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Drug test for expungement?

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- Mon, 04 Jul 2016 02:14:31 EST mVLF81Ci No.45418
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So long story short, a few years ago (3 to be exact) I was arrested for possession of some molly. Fortunately they never followed up on my case so I technically never got convicted of anything. I didn't even have to step in court a single time for an arraignment or anything. My lawyer says that at this point it's safe to say I'm in the clear and that we should begin the expungement process relatively soon to get rid of my arrest record.

So the question is: Will I have to take a drug test during the expungement process since my arrest was drug related?
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Fuck Hurrychore - Thu, 07 Jul 2016 21:18:03 EST 8Irkql7o No.45427 Reply
as well as asking your lawyer, your county clerk of court website will have all of the basic information on the expungement process as well as required documents, probably printable, to begin the process. mostly it's a few more fees to pay and lots and lots of paperwork. i am still undergoing the expungement application of some drug related charges, but it is after i successfully completed a pti program that involved drug tests, but no mention has been made of a one last final drug test for the sake of the expungement.
Shit Hengerneck - Mon, 11 Jul 2016 02:09:01 EST jDU1yOXn No.45430 Reply
Not likely in any way, it is irrelevant. Your court clerk is general you friend.

Expenses, you should be able to do this on your own. I would call it $120 tops to do this.

Ok there is NCIC criminal database, a cop could see this. If it it there you best intests would get this removed. However, .gov agencies can see this, even though you made the motiobs to delete the mishap. Employers would not see this, however, .gov jobs can see this. In your best interests you can do this, if one suspects a nark,, you could reveal the identity.

See, as if this did not go through, possibly you have no record.
Augustus Murdbanks - Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:28:43 EST ZBt7N0X/ No.45443 Reply
Expungement laws are very, very State-specific. You'd have to talk to someone familiar with expungements in your State.
In most jurisdictions, you need to have a certain disposition in order to expunge. It's not really clear what happened in your case. Were you actually charged or just arrested? If you were charged and you never went to court, what happened in court? You said you didn't appear in court, but did an attorney appear on your behalf? If not, there may not be a final disposition in your matter. That means it's unlikely you'll be able to expunge anything. You may even have a bench warrant if you didn't show up to court.

I have never heard of anyone anywhere having to take a drug test in order to expunge your record. You're usually just entitled to an expungement as a matter of law. Sometimes, if you're not entitled, you may petition the court to consider expunging it anyway.

Is it legal to offer nonsexual cuddling in exchange for money on craigslist?

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- Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:54:32 EST 1J45w1uH No.45433
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I figure there's got to be someone in my city willing to pay $20 for an hour of cuddling.

Will asshole cops try to "bust" me?
Albert Bocklepedge - Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:23:09 EST aAHWgRbL No.45434 Reply
>Will asshole cops try to "bust" me?

For prostitution? Probably, but if you make it unambiguously clear from the outset that inappropriate touching is not allowed I think you would be fine. It's very likely that there are other laws you could run afoul of though such as business license requirements, massage ordinances, things like that. Millions of people operate illegal businesses every day without incident and only get busted when someone complains to the right person so asking yourself what are people going to see and who is going to care is the pragmatic way forward.
Phyllis Nettinglock - Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:33:57 EST 1J45w1uH No.45435 Reply
Thanks for the advice. I hit another roadblock though.

For anyone who cares, you have to pay $10 to sell "therapeutic" services on craigslist now. That pretty much destroys my whole business model lol

Is it legal to reprogram someone to make them gay for being hetero?

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- Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:40:40 EST ghTpNazU No.45406
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I know it's not, I'm just debating the topic.

Also, is it legal to attempt to reprogram someone with soundwaves and to reprogram someone in general & to try to make someone stop existing via reprogramming?
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Apartment flip flop

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- Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:05:26 EST j6cYZyBb No.45409
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2 Years ago our apartments explicitly allowed window unit air conditioners, and installed it for us. Out of nowhere (though in May, the cusp of summer transitioning) they've turned the tables and banned window units. It is now required to be the portable variety of ac unit if at all.

Is there anyway they can at least
1.)Reimburse the cost of the AC unit they initially approved
2.)Leave them in charge of selling the ac unit. etc. My roommates dont have time to jive with strange craigslist people
Henry Buckleman - Thu, 07 Jul 2016 05:05:35 EST XwdBa0wD No.45426 Reply
Depends on your state. Most states they have to give notice of rule changes. You could always argue you need it for health reasons and the portable ones that would be safe for you ( large intake , exhaust vents ) are exorbitant. And the ada requires they make reasonable accommodation for you. That usually makes them behave.

Is it legal to force a polygraph without consent

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- Mon, 04 Jul 2016 16:57:15 EST ghTpNazU No.45421
File: 1467665835691.png -(1771B / 1.73KB, 168x77) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is it legal to force a polygraph without consent
Albert Cindertet - Mon, 04 Jul 2016 17:40:55 EST ghTpNazU No.45422 Reply
Also, is drug induced amnesia legal without consent?
Jack Blunnershit - Mon, 04 Jul 2016 18:01:35 EST wsVd8Jmm No.45423 Reply
Yes and they're coming to give you a polygraph RIGHT NOW.

GPS Monitoring Bracelet is not holding a charge - am I going to jail?

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- Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:02:54 EST zVxUE9HR No.45399
File: 1466805774768.png -(299228B / 292.21KB, 460x516) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. GPS Monitoring Bracelet is not holding a charge - am I going to jail?
So, I was released on parole in October. Part of my conditions of parole was wearing an ankle bracelet GPS monitor for one year. I have to keep it charged regularly, and I also have a curfew from 12 AM to 6 AM.

Anyways, I was issued a new bracelet about a month and a half ago. This one seems to be having trouble holding a charge. I went and saw my PO last Tuesday (I have to see him every week) and he made me stay for 3 hours in his office because I let my charge get "low" (it was at 66%) as 'punishment'. He then threatened to take me to jail if it ever happened again.

Well, I charged my bracelet for 1 hour last night, and one hour today around 12:00 PM. I left to run some errands for 3 hours and when I come back, the monitoring facility had called and said that my bracelet was low. Now, these things are only supposed to be charged for 2 hours in 24 hours maximum. So obviously, something is wrong.

What I'm wondering is, do you think I will go to jail this Tuesday? I have reported every single week, on time, since October. I have never failed a drug test. And, I always pay my fees on time. I have no outstanding crimes and I have not been arrested since I was put on parole. I also have had steady employment and/or been enrolled in school. Do you guys know just how far his power is, legally, considering that I am otherwise a perfect parolee? I would like to think that I can't be violated completely since I have committed no crimes, but I want to know.

For the worse case scenario, I have informed my lawyer as well as a few upstanding people in my community in case this guy tries to be on some complete bullshit. He lets the black guys get away with breaking curfew, coming up hot on drug tests, and other stupid shit, but he's always bitching at the very few white guys in our group because of completely inane shit.

Thanks in advance.
Charles Lightham - Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:16:12 EST xpMdweAa No.45400 Reply
im on an ankle monitor as well but mind responds to a base station hooked up to the internet. home confinement is meh.

anyways, if my braclet was having issues id be contacting my PO and informing themi think the things broke and could you have someone look at it for me.
Henry Crandersut - Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:44:44 EST zVxUE9HR No.45402 Reply
Well, that's the NORMAL thing to do. Except, the problem is, to them, it is NEVER the equipment's fault. It's always "THERE AINT NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BRACELET, YOU JUST GON' DO WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT, HUH? I GOT SOMETHING FOR YO ASS" or another variation thereof.

You, LITERALLY, cannot talk like a civilized human being with the POs in this county. They are some of the rudest, power-tripping assholes I have ever met. If my PO could act like a sensible, logical person without dehumanizing me every other word, then I'd simply call him and let him know the issue. I'm still going to, tomorrow morning, but it will be futile.

Drug Tests Without Consent

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- Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:26:11 EST 2ZcpADGo No.45391
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My dad's girlfriend has a terminal brain tumor. She went in to get some blood work done the other day, and they tested her without consent for the DEVIL'S LETTUCE. After it came back positive, she was harassed to the point of breaking down and crying by some Indian doctor who asserted that she is taking illegal medication for her cancer (she's also on some drugs that are believed to cure cancer, and are thus banned in most of the USA). The doctor called back the next day and apologized, presumably for being a brainwashed shill that would rather her pop benzos and opiates instead of vaping weed (no secret that pharma money rules medicine)

My question is, is there any recourse against what this clearly unethical violation of patient autonomy and our constitutional right against unwarranted searches? pic unrelated
Sophie Worthingridge - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:26:11 EST dzfqUCZS No.45392 Reply
>My question is, is there any recourse against what this clearly unethical violation of patient autonomy
It's very likely that she gave blanket consent for the doctor to do harmless things that he thinks might be medically justified, basically permission to do his job. If she complained of things that could be the side effect of recreational drug use or self-medication then he wouldn't necessarily be expected to tell her that a drug panel would be included as part of the blood test. Now where she could sue the shit out of him is if the results of that drug test were ever disclosed.

>and our constitutional right against unwarranted searches?
What's it like being this dumb?
Fanny Dimblebury - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:38:33 EST JgrhRLWY No.45393 Reply
>she could sue the shit out of him is if the results of that drug test were ever disclosed.

Actually probably not. HIPAA does not contain a private right of action. The doctor can held over the coals by HHS, but you're not seeing a dime of it. There have been some examples lately of negligence cases or IIED cases actually working, but they are the exception, not the rule. In this case, with what the disclosures would be I don't see a colorable civil claim.

HHS-OCR would love to take the doctor's money though if there is a disclosure.
Cyril Murdville - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:28:08 EST sq7MN2u4 No.45395 Reply
>tested her without consent
Doubtful, there's a reason they have you sign a shit ton of paperwork before they start treating you for shit, it gives them the right to do their job without getting a signature for every individual thing. Did she retain a copy or even read the forms before signing?
>constitutional right against unwarranted searches
Lol wut? Is she being treated for cancer by a police officer? That would probably be inadvisable.

Interest in Becoming a Lawyer

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- Mon, 20 Jun 2016 20:23:30 EST kIsLJieI No.45385
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Hello. I'm 32 and I have interest in becoming a lawyer, or at least some professional in that field.

My reasons for why? Right now, I'm suspecting that my father is selling family possessions and property that me and my siblings would otherwise inherit to support solely himself, and has given almost all of my dead mother's possessions away to a girlfriend who moved in with him after only knowing him for four months. She even sold her house.

He promised my mother that he'd never remarry, and he all of this and now he is going to.

While I know that not a lot can be done in my own personal case, I still have gained a sense of selfless duty for humanity (one that I would otherwise never have) and I want to make to make sure that it much, much harder for surviving parents to cannibalize the family and the resources of the children just so that they can be solely secure and content.

I know that it can't be perfect, but I can at least improve the lot for some people. I do not want anyone to go through what I went through, ever. Even if I'm wrong about what my father might do, I still want to make sure that it can't happen to others. I've already experienced enough as is.

So, is it worth being a lawyer these days? Do I need to be a lawyer for what I want to do? I do have the interest and the selfless motivation.
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Cedric Crushbanks - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 01:13:29 EST kIsLJieI No.45387 Reply
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Well, having my mother's car, computers, and anything else of value that she had being just given to the girlfriend is suspicious, if not downright shallow. I told my friends and my therapist about the car thing, and they all thought it was a bit strange and heartless of my father.

Also the fact that all of my mother's pictures have been taken down, and anything else that wasn't of value has "disappeared" and likely thrown away; I actually have a book that I recused from the recycling bin of my town that has my mother's handwriting in it, and I know that it is her book because both her and my father talked about it (he actually showed me the book after the death, when he was still lonely).

There is also the share of the family cabin that my grandfather built that my father sold for no reason, and didn't talk to us about it. Not to mention that I think that he is selling a plot that was inherited to him that belongs to a family farm, established in the 1870s.

It has nothing to do with me. I don't want most of that shit. My siblings could use that, though. My father was a general surgeon, and look at his three kids: I'm on SSI, my brother is working in some factory and isn't even salaried, and while my sister is relatively well off, she entirely depends on her fiance (who she isn't married to, even after seven years) for financial support due to his risky entrepreneurship.

He told a year ago, out of the blue, with perfect calmness, that he didn't feel bad about whatever I accuse him of, because despite what mistakes he made, he did what was best. I talk to people about what my father did, and at first they support him, but when I tell them that part, they no longer do.

I am not entitled. I just want it so that when one parent dies, the surviving parent does not just take everything and then give it to some stranger he never even knew existed before the death, and squander most of the rest on himself.

He wants to take a whole trip by sailboat down the coast of Mexico with his girlfriend. He bought a used sailboat, takes monthly trips to the boat by car (we both in Idaho, so it is a long way), and is fixing up the boat. Not only is that extremely expensive, but it is fucking stupid. There is at least a 50% chance that they are both going to die on that trip, because it is so fucking unsafe. And where is he getting that money?

I do not really want his wealth. I just want my mother's stuff, and to keep family possessions in the family. And if not, what of it? He is not entitled for me to make sacrifices for him and to be left with nothing when it could be otherwise, like I'm his parent, and he's just a little baby. It is sick.

I could go on about how I slaved away from him for free, or how he wanted to take my money away from me when I was working myself to the bone and he was barely working at all at a cushy job not even two weeks after my mother died, or how he medically neglected me and my siblings when we were sick even though he was a doctor, and didn't take us to the hospital like any sane parent in order to "save money", but I won't. I didn't expect you to know that, but don't ever say those things again to either me or anyone else in my position. You don't have a clue how traumatic it is, for you've never been in my situation.
Caroline Bazzleson - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:37:46 EST xpMdweAa No.45388 Reply
why not go have a conversation with your father.

bro peopel morn in differnt ways. nothing illegal about it.
Graham Chushhitch - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:59:14 EST QyqGq4gQ No.45389 Reply
I don't actually see why you want to be a lawyer. If all you're bringing to the table is a sense of wanting to help people you're going to have a rough time.

Something should be done.

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- Fri, 10 Jun 2016 00:08:30 EST Bgrk6lJA No.45364
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Im going to try to make this short and simple, im desperate to know if anything can be done for him and his situation.
Most recently my boyfriend was attempting to come to America from Australia to visit for holiday. He had sorted out his passport, ticket, and had all the documents he needed to enter America... From SYD he had one connecting flight to LAX, then was suppost to board a plane to his destination, NC. Upon arriving to LAX everything was going smoothly until he had to go through customs and deal with Homeland Security... He has epilepsy, whilst going through he began to have a seizure. He hadn't had a fit in a very long time, I suppose he may have been nervous and very excited to finally be in the US to meet me. Anyway, he was attacked by 12 homeland security officers while he was having his fit. They shoved him against a wall injuring his jaw. They were shouting at him while they were almost breaking his arms behind his back. They kept saying he was resisting when he obviously can't help what he does when he seizes. They took him into an interview room where he finally came to after blacking out. They questioned him and treated him like a terrorist. His bags were searched, of course they found nothing. He provided his medical documents to prove he's epileptic, but they didn't seem to care. The paramedics arrived 2 hours after the fact, he didn't need them at this point. He sat in cuffs for 3 hours before he was informed that he was being deported back to Australia on the next available flight. We later found out that they had prematurely canceled his ticket to NC before even interviewing him and finding out what was going on. Plus, they also voided his passport to be able to come to America for no reason. I feel they didn't want to admit that they were in the wrong and they were on some sort of power trip.
He remained in the interview room for more than 10 hours. No food or water was offered, his phone was taken but was aloud one phone call. He called me to tell me the news, we were both very heartbroken. We want justice. But unfortunately I've been told that there probably isn't anything that can be done. Help?
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Sophie Clirrydane - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 08:33:34 EST jl36zHSQ No.45372 Reply
You should have your boyfriend call constitutional tort litigators in the Los Angeles area (I'm sure there are plenty of them) to see if there is potentially what's known as a Bivens claim.

I can't tell you if you have one because it's very fact specific and Bivens is complicated, but it's worth a consult.
Matilda Gedgebare - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:59:04 EST OmyXdLKz No.45381 Reply
sounds like they just wanted to intimidate him. Did he do anything that would piss off the feds?

Isn't this shit illegal?

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- Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:59:13 EST guPIq1Wl No.45167
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I called the cops because my crazy ass ex girlfriend broke into my house while I was gone and stole my cash and my medication. Cops came to my door, I tell them situation, they don't do shit about it but follow me inside anyway when they didn't ask if they could come inside and I didn't invite them. Then one of them says he thinks it smells like weed in there, and that they have cause to search my house. Wtf?? Of course he finds my weed and pipes, and I get charged with possession of marijuana & paraphernalia.

What the fuck man, I called the cops because I'm a victim of a fucking crime, and they decide they can make up a probable cause and do a random ass search for whatever they want in my house? Fucking bullshit this has to be illegal. Please tell me I can get a lawyer for this shit.
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Hamilton Cheshlock - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:57:35 EST ghTpNazU No.45363 Reply
What if you tell them they're not allowed here when they're here for a house visit? They say shit like that and they don't leave when there's no reason for them to be here and they ADMIT they aren't there for a reason.
Emma Dartfuck - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:18:11 EST OCGBuS5C No.45368 Reply
Civil rights attorney..4th ammendment. Unless you were on probation or parole with a plea bargain from pleaing Guilty/No Contest and those were your terms. Can vary state to state
Fanny Duckleham - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 17:15:23 EST lc24Wo5+ No.45371 Reply
the cops were investigating a crime. they needed proof or to at least see how the bitch broke into your house.

Yall niggas dumb as fuck

hiding weed

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- Fri, 10 Jun 2016 18:12:27 EST ay3CxQLj No.45366
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oi! i need some advice for hiding my weed when i'm outside. could you guys give me some sneaky ideas?
Fanny Duckleham - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:56:24 EST lc24Wo5+ No.45367 Reply
dont smoke out side if you dont want to get arrested.
Matilda Gedgebare - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:00:18 EST OmyXdLKz No.45382 Reply
Keep it in your portable vape if you have one. Must people think they're E-cigs

Not sure how to feel..

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- Mon, 30 May 2016 16:18:58 EST 7PYwrzDV No.45349
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Not really sure where to put this so if this isn't the right place I apologize.

So I visited a friend recently that I hadn't seen in about a year. We catch up over the weekend over at his place and I saw that he had a macbook pro, which is new as he's never had one before. So I ask him when he got it and he tells me that he stole it from an administrator's closet at the local public college (not community) when he was exploring one of their departments and noticed that one of the administrator's closets wasn't locked.

Now this irks me because I know that generally art departments are one of the most underfunded departments at schools so he potentially fucked over some teacher's shit. His argument was that a.) it was probably quickly replaced because it's a liberal arts school so there's probably more priority for their arts than at other colleges, and b.) it's likely that liability was probably in the hands of the school's administration since it was an administrator's closet so they would've probably had to replace it quickly since that closet was the administration's jurisdiction, therefore no loss of funding and things carry along probably just fine.

How sound is this logic? Something just doesn't feel right to me about it but since I'm personally not a fan of tuition and debt and generally just the way educational institutions function I'm not necessarily against the idea of stealing from for-profit colleges, but I'm also not down for fucking over underfunded art departments. Anybody work at a college that could give insight into the ethics of this sort of situation?
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Shit Dumblemet - Thu, 02 Jun 2016 06:43:37 EST JgrhRLWY No.45359 Reply
>public college
>for profit college

So which is it?
Jarvis Lightdock - Thu, 02 Jun 2016 21:26:54 EST JLUOneXB No.45360 Reply

whoops not-for-profit public school. but still.

Clonazolam and Etizolam drug test

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- Wed, 18 May 2016 17:04:22 EST a/qH4zj+ No.45327
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Well I think I fucked myself. I did not think these would show up on a drug test, and I also didn't think the job would go for a 10 panel test, since it's for a shitty warehouse that hires felons and basically people who are hobos.

I went to the hospital or clinic, got tested, and tested positive for Benzos. I DID tell the hiring lady that I had a rX for Benzos from my Dr. (I used to, but not anymore, and I doubt the Dr, would mention that).

I've heard that you can "request it be sent to the lab" for further analysis, and it usually comes back as a false positive. However, would I have had to do that at the clinic? Is it too late? If the hiring lady calls back, can I say I want it to be reevaluated at "the lab", claiming I'm taking Phenibut and GABA to quell my anxiety?

What do? Or did I just fuck myself?
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William Clazzleway - Sun, 22 May 2016 12:10:40 EST tJcLzVQ3 No.45335 Reply
Also, assuming you acquired pills on the black market, they don't always contain what they are claimed to.
Ebenezer Sandleridge - Wed, 25 May 2016 03:02:00 EST Q+eYDGG0 No.45342 Reply
Quick thought, how long ago was the script for? Likke use before date?
Aside, I bet one could say just took whatever for whatever, no big deal.
Will you hire me or not. Will do the job correctly.
Priscilla Goodwill - Sun, 29 May 2016 20:38:24 EST wTpxxe7q No.45348 Reply
if it's within a year of the script, 'use before date,' do try to leave it at that. If script states for anxiety, sleep, better chance than digging in further with a lab test in my opinion which could show illegally obtaining a benzo. Surely Clonazolam is scheduled by now?

Where does the money from a refund originate on a credit card billing dispute

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- Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:54:13 EST c9lBFWvg No.44709
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Hey guys. I have a question about where the money from a refund originates - On the winning side of a billing dispute on a charge listed on my account with my credit card company.

I disputed a charge on my account, through my credit card company. They told me I won, and they sided with me. They refunded the amount back onto my account.

My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant? Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

Or does the credit card company simply give me a refund out of their own pocket as a courtesy for being a customer?

I have always wondered this.
Basil Fegglecocke - Thu, 19 May 2016 07:37:29 EST f8Fs6quN No.45329 Reply
Nowhere, there is no money. Just numbers on paper/screens. They either increase the numbers on your bank statement or decrease the numbers on your bill. They do eventually force the merchants to "pay" them, which is why ghetto liquor stores only take debit for alcohol, but this is just in the form of taking the sum out of the next bank transfer to them. If the dispute refund is instant(ish), then it does initially come out of the credit card company's account, else they squeeze the merchant for it first which is increasingly common due to abuse.
Angus Hubberbanks - Thu, 26 May 2016 23:44:44 EST tyqJISl8 No.45346 Reply
>My question is, did the credit card company really take back the money from the merchant?


>Do they have that kind of power to simply reverse a charge whenever they want to? So that the merchant loses the money?

yes the merchant lost those moneys

card companies like american express will ALWAYS side with the card holder

I work at a hotel and we never require signatures at all when guests check in, because of this anyone can charge back on their credit card and claim they didn't stay here.

if you sign something at a retail store and charge back you might have a lawsuit incoming from the place you charged back from if your signature is there

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