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- Fri, 15 May 2020 01:22:33 EST YTv4gwU2 No.456616
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I didn't see a thread like this up, I wrote this for a class and I was wanting to see what everyone else has to say about their favorite (or least favorite) music

The song Tarred and Feathered by the band Cardiacs is one of my favorite pieces of modern art music. With the radically contemporary composition, it's easy to see the lyrics as either gibberish or perhaps more about the sounds of the words than the words themselves, such as in The Velvet Underground's The Black Angel's Death Song. I think, however, that the lyrics were written very intentionally and what follows is my interpretation of them.

Essentially, I see it as a reaction to the absurdity of existence. Or perhaps an existential crisis in song form. "I find I understand the rules / but cannot find the reasons" I related to the experience of trying to find life's answers through rational means which became the dominant belief in the West post-Enlightenment.

In my own search for truth, I initially turned to science and reason and adopted a belief in materialism, but slowly I found that as I learned more and more and developed a greater understanding of the apparent world, there was this gnawing uncertainty about reality and the "why" questions in life. The Peter Hammill song "Four Pails" I find also relates this experience fairly well, beginning with the lines:

Four pails of water and a bag full of salts.
That is all we are, that is all a man comprises,
Chemicals alone, with no spirit, soul or ghost -
Nothing so bizarre.

but ending with:

Now that sounds so odd...
Once I would have preached it brightly.
Now questions appear I rationally can't ignore...
Nothingness or God,
Which of them seems more unlikely?

But I digress. "Time is of the essence shall I put up some resistance?". That the grains of sand will forever continue to pour through the hourglass seems now to me to be the only thing in life that's certain, in this span of time is it even worth it to ask these questions?

Human beings are unique among animals in having been "Cursed with the awareness of their own existence". Animals exist solely in the present. They don't wonder where they came from or where they're going, or what it means to be a "good" animal. They don't even have a concept of their own mortality. It's actually true that some more advanced species of animals such as elephants and some birds do mourn their dead, but as of yet I don't think that they make the leap from this into recognizing that one day it will also happen to them. In essence what is affecting them is the absence of a loved one, which is experienced in the present.

"Time tends to pass by quicker than the nail" again reiterates the distress that the passing of times causes us as beings who aware that one day we will no longer be. "That boxes me together, forever it forms the seal" is a bit more vague, but I see it also as reiterating that thesis.

Perhaps the most significant question of philosophy or at least one of them, in my opinion, is: "Is the knowledge of our own existence real?". Because if we doubt something so fundamental, how can we possibly move on from that single question? Perhaps one could take a solipsistic approach and believe that they are the only beings they can be sure to exist, but what makes them so sure? I think in this most fundamental doubt, however, also lies the answer. In Tolstoy's writing about his own quest for meaning, he writes that in the most desperate and confused time in his life, wherein he began to contemplate suicide as the only rational reaction to the inherent absurdity of life, he was ultimately stopped by a gnawing doubt about the certainty of his conclusion that life was senseless and meaningless, if nothing else could be sure.

I see perhaps a similar idea in one of the final lines "Now all I have to do is hide my body in the ground". One could see this one of two ways. One, relating the idea that often times it seems like the only winning move is not to play, that suicide is the only rational thing one can do in the face of the absurdity of life. The other and the one I'm more inclined to agree with at this point in my life is that life is just a waiting game until the end, however this should lead one not to cut it short but to only live in it, as animals do. Richard Rorty in his article "The World Well Lost" said something along the lines of: "Any problem that's been around for 2500 years and for which we still don't have a solution, the correct response is: 'I don't care'". Echoed by many, many other thinkers of the mid to late 20th century from John Cage, "No why. Just here.", to Wittgenstein: "Nothing is hidden! Everything is open to view!"
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William Bommlenud - Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:04:47 EST LdiNrVWt No.456804 Reply
>>456802
I wish i wasnt a pos so i can read this thread fully and provide constructive opinons Tldr°
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Polly Semblehuck - Wed, 24 Jun 2020 19:30:04 EST YTv4gwU2 No.456806 Reply
>>456804
I think everyone has their own interests in life and you can't be faulted for what you are and are not motivated to do. This was for a 400 level class in an obscure subject that most people don't give a shit about which I'm also majoring in. If you're interested in this sort of thing I can maybe give you some ideas for good places to start, but philosophy tends to be something you kind of absorb over time and not really a subject that has a solid progression like math or the sciences.

At this point in time I am personally a fan of Wittgentstein, Pyrrho, Kant, Hegel, Derrida, Foucault, Deluze, and Sartre among others. I think a great starting point would be to find a person whose ideas kind of just stand out to you as interesting or that make sense and then working backwards, looking at opposing views, etc.

I tend to prefer to listen to lectures as opposed to reading to get an overview so that's what I'm most familiar with. If anywhere I would start with this series since he gives a good run down of kind of where contemporary philosophy is at without the need for any prior knowledge. I think you can come into them completely cold and still get a lot out of them, even if you've never had to opportunity to learn some of the things he references. He is probably the best lecturer I know of in terms of his ability to speak to the most people, he's very unpretentious and talks to you kind of like a crazy uncle would. His accent is also amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wetwETy4u0&list=PLA34681B9BE88F5AA

These are some good channels that I think have pretty in-depth and very entertaining video essays but again don't require a whole lot of prior knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkS_HP3m9NXOgswVAKbMeJQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybBViio_TH_uiFFDJuz5tg
https://www.youtube.com/user/thephilosophytube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSkzHxIcfoEr69MWBdo0ppg
https://www.youtube.com/user/ContraPoints

These are good archives of old documentaries and lectures but I think Philosophy Overdose also features a very small amount of some dubious IDW shit so I guess do a bit of research on who's talking in them and a bit of soul searching and come to your own conclusions about whether you agree with them or not:

https://www.youtube.com/user/shinobirastafari
https://www.youtube.com/user/soultorment27
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Nigel Gimmerson - Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:08:08 EST j2rGQR3k No.456807 Reply
>>456806
dope yea i rather listen subconsciously to knowledge than reading lengthy ideologies. ill take a gander,

sad shit

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- Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:00:52 EST /W4wq3vg No.453388
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Can you post sad stuff here? Sad songs ITT.
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Walter Shakewell - Wed, 27 May 2020 00:41:02 EST zXPV/kFo No.456690 Reply
>>453388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiLYto-PhRY&app=desktop&persist_app=1
It's weird yet fitting, really: I had a friend, from 2011 to 2018 who constantly expressed his manic depressive pain through angrily loquacious journals.
I'm pretty sure I became him after we stopped talking to each other due to the weight of the world crushing us both to death on an emotional level. :(
Oh and this song has to do with someone else who is no longer worth the heartache, whether I feel it against my will anyway or not. -_-

Thoughts on my music video?

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- Fri, 19 Jun 2020 00:51:25 EST gcApo2VQ No.456781
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I'd really like to hear what you guys have to say about my new music video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE6MrVoxcRE

Also post your own music videos.
Discuss :)
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Shit Pittshaw - Fri, 19 Jun 2020 03:05:27 EST gcApo2VQ No.456785 Reply
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thank you :] i tried to stabilize it in video editor. oopsy daisies

New album

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- Wed, 17 Jun 2020 18:01:07 EST zYF9sudt No.456776
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New dungeon synth album, whole album tells a story so listen in order.https://soundcloud.com/svartsolace/sets/runes-of-a-castle-keep
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Polly Gillerworth - Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:14:15 EST rihcEXUc No.456777 Reply
>>456776
There is a soundcloud thread on the front page and if you weren't a selfish driveby spammer you'd have spotted it. So post there nb

current song/current mood

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- Tue, 12 Nov 2019 03:49:42 EST DpH/kh0H No.455861
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skxi4NTqFlw

Spent 5 days in detox for benzos and alcohol, blew a .45 and had 12mg of xanax in my system, if I wasn't taken to the ER every doctor there told me I would've died. Apparently I told them it was a suicide attempt, so I spent 7 days after that in in-patient, which I probably needed because had they released me then I would've relapsed with-in an hour, but they gave me Ativan the whole time to taper me off and now I'm 1 day into a partial hospitalization program.

I had no cravings and was resolved to kick it for good, then everything kept pouring back into my mind, all the memories all the good times, all the drugs, the best days of my life spent high, nodding, tripping, and rolling with people I'll never see again, some of whom died, and that along with withdrawal and mania keeping me up at night to the point I sleep a few hours every other night, I want to use more than I ever have. The only reason I didn't today was because there was 6 inches of snow and I'd have to walk to meet the man.

It really is true that once a junky always a junky. I know I'll relapse. And even if I don't, I can be in recovery the rest of my life and never truly kick it. It'll always be looming over me. You can't unring the bell.

>I have made the big decision
>I'm gonna try to nullify my life
>Cause when the blood begins to flow
>When it shoots up the droppers neck
>When I'm closing in on death
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Henry Blobblefoot - Sat, 23 May 2020 02:02:07 EST YTv4gwU2 No.456671 Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyMm4rJemtI

i lapsed yesterday, and as ashamed as i am the real thing that gets me is how terrifying it is that this can just happen at any time, I had been clean almost half a year and then all of us sudden it was like i was going off an old script, for no particular reason other than maybe thinking about the past fondly i just go out and use like nothing ever happened, like I haven't OD'd 3 times, admitted 5 times to psych and been to A&E for related accidents almost a dozen times

i'm really glad to say it didn't lead to a full relapse, I have no desire to go back to the way I was, but it's scary to think that at any moment i could, but i do have to balance out not downplaying it or minimizing it with not beating myself up over it, because then you start thinking well fuck it i'm such a bad person i might as well just give up giving up

PUNK

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 12:11:40 EST HdMZmDt1 No.453736
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Made this punk primer:

  1. Proto-Punk (Stooges, New York Dolls, MC5)
  2. NYC Punk/No Wave (Ramones, Talking Heads, The Dictators, Dead Boys, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Lizzy Mercier Descloux, James Chance, Suicide, Jim Carroll)
  3. London Punk (The Clash, The Jam, Sex Pistols, The Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex)
  4. LA Punk (Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Christian Death, TSOL)
  5. Oi! (Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects)
  6. Anarcho-Punk (Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans)
  7. Early Hardcore (Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits)
  8. UK82 (Chaos UK, The Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, One Way System, Anti-Nowhere League)
  9. Psychobilly (The Cramps, Meteors)
  10. Crust Punk (Discharge, Amebix, Anti Cimex, Extreme Noise Terror, GISM, Sore Throat, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, From Ashes Rise, Deviated Instinct, Nausea)
  11. Straight Edge (Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7 Seconds, Have Heart)
  12. Ska Punk (Specials, Operation Ivy, Madness, Streetlight Manifesto, Choking Victim)
  13. Post-Hardcore (Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, Planes Mistaken for Stars, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré)
  14. Emocore (Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music)
  15. Crossover Thrash (DRI, Gang Green, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball)
  16. Pop Punk (Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Ergs, PUP, Thermals)
  17. Queercore/Riot Grrrl (Pansy Division, Limp Wrist, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch)
  18. Garage Punk (New Bomb Turks, Mummies, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards)
  19. Metalcore (Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis, Terror)
  20. Skramz (Portraits of Past, Ampere, Gospel, Orchid, Pg.99, Loma Prieta)
  21. Powerviolence (Despise You, Infest, Nails, SPAZZ)
  22. Digital Hardcore (Atari Teenage Riot)
  23. Folk Punk (Days N Daze, Rail Yard Ghosts, Blackbird Raum, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me!)
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Nicholas Purringham - Fri, 12 Jun 2020 23:38:11 EST I8qJoJnT No.456763 Reply
Proto-Punk: Stooges, NY Dolls, MC5
NY Punk/No Wave: Ramones, Dictators, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Rosa Yemen, James Chance, Suicide, Cramps, Dead Boys
UK Punk: Clash, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex, UK Subs, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks, Stranglers
LA Punk: Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Dickies, Social Distortion, Bad Religion, Flipper
Oi: Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects
Post-Punk: Joy Division, Gang of Four, Pop Group, Chameleons, Killing Joke, PiL, Wire, Slits, Fall, Mekons
Anarcho-Punk: Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans
Hardcore: Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits, Adolescents, DOA
UK82: Chaos UK, Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, GBH, Anti-Nowhere League
Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, TSOL
Crust: Discharge, Amebix, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, Deviated Instinct, Nausea, Martyrdöd, Anti Cimex, GISM
Straight Edge: Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7Seconds, Have Heart, Bane, Verse
Grindcore: Napalm Death, Carcass, Nasum, Brutal Truth, Discordance Axis
Ska Punk: Specials, Operation Ivy, Choking Victim
Post-Hardcore: Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré, Drive Like Jehu, NoMeansNo, Naked Raygun
Emocore: Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music, Dag Nasty
Crossover Thrash: DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball, Suicidal Tendencies
Pop Punk: Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Thermals, Leatherface
Queercore/Riot Grrrl: Pansy Division, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch
Garage Punk: New Bomb Turks, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards, Wipers, Oblivians
Metalcore: Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis
Skramz: Portraits of Past, Orchid, Pg.99, Saetia, Daïtro
Powerviolence: Despise You, SPAZZ, Charles Bronson, Man Is the Bastard
Folk Punk: Days N Daze, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me
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Nicholas Purringham - Fri, 12 Jun 2020 23:50:52 EST I8qJoJnT No.456764 Reply
Proto-Punk: Stooges, NY Dolls, MC5
NY Punk/No Wave: Ramones, Dictators, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Rosa Yemen, James Chance, Suicide, Cramps, Dead Boys
UK Punk: Clash, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex, UK Subs, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks, Stranglers
LA Punk: Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Dickies, Social Distortion, Bad Religion, Flipper
Oi: Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects
Post-Punk: Joy Division, Gang of Four, Pop Group, Chameleons, Killing Joke, PiL, Wire, Slits, Fall, Mekons
Anarcho-Punk: Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans
Hardcore: Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits, Adolescents, DOA
UK82: Chaos UK, Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, GBH, Anti-Nowhere League
Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, TSOL
Crust: Discharge, Amebix, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, Deviated Instinct, Nausea, Martyrdöd, Anti Cimex, GISM
Straight Edge: Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7Seconds, Have Heart, Bane, Verse
Grindcore: Napalm Death, Carcass, Nasum, Brutal Truth, Discordance Axis
Ska Punk: Specials, Operation Ivy, Choking Victim
Post-Hardcore: Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré, Drive Like Jehu, Naked Raygun
Emocore: Rites of Spring, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music, Dag Nasty
Crossover Thrash: DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball, Suicidal Tendencies, Agnostic Front
Pop Punk: Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Thermals, Leatherface
Queercore/Riot Grrrl: Pansy Division, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch
Garage Punk: New Bomb Turks, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards, Wipers, Oblivians
Metalcore: Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis
Skramz: Portraits of Past, Orchid, Pg.99, Saetia, Daïtro
Powerviolence: Despise You, SPAZZ, Charles Bronson, Man Is the Bastard
Folk Punk: Days N Daze, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me
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Doris Worthingwater - Sat, 13 Jun 2020 14:11:52 EST v+mtX6Po No.456765 Reply
Missing Doom under crust

pork roll egg and cheese

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- Wed, 03 Jun 2020 23:25:48 EST 8quai2Pa No.456714
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ween thread?
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Eddy Dingle - Sat, 06 Jun 2020 03:54:26 EST mRMrzOOn No.456739 Reply
>>456714
whats your favorite album, OP? (or anyone else)
mine is probably a tie between pure guava and the pod
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Charlotte Nammlecherk - Fri, 12 Jun 2020 04:42:12 EST Pl9M3IRP No.456762 Reply
>>456739
The Pod is amazing. I'm a big Chocolate and Cheese fan, myself

Recent lit listening songs

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- Sun, 22 Mar 2020 19:21:40 EST miWx6JYz No.456404
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Of current. Any you'd like to share?

https://youtu.be/mLFRNoOo_O4

Thank you, stay safe.
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- Sat, 04 May 2019 17:18:26 EST OF0cmyiA No.454906
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Post songs of triumph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOzGHqs9bRM

https://youtu.be/EbAHpA-H17w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVqAdIMQZlk
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albums are cancer in 2020 - no art.

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- Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:07:37 EST 6mH3u5I0 No.456201
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what happened to the days where albums would have 15 - 20 tracks and not 10?

Art is dead
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Frederick Geffingwater - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:54:41 EST hyJdrVHN No.456312 Reply
albums were only that long for value reasons, more focused albums are better with the filler removed

Fractal Ambient

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 02:13:42 EST lN20v1Ot No.455203
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found a man who makes a great Ambient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjwLcHwQVLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K14U6EEXDPU
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Graham Trotforth - Fri, 05 Jun 2020 19:41:20 EST 6+U8Lh8E No.456736 Reply
>>455203
fractals are ambient music visually? Either way, cool.

This here

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- Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:34:38 EST q/NH6DQZ No.455122
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Lol the fans complained about the studio album so they made their own from the live selections they prefer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28ol9g_GfQ

This guy became a one man band as a result of a freak encounter with a random stranger on acid at a campout giving him his name.
The story is only getting weirder, he probably met the devil

Classification and more

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- Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:07:48 EST q/NH6DQZ No.455112
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What genre do these fall into? I dont know what to call this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgP9tzt9_Z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKaHNyBmB4E
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