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- Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:35:24 EST QWxUGSHZ No.46627
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Here is a scenerio:

>14 year old girl tells 20 year old man she wants to kill herself online
>20 year old man brushes it off thinking its just teen angst
>14 year old girl actually kills herself
>police recover her account post death, find that she was talking with this person
>On top of the suicide, often make sexual jokes about "dating" and "fucking" although its all purely joking, and the relationship is platonic
>In the account includes his full name, picture of himself, and state within the US he resides in (not the town or adress)
Should the 20 year old man be worried at all, could he be arrested for anything?
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Frederick Pickgold - Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:16:08 EST UjZfbuT7 No.46628 Reply
So long as he didn't send or solicit any obscene material or make sexual advances, he's got nothing to worry about. A man can talk about almost anything with almost anyone, including sex and kids. A man should never discuss this again with anyone though.
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Wesley Pickworth - Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:56:49 EST WznYw1+o No.46631 Reply
>>46627
make yourself out as a victim of the police heavy handedness "i was careful under the impression that i had freedom of speech." were you? involuntary manslaughter by text is a tough thing to charge. in order to charge that they would basically have to substantiate some bad intent. god have mercy on your soul.

they are going to contextualize whoopie cushions as damning and your responses are going to have to recontextualize everything as a "big whoop." a lot of that is going off of the bill of rights. your public defender will not do this unless you call them out on fucking up their job, you have to work with public offenders in an educated way.

you know, you can basically rob a pizza delivery driver as long as there are no fresh wounds, physical recordings, or cash drawer accounting. just say that the pizza delivery driver went home being a liar and it turns into he said she said between you and the prosecution pretty quickly.

don't be scared because being a liar costs the state money in the end. it isn't sustainable except that these guys are sleepwalking.
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Sidney Pusslewater - Tue, 30 Jun 2020 13:47:00 EST QWxUGSHZ No.46646 Reply
>>46631
Thank you for the input. This isn't really about me though
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:08:21 EST 9USm8rWw No.46657 Reply
>>46627

Are both the girl and the man in the US? There's sorta two things here.

  1. In terms of the suicide, I'm pretty sure the police have to prove that the man actively did/said something to make the girl commit suicide, to the point that she wouldn't have done so at that time without his interaction. As long as he didn't say something like "lol kill yourself" or the like, he should be fine.

2. Sexual talk and stuff is definitely going to get looked in to. Off the top of my head I don't think it's a crime to talk sexual stuff to someone under 18, but the rules might be different considering she's 14 years old and considered unable to have any form of sexual agency. If there's no sexual videos/pictures (even just sending links to porn is a crime) and they've never met up, I think the man is safe If the girl was 16-17 years old, and it's the situation above, I think the man won't get hassled, but because 14 is so young, I'm not sure if there's different rules about even talking sexually.
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Cornelius Dushstore - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 04:41:31 EST SPLxxjsG No.46666 Reply
>>46657
this 20 year might deserve to get in trouble of the sexual jokes made to a child. joking or not its inappropriate . 20 year old men should not be talking to 14 year old girls about sex and dating
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Thu, 30 Jul 2020 06:42:19 EST 9USm8rWw No.46670 Reply
>>46666
While I agree it's stupid and inappropriate at best, inappropriate does not always mean illegal. The person also didn't give the state as well, so it'll be difficult to give a proper answer.

In my state, we have a specific "grooming" crime this would fall under, but that was only made a crime in 2014, so it might not be where the OP lives. Also to be charged with it, it has to be proven that he surely was talking to her to lead to sex eventually. Obviously, talking about fucking her is a big red flag that this was the intention, so it's basically up to whether OP can convince a jury that he was talking to this 14 year old about fucking her, with no intent of fucking her at all, which would be pretty difficult.

Funny fact about our grooming law as well, is that it only counts if it end result (fucking someone under 16, taking sexual videos, etc...) is an indictable offence. You could talk to a 14 yeah old and basically groom them for the sole purpose of looking up their skirt, and it wouldn't be grooming, because that's only a summary offence.
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:lime: - Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:43:27 EST +uGtlkEy No.46692 Reply
your friend has nothing to worry about, cops are not at all about following up on leads like that.

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