswegian-menu-comes-under-fire/
What a terrible idea.
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Jack Sonnertedge - Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:29:30 EST ID:ZtJh40Yw No.11922 Ignore Report Reply
>>11308

It's also used for submissive people in BDSM, especially gay submissive guys.


Does anyone speak Irish (Gaeilge) Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Clara Shakeville - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:42:54 EST ID:V3PCboNV No.11633
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Does anyone who's not a native Irish person know how to speak any Irish? I'm from Ireland myself and sweet fuck all of the people that inhabit this Island can speak their native tongue. Unfortunately I have to include myself in that category.

So, have you ever known anyone that wasn't Irish/ from Ireland that could speak Irish? Or even knew if the language was still remotely alive?

We have our constitution written in both English and Irish so that's kinda handy.
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Eugene Nazzlegold - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:10:38 EST ID:zGA5Pwzt No.11752 Ignore Report Reply
>>11744
Pretty sure you need an Irish IP to watch TG4 and RTE.

TG4 can be really awesome. Sometimes there is some AMAZING documentaries on there about Ireland and her history, language, culture, sport, etc. Other times you get to watch Powerpuff Girls and South Park in Gaelic lol
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Faggy Brookford - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 10:50:20 EST ID:Z1v+SCTB No.11753 Ignore Report Reply
>>11752
I don't think that's the case, or at least it was 4-6 years ago. I've managed to stream stuff before with an American ip before too but I guess it could be a fluke or something.
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Ebenezer Cittingchatch - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:44:36 EST ID:58qa6ktL No.11896 Ignore Report Reply
Bhuail mise le cailín as an fhrainc a bhí gaeilge aici am amháin
Labhairim féin Gaeilge tír-cónaill 's mar sin de ní raibh mé in inmhe í a thuiscint lol.

I met a girl from France who had Irish once, I speak donegal irish though so i couldn't understand her. Woops.


HOW DO YOU DECIDE ON A LANGUAGE Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Cyril Shakeham - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:19:31 EST ID:6S+wMTU7 No.11891
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And how do you keep up with it?
There are seriously probably a half dozen or more languages I am very interested in, yet can't settle on one enough to put any effort into it. There are pros and cons to all of them.

As part of my self-improvement routine I'm really hoping to settle on 2 and alternate, doing an hour of study every other day. (For example, Latin on MWF, Arabic on TThS). But seriously, how do you even pick one?

Next post I will write about which ones I'm interested in, even if just to get it all out of my head and on paper.
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David Brookman - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:28:16 EST ID:h3lr3kpz No.11894 Ignore Report Reply
FYI, American. Good Spanish after 8 years of schooling and using it on the job and to read books.

>High interest:
-Hebrew (modern)
Pro: Dad was Israeli. Learning an non-European language will be good for the brain, make me think differently. Also a challenge to learn a new alphabet. Abundance of Hebrew language media is available because Israel is a developed nation.
Con: relatively few speakers, especially in the US. Most Israelis know English and would probably rather practice English with me.
Won't be able to read the Bible with Modern Hebrew, not that that's very important to me but whatever.

-Scots Gaelic
Pro: Mom's side of the family is almost entirely Scots and their culture is important to me. Considered moving there for some time. Celtic languages sound beautiful.
Con: No one speaks it. 60,000 in Scotland, basically zero in America. Intermediate and high level materials are hard to find.

-Latin
Pro: Classical literature, foundation of the west. Should be somewhat easy with a strong Spanish base.
Con: No use other than reading. Difficult grammar, time could be arguably better spent with a living language.
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Hugh Pengerbanks - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:54:19 EST ID:H0C+olUa No.11895 Ignore Report Reply
>>11894
>>11894
> and I hear that the Japanese really look down on whites interested in their culture

Could be worse.

you could be Korean


Testing Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:29:23 EST ID:jnF9nI22 No.11884
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" ႏွစ္လံုးတြဲ စကားတိုေလးမ် ား "

(1) About when? = ဘယ္ေတာ့ေလာက္လဲ

(2) All set? = အားလံုး အဆင္သင့္ ျဖစ္ျပီးလား

(3) Any clues? = ဘာ သဲလြန္စမ် ား ရွိလဲ

(4) Any discount ? = ေစ် းေလ်ွ ာ့ဦးမလား

(5) Any seats? = ခံုလြတ္ရွိေသးလား

(6) Anything else? = ဘာလိုေသးလဲ

(7) Anything new? = ဘာထူးေသးလဲ
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Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:32:03 EST ID:jnF9nI22 No.11886 Ignore Report Reply
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(101) Just here! = ဒီနားေလးတင္

(102) Phone calling ! = ဖုန္းလာေနတယ္

(103) Keep trying ! = ဆက္ၾကိဳ းစားပါ

(104) What about ? = ဘာေတြေျပာေနတာလဲ

(105) Just gossip ! = အတင္းေျပာေနၾကတာပါ

(106) No doubt ! = အဲဒါေတာ့ သံသယ မရွိနဲ႕

(107) Lovely voice ! = ေကာင္းလိုက္တဲ့ အသံ

(108) Can't wait = မေစာင့္ႏိုင္ပါဘူး
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Phyllis Gackledale - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:39:36 EST ID:jnF9nI22 No.11888 Ignore Report Reply
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Great. Myanmar language for anyone who's interested. Someone posted on facebok, but my computer didn't have support so I just pasted it here and copied the webpage for future reference.
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Clara Poshdun - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:43:20 EST ID:9Lmu9Mro No.11889 Ignore Report Reply
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>>11888
Clever girl



Pseudo-intellectual internet "linguists" Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Cornelius Dillyfield - Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:21:22 EST ID:fa47rx37 No.8677
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Stop this, you pseudo-intellectual faggots.

English has many many words that other languages don't have. Also, this isn't a word, not even a compound. I can just start saying "elevating spirit" or some shit too. Stop downplaying English when you find other languages as if they are the arc of the bloody covenant or something and somehow inherently superior to English because they have a few words or phrases that English doesn't use/have in the same manner.
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Faggy Bockleway - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 15:00:49 EST ID:LN34p4C8 No.11852 Ignore Report Reply
>>11851
What a horrifically eurocentric assessment!

You did a great job but answered the question how grammatical gender evolved in PIE but not why grammatical gender is needed. Uralic and Turkic languages never parse their words for gender; they even have gender neutral pronouns. Afro-Asiatic languages also have grammatical gender although there's evolved independently from PIE's. Coincidently, the (classical) Arabic feminine ending ة was also a glottal fricative (h) and is still written as such but these days you just pronounce a or at.

Sophie Nabbersare is correct in thinking grammatical gender has no extricable purpose. It once did in PIE did but it's nothing more than a vestigial feature.
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Frederick Chundlelock - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:17:18 EST ID:+5oX0u2R No.11879 Ignore Report Reply
>>11850

it often makes it more clear what you are referring to exactly when you say "it"
depends on the language.
Is it necessary, no. is it useful? yes. considering how easy it is for kids to learn it anyway there is no reason not to have like 20 genders.. and there are some languages that have genders in the double digits
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Nathaniel Gerrysteck - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:39:27 EST ID:4wV/INP8 No.11900 Ignore Report Reply
>>8679
I wish we did. All this character, personality and individuality repulses me. It's disgustingly inefficient.


WRITTEN Language Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Sidney Sinkinkare - Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:16:11 EST ID:24ygmyw9 No.11555
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Native Hindi and English speaker here . However I am learning the north Indian script . I can read Urdu - which is mutually intelligible but uses Arabic alphabet .

So got to thinking . Even tho i only speak 2 languages i can read 4 scripts : Latin Greek Arab Devnagar

So what spoken languages and what scripts are you fluent and what you want to learn ? Aside from the above I know a little spanish and franch but nowhere near fluent. As far as writing chinese interests me .
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Albert Gaggledale - Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:23:07 EST ID:Wrogz3dW No.11754 Ignore Report Reply
>>11555
I am trying to learn Japanese kanji, plus their hiragana & katakana scripts..

Good luck with Urdu, OP!
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David Pumblesurk - Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:29:15 EST ID:b4qeTsnA No.11812 Ignore Report Reply
im dyslexic
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Shitting Niggerdale - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:53:38 EST ID:GqsP0ZtK No.11858 Ignore Report Reply
>>11812
I would be interested to know how a dyslexic manages with japanese writing! My friend said ages ago that it's not a problem in Japan, so their literacy is way higher than the UK.


Blah is the langauge of...... Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Martha Gossleville - Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:46:24 EST ID:4+ObrLLz No.8949
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As languages are sometimes associcated with nouns, Like french is the language of love, (well that is the only one i know) or italien is the language of music, german of philosophy!
Then wat are languages (in particular Farsi, if ye know) or any langauge at all?
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Esther Dindlewidge - Tue, 02 Sep 2014 15:37:06 EST ID:F8xE90or No.11663 Ignore Report Reply
Danish is the language of incomprehensible drunks
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moxie !QvI1p9.OFY - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 18:03:08 EST ID:avmU74pl No.11856 Ignore Report Reply
>>11520
no, lithuanian is the language of stoic assholes
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Emma Cubberhall - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:17:12 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.11857 Ignore Report Reply
Japanese is the language of romance. Why? Because my japanese teacher said so.

And english is the language of nouns. Because other languages use the word "substantive".


help Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Phineas Mabberhot - Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:13:24 EST ID:NSiA5J4q No.11560
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I'm not a native English speaker and I want to start reading English novels but i'm afraid of not being able to read some of its words, especially the vowel words that seem like they have the short vowel sound but in reality the vowels or some are long.
How do you guys figure this out?
Are they rules?
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:13:12 EST ID:p/0MewD3 No.11854 Ignore Report Reply
>>11853
Yes, I'm a native English speaker. I don't really see or understand the pronunciations; I just "speak" the words inside my head as I read them so I can hear the different pronunciations.
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Eliza Demmleford - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:58:57 EST ID:RYQ9LXTa No.11855 Ignore Report Reply
>>11854
Thanks for the reply. I guess that's something that also comes with fluency, since I don't really have to think about the different rules (or deviances) either. I have just memorized everything phonetically. But it's still very apparent how "illogical" english can be at times, when I only merely look at the words.
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Cyril Semblehedge - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:26:25 EST ID:xLdweCCV No.11870 Ignore Report Reply
>>11838
this, but it can be any american (or british, i don't know what you want) media. just be sure to use subtitles, they are a must.
the correct answer is the simpsons though


Looking for a few honorable Klingons for linguistics research Ignore Report View Thread Reply
[email protected] - Sun, 09 Nov 2014 22:58:23 EST ID:riuwJDLT No.11845
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(X-POST /1701/

Looking for a few volunteers from all linguistic backgrounds- anyone with a decent microphone. Read from a deck of flash cards 5 times and you're done. I haven't completely designed the deck just yet, but I don't expect it to be too long, and it'll be a mix of single words and short phrases- all utterances common in Klingon.
It's not paid (like most good research work should be) but for those interested, I can follow up with the final product (something like 10 pages?). This paper will hopefully mark the end of my academic career, so, Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam!


Learning Mandarin Ignore Report View Thread Reply
George Snodway - Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:19:18 EST ID:03QHJwUF No.11757
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Hello, is there a site similar to duolingo.com that I can use to learn to speak Mandarin?

(I am just trying to learn conversation and pinyin, learning the characters is quite an undertaking)
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Graham Hoshbury - Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:17:57 EST ID:dJPTibKY No.11803 Ignore Report Reply
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hskflashcards com is pretty good if you decide to learn some characters.
This is a pretty slow board so might as well make it /mandarin/ since there are never threads for it on /int/

Ni hao!
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Sophie Dimmerlock - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:53:36 EST ID:wHm1akGe No.11818 Ignore Report Reply
>>11757
我也再学习中文。 你可以看节目《舌尖上的中国》和《爸爸去哪儿》
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Martin Clungermadge - Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:36:40 EST ID:mgnE7JTe No.11819 Ignore Report Reply
NI HAO, WO HUE JONG WEN!

SHAO SHIN I DIEN!

BU HAO ISSU!

MEI SHUR, ZAI JIEN!

thats what ive learned so far


I Need Immersion Ignore Report View Thread Reply
Zaku Kashaku - Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:23 EST ID:GZrW1Uha No.11737
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Please help me find japanese audio tracks of just people talking. nothing more. thanks in advance!
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Rebecca Blumbledadge - Sun, 12 Oct 2014 17:24:26 EST ID:j4Qk1zGk No.11778 Ignore Report Reply
watch NHK and anime with subtitles
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Isabella Narringson - Mon, 13 Oct 2014 08:32:17 EST ID:qBI904is No.11779 Ignore Report Reply
Look up whatever interests you in Japanese in iTunes, then hit up podcasts. You'll be set for years with how much free content there is. Also, you don't need to switch to the Japanese iTunes store to search podcasts since they're all free.
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Cornelius Cettingsotch - Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:44:56 EST ID:qqFv6N96 No.11804 Ignore Report Reply
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http://qvc.jp/cont/live/Main?serverId=8
and we can't stop and we won't stop


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