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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Vaccines

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- Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:05:36 EST KpHofzle No.55882
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Let's have a discussion about vaccination. It's a contentious topic, so a heightened sense of civility (and maybe a little weed) is encouraged. As anyone who has posted on chans long enough knows, when people are passionate about a topic, the greatest barrier to discussion becomes hostility and, sometimes, tribalism. Just look back at /pol/ if you don't believe me.

Months ago, I found a vaccine thread on /n/, related to NY Mayor Bill De Blasio forcing numerous communities to be legally required to receive various vaccines. The thread was largely in support of vaccination, though not necessarily in support of forced-vaccination, and so I made my best case against vaccination, specifically against the MMR and MMR-v vaccines (measles). To my surprise, nobody had any real refutation for my claims, and the thread almost instantly went silent and died.

This thread exists because I found someone who managed to refute many of my claims that I used in that thread: my brother, a scientist who makes vaccines for Big Pharma Hentai. He has proven many of my main arguments invalid or incorrect, so between him, and my best friend who studies vaccines as a graduate student, I have two incredible sources to discuss vaccination with, one who is strongly pro-vaccination (brother) and one is one strongly against the practice (friend).

I'm telling you all of this because I believe I can offer you something that opposes your view (the point of that being to stimulate meaningful discussion), regardless of whether you're for or against vaccination. So what is your take on the topic? Whatever your stance, I invite you to discuss your point of view, and I also compel you to bring your strongest piece(s) of evidence that supports your position here for scrutiny.
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Hedda Crendleville - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:43:20 EST 0dZl6IQM No.55887 Reply
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>>55882
My parents were never vaccinated for measles, for them it was just like getting a very bad flu, some throat or er ear infection caused by a virus and you toughed it out, some kids even thinking sweet, no school for a little while

As for me as a kid, I was only out of school for a long time from some virus in my guts, shat liquid and felt ill for close to 20 days, then the bitch of a teacher I had in 5th grade didn't do much to get me back on track, making it my shittiest primary school year, grade-wise. Man it was terrible, the pediatrician checked for a lot of things that were bacteria related and I had none of that.

I can say that the MANDATORY shot for everyone who's going to school or college (2 year old to 20 year old), in october 2001, as there was all of this anthrax going around just 5 hours south of me and even not that far due to the still unexplained 94 year old granny who got anthrax in Connecticut and died. It was a vaccine against 2 kinds of meningitis, "Menjugate", I know that I felt strangely detached after getting the shot on 2 oct 2001 according to my Health Booklet, basically a little book your parents are given at birth up here in this province where medical entries of importance are added, which includes vaccines I had as a kid, that one was the last entry, I didn't get the shots again at 18 like you're supposed to for 3 of them, it was 75 dollars, screw that.

All's I know is that an early 80's kid wasn't swarmed by vaccines as much as now, I have about 5 or 6 vaccines as a kid, all were single ingredient, MMR was first tested in 85 by the makers, after 3000 kids trying it, there was so many ill babies, it was banned. Then they shipped it to the UK where the same pretty much happened, then they brought it to Australia, where it stayed more than a few months, more like 4-5 years and then it was banned again (I think) or not used so much, but that explains how come I know so many austists from Australia online and they tend to be 5-10 years younger than me (yeah I'm getting old..37, ouch) and then in 1994 was brought to America and the use never stopped and suddenly there's huge concerns starting about 10 years later and movies and stuff about normal kids degenerating mentally instead of improving.

I just looked at that Health Booklet, my mom wrote in I was "clean", meaning I took a shit by myself at 11 months, man I was a smart kid.

Other random question regarding vaccines : Why are idiot savants in the US Army and such try to make vaccines for bacteria? (Anthrax being the prime example), that makes no biological sense and guys like Tim McVeigh was known to have had about 15 experimental vaccines tested on him in the first gulf war and in the small force left behind in Kuwait when the war was "over". They don't help their case with such non-science tried to be forced into science? It's the only official reason why we even have biological weapons stockpiles in the West.
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Hedda Crendleville - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:51:10 EST 0dZl6IQM No.55888 Reply
>>55887
Also the flu....it's always the flu from the previous season, we had flu shots in the 90's and everybody knew they were useless and expensive and nobody bothered.

Yeah I forgot to say, I got my robe and tinfoil hat, but that Meningitis shot on October 2nd 2001, in college, and it was mandatory for everyone 2-20 except for some doctor's recommendation against it, which is weird, kids get to start to decide for almost everything when they're 14 here. I know that I felt pretty out of it and zombie-like and back then I was in my second semester of college, I wasn't even toking regularly yet then, it was a sometimes thing, I got drunk often, but mostly in the summer, I was clean as a whistle and I remember feeling very weird but it passed...it's kind of strange that it coincided with 9/11 and the one-two punch that was the Cheney anthrax attacks >.> (why did he have the NRC stop all proof of the radionucleide signature that was telling them where it really came from and that Ivins had nothing to do with it. nb

How to fix an abscess tooth at home.

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- Sat, 24 Aug 2019 15:58:18 EST D8JFwXSo No.55875
File: 1566676698910.png -(1939414B / 1.85MB, 750x1334) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How to fix an abscess tooth at home.
Can anyone tell me the best way to do this. I used to be an IV user so I know how to treat an abscess that’s on your arm or something but in my mouth I don’t have much experience. I’ve been taking antibiotics already and as far as I can tell it hasn’t gotten any worse but it hasn’t gotten better either. Do I have to drain it in order for it to go away? Plz help!
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Ian Nannerhall - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:22:02 EST 4UkLCdMc No.55876 Reply
>>55875
Pretty hard doing it at home but not too bad. It can get bad and impact other shit. The infection can spread. A few people die from just ignoring it.
https://utodent.com/how-to-drain-a-tooth-abscess-at-home/
link seems to at least say what you should do. It is important to get everything out.
if you have socialized healthcare or insurance just get a (not really called dentist) to do it.
hope you can get er' done.

How do you treat depression?

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:15:32 EST Uk5yBuPd No.55862
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nicholas Pushnick - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 09:20:27 EST KpHofzle No.55865 Reply
>>55862
Simple, OP. There are three conditions that I strive for, along with drug use. They are, 1) time in nature, 2) time with friends, 3) physical exercise for opi endorphins. The drugs I like are weed and hooch, although everything is good on occasion.
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Batowl - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 20:58:07 EST Uk5yBuPd No.55871 Reply
>>55862
Drink it away, because stone cold steve auston said so.

Making myself sick...?

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- Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:44:46 EST IlxuN4on No.55821
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So I'm going to Japan for a little over two months, from Nov - Jan

Last time I was there I caught some rare shitty flu strain and was actually hospitalized for days in a rural city where absolutely no one spoke English and I know about 100 words. SO sick, despite having my flu shot and being a generally healthy and fit person, that was one of the top five times in my life I was genuinely convinced I was gonna die.

So my thought is, maybe I could get myself sick while I'm still in good ol North America, and time it so I'm basically fully recovered by the time I set foot on a plane, and my immune system will be on high alert. Still gonna get the flu shot too before I bounce.

I'm just wondering what would be a good timeline, and what would be the best way to go about doing this? I'd like to not be obliterated, but fairly ill. Has anyone else done something like this? Kinda like self immunization I guess?

Suggestions welcome.
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Reuben Pockville - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 23:06:10 EST KpHofzle No.55837 Reply
>>55835
I had the flu shot once, and that year I caught the flu. Besides that I've never had the flu.
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Betsy Sishstun - Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:17:04 EST 6iKjdh2C No.55838 Reply
Bunch of complete aspies in this thread who do not understand correlation does not equal causation. I hope all of you fucks die of the flu.

OP, get your flu shot. Not too sure your other plan is gonna work out, but maybe give yourself a good three weeks before you fly out, to the day you deliberately infect yourself. I recommend playing with a small, sick child (obvs one related to younot a rando but you'd probably get sick in jail) or riding a bus or subway while eating cheetos without washing your hands.
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Ebenezer Mudgeway - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 05:14:14 EST Sk3N8VmF No.55869 Reply
>>55821
I'd like to report I have successfully made myself very ill.
I bought a giant size bag of really sauce-covered beef jerky and have been eating it by hand in many locations in my workplace over the last three days, and licking my fingers clean afterwards.

Now I'm coughing productively, my sinuses are blocked with severe post-nasal drip and I feel like trash.

I achieved the first half of my experiment, which I wasn't sure would happen. And I don't know how this will turn out, but I assume I can kick whatever has colonized me in the next three weeks or so or at least grab antivirals/antibiotics by the end of two weeks if I don't.

Irregular heartbeat when masturbating

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 09:24:16 EST RZY1KCR5 No.55867
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When I masturbate I can feel my heart beating irregularly and skipping beats. It doesn't happen when I'm doing other types of exercise. Should I be worried about this? How do I bring this up with my doctor?
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James Bruckleson - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:06:31 EST KpHofzle No.55868 Reply
>>55867
Do you have a history of heart disease in your family? Are you overweight? Do you smoke cigarettes or eat a lot of dairy and meat?

Regardless, talk to your doctor. If you feel uncomfortable, replace "masturbation" with "sex" and you'll be all set.

Chronic Pain

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- Fri, 09 Aug 2019 08:59:09 EST Ybv0h//P No.55852
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How does one deal with chronic pain?

I was in a car accident 8 months ago that has severely fucked me over. Most everything has healed now, but my back is always a low-grade annoyance that occasionally flares up into agonizing spasms that leave me unable to move for days.

It's very frustrating to live like this. I'm in physical rehab 3x a week, see a doc regularly - nothing works. And I'm not going to take pain meds for life. This is fucked.
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Betsy Suzzleshit - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 21:19:06 EST KpHofzle No.55853 Reply
>>55852
I got you OP. For one, seeing your doctor and going to rehab are all great things, even if they don't seem like they're doing anything. I know you said you don't want to take pain meds for life, so you might be open to hearing me out.

Here's what I recommend, as someone who literally only has first-aid level training (and some non-professional experience in public health and nutrition) and shouldn't be recommending anything at all: make dietary changes to reduce chronic inflammation. A lot of different foods (mostly animal products, but not exclusively) contribute to chronic inflammation, which both causes pain and prevents healing. For me, it's my broken thumb. It's not broken any more but when I eat like shit for weeks on end and don't move around enough, it starts hurting chronically. Other injuries flare up too for the same reasons, a bum ankle, a damaged wrist- but when I keep myself eating healthy, drinking lots of water, and getting exercise/blood flow, I find that my pain evaporates. I've been doing this for a few years now, ever since I quit heroin basically, and I'm finding that my injuries aren't merely subsiding in pain, but are getting better! My wrist, which has been a problem every since I injured it years ago, has gotten to the point over the last year where I can do most things again with no pain at all, and a greater feeling of stability. Same with my shoulder.

So yeah if that sounds good, let me know and we can talk more about diet. Next up is exercise. I'm sure your physical therapist is working toward this goal with you already, but it's worth saying that your back will prosper if you strengthen the supporting muscle groups that prop it up. Talk with your therapist about that, and be active and consistent, even after you stop seeing them. Those guys see tons of people, and they know best that none of those people will keep up with the work to maintain recovery, and they accept it begrudgingly. If you show them that you're serious about healing yourself, they'll be more likely to commit to you too.

The other trick is cutting out bad foods without going insane. If you can learn to cook some healthy foods, you'll have a much easier time transitioning to a diet that focuses on avoiding inflammation. Maybe go to /nom/ and ask for recipes, or ask and we can chat about some of my staples.

Back injuries are scary. Just remember that the human body is OP as fuck, and you're not alone in healing yourself.
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Phyllis Sizzledog - Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:49:11 EST FonZKC1l No.55861 Reply
try getting some massage from an experienced therapist. won't fix your spine or discs or whatever but reducing muscle tension can mitigate pain

Nalox owned?(too cheeky to pass up)

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- Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:17:28 EST zP0cNzaB No.55844
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to;Dr
Person was 30 days sober of opiates confirmed by inpatient. Got the vivitrol shot.
Person relapsed today and was high at work used heroin dosage unknown ,possible fentanyl, closest other medication is Gabapentin that he is prescribed. and diphenhydramine (We are in Chicago) He was able to be inconspicuous, however my Dad knows him enough to know that he was offf
He gets bussed to the hospital, given Naloxone

- He is BLATANTLY impaired.
-Most fucked I've heard a voice get from any opiate intake, sounds completely different.
-His complaints align with precipitated withdrawals. EXCEPT he is now going to sleep, I don't know if he's nodding but he seems like a Thorazine zombie.
- Word salad
- Obnoxious slur, as if he was faking poorly to be drunk.
- He can shit but is itchy

He was on heroin, nothing else confirmed.
I have suboxone in the house if that could help(highly doubt it, especially seeing what naloxone did.)

Anything I should expect? Outside the Ordinary withdrawals of opioids.

Acetylcholine and seroquel

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- Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:59:13 EST eAyeZGui No.55839
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So, I had a court mandate to take seroquel (200mg morning/night and then later 600mg at night) for about two years. It fucked up my body and mind. They took me off it when I got pancreatitis (but wouldn't admit it caused it conclusively) and since then I've felt a lot better. I'm trying to figure out how to repair the damage it did because I think it fucked up my acetycholine receptors and mental acuity a bit. Not to mention weight gain, my entire limbic system got backed up and I felt like shit for quite a while, too. I think I'll recover naturally in time but I'm also paranoid. Tobacco and nicotine seem to help quite a bit but it's a transient restoration. Is there any other way I can repair the damage of this bullshit drug using a pharmaceutical or other therapeutic means?
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Frederick Dreckleched - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 02:25:19 EST 8ksXFopz No.55843 Reply
>>55839
look up seroquel pancreatitis lawsuits. Not sure what can help reverse things but
Remeron is an anti-depressant that seems to make most feel pretty well overall.

any tips on keeping liquid down?

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- Wed, 10 Jul 2019 23:31:40 EST BNAfGtSG No.55823
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I had a really bad reaction to some pain meds I was prescribed, and I've been puking for 6-7 hours now, literally there looks to be over a gallon of vomit in my trash can alone, and that's not the only place I puked.
I tried some canada dry ginger ale, until I found out there's no fucking ginger in it. Now I'm straight water and ice cubes. This is my fourth attempt to keep something down, I'm scared I'm moderately to severely dehydrated. at what point should I be going to the emergency room
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Martin Fommerlut - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 06:15:07 EST x7nmIS2w No.55827 Reply
>>55823
One trick I knew from someone who had struggled with a bad flu was to enjoy a popsicle slowly to get the melting juices from it so as not to consume too much and have another gut reaction but still provide some minimal hydration and nutrients to the body.

Cannabis of course can suppress nausea and is my go to when I need it for such, I prefer to smoke it when feeling nauseated as consuming edibles or drinks is not fun with an upset gut.
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Fucking Summlekidge - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 08:19:49 EST BNAfGtSG No.55828 Reply
well I did guys, I filled up a 4 gallon office type trash can with puke and tissues. I've been trying to drink extremely slow but I'm still purging at least once an hour, it's not as bad as earlier.
>>55824
I took half a benny and got about an hour of sleep, before that I was up for 3 days. Probably going to check into the ER tomorrow and get an IV drip so I don't die of thirst. I'll ask them what they can do for me. I never want to see another tramadol again, why do they even prescribe this shit, when this is a known and common problem? Well I know why because it's cheap, and it be prescribed by doctors lower on the totem pole.
>>55827
I just had two off the regular popsickles-in-a-bag over about ten minutes it feels a little questionable but I don't think it's immediately going to come up.

thanks for sharing in my suffering everyone
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Jenny Gondlefuck - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 19:39:03 EST M0tfxH/U No.55831 Reply
>>55823
Go to the ER. Might be other shit going on. I was puking really bad from my kidney stone pain and went to ER. Turned out I was in shock, kidney was swollen, stone was stuck, and they randomly found a scar in my right lung (wut). was puking violently all night, and even 4-8mg of Zofran wasn't stopping it. (Also tried ginger root, usually works well. and nothing)



Coping with migraine life / preventing them maybe

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!cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:06:25 EST 52mIGvLD No.55742
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I've always had headaches, but now this. Over the past few years, I've started getting migraines, and since then I've been gradually been getting them more and more frequently. My neurologist has given me a prescription for Maxalt, which usually works if I have one with me to consume. But on days where I wake up with ine, or I just don't have any with me, I'm fucked. Aside from the pills, I try to remember vitamin D.

Is there anything I can do to ease any of the various pains or vomiting? Force my body to digest the foods in my stomach? Or more I can do to prevent them from happening in the first place? I'm losing my social life because of it, and losing money because I'd have to call in to work if I wake up with one. Please help.

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James Danningridge - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 00:59:01 EST r0imEmDW No.55816 Reply
>>55742
Lsd and mushrooms will decimate migraines for months after a single moderate dose.
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, - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 03:19:06 EST Nm0RFigF No.55817 Reply
>>55815
Even Janis Joplin fans are limited to pretty much nothing. The sound recordings were at best low quality.
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Henry Druddlefoot - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 05:24:09 EST X5BW44/s No.55820 Reply
>>55742
Hey OP I didn't read the thread at all but I know that psilocybin mushrooms can help with migraines. Ever considered them? Maybe tell your doc about it. They probably have heard of it.

Longstanding issues with the left ear...

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- Sat, 29 Jun 2019 20:37:29 EST tc0XGuG8 No.55810
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The skinny of it is after at least six months of ear infections (reappearing in the same ear) along with getting a spray style cleaning kit for wax, they managed to find liquid trapped behind the canal. These last two months have been quite taxing, but I have an apointment on the 13th of July with an ENT.

What should I expect in terms of treatment and protocal? I know I could look it up, but I'm concerned with the potential underling pain. Although I was told by my primary it would be more so instant release once all is said in done.
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Angus Braddlesat - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 13:51:03 EST FonZKC1l No.55812 Reply
i am not sure, but an ENT is an expert in this part of the body. my guess would be they will try to remove the fluid with a syringe. i am assuming you ran full courses of antibiotics for these infections?
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Hannah Gambleleck - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 19:44:51 EST Hq9wBV13 No.55814 Reply
>>55812
Yes, both by drops and oral pills/tablets. I just got some steroids Mon from my PCP. So the complications are somewhat abated until the appointment. They wanted to do a test run before stretching it.

I'm unsure if any infections are still in play. When I saw the PCP on the 23rd, they didn't mention a current ear infection. They didn't want to give me another round of antibiotics seeing as I've had them in my system at such a frequency.

(I apologize for any typos I'm lopsided and disjointed. So hopefully I'm not totally incompressible.)

Permanent aguesia

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- Tue, 18 Jun 2019 18:20:12 EST PLBP5Wyp No.55804
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Is there any otherwise-safe way to induce a permanent state of ageusia or a daily maintenance supplement/medication that could cause it, where this effect is desired?
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Clara Dullywure - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:54:11 EST bFIbT47D No.55805 Reply
>>55804
I don't know much about it, but I bet there's a way to fry your tongue's tasting ability, not unlike how we can destroy our hearing or eyesight (by airhorn addiction and screen-staring respectively).

There are some foods out there that can change tastes into other tastes though. Miraculin is a compound in a strange fruit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synsepalum_dulcificum) that makes sour foods like lemons taste sweet. I'd love to try it.
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Rebecca Bluckleshit - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 09:45:41 EST PLBP5Wyp No.55806 Reply
>>55805
Miraculin's cool. As far as frying tasting ability, the other two are based on overwhelming amounts of stimuli but I can't think of how you'd achieve that same thing with flavor

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