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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

tolerance? twice in a month?

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- Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:31:26 EST ZB4jGnwu No.224507
File: 1476653486852.jpg -(14606B / 14.26KB, 480x480) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. tolerance? twice in a month?
two nights ago i had 100mg. wondering how fast the tolerance is/how much I'd feel another 100mg if I don't wait a few weeks.
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Hannah Hurryfoot - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:08:35 EST fCnaDAqI No.224508 Reply
Wouldn't be noticeable. Just make sure not to do twice/month rolls very often.

Introducing friends to MDMA

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- Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:44:53 EST us/oVTqw No.224482
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A couple of my friends who I've been hanging out with alot have never tried MDMA.
Recently, I've got a hold of 4 un cut capsules of MDMA(two caps seemingly have MDA in them but its kind of subjective). All DNM sourced.

My question as I have only used MDMA less than 10 times,
what is the best environment to roll in for the first time?
We were considering their house which should yield relatively limited interruptions if any and is drug friendly.
I want them to enjoy themselves and really have a good first impression.
We planned to pre/post load with supplements which will be a first for me as well.
They dont take medication and we planned to have some BHO or weed(whichever is available)

>lights
>music suggestions(they mostly dig jambands but ive opened them up to house)
>your most important suggestions to improving a roll
>imporant suggestions for noobs
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Isabella Cudgeford - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:05:43 EST g7YJT8m3 No.224498 Reply
>>224482
Keep water on hand and even better coconut water, lemon water, gatorade to replenish electrolytes lost in sweat. Also save some weed for the comedown, it will be worth it as it will return the MDMA high with a overpowered but noticeable weed high. Your environment isn't too important because MDMA nearly eliminates anxiety and fear which is why this is my favorite drug of all time and seemingly is the best drug for assisting psychotherapy. I would advise you spend your time talking to people, you will find yourself open to speak of anything to anyone. The open, positive attitude can really benefit relationships with a deeper bond and allow for good well being when used for psychological improvement. Enjoy your roll and be safe man, hope this helps.
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Cedric Derringbere - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 15:40:58 EST j39gQjK/ No.224501 Reply
Are they actually interested in trying it? My first experience was awful but because it was something I wanted to do it didn't put me off. If you're more interested in them doing it than they are really make sure they don't overdo it.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 23:58:28 EST IeT2Me3u No.224504 Reply
Do not forget the GLOW STICKS!!!! So fun to play with when rolling and getting light shows is sick. Also it's really nice to go outside at night lay on your back and look at the stars. Also get some menthol ciggs. Even my friends that don't smoke LOVE menthols when rolling. So good.

Mofos

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- Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:48:06 EST CcCN6JTK No.224496
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Love you 420chan!

Tl/dr: love everyone/everythi g
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Fanny Brookforth - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:07:39 EST BEpCnkC9 No.224502 Reply
I know man i've read pages worth of threads and I can't even recall one of them, eh I wsh you all of you a happy time with toyr relatives/freinds/girlfriends/boyfriends/pets/objects/ideas/concepts/games/blankets/pavements/floors/caprpets and so on. Hello :) took me 24 minutes to write this

Comedowns

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- Tue, 04 Oct 2016 06:59:20 EST tybhyfAr No.224461
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What do you guys do to beat the depressive comedowns on molly? I was thinking about smoking weed, is it alright to do such? Won't it make me depressed even more? What are some things you could suggest to beat the awful comedowns?
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Simon Dremblewet - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:26:01 EST FY71XDSR No.224480 Reply
Eat a proper meal beforehand, and stock up on orange juice.

A benzo (particularly diazepam) works wonders for getting to sleep. I've always found it harder to sleep after a mandy binge than even stimulants.
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Fucking Pittfoot - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 02:07:19 EST H4ab0PPm No.224493 Reply
I took a bunch of MDMA last night. Started fapping as soon as I got home; 8 hours later still haven't managed to cum. Fuuuck.
Plenty of erections though, feels like I'm almost cumming constantly. Anyway I'm drinking to deal with it.
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Isabella Cudgeford - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 06:16:15 EST g7YJT8m3 No.224499 Reply
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>>224461
When you roll and comedown there are a few neurotransmitters that were depleted. Try light exercise or most effectively smoke weed as it will replenish the depleted electrolytes giving you a tired comedown rather than being in a poor mood. Additionally I think any drug with euphoric effects will counter the comedown, I found weed and other drugs put me at a neutral feeling to slightly positive mood.

how long?

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- Wed, 25 May 2016 17:59:22 EST 4t6cmIq5 No.223782
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just finished tapering venlafaxine (effexor) 150mg XR all the wayh down to 17.5mg daily, now its been a week since i took anything. how long until I can roll? I can get 0.2g of pure MDMA for $25. I don't wanna take it and have nothing happen!
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Fucking Bloblingman - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:46:49 EST FY71XDSR No.224486 Reply
>>224485
md prices are all over the place, quality, location doesn't even matter

hell OP could be buying 100% pure straight out of synthesization for all we know

Water insoluble mdma-like substances

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- Fri, 07 Oct 2016 08:24:18 EST eFi6+037 No.224473
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Is PMA the only water insoluble substance that is commonly sold as MDMA? pic related. Don't have a test kit, gonna return it today for my money back. Could it be anything other than PMA? pic related

Still depressed

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- Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:39:17 EST sOSKfiZo No.223959
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Hello /MDMA/, sorry for the thread but I just have this one question.

I've been so stupid and taken MDMA every weekend for the last three weeks.
I'm still depressed from the last roll, how long will it take for me to feel normal again?
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Esther Drommleworth - Wed, 03 Aug 2016 14:39:39 EST kMlFs7Pm No.224164 Reply
>>224132
This honestly. I've made it a ritual to just spend the days after doing any stim but especially molly being sad, I find it really therapeutic honestly.

I make sure I don't have to work, I'll skip class if I can, and just spend a lazy day or two smoking weed and listening to stuff like The Smiths, Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen etc.

I'm sad but I really do genuinely enjoy it somehow. Like it puts everything in balance after the intense euphoria of a stimulant.
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Edwin Grandway - Tue, 04 Oct 2016 08:38:32 EST 7AFMxZOB No.224462 Reply
it will take as long as it takes.

stupid anwer but thats the truth. you can meditate all you want and get on a goood sleep schedule but you should already be doing that. difference is youve fucked up some chemicals in your brain and now you need to give it proper time to recover, dont ask how long it will take and just let it happen now
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irrelevantelephant - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:11:44 EST cOBd9ptk No.224469 Reply
>>223959

Could just be natural depression as well. I find I hardly feel any depression after MDMA anymore (unlike other amps/stimulants binges, which have destroyed me mentally in the past). In fact I normally feel connected with the world, who I am and optimism about where I'm headed.
I do however feel sluggish, mental fog, drug craving, reminiscing my past (which can create a sort of longing) even the extreme dehydration aspect of my rolls can fuel my anxiety when I come down which I attribute to serotonin depletion. I guess this might be viewed as depression to people who don't know how to distinguish the two. However this is a very subjective topic because everyone is different. Just don't get stuck in a cycle of using the drug to feel comfortable with yourself and you should be fine.
Take a break, have a few beer instead, lay off any psych's as well and eventually you're chemical imbalance should right itself.
I've heard pre-gaming rolls (4-5 hours before) with 5-HTP and vitamin supplements can help. I do find most of it is in my head though and I the harshness it has on my body can be mistaken for depression because well, you just generally feel shitty.
Stay Hydrated all the time, take care of yourself in everyday life and take 3 or 4 day breaks in between doses. It's better to roll Sunday Wednesday Saturday then it would be to go Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Also you won't have to double up which is probably hurting you more than you realize. I binged for 2-3 months (Almost everyday) on E as a youngin, lost 30 pounds within that time. I was up to dropping 6 pills at once, not the strongest but 3 would sit anyone on their ass for 5 hours or so. Now that my friend was me self medicating, chasing a high to feel `normal` and putting tons of mental stress on myself and others around me. NOT WORTH IT.

One-time E fling

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- Mon, 08 Aug 2016 02:36:19 EST MidKbjJF No.224196
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Dear /mdma/

I have a question pertaining to the neurotoxicity of this weird and interesting substance.

I personally took it once on the night of May 5th of this year. I had fun, but I took a lot, and it was my first roll. I took about 250mg, more or less.

I am wondering if this has caused any issues with my cognition and happiness. I believe I am mildly depressed, and after using this, I might have gotten worse. I do more drugs now than I ever have, mostly because I want to escape and have fun nights alone being checked out. I have a depressed girlfriend that loves me to death, and an awesome job. I dont want to take SSRIs because I hear they turn you into a zombie, but I want to find the motivation to work out and be a stronger person and make my family happy I am around. enough /qq/ though

Can using a large amount of Molly once potentially hurt your brain long-term if you preloaded and postloaded antioxidants and supplements?
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Edwin Fullytot - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 16:16:57 EST 4ngc6hql No.224446 Reply
A big dose for a first timer, should have taken less. Give yourself time to reboot. Relax, don't stress and it should be gone in a few months like it never happened. During those months you will gradually get better even if you may not notice it.
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Samuel Blullerstetch - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 18:45:18 EST gbK3cMqn No.224447 Reply
I don't think you did perma damage. Doing drugs while depressed is pretty bad tho

>I came down and cried pretty hard the next day, all day
Well you most likely underestimated the pover of the comedown.

Just don't do drugs so often.. jeez
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Mushroom-Madness - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 16:54:21 EST oKDdNiJf No.224455 Reply
>>224444
250 is high dose for a first timer especially if it is pure and also depending on the weight. On the other hand it is not a ridiculous dose of molly which would take 2 weeks to a month to fully recover. The recovery time would assume being mostly sober because that will speed up the rate of recovery.
>Op what kinds of drugs are using after the molly?

Caffeine

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- Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:38:10 EST 7u58QV+v No.224440
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Who here advcates caffeine before/during/after rolls?
Have had pills with supposed caffeine in them before however i was WAY too inexperienced at the time to have even noticed

I had one relativly strong cup of coffee this morning aproximently at noon
Will this affect my roll at all tonight when i drop around ~9 or 10pm?

How you cut that MD?

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- Sat, 10 Sep 2016 03:55:55 EST VDlJHhb3 No.224364
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
I gave up MDxx about 5 years ago due to obvious impurity reasons during that time. It was sad, I almost lost hope. Until about two years ago... see I used to do presses. Old school thizz, beans, vitamins however you refer your MDxx. Life was great, the sky was the limit but it eventually dried out in my area. Around this time I met very interesting people at all kinds of festivals. It was magical.. now fast forward 2 years >>
...I should clarify I'm not from the states but have access to very very pure "molly"... God I hate that slang, just sounds so redundant especially when you have tested mdxx *So much RC is passed around these days it's disgusting (unless your prepared).
Now to the main question of my post*
What do you mix your MDxx with? I myself prefer amps. It really helps inevitable couch lock, the stuff in this photo (bagged crystal) totally messes you up.
See where I`m from, E is non existent. It`s a weird phenomenon.
So what we do is obtain speed pills and cut our own molly. However this stuff isnt your stereo typical party drug.
I took a .4 in the span of 5 hours (finger dipped) and flew for a good 7 hours. It was crazy, I was even getting visuals during eye wiggles. Lets hear your experiences 420chan.
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irrelevantelephant - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 04:31:02 EST VDlJHhb3 No.224365 Reply
>>224364
and yes. It has been tested numerous times by numerous kits at numerous events. The jaw clench was wild, and the sweating, well... let's just say I was in an air conditioned basement with a dehumidifier and couldn't cool down. Just dripping, it was was quite overwhelming.
I don't get too much euphoria these days because of my amp use but it still feels amazing. Music hits me in ways that are still unimaginable. The only thing that bugs me is how drowsy I get. After a 1.5 I just lay, for hours, it's quite unnerving. It's almost a dream like state between consciousnesses. Not that I'm complaining, however I prefer MDA for this reason. I can see how this is therapeutic but not a party motivator. I guess you never realize how synergistic pills can be until you try pure MDMA on it's own.
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Shitting Fanfield - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:53:53 EST 2pqOljwT No.224366 Reply
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I get my MDMA off DNMs and cut it with Club Mate and eventually some kind bud at the end of the night.
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Charlotte Bardforth - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 00:54:38 EST 6AFH8sAb No.224415 Reply
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I liked cutting a g of "molly" that tested navy blue with 40-60mg of addies on party nights. Kept things going without getting too gritty.

Trimbos Institute launches MDMA/XTC safety check app

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- Wed, 28 Sep 2016 17:16:18 EST lcvBSWLR No.224432
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The Dutch Trimbos Institute (basically a semi-independent organ that advices the Dutch government on mental healthcare issues, drugs and addiction) just launched an app that basically showcases all dangerous pills going around.

http://nos.nl/op3/artikel/2134831-met-deze-app-check-je-hoe-gevaarlijk-je-pilletje-is.html

Article is in Dutch, but it's still interesting.

Of course, you can always go on pillreports, but it's possible that a scummy dealer will try to make his pills look better than they really are. This app is a closed system, run by the Trimbos Institute, so if they say a pill is shit, it's shit for sure. I guess this means it will automatically improve websites like pillreports, at least for people in West-Europe, since I'm sure those people will happily take over the apps data.

REDOSING

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- Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:24:13 EST A6XqbuYq No.224275
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Hi guys (and girls

I've been enjoying MDMA for a good couple years.

I've always been extremely careful and borderline paranoid with a lot of the things i do, same with MDMA, I like to do my research and try to be as informed as i can.
Taking 3+ month breaks, highest dose i ever took was barely 150mg, and i never redosed. ALWAYS test all of my substances.

This ensured that I actually never got any comedowns, and i never lost the magic. Which is fantastic, I couldn't be happier about my relationship with the drug! Every experience so far has been better than the other.

My question is mainly about redosing.
How bad is it really?

I've seen many friends do it, and I don't know if the fact that they get pretty bad comedowns is due to the redosing, or combined with the fact that they use mdma probably way too often.

Soon I will be attending a very very big even that I have been waiting for a long time. Top 3 favourite DJs of all time for me. I am on a 4 month break. I am going with great friends, and I am leaving the wonderful city I have been living in, at is is pretty much our biggest goodbye party, which I want to enjoy to the max.

So I was thinking, how "far" can you go with MDMA without messing yourself up or giving yourself comedowns?
Would something like 140mg + 60mg be too much, and perhaps do give me a comedown for the first time?
Is redosing not necessary at all?

I just find conflicting opinions and reports on whether redosing is worth it, in terms of cost to benefit ratio.
Thanks a lot
Cheers
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Ian Grimstock - Thu, 08 Sep 2016 16:07:47 EST oqmzCZSi No.224350 Reply
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Redosing is very common with the people I know, like 95% of the time . I've seen people redose 5-6x in a night and still not have a heavy hangover, personally I think that’s overdoing it a bit, but hey everybody his cup of tea.
I've heard that If you redose too often your Serotonin will be depleted and you will only have the amphetamine effects (with loads of teeth grinding)

Personally I don’t see a problem with it in moderation(maybe worth noting I only take it at raves). I usually take around 100mg and redose within 3 hours of my first dose. More than 100mg is too much (for me). After that I usually redose 1-2 times (50-100mg) which keeps me roll extended for long time.

Also I barely notice a hangover, I get more emotional from music and movies, especially after smoking weed. Personally I enjoy it.
But I leave at least a month between my rolls, if you don’t the hangover will be worse, or that’s what I've heard.
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Polly Ballertog - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:36:21 EST 6yWG6CTS No.224428 Reply
>>224275
Idk whether this is too late but I'll try and bring some science to this thread
Brain damage by MDMA is caused by the redox reaction of serotonin, now I can't remember the exact science but redosing fucks up this redox reaction more than it usually is fucked up by MDMA anyway and is generally a bad idea (also diminishing returns etc) now the threshold dose is ~300mg (naturally weight will affect this) before permanent - albeit light brain damage will occur, so it'd be in your best interests to do around a 250-270mg dose
Take 5-htp after for a couple days (pretty sure that's basic knowledge tho?)
Now my experience with MD is fairly light so I might be sounding like a mong here but I read a fair few studies and this is my advice on the matter

Thinking about MDMA

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- Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:16:30 EST VavnFuFB No.224312
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Hey all,

I was wondering if you could help me by sharing ways in which MDMA has helped you therapeutically.

I've been anxious and very physically tense my entire life. I have trouble truly relaxing or letting go. A lot of my body is 'numb' to me from holding it tense. Ive been weightlifting recently and it has been helping with my stress, but I still have hurdles to get over, namely that I still have trouble/numbness from being tense and stressed. I use a marijuana cartrifge-pen daily, but I find that it can make me tense as well occasionally. Would MDMA be good for me? I've tried LSD and mushrooms, but I tend to freak out with those.

Sorry for the novel; thanks for reading
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Nigel Toothood - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 06:48:53 EST tjj6lcI3 No.224416 Reply
it certainly has therapeutic qualities and allows you to be honest with yourself without negative feedback, but weight it out against the very real possibility of permanent, irreversible brain damage occurring with relatively low doses.. read the science before people here start calling me a retard and a vibe killer, it is neurotoxic, that much we know.
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Cyril Sizzlebanks - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:46:50 EST fCnaDAqI No.224417 Reply
Be sure to write down a lot of feelings and thoughts when you take MDMA.
A lot of ideas may be cloudy or you may lack the conviction you had on certain ideas when you wake up the next day. What helps is explaining what you felt and also why you felt that way the next day.

Keep in mind that, like psychedelics giving you cuhrazy ideas that you wake up the next day to and think "meh that's silly", MDMA will treat you the same way except it'll be different sorts of ideas that you'll feel strongly about because of certain chemicals going on, you feel?
(Easiest example here is falling in love with a stranger on mdma and waking up the next day and going 'oh god who the fuck' though I'm referencing more substantial things here that you may think up for yourself)
It's important to differentiate the random mdma-love from other thoughts that may carry weight in a positive way the next day if you remember to write them down with good explanations and stuff.


I'm amazed you haven't tried downers like opiates and benzos; that would be the ideal easy way out. But they're not therapeutic and you'd end up addicted to them probably without ever figuring out a solution to anything.
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Nell Honeydock - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:12:43 EST v3VyaLb0 No.224422 Reply
>>224417
Don't take opiates and/or benzos, they're great but totally addictive and will just make you feel shit after you certainly do get hooked on them. Having said that MDMA is your answer, it's not like a regular stimulant, it'll help you see what all of your issues in life are and how to get around them, usually MDMA, good MDMA will feel more sedating than stimulating anyway. But yeah, it's basically like a really good LSD trip, the only difference being acid's a little more crazy and has the tenancy to go both ways. Couldn't recommend it enough for therapy though!

no scale

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- Fri, 16 Sep 2016 04:34:07 EST qXsdNSEi No.224387
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hey there!
so i got a decent amount of MDMA (GRAM+) and a buddy of mine is interested in purchasing $10 (usually does caps. only got in rock form) and don't got a scale and was hoping there is some rough home measure thing i could use? coin or something? pics would help.
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Polly Bleffingspear - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:27:14 EST fCnaDAqI No.224398 Reply
>how do i measure without a scale
1) go on amazon
2) buy a scale
3) get scale in 2 days
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Sophie Buzzbury - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:46:14 EST 2a7ai1UE No.224406 Reply
Find the destiny of molly and then use the Archimedes principle lol
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Fuck Cregglefuck - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 01:44:46 EST 6wiyZQFe No.224412 Reply
>>224387
surely one of your friends has a weed scale, i mean it'd be better to have an accurate scale but you can measure points on weed scales. otherwise like other people have said you could always crush it up and divide it into 10 lines if you've got a gram, won't be totally accurate but it's a start.

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