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Horrible night

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- Thu, 11 Jan 2018 05:40:04 EST qjrZm4Bb No.46047
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So I went to visit a family I knew very well in town yesterday and something occured
>they invited me in
>I had a brief discussion about a certain matter
>it gets heated
>they ask me to leave and as I am leaving...
> mother son and father of them proceeded to attack me
>I managed to push the father away and he went flying
>he apparently was injured
>the mother wasn't
>I sustained a busted lip and broken glasses
>the police showed up
>I tell them my story and they tell them theirs
>they take me to the ambulance to be clean up
>they then take me to the station
>afterward the give me the charges

Criminal trespass in the second
Harassment second degree
Harassment third degree
Criminal Mischief Fourth

Someone said they got me a good lawyer for free
and my dad is a parole officer. He says these are easy to fight

I live in ny
Am I screwed ?
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Hannah Sussleville - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:11:47 EST 5mxOM+nR No.46054 Reply
did you press charges against them? what story did they tell the police? it'll probably end up being your word against theirs.
Dextrolord - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 20:37:29 EST UvVhSC/Y No.46059 Reply
Brah u only gotta cop to what u HAVE BEEN sentenced with.

I've been riding on this for over half a year, my landlord has no idea I'm a felon. And my biggest boss at work only knows so I can get dates off for court trials

COmmon Law

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- Fri, 15 Dec 2017 21:37:38 EST dMXCI0R2 No.45995
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How do we use common law to defeat cannabis laws? Common law should be able to bypass them entirely, given how they were written before such laws existed, and have obscurities like bypassing your surname to be able to nullify parts of law against you, as they were for slaves. Halp? I need weed in this fucking desert. It is over a six hour drive through the desert to get to a dispensary, and even the fucking state workers want weed in at this point.
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Jenny Fuckingdale - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:30:28 EST cEwuNxwz No.46063 Reply
>Why do you think the founders saw fit to include the second amendment?

Because they were distrustful of standing armies and favored the ability of citizens to form militias to defend the several states. Good luck with the armed insurrection though. Also filing frivolous lawsuits like your picture is a great way to get felony charges in a lot of states, so good luck with that too.


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- Thu, 28 Dec 2017 17:47:59 EST JydAJUbU No.46020
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So early december my girlfriend and I got caught trying to steal some dumb shit from walmart and got caught. I was seen on camera helping her hide shit. It was fucking dumb, neither of us do this type of shit and we have no excuse really. The police were too busy at that time to actually see us and let us know what was going to happen, we never got anything in the mail regarding any possible charges, no phone call, nothing. Figured the police didnt give a shit about a 3rd degree retail fraud call from walmart regarding ~$50 in recovered merchandise and assumed we had gotten lucky.

About a month prior to this event I applied and interviewed for a job. I didn't hear anything back about the job until about a week ago where I took my drug test, consented to a background check, etc. Today I got an email from HR asking me to explain the warrant I have out for me that I had no idea existed.

I guess what I want to know is the employer's rights regarding rescinding the job offer, what I should and shouldn't do in order to possibly get this shit off my record, and whether or not I should get a lawyer, which I very much can not afford at the moment.

I feel like I'm royally fucked out of this job because I had no idea I had the warrant at the time I consented for the background check. other than this warrant I have a completely clean record.

Thanks for any input, I'm shitting bricks here
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Caroline Gungerdare - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:09:16 EST mIwYUMzr No.46084 Reply
If one has a warrant you can do a walk thorough, as they call it here. Where you post the bond and merely go to the police station and full out bail/bond paperwork. Without being arrested. You may need to do mug shot, finderprinting, etc. Better than getting picked up traveling, or walking on the streets. Especially if you happen to have something less than legal on you. This would get you a cout date set and worry about ending up in jail for a warrant for your arrest.-


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- Tue, 06 Feb 2018 22:26:20 EST v9q24VQ7 No.46074
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Today I stopped by to get some stuff from a friend. Said stuff could potentially be of interest. I accidentally parked by someone who had very pro police memorabilia on their car. I stayed over for about 30 minutes. When I came out they were on the phone and staring at me. This happened in the past, so realistically how bad could this be for me if this happened a few weeks ago? A few months ago? Basically how long do I need to be more cautious for?
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Doris Honeydale - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 03:26:25 EST ojXA8mez No.46090 Reply
Yea, don't worry about these people. They are generally considered worthless groupies to the police. Often more of an obstacle to 'real' law enforcement than helping.
Basil Clinderworth - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:32:00 EST TjWI7Gnh No.46103 Reply

>implying CIA won't be waiting for him with a private siberian gulag cell

recording cops and laws?

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- Thu, 15 Feb 2018 12:03:27 EST cfYutFUh No.46098
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is it against the law for a cop to take your phone away when you try to record them? i thought it was illegal for them to do that and you're allowed to record and by law they have to let you.
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Sidney Bollypitch - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:19:18 EST VDw2Ex8H No.46105 Reply
It's not always legal, there's several states that consider it wiretapping and will prosecute it.

But in almost all states it is. It's also in all of those states perfectly fine for an officer to determine you holding up a phone is interfering with his investigation and take it.
Charlotte Hollysteck - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 23:38:12 EST TD3h0WTL No.46106 Reply
Reasonably, if you aren't getting in their faces then no issue. Often cops are more worried about 'officer safety' when somebody is casually caming them than they are with the issue at hand.

Some laws have been put in place that one cannot film or record police in public. Obviously paranoid troubled local city government. Police are not allowed to take peoples phones and review contents without a warrant, or possibly if it directly relates to issue at hand, like if a drug deal one of the detainees said whomever texted, and texted back. But The Supreme courts have ruled police cannot just take peoples phones and review material, surely what you ask, this falls in the same category of search and seizure.

I have cammed cops, not by default, but when something is sneaky going on. And somethings, cannot be played off. by moment to moment without extra mishaps trying to correct themselves. Sometimes it's almost hilarious.

As well people have been jailed for recording police in public and get jailed for obstruction. What a kick to the head of an already detained and secured suspect. keep videoing. It's not, we pay your salary, to police, it's more like we pay taxes and do not want bad actors running various parts of government. Police or not.

Skipped out on Drug Court.

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- Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:27:20 EST 7JgUl4Rz No.46092
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Hiya I was on a drug court program and I got a fail on the east coast. I got the charge for possession of drug paraphernalia (a rolled cigarette). Yet some how I got tested positive for opiates. Going back to jail would've quite literally ended my life, so I made the decision to just jump state. I've been on the West Coast for a few years now and made a bail bondsman friend. They want me to start working there as a secretary.
Yet I know to become an eventual bailbondsman you can't have any open warrants any where.
Does any one in LAW have any idea around this? Is there any way to get in contact with courts and get this switched to where I'm living now?
Now that I have the medications I need, I'm not afraid to go back to jail and would happily serve my time out. However, I CANNOT do it back in my home state. They refuse to give me my medication.
I would like to iron this out, being a bailbond agent seems like it could be a good career for me. Yet will I just have to give this up because I'm not willing to have my health fucked up for 8-12 months in my home state?
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Fanny Hubberserk - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 07:04:12 EST VDw2Ex8H No.46095 Reply
You need to contact the court and find out what they want you to do.

If they want you back, you're going back regardless. So you'll know the score and maybe you can work something out.

Btw, if you were in my state, where defendants have to make a conditional plea they can withdraw after completing drug court, you'd have felony escape warrants on you now, and if that's the case, you're going to want to resolve that on your terms, instead of the terms of us marshalls.
Charles Nubberbanks - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:59:12 EST lxVhxi5t No.46111 Reply
Whatever the case drug courts are an easy out, one can be sentenced to the original maximum penalty if they fail to follow through drug court requirements.

It would be a cooud idea to take care of the warrant, and see if they would accept a second chance offering to drug court diversion.

fake ID in virginia

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- Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:05:15 EST XBKVnpb3 No.46066
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my girlfriend and one of her friends' were driving around the other night and got pulled over. when my girlfriend's buddy is pulling out her driver's license, the cop sees her fake ID and busts her on it. Should she hire a lawyer? it's not like she's about to beat the charge either way.
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Frederick Sirryspear - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 06:22:09 EST TjWI7Gnh No.46115 Reply
i would only ever hire a lawyer if i were facing a felony, or some exorbitant financial costs

got DUI right as i was about to move?

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- Sat, 10 Feb 2018 01:47:15 EST cfYutFUh No.46081
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hello guys i was thinking of moving somewhere else and i've been looking and planning and stuff but i slid on some snow and went off the road and got a felony DUI because it was my second DUI.

my first DUI was reduced or not counted or something because they gave me a one year conditional thing to lose the charge if i didnt get in trouble and i never did but i guess this second one was still a felony.

i talked to my friend who got 2 dui's back to back and the second one he rolled a car over completely on the freeway while he was still in trouble for the first one but they made him do a really long drug program that he messed up or 6 months in jail plus 3 years probation.

will they do some shit to trap me here or can i just leave and go somewhere else new as long as i pay my fines and do everything the court orders? My last dui was like 6 years ago and they've all been really minor offenses no accidents or injuries or major damage or anything.

my fear is that they make me do some program that makes me sit here forever and go through some stupid hoops or something if i get probation how hard is it to switch states with that? I still have free health insurance through my parents for a few months so should i just check into some chemical dependancy/out patient rehab program thing now since the court will probably order it anyway and get it out of the way now?

how fucked am i? is that seriously going to stick as a dui and i need a good lawyer to get it reduced? like if i don't pay someone a fuckton of money i can't get it dropped? it wasnt an agrevated dui or anything i just slipped on some snow a few inches off the road i didn't really fuck anything up or get aggrevated charges.

what should i expect on my first court date? im scared to speak or say anything to a judge without a lawyer and that's my time to sign up for a public defender and stuff like that. could i find a lawyer for like $500 or something and have them take care of my stuff or does it always have to be like 2000-3000 for a lawyer?

how fucked am i on moving? is it gonna be possible to move? i don't see how im going to be able to get anything done here when they take my license away because i live in a small ass town with like 1 street light for 30 miles i have to drive fucking HOURS to go and do anything at all i don't really get what im supposed to do.

i was going to move to a city where i can at least use public transportation even if its inconvienant at least its there at all. what can i do to make sure i can leave? i don't even really mind the loss of a license anyway i was going to avoid getting a car to avoid paying for it plus insurance and stuff like that.

what should i expect? what do i do? my last dui was 6 years before this so kind of a long time and they're never aggrevated duis or anything but i get a felony and all that shit? that seems crazy so i have to pay a shit load on insurance for the rest of my life and have a felony over 2 small mistakes while im young. what the hell do i do now? im afraid to talk to a judge to admit or say anything wrong without a lawyer im gonna have a felony and no car or vehicle living in the middle of fucking nowhere with it being a 60-70 mile commute to go to stores, jobs, and friends houses and shit
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Betsy Hagglebune - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 06:34:06 EST VDw2Ex8H No.46124 Reply
i think you guys are confused about basic criminal procedure. He already has a bond because he's out of jail. The arraignment he's describing is a formal arraignment to have the charges read to him. Some jurisdictions may call preliminary hearings (the ones that have to happen within 24-72 hours of arrest) arraignments too, but that's a completely different hearing (and if y'all exercise some elementary reading comprehension you'd know already happened in his case)

So no, op, you're not going to jail unless you want to
Fuck Fessledock - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:02:45 EST bJN3Ctfu No.46125 Reply
>He already has a bond because he's out of jail.
He never said he went to jail. He said he was arrested. Then he received a summons and came here to ask dumb questions about posting bond in advance of his hearing. It sounds like he was released without bond pending a formal complaint. I don't know about DUIs in New York, but that's not uncommon elsewhere. If there's no bond set or the judge doesn't like him, additional restrictions would not be surprising.

>if y'all exercise some elementary reading comprehension you'd know already happened in his case
I disagree.
Betsy Shittingfoot - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 23:27:35 EST 0VaN8his No.46126 Reply
To simplify this a bit. If you were taken t o police station and fingerprinted and all
and let go. You will not receive any bail. Unless considered a flight risk. Even
then. You would likely be free to move about as you wish, just show up for court dates. If you do not, you would not be able to get a drivers salience in another
state. Could possibly be extradited back if stopped and IDd. You will NOT
get a bail bond amount, as in $$$. A personal recongance bond to promise to appear in court on your behalf, not the courts behalf by putting you in jail.

not enough info.

The Millionth Felony

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- Sun, 18 Feb 2018 03:01:30 EST 8+A1tM2O No.46112
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>This one might be a Federal Offense.
I want shoot this chick in the face until the slide locks I fucking hate her shes a worthless ass liar. Probably needs to get her ass beat for trying to get me killed. Before I dump the whole clip into her chest. Fucking Nation of Islam fucking cunt.
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Fuck Gavingfuck - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:52:14 EST 8+A1tM2O No.46117 Reply
I doubt the Bureau of Fuc Boi Investigation is going to actually prosecute this fucc boi, posting all this nonsense.
Fuck Gavingfuck - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:15:37 EST 8+A1tM2O No.46118 Reply
Also I dont have AIDS and have never used hard drugs. Sucks to be stalked by Highly Trained Killers and the hynas in Uniform.
Fuck Gavingfuck - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 17:36:40 EST 8+A1tM2O No.46119 Reply
I deserve this shit I guess.
I mean how could I not.

Possession of Paraphernalia

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- Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:34:04 EST PdoeF1dV No.46052
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1 misdemeanor charge in Florida, plead "not guilty," non-jury trial court date on 1/30/2018 without a lawyer

As a disclaimer, I understand that 420chan is not the "ideal" place to go for legal advice, so there's no need for explaining that in the comments. I'm simply stating my story here as a place to vent as well as the opportunity to get perspectives from people who may have had similar experiences, but please feel free to give me your legal opinions, especially if you have experience with similar charges; in fact, I'd greatly appreciate it. In addition to this post, I've been doing what I can to research and ask around town for free legal advice.

It started with my friend (driver) and I (passenger) running hours late to a concert we had purchased tickets for. He picked me up and in a rush, made an illegal U-turn and ran a stop sign on the college campus where I attend and live in a dorm. A campus police officer that we didn't see parked to the side immediately pulled us over before we even got off campus.

While my friend was gathering his 'license and registration' documents to hand over to the police officer, he shone his flashlight in the car and saw in the cup holder a glass bowl (caked with residue) and a single-chamber, black, plastic grinder. He then did not ask us or give us a reason why, but simply told us to step out of the vehicle, which we did. There had been no smoking of or smell or marijuana in or around the car at this time. I'm assuming his "reasonable suspicion" was having seen the glass bowl/grinder, but I'm concerned that him seeing that in the cup holder is not sufficient cause for reasonable suspicion to search the car. Those items could very well have been used for tobacco products; he wouldn't have known that they were used for marijuana before searching the car, so how did he have grounds?

He then conducted a somewhat thorough search of the vehicle, including the trunk. He found five pieces of my friend's paraphernalia that he charged him with and that he admitted to being his. They were in a decorative box which had sentimental value and was not inherently illegal on its own, but the officer took that as well.

He then approached me with a RAW rolling machine and pack of Juicy Jay papers and asked me if they were mine because they were on my side of the car. I admitted that, yes they're mine, because I thought, why lie? He asked me why I didn't tell him about the items before the search, and I said because these items are not inherently illegal on their own. I use them to roll perfectly legal tobacco cigarettes. I believe he asked me if it had ever been used to roll marijuana before, and I answered that it probably had, but no time recently, especially not that day. I was, of course, unaware that at this point my friend, who had clearly been in the majority of the possession, being that it was his car, had admitted to ownership of all potentially illegal items in the car, including the roller and papers that were on my side. But being that the items are not illegal and used for tobacco, I saw no reason to lie or foresee that my friend would say items that were mine were his.

The police officer gave us both "written arrests" for Possession of Paraphernalia. We had the same first arraignment in court, where my friend was approved for the "misdemeanor intervention program" (MIP), which is slightly less serious but similar to probation, and which results in your charges being "nolo contendre;" the case essentially being dismissed upon successful completion. When applying for and being accepted into the "MIP," the court uses vague language which makes the defendant think that their case is entirely dropped and erased upon completion. Only when the program is completed and you receive a "disposition" document stating your case has been closed can you then apply for sealing/expungement of your charges.

I know this because I have done it once before, about 3 years ago, in the same county, for somewhat similar charges, including the successful MIP and even sealing of my record. So, when I had my first arraingment for this case, my sealed record was not immediately accessible information to them. It was only when I applied for the MIP the second time around that I was rejected and it was discovered the reason why is because I had a sealed case and completed MIP in the past.

Instead of being given a formal document stating the reason for the MIP rejection, I was simply given a new court date to appear to, so technically my second arraignment. For this, I applied for and was appointed the affordable public defender. At first, her advice was to plead "not guilty" due to the lack of evidence and very short arrest report. When we discussed the reason for my MIP rejection and she realized I have a sealed record, she changed her mind and advised me to plead "no contest" a second time, which would have resulted in the withhold of adjudication and being required to simply pay all court costs, while the charge remains on my record.

In the "heat of the moment," I suppose, I decided to change my mind on the stand and plead "not guilty." The judge then gave me a time and date to return for my non-jury trial hearing and unappointed the entire Office of the Public Defender from my case. Upon inquiring why that was, the public defender told me it was because it has already been indicated that regardless of the outcome, jail or probation time will not be pursued.

Since then, I have been researching all the "free student legal aid" resources I can find and some attorneys have been nice enough to give me their opinions or consultations for free. Some of them were adamant that I should hire a lawyer but others sounded like they had a gli…
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Lillian Sanninghore - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:34:41 EST PdoeF1dV No.46053 Reply
So there it is, I'm going in alone. My friend who essentially caused all of this is no help in terms of being a character witness or any of that. One of the free opinions I got directed me to find copies of the "Copy of Discovery" or essentially the Police Report to the State Attorney, which could give me information to cross-examine the officer with, if he even shows up to the court date. Part of me definitely hopes this isn't worth his time to even show up, but part of me realizes it's unrealistic to count on that.

If he does show up, I'll have to argue: a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights, the idea that all of the paraphernalia he assumed was for marijuana was for tobacco and so he did not have grounds for reasonable suspicion, rendering his "evidence" illegally obtained. (Walker vs. State of Florida states While a law enforcement officer may temporarily detain a person for investigation under circumstances reasonably indicating that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime, the detention cannot be based upon mere suspicion of criminal activity. To justify temporary detention, the officer must have a “founded suspicion” based upon factual observations in light of his knowledge and experience. Mere suspicion, on the other hand, is no better than random selection, sheer guesswork, or hunch. The state has failed to prove the third element of the plain view doctrine – “immediately apparent that the object is evidence of a crime.” The mere observation of a portion of pipe, without more, cannot constitute probable cause because it could be a tobacco pipe or other lawful object. Another pipe in plain view case standing for the notion that “we do not find the pipe alone could constitute probable cause to arrest for possession of paraphernalia. Because pipes are used to smoke materials other than drugs, they are not contraband per se.” Seizure of a weapon or other evidence of a criminal offense found during the search is permissible only if the officer reasonably believes that the object sought to be seized is a weapon. A search may not be validated by what it produces.) Or the logic behind arresting me for tobacco products. Or I could pussy out and just change my mind back to the "no contest" and keep the charge on my record, which is essentially what I'm trying to avoid.

Well, I suppose that's enough word vomit for one day. It feels better to just get all your thoughts in one place. Tell me what you think, without passing judgement and what I did wrong and how I could have done it differently. I can't change it now, I just have to go forward from here. Thanks! :)
Graham Gammlewill - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:23:17 EST 8pfWhsyK No.46056 Reply
dress nice, with long sleeve shirt and tie. act respectful.
Dextrolord - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 20:32:34 EST UvVhSC/Y No.46058 Reply
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Didn't really read your whole post tbh.. but I got snagged last July car hopping and my sentencing isn't until late March so it could drag on awhile.

As for my arraignment a few days after Xmas, idk what I was on, probly h or xans cuz I remember next to nothing besides a few yes, your honors and my lawyer saying I did very well.

So basically just dress nice, be VERY respectful to the judge, and know what you're gonna say beforehand. And it should all go fine, just fine

Prisoner's Rights Laws & Helping Get An Inmate Out Of Prison

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- Thu, 07 Dec 2017 22:25:24 EST tmEt2bf3 No.45988
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family worried about an inmate who is being raped, beaten, and threatened with death by other inmates. the financial support of this inmate is also being taken advantage of by these inmates.

can prisoner's rights law help with this kind of situation? it seems that inmates have rights to be free from sexual abuse whether they're inmates or staff. can anything be done to help get them out of prison sooner? they are close to being released but that could be a year or two and this person has been in long enough and they seem to be doing better, as they have gotten their GED and furthered their education even beyond that.

a few people I talked to said one thing or another, but some info was helpful that might be relevant in this context. One person said keep calling many different places, and another said to look for a pro bono lawyer. is any of this useful? thanks.
Eugene Popperford - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:27:10 EST VDw2Ex8H No.45989 Reply
typical lawyer answer: it depends/it's complicated.

Are there circumstances where you can recover on a civil rights suit for an inmate who is being raped, yes. Is every inmate getting raped going to be able to recover, not even close. Most probably can't.

and notice I said recover, as in money damages. getting raped isn't going to get you out of jail quicker.

Also it's pretty unlikely you need anyone who would take this pro-bono. You need to get a civil rights lawyer and get a consult. They can explain in greater detail why the inmate is probably SOL. If they do take the case they will do it on contingency and take their fees out of the damages (civil rights suits have automatic attorney's fees awarded).

Good luck.
Martha Gimblederk - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 02:33:18 EST DOOcZF46 No.46055 Reply
I can make a call to prison for a fee and tell them what is up. Also can set up moral reparaitions before being released if needed.

Just wondering..

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- Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:59:53 EST XBKVnpb3 No.46049
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I'm moving from Virginia into the District of Columbia. As I understand, here in Virginia, if you break into my house, I can legally use deadly force to defend myself. I can also own pretty much any gun I want without a license and openly carry said gun in most jurisdictions, with the exception of some higher capacity rifles.

now, in DC, I can't open-carry anything or own short-barrelled shotguns, semi-automatic guns, magazines with more than ten-round capacity, and everything needs to licensed with the MPD (50$, tack on another 150$ if it's a handgun) AND I need to complete a 3 hour training course to register anything. Another 18 hour course with a portion at the range with an mpd-licensed instructor to conceal-carry a handgun.

Which is fine, I'm not particularly fussed about jumping through hoops to keep a shotgun in my apartment. If I wanted to sell it or trade it or whatever, I can drive into Virginia and do whatever I want with it.

What I'm having trouble finding is information on defending yourself with the gun--specifically, if somebody breaks in (which happens in DC often enough), do I have the right to use deadly force to defend myself? If I'm on the street, it looks like I've got the 'duty to retreat' but its less clear what happens if I'm in my apartment and a crackhead with a knife or a gun from VA gets in. Anybody have any insight?
Nigel Henningville - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:44:33 EST kaMhjWeW No.46050 Reply
I think you're looking for either a castle doctrine or a duty to retreat. DC has neither. You can't claim self-defense if you start shit or to protect property, but if you have a reasonable belief that you are in imminent physical danger you can respond with whatever force is necessary. A jury will ultimately decide whether your actions are reasonable.

Room mate is lying about having paid energy bills, what to do?

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- Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:20:15 EST o65TBgRa No.46006
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Hey /LAW/ I was hoping you can give me some insight about what are my options here. This is kind of a stressful situation for me and I really just need to vent a bit before I can figure out how to proceed. First and foremost I am dealing with a good friend who happens to be my house mate, and I really would like to find a way to resolve this without ruining our friendship.

We are in a unique living situation, where the house is actually owned by the company which employs us both, so we do not have to pay rent or internet, but we are responsible for paying the energy bills. The energy bills for the house we live in are all in my name (I lived in the house for a while before he moved in), and I so pay the bills in full, and he is supposed to pay me half. (Lol great situation, I'm fucked now right?)

Basically I believe that he is lying to me flat-out, as he is saying that he already paid his share (to me, in cash) when in fact he never did. I have several pieces of evidence as to why I know he is lying, but the problem is that I have been kind of unreliable insofar as telling him what he owes me in a timely manner. I never sent him a text message or email in the moment to confirm I just paid a bill, or anything like that. It has always been just like I'd knock on his door when he is around and say "hey, I just paid the bill, it was XX this month" and he's given me his share cash either right away or a day or two later, and it was no big deal.

But one time a few months ago, I brought it up to him that he owed me, and he claimed to have already paid, but I was skeptical and had no recollection of it, but didn't want to fight about it and it was a very inexpensive bill during the summer, so I let it slide. A few weeks prior to this happening, we had a long discussion about my cannabis usage and its apparent effects on my memory. So after we had that discussion, I changed my cannabis usage habits, and further made a deliberate point to make notes on my phone of specific details like how much the bills were for, and if he'd paid me yet.

So I paid another bill yesterday and just went to go inform him about it today, and also to remind him about the previous bills he owes (3 months now). He says that he paid me for the first 2 months a few weeks ago, which I do not have any recollection of, and there isn't a note of it on my phone, so I am initially suspicious.

He claims to have paid me while I was in the middle of packing for a road trip that I took at the end of the last month. I do not believe he paid me on this day because, aside from the obvious fact that I do not recall it or have any notes, I do have a record of the fact that I stopped at an ATM when I left for my trip, because I only had like 2 dollars in my wallet when I left, and figured I should have cash on the road. If he had paid me cash while I was packing for the trip, I would not have needed to stop at an ATM.

Furthermore, there is the fact that on the day he claims to have paid me, I had just paid another bill the day before (which I forgot to tell him about, because he was out of the house when I paid it). If he had really paid me as he claims to have, I obviously would have mentioned it to him that there was another bill at that time, but I did not, because this encounter never took place.

This is really only a matter of $250 or so, and I'm not trying to be Scrooge here. But I can't stand the fact that it seems plainly obvious that he is lying and thinks he can take advantage of me, and that just pisses me off. I don't want to take him to small claims court or any crap like that. If money is tight because he is spending a ton going out all the time with his girlfriend, it's not my problem, but honestly I don't even mind if he wants to hold off on paying for a few months and pay me when he can, it's not like I'm going to charge interest or any shit like that - it's just if he really is lying to me flat out, then there is really not much I can do with regards to trusting him. So yeah, this shit is raising my blood pressure.

Any ideas or suggestions are appreciated.

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Phineas Crigglebury - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 00:12:39 EST Gxd27+aE No.46007 Reply
The legal situation is that it's your word against his. Good luck with that. The life skills situation is that you need to learn how to be a functioning adult. If your system of keeping track of money isn't working, get a new system. If your memory is a problem, buy a box of envelopes so he can label his cash contributions.
Nicholas Weshnat - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 22:02:04 EST gKgf0FQX No.46022 Reply
Just take this one as a loss and from now on only tell him about the bills through text

Police holding property without pressing charges

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- Wed, 01 Nov 2017 18:51:32 EST M8NCHKvj No.45955
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How long can police hold property as "evidence" without ever filing charges?

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Nathaniel Cheblingsut - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 19:48:07 EST 0+Kp5gpo No.45958 Reply
Civil forfeiture involves a written notice of forfeiture. Seized property as evidence is a totally different thing. In practical terms, police will sit on the evidence until you ask for it back, a judge forces them to release it, or the law says they can sell it.
Betsy Cripperbere - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:12:11 EST 5YM97a/6 No.45969 Reply
Have t find out how to get it back. Some states can take whatever and difficult o not possible to get back without a lot of foot work. As well never get it back. A gentleman
in Colorado got his weed back after quite a long time, judge, higher court ruled it
be released back to him.
Rebecca Werringledge - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:30:18 EST f/8heROi No.45993 Reply
you could call the department and ask, or get a lawyer to help you file a civil case, or do it on your own, or forget about it.

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