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- Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:13:24 EST NSiA5J4q No.11560
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I'm not a native English speaker and I want to start reading English novels but i'm afraid of not being able to read some of its words, especially the vowel words that seem like they have the short vowel sound but in reality the vowels or some are long.
How do you guys figure this out?
Are they rules?
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Betsy Sollytune - Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:33:20 EST i0gwflFu No.11561 Reply
vowel length (or even "stress") is not a big deal in english, since varying it does not result in a different meaning. however i suspect your pronunciation is just all kinds of fucked, since vowel length is hardly the only thing that is vague in english orthography. watch some video game walkthroughs (with commentary) on youtube or something to improve.
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Samuel Hebbleson - Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:54:31 EST XnC1cGBX No.11563 Reply
>seem like they have the short vowel sound but in reality the vowels or some are long
Could you give an example?
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Caroline Finderwot - Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:01:57 EST aGhz4jlt No.11573 Reply
Vowel sounds in English are almost impossible to figure out just from looking at the written word. You could look into doing some phonics lessons or something but there are always tons of exceptions to any rule.
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Alice Guddleshit - Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:00:37 EST Nopi8P26 No.11575 Reply
Don't worry about it. It doesn't really matter if you pronounce the word wrong at first; people will know what you mean anyway. Even native speakers fuck it up regularly.
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Hamilton Crublingshit - Sun, 02 Nov 2014 23:00:31 EST OjLo2QGb No.11827 Reply
>>11561
>vowel length (or even "stress") is not a big deal in english
>beach vs. bitch
>ínsult (noun) vs. insúlt (verb)
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Matilda Hagglenuck - Tue, 04 Nov 2014 22:54:28 EST j4Qk1zGk No.11828 Reply
>>11827
those could be determined by context.
there's a lot lost in cultural translation too
to learn a language you have to practice tho
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Tue, 04 Nov 2014 23:08:57 EST aIIn42QD No.11829 Reply
The sound of the vowel usually depends on the consonants surrounding it. There are thousands of different examples and here's just one:
If a word ends in a_e, the a will usually have a longer sound than if a word just ends in a_. "Hate" is pronounced "heɪt" (the e at the end is silent; it just changes the sound of the a that comes before) while "hat" is pronounced "hæt". There are always exceptions to the rules though. The word "have" is pronounced "hæv" even though it looks like it should be "heɪv".

So basically, you should listen to people speaking English to learn all the weird rules and exceptions.
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Oliver Pirryhall - Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:30:37 EST uOXkixGi No.11830 Reply
Learn the IPA for English, when you look up a word in a good dictionary you'll see the phonetic spelling of it

Vowel length is a massive deal, do not ignore it. it can be quite hard to understand if people say the wrong one. You'll get it with practice :)

There's a whole bunch of places online where you can hear words pronounced by natives, forvo.com is a good one.
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Augustus Fubbleshit - Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:29:12 EST /EU2SyHZ No.11834 Reply
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just testing
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Emma Gablingspear - Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:20:56 EST mgnE7JTe No.11838 Reply
just watch a bunch of cartoons

i recommend samurai jack
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Eliza Demmleford - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:53:31 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11853 Reply
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>>11829
Out of curiosity, are you a native english speaker?

I've always wondered if people who speak english natively "see" or "understand" those different pronouciations. For someone like me, who uses english as a foreign language, they are very apparent. But I'm not so sure if it is so for those whose mother tongue is english. (Especially if they don't speak other languages...)
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CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:13:12 EST p/0MewD3 No.11854 Reply
>>11853
Yes, I'm a native English speaker. I don't really see or understand the pronunciations; I just "speak" the words inside my head as I read them so I can hear the different pronunciations.
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Eliza Demmleford - Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:58:57 EST RYQ9LXTa No.11855 Reply
>>11854
Thanks for the reply. I guess that's something that also comes with fluency, since I don't really have to think about the different rules (or deviances) either. I have just memorized everything phonetically. But it's still very apparent how "illogical" english can be at times, when I only merely look at the words.
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Cyril Semblehedge - Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:26:25 EST xLdweCCV No.11870 Reply
>>11838
this, but it can be any american (or british, i don't know what you want) media. just be sure to use subtitles, they are a must.
the correct answer is the simpsons though
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