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MIXED MARTIAL ENTERTAINMENT

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- Sat, 30 Dec 2017 15:49:45 EST oXxEAWra No.57969
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One of my friends was joking the other day about Vince's XFL trademark being for "the Xtreme Fight League" and what a worked MMA fed would be like. What are your ideas?

We came up with:
>No weight classes. Mastadons can fight 5'3" vanilla midgets
>Can win by escaping the cage
>Handicap bouts with mastadons facing three skinny tin cans
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Takanori Gomi - Sun, 29 Jul 2018 03:52:41 EST dWqcspyK No.58063 Reply
>>58057
There's also some Russian thing called "Hip Show" which has teams fighting on an obstacle course.
Team boxing is an old tradition in Russia, they call it Stenka Na Stenku.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:16:42 EST 4Zm7H80G No.58064 Reply
>>58057
I mean the International Fight League was like this with the team concept and all except they didn't all fight at the same time.
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Rani Yahya - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 11:24:55 EST dWqcspyK No.58066 Reply
>>58064
Chuck Norris' World Combat League was teams, just one-on -one fighting.

Boring

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- Sun, 08 Jul 2018 02:53:07 EST 6gunZrjG No.58054
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You what Lewis vs Ngannou looked like?
A game of Tekken when both players put the controllers down and go get a drink or something, and the characters just sort of stand there bouncing on their feet until the timer counts down.
Finally we have a fight more boring than the Gracie/Shamrock superfight.
Stand and Bland has been REDEFINED.

which martial art 4 manlit azn

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- Wed, 04 Jul 2018 01:44:47 EST Ygo4DXjh No.58051
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hi im 4'11 which mma to learn i was supose to do wing chun in highschool but i went get highg after school with frens im chinese btw haha thanks !!


I know kung fu

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!Ps1ivhrO6w - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:47:14 EST yLXQisN5 No.57944
File: 1507744034792.jpg -(24472B / 23.90KB, 450x403) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I know kung fu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-w17_1q7e4

ask me anything
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:26:37 EST xfsaelmX No.58039 Reply
I'm so high I thought for a few seconds that this was some kind of awkward looking kung fu but then realized it's just some kid being awkward.

That guy needs to work on his coordination, badly. He's so clumsy.
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James Te Huna - Wed, 16 May 2018 22:02:39 EST Io74PdUa No.58041 Reply
How big is Batis-shit wrong thread
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Jorge Masvidal - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 06:23:22 EST b4lzIJS8 No.58049 Reply
>>58039
He's so twitchy and unco, he may actually have some kind of condition, like OCD or Tourette's. The compulsive grip changing reminds me of a guy I used to work with who had to back up and get set before he performed any action. Like, between bagging individual chicken nuggets, before opening a toilet door, turning a tap...
Still, from the looks of his channel, he's improved over eight months, doing handstand pushups is bretty gud. So he's gonna be unco and ripped.

Scream Team

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- Mon, 04 Dec 2017 11:15:49 EST mpINBVh4 No.57964
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Is there any rule in MMA about how loud you can scream? I couldn't find one. Makes me wonder if this could be a useful technique. Say you are in half guard and you cup your mouth around your opponents ear and belt out a sound that could cause hearing lose and/or some discomfort to your opponent giving you enough time to execute a move while your opponent reels in pain from your sonic blast?

Are there any examples of people using screams as a weapon in combat sports?
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:17:03 EST xfsaelmX No.58038 Reply
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>>57964
Does this mean I can take people's eyes and throats out now?

What about groin shots?
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Cole Miller - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 21:03:43 EST By6MnPzl No.58046 Reply
What if I identify as a scorpion, do I get discriminated for my gender or do they let me take my roped kunai in the cage? Instead of going in the cage, can I just tell my opponent to get over here?

Suggestions for someone with a fused spine

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- Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:20:57 EST 4x3SXUKM No.57981
File: 1516033257438.jpg -(48178B / 47.05KB, 900x600) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Suggestions for someone with a fused spine
I know you get asked for recommendations a lot but my knowledge of martial arts is limited and I have a bit of an unusual problem. I have a disease that's fused/fusing my vertebrae, the bottom 1/4 of my spine is already fused to my pelvis.

How do I get power into strikes without having to use my spine? The only training I've had is boxing and that was as a kid. Are there any striking disciplines out there that would work well for me given my issues? And as far as learning to escape joint locks, is BJJ the best for that kind of thing?
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:59:26 EST ZAtknOX9 No.58024 Reply
>>57983
Consider supplementing GHK-cu. It's naturally in the body and should help with the inflammation in your condition.
>kung fu
As a Wizard, I'm just going to suggest you learn gun-fu instead, all things considered.
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:07:52 EST xfsaelmX No.58037 Reply
>>57982
No no no, the force has to cascade from your heel to the surface of your fist through every available muscle and joint in one fluid motion. Like cracking a whip, where your feet are the handle, and your hand is the tip. Whichever direction your body is oriented in is only a trifling matter of gravity. Ideally, you should probably be pointed towards your opponent as much as gravity allows.

OP, I would advise against martial arts and maybe take up firearms and get a concealed carry permit. Don't just try to work around your injury and think you'll be okay, you won't. You'll get wrecked.
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Jorge Masvidal - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 05:59:12 EST b4lzIJS8 No.58047 Reply
>>58037
That's the biomechanics behind a power lead, like Bruce Lee and Jack Dempsey. And even then your heel should be off the ground, you can't pivot flat-footed and will put your back out, like OP is trying to avoid.

UFC signs deal with ESPN for ESPN+ Platform

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- Tue, 08 May 2018 10:28:19 EST aN11/Grv No.58034
File: 1525789699735.jpg -(17281B / 16.88KB, 660x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. UFC signs deal with ESPN for ESPN+ Platform
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/23440573/ufc-espn+-reach-multiyear-media-rights-agreement

Well, this is certainly interesting. Deal takes affect starting January 2019 when UFC's old 8-year deal with Fox from 2011 runs out.
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Dustin Hazelett - Thu, 10 May 2018 05:42:12 EST aN11/Grv No.58036 Reply
Per Dave Meltzer:

>ESPN+ will be able to put up all UFC events from 1993 to 2018 up for archives. From 2018 on, they will be able to add their events, but not the events from another partner, nor PPV events, which Fight Pass will have. ESPN+ also won’t have access to the non-Fight Pass library of boxing, kickboxing and other MMA promotions like Pride, Strikeforce and WEC.

So it sounds like ESPN+ users will get a giant UFC archive with their sub at no extra cost. Fight Pass isn't completely dicked, though, as it will still have its own exclusive UFC events, as well as all of the non-UFC events it carries. Fight PAss will also still have exclusive archives of PRIDE and the other promotions UFC absorbed in the past, so no PRIDE NEVER DIE for ESPN+ users.

Meltzer also said the deal is $150 million per year for 15 events, making out for roughly $10 million paid for event, which is more than almost all UFC PPV's pull in buys except for the few mega cards. Meltzer speculates this might cause for less PPV's in 2019 in lieu of these ESPN+ events taking over for some old PPV slots, which means these ESPN+ events will likely be closer to PPV cards in terms of quality and title fights as opposed to FS1 and Fight Night exclusive snorefests.
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Jorge Santiago - Wed, 23 May 2018 10:26:41 EST iQgqpYL4 No.58043 Reply
>>58042

Yep, just saw the headline on ESPN.com. I wonder how this much spending will affect the rest of the network since cord-cutting and the crippling NFL deal have really bit them in the ass as of late.

History of Techniques

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- Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:41:40 EST vnohrc/6 No.58009
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I was watching a Texan pro wrestling match from the 1950s and this flappy boi pulls out what kinda looks like a prototype crucifix armbar/cross armbreaker. I've long considered it an "MMA" move and presumed it's innovation, or at popularization & appropriation by exhibitionists, was relatively recent (probably Brazilian). Now I'm wondering just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/? What about other common maneuvers? Any especially interesting timelines that've been taken for granted & forgotten?
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Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:38:39 EST dxQ7a5I7 No.58011 Reply
>>58009
AFAIK it's a Judo move. BJJ had a lot of Judo in its inception, the Japanese master who taught jujitsu to the Gracie patriarch was a member of the Kokodan.
Judo goes back to 1882, the arm-bar may be in Japanese jujitsu before that, and there's probably variations native to the catch-wrestling that pro-wrestling devolved from, as well as sombo, pancration, and any other country's martial arts and sports that explored submission-based groundwork.
Like Bruce Lee said, “I personally do not believe in the word style. Why? Because, unless there are human beings with three arms and four legs, unless we have another group of human beings that are structurally different from us, there can be no different style of fighting.”
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Junior Dos Santos - Wed, 09 May 2018 06:26:52 EST Rge49gpP No.58035 Reply
Pro wrestling as entertainment is based on the rules and techniques of the Combat sport called catch wrestling. Catch wrestling is what pro wrestling was when it was real.

It is oldest known to be a mishmash of European styles of local wrestling from throughout Scotland, Wales, and England, etc. both during that period and after there was a lot of cross pollination between styles as guys travelled through other countries from the Middle and Far East.

This kinda looks like a nonsense concession hold but the cross arm bar is a staple of all grappling arts as far back as you can go. It was often taught in localized Japanese systems of jiujitsu which have never been syllabized. Catch wrestling was also never syllabised which is why it almost nearly died out and has a murky history while judo and bjj flourished.

Bjj and judo are seperate martial arts which were separately syllabised from the common ancestor of Kano Jiujitsu, which was a collection of techniques encompassing ground grappling and throwing.

Might be interesting for you to know that the heel hook technique you see in pro wrestling or MMA is a native technique to the martial art of pro wrestling. You can still see the evidence in the name of the technique (“hook”, meaning incapacitating grappling technique, as by joint damage etc, old pro wrestling term). There are some other techniques with cross over terms between catch wrestling or pro wrestling as a martial art, and modern bjj or judo, where the techniques are the same or very similar but have seperate origins and names. Here’s some pro wrestling technique names and their modern title:

Sleeper = rear naked choke
Abdominal stretch = cobra twist = the twister
Front headlock = guillotine choke
Double wrist lock = Kimura lock
Cravat = baseballbat choke
Top wrist lock = Americana

There’s a bunch more.

In addition there are many techniques in catch wrestling which you still see today like the stf which many pro wrestling fans don’t realise are real applicable techniques in modern grappling.
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Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:31:41 EST xfsaelmX No.58040 Reply
>>58009
>What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/?
This is a better question for /his/

Short answer - Armbars are as old as arms.

Skinny Boxer

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- Mon, 28 Aug 2017 04:31:53 EST n8L/swSe No.57923
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I'm a skinny, 110lb 5'10 motherfucker who wants to learn how to box. Is there any point while I'm this skinny? Do I need to load on weight before I can start training? Also, do you generally go to a boxing teacher or is it something that they offer at gyms? I have amazing reaction times and have been told I can actually deliver a somewhat formidable punch, but I'm wondering if it's not gonna mean anything if I have to use my boxing skills on someone bigger than me. Any tips or general advice for someone looking to get into it?
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Tyson Griffin - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:54:11 EST w+FGDv0a No.57989 Reply
>>57923 I do box too and some of the better boxers of the gym are so fuckin thin and fast they scare the shit out of most of noobs. You should try it its great, its not a matter of weigh, just precision and power
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Karo Parisyan - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:57:07 EST prphjPSY No.58027 Reply
>>58012
The part about aligning your wrist to hit with the three smaller knuckles is gold. Try a wall push-up using that as your contact surface and you'll feel it.


Sup /mma/

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- Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:15:28 EST Io74PdUa No.58022
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What are MMA Phil's odds in his next fight? What do you think he'll do if he gets fucking murdered again?

State of UFC; McGregor is for casuals, deserves to be stripped of titles

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- Wed, 14 Feb 2018 05:19:45 EST 4+OemBtb No.57990
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Why the fuck has this dude not had to defend yet? Makes UFCS so degraded to be giving McGregor such a massive push just for the publicity he garners. I want Diaz to fuck him up again or let him be stripped of the belts and leave already.
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Dan Severn - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:21:06 EST MsJtnDMg No.58018 Reply
>TFW Connor, to quote Ernie Ladd, Dumbed himself outta position.

Wacky Irishman was probably fulla whiskey.
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Georges St-Pierre - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 23:57:29 EST 0tJR3wea No.58019 Reply
>>58018

Nah, he has coke money now. He's probably coked up at least 12 hours a day now.
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Phil Davis - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 11:25:25 EST NALQuK7O No.58020 Reply
>>58019
The shit he pulled in Bellator certainly looked like he was spending his days diving into a giant pile of cocaine like a gopher.

Shitter's broke

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- Fri, 08 Dec 2017 01:55:29 EST Gtc8JjWb No.57966
File: 1512716129881.jpg -(55497B / 54.20KB, 620x413) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Shitter's broke
https://www.f4wonline.com/ufc-news/georges-st-pierre-drops-ufc-middleweight-title-247591

Welp, so much for GSP-Whitaker.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:41:49 EST Q9GWBZm5 No.57971 Reply
It was not a matter of if GSP can stay healthy, it was a matter of when he’d no longer be healthy and drop the title.

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