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- Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:31:41 EST 05lxzY7o No.455181
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RIP free time

RIP actually finishing something instead of endlessly fucking around in The Grid

PUNK

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- Sat, 30 Jun 2018 12:11:40 EST HdMZmDt1 No.453736
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Made this punk primer:

  1. Proto-Punk (Stooges, New York Dolls, MC5)
  2. NYC Punk/No Wave (Ramones, Talking Heads, The Dictators, Dead Boys, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Lizzy Mercier Descloux, James Chance, Suicide, Jim Carroll)
  3. London Punk (The Clash, The Jam, Sex Pistols, The Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex)
  4. LA Punk (Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Christian Death, TSOL)
  5. Oi! (Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects)
  6. Anarcho-Punk (Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans)
  7. Early Hardcore (Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits)
  8. UK82 (Chaos UK, The Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, One Way System, Anti-Nowhere League)
  9. Psychobilly (The Cramps, Meteors)
  10. Crust Punk (Discharge, Amebix, Anti Cimex, Extreme Noise Terror, GISM, Sore Throat, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, From Ashes Rise, Deviated Instinct, Nausea)
  11. Straight Edge (Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7 Seconds, Have Heart)
  12. Ska Punk (Specials, Operation Ivy, Madness, Streetlight Manifesto, Choking Victim)
  13. Post-Hardcore (Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, Planes Mistaken for Stars, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré)
  14. Emocore (Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music)
  15. Crossover Thrash (DRI, Gang Green, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball)
  16. Pop Punk (Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Ergs, PUP, Thermals)
  17. Queercore/Riot Grrrl (Pansy Division, Limp Wrist, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch)
  18. Garage Punk (New Bomb Turks, Mummies, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards)
  19. Metalcore (Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis, Terror)
  20. Skramz (Portraits of Past, Ampere, Gospel, Orchid, Pg.99, Loma Prieta)
  21. Powerviolence (Despise You, Infest, Nails, SPAZZ)
  22. Digital Hardcore (Atari Teenage Riot)
  23. Folk Punk (Days N Daze, Rail Yard Ghosts, Blackbird Raum, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me!)
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George Goshwill - Sat, 09 Mar 2019 18:51:08 EST kdyuvJI1 No.454626 Reply
I think I'm closing on on a final draft, but this one has a little extra space left

Proto-Punk: Stooges, NY Dolls, MC5
NY Punk/No Wave: Ramones, Dictators, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Rosa Yemen, James Chance, Suicide, Cramps, Dead Boys
UK Punk: Clash, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex, UK Subs, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks, Stranglers, Siouxsie
LA Punk: Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Dickies, Social Distortion, Bad Religion, Flipper
Oi: Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects
Post-Punk: Joy Division, Gang of Four, Pop Group, Chameleons, Killing Joke, PiL, Wire, Slits, Fall, Mekons
Anarcho-Punk: Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans
Hardcore: Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits, Adolescents, DOA
UK82: Chaos UK, Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, GBH, Anti-Nowhere League
Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, TSOL
Crust: Discharge, Amebix, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, Deviated Instinct, Nausea, Martyrdöd, Anti Cimex
Straight Edge: Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7Seconds, Have Heart, Bane
Grindcore: Napalm Death, Carcass, Nasum
Ska Punk: Specials, Operation Ivy, Choking Victim
Post-Hardcore: Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré, Drive Like Jehu, NoMeansNo, Naked Raygun
Emocore: Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music, Dag Nasty
Crossover Thrash: DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball, Suicidal Tendencies
Pop Punk: Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Thermals, Leatherface, Pennywise
Queercore/Riot Grrrl: Pansy Division, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch
Garage Punk: New Bomb Turks, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards, Wipers, Oblivians
Metalcore: Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis
Skramz: Portraits of Past, Orchid, Pg.99, Saetia, Daïtro, Raein
Powerviolence: Despise You, SPAZZ, Charles Bronson, Man Is the Bastard
Folk Punk: Days N Daze, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me
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Esther Cinderwill - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 01:10:06 EST 1fqXBoTo No.455156 Reply
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>>454626
Proto-Punk: Stooges, NY Dolls, MC5
NY Punk/No Wave: Ramones, Dictators, Richard Hell, Patti Smith, Television, DNA, Rosa Yemen, James Chance, Suicide, Cramps, Dead Boys
UK Punk: Clash, Jam, Sex Pistols, Damned, Adverts, X-Ray Spex, UK Subs, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks, Stranglers, Siouxsie
LA Punk: Germs, X, Fear, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Weirdos, Dils, Dead Kennedys, Gun Club, Dickies, Social Distortion, Bad Religion, Flipper
Oi: Sham 69, Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects
Post-Punk: Joy Division, Gang of Four, Pop Group, Chameleons, Killing Joke, PiL, Wire, Slits, Fall, Mekons
Anarcho-Punk: Crass, Rudimentary Peni, Flux of Pink Indians, Ex, Conflict, Zounds, Subhumans
Hardcore: Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Dicks, Poison Idea, MDC, Misfits, Adolescents, DOA
UK82: Chaos UK, Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, Adicts, GBH, Anti-Nowhere League
Deathrock: Christian Death, 45 Grave, TSOL
Crust: Discharge, Amebix, His Hero is Gone, Fall of Efrafa, Deviated Instinct, Nausea, Martyrdöd, Anti Cimex
Straight Edge: Youth of Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, 7Seconds, Have Heart, Bane
Grindcore: Napalm Death, Carcass, Nasum
Ska Punk: Specials, Operation Ivy, Choking Victim
Post-Hardcore: Minutemen, Fugazi, Quicksand, Refused, Hüsker Dü, At the Drive-In, Jawbox, Touché Amoré, Drive Like Jehu, NoMeansNo, Naked Raygun
Emocore: Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Heroin, Moss Icon, Hot Water Music, Dag Nasty
Crossover Thrash: DRI, Corrosion of Conformity, Cro-Mags, Madball, Suicidal Tendencies
Pop Punk: Descendents, Jawbreaker, Samiam, NOFX, Screeching Weasel, Thermals, Leatherface, Pennywise
Queercore/Riot Grrrl: Pansy Division, Bikini Kill, Team Dresch
Garage Punk: New Bomb Turks, Gories, Pussy Galore, Reatards, Wipers, Oblivians
Metalcore: Hatebreed, Converge, Earth Crisis
Skramz: Portraits of Past, Orchid, Pg.99, Saetia, Daïtro, Raein
Powerviolence: Despise You, SPAZZ, Charles Bronson, Man Is the Bastard
Folk Punk: Days N Daze, Billy Bragg, Ramshackle Glory, Against Me


lmao good list get crossed out in there in for PV seriously changed the whole idea of the movement
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Hedda Snodcocke - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 15:01:25 EST vq0qS9I6 No.455166 Reply
Good list, only a couple things I'm seeing is maybe missing. Proto-punk is a very nebulous concept, but I think The Velvet Underground should be in it for sure. This is kind of questionable but maybe also the Elevators should be too, despite usually being considered psych, they had a very raw, stripped down sound that influenced a lot of early punk/post-punk acts.

The Modern Loves should go somewhere for sure.

Maybe Cap'n Jazz or would you call them more straight (not a good word to use come to think of it lol but you know what I mean) emo?

Probably a few I'm missing but this is pretty exhaustive. Maybe I'll think of some more.

This here

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- Wed, 26 Jun 2019 21:34:38 EST q/NH6DQZ No.455122
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Lol the fans complained about the studio album so they made their own from the live selections they prefer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28ol9g_GfQ

This guy became a one man band as a result of a freak encounter with a random stranger on acid at a campout giving him his name.
The story is only getting weirder, he probably met the devil


chill shit

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- Sat, 20 Apr 2019 05:48:05 EST ZS10mfJT No.454811
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Lets get some chill shit rolling

https://youtu.be/uf9WLPZK2AU
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Gigs gigs gigs

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- Fri, 24 May 2019 22:02:33 EST R3KZddTn No.455008
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Playing a few local bars in the next few weeks and months and a cafe tomorrow night. The cafe is cover-oriented sort of like American Idol. Since everybody else there does covers, we're gonna do Dynamite Hack Boyz in the Hood. and Born in the 50s by the police. Where are you guys gigging? Funny gig stories?
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Emma Tootwill - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 23:31:51 EST XfdTRVVO No.455046 Reply
Used to begrudgingly help run a DIY venue out of our rental house in Chicago. We stopped booking ourselves after things got rolling because dealing with 200+ people in your living space is a full time nightmare. Usually the doorman had to sell merch as well, but one night none of the bands had any. I volunteered so I could just sit on my ass and get drunk/high. For those unfamiliar with such events, there's usually a small $1-5 "suggested donation" required to get in. The theory is to con people out of money without technically running a business. I made a bunch of jalapeno corn bread earlier in the afternoon and sold it for $1 a slice instead. Made about $50, everyone got to see the show for free, and my roommates never let me be the doorman again.

The end.
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Isabella Cassleson - Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:28:49 EST qskp3eO8 No.455079 Reply
I play live music a lot and tour. It's a lot of work and sometimes shit doesn't click but I love it.
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Jarvis Shakestone - Thu, 13 Jun 2019 07:50:02 EST /1YOOjmD No.455083 Reply
>>455034
I mean, one beer is fine before the show...

>stop looking at the drummer every time you fuck up or forget something you cunts.
We should start a band.



RIP Roky Erickson

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- Sat, 01 Jun 2019 20:26:16 EST G537GTn4 No.455040
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RIP you crazy motherfucker
When you have ghosts, you have everything
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Augustus Chudgechut - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 11:15:13 EST m9qZYVL5 No.455042 Reply
Seriously? RIP man. Many a blunts well spent.

ASAP HELP FOR DOWNLOADING TRAKTOR 3 FOR PIONEER DJJ-RB

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- Fri, 31 May 2019 22:13:58 EST xWQE+1ls No.455038
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"LEGIT"
wE NEED TO GET THESE PEOPLE HIGH BUT WE DONT HAVE THE PROGRAM. PLEASE HELP US TO GET THE PROCESS DONE.

What's the point of guitar amps?

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- Fri, 10 May 2019 14:39:11 EST 3A/2E54n No.454938
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Shit Porringfield - Thu, 23 May 2019 13:28:13 EST 6FD1tcde No.455002 Reply
>>454968
>even if it's crappy diy shit

the crappier and more diy'er the better man

I record most of my vocals with a tin can that glued a piezo and 1/4 inch jack into and shit I even record my buddy's banjo and sax with it and that shit sounds unique and wonderful as hell

DIY stuff will be quirky, but learning the ins and outs of the thing you made and getting creative with its quirks and limitations will get you on your way to creating a truly unique sound
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Cyan - Thu, 30 May 2019 19:54:29 EST R/kah+Q7 No.455032 Reply
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>>454938
Oh OP. It's not essentially an active speaker system. It's part of the tone. Tube amps in particular.

See, with tubes get their own character when you push the gain into em. Instead of ugly clipping you get this pumped up compression effect that distorts in a pleasant way. It's something you can really feel if you crank an amp, it's fun and you can feel it react to the way you play.

Sure, you can get the same SOUND from effects and modelers, and they are amazing for recording, live use, practice, everything really. But there is something about a tube amp that affects the actual way you play.

Btw I don't even own a tube amp because i've lived in apartments and small spaces for years and they are so damn loud. Just saying, the love for them is justified.


As for the Mic, putting something like that there SM57 in front of the amp is how you record the tone. Or, if you're on stage, it's a way to send your sound to the FOH so it can be mixed into the live system.
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Basil Bibberworth - Thu, 30 May 2019 22:49:26 EST 0muDcOin No.455033 Reply
>>455032
To be fair though, you have to have been playing guitar for awhile before you actually can appreciate the reaction of a tube amp driven hard. I couldn't tell a difference until I had played for at least a year or more.

I'm looking into buying an Randall Diavlo 100 or a Laney Ironheart. My 50w head doesn't cut the mustard for black metal.

Waxing Musical Poetic

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- Thu, 30 May 2019 16:00:13 EST N3Lg0qE1 No.455029
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Hey Y'all!

A very kind polish woman reached out to me for guidance in her pursuit of becoming a better pianist and improviser. I ended up writing more than I intended to, and I wanted to run it by y'all to see what you think of it and hopefully for you all to share your thoughts, feelings, and super deep philosophies on music and what it means to be a musician.


I post the text as a reply. For context, I am a primarily self-taught full time gigging musician and part-time music educator with about a year and a half of collegiate music education.
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Jenny Trotbury - Thu, 30 May 2019 16:00:54 EST N3Lg0qE1 No.455030 Reply
It’s hard to decide what is most important for fluency on piano and in music, but I will try to boil it down to a few things.

Especially when it comes to improvised music and jazz, I think the most important factors are going to be technical proficiency / chops, theoretical understanding of music, and time spent listening to and internalizing the musical vocabulary that resonates with you most.

Chops are guaranteed to come with time through focused and appropriate practice. As many hours as you can put into drilling scales, chords, and patterns in 12 keys slowly to a metronome and working up to progressively higher tempos will pay off eventually. The greater your technical proficiency is on the instrument, the more things you will be able to say in your playing.

Theory and understanding of music on a harmonic, melodic, and rhythmic level can (and I think should) be learned both academically / away from your instrument and aurally / with your instrument. Knowing what a ii-V-I progression is is a fundamental aspect of navigating jazz music. Understanding how, why, and when to use a V7b913 chord instead of a V7sus on a theoretical level will help you communicate your musical ideas and more tastefully express yourself. Understanding that difference is important both academically and aurally. Being able to spell out a V7b913 chord on paper is important for communicating your ideas with other musicians, while being able to hear the b9 and 13 and register them as emotional manipulations of the cadence is vital to how you choose to express yourself in the moment.

Listening and internalizing music and musical vocabulary that resonates with you is the third and most important step in the process. If you choose to focus solely on any one of these aspects, this should be the one you choose. Actively listening to the music that speaks to you most will be more beneficial than anything else. If you master your instrument on a technical level but fail to listen and internalize the musical vocabulary that resonates with you most, you will be able to say a great many things on your instrument but you will not be able to really communicate anything personally meaningful or expressive. Listen to recordings you love and attempt to recreate them on your instrument.

The process of developing musical vocabulary follows the steps of listening, imitating, internalizing, and then innovating. You don’t have to accurately transcribe every note exactly as it is played in your favorite recordings, but you should steal every line, chord voicing, progression, melody, and articulation you can. Once you can recreate them, they will become assimilated into your subconscious bank of musical vocabulary and will start to come out in new and original ways through your improvisation.

Beyond of all of that though, I truly believe that playing music authentically is a way of life and means of self expression that transcends what I discussed above. Regardless of your technical proficiency, theoretical understanding, or musical vocabulary, the process of learning, playing, and appreciating music can be an infinitely deep well of joy, gratitude, and self development. Loving and appreciating the things you play and the time you spend playing music does not require any specific level of skill. The act of playing at all within the pursuit of honest self-expression is valuable, and it can be the most challenging part of being a musician regardless of your ability, experience, or style. The goal should always be to love what you are playing, to express yourself creatively, and to learn for the sake of deepening your ability to do both of those things. There is no end game or ultimate level of skill, understanding, or fluency that will guarantee that playing piano is a joyous and meaningful experience. There is also no level of skill or understanding so low that you are unable to have a joyous and meaningful experience playing music. Playing music always has the inherent potential for meaningful self-expression.

The mechanical, academic, and social aspects of playing music are not always intrinsically fun or meaningful though. Drilling scales to a metronome, studying music theory, and trying to prepare for a performance can be draining and stressful both physically and emotionally. That is why I think it is vital to understand that while these things will make you a more proficient, capable, and expressive musician, they are not why we pla…
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Caroline Sonningbedging - Fri, 05 Jul 2019 19:17:07 EST MXKT7l92 No.455148 Reply
I really can't say. For instance, I've made a goal out of recording in these caves. The first time I went, I took a usb mic and a laptop and plinked on the violin. It sounds pretty bad, but there is no way I'd have played my heart out, it's just not me. I'm going again, this time witha mixer and an uninterruptible power supply. I have roughly 4 and a half hours of power, yet while I could lug an instrument out there, the weight factor and what I want to listen to (and others) is absolute silence, or rather being in a cave during a rainstorm, to hear the water flow. As edgy as it seems, what I want others to hear has nothing to do with the instrument I've fiddled with.

Cool and good suggestions?

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- Thu, 03 May 2018 22:34:16 EST SwHa6GzY No.453450
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I’m trying to find bands that will suit my current listening preferences. I’m on my annual modest mouse binge at the moment... To get a better idea I’m listening to built to spill, ugly Casanova, Brian Johnston, disco inferno, polvo, slint, the garden, thieves like us, etc.

Im sure this is pretty vague, but I’m looking for bands that have catchy/punchy melodies, interesting lyrics/stories, and a quirk to them..
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Augustus Greenham - Mon, 20 May 2019 05:41:19 EST 6FD1tcde No.454995 Reply
>>454988
yeah their newer stuff is pretty crap but those first few EP's and albums were amazing

"It's Complicated Being A Wizard" is fucking beautiful
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Shit Porringfield - Thu, 23 May 2019 11:57:05 EST 6FD1tcde No.455000 Reply
>Kay Kay and His Weathered Underground

the self titled album please
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Charlotte Futtingseck - Wed, 29 May 2019 17:14:16 EST W0p/EdbR No.455025 Reply
Never knew the Death Grips guy was into fucking Revenge, that's cool.

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