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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Verbal harassment?

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- Mon, 06 Feb 2017 09:58:54 EST /ExLSjhZ No.45719
File: 1486393134109.gif -(6163B / 6.02KB, 200x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Verbal harassment?
Hey! The following story is kinda stupid and simple but hear me out please.

My aunt moved in with my mom, myself, and my girlfriend in a 2 bedroom apartment. I don't know how long she is staying there but she currently is sleeping on a mattress under our stairwell.

The problem is, when my girlfriend and I go downstairs to the kitchen or leave the house, she talks to shit to us like about how my dead relative isnt here (who I assumed she didnt like) and how my girlfriend looks (short, handicap). Its been mostly towards my girlfriend until recently when I stood up for her and said "Stop talking shit to my girlfriend." I would ignore the insults to my girlfriend until recently, and now I'm being verbally harassed.

Is there some kind of law about verbal harassment to an individual in their home? What can I say or do to stop this from happening? It's stressing my girlfriend and I out and I believe we're being treated unfairly.
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Jenny Lighthall - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:45:26 EST iQgrmD6f No.45720 Reply
>>45719
As with every question first we need your location, laws where you are are the issue at hand.
A couple questions also , does your aunt pay rent in some form, or is she named on the Tennant contract/agreement? How long has she been there?

Depending on you local laws your best recourse may be to just kick her out if you are a Tennant and she is not. This is also assuming you are on the Tennant agreement, if it's your mom's apartment just move out dude.

Pressing Charges for Childhood Abuse.

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- Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:46:18 EST i4tspx15 No.45714
File: 1485672378107.jpg -(35362B / 34.53KB, 543x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Pressing Charges for Childhood Abuse.
I've been considering pressing charges against my mother for childhood abuse, which included identity theft, to the tune of nearly $4,000 in debt in my name, as well as poisoning and attempted murder.

I definitely have evidence, police reports, CPS calls, as well as therapist visits from when I was that age.

I'm almost 25 now, and living in California. I plan to talk to a lawyer about it, but I was just posting this here to see if anyone has experience with something like this, or what I could expect from something like this, or if a court would even look at this.
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Hugh Wazzlenin - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 14:04:04 EST JgrhRLWY No.45717 Reply
you're talking about stuff 7 years ago minimum right?

Without hearing anything about the merits, which there is probably none, you're years beyond the statute of limitations on all claims, either criminal or civil.

HTH

Name change final judgement paperwork

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- Sat, 28 Jan 2017 23:54:12 EST 7SDHLtOE No.45713
File: 1485665652909.jpg -(141687B / 138.37KB, 802x1200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Name change final judgement paperwork
So ages ago I had posted about if I was in a position to change my name and decided to go for it. My hearing is on March 3rd, but apparently, I need to bring in a final judgment paper (Which I don't have on me.) Do I need to go to a clerk beforehand, or am I able to simply print it out and bring it?
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Nathaniel Bimmlesark - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:43:54 EST Nx0pJM6s No.45715 Reply
i dunno

what is your new name OP
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Phoebe Worthingman - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:37:16 EST gUqG/1ie No.45716 Reply
There's almost certainly someone you can call who can answer this question for you
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Samuel Wenderdock - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:45:08 EST /QJ1yNxl No.45718 Reply
wtf is wrong with her ass

In some trouble. Help.

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- Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:15:10 EST DTRF8mUI No.45155
File: 1456503310432.jpg -(70956B / 69.29KB, 683x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. In some trouble. Help.
You can read the full thread with all the details here, but I'm gonna just tell you guys the abridged version. I'm a fucking idiot hothead.

http://boards.420chan.org/qq/res/499639.php

>23
>dont live at home
>young siblings still live at home
>Multiple times sex offender moves next door, convicted of incest, first degree sexual assault, repeated times on same victim
>has another 2nd degree sexual assault case from a dif time
>find out this guys fucked his sister over 100 times and threatened to kill her if she talks
>this happened over the course of 10 years. turns out that him and his brother were joking about it multiple times throughout the years over texts, his brother liked to watch
>The town wont do anything, the police wont do anything. legally he can live there
>He only served 9 months in county for this
>end up figuring out people in county with him, they say hes super creepy and bragged about how easy he got off, tell me to get him out of my neighborhood asap
>I go nuts
>I smash his car back windshield, he doesn't notice because he never fucking leaves because his parents own the house and pay for all his shit
>I show up back there with a baseball bat, tap on the glass of his house and threaten him to leave, he starts calling the police
>I run out and beat the fuck out of his car, dip, he doesnt see the vehicle i leave in
>send death threats in the mail, call his mom from a textfree number at her work and leave a voicemail saying get your sons ass out of town
>Cops show up, ask him if it was me or my other neighbor, he looks me up on fb and says that it was me (hes not even supposed to have fucking fb as part of his probation)

This was all on wednesday. Than, yesterday

>My other neighbor starts getting messages from dudes brother asking who the fuck i am and all this shit
>The police call me, tell me that I'm under investigation and to come down to the station and answer some questions
>I tell them i can't because I work third shift, they tell me to figure out when I can and call them back
>I call back 15 mins later, ask them details about investigation, they tell me that its about some damage to a vehicle but thats all they can tell me until I come down. I tell them that I live in a different city and dont have time to fuckaround with this shit. They ask me where I live and I don't tell them, they get hostile
>End up giving them an old address to a city thats an hour and a half away, the officer tells me that hes coming up there personally to question me, this guy has it out for me

I'm scared fuckin' shitless. I have my lil bro watching dudes house, if hes gone when the mail comes hes going there to see if he can snag the death threat. I didnt lick the envelope (not like theyre gonna bring in a forensic team or do dna evidence for this kind of shit), but im worried about finger prints, i dont remember if my prints are in the system in that jurisdiction.
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Martha Wankindark - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:41:28 EST LaGGd+2y No.45768 Reply
IT'S TIME TO STOP NECROBUMPING THIS THREAD IS OVER A YEAR OLD!!
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Sophie Banderbury - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 02:40:27 EST DTRF8mUI No.45772 Reply
Yea I've been doing my probation and got moved to low supervision pretty quickly and have just been coasting, working at a shitty gas station job. I only have to meet my PO once every 3 months now, next month i'm up. Can't bitch about that. Dropped out of school, have been applying for apprenticeships, im now getting sued by the dudes insurance company. Its way harder to find a legit job than I thought on probation, hopefully I hear back from some of these apprenticeships this week. I'm prepared to get a good job and start working my ass off.

No bump cuz this is old as fuck.
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Sophie Banderbury - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 02:43:23 EST DTRF8mUI No.45773 Reply
I got a best man speech to give this fall, i can't fuck this up

Car question

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- Sun, 08 Jan 2017 23:26:17 EST 2KIL/fZA No.45691
File: 1483935977022.jpg -(4713B / 4.60KB, 284x177) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Car question
Is it illegal to change the hood arnament/logo and swapping them between different cars?
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Lydia Foshham - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:27:34 EST 45huNpiF No.45693 Reply
>>45691
Nope.
Long as you properly own all the shit involved.
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Jack Miblingwill - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:24:21 EST nJfAN+NJ No.45708 Reply
>>45691
Just don't try to sell it as something it isn't (which you'd have to be selling to special needs to get away with in the first place.)

Public Intoxication in Alabama

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- Fri, 06 Jan 2017 12:58:34 EST 5qMDumVC No.45682
File: 1483725514479.jpg -(23883B / 23.32KB, 700x389) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Public Intoxication in Alabama
Charged with Public Intoxication in Alabama. Alabama law states that public intoxication is a "violation", which is lesser than a misdemeanor or felony. Is it still necessary to report this on job applications when asked if I've been convicted of a crime even though it's more a petty offense than a 'crime'?
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Cedric Duvingwell - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:04:42 EST 45huNpiF No.45689 Reply
>>45682
Nope. Same as a jaywalking or parking ticket.
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Lydia Crashham - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 16:23:49 EST 5qMDumVC No.45690 Reply
>>45684
I am going through a court process though. My court date is next week.
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Barnaby Secklewater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:22:46 EST AXoTj1zI No.45698 Reply
>>45682
You are not really obligated to say you were charged for anything whatsoever.
It is generally in your best interests to 'not' offer these to employers.

Once you do offer information of a charge, to a potential employer or other entities;
It is basically information that can spread rapidly among the masses of information
clearinghouses.

Note the masses of background services, one simple misstep of sharing sensitive
information with one potential employer can be forwarded and follow you around.

Info clearing houses by nature are often indifferent and inaccurate.

Corporate Law

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- Fri, 06 Jan 2017 21:29:03 EST rHRgCDWm No.45683
File: 1483756143885.gif -(921544B / 899.95KB, 171x141) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Corporate Law
Hail /law/,

I have a question.

I signed a Non-Compete Agreement with my company WAFFLE DINGLE, Inc. when I first started. Later WAFFLE DINGLE, Inc. was purchased by venture capitalists. At this point it became WAFFLE DINGLE LLC. .

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I signed an agreement with WAFFLE DINGLE Inc. It became WAFFLE DINGLE LLC. Do I still have to honor the agreement? Does WAFFLE DINLGE Inc. still exist even though it became WAFFLE DINGLE LLC.?

Not that a Non-Compete is even enforcible in IL right now.

Anywho, is that a valid argument?
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Nell Brookfoot - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 09:45:19 EST rHRgCDWm No.45686 Reply
I dunno, I had an agreement with company A when I decided to work for them. But when company B acquired company A, I began working at company B which I never agreed to work for under a certain set of conditions. I don't see why company B should have the rights to the same terms I agreed to with company A, as I did not agree to uphold any of these covenants with company B.

I'm not a filing cabinet to be purchased and moved at a whim.

I'm actually seeing alot of arguments in favor of the proletariat in these situations.
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Cedric Duvingwell - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 13:10:06 EST 45huNpiF No.45687 Reply
>>45686
Pretty much all that stuff is transferred during sales.

What they CAN'T do is hold you to the standards of the LLC non-compete. Meaning that, say the NC you signed was for one year. The LLC folks can enforce that one year, but they can't say, "Well, now you work for the LLC, so the real time period is two years."
They CAN ask that you sign a new LLC though to change the terms if they need to.
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Sidney Climblemack - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 14:45:55 EST JgrhRLWY No.45688 Reply
>>45686
>I'm not a filing cabinet to be purchased and moved at a whim.

you're not. You're a human being and can quit your job and be in no worse position then if you quit your job with the entity your contracted with.

Suing the Police

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- Wed, 07 Dec 2016 06:02:29 EST Rb3WCeO3 No.45637
File: 1481108549467.jpg -(67784B / 66.20KB, 736x736) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Suing the Police
Basically I want to sue the Police department in another city for negligence.
I live in another city but its within the same County.
What do you guys suggest?
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Ian Cusslebanks - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 02:59:59 EST +wTHFocC No.45674 Reply
>>45666
If you have not looked into say police defense attorneys. Shit can be picked apart at every turn. But the methodology, All attorneys have this, which makes them unique to their practice. Generally police back police. So a seasoned, cops learn their defenses, by default.

If you are the kid who worked in the DA's office from past posting; by default
you are/were always against people asking if a lawsuit possible, or how to proceed in pursing a case.

Dynamic? many areas of law. You know any attorney can jump from practice to practice. As you say criminal defense, part of which is criminal defense of LE,
You have a lot of horsepower being you if you are good.

Mistake would be asking you for law advice. Even online. If person threw you a real scenario, he posed a could-be. Which as you know is a foundation is litigation, defense, and the other scenario. Practices in law.

As most attorneys say, good luck.
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Augustus Shittingstock - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 12:49:02 EST TlX+lmlh No.45678 Reply
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They're basically trying to build a case against for crimes I didn't commit. They're using electronic surveillance against me in order to assist in their case. As far as I'm concerned they're using my interest in expensive cars, fragrance, electronics and expensive homes as a "reasonable indication" that I may be a potential terrorist/criminal. I also have an interest in technical subjects such as computer programming, aircraft, military subjects, and others but it's only as a hobby. I also study history and write alternate history scenarios. They also keep tabs on my porn habits.

I know but I can't prove that they've contacted my employers without my permission. I know that they've contacted potential employers without my permission in order to make it difficult for me to attain employment. I know they've tried to become involved in my education without my permission;all educational records are protected by FIRPA regulations. I know that they've become involved in my family life and my personal life.

However I can't prove any of it. But if they decide to file charges against me or harass me further I will sue them in Federal Court. Because LAPD has a history of corruption and blatant violations of the law.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/forget-the-nsa-the-lapd-spies-on-millions-of-innocent-folks-4473467
https://www.laprogressive.com/lapd-police-spying/
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-anti-drone-campaign-lapd-city-hall-20140821-story.html
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Isabella Trotwater - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 08:09:29 EST JgrhRLWY No.45681 Reply
>>45678
Unless the 9th circuit has some weird rule (I'm in the 11th) if they get probable cause you're going to have a hard time with a civil rights suit for false arrest or malicious prosecution.

Generally bad searches only have the remedy of suppression.

Copyright shit

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- Fri, 06 Jan 2017 02:24:49 EST adsKHKQV No.45679
File: 1483687489933.gif -(1230723B / 1.17MB, 260x173) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Copyright shit
So let's say I watch this one movie, and I found it to be absolute dogshit and a huge waste of potential. Let's say that it makes me so autist that I want to write like a book or something that involves the same concept that the movie. It's not a complete remake or something, but more like "inspired." Kind of like how Babylon 5 and Star Trek are similar but their own different thing.

Let's say the original creators of the movie I hate catch wind of this project I'm working on. What could I do to protect myself from being sued to death from them?
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David Fuckingway - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 04:15:58 EST HH5Qxc6P No.45680 Reply
Not copy any trademarks, text, or characters. Like you can have a Spock, but he can't be Spock in name or all but name.

risperdal claim

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- Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:12:31 EST 0wRJoE3j No.45649
File: 1481937151612.jpg -(60176B / 58.77KB, 500x736) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. risperdal claim
Guys! I believe I have a strong case for the class action lawsuit against J&J. I took Risperdal from ages 12-16 and developed breast tissue as a male. Its significant enough that a doctor was concerned about it though I was too embarassed to tell him my life was ruined because of it. I should be able to obtain records proving all of this however one thing is missing.

I dont have any pictures from when I was younger that show me before the gyne. Its one of the first things my lawyer has asked me for. Im telling them this on Monday afraid of the outcome. I almost want to falsify a pic of a kid claiming its me.

Do you think I can win a class action suit without proving I didnt have breast before the medication?
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Edward Biffingsetch - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:40:46 EST e6ZHJcJg No.45669 Reply
>>45649

>>Do you think I can win a class action suit without proving I didnt have breast before the medication?

Ignoring the class action issue for a moment -- in a products liability suit against the manufacturer, you would need to show "causation". That is, you would need to prove that it's more likely than not that your breasts were caused by the medication.

I'm sure that your attorneys would like the pictures for their persuasive value, but it's hardly the only way to get at this point. You mention that you saw a doctor -- they'll have copies of your medical records. Your pediatrician/GP may have records from your physical, which will prominently NOT indicate that you had breasts as an 8 year old boy or w/e. At a hypothetical trial, presumably your parents would be able to testify to the effect of "yeah, the kid didn't have tits until like puberty."

Just be honest with your attorneys and try your best to find documentation of your medical history.

You really don't have any pictures of you as a kid pre 12 years old *at all*?
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Fucking Fuckingstock - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:30:13 EST xOXaBM35 No.45672 Reply
>>45669
Okay guys. This was the request for photos:

A current picture of you
A picture of you during Risperdal use
A picture before Risperdal use
~All of these pictures should be shirtless from the waistline up and showing face
~Each forward facing picture should be paired with a picture of you turned to the side.

So yeah, I don't have a bunch of topless photos of me as a kid. I don't have pictures of me as a kid period. I grew up in foster care.

I gave my attorney what I had. He says he is moving to the next stage. I genuinely appreciate all of you. Im nervous. Gyno has been a jackhammer on my self esteem my whole life and the company that caused it is being held accountable. Also I badly need money. I would say gyno's effect on me reduced my ability to earn money and work.

If I win this, I will have faith in justice and the belief that I deserve a life absent of humiliation from others
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Ian Cusslebanks - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 03:26:21 EST +wTHFocC No.45675 Reply
>>45672
Generally attorneys, in cases like this work on a http://law.freeadvice.com/litigation/litigation/lawyer_contingency_fee.htm (do not need money to pursue a case.)

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Contingent+Fee

Telling ya. If a picture can be produced, Difficult. As is you 'possible ' reasons' for the drug.

Again, if attorney is always seeking fees, know what is reasonable. Seek law firms that practice in medical malpractice. I mean firms. Strong law firms.

HELP!

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- Fri, 16 Dec 2016 06:40:18 EST JxoyClbw No.45648
File: 1481888418033.jpg -(56996B / 55.66KB, 593x305) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. HELP!
if someone were to accuse me of rape that I didn't do would I still go to jail while fighting my case?
The story would've been over four years ago.
I'm trying to get them to call the cops on me to prove that they're lying but not if it gets me sent to jail.
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Henry Chuckledodge - Sat, 24 Dec 2016 01:48:48 EST Yhz4KtAR No.45668 Reply
>>45653
>>45652
Stop talking to her. The only thing that you can do at this point is make it worse for yourself lifewise and legally by continuing to talk to her. And as far as it goes, you had sex with her years ago..she claims you raped her years ago. No one can support either claim it sounds like so even if they go to the police you shouldn't end up in jail.

Just keep a level head and try and duck out of this scenario. If you talk to her make it a last time sort of deal and calmly explain that you just want to be left alone and to leave her alone. Keep a level head about this man.
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Betsy Focklechere - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:11:12 EST U6aHttmO No.45670 Reply
>>45652
no proof that it was you if you don't have the same phone at the time of arrest. get a new phone, change number, deny it was you
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Betsy Focklechere - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 14:12:14 EST U6aHttmO No.45671 Reply
>>45670
or better yet don't say anything and hire a lawyer if the police ask you anything

Court reporting

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- Thu, 01 Dec 2016 13:11:47 EST 6HYelcHc No.45629
File: 1480615907061.jpg -(20669B / 20.18KB, 421x421) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Court reporting
I was thinking about going to school for stenography. I know court reporters make good money. My aunt makes 6 digits as one. Im 22 l, was wondering if anyone had experience in this field, advice etc.
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Sophie Pucklebury - Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:50:31 EST L7KxdZYE No.45635 Reply
Start learning shorthand. You're going to need extensive training in it.
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Beatrice Breshstetch - Mon, 05 Dec 2016 16:02:45 EST 2r7yEDcB No.45636 Reply
>>45635
I didn't know there was a standard form of shorthand.

Gay Marriage

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- Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:01 EST NAqaMqZ/ No.45598
File: 1478878921998.jpg -(2537840B / 2.42MB, 4520x2568) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Gay Marriage
Now that trumps elected...

I'm gay. But I am not married. Do i have sufficient stake to sue the federal government to repeal their supreme court decision and restore the sanctity of marriage?
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Reuben Minnernane - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 18:22:06 EST EpqQcmz+ No.45627 Reply
>>45603

He didn't say anything directly, no.

What he has said is that he would do a lot to restore "Freedom of religion" and states rights, and we all know what people really mean when they talk that way in America. They mean rolling back gay rights and restoring the freedom to discriminate (Which a lot of red states already have in the ability to refuse employment and housing to people on the basis of sexuality).

In short, he doesn't have to do anything directly related to gays. All he has to do is allow states to do so. The same way Obama instructed the DOJ not to pursue marijuana charges in recreational/medical states, Trump can instruct his DOJ not to pursue any cases against those who may violate federal statutes or case-law when it comes to certain issues.
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Nell Sembleville - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 13:20:13 EST Yhz4KtAR No.45640 Reply
>>45627
Being president is in large part about keeping good pr going. Especially since you have to run again to stay there. All things considered what you're talking about, what ops talking about? These are legally unlikely scenarios. Hypothetical that could have people affected negatively? It sound like borderline fear mongering. I would say not to jump to a worst case scenario type idea right away based on assumptions here.
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Rebecca Clayshit - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 23:09:24 EST jMsjNZxD No.45641 Reply
>>45603
He is gay/bisexual. any Republicans are gay. Larry whats his name, whatever the case, he will appoint any person that does not reflect social values that this country is supposed to represent. He speaks of states rights, whuch means more Bshit from the right. States rights, how about the peoples rights. This country is now fucked, it is as abnormal on the politically right as any of the most fucked up regimes in the world. Few countries have as bad leadrship as trump and his crooked corrupt spiritually immoral people he seeks to surround him.

New Identity

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- Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:53:54 EST TtiDJUHT No.45604
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So I'm working on creating a new strawman ie; passport,drivers license,academic record,financial records. I'm not asking for advice on how to attain such documents. I'm inquiring as to the legal consequences of getting caught using such documents. I have no intention of using stolen documents, only false documents or those attained from corrupt officials. I inquiring particularly in regards to the legal consequences withing the European Union,United States, and Canada.
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George Sabblestone - Sat, 03 Dec 2016 04:31:14 EST VaWIad/z No.45633 Reply
>>45626
>>if yoy have never been arrested even better.

>Unfortunately that isnt the case.

My point was that, If one has been arrested in theUS there is an NICIC database? It scans fingerprints, it may or may not pick up on somebody's
prints but the arrest history is there. Seen it enough times.
So if no arrest success would be far better

If somebody can acquire a birth certificate they can get a social security card, an ID, drivers license, etc. That is basically the main link is a birth certificate.

Hope I could help more. Some figure ways to acquire these. Seems DMVs fingerprint people these days, at times their systems go down, eh? If it's not electronic the better. Scout around a bit maybe. See what things look like.

Research is all I can say. I have a relative who has been existing for years, air travel etc. Just under a fictitious name it seems. But he's paranoid yet sticks out like crazy, lives in a small one of those weird towns where drugs, barfights, etc.
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Ernest Puttingbatch - Mon, 05 Dec 2016 00:12:41 EST trRf6tod No.45634 Reply
>>45633
I will agree, most paranoid cats suck at hiding in plain sight. The gray man is real and is the true way of hiding.

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