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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated March 22)
archetypes and dialogue types by Polly Fumbleluck - Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:51:46 EST ID:Y6GWRCoI No.70352 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Curious, is there a place where we can flow through different character styles of speech and personalities to discuss how to ease into that character and form it like an Archetype

I've been banned from a few websites for falling into a character inadvertently and pissing off people..so I'm looking for outlets, other than handwriting, just to practice the type of dialogue that may occur when in use
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Ebenezer Porryfoot - Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:58:30 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't "form" archetypes like that but if you want to practise in-character dialogue, find some role players. There are innumerable places online for role play gaming if you look for them.

Sidenote: this is only going to help you write unrealistic, flanderised characters for fantasy nonsense. The only real way to learn how different actual personalities speak and behave is to observe real people and pay attention to how they speak and behave until you can hear them independently in your mind's ear.
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Sophie Ginderdock - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 01:11:04 EST ID:k9TAbtTt No.70379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>70356
Yeah best I can think of is game like Neverwinter Nights 2 or something..

I guess one could try researching and/or brainstorming characteristics for a persona. Then try to assume that role for a paragraph for others to critique, eventually another persona could be sketched to interact and contrast the alternate persona.


Best torrent sites for books by David Gunnerdock - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 23:30:57 EST ID:ombRs0pw No.70346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Pdfs or whatever
Demonoid was my plug
thanks ty ty ty
plz help need books
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Jarvis Clecklewell - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:14:48 EST ID:Y/0CgIiO No.70347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>70346
Is that a pic for fags who read motivational books or something?


Cormas DeCarchon by Clara Duckshit - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 08:50:56 EST ID:8GEk/Nb2 No.70342 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Which ones going to die first? Which ones best, which ones worst? Which one has the best book?
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Albert Gimmlewot - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:54:11 EST ID:Y/0CgIiO No.70344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70342
I don't understand
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Simon Blecklekure - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:39:23 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70344
Would it help if you recognised the writers Pynchon, De Lillo and McCarthy?
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Sophie Ginderdock - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 00:59:06 EST ID:k9TAbtTt No.70378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70342
Don't know the names. What if you went more in depth about some their respective works?


Modern religous interpretations by Ebenezer Divingnog - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:17:33 EST ID:4vZzZP5I No.70132 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm looking for stuff on modern interpretations of religions and how they intermingle and carry over into each other. How mythology morphs in such cases as pagan Saturnalia translating over to Christmas. Maybe even breaking stuff like investigative religious journalism. I've always been interested in the subject but have done no reading on it. Specifically interested in Christianity but anything interesting on any religion in any time period is cool.
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Nathaniel Pickman - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:18:38 EST ID:k9TAbtTt No.70317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70157 his masks of god series is really good, albeit a little outdated now.

also this series on mythology: https://youtu.be/BLoOYuwMQC8
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Martha Buzzdock - Mon, 17 Sep 2018 18:12:51 EST ID:UEJcT2Pn No.70325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bart Ehrmann wrote a lot about different christian sects that existed at some point and were quite influential but died off.
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Ernest Socklenirk - Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:32:17 EST ID:pzzBCzyM No.70336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70132
There's this author called E.R. Dodds. He specialized on greek cultural history. He doesn't talk much about our present time, but he has this amazing book called "Greeks and the irrational" about the pagan, magic, mystic roots of greek culture. It quotes really obscure sources and gives a pretty good explanation of some greek cultural and psychological phenomenon. It's pretty well reviewed in the academic community. He also wrote a book on the socio-psychological consequences of the advent of early christianism in pagan cultures, it's called "Pagan and christian in the age of anxiety". I think it's a pretty good place if you want to go beyond scientific divulgation, but still want something sort of general and literary, and not some uninteligible academic mash up of ancient and modern languages intertwined from a thousand different sources.


What poem is this? by George Lightway - Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:17:50 EST ID:xYtXfnry No.70292 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just found this linked on a blog somewhere. Mixing is too low but it sounds like old-timey poetry. I can't find it anywhere, tho. Any idea what this is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJb3WEvjSos
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George Lightway - Thu, 23 Aug 2018 23:28:08 EST ID:xYtXfnry No.70293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtEAWUNBisY

Okay, now this is driving me nuts. Wtf is this?
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Phoebe Nabberstut - Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:52:37 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know exactly what it is because you posted it here and on the future's /lit/ at exactly the same time, minutes after it was uploaded.
I get that you want to share your work but it's pretty fucking shitty of you to lie about it. Why would you think that's going to make a good impression?


Free books? by Eugene Nuddlefield - Thu, 31 May 2018 15:25:09 EST ID:wMdoZpuZ No.70121 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't know if there are much in the world, but I was thinking people might post links here for free books (as in physical, of paper, made of dead trees, etc.; for ebooks there are plenty of places). Most of these might be religious, but that comes with the territory. Still, I feel a lot of them are essential for anyone aiming to understand human beings.

http://www.cpsglobal.org/content/order-free-quran-2
>quran

http://www.budaedu.org/en/book/
>buddhist literature
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James Cabberpotch - Fri, 03 Aug 2018 23:55:29 EST ID:UxAu2w7L No.70253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://libgen.io/ has tons of fucking shit. if u cant find something under the category ud assume it to be under try searching for it under sci-tech, lots of stuff is erroneously under there
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Hamilton Chizzleman - Sat, 04 Aug 2018 07:53:04 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70253
Why do you care considering that you can't even finish reading a sentence?
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Polly Shakefoot - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:38:25 EST ID:k+f+MG26 No.70288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First thing that comes to mind are public and university library's. I use http://www.gutenberg.org it has a wide variety of non copywrited works. Please enjoy.


Writers thread by Edward Hacklestock - Wed, 17 Feb 2016 20:22:13 EST ID:2cqnyO9u No.68150 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How is your writing going /lit/? Anyone here working on something or have any work they want to share? Not poetry, we have the OC Poems thread for that.

I am 2 acts done with a 3 act novel. I have written short stories before, and this is my first long endeavor. I had always lacked confidence, but one day, I suddenly stumbled upon the perfect horror novel just sitting in my mind. Like, it is literally the greatest horror story if this generation. It will go down as The Wire of horror stories for it's brutal look at reality at the bottom of the barrel. But it will also be like Trailer Park Boys and have a cast of lovable losers, who are down and out, living where every day feels like the end of the world, and having that corner of the ghetto become the backdrop for what will be the end of the world for real, with the local stoners and crackheads the last line of defense before an ancient evil reclaims the planet it once ruled a millennia ago. It is not a horror comedy like John Dies At The End, it is straight horror with some comedic moments the way an action movie can have good comedy. I know it will be an insta-classic and probably get a film adaption. As a long time 420channer, I will find some way to get it to you all for free after I find a publisher, since I know this site thrives on piracy, even if I have to pay them for digital downloads for all 3-5 regulars here. Drugs and the apocalypse, it should be right up most of /lit/s alley.
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Augustus Gerringfuck - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 19:48:25 EST ID:4G/pRGNZ No.70284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70283
What exactly were you trying to communicate with this?
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Ernest Crungerville - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 06:53:37 EST ID:Ivuktz9u No.70285 Report Quick Reply
>>70284
I'm an artist, I don't owe the public my private intentions. I could have either written the story purely for shock, or could have confessing all my darkest secrets from childhood. The world doesn't have the right to that answer. I just put stuff out there and hope someone responds to it. This one got a clear response.
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Barnaby Weddlepidging - Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:27:26 EST ID:4G/pRGNZ No.70286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70285
I see I'm not the first person to call you out for your edgy bullshit.



recccomendations please. by N7IX4 !!aUW3ymB7 - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 12:48:19 EST ID:S5Rv/Bzy No.69532 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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transgressive, psychedelic horror, post-apocalyptic, nihilistic, and existential literature reccomendations would be muchly appreciated. books or poetry. just need a break from dry research.
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Angus Brurringstit - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 23:33:21 EST ID:A/t5mkUq No.70143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
-The Foundation Pit
Maybe the darkest novel ever written.
-Anything by William Gaddis (esp. J R) and most things by Thomas Pynchon
hard to go wrong.
The Book of Disquiet
Mostly just the well-written journal of a sad loner
-The Third Policeman
IMO this one is very funny, but at least one person I lent it to didn't get it at all; YMMV. If you like this bizarre distinctly Irish lit and are up to a challenge, consider Beckett's Trilogoy.
-Petersburg
one of Nabokov's three "best books of the 20th century"; s'pretty good. From my sub-fluent awareness of Russian, this was probably better in the original, But it's still pretty great. You may be more drawn to his childhood/coming-of-age novel, Kotiv Letaev ("Flying Kitten"), which revolves around a curious little boy and can get a tad experimental with all the vivid imagination and how strongly it defines descriptions of events.
-Today I Wrote Nothing
Daniil Kharms compilation (the translation at least; can't say what it is in Russian). Not incredibly heavy as the others on my recs list, but it's fun and slots well enough into your preferences.
-White Noise
Can't speak for DeLillo's other stuff as I've not read it. WN is a solid novel that epitomizes American postmodernism without requiring 5-10 minutes to read a page like some others might.
-Borges's short stories, on the chance you haven't read them yet
eeeee
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Isabella Sevingchork - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 01:43:55 EST ID:2TDhwEbz No.70159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nausea - jean-paul sarte
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Isabella Clayfoot - Sun, 19 Aug 2018 22:40:32 EST ID:IoJZMcWv No.70279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>69532


Words as a Weapon by Jack Billingham - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 04:34:30 EST ID:7Df882Aq No.70126 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm working on a novel that I hope will induce the reader's worldview to permanently darken. While still being an engaging, realistic and enjoyable read, of course. I don't much trust this whole 'grimdark' label and if I wanted shock I'd read fan fiction.

But I'm having a hard time figuring out how this process of fucking up people's psyches will work. I'm quite desensitized; things don't really get to me anymore and haven't for some time. Bradbury could really get me down, and the bits I've read of Camus gave me a taste of the void. I need that man in my life for sure.

So I'm trying to draw from more negative, caustic literature. I plan on purchasing a copy of Carl Panzram's autobiography, and I have already found inspiration in the lyrics of bands like Dystopia and Spitboy, they really explore this sense of outraged disgust that I think can really wear you out morally.

I'm looking for things that aren't just for shock value, or just violence porn. I need an emotional punch, something that'll make the reader feel hatred, that will bother them and encourage them to set aside their personal values. What is this factor x that can induce compassion fatigue in even the casual reader? How do I use fiction to make people more selfish and cruel in their habits and thinking?

Please share any relevant experience you have towards this line of thinking and perhaps recommend any literature you think fits this bill.
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Isabella Fandock - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 06:44:29 EST ID:dGuMtlr0 No.70258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're still around...

Panzram - You're on the right track, that's an excellent start
Eric Harris's (Columbine shooter) writings
Christopher Browning - Ordinary Men
Iris Chang - The Rape of Nanking
Peter Williams - Unit 731
Dostoevsky - Crime and Punishment (also Notes from Underground would be good also)
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Samuel Drocklefoot - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 13:49:16 EST ID:wkdzb9wX No.70259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_End_of_the_Night
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Eliza Brookforth - Sun, 19 Aug 2018 10:42:23 EST ID:IoJZMcWv No.70276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>70126
Dystopia definitely makes me fucking hate being human sometimes.


Tao Lin Trip by Henry Fabbertudge - Sat, 18 Aug 2018 00:28:47 EST ID:vANo5LJY No.70269 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone have a pdf?
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Betsy Hesslefork - Sat, 18 Aug 2018 00:48:56 EST ID:4vZzZP5I No.70270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://douploads.com/9zxmy2naka78
I'm sure you can convert it
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James Gemblemere - Sat, 18 Aug 2018 20:06:09 EST ID:poakUaRE No.70273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70270
Brosef thank you so much. I had a feeling someonewould come through on here. You don't really know how happy this has made me thank you!!!
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Cyril Blammerhet - Sun, 19 Aug 2018 09:58:43 EST ID:d7Oa1Npe No.70275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Since OP got a happy ending, maybe someone will have the /psy/ book I've been looking all over for, pic related.


Can I put atropine eye drop s in my eyes eagerly by Walter Giffingfuck - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:36:06 EST ID:hKKAmGXs No.70202 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Safely*
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Hugh Siddlestit - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:47:28 EST ID:P6n/+9ei No.70209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i predict intense burning and redness. do it for our amusement and report back what happens


bible by Alice Findlehall - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 11:07:55 EST ID:HDHCXJ5a No.69850 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there a readable version of the bible th
at also is somewhat correct in it's translation?
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George Pockspear - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:42:23 EST ID:V40lkqfw No.70167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://skepticsannotatedbible.com all you need to read are the annotations to get the gist
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Buck Strickland - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 01:12:27 EST ID:OULk0ORn No.70196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>69850
just know what you're looking for when you open a Bible. I like the King James Bible, it's all fuckin fire and brimstone and shit. Idk what you mean by correct in it's translation. For the first few centuries of Christianity everybody was convinced Jesus would come back any day now so nobody bothered to write things down. Anything you find is gonna be translated from Aramaic to Greek at the very least, Western Bibles then go from Greek to Latin to whatever language you get the final translation to. You want the old testament stuff, you should look into translations of the Torah. KJB does fine for me.
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Thomas Puffingstitch - Mon, 02 Jul 2018 21:02:53 EST ID:JbMBxovX No.70203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70196
it is like the game "telephone", where the first person's message is garbled by the time it goes down the line to the last person. and then u throw in people in the game who intentionally garble the message for whatever reason

would u stake ur soul on that message, hell no lol


Help? by Ian Huddlesut - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:29:28 EST ID:JRP9dMan No.70177 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just started to read The Idiot by Fyodor Dostoyevsky. It takes place during 1868 in Petersburg. I don't know anything about that area or point in history and or where to start with the research required for me to fully appreciate it. I need guidance on how to choose what is most relevant to find out.
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Fuck Hushfuck - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 12:54:10 EST ID:P6n/+9ei No.70188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
idk nigga how about russian history from 1800 to the present thats where i would start
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Nicholas Chesslestet - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 22:22:10 EST ID:JbMBxovX No.70190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
go wit the flo, read it like whatever
we full appreciate when we just reading
'whatever ok this is happening'
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Wesley Sommlelock - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 17:07:14 EST ID:pzzBCzyM No.70192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70177
St Petersburg has always been sort of the cultural center of Russia (as opposed to Moscow, that's rather more an economical/political center), slavery was ending right around that period, utopian socialism (Fourier) was on vogue in Russia, Dostoievski had gotten out of jail in Siberia shortly before righting this novel, french cultural influence over the educated people was also a big thing, while the working/lower class and specially those who lived far from the city were still submerged in middleage-ish oscurantism and deep orthodox christian beliefs (note how many of higher class characters in dostoievski's novels speak french. Even Dostoievski himself started working as a translator, and translated Balzac to russian). Dostoievski speaks about the unfathomable abyss that rises between these two classes.

The Possesed is a really great book by Dostoievski that tells the political climate of Russia in that period. You could read St Petersburg's stories by Gogol, a short book that was very influential for Dostoievski. Lermontov is also a key author. Obvioulsy Pushkin as well, allthough he's a little bit more boring imo. Lev Shestov is a good philosopher if you want to get into Dostoievski's philosophy. The first half of Notes from the underground also has a pretty explicit take on dostoievski's own philosophy. Bajtin also has a really good book on Dostoievski.


poems that aren't boring/don't suck by Henry Gonnerbutch - Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:44:12 EST ID:u8vwe0Ag No.70171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't normally read/enjoy poems but I just read this from an author I like a lot and was blown away
https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/16970664-to-my-friend
If more poems were like this, I'd actually read poetry. Anyone have any trippy/similar poems to recommend?
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Nell Drongersteg - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 10:14:53 EST ID:ylxQEmun No.70174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>70173
So you do read poetry.
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Simon Gettingworth - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 22:33:54 EST ID:y06YYraG No.70178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
check out The Cinnamon Peeler by Ondaatje. He's a great poet imo
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Augustus Pickspear - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 04:08:16 EST ID:4vZzZP5I No.70186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I enjoyed this poem that the character Bee wrote in Sirens of Titan by Kurt Vonnegut.

Break every link with air and mist,
Seal every open vent;
Make throat as tight as miser's fist,
Keep life within you pent.
Breathe out, breathe in, no more, no more,
For breathing's for the meek;
And when in deathly space we soar,
Be careful not to speak.
If you with grief or joy are rapt,
Just signal with a tear;
To soul and heart within you trapped
Add speech and atmosphere.
Every man's an island as in lifeless space we roam.
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