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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

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Not getting it done.

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- Mon, 16 Sep 2019 00:07:13 EST 6FD1tcde No.455572
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So I just spent the last few hours emptying my old tracks from my loopers into my laptop, started organizing the files, and updated the firmware on my loopers so I could actually make some new music like I wanted. But now I'm sitting on here instead of actually doing it.

Discipline and creativity are two integral parts to making art, but at times they seem to be standing in direct opposition to each other. So I was wondering how you guys merge these two seemingly foreign (to each other anyways) concepts and what strategies do you use to get over that hill of procrastination that happens between you wanting to create, and actually getting off your ass to do it.

>pic related, it's half of my super loop rig (well the picture isn't one I took of my actual looper but it's the model I have)
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Clara Smalldale - Tue, 24 Sep 2019 18:37:50 EST 6FD1tcde No.455606 Reply
>it is something you want' to do not have' to do

That is not true my friend. There is a fragment of the ineffable inside me and I can only begin to express it through a series of sound and light that I am not quite skilled enough to make, yet. I do have to do this. I'll get there someday, I just gotta keep up with practice. Sometimes I get distracted talking to y'all beautiful people around here when I should be practicing my shit.

I mostly meant it as a general music related procrastination thread though, I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets distracted when working on a track.
AC !QqL8nX9URE - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 18:17:34 EST C85r8fP8 No.455609 Reply
I haves about 300 loops ive made, and only about 40 tracks, with maybe 5 mixed to master?

I just get distracted by fucking with other stuff in my DAW
Simon Trotdock - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 01:47:21 EST 6FD1tcde No.455610 Reply
I'm sitting at 200 right now with maybe about 25 tracks, and 6 or 7 mixed to master. I recently got some new equipment to so I've been learning the ins and outs of that instead of creating things I want to save, but I think it's time to get back to recording real stuff. My last loop felt really good and it's been a minute since that happened.

Check out Cow Tools

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- Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:31:54 EST 0E2zvWFC No.455561
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Check out Cow Tools

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tc0FD5tSsQ&list=OLAK5uy_kyrd-GvdgCNmRQxfLLXgAmazdPp6H7r7A&index=2




Music streaming is bullshit

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- Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:51:50 EST R3KZddTn No.455345
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So how to fix it? What if we create a multicasting network that works exactly like broadcast radio, except instead of IP addresses, we have virtual frequencies? We then give people a randomized name like the old stations, hook it up everywhere, and make it the standardized way to broadcast music. It's like the old radio model on the new streaming model except it's multicast, so no custom streams, and that's the point. When things are algorithmically engineered the way they think you want, you get pidgeonholed and stagnated into the musical hole that they think they can use to make money off of you.

If we do it this way, you can still have custom private streams like Spotify, but we essentially revive the old-school radio network and expand it to make advertisers have to compete for popular stations instead of having stations have to suck the dick of advertisers just to make ends meet.
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Wesley Gellyworth - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:10:21 EST 9RtL9vxW No.455361 Reply
>What if we create a multicasting network that works exactly like broadcast radio
I think you should make this thread in /prog/ or at least /tech/

afik multicast routing is not available for any pleb over the regular Internet. Tech giants use it over their own network to distribute content across their own networks.
Multicast routing is an incredible DDOS vector so in order for you to use it you have to own the network.
If you really want to do it you may try contacting a community mesh network in your area.
David Herryhall - Tue, 27 Aug 2019 17:10:40 EST vq0qS9I6 No.455482 Reply
you're absolutely right, I thought it was the future, I drank the koolaid, convenient and you discover so much new music i thought, but now in the past couple months a dozen or so bands I really like got taken off streaming services because of licensing bullshit

and the irony that latest one was Gang of fucking Four is palpable, fuck those sell-outs

holy shit fuck streaming I'm done, back to private trackers for me, idk where to even start since I haven't done this shit since what.cd days but god damn I'm buying a 10 terabyte hard drive and starting immediately, they almost got me to obey the law for convenience's sake but then they went and ruined it

Why am I like this

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- Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:54:13 EST pwfsetJ7 No.455519
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So I'm a tasteless piece of shit and made another unnecessary Death Grips Mashups, using Tobacco's Fantasy Trash Wave and DG's Klink.

I used to make music regularly and was big into production but kinda gave up on the dream and havent touched anything in like 8 years and kinda felt that old itch to do something so I took the easy road did an awful mashup to get warmed up again.

It still needs some work I can only imagine but I've heard 5 million times while working on it and can't get outside of my repetition bias. There's a few tempo problems here and there that I'll find eventually but here, take this, it's not safe to go alone.


H.E.A.T - Live at Sweden Rock Festival (lossless, 2019)

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- Fri, 30 Aug 2019 06:22:02 EST Iazys8lX No.455490
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DOWNLOAD FREE - Hard Rock H.E.A.T - Live at Sweden Rock Festival (lossless, 2019)

01. Bastard of Society (4:58)
02. Late Night Lady (3:33)
03. Mannequin Show (3:50)
04. Redefined (4:24)
05. Heartbreaker (4:18)
06. Shit City (5:14)
07. Beg Beg Beg (7:51)
08. Tearing Down the Walls (4:36)
09. Eye of the Storm (3:39)
10. Emergency (5:14)
11. Inferno (4:45)
12. Living on the Run (5:24)
13. A Shot at Redemption (4:04)
Albert Bleblingwater - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 04:50:33 EST 6FD1tcde No.455501 Reply
you're not supposed to put the length of each track down you're supposed to put the start time in the file bro you gotta learn how to setlist better

Linkin Park - 100% Linkin Park (2019)

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- Fri, 30 Aug 2019 07:06:05 EST ppP8fzWv No.455494
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01 - Numb
02 - In The End
03 - Heavy (Feat. Kiiara)
04 - Faint
05 - Talking To Myself
06 - What I've Done
07 - Breaking The Habit
08 - Izzo / In The End
09 - Crawling
10 - Given Up
11 - New Divide
12 - Somewhere I Belong
13 - Burn It Down
14 - A Place For My Head
15 - The Catalyst
16 - Leave Out All The Rest
17 - A Light That Never Comes
18 - Papercut
19 - From The Inside
20 - Shadow Of The Day
21 - One Step Closer
22 - Until It's Gone
23 - Good Goodbye (Feat. Pusha T And Stormzy)
24 - Hands Held High
25 - Burning In The Skies
26 - Jigga What / Faint
27 - Don't Stay
28 - Guilty All The Same (Feat. Rakim)
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Hunting for High Note Timbre

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- Thu, 29 Aug 2019 03:01:10 EST lvVb90yU No.455486
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So, I am a guitarist, and have a sound I’m gunning for. I can do various shit on the low and mid end to various effects but want a harsher sound for the high end. Specifically, I’m looking for something like the edge that Homme’s high notes have in his Sons of Kyuss recording - think Deadly Kiss, or the end of King.

Does anyone have any earthly idea what equipment he used at the time, or a reasonable substitute? I know he has used the Ovation Ultra GP as his primary guitar practically forever, and have found a pickup that’s very similar to the GP’s neck pickup, but it still doesn’t have the edge to the high end that I’m looking for. I know that he changed his setup substantially enough for the rest of his time with Kyuss that later albums don’t have the same sound, and that this was before he used Tube Works for everything.

Unfortunately, most people imitating Homme’s sound are going for either his later Kyuss albums or his work with different bands, and while I’ve been going through live footage most of this is also from much later.

So, does anyone know what equipment was used, or a way to effectively imitate this sound? Again, it doesn’t matter to me whether or not the rest is close so long as I get those piercing high notes.

Poseurship and older women

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- Sun, 25 Aug 2019 05:13:36 EST R3KZddTn No.455464
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So, you know that kind of cool chick who is into the same music as you, right? And she's just a little bit older but quizzes you down. You know all the albums and music better than you, but she's gone on the tours and is super fucking into it and tries to show you up.

Do you bother with it or just let them be in superior in fandom? Is this some kind of test? Suppose she's hooked up but knows you have options, too. Should you bother with this dance, or this too high school?
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Fanny Gebblefuck - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 16:00:50 EST C+r/I+Ys No.455479 Reply

The key is to release sicker beats than her while becoming someone in your local music community that everyone knows.
Caroline Grimspear - Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:03:52 EST gp/HMcso No.455485 Reply
She wants you to taste all her power through licking her asshole

What songs discribe your general outlook on life or system of beliefs?

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- Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:08:10 EST vq0qS9I6 No.455092
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Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion

The Velvet Underground - Heroin

Gang of Four - Natural's Not in It

13th Floor Elevators - Thru The Rhythm

Happy Mondays - 24 Hour Party People
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Angus Chunkinstot - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 19:53:14 EST 6FD1tcde No.455469 Reply
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I've always been way more of a PtB guy than an AJJ guy

Drum Sampling on Roland Kit (dnb & breakcore purposes)

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!cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 19:56:11 EST kBpb+k8N No.455470
File: 1566777371243.webm [mp4] -(8572656B / 8.18MB, 853x480) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Drum Sampling on Roland Kit (dnb & breakcore purposes)
I've decided to discuss what I'm doing here in detail for a few reasons. First, just bouncing ideas off people and getting feedback might help me improve my process here. Second, this board needs more hardware discussion so I'm gonna do my best to contribute what I consider interesting. As some /m/ users may know I've been using a Roland TD-25k drum kit as a MIDI controller in Ableton, using the built in drum rack to handle my samples. At this point in time I've become pretty comfortable using a drum kit in this way now, but there are still some issues I'd like to deal with at some point whenever I can. Anyone experienced with sampling breaks is going to understand some of the subtleties a lot better here, and that's important.

Before I go into detail, I'm going to mention the two main goals here:
  1. to replicate the sound of machine-made amen sampling exactly.
  2. to organize everything in such a way that I can drum normally the way you'd expect to play on a drum kit.

Right now, I'm focusing on breakbeats. Slicing break samples and playing them, and until I perfect my method or fine tune it enough to where I'm comfortable, I'm just going to be using the Amen Break. The drum kit itself has separate midi note inputs for each drum. All the rims for the snare and toms are their own separate pads. The edge and bow of the cymbals are different individual triggers as well, and the bell on the ride is also its own. They're all perceived by Ableton as midi note data, however it does recognize the hi-hat pedal as something that changes in value. Also, the rim on the snare recognizes a harder hit as a different input than a softer hit. But for now, I have the soft and hard hits triggering the same sample.

In the webm I demonstrate what samples I have assigned to each pad. In this particular instance, the open hat shares the same sample as the ride cymbal's bell, and the closed hat shares the same sample as the ride cymbal's bow. The bell sounding SAMPLE is actually on the bow of the crash cymbal right now. Also, since i'm focusing on intense dnb style amen break jams, I'm not even worried about the sound of a closed hihat now. There is no "closed hat" sounding sample with this project here.

Now this is where the particular familiarity with slicing breakbeat samples gets important. So, let's say you've got your preferred drum sampler out, and your individual amen slices assigned. Typically, in my experience, there isn't really a clean kick sample. The kick always has the cymbal sound along with it. This was all fine when I was just programming beats or playing them with one hand on an MPD18 controller. But now it's different: see goal #2. So, often, you will hear a cymbal that sounds slightly different when the kick drum is hit then moments where only the cymbal is being hit. Really hoping you guys are seeing what I'm getting at here. Another thing is, you'll typically have your main snare sound, and then the tiny snare sound that gets hit on the off beats / upbeats / whatever.

So, with the kick, I don't want my kick drum to trigger a cymbal sound along with it. Why? Reference goal #2. So what i've done is assigned the cymbal sound that's meant to go with the kick drum sample onto the open hat pad (and also the ride bell). Then the normal cymbal sound on the closed hat pad (and the ride bow). The reason I have the ride cymbal replicating the hi hats is so when I'm using my left foot to control effects, I don't need it for the alternating cymbal sound since i can use the ride.
Now, with the snare, I have the main snare sample on the main pad of the snare, and the tiny softer snare sample on the rim of the snare.
I'm comfortable with the balance I've struck with the hi hat cymbal sample situation. However, I would like it if Icould have the snare trigger a different sample if struck under a certain velocity so that soft hits = tiny sample and harder hits = main snare sample. The snare's rim acts like this, but the main pad does not.

The other thing is, I have these samples (especially the cymbal samples) set not to playback on top of each other. So if I hit the hi-hat, that sample won't continue to ring on once i hit the hi-hat again. Why? See goal #1

I can also use the hi-hat pedal to control the sample volume, so when I close the pedal, it turns down the volume of t…
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 20:07:17 EST kBpb+k8N No.455471 Reply
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Another issue with this is you'll often hear a kick & cymbal sound, often in place of when you might hit the kick and the crash cymbal in normal drums, in dnb. And this usually is the length of two hits because it's really probably just the kick & the hi-hat, and then the hi-hat again. An example of what i'm talking about is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anu_6OnC500 Basically every time I hit the kick and cymbal at the beginning of each beat. I had it so hitting the ride cymbal edge triggers the cymbal sound and then the other cymbal sound right after that. But that defeats goal #2.

So I tried it a different way here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWy5BrBiwFo
at 1:51 I hit the ride cymbal for the first cymbal sample, then the open hi hat for the second sample. It was definitely a nice step forward for what I'm trying to accomplish, but I really got what I was going for down when I did what I'm doing in the first OP webm, with the alternating open and closed cymbals.

Also here is the MIDI controller foot pedalboard that I use to adjust effects paramaters while drumming. Mainly filter sweeps on the expression pedal, but also using the 4 buttons to toggle effects on/off, or hold them down for certain effects and deactivating said effects when I let go of the button. It's a Line 6 FBV MkII
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 20:23:30 EST kBpb+k8N No.455472 Reply
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This is what the drum kit looks like in Ableton in case it helps of if anyone's curious.
Also: here's an older track I did with the amen break https://therm0ptic.bandcamp.com/track/grio
It was my first real, complete try. From a sampling standpoint and from the standpoint of goal 1, it sucks ass, while completely working in line with goal 2.
In this track, and the track "nothing ever works" from the previous post, I used the toms to trigger samples of the Amen's snare but in different pitches. In the Dark Souls track, I just assigned distorted tom samples to the tom pads. Long term, i'm not sure what I would do with the toms on a regular basis, but I've enjoyed doing both depending on the song.

Also, eventually what I would like to do is use the pedalboard to switch between various sets of samples (or various virtual drum kits). That way I can use my foot to fluently switch between different sounding kits for fills, as is common with dnb. I've done this before but not really for any completed tracks, and it was way back when I hadn't had as good of an understanding on how to do this as I do now.

Anyway, that's all i can think of for now. Hope this is insight into my process is interesting and maybe some fellow breakbeat samplers have something interesting to say, ask, or help me with.

For reference, here's the kind of shit I listen to within this realm of music, so you have an idea where I'm coming from in my head: https://youtu.be/TDRL_fzfrB0?t=149

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