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Poetry for beginners

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- Mon, 28 May 2018 22:04:52 EST ERyV+qkn No.70116
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Hey /lit/ finding myself with a lot more time on my hands these days. I kind of feel like writing again but I want to give poetry a shot this time. Used to write a lot of short stories but I haven't in many years what little I did with poetry was way back in highschool and I remember nothing.

Anyone have some good book suggestions that cover the structure/form of different kinds of poetry, something I desperately need a refresher in. And just recommendations on some poetry collections in general that would be worth reading. Thanks guys.
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Fuck Darrysodging - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 19:09:13 EST zJlfxFHz No.71218 Reply
>>70865
Second! where is that from *sweats profusely*
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John Givingpat - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 03:47:32 EST pnomgnT+ No.71229 Reply
>>70116
when you seriously consider writing in verse, as a contemporary american, you find that we pronounce all of our shit colloquially in a retarded manner (untrue to the original and true form). it is literally (another retarded colloquialism) retarded to attempt serious poetic verse as an american living in 2019
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John Givingpat - Wed, 25 Dec 2019 03:49:34 EST pnomgnT+ No.71230 Reply
>>71229


good luck understanding true english metre. you'll be old and gray before you memorize half of the goddamned language . MAYBE youll fart some good shit out in your 80s but hey look at ram dass that jolly african-american just died at 88 youll be lucky to write anything let alone see the merits of publishing
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Beginner philosophy?

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- Fri, 26 Apr 2019 13:59:52 EST EdSW6qpl No.70560
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Hi,

I figured that philosophy is a thing that's missing in my life, I don't know why. I would like to read some, although I can't say which field of philosophy interests me. What reading would you recommend?

Thank you
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Hedda Fuddlebury - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 23:10:56 EST UQGIBKqS No.71179 Reply
The other /lit/ has a wiki which contains a number of philosophy reading recs and how to proceed in reading them. It's been memed to death, but unironically you should start with at least some of the Greeks. If you don't want to take a deep dive like that, I'd say tool around on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, listen to In Our Time or The Partially Examined Life, or even just read Existential Comics and see what philosophers strike your interest
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Fuck Wongermet - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 15:04:09 EST VlWl6C3x No.71217 Reply
>>70560
Read the federalist papers, OP.

>>71120
Cbuck Palahinuk actually wrote fight club because he wanted to make sometbing really dumb that would annoy his publisher, so the story goes.
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Polly Sankinwerk - Mon, 23 Dec 2019 10:30:57 EST WWuInbHV No.71225 Reply
>>71120
>Nietzsche

I need some help with Nietzsche. I tried reading through Beyond Good and Evil and could not understand most of it. I think I finally gave up after like 10 pages. Is this one especially challenging or am I just not smart/well-read enough to manage with his primary works?

PDF riot!

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- Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:11:05 EST yhvOxXVv No.71206
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when you realize that everything is at stake, you will know that anything will do.
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I love Warhammer 40k and now want to get into real gothic horror /gothic science fiction

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- Tue, 23 Aug 2016 00:34:09 EST 9WT30SLH No.68611
File: 1471926849619.jpg -(75776B / 74.00KB, 669x1000) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I love Warhammer 40k and now want to get into real gothic horror /gothic science fiction
what would be some recommendations? I have read the basics, Dracula and Frankenstein, but I want to get more deeply into the genre and the dark aspects of it, I also real liked BloodBorne if that means anything
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Hedda Clendletire - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:37:00 EST S23LE1od No.69128 Reply
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>>68611
Though it would probably be considered one of "the basics," pic fucking related.

Also (though it's not sci-fi), for those who'd be in to southern gothic, I might suggest Flannery O'Connor; Wise Blood was a fucking trip.
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Nicholas Crellerped - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 09:09:01 EST MxImXeEr No.69779 Reply
Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast.
William Hope Hodgson's The House On The Borderland and The Night Land.
Bram Stoker's The Lair Of The White Worm.
Anything by HP Lovecraft, Edgar Allen Poe, or Algernon Blackwood.

Basic Writers’ Terminology // Vernacular lesson for a newb

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- Wed, 04 Dec 2019 00:43:38 EST q4GYqaKt No.71180
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I lost a beginners guide of sorts for writing and poetry that mentions things like prose and sentence fragmenting in ways I really hadnt found before reading there. Going to be getting it back from storage far the fuck away this month. But I am feeling impatient and figure why not make a thread asking you all here what you consider the need-to-know terms of writing?

l just wanna be able to specify when my friends ask for feedback on their slam poetry and writing or music and stuff but, I feel like to even critique writing like that I would need better ways to articulate which parts of the writing need improvement, one creative to another you know?
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Ian Guckletere - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 00:53:23 EST 7CZ4zA5h No.71181 Reply
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>>71180
Maybe one of the book suggestions in the Poetry for Beginners thread?
https://boards.420chan.org/lit/thread/70116/poetry-for-beginners

Here's an interesting interview with Le Guin:
"UKL: When you’re talking about the sound in the rhythm of prose, it is so different from poetry, because it’s in a way much coarser. It’s a very long beat, the rhythms of a prose work. Of course, the sentence has its rhythms too. Woolf was intensely aware of that. She has a paragraph about how rhythm is what gives her the book, but, boy, it’s hard to talk about. It’s one of these experiential things that we don’t really have a vocabulary for. I wonder if there is a vocabulary for it. It’s like talking, again, about music. You can only say so much about music and then you simply have to play it. Some person can hear it and get it or not get it."
https://lithub.com/ursula-k-le-guin-dictators-are-always-afraid-of-poets/
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Jarvis Bludgehine - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 09:02:28 EST ylxQEmun No.71182 Reply
You can sit down and read Strunk & White or a high school guide to poetic structure or something like that if you really want but it won't make you a better critic. Knowing the technical terms of English Language won't much improve your ability to judge English Literature.
Like you can tell your friends that their third pentamic quatrain has too few iambs and the internal rhyme scheme is inconsistent but you could also just say "this line feels off to me". Besides, not everyone who asks you for feedback is going to understand all that terminology.
If you read enough poetry and prose that your friends think you're a good person to ask then you'll know just by reading something when it's wrong and ninety-nine percent of the time simply knowing how to describe the problem in jargon won't help fix it. If your friends ask you how the pasta they made tastes you can just say it's too salty, you don't need to be able to reel off the precise concentration per gram of sodium chloride in the dish that they overshot by.

Creative Writing Feedback

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- Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:01:51 EST xkjFj0VZ No.71176
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Not sure if this is the right place for this but my son who's in the 6th grade needs help on his creative writing assignment. It's due before Christmas break and I thought you guys might enjoy picking it apart.
Constructive criticism only please.



It's around noon. A young girl and her loving father are in the kitchen.

"Dad ,why does Jamal smell so bad? Doesnt he take baths?"

"Well, honey, it's because he's a black man black people usually have a weird, rancid, putrid, or even a revolting stench that comes from them. It's probably because they produce more aggression related hormones compared to other people. :-))"

"Oh! Is that why Mommy helps him take baths? And makes loud gutteral noises with also lots of bathtub squeaking? Because she's helping him to get the smell of hormonal aggression and pigsweat Dad?"

Father slides a speed loader filled with .45 hollow point rounds into his big, fatass motherfucking revolver then spins the cylinder which glistens silver and nickel under the sunlight while also making a satisfying clicking noise with every 6th of a rotation. He then stops the cylinder with hammer and pulls it back and says "Sweety I'll be right back, me and Jamal are gonna go to hunting for breakfast! Tell Mom I'll be back if she asks, and don't mention Jamal I want it to be a surprise!" he pats her head then kisses her forehead as he heads for the door as coolly and calmly as someone would leave the house for a leisurely Sunday afternoon for brunch and bookshopping, he had a hunch this was happening and therefore wasn't surprised, nonetheless he knew what he had to do and God damnit he was gonna enjoy it. He heads to Jamals house, and let's himself in with the copy of Jamals house key he gave to his wife and heads upstairs into the dirty pig jolly african-americans room. "Good, I caught him sleeping. Time to wake this stupid animal up." He coerces the sleeping man through clever tricks to open his mouth until he could just have enough room to slide the cold metal alloy barrels into his mouth then proclaims, "WAKE UP YOU SOON-TO-BE-DICKLESS jolly african-american AND BEG FOR YOUR LIFE!" Jamal awakes, and matches Father's gaze with his own fear-filled eyes, after a second or two he attempts to make a confused as well as desperate plea for his life with a fat metal cock in his mouth; as soon as he even begins to make the slightest pitiful noise, Father let's loose the volumtuous slug from his fat motherfucking revolver with the greatest sense of glee and resolve as he watches the jolly african-americanpiggies brain matter and blood soak into the bed. Father pulls out his knife and cuts off Jamal's member. Father returns home within 20 minutes of him leaving and turns on the stove then begins to make breakfast for one while calling his brother to come pick up his daughter. His brother gets her within minutes, soon after, Father throws the black guys cock on the pan after getting the skin off and cooks it to resemble a fatass juicy sausage. He cooks a delicious, beautiful, 10-star breakfast and retrieves the eat-in-bed-tray and brings the sweetest revenge meal up to his dumb, dirty, jolly african-american loving whore of a wife and watches with an amazing sense of accomplishment and the most sweetest taste of revenge as she gobbles up Jamal's severed, seared to perfection and seasoned cock.

The End
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Nell Middlelutch - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 21:57:27 EST reK9sGDz No.71178 Reply
>>71176
in the line:
>A young girl and her loving father are in the kitchen.
drop the word loving, it's redundant, the reader can tell he is loving from his actions in the following scenes. Readers aren't dumb, so don't spell things out.
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Wesley Clayman - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 08:19:57 EST bFgYVZCW No.71185 Reply
Seems like your son spends way too much time on 4cancer and it already turned him into a retard.
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Charles Sigglefetch - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 11:28:18 EST hO6ymg8F No.71187 Reply
circle jerk format of oh my wife's son made this what do you think?

pretty basic trolling

the balistics, logistics and story are all sub par.

i'm guessing a troll, good chuckle, you really got us brother

Show me your armpits

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- Sun, 24 Nov 2019 21:46:53 EST hO6ymg8F No.71155
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A marvelous lass of renown
Spent a piteous date on the town
She didn't get paid
And barely got laid
Now she's wearing a jizz coloured frown

Rare

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- Sat, 29 Jun 2019 06:25:30 EST CcwBRGSK No.70727
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Looking for the names of any texts that can be considered a bible for native american religions, animism, shamanism, early wicca, fae, and pantheism

Im a theology buff and it seems that there are no central books for any of these practices outside of bullshit from the new age section written by a bald man who likes cats
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Walter Bibblestat - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 06:40:23 EST 4LCWqwHR No.71106 Reply
Why not Michael Aquino?
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Eugene Clabbercocke - Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:24:00 EST YKVvVDXo No.71123 Reply
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When I was a child my mom bought me a book called Brother Eagle, Sister Sky. It was just a Native American story, but it seemed to be describing how their existential beliefs function. I think they had a very oral tradition, told around the camp fire. Could be wrong, mang.

Space-size-differences and that creative spark

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- Wed, 13 Nov 2019 00:36:26 EST hirblk7C No.71115
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I've been pondering on embroaching my skilltelect at writing passable sci-fiction into a book that dwelges the line between a, let's say type 2 civilization and a type 3 civilization. I was thinking having maybe a the type 2'ers at much better than the civ 3 people at like a noteworthy skill or aspect, but the level 3'ers of course being so, so much more far advanced, what with having the entire planet system harvested, when so surely the 2'ers only control one star.
Please strike me up on this what could be an ever fading dividing line there.
Have an idea? Got anything noteworthy?
Because it could quite easily make it's way into print.!
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Esther Pibblepure - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 00:51:24 EST CkgOmLJF No.71134 Reply
Sci fi's set in space are played out now. The setting should be within the mind or metaphysical or something. You dont want something generic. Who said type 2 or 3 was an actual criteria that exists?
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Shitting Clickleforth - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:32:09 EST ylxQEmun No.71135 Reply
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>>71134
Hannu Rajaniemi's books do this sometimes. I think. Honestly it's hard to tell where or what's happening a lot of the time.
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Angus Grandwill - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 18:33:58 EST 7CZ4zA5h No.71140 Reply
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Maybe think about positive and negative aspects of current societies, then take ideology projecting a better (or worse) way of living into the future, then set those projections or current way of living against each other, and examine both faults as the story line plays out.

Ursula Le Guin's "Dispossessed" did this well with an astrophysicist character living on the anarchist moon who is ostracized there for wanting to collaborate with other astrophysicists on the authoritarian planet. The moon civ had few resources so had to coordinate very carefully, but in an egalitarian way, while the planet had alot, but was extremely unequal, as we see through the eyes of the protagonist as he tries to navigate this place and its contradictions and yet accomplish the project he arrived there to do in the first place.

Non Fiction Stuff

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- Wed, 21 Nov 2018 05:54:03 EST 0YXAfObP No.70398
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I'm on the lookout for some comfy books about real stuff.
Travel journals are often neat, really liked A Year In Provence by Peter Mayle.
Started on Pilgrimage to Mecca by Lady Evelyn Cobbold recently, but since the entries are dated I decided to read it at the same dates as they're written.
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Cornelius Wuffingstock - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 07:32:09 EST eWGqeNf8 No.70674 Reply
>>70519
I started reading that for a while. Really strange with the shifts from there being different writers
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Gratyis - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:56:12 EST doafeZse No.71079 Reply
>>70398
Well do not forget your local congressmen can push your passport through if the other guy is getting lazy.
As far as new reads try talking to your local librarians.

The Difficulty of Rhyme in A Sonnet's Time

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- Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:19:34 EST iijDXrSk No.70817
What is an onion
When there are two domes
If it's from a city
South of Rome

Is it in gravy
Or is it in bread
What is a turnip
When it's sour fed

Put it in the pasta
Put it in the meat
When they're in my mind
You are the best treat
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Vetaswque - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:35:26 EST doafeZse No.71077 Reply
>>70817
The Golden rule is don't make the dead poets do your work.

What should i read?

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- Sat, 19 Oct 2019 21:24:20 EST tCekTcfA No.71052
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Should i read...

Genesys (from the bible)
Nietzsche's The Wanderer And It's Shadow
Cixin Liu The Third Body Problem
Or____ (the most reccomended book on this thread according to this list)
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Hilakrad - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:21:50 EST doafeZse No.71075 Reply
>>71052
I see your looking for somthing to help someone.
I recently had one of my books stolen its" I want my cbd now"
Well its about how it can help people, what it helps with, and how cbd implements things. The whole plot behind it though is remedy includes healing everything vs how beneficial it can be. It just can't include all as its just an old wife's tale....

genius

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- Sun, 06 Oct 2019 12:52:44 EST pPxsnvQb No.71000
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Any retard can write an American novel. Why do we allow this? Other countries preserve their national classics by exercising their disdain whilst reviewing contemporary authors. Does America shit out genius or have we lost it and gone completely crazy? Has 'genius' lost it's meaning here?
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Graham Sagglelure - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:45:53 EST 0asZD3z2 No.71066 Reply
>>71055
you live in a world where elephants paint reality check
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Frederick Waggledutch - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 12:34:06 EST 27qyFXc3 No.71067 Reply
>>71000
Yeah I suppose you are right about it. I can share my little example as well. I was asked to write an assignment for American novels but I'm totally useless in writing so I asked for helped to https://assignmentshark.com/ and I've got light novel after all. When my techer checked it she was impressed and suggested me to publish my "american novel" in public. I refused but they still think it was a masterpiece.

A Sonnet to Heaven

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- Fri, 26 Jul 2019 05:04:56 EST iijDXrSk No.70807
For the first day I saw you
Your heart was red
And when I went to Church
You saw me dead

For when the teacher said
You always find your heart

Your kindness just tore me apart
Now I am far away
And with another friend
But whenever I think of you
It makes me wonder

I guess I'm just roasted in red
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Henry Chamblepack - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:05:30 EST pyv38Bpq No.70872 Reply
>>70868
It's that mothafuckin'
Gangsta sheeit
NiggaaAAaAAAaa

Dostoyevsky
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Fall of Houston - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 19:15:25 EST nna7u/tJ No.70946 Reply
>>70807
A thunderous explosion rocked the ground and family members steadied each other as children cried hysterically.

"Help me! HELP ME!! SOMEONE," a woman further up ahead screamed as she held onto the blood puddle pooling underneath her. Gun fire erupted from somewhere on the street above sending the women and girls screaming as the falling glass showered them.

The grates above the canal rattled as more of the platforms appeared, the first two just a blur, then a third stopping halfway across

...and in a blinding spectral corona carved a path through the crowds trapped by the high walls. Yelps and shrieks turned to gurgles as collagen and flesh dissolved and burst into flames. Blood underwent a phase transition and someone's intestines erupted from their mouth in a red mist. Some were bisected as though by a master surgeon, others simply "popped". Mikkikizumi stood unflinchingly as the invisible beam suddenly veered towards those turning to flee- annihilating them- before finally dissipating.

Ribbons of translucent flesh hung in the air as a few of the victims crawled or rolled over before finally succumbing. A man engulfed in flames ran past screaming as the few remaining survivors alternatively cowered or ran away while the wounded groaned or played dead.

The thing seemingly hesitated for a moment before one of its bio-cameras caught a bullet, a viscous blue followed by the crack of tracers overhead as another burst of gunfire sounded from nearby.

Mikkikizumi stared as the thing forgot about them then whirled around and with a roar of auto-cannon fire moved against its assailant with lightning speed.

"Nyaa! NYYYAAA!!" She yelled out in the relative din, "NYAAA!!" picking her way through the dead and disoriented.

A dirty half-naked child blankly shook the contorted, charred body of her guardian as Mikkikizumi made her way out of the mouth of the tunnel, stepping over the now silent woman in the hijab.
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Biggles - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:51:53 EST doafeZse No.71042 Reply
>>70807
Dont ask me to expained eturnity for you.
Not god just moving foward with my time.

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