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none of you are lawyers face it

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- Thu, 07 Jan 2016 00:16:41 EST ORTlGTgk No.44983
File: 1452143801948.jpg -(71959B / 70.27KB, 640x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. none of you are lawyers face it
you're all the Charile Kellys of the world
>hur dur I know law

Don't listen to any one ever
Nigger Bunridge - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 10:47:18 EST uLJPOHRz No.44986 Reply
Third year law student. Not a lawyer, but certainly a step up from charlie.

studying law

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- Wed, 09 Dec 2015 20:40:36 EST YLjaZSmH No.44885
File: 1449711636916.jpg -(38456B / 37.55KB, 517x469) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. studying law
Does /law/ have any actual lawyers or law students? I'm a history teacher who is considering a career change. And one option I'm weighing is going to law school. I'm not really sure what area I want to specialize in, though I know I don't want to do criminal law.

So is it worth it to go to law school? What's the best field to study not just for money but reliable employment? I'm just now starting to research it, since I'm far away from actually having to make a decision.
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George Feblingville - Wed, 06 Jan 2016 08:11:02 EST JgrhRLWY No.44966 Reply
I'm curious what you think I posted that was worth lying about. Also your jealously at what consider a pretty mediocre existence actually brightened my morning a little, so thanks for that.

ITT:Post Little Known Legal Gold From Around the World

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- Fri, 18 Dec 2015 15:14:07 EST mN2vV2+c No.44901
File: 1450469647907.jpg -(43909B / 42.88KB, 330x381) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. ITT:Post Little Known Legal Gold From Around the World

>Japan is a country so safe that it makes Canada look like Somalia. Its intentional homicide rate is around 0.3 per 100,000 people, far less than America’s 4.7. It has barely any terrorism. In 2013, only 12 people were shot to death, and even that paltry number was a massive increase. In 2012, the total number of shooting deaths was three. There are many complex reasons why Japan is a nonviolent society. One is that its police force is utterly terrifying.If you’re going to have a run-in with the law, pray it isn’t in Japan. Police have the right to hold you without charge for 23 days, and they’ll spend most of that time torturing you. Suspects have tables rammed into them, their feet stomped on, and threats bellowed into their ears. Sleep deprivation is common, and choosing to remain silent is taken as admission of guilt. The only way to stop this onslaught is to sign a confession, and good luck retracting it later. Courts assume that a confession is an admission of guilt and will sentence you accordingly. People frequently go down for decades for crimes they clearly didn’t commit. It’s estimated that one-tenth of all Japanese prisoners are in jail due to false confessions, and the government has no interest in reopening their cases.
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Edwin Pandermat - Sat, 19 Dec 2015 01:12:10 EST ZwixIBj1 No.44904 Reply

Now I know where to go when I decide to go on my killing spree. Thanks /law/.
Graham Doshkork - Sat, 19 Dec 2015 04:28:59 EST U23++ADK No.44905 Reply
A lot of it is political. Get a new mayor, clean up the streets, tough on crime.
Police will arrest people they know did not commit a crime and say, look,
we got the person. Cops will lie and people will know or should not the lies are their, the evidence is fabricated or embellished. Prosecution, the legal system
is in general is theatrics.
Emma Goodridge - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:53:48 EST ORTlGTgk No.44960 Reply
Hush I'm speaking for you

"Leave my brother out of this"

love letters, packages, and jail

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- Sun, 27 Dec 2015 17:33:13 EST P2gPmFM0 No.44912
File: 1451255593828.jpg -(63951B / 62.45KB, 1280x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. love letters, packages, and jail
Alright, i don't know if this is against the rules, but i am freaking out a little and need some guidance.

Long story short, i ordered something from a darknet vendor. Left home, came back after a week, and there are two "failed to deliver" slips.

One may be from my vendor and i am currently checking that, the other one comes from my country and the city it comes from may or may not be affiliated with customs, but i have no way to tell.

Receiving one slip could have been already a red flag, but two (when i am not expecting anything else even from clearnet or friends) is sending me huge honeypot alerts.

Picking the package sounds like a no-no, especially because of the second letter. What are the possible consequences if it does end up being a trap? Should i just ignore the packages altogether? Just pick up the unknown letter? I haven't been raided or otherwise been contacted by LE in any way but i do not like this situation at all.

Anything i should do to keep my ass out of trouble? Any input at all is appreciated, really. I am very freaked out right now, so sorry if it's not my best text or has already been covered hundreds of times. Thank you.
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Emma Wallerserk - Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:10:42 EST yIrlJYPg No.44919 Reply

If what you had sent to you is that illegal and you feel that paranoid then Id go with my gut and cut my losses.

Thats my personal opinion.
Jack Sendlewire - Wed, 06 Jan 2016 19:43:55 EST 1GxMrzFe No.44971 Reply

Then why the fuck are you asking for advice, you dumb fuck.

Facing a demon from my past

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- Sat, 12 Dec 2015 11:52:57 EST j5EeZBIw No.44894
File: 1449939177471.jpg -(21110B / 20.62KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Facing a demon from my past
In 2013 I was arrested for manufacturing meth and disposal of hazardous waste. I spent 4 months in jail on 100,000 bond and four months later it was dropped to 20,000. Bonded out, went to rehab, got a job and turned it around.

I have court monday for the charges. They are dropping one, and recomennding probation on the other. My question is, I relapsed and smoked weed for a few months this year. It's still in my system. Could this potentially be really bad for me monday? Can they drug test in court? It's general sessions court, and I am in SC if that helps.
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Phoebe Billingdale - Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:49:49 EST U23++ADK No.44900 Reply
Yea, it's OK to be open with some thought of what the possible good or bad could
come out of it.

Here's a story, a friend/associate said he was joining the military, ready to go and become productive when he was facing possible a long time in jail. The judge said OK, good luck to you and you are making a good decision, case closed. No probation, jail time

A month or whatever layer he was back in jail again. The same judge, same type of charges, Judge was red in the face, YOU, No leniency was given.

well keep on keeping on.
Hedda Blammlewater - Fri, 18 Dec 2015 18:46:29 EST j5EeZBIw No.44902 Reply

Thanks for the words of advice. I am having trouble with probation now. They had to trasnfer it to the current town I live in from the city it happened in and I reported when they told me and I wasn't in the system. Contacted the right people and was told to come monday. Same day another agent called and said that I didn't report the day I actually did. Said they'd issue a warrant if I didn't come Monday.

SHe called back like 5 minutes later and was like I spoke to the others and they said they were in contact with you just come Monday.

I was like what the fuck.. first a paperwork error then a communication error. This is going to be a fun 3 years.
Emma Goodridge - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:51:17 EST ORTlGTgk No.44958 Reply
I have to tell you that it's crazy illegal

>if you think it's legal

Your wrong, it's totally illegal

Posted this on /qq/ and they told me to come here

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2015 00:07:26 EST GnH0Bpwd No.44028
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Ok...in like october or november somebody VERY close to me got raided by some DEA agents.

They found 150 grams of MDMA and $6000 cash.

However, they didn't get arrested. Instead, a few weeks later, they got letters of what was found during the search. The letter says nothing about MDMA and only claims $5000 cash was found.

Now, it gets stranger. The return address on the envelope was not from a dea office (i don't even think theres any around here) but a random address. Going to it, theres a big mural of people of all different races and colors painted on it, no sign on the building, and a camera facing toward the door along with a card reader to get in.

Now they've speculated this entire time that these aren't DEA agents but some thugs who work for the DEA or something, that stole all of their drugs and some cash and only reported $5000 of "What they believe to be drug money" back to the feds.

And now months later their mail starts getting opened and seized. They (the people taking the mail) recently seized some stuff that was legal (it was just paper) and the people who live in the house believe that its being tested for LSD or something. It isn't, it was just a letter.

So whats gonna happen to these kids? I am in no way shape or form connected to their former business
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Fuck Hashcocke - Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:19:56 EST RxS+WccT No.44059 Reply
Any chance of getting that address so I can see if Google Earth can see it?
Lillian Duckson - Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:17:37 EST 0Eai6RPk No.44924 Reply
Ur bud got conspiracied.
Emma Goodridge - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:49:26 EST ORTlGTgk No.44957 Reply
O my god did you fucking idiots know you can juice a carrort and turn it into juice or carrot cake, that's how it is

Im Going to Jail (possibly)

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- Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:48:33 EST Vk2p35oc No.44702
File: 1445122113640.jpg -(18816B / 18.38KB, 640x510) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Im Going to Jail (possibly)
Two years ago I got in a persuit with the police out here in California (in a more conservative county). There were no injuries or accidents and I surrendered without incident.

Im being sentenced next week, the judge previously set a cap of no more than 270 days [which I will serve 50% of and I have 12 days credit] (hes an asshole). The probation office is taking their sweet ass time with their report.

Im hoping that my attorney can get it down 90 or 60 days. Heres the problem Im gay and femme Im pretty attractive but I can fight. So thats a concern of mine what should I do? What should I expect. Last time I was in that jail it wasnt terrible but still those fucks are dangerous
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Shit Wiffingforth - Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:59:55 EST Kd+sUt8p No.44908 Reply
It's better to allow 99 guilty men to walk free from their crime than to imprison one innocent man.
Angus Biddlesad - Sat, 26 Dec 2015 03:50:04 EST U23++ADK No.44909 Reply
Prosecution is success in the ladder of. Even the innocents. Knowing that one is innocent. Years later they find one guilty, but innocent.
Angus Biddlesad - Sat, 26 Dec 2015 03:57:38 EST U23++ADK No.44910 Reply
That is the way, I have seen where a prosecution should work, but a solid case
that is fabricated, is not a case at all.

Accounting Fraud/Enron general

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- Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:25:01 EST DENqVUuL No.44888
File: 1449807901178.jpg -(48027B / 46.90KB, 617x534) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Accounting Fraud/Enron general
Currently doing a research project on Enron & why accounting fraud never works. I've already done plenty of research, watched The Smartest Guys In The Room, etc. Apparently plenty of law schools use the collapse of Enron in their classes. So I was just wondering if /law/ had any extensive information on accounting fraud and why it never works (usually). It would be appreciated. Bonus: I live near Houston where the company was located, so talking to friends/family about Enron has been really easy.

>Accounting Fraud general thread
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Fanny Bliffingdun - Fri, 11 Dec 2015 01:53:27 EST FyPcY6k3 No.44890 Reply
because with accounting debits always have to equal credits in the end

and when it's bogged down with a bunch of phony transactions that make no sense at all people get suspicious, especially when its millions of dollars
Hannah Blackman - Fri, 11 Dec 2015 09:55:08 EST J8K1kZ8J No.44891 Reply
I don't think Enron would have been an issue for anyone if they hadn't shuttered immediately afterwards.

Letting the board pilfer the company is generally protected under the business judgment rule.

New to /LAW/

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- Wed, 02 Dec 2015 10:15:32 EST eQnGTXjW No.44874
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Hello all,

At around 4:00 A.M. EST, i was working at my local grocery store. I normally work day shift cashier. As of late i have been working "file maintenance", which is responsible for taking down and putting up new tags/signs. Only because they are short handed for the holidays. The night lead is a real company man, with twenty plus years under his belt. Lives, breaths, eats, shits, and sleeps for the company. He is in charge of the store overnight. Now, myself and a few others listen to music on this shift while working. Because it helps pass the time, and no music plays in the store during these early hours. I don't use headphones, but listen through my phone out loud. Not loud enough to really bother anyone. There i was minding my own business, when the night lead comes up. Starts harassing me about the music. Telling me, not asking, to turn it off. He became rather irate, when i didn't turn it off. Raising his voice to me, acting out like a child having a tantrum. Telling him that he was out of line, and needed to take it down a notch. I was being completely civil with him. I told him i was tired of him singling me out every opportunity he got, and to leave me alone( I am not the only one who does this, and he doesn't say a thing). He told me to leave, and I said no. He then called the cops on me! When they arrived i told them my side, and that this man was ridiculous. I was told either i leave, or i would be arrested for trespassing. I lost four and a half hours of work for listening to music. It was a sad turn of events. I left with a very salty taste in my mouth, and have since, called the Union, and some local labor firm of sorts. But, what i want to know, is there anything legal action that i can take? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Shitting Cillynene - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 09:50:01 EST qK1ZjfvE No.44878 Reply
Go ahead and apply for unemployment because I highly doubt you still have a job. And because you are the one who escalated the situation don't be surprised if your unemployment claim gets denied.
Emma Chunderbotch - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:20:12 EST ZwixIBj1 No.44880 Reply
>I don't use headphones, but listen through my phone out loud. Not loud enough to really bother anyone.

I guarantee you that this behavior is fucking annoying. No one else wants to hear your music. They really don't.

> is there anything legal action that i can take?

For what? Calling the cops on you when you wouldn't leave? What do you expect?
Barnaby Grandford - Sun, 06 Dec 2015 02:21:17 EST U23++ADK No.44881 Reply
>>I don't use headphones, but listen through my phone out loud. Not loud enough to really bother >>anyone.

>I guarantee you that this behavior is fucking annoying. No one else wants to hear your music.
>They really don't.

I walk through chain grocery stores and employees at times, 2 am whatever, few customers. People have their portable music and are working stocking shelves, inventory, etc. yes at the same time.

As well managers would allow whatever music over the stores system. No issues I would see whatever.

>> is there anything legal action that i can take?

>For what? Calling the cops on you when you wouldn't leave? What do you expect?

If there is a policy of no audible music by employees, or the like I guess I could see
if it were company policy sorry, a simple sorry (name) but you cannot listen to music,.
store policy But it sounds like that thing just came up like he was trying to crate an
issue, to purposely create a 'situation' where in turn he immediately called the police.

Think about this, nobody really likes to see unneeded conflict between employees
and so-called management, and even worse see police called because some
sniveling dickhead has some issues.

I can bet this management person is basically hated by most employees. likely even supervisors.
I would say this person made a bad decision by calling police and had to explain in a report of
his 'view' of the situation and his actions. (store policy ya know.) In turn the police would have to
fill out a report. All which would be reviewed. Give the police a break for petty 'nothing' situations.

Surely if police are called by said manager and if it as a large chain store is would take resources up the chain to look into why the police were called, at any chain store, restaurant, why he did so and if he had rational state-of-mind authority to send somebody off the job given the circumstances in the first place.
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Divorce Questions.

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- Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:19:20 EST Mqal8yYZ No.44864
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So about 2 months ago, a close friend of me and my future ex-wife passed away. I suppose in some weird impulsive response to grief me and her decided to get a courthouse wedding, just for the fuck of it.

Really awful idea, I know, but I guess we were trying to cope or something.

Anyways, We got married on the 15th of October. Things were going alright, we've been friends for several years now and she had already lived with me so it was a perfect adjustment. We had a small ceremony for kicks, got some cute rings and dresses and left it at that.

Anyways, about two weeks ago, she just randomly got a stick up her ass. We went from having a very pleasant evening the night before, and the next she was suddenly giving me the cold shoulder. Figured midterms were stressing her out or whatever, but it kept happening.

Out of the blue, I came home and most of her furniture and stuff was gone. Just vanished in the course of a couple hours. She's still refusing to talk to me. A couple days ago, she said she wants to hurry up and get a divorce. I suggested trying for an annulment but she's absolutely set on divorce for some reason. Saying it will be easier.

Today, a couple of guys let themselves into my place without warning with her key, and said they came for the rest of her things. They were incredibly short, and when I asked them if they had any idea why she was mad they refused to tell me. I got the impression they felt I knew what I did but was playing stupid.

Now I'm worried and scared about what she's told people, and the idea of getting divorced scares me now since as much as I want to be separated properly I'm afraid she might have some plan in motion to fuck me over somehow.

The major question being, do I need a Lawyer? Is there any way she can screw me over at this point. We both have a separate income, we've never taken in any debt mutually, obviously don't have kids or anything on the way. Ideally, I figure it'll be a "My stuff is mine, yours is yours." but I'm not sure what legal footwork can be done if I don't cover my bases.

This is in California, we're also both women. (I know sexes matter in this sort of situation sometimes)
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Hedda Blackford - Mon, 30 Nov 2015 02:14:02 EST Kd+sUt8p No.44866 Reply
Document everything that's yours that you're afraid might disappear. Take photos, and hopefully you can dig up sales receipts. And yes, get a lawyer, immediately.
Charles Turveyford - Mon, 30 Nov 2015 02:55:22 EST Mqal8yYZ No.44867 Reply

I've been in a position where I needed legal counsel. What's the best way to find one? Just googling, or should I flip through a telephone book like the good ol' days.

How much will it cost for legal counsel? Or would a lawyer be involved from start to end?

How long does it take for social security to go through a name change regearding benfits?

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- Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:20:30 EST 3xXBEjni No.44854
File: 1448378430283.jpg -(143334B / 139.97KB, 500x603) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How long does it take for social security to go through a name change regearding benfits?
Hello I want to change my name but also receive SSI for disability. (MS)
I've had a lot of problems with Social Security and my pension in the past.

A few months ago they falsely accused me of having 5 grand in stocks, which took 3 months to appeal (w/o receiving income)

And it took me two months for them to adjust my income level after a hiccup in their system where they took 1/3 out of regular check.

I'd really like to change my name but they aren't swift or thorough about anything and I do not want them fucking me over like they have in the past.

How long do you think it would take to process the name change and if their is a lapse in reeving income how long would it likely be?
Graham Pockridge - Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:19:10 EST U23++ADK No.44863 Reply
There are plenty of free legal advice sites out there. Some though you ask a question and then suddenly ask for money for an answer. Look around.
Many are decent attorneys that help, to help, and in turn they learn more in
their practice.

Drug dogs

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- Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:55:11 EST CxQVSj8G No.44860
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What are the laws regarding reasonable cause to search someone and drug dogs in Canada? Mostly on campus
Nicholas Summercocke - Fri, 27 Nov 2015 19:56:04 EST EbSwDKs7 No.44861 Reply
Deploying a drug dog is considered a search, if that's what you're asking. The only major caveat for searches on campus are dorm rooms. If you live in one, it's probably not like your private residence.
Emma Nicklebury - Fri, 27 Nov 2015 20:06:31 EST BkaAvQoR No.44862 Reply
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>> In most cases, the police can only search you only if you have been placed under arrest or if you have consented to the search. However, there are exceptions. These include:

>If the police find you in a place where they are searching for drugs, and they have reason to believe that you have drugs.
>The police find you in a vehicle where people are transporting or drinking alcohol illegally, and they believe that you have alcohol.
>The police believe that you have an illegal weapon or one that was used to commit a crime, and suspect that it might be removed or destroyed in the time it would take to get a search warrant.

>>If the police search you for any of these reasons, you must allow the search. If you believe that you have been wrongly searched, tell the police that you object to the search, and speak to a lawyer afterwards about your concerns.
>>If the police search you in relation to one offence, and find evidence that you may have committed another offence, you can be charged in relation to the second offence.
>>For example, if they search you on suspicion of having drugs, but find an illegal weapon, you can be charged with possession of the illegal weapon.


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- Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:34:30 EST Vm+cbRUU No.44850
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I will try to keep this as short as possible people.

I know someone, a woman, who is Lebanese and has 2 children. She is married but they are basically separated. The guy he is I think technically a sociopath and he uses his own kids as pawns in his game. He doe snot love them and he does not live with her or his 2 kids anymore, but does see them sometimes. Example he took them on a 40km journey on a motorbike with no helmets and they are like 10 and 12 yo, also it was cold and now they are ill.

Anyway she wants to the country because Lebanese law is such that the man has all of the power when it comes to custody of kids through a divorce and many other things. She wants to flee. She does not know how and I a wondering what would be the best place, way and how? The main thing here is for the kids sake, this guy is terrible and ruining many lives

Any further details that are needed I will provide them
Thanks in advance
Molly Pittworth - Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:15:19 EST HAfEOiIH No.44856 Reply
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This isn't a law question, other than that you're asking for counsel on how to help her break the law. I'm sorry she's in a shit situation but I have nothing to say that wouldn't fall under common sense.

Try posting in /vroom/. You might get some insightful replies amongst all the crap.


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- Mon, 23 Nov 2015 23:35:07 EST iDNhIqMz No.44851
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If someone was convicted of 5 felonies for an incident, and theyve been sentenced to probation and about 3 years has passed, is there anyway to take the case back to trial or something, and persue attempted manslaughter? Im in NYS, I'd appreciate anyone's feedback. It was 3 years ago, like I said and the court preceedings are all over. I know there's no double-jeopardy in this country but is there some re-assessment of the case that can take place? The police have a machete used in the incident in their possession and a lot of other evidence documented. I have no idea how this guy didn't go to prison, I'm really fucking baffled but I think he ought to.
Hannah Sammertan - Tue, 24 Nov 2015 00:10:55 EST 7uuwzQBM No.44852 Reply
Double jeopardy wouldn't apply to a manslaughter charge if it concerned actions or elements not covered by the previous convictions. If that's too theoretical for you, if there the convictions included things like felony assault and there's no new evidence, the prosecution is done.
Jarvis Sishwater - Tue, 24 Nov 2015 02:23:15 EST X9xKQNwU No.44853 Reply
what was he charged with and what were the circumstances of the case.

why do you want him to be sentenced to more time

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