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No Game Of Thrones in 2018 at all now?

- Mon, 06 Aug 2018 20:08:25 EST wncpYoYm No.401150
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Did I miss something? I could have sworn that season 8 was supposed to have started back in July, now IMDB says it doesn't air until some time in 2019. Was there some announcement that I never heard?
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 20:10:22 EST eiv+U+hY No.401151 Reply
Yeah production just wrapped up last month so not until next year
Enoch "Nucky" Thompson - Mon, 06 Aug 2018 22:11:24 EST 1LUlzS1I No.401153 Reply
HBO's dragging it out as much as possible because they have absolutely nothing to replace it with
Kyle Broflovksi - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 01:59:27 EST ToC3U7TL No.401156 Reply
Yeah that's been well known for ages.

Hopefully they get it right and make it epic.
Terrence Winters - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 05:29:35 EST NOvfgz0B No.401161 Reply
Can't you google this?

I saw it mentioned in the news last week, so it was announced maybe a week before that?
Rubeus Hagrid - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 05:45:04 EST gWP2VN8S No.401162 Reply
What can't you google? You know this is a discussion board right?
Phyllis "Pizzazz" Gabor - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 05:49:41 EST ReS6ZPPG No.401163 Reply
It's been known weeks after S7 ended that it was going to skip an entire year... Who knows why the fuck they did this, considering it's only 6 episodes long. How in the fuck did they manage to film 10 episodes every year, but now they need 2 years to film 6?

All I'm gonna say is it better be big. That's the only valid excuse, IMO. In the meantime, I'm rewatching the series over from the beginning. Figure if I do an episode or two once a week, the new season will be air just as I finish up.
Drake Mallard - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 06:14:00 EST vx99qAYk No.401164 Reply
It's probably because the massive, ever more expensive and famous cast have other shit they need to do with their lives.
Franklin Bluth - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:20:50 EST pi0vEuLm No.401165 Reply
I always assumed it was about dragging out their cash cow's demise for as long as possible
Skeletor - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 07:26:33 EST Mn19BObK No.401166 Reply
If anything its so they can figure out how to end it properly without it being an absolute piece of shit. ending something is incredibly hard, especially when so many people are invested in the story, the characters and the world.
Phyllis "Pizzazz" Gabor - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:43:52 EST ReS6ZPPG No.401168 Reply

I don't see how dragging it out makes their lives any easier. Just get it over with.
Rubeus Hagrid - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:56:57 EST gWP2VN8S No.401169 Reply
Didn't the show already outpace the books some time around the end of season 6? They may have needed the extra time to actually find out what George R. R. Martin was going to do to end all of this.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 22:04:36 EST jRjEOvBm No.401188 Reply
Yeah it’s its own thing now and not based on the books now. Martin gave the show an outline of how the show would go in case they got to the point that they couldn’t adapt anymore.
John Cleese - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 22:19:31 EST sh+F9mZ/ No.401189 Reply
GRRM is never gonna finish lol. The show will hit some basic plot points and fill in the rest with what is essentially fan fiction, like they've been doing for a few seasons more or less
Elvira - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 23:16:18 EST jlzVkYIO No.401190 Reply
They knew early on how the books were going to go. GRRM told them in case he died before the final books were published.
Stephen King - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 23:29:51 EST 1LUlzS1I No.401192 Reply
I mean yeah this is why. The name of the game for HBO is selling/maintaining those subscriptions and that's going to be a hell of a lot harder once their megashow Game of Thrones is gone and they have to rely on, I dunno, The Deuce or whatever
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 23:46:08 EST iMkyD6vm No.401193 Reply
It's pretty surprising that the way the show is gonna end hasn't been leaked, considering howmassive the show is.
Avery Bullock - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:05:48 EST GDbPIJfg No.401200 Reply
Didn't last season get leaked at some point? I have the memory of a frozen pea so I'm not sure that ever actually happened.
John Cleese - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:48:57 EST sh+F9mZ/ No.401201 Reply
Idk my brain is a wet potato from years of abuse but i think one or a few eps have leaked these past two seasons. One was a huge fuckup on the part of HBO Spain the other was like almost half a season, pretty sure that was an earlier season
Stephen King - Wed, 08 Aug 2018 02:40:07 EST 1LUlzS1I No.401203 Reply
not sure about episodes (although they did have almost half of season 5 leak back in the day) but I do remember there being a fairly detailed leaked plot synopsis for the entire season that ended up being virtually dead on
Amuro Ray - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 13:20:32 EST H8wdw5bt No.401281 Reply
yeah several episodes including the premier were up on sites before they aired on HBO.
Gene Wilder - Tue, 18 Sep 2018 07:55:54 EST 6Jm6iItZ No.402663 Reply
By doing its own thing with the showrunner's own vision?
S'not hard to think up a new "what happens next". Adaptations do it all the time in this situation.
Marvin the paranoid android - Tue, 18 Sep 2018 09:05:25 EST wdQmcWc/ No.402666 Reply
Okay, but do we fans really want that many seasons of Thrones? Isnt that what people hate The Walking Dead for, aimlessly plodding and not having an endgame to work towards? It feels like GRRM is just mad Robert Kirkman is making more money than him currently.
Oliver Hardy - Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:27:17 EST yV3ximT+ No.402694 Reply
I think most people do. The kind of people that still think the show is going in a good direction after the last couple seasons probably wouldn't mind an other 3 or 4 seasons of that quality.
Sala Baker - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 03:03:45 EST k7W4AVEw No.402808 Reply
There's tons of important shit they skipped over that could have made the show much longer. That's probably what he meant. He can't possibly be happy with the direction the show went and I doubt he'd want the writers having even more freedom to write the story... He's expressed it before but in a way as not to diss anyone. I think he wishes it was different but feels they still did a decent job of filling in the blanks, and probably takes some of the responsibility himself for not planning/predicting this.
Skeletor - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 06:50:32 EST wdQmcWc/ No.402811 Reply
>Martin on WInds Of Winter
>"I wish I'd been done four years ago, but I'm slow and the book is very complex"
>very complex
I think "very complex" is GRRM-speak for "It's gonna be four more years"
Porco Rosso - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:07:36 EST 3LSsKDGe No.402814 Reply
>probably goes on for 5 pages at a time describing food and massive dongs
KLEZ.fml !!cEQLOiCj - Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:58:28 EST dZQMLut5 No.402818 Reply
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IIRC, Davos Seaworth was the one who first leaked that this season would be delayed a year.

People making a big fuss of the delay have never watched The Venture Brothers.
Tim Minear - Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:18:24 EST k7W4AVEw No.402857 Reply
Well I'll admit I only read the first book so idk. But to imply it isn't complex is pretty silly
Geoffrey Rush - Mon, 24 Sep 2018 20:41:31 EST L/EfeV1E No.402885 Reply
I never understood the criticism for his descriptions of food. It's just one of the flourishes of his writing, I read the entire series without thinking it was a thing until I saw it was a meme online.

As for dongs, the sex in the books is WAY less gratuitous an awkward than it is in the series.
Dejah Thoris - Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:47:29 EST yV3ximT+ No.402887 Reply
I'll just say that I read through the entire series in a few weeks and never once had a complaint about his writing style. Didn't once notice lots of dicks or absurd descriptions. If he spent 3 pages describing food, he did it in such a well executed way that I didn't even notice that I had just read a 3 page description of a turkey leg.The only complaint that I had, and it wasn't minor but it wasn't major, was the fact that characters are sometimes left on cliffhangers and then you won't learn anything more for maybe hundreds of pages.
Emma Anna - Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:04:17 EST sh+F9mZ/ No.402888 Reply
yeah the people who bitch about that stuff base it entirely on that South Park episode or criticisms of the show. There's plenty of actual stuff to criticise though lol
Spock - Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:54:28 EST XVrowht5 No.402890 Reply
>There's plenty of actual stuff to criticise though
Like that fucking hat. Wtf George? You are NOT a grizzled fisherman from Maine.
Dirk Hardpec - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:09:40 EST jlzVkYIO No.402891 Reply
And yet James Fenimore Cooper can spend 10 pages describing a leaf or Melville's on the chapters The Advocate and Cetology or many other "classics" that do the very same thing get praised for it.
Alfred Hitchcock - Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:33:23 EST aueIoWvC No.402904 Reply
It's because they have no idea how to end the show, the guy who wrote it has no idea how to end his own books and the tv show writers probably don't either.
Commander John J Adams - Wed, 10 Oct 2018 04:24:42 EST e0chc/s7 No.403334 Reply
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Is it stalled because GRRM can't write faster?
Leslie Vernon - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:08:18 EST yV3ximT+ No.403377 Reply
I was thinking the other day, and I came up with a theory for why GRRM has taken so long with the latest book. I'm of the belief that he's been waiting for the show to end before he publishes it. If you think about it, it would make sense for the reader and potentially for his legacy.

For the reader, it would help a lot to differentiate between the worlds. He knew the show would probably end up way off and have dozens of threads that are stitched in different ways, making going back and forth between the book world and the show world really confusing. This could possibly keep some people from buying the book as well.
And in terms of his legacy, he might have wanted to be sure that he had the last say in how the real Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Fire) ends. It wouldn't take a psychic to guess that when translating something as complex and nuanced as his books to mass market on tv that a lot of things might be lost, dumbed down and/or replaced with more convenient or easy stories. So he might be wanting to safeguard his version by ensuring that it is distinct from the show universe and separating them like that could help.
That is not to mention that if he timed Winds of Winter to be published right after the show ends, it would probably sell like crazy with all that free publicity.

Anyway, that's just my guess. I think it makes sense and could also explain why he's basically been stringing his fans along for 5 years or so now. If when it was supposed to originally come out he came out and said "actually, I changed my mind. I'm not gonna publish it until the show is over in 6 or 7 years" he would have a lot of enraged fans. So better to just leave it up in the air. And I find it highly suspect that he originally projected it to release in 2014 and then when that came he just gave an extremely vague delay and all these years later we still haven't heard anything. I find it impossible to believe that he was that far behind his predicted schedule, lol. He's been putting it off purposefully. He's probably got it sitting in a safe.
Wikus van de Merwe - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 06:10:48 EST f5K4GDBe No.403378 Reply
This is what GRRM wants us to think. Sometimes the most simple answer is the one that's true: he's always been a slow writer and fame/pressure to write faster has only slowed his already glacial pace.

On topic of the books, I'm just learning about the book The World Of Ice And Fire. Is it worth reading? I guess it's more a history book than a novel, but is it still an entertaining read for Thrones fans? Does it come off like a collection of short stories about the past, or is it just a bland desprictions of boring old shit. Apparently Martin has a new book coming soon in the same style as this book only about the Targaerean royal history, so someone must be reading these things.
Bill Hicks - Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:07:02 EST sh+F9mZ/ No.403383 Reply
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GRRM has a couple of series of novellas in the same universe. There's the Targ dynasty ones which I haven't checked out, and the Tales of Dunk and Egg which follow Ser Duncan the Tall and his squire Egg, the future king Aegon the Unlikely, during the aftermath of the Blackfyre rebellions some 90 years before the main series. These are fun! A little more lighthearted and you get more history and cameos from people of legend. There are graphic novel versions of Dunk and Egg, but the art isn't great and you miss out on some stuff.

As for A World of Ice and Fire, I haven't read it, but it's basically an encyclopedia written from the perspective of varies maesters. I hear it's interesting and a bit of fun because of the varying degrees of reliability when it comes to entries.

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