History of Techniques View Thread Reply Hide Rick Story - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 10:41:40 EST vnohrc/6 No.58009 File: 1522334500211.gif -(3751980B / 3.58MB, 222x200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I was watching a Texan pro wrestling match from the 1950s and this flappy boi pulls out what kinda looks like a prototype crucifix armbar/cross armbreaker. I've long considered it an "MMA" move and presumed it's innovation, or at popularization & appropriation by exhibitionists, was relatively recent (probably Brazilian). Now I'm wondering just how deep the rabbit hole goes.What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/? What about other common maneuvers? Any especially interesting timelines that've been taken for granted & forgotten? 1 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:38:39 EST dxQ7a5I7 No.58011 Reply >>58009AFAIK it's a Judo move. BJJ had a lot of Judo in its inception, the Japanese master who taught jujitsu to the Gracie patriarch was a member of the Kokodan.Judo goes back to 1882, the arm-bar may be in Japanese jujitsu before that, and there's probably variations native to the catch-wrestling that pro-wrestling devolved from, as well as sombo, pancration, and any other country's martial arts and sports that explored submission-based groundwork.Like Bruce Lee said, “I personally do not believe in the word style. Why? Because, unless there are human beings with three arms and four legs, unless we have another group of human beings that are structurally different from us, there can be no different style of fighting.” >> Junior Dos Santos - Wed, 09 May 2018 06:26:52 EST Rge49gpP No.58035 Reply Pro wrestling as entertainment is based on the rules and techniques of the Combat sport called catch wrestling. Catch wrestling is what pro wrestling was when it was real.It is oldest known to be a mishmash of European styles of local wrestling from throughout Scotland, Wales, and England, etc. both during that period and after there was a lot of cross pollination between styles as guys travelled through other countries from the Middle and Far East.This kinda looks like a nonsense concession hold but the cross arm bar is a staple of all grappling arts as far back as you can go. It was often taught in localized Japanese systems of jiujitsu which have never been syllabized. Catch wrestling was also never syllabised which is why it almost nearly died out and has a murky history while judo and bjj flourished.Bjj and judo are seperate martial arts which were separately syllabised from the common ancestor of Kano Jiujitsu, which was a collection of techniques encompassing ground grappling and throwing.Might be interesting for you to know that the heel hook technique you see in pro wrestling or MMA is a native technique to the martial art of pro wrestling. You can still see the evidence in the name of the technique (“hook”, meaning incapacitating grappling technique, as by joint damage etc, old pro wrestling term). There are some other techniques with cross over terms between catch wrestling or pro wrestling as a martial art, and modern bjj or judo, where the techniques are the same or very similar but have seperate origins and names. Here’s some pro wrestling technique names and their modern title:Sleeper = rear naked chokeAbdominal stretch = cobra twist = the twisterFront headlock = guillotine chokeDouble wrist lock = Kimura lockCravat = baseballbat chokeTop wrist lock = AmericanaThere’s a bunch more.In addition there are many techniques in catch wrestling which you still see today like the stf which many pro wrestling fans don’t realise are real applicable techniques in modern grappling. >> Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:31:41 EST xfsaelmX No.58040 Reply >>58009>What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/?This is a better question for /his/Short answer - Armbars are as old as arms.
>> Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 10:38:39 EST dxQ7a5I7 No.58011 Reply >>58009AFAIK it's a Judo move. BJJ had a lot of Judo in its inception, the Japanese master who taught jujitsu to the Gracie patriarch was a member of the Kokodan.Judo goes back to 1882, the arm-bar may be in Japanese jujitsu before that, and there's probably variations native to the catch-wrestling that pro-wrestling devolved from, as well as sombo, pancration, and any other country's martial arts and sports that explored submission-based groundwork.Like Bruce Lee said, “I personally do not believe in the word style. Why? Because, unless there are human beings with three arms and four legs, unless we have another group of human beings that are structurally different from us, there can be no different style of fighting.”
>> Junior Dos Santos - Wed, 09 May 2018 06:26:52 EST Rge49gpP No.58035 Reply Pro wrestling as entertainment is based on the rules and techniques of the Combat sport called catch wrestling. Catch wrestling is what pro wrestling was when it was real.It is oldest known to be a mishmash of European styles of local wrestling from throughout Scotland, Wales, and England, etc. both during that period and after there was a lot of cross pollination between styles as guys travelled through other countries from the Middle and Far East.This kinda looks like a nonsense concession hold but the cross arm bar is a staple of all grappling arts as far back as you can go. It was often taught in localized Japanese systems of jiujitsu which have never been syllabized. Catch wrestling was also never syllabised which is why it almost nearly died out and has a murky history while judo and bjj flourished.Bjj and judo are seperate martial arts which were separately syllabised from the common ancestor of Kano Jiujitsu, which was a collection of techniques encompassing ground grappling and throwing.Might be interesting for you to know that the heel hook technique you see in pro wrestling or MMA is a native technique to the martial art of pro wrestling. You can still see the evidence in the name of the technique (“hook”, meaning incapacitating grappling technique, as by joint damage etc, old pro wrestling term). There are some other techniques with cross over terms between catch wrestling or pro wrestling as a martial art, and modern bjj or judo, where the techniques are the same or very similar but have seperate origins and names. Here’s some pro wrestling technique names and their modern title:Sleeper = rear naked chokeAbdominal stretch = cobra twist = the twisterFront headlock = guillotine chokeDouble wrist lock = Kimura lockCravat = baseballbat chokeTop wrist lock = AmericanaThere’s a bunch more.In addition there are many techniques in catch wrestling which you still see today like the stf which many pro wrestling fans don’t realise are real applicable techniques in modern grappling.
>> Duane Ludwig - Sat, 12 May 2018 07:31:41 EST xfsaelmX No.58040 Reply >>58009>What's the origin of the armbar, /mma/?This is a better question for /his/Short answer - Armbars are as old as arms.
Skinny Boxer View Thread Reply Hide Dan Severn - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 04:31:53 EST n8L/swSe No.57923 File: 1503909113127.png -(736975B / 719.70KB, 1024x1325) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm a skinny, 110lb 5'10 motherfucker who wants to learn how to box. Is there any point while I'm this skinny? Do I need to load on weight before I can start training? Also, do you generally go to a boxing teacher or is it something that they offer at gyms? I have amazing reaction times and have been told I can actually deliver a somewhat formidable punch, but I'm wondering if it's not gonna mean anything if I have to use my boxing skills on someone bigger than me. Any tips or general advice for someone looking to get into it? 2 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Tyson Griffin - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:54:11 EST w+FGDv0a No.57989 Reply >>57923 I do box too and some of the better boxers of the gym are so fuckin thin and fast they scare the shit out of most of noobs. You should try it its great, its not a matter of weigh, just precision and power >> Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:03:50 EST dxQ7a5I7 No.58012 Reply Best to start training while you're skinny, so you have to rely on technique rather than muscle for power.The muscle will grow naturally as you train, as long as you eat right.I recommend Jack Dempsey's book on boxing "Championship Fighting".https://archive.org/details/Championship_Fighting_Explosive_Punching_and_Aggressive_Defense_1950_Jack_DempseThis is the one Bruce Lee used. >> Karo Parisyan - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:57:07 EST prphjPSY No.58027 Reply >>58012The part about aligning your wrist to hit with the three smaller knuckles is gold. Try a wall push-up using that as your contact surface and you'll feel it.
>> Tyson Griffin - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:54:11 EST w+FGDv0a No.57989 Reply >>57923 I do box too and some of the better boxers of the gym are so fuckin thin and fast they scare the shit out of most of noobs. You should try it its great, its not a matter of weigh, just precision and power
>> Hidehiko Yoshida - Fri, 30 Mar 2018 11:03:50 EST dxQ7a5I7 No.58012 Reply Best to start training while you're skinny, so you have to rely on technique rather than muscle for power.The muscle will grow naturally as you train, as long as you eat right.I recommend Jack Dempsey's book on boxing "Championship Fighting".https://archive.org/details/Championship_Fighting_Explosive_Punching_and_Aggressive_Defense_1950_Jack_DempseThis is the one Bruce Lee used.
>> Karo Parisyan - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:57:07 EST prphjPSY No.58027 Reply >>58012The part about aligning your wrist to hit with the three smaller knuckles is gold. Try a wall push-up using that as your contact surface and you'll feel it.
What is the attendance ? View Thread Reply Hide Justin McCully - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:45:43 EST IuJOtoJ/ No.58021 File: 1523493943868.jpg -(166214B / 162.32KB, 1024x614) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. DICKS EVERYWHERE >> Bart Palazewski - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:22:41 EST Io74PdUa No.58023 Reply >>58021Is this that show that Sakuraba and Barnett wanna do? >> C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:26:44 EST HFqpkngE No.58026 Reply >>58023Yep
>> Bart Palazewski - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:22:41 EST Io74PdUa No.58023 Reply >>58021Is this that show that Sakuraba and Barnett wanna do?
Sup /mma/ View Thread Reply Hide Bart Palazewski - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:15:28 EST Io74PdUa No.58022 File: 1523574928019.png -(12483B / 12.19KB, 88x88) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What are MMA Phil's odds in his next fight? What do you think he'll do if he gets fucking murdered again?
State of UFC; McGregor is for casuals, deserves to be stripped of titles View Thread Reply Hide Chad Griggs - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 05:19:45 EST 4+OemBtb No.57990 File: 1518603585323.gif -(1615775B / 1.54MB, 480x264) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why the fuck has this dude not had to defend yet? Makes UFCS so degraded to be giving McGregor such a massive push just for the publicity he garners. I want Diaz to fuck him up again or let him be stripped of the belts and leave already. 12 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Dan Severn - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:21:06 EST MsJtnDMg No.58018 Reply >TFW Connor, to quote Ernie Ladd, Dumbed himself outta position. Wacky Irishman was probably fulla whiskey. >> Georges St-Pierre - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 23:57:29 EST 0tJR3wea No.58019 Reply >>58018Nah, he has coke money now. He's probably coked up at least 12 hours a day now. >> Phil Davis - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 11:25:25 EST NALQuK7O No.58020 Reply >>58019The shit he pulled in Bellator certainly looked like he was spending his days diving into a giant pile of cocaine like a gopher.
>> Dan Severn - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:21:06 EST MsJtnDMg No.58018 Reply >TFW Connor, to quote Ernie Ladd, Dumbed himself outta position. Wacky Irishman was probably fulla whiskey.
>> Georges St-Pierre - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 23:57:29 EST 0tJR3wea No.58019 Reply >>58018Nah, he has coke money now. He's probably coked up at least 12 hours a day now.
>> Phil Davis - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 11:25:25 EST NALQuK7O No.58020 Reply >>58019The shit he pulled in Bellator certainly looked like he was spending his days diving into a giant pile of cocaine like a gopher.
Shitter's broke View Thread Reply Hide James McSweeney - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 01:55:29 EST Gtc8JjWb No.57966 File: 1512716129881.jpg -(55497B / 54.20KB, 620x413) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. https://www.f4wonline.com/ufc-news/georges-st-pierre-drops-ufc-middleweight-title-247591Welp, so much for GSP-Whitaker. >> C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:41:49 EST Q9GWBZm5 No.57971 Reply It was not a matter of if GSP can stay healthy, it was a matter of when he’d no longer be healthy and drop the title.
>> C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 20:41:49 EST Q9GWBZm5 No.57971 Reply It was not a matter of if GSP can stay healthy, it was a matter of when he’d no longer be healthy and drop the title.
Ok Fowlkes View Thread Reply Hide Brett Rogers - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:34:22 EST mpINBVh4 No.57938 File: 1506065662246.jpg -(62395B / 60.93KB, 404x594) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do we feel about Ben Fowlkes? Or any Of the "so called /mms media. Talking shit, Pussy foot bjj faggotry, and just plain and simple pandering.But I want to know your thoughts. Seems nice enough >> Sergei Kharitonov - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 19:40:19 EST Wdf5U5yQ No.57940 Reply Is he one of the faggots who writes articles with twitter screenshots as a source? >> Luke Rockhold - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 02:44:51 EST mpINBVh4 No.57941 Reply Yeah, he's a big shit talking ass faggot. Kinda like a lot of the fools on this site. Big vocabulary and small ideas. >> Irgor Vovchanchyn - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:42:39 EST q/jt6e86 No.57962 Reply >>57938I listen to the CME podcast. pretty funny at times. what can i say, i like the guy.
>> Sergei Kharitonov - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 19:40:19 EST Wdf5U5yQ No.57940 Reply Is he one of the faggots who writes articles with twitter screenshots as a source?
>> Luke Rockhold - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 02:44:51 EST mpINBVh4 No.57941 Reply Yeah, he's a big shit talking ass faggot. Kinda like a lot of the fools on this site. Big vocabulary and small ideas.
>> Irgor Vovchanchyn - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:42:39 EST q/jt6e86 No.57962 Reply >>57938I listen to the CME podcast. pretty funny at times. what can i say, i like the guy.
Bellator View Thread Reply Hide Luiz Cane - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 23:26:20 EST l3fpxtsF No.57957 File: 1509247580438.jpg -(15426B / 15.06KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Better than UFC.
Waster/sparring swords advice. View Thread Reply Hide Yves Edwards - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 03:36:20 EST ou6mTjlB No.57953 File: 1508571380320.jpg -(13153B / 12.84KB, 350x313) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can you guys give me advice in choosing a good waster wooden sword?I bought one but i don't trust pine wood (also don't know much about swords or sparring), and i wanted to buy one for a friend (not too expensive) and maybe take some sparring lessons. >> Yves Edwards - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 03:41:06 EST ou6mTjlB No.57954 Reply Wrong board, i should have posted in weapons. >> Daniel Cormier - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:51:57 EST 8tG+FmR2 No.57955 Reply Ask Xarnhttp://bbs.readsicp.org/kareha.pl/1503181245/
>> Yves Edwards - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 03:41:06 EST ou6mTjlB No.57954 Reply Wrong board, i should have posted in weapons.
>> Daniel Cormier - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:51:57 EST 8tG+FmR2 No.57955 Reply Ask Xarnhttp://bbs.readsicp.org/kareha.pl/1503181245/
Chinese Martial Arts View Thread Reply Hide Ross Pearson - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:15:41 EST KbFo5A51 No.54759 File: 1417922141660.jpg -(570615B / 557.24KB, 2064x1718) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hi guys. This isn't strictly MMA related, but do we have any experienced CMA guys on here? I've been doing Tai Chi for a few years and love it, I love doing the forms and the push hands and everything.To make it more MMA related, why do you think we don't see more Sanda champions in UFC? 15 posts and 4 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Giant Silva - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 02:03:12 EST Af3B9fmB No.57770 Reply >>54856...Did you really just link to fucking Jake Mace as an example of 'real' Kung Fu? >> Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:05:05 EST 1S0evz47 No.57932 Reply >>54857THIS.I carry one baseball and one softball bat around with me at all times: My right and left shins, respectively. It hurt so fucking much, but thank you teenage self. If only flexibility lasted too. >> Marius Zaromskis - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 19:28:05 EST kcFBPVmr No.57952 Reply >>57932Do you condition them by just kicking the bag heavy without pads a lot or what?
>> Giant Silva - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 02:03:12 EST Af3B9fmB No.57770 Reply >>54856...Did you really just link to fucking Jake Mace as an example of 'real' Kung Fu?
>> Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:05:05 EST 1S0evz47 No.57932 Reply >>54857THIS.I carry one baseball and one softball bat around with me at all times: My right and left shins, respectively. It hurt so fucking much, but thank you teenage self. If only flexibility lasted too.
>> Marius Zaromskis - Thu, 19 Oct 2017 19:28:05 EST kcFBPVmr No.57952 Reply >>57932Do you condition them by just kicking the bag heavy without pads a lot or what?
seizures during fights? View Thread Reply Hide Dave Menne - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:58:29 EST JEjjj/Ks No.57937 File: 1506045509385.png -(253369B / 247.43KB, 500x500) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. So I watch A LOT of street fight videos online. There are many videos where one of the fighters will get knocked out and have a seizure. Without fail, countless people in the comment section of these fights say things like "oh he's dead" or "when they seize, that means there is severe brain damage!". My question is this.....is it normal for someone who is knocked out to experience a seizure? Is it a sure indication that some REAL damage has occurred, or do people just seize sometimes when they get knocked out, and get back up again minutes later just fine? >> Nick Diaz - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 15:12:22 EST Riog4cJg No.57942 Reply Full body convulsions maybe. That's your brain being properly scrambled. Just being out can be either probably. >> Melvin Manhoef - Sun, 08 Oct 2017 02:21:26 EST lRU1tK97 No.57943 Reply A kid at a school I went to for a year of HS had this happen in a fight. He got hit with the first punch right in the temple, fell, convulsed and died an hour later. The kid that fought him got a manslaughter charge. I don't know the how and why of it other than the brain is sensitive but I know it happens. >> Evan Dunham - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:48:59 EST iNRvwfyh No.57947 Reply I'd like to think hitting your head on concrete in a lot of these cases can play a factor. Even MMA rings have some give to them
>> Nick Diaz - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 15:12:22 EST Riog4cJg No.57942 Reply Full body convulsions maybe. That's your brain being properly scrambled. Just being out can be either probably.
>> Melvin Manhoef - Sun, 08 Oct 2017 02:21:26 EST lRU1tK97 No.57943 Reply A kid at a school I went to for a year of HS had this happen in a fight. He got hit with the first punch right in the temple, fell, convulsed and died an hour later. The kid that fought him got a manslaughter charge. I don't know the how and why of it other than the brain is sensitive but I know it happens.
>> Evan Dunham - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:48:59 EST iNRvwfyh No.57947 Reply I'd like to think hitting your head on concrete in a lot of these cases can play a factor. Even MMA rings have some give to them
Make it happen View Thread Reply Hide Josh Barnett - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:35:45 EST r0uLYntk No.57935 File: 1505802945400.jpg -(119649B / 116.84KB, 1280x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Charlie Zelenoff vs Jason Genova superfight when? >> [name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:42:26 EST AlHoPiWe No.57936 Reply 1505907746350.png -(116436B / 113.71KB, 346x342) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57935never, everyone knows any of the misfits would beat up Zelenoff
>> [name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:42:26 EST AlHoPiWe No.57936 Reply 1505907746350.png -(116436B / 113.71KB, 346x342) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >>57935never, everyone knows any of the misfits would beat up Zelenoff
Girlie low blow. View Thread Reply Hide Brian Stann - Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:15:34 EST ylYa8Aze No.57580 File: 1479280534544.jpg -(151249B / 147.70KB, 600x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Call it what you want. Call it a gash smash, a clam slam, a cunt punt. Will a girl fight ever be stopped for a slot shot? 22 posts and 7 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Yves Jabouin - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:18:25 EST BpdvMhyR No.57918 Reply >>57914>clueless virginsThis combined with having the internet raise them on anything related to sex. >> Chael Sonnen - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:32:05 EST ++tDEzsS No.57921 Reply >>57584That's why you can't fight if you have breast implants >> DaMarques Johnson - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 16:04:34 EST 0hnEkGHN No.57931 Reply >>57918Before the internet, up to half of rural boys had their first sexual experience with an animal.
>> Yves Jabouin - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:18:25 EST BpdvMhyR No.57918 Reply >>57914>clueless virginsThis combined with having the internet raise them on anything related to sex.
>> Chael Sonnen - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:32:05 EST ++tDEzsS No.57921 Reply >>57584That's why you can't fight if you have breast implants
>> DaMarques Johnson - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 16:04:34 EST 0hnEkGHN No.57931 Reply >>57918Before the internet, up to half of rural boys had their first sexual experience with an animal.
Who would win... View Thread Reply Hide Donald Cerrone - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 12:20:55 EST XtJyVSk6 No.57713 File: 1490890855892.jpg -(414317B / 404.61KB, 1935x1548) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What if these two had a MMA fight? Which would you bet on to win based only on the pics?Short hair: 6'0" 180lbsLong hair: 5'9" 170lbs 7 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Mark Kerr - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:43:27 EST 6njbme3W No.57798 Reply >Knowing how to throw a punch, an actual punchWord.I can throw my weight behind a punch, but my hand speed is slow. I trained myself to use momentum over speed, so while I generate alot of power, I don't generate as much force as a high velocity punch with weight behind it. It just doesn't feel natural to me. So basically I trained myself wrong. >> Alistair Overeem - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:03:12 EST N/uCiPs1 No.57842 Reply >>57798>le striking memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5i6j99Llshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YhR1DCvf9M&feature=youtu.be&t=131 >> Joe Stevenson - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 02:01:06 EST q+i+mRFo No.57909 Reply >>57798There's exercises that can help you get those fast-twitch muscle fibers on point. A lot of boxers shadow box using pull ropes so there's resistance going in the opposite direction.
>> Mark Kerr - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:43:27 EST 6njbme3W No.57798 Reply >Knowing how to throw a punch, an actual punchWord.I can throw my weight behind a punch, but my hand speed is slow. I trained myself to use momentum over speed, so while I generate alot of power, I don't generate as much force as a high velocity punch with weight behind it. It just doesn't feel natural to me. So basically I trained myself wrong.
>> Alistair Overeem - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:03:12 EST N/uCiPs1 No.57842 Reply >>57798>le striking memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5i6j99Llshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YhR1DCvf9M&feature=youtu.be&t=131
>> Joe Stevenson - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 02:01:06 EST q+i+mRFo No.57909 Reply >>57798There's exercises that can help you get those fast-twitch muscle fibers on point. A lot of boxers shadow box using pull ropes so there's resistance going in the opposite direction.
