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Star Wars Episode IX

- Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:32:56 EST poBJQDzI No.406013
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For those of you who still care about Star Wars. The latest movie poster was recently leaked for Episode IX which is due for release in the latter half of this year. Along with it an image depicting some of the new attires for the main heroes.

It makes me wonder, though, when the trailer is going to be released and if we're going to get a sub-title soon.
Edward Norton - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:34:42 EST poBJQDzI No.406014 Reply
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I am sort of digging the new attire for Rey. It sort of reminds me of farmboy Luke mixed in with Padmé's armband from her Geonosis get-up.
Alex Kingston - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:53:24 EST MyBydNCn No.406015 Reply
It just looks so generic that it's hard to feel any interest based of this alone. Like yeah, there's the Star Wars stuff I recognize.

I mean there's a new dumb looking CGI alien and I guess C3PO will hold a bowcaster for a few seconds for a big comedy moment but otherwise it looks like a retread of the other movies.

Hopefully the trailer is more interesting.
Alex Kingston - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:55:05 EST MyBydNCn No.406016 Reply
Oh and apparently Lando's back so there's another Thing That I Recognize.

I have a feeling this one is going to course correct real hard to be "safe" and familiar.
Terrence Winters - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:53:06 EST ZQBixsfR No.406018 Reply
They may as well bring him back, cause none of those other fuckers are even remotely interesting at this point.
Master Pycelle - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 22:51:55 EST zGs4WKzA No.406019 Reply
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>They may as well bring him back, cause none of those other fuckers are even remotely interesting at this point.

ye, but I'll hang in there, cause well, it's Star Wars
makes me want to watch the first ones again, for purely nostalgic reasons
Master Pycelle - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 23:07:08 EST zGs4WKzA No.406022 Reply
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Edward Norton - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 23:31:17 EST poBJQDzI No.406023 Reply
How do you know it's another retread when nobody knows what the story is about?
Edward Norton - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 23:35:47 EST poBJQDzI No.406024 Reply
The chase dynamic of The Last Jedi was interesting. It was like reliving Battlestar Galactica. The whole fallen hero thing was intriguing as well and that standoff between him and his family member was a pretty memorable moment in Star Wars. I am beginning to think there were more memorable movies from the "worst one" than there was from The Force Awakens.
The Lich - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 02:08:18 EST 35StH1FX No.406025 Reply
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Poor Finn is always flanked by disaster. The fish man looks like mutated Stuey from the end of Freaked and Battle Gear C-3P0™ looks like an accidental mash-up of Threepio and Chewbacca.

Also Rey lookslike brunette She-Ra who misplaced her crown and BB-8 should get that growth checked out.
Toki Wartooth - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:42:27 EST wAEnvReZ No.406028 Reply
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Toki Wartooth - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 05:53:32 EST wAEnvReZ No.406032 Reply
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Rey lookslike brunette She-Ra who misplaced her crown and BB-8 should get that growth checked out.
Toki Wartooth - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 06:02:24 EST wAEnvReZ No.406034 Reply
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How did Finn think about crawling after her seeing that ass?
Saint-Exmin - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 08:50:30 EST 8y/4Ug/Y No.406036 Reply
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I look forward to hearing what super important business those Knights of Ren there were away on during these pivotal events and why they're dressed like a Tusken Raider Addams Family.
Logan Cale - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 09:11:40 EST DmNxgJoE No.406037 Reply
is that even a real poster? Looks like something a fan threw together to trick the interwebs
Mothmonsterman - Thu, 28 Mar 2019 20:00:18 EST 9fFFN3s5 No.406039 Reply
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>there's a new dumb looking CGI alien
Earl's looking rough these days.
Crunch Buttsteak - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 17:20:29 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406099 Reply
What's up with the red Storm Troopers?

I'm hoping that Hux and Kylo begin some civil war.
Joanne Kelly - Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:54:34 EST 3IcjeqHq No.406100 Reply
Looks like they have new ships with some type of shield tech in the wing?
Han Solo could already warp in close to a planet, they make bombs that warp in really close to ships. Sure they don't seem really tech savvy in Star Wars and it seems like it was all a guess when to jump in/out of hyperspace but some bombs would at least make it.
Jack Black - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 02:03:58 EST poBJQDzI No.406103 Reply
Why would they start a civil war when Kylo Ren is now the Supreme Leader in charge of the entire First Order which, if I am not mistaken, controls almost the entire galaxy now. I do hope we see some familiar planets in this movie just so it could feel like a Star Wars film since everything is new.
Frodo Baggins - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 02:10:07 EST +KtytNCx No.406104 Reply
>Why would they start a civil war when Kylo Ren is now the Supreme Leader in charge of the entire First Order

Cuz the franchise ain't called "Star Peace"
Jack Black - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 02:20:29 EST poBJQDzI No.406105 Reply
Did you miss the part in the last movie where it was stated that the "Rebellion was born again?"

The First Order has their hands full with rebellions.
Skandar Keynes - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 13:21:50 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406113 Reply
The way I understand it, the First Order is simply the biggest dog in town now they decapitated the New Republic, which I suppose was composed out of Old Republic remnants and Imperial defectors.

Now that the First Order has blown up the New Republic and has almost wiped out the Rebels, there are only small isolated groups that stand in their way.

The anti-First-Order forces are still bigger than the First Order, but they're not united. Also, there are fuckloads of Imperials that fled away from the galaxy, and those lads could technically still come back.

Whatever happens, Disney isn't going to finish it all up in the next film.
Richard Dunn - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:54:13 EST ChWueCf8 No.406118 Reply
>Whatever happens, Disney isn't going to finish it all up in the next film.

This. And even if they do, there is no way in hell that it'll be an ending so satisfying, so necessary, so conclusive, so definitive, that it will make this exercise in erasing the proper end of the Skywalker story and the story of the Galactic Civil War as we knew it worthwhile.

And this is from a guy who liked TFA and TLJ. They're fine entertainment, with some genuinely great moments, but as a continuation of Star Wars they haven't justified their existence and trying to do it now will wind up like waiting till the last minute to finalize Brexit.
Diana - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:29:26 EST poBJQDzI No.406120 Reply
In twenty years time when the next trilogy comes out there are going to be people bitching that those movies aren't like these. It's the prequel effect.>>406118
Diana - Mon, 01 Apr 2019 23:30:04 EST poBJQDzI No.406121 Reply
I'm fairly certain the origins of this New Republic is the same as in Legacy. The writers even said that they took inspiration from the old expanded universe.
Allan Smithee - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 00:13:45 EST jMRO0efd No.406122 Reply
>In twenty years time when the next trilogy comes out
>twenty years

goodness the naiveté
Rupert Giles - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 01:25:05 EST Ifb7SsHb No.406123 Reply

> What's up with the red Storm Troopers?

The plastic in their suits changed colour when they were all exposed to lethal doses of radiation. Most of the movie will focus on how the storm troopers and their families deal with grief and personal loss.
Sil - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 11:48:52 EST eC9hz/vo No.406128 Reply
Luke went to into exile to find the original Jedi temple and left a map split up to find him.

Then when someone finds him and hands him his fathers old lightsaber he tosses it and ignores them like it's a MAD TV sketch.
Johnathan E - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:37:18 EST kfUhs9ML No.406129 Reply
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I'm afraid I'm quite done with your shit, Master Ren.
Mae Whitman - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 15:38:32 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406132 Reply
No joke, I'd watch a military law drama about former Stormtroopers taking their commanding officers to a New Republic court after the fall of the Empire.

It's a shame that Star Wars has always been that retarded kid that can't function without a toy gun in their hands, because as franchises like B5, BSG and ST show, you can do some great shit with the genre when you just leave the "aliens n big laser 'splosions" scifi ghetto.
Cujo - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 15:58:29 EST MyBydNCn No.406133 Reply
>No joke, I'd watch a military law drama about former Stormtroopers taking their commanding officers to a New Republic court after the fall of the Empire.
Are you thinking like the Bonus Army march, in space?

Or more like the Nuremberg trials, in space?

Either one would be pretty fun to see.
Astro Boy - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 18:07:53 EST p/EW64/D No.406138 Reply
Star wars once was meh.
now is absolute trash. Good work, Disney.
Oh Dae-Su - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:09:21 EST poBJQDzI No.406140 Reply
You're just saying it's trash because you're one of those adults who still think anything new that is related to your childhood is going to be the same when it's obviously going to be made to attract newer audiences. If you're an adult who continues to watch Star Wars as a means of reconnecting with your youth and who acknowledges that it's going to be different because the writers and producers want to attract a modern audience then that's comletely fine. But when you're bitching about it being different because hurr the originals then you're rworded. This is the same shit that went down with the prequels and now people are calling those films golden. Enough so that Anakin Skywalker's rotting burning body is going to make a cameo appearence in Episode IX.

You are likely one of those people who say nobody is going to remember Rey or Kylo Ren. Yet I see many little girls out there wearing Rey shirts or little boys wearing Kylo Ren shirts. Clearly these films still reached the younger demographics and that means when they grow up to be cynical adults they are going to whine and bitch about how the latest trilogy isn't like Episodes VII, VIII, or IX. Star Wars has the most enthusiastic horrid fanbase. They're not as bad as Sonic fans or other obnoxious fandoms, but they're entitled whiny brats who border along the line of being toxic. Of course, you'll likely be one of those people who look back in hindsight and then say these films are kino. Basically fuck off with this bullshit. It's old and unamusing.
Oh Dae-Su - Tue, 02 Apr 2019 22:12:18 EST poBJQDzI No.406141 Reply
You know the reason for why he does that was addressed in the movie. He came to a realization that the Jedi needed to end. I'm sure upon such revelation he could have found himself with some anger which lead to resentment of who he was and what the Jedi represent. It's not like anger and the dark side aren't steeped into the Skywalker blood line. Luke clearly was angry when Vader started talking about his sister when he confronted him in VI. Though now Luke is the only one who didn't completely turn to the dark side.
Chiana - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 00:51:23 EST eivshAlU No.406148 Reply
>nobody is going to remember Rey or Kylo Ren

When people say that they mean "nobody that matters."
Toby Jones - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 07:09:45 EST B0BN1Pvs No.406153 Reply
To be fair i rewatched the old star wars series recently and it was fucking awful, bad acting, bad story, sound in space only darth vader was pretty cool but it's not easy to fuck up a character like that

nb because i don't really care, to each his own.
Ally Sheedy - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 10:51:22 EST MyBydNCn No.406156 Reply
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>Star Wars has the most enthusiastic horrid fanbase. They're not as bad as Sonic fans or other obnoxious fandoms
Hey, at least Sonic fans are amusingly cringey. There's a certain endearing earnestness that comes from their juvenile art and weird sexual pathologies, and from knowing that a lot of them are just odd teenagers working some shit out.

Star Wars fans don't even have the bizarre childlike novelty that Sonic fans do, their fandom is just humorless toxic garbage from old men who should know better.
The Doctor - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 18:35:17 EST xkosFFTZ No.406161 Reply
Agreed. When people rave about them, I try to put myself in the shoes of someone living in the 80s seeing them when they were cutting edge stuff to have happening in cinema. But for me, it's just one of many old movie franchises that I've seen and slightly enjoyed.
Raven Darkhölme - Wed, 03 Apr 2019 20:42:20 EST Ifb7SsHb No.406162 Reply
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Absolutely. There's so much fantastic source material out there, but Hollywood just keeps scraping the same barrels until they manage to dig into the earth and hit the septic bed.

There are some good ones still coming out, Arrival and Ex Machina were great (haven't seen Annihilation yet). I think in the long term though the movie theatre experiences is just going to get dumber and dumber until it collapses under it's own weight.
Malin Åkerman - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 09:17:18 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406165 Reply
Annihilation is really good. It's structured a bit weird though - not bad weird, mind you.

It's a scifi-horror film about scientists surviving and researching a hostile alien ecosystem yes, but the story is pretty much a drama about, I quote "depression, grief and the human propensity for self-destruction". But underneath all that, there's a strong additional horror layer of implied cosmic horror.

Fucking funny though, he was playing in Star Wars The Last Jedi and Annihilation at the same time since they were both being filmed in the UK.

Also, Annihilation is actually a great example of how (scifi) films aren't as clear-cut as you view them. Annihilation didn't do very well in American cinemas (perhaps because Americans don't like dem thinky-thinky scifi films or because the studio self-sabotaged it), but it did well in the rest of the Western world. It also did very well on Netflix. I mean, it's one of their major attractions. I joined Netflix, and Annihilation was one of the first films that got suggested to me.
Aeryn Sun - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 11:03:22 EST oa2mmJAW No.406166 Reply
>he was playing in Star Wars The Last Jedi and Annihilation at the same time since they were both being filmed in the UK.
Kenneth Parcell - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 12:04:22 EST 7TbzbMG3 No.406167 Reply
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Oscar Issac, who was in both.
Jackie Earle Haley - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 17:01:10 EST p/EW64/D No.406170 Reply
I said the original was meh but you're speaking like I'm a megafan who is scared of change. I just don't like it, it's a very generic "epic" and the characters are boring and not compelling. At least the original had some pretty good stories that hooked people. I was never hooked though. I really only watched them about 5 years ago for real. Watched 4, 5 and 6 back to back and was really put off by the way the tone would jump around. One movie would end on a really dark note then the next would start on a fart joke. And the writing isn't very good, it often feels like some low tier straight to tv movie shit. I feel like in 99/100 alternate dimensions, Star Wars is not a mega franchise but just some campy trash sci fi movie with a cult following.
Jackie Earle Haley - Thu, 04 Apr 2019 17:05:07 EST p/EW64/D No.406171 Reply
But yeah, Star Wars didn't even exist as a part of my childhood so your projecting is a bit off base broseph.
Mr. Bean - Fri, 05 Apr 2019 21:07:31 EST vpTpAiCq No.406187 Reply
Surely you weren't expecting integrity from a gawker website?
Dobby the house elf - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:03:48 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406189 Reply
>say's he's not a megafan
>still makes fucking three (almost four, hehehehehe, four... fukken faggot) consecutive posts

Are you sure you're not that faggot that's running a monologue thread on SW a few posts down?
Adam West - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:37:34 EST p/EW64/D No.406191 Reply
Idk if you've ever been high but sometimes I have unfinished thoughts when I'm high. And I'm sorry the news update hurt your feelings so much, but come on. Everyone loves a spectacle, and watching his massive shitstain movie studio crash and burn and blow billions of dollars is beautiful. Why are you so loyal to Scumbag antisemitic Disney? Are you, yourself, an antisemite?
Adam West - Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:41:54 EST p/EW64/D No.406192 Reply
Oh look, I did it over here too. >>406168
It's actually a pretty common occurrence for me. Wait! I'm doing it again!?

Negro I have add and I'm on drugs, but you're the one weaving conspiracy theories to explai ulterior motives for why someone might not like the new Star Wars movies. Jesus Christ, and I thought I was mentally ill.
Wendell T. Stamps - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 09:44:01 EST eC9hz/vo No.406243 Reply
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You say explanation, I say character assassination. It was both the biggest and most unnecessary 180 on a character in movie history. Even Luke's actor is furious about the route they went with his character.

If you can't tell Disney is raping Star Wars, me and Mark Hamil feel sorry for you.
Jean-Luc Picard - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 13:21:24 EST XmfUvR2f No.406244 Reply
>It was both the biggest and most unnecessary 180 on a character in movie history.
A bigger 180 than when Anakin became a genociding death knight loyal servant of an evil wizard, for no other reason then because he had a bad dream?

Or when Anakin did another 180 and murdered that same evil wizard because he hurt someone that he himself had been perfectly happy to mutilate the previous movie?
Klaus Heisser - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 14:28:48 EST SvA0ZF7u No.406247 Reply
>this is the most X ever
>"actually here's an example that is more X"
>hurrr whataboutism
That's not actually what that word is supposed to mean.
Wendell T. Stamps - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:45:37 EST eC9hz/vo No.406249 Reply
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First of all the dark side is like the ring in Lord of The Rings. Its always whispering in your ear, tempting you to "put it on", and takes a lifetime of training of self-restraint, rigorous mental discipline, and emotional detachment to resist it. Every day in a Jedi's life is a constant struggle to resist being "seduced" by the dark side, as Obi-Wan put it in A New Hope. You don't understand these movies, it was a lot more than "one bad dream".

Also Vader was Palpatine's slave, he wanted to kill him since day 1 of being in the suit, it makes sense to throw him down a reactor shaft. He just had so much control over his mind that it was hard to do, hence the "You do not know the power of the dark side. I MUST obey my master" line in ROTJ. He needed Luke's love to overcome The Emperor's dark chains of eternal servitude. The Emperor delighted in causing Vader as much pain as possible, he was 100% pure evil. Of course he would murder him. How is that a 180?

The Jedi were holding Anakin back from his true power, told him his mom had to remain a slave just because of their shitty rule that Jedi can't have relationships, and he was more emotional than other Jedi because of being accepted into the order at a late age. And he wasn't the most stable human to start with. Obi-Wan failed to be a good father figure for him, where as Palpatine was and was manipulating him from day one, telling him he was destined to be the most powerful Jedi ever and that the council fears his power. It made sense to side with him, he didn't know The Emperor would betray him to take pleasure in his torment.

You don't get these movies. And neither does Disney.
Cate Blanchett - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:54:50 EST poBJQDzI No.406250 Reply
It wasn't charactered assassination regardless of how much you cry.
Kazaam - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 16:02:41 EST MyBydNCn No.406252 Reply
>You don't get these movies.
To be fair I don't think anyone "gets" these movies quite like you do.
Eddard Stark - Mon, 08 Apr 2019 18:53:31 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406255 Reply
Basically, what you're saying is George Lucas is a hack who can't write shit?
Jake the Dog - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:36:59 EST eC9hz/vo No.406272 Reply
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The sequel era literally just restored the status quo of the OT. It isn't distinguishable from the OT in any way other than time. Hot fucking garbage.

Literally OT but with shittier characters, shittier villains, shittier locations, shittier everything.
Cindy McPhearson - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 19:30:08 EST poBJQDzI No.406275 Reply
That image doesn't make sense. Why would Obi-Wan be against that logic? He's the one who said there are alternatives to fighting.
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Yeah and there were fucking seven films of fighting, didn't seem to solve much
Tobias Fünke - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:00:38 EST MyBydNCn No.406278 Reply
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Also he's the one who famously demonstrated that sometimes true power comes from choosing not to fight back.
Christopher Eccleston - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:46:32 EST eC9hz/vo No.406280 Reply

He died so he can fight from beyond the grave in a way, by guiding Luke's hand to destroy the death star. Help Luke fight the empire.
Tobias Fünke - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 20:57:10 EST MyBydNCn No.406282 Reply
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Yes. For him, in that moment, he figured in the long run that's how they're gonna win. Not fighting.

And that's how the protagonist wins the whole thing, at the very end. Not fighting.

That's the point.
Christopher Eccleston - Tue, 09 Apr 2019 23:07:25 EST eC9hz/vo No.406285 Reply

Him and Yoda kept telling him to kill Vader, Luke was the one with the idea not to fight.
Buffy Summers - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 02:40:07 EST zjpRuc+k No.406289 Reply
>For those of you who still care about Star Wars.

what's wrong with you?
Sharon Esther Spitz - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 10:33:03 EST p/EW64/D No.406296 Reply

If you don't care about this manchild franchise anymore, there's obviously something wrong with you. Plus, didn't you see??? They're about good politics...
Bill Haverchuck - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:07:19 EST eC9hz/vo No.406309 Reply

GURL POWER YAY! Like how Rey knows more about how the Millennium Falcon works than Han does despite her never being on it before and him owning it for over 40 years. And how she's a master of the Jedi Mind Trick a few hours after even learning the force even exists, and Luke still couldn't pull it off after 4 years of Jedi training. Its all a ploy to sell toys to little girls, even though in the past Star Wars was always kind of a boys club with the occasional cool chick here and there. They're fucking the old audience to try and make a new one.

Black and female storm troopers. George Lucas said he intentionally made everyone in the empire a white male to make them more scary. And it worked, the empire was scary because of that. But Disney says fuck the background elements of the plot, we need to expand our audience.

Makes me sick.
Ka D'Argo - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:45:35 EST poBJQDzI No.406310 Reply
None of the things you listed there relates to social justice warriors. The closest thing there was the "GIRL POWER YAY!" but that existed long before anything related to SJWs started up.

They are also explainable within universe as well.

> Rey knows more about how the Millennium Falcon works.

Hit and miss. The canon explanation is that she is some nerd who learned about ships through a simulator that she savaged among the dunes of Jakku.

> her never being on it before

She likely figured it out because of those past experiences though this is likely the one of the only things you could complain about.

> him [Han] owning it for over 40 years.

C'mon, Star Wars boy, you should know this one. Han wasn't in possession of the falcon for forty years. The two of them separated in Return of the Jedi when Lando Calrissian took it to fight in the Battle of Endor against the Death Star. It's clearly obvious that this time Lando never returned it to Han and either sold it to another owner or lost it somehow leading to the owner during Episode VII being someone from Jakku. Oh and by the way, Millennium Falcon wasn't the only Corellian YT-1300 light freighter in existence. You can also see one in the background during a scene in Episode III. This also makes it more likely for a schematic to be within that simulator Rey found for that canonical explanation.

> And how she's a master of the Jedi Mind Trick a few hours after even learning the force even exists,
The Jedi Mind Trick seems like basic level shit so I'm not sure why you think it's some advanced technique and Rey wasn't going to discover the force's existence in the second movie. This can also be said for Luke who likely learned about the force's existence even quicker in A New Hope than Rey in The Force Awakens. Also, you're comparing two different people like they're supposed to be the same entity. You know everybody masters a skill differently and we don't all go at the same pace.

> Its all a ploy to sell toys to little girls
I take back what I said earlier. This is the most accurate thing you've said here.

> even though in the past Star Wars was always kind of a boys club with the occasional cool chick here and there.
This sentence makes it seem like you're crying because you don't have that boys only club anymore since girls invaded your space. I get the sense that you never really cared about Princess Leia Organa or Padmé Amidala until now since you're also admitting there were "occasional cool chicks" in the franchise. Well, Star Wars is now being made for a more general audience, so I suppose you can keep crying.

> They're fucking the old audience to try and make a new one.
The old audience who endorsed bullshit expanded universe shit like bunny rabbits or lightsaber knees, right? The kind of neckbearded folk who alienate themselves into thinking Star Wars is some kind of religion so they could have an excuse in not socializing? Good riddance, let them cry.

> Black and female storm troopers.
Why would a military operation limit their solider count by only allowing in one specific demographic? And the stormtroopers in the original trilogy all wore masks because it's an old writing technique to where they don't have to worry about people sympathizing with them. They all end up emotionless robots in the eyes of the audience.

> George Lucas said he intentionally made everyone in the empire a white male to make them more scary.
Citation needed.

> And it worked, the empire was scary because of that.
You're scared of the Galactic Empire because they were white males? lol Not because they were an authoritarian society that decided that all forms of democracy was pointless and decided to be ruled by an all-powerful Emperor who decides what is best for everybody? Or even the fact that they have been known to enslave entire races or planets? Okay, you're just afraid of white men apparently.

I am starting to get the impression that you're just mad that there are girls in the franchise because of the logic, "girls are icky" and desire a "no girls allowed" fort that you would have constructed out of mattresses and blankets as a child. I've seen your kind before. Searching for any excuse you could make to get passed your fairly obvious misogyny (uh oh, trigger warning!) then get uber-mad (uh oh, another trigger warning!) whenever someone calls you out on it. Yeah, well, mate, you are coming off as misogynistic when you start a post off with "GURL POWER YAY!" and end it with "Makes me sick." You don't have to read much further into that one to know you might have kind of a big issue with more girls in one of your "boys only" fan clubs. So just to trigger you further, misogyny misogyny misogyny misogynist misogyny. I hope you have a good day.
Geoffrey Rush - Wed, 10 Apr 2019 23:58:44 EST YzmdH4xc No.406311 Reply
As a lefty I don't like how the new movies have actually lost alot of their political edge. The Empire was not just a stand in for Nazi Germany but also for Nixon's America at the time, with George Lucas, who was fully against not just the wars in Southeast Asia but American imperialism in general, intentionally basing the Rebels on the Vietcong, with the movies being about, in his words, “A large technological empire going after a small group of freedom fighters". Even the prequels were explicitly about the descent of a decadent republic into full on fascist imperialism.

The new movies pretty much gloss over all of that except for a few surface level nods here and there.
Tarsem Singh - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:47:11 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406315 Reply
I dunno mate. Commander Hux gets introduced in a scene taken almost frame-by-frame from Leni Riefenstahl.

That's not a surface level nod mate.
Tom Peters - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:15:32 EST p/EW64/D No.406316 Reply
It's not about the movie actually being about social justice or progressive politics or whatever.
It's about Disney saying that they are and using that to shield itself from actual criticism. It's a big trend right now.
Tarsem Singh - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:39:15 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406318 Reply
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>actual criticism
>star wars film
>literally just flash gordon with a trillion dollar budget
Tom Peters - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 09:57:29 EST p/EW64/D No.406319 Reply
So you can't criticize something that's stupid? I don't follow your logic, friend.
Tarsem Singh - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:10:14 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406320 Reply
I've seen enough "star wars" criticism to know where this is heading.

Bunch of enthusiastic cunts taking their EU shit way too seriously and getting mad that Disney is you know... making Flash Gordon meets KOTOR with a trillion dollar budget.
Tom Peters - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:12:04 EST p/EW64/D No.406321 Reply
I imagine what you mean is "I've done enough cherry picking to make a group of people match my preconceived notions"
Tom Peters - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:13:07 EST p/EW64/D No.406322 Reply
People who criticize the new star trek show are branded with the same label, but it's harder for people to say Discovery doesn't warrant any criticism. Same tactics though. You're buying into a billion dollar companies marketing tactics.
Dr. Strangelove - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 10:41:35 EST J0ZLUBia No.406323 Reply
>C'mon, Star Wars boy, you should know this one.
>I get the sense that you never really cared about Princess Leia Organa or Padmé Amidala until now
I think it's pretty clear that this guy doesn't actually like Star Wars so much as he likes the idea of being a Star Wars fan.

Supposedly he doesn't like cynical commercialization, Mary Sues, overly convenient plot contrivances, liberal politics, strong female characters, heel/face turns, or the idea of challenging patriarchal authority figures from the previous generation. Things that, for better or worse, have always been defining hallmarks of the Star Wars series. Plus he keeps forgetting basic facts about the movies and keeps getting plot details wrong.

But... Star Wars is also an established universal normie symbol for Nerd Culture™. It's been accepted by neckbeard gatekeepers as an approved franchise to base your "real" not a chick consumer identity around, and he wants the street cred of being an old school nerd. So he's convinced himself that he's the biggest fan of a franchise that frankly seems to represent everything he hates, and always has.

Because, like you say, his generation of nerds still sees Star Wars as a "boys only" treehouse, so pretending he likes this thing he hates gives him an excuse to yell at girls.
Tarsem Singh - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:18:23 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406324 Reply
The anti-Star Wars community is reminding me a lot of the '00s Doom community and the '00s DragonballZ community.

You know, kids too young to have played Doom when it came out, or watched the original DBZ broadcasts.
Saul Goodman - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:09:54 EST oa2mmJAW No.406326 Reply
Your theory is that people who don't like Star Wars are just anyone who was too young to see Star Wars when it came out in 1977?
I think it's statistically unlikely that there are many fifty-five or-greater year olds in this thread.
Bill Haverchuck - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:12:28 EST eC9hz/vo No.406328 Reply

>Black stormtroopers and female stormtroopers

I meant the Imperials without masks, and Lucas said they're supposed to be similar to Nazis, why didn't they hire minority soldiers? Same reason. The "Empire" isn't scary anymore.
Ricky Gervais - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:15:08 EST h6PZxEoz No.406329 Reply
My mom went to go see a new hope in the theatres when she was 6 years old and she's gone on at length about how it was a life changing and eye opening experience for her and most of her female friends because the princess was a bigger badass than luke.
Your friends might have been a boys club but literally billions of people have seen these movies dude, you don't speak for them all.
Saul Goodman - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:16:24 EST oa2mmJAW No.406330 Reply
>A boot stamping on my face isn't bad unless I know it's on on a white foot
Kelly LeBrock - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:36:22 EST AW6SjAmx No.406331 Reply
>hates "sjw" shit
>demands the bad guys be exclusively white to emphasize their evil
You are so fucking weird, dude.
Bill Haverchuck - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 16:23:09 EST eC9hz/vo No.406332 Reply
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I don't really hate SJW shit. I would of had no problem with Rey being black and Finn being white. But Disney probably thinks that would not sell toys/movies as well. I'd still be protesting black storm troopers if I was black.

>Citation needed
Can't remember where I directly heard a Star Wars film maker say George intentionally casted specifically white people as Imperial Officers to make them look more racist/scary, probably a documentary or DVD commentary, but I do have this:

Here George specifically refers to the Imperials as Nazis. Thats the message he was trying to convey, wouldn't really support this stated vision with a black officer. Hell they're even named after Nazi storm troopers.

>Commander Hux gets introduced in a scene taken almost frame-by-frame from Leni Riefenstahl

I fucking hated that scene, Disney always does either WAY too little or WAY too much to sell "Imperials" in George's original vision as Nazis.

And the scene makes zero sense btw, if the good guys could see that visible death-beam of red light from the planet they were on "destroying the Republic(5 planets in a galaxy with 100+ billion stars wtf)", why did they stop on Maz's planet at all? That means it has to be in the same solar system. They could of just took the plans directly to the Republic planet without wasting an extra minute on space travel. Disney simply doesn't care about plot, their whole attitude is:


Another example of Disney not giving a shit about the plot making sense is Poe(not to mention Poe never even met fake Yoda in 7) using the comm device to contact Maz Kanata. They specifically said they had no way of communicating with their "allies" in the outer rim. So why not use that device?
Harmony Korine - Thu, 11 Apr 2019 20:24:34 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406334 Reply
Uh, the beam travels faster than light.

>but that doesn't make sense?

Star Wars stopped making sense when George Lucas decided to have laser swords and laser bullets.
Sybil Danning - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 11:01:10 EST eC9hz/vo No.406348 Reply
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The beam travels faster than light, the light emitted by the beam would not travel faster than the speed of light. It also seems implausible to calculate a direct strike on 5 planets simultaneously from 100K light years away. It was just added for unnecessary cool factor. And why was the entire Republic in one solar system, a galaxy with 100 billion stars.

Just like it was implausible for Han to hyperspace travel in-between a planet and its shields through hyperspace(why not do that for Endor), if he was off by a fraction of a nano second, he'd be dead, and maybe the planet would be destroyed going by TLJ physics invalidating every space battle we've seen so far. You can't suspend your disbelief like you could with the old Star Wars.

The light beam in the sky was gay as hell anyway, just like everything else in 7.
Harmony Korine - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 13:26:00 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406351 Reply
>You can't suspend your disbelief like you could with the old Star Wars.

Excuse me? Star Wars has always been fucking hard to suspend my disbelief on. WW2 air combat in space IS RETARDED. Either go for Star Trek's submarine combat with two or more warships duking it out (no fighters allowed), or go (relatively) hard on the scifi scale like B5 did with their deathcube fighters, just a cube with rocket boosters on every edge and weapon systems that can fire from every side.

The premise of Star Wars is already so nonsensical, that critiquing technology etc. is just meaningless because you'll just keep sinking further and further into a pit of nothingness. If you critique Star Wars, do it on characters and whatnot. Not on technology or plot devices, because STAR WARS NEVER MADE SENSE AND STAR WARS WILL NEVER MAKE SENSE.

I've seen enough SpaceBattles forums discussions, and only a literal retard would take Star Wars' technology serious.
Jason Penopolis - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:29:08 EST PPBdRS2a No.406358 Reply
>In a galaxy far, far away

Isn't it great that in this vast galaxy full of planets, races, people... That it's the same characters constantly being killed off and brought back?

They're really bringing back Emperor Palpatine for the finale of their shit trilogy, lmao. Heck, I'm sure that they'll bring back Anakin Skywalker too. Place your bets now on there being a Force Ghost battle... All the force ghosts of deceased characters swinging their noodle swords in an empty desert.

Disney is the most evil company in entertainment and they killed Star Wars. "Rise of Skywalker," what a joke, reeks of search engine optimization algorithms.
Joe D'Amato - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 16:00:31 EST 1LUlzS1I No.406361 Reply
making something vaguely original just made everyone mad, might as well go back to mindlessly nostalgia mining
Harmony Korine - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:03:29 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406365 Reply

I stand by the opinion that the DCCU sucks due to studio meddling. Besides, he also did the screenplay of Argo.
Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 18:34:27 EST poBJQDzI No.406368 Reply
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What's wrong with Argo? It seems like it's a highly rated movie.
Dario Argento - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:23:56 EST eC9hz/vo No.406374 Reply
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Why are they bringing back Palpatine? It makes Vader's sacrifice at the end of Return of The Jedi kind of pointless. Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith, but 30 years later Palpatine himself is resurrected. So what's the point?
Lord Voldemort - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:58:26 EST Kc8xS1Fx No.406375 Reply
Because of all the weird nerds who can't accept change and just want pop culture to deflect their childhoods back at them ad infinitum.

Major Alan Schaefer - Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:59:11 EST IE99TeCy No.406376 Reply
>Disney is the most evil company in entertainment
When I was a kid, my schizo aunt would always rant at me about how Walt Disney was either Satan or Satan's child. Are you telling me she was right all along?

but really, LOL at Palpatine being back, alho odds are JJ is trolling and it's just a weird cameo/flashback/force-ghost thing
Jake Morgendorffer - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 00:15:59 EST poBJQDzI No.406382 Reply
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Wait, where did you hear about Palpatine being brought back? And was there any mention of robotic spider legs?
Dario Argento - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:46:38 EST eC9hz/vo No.406391 Reply
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They already ruined Luke. Things don't look good for Palpy.


His cackle is in the trailer for episode 9 after it fades to black.


The real question is what would Walt Disney think of his company if he were alive to see it today. Didn't he hate Jews(New York Jews in particular but thats beside the point) and women showing their skin and stuff?
Dario Argento - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:57:21 EST eC9hz/vo No.406393 Reply
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I guess Disney realized how fucking stupid of an idea Snoke was and how popular prequel memes are.

Alex - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 12:55:15 EST p/EW64/D No.406397 Reply
That scene was when I turned off the movie. It was just too far out there into stupid territory and I knew it wasn't coming back.

1) I think Kathleen Kennedy gives directors too much latitude if that movie went that far off the rails
2) Disney should replace Kathleen Kennedy with someone competent that can make sure they don't end up with such a retarded movie. Or just hire JJ Abrams again and pretend everything is good in Disney's upper management.
Tara Strong - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 05:44:36 EST poBJQDzI No.406414 Reply
Are they going to ruin Rey with the next trilogy in 30 years when they have her go into exile as Luke and Yoda did only for her to toss a lightsaber over a cliff when presented with one by the next protagonist?
Tara Strong - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 05:45:16 EST poBJQDzI No.406415 Reply
Snoke is basically just Palpatine. Except likely to get owned by Palpatine.
Dr. Virjay - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:42:25 EST eC9hz/vo No.406427 Reply
These sequels already made everything in the OT seem pointless and futile. Having the Empire still exist, the Republic still small and weak, no Jedi Order, Han and Leia not married, etc. Bringing Palpatine back is just the final, creatively bankrupt "Fuck you" icing on the shit cake.
Tara Strong - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:54:20 EST poBJQDzI No.406429 Reply
> Having the Empire still exist
What is the Imperial Remnant?
> Bringing Palpatine back
What is Dark Empire comics?

Don't blame the movies for these ideas. Blame the (old) expanded universe and the unoriginality of the writers.
Dr. Virjay - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:38:11 EST eC9hz/vo No.406434 Reply
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They already said they made these films independently of each other. The fact that they made no mention of him in 7 or 8 proves they had no idea they were going to bring him back. Bringing him back his the ultimate last minute ass-pull to bank off of the last bit of Star Wars that hasn't been ruined yet.
Dejah Thoris - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 18:47:20 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406435 Reply
My love for KOTOR is probably why I enjoyed the new movies unexpectingly.

Kill off the Jedi. Let the past die. Fuck the Force.
Master Blaster - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:15:14 EST NkSuLJA+ No.406442 Reply
I'm just surprised that people are still invested in Star Wars after the shitshow that was TFA.
Crispin Glover - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:43:56 EST PPBdRS2a No.406449 Reply
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I mostly agree with you. I can't fully agree because: Rogue One. Rogue One was fucking fantastic, a great entry into the franchise that I'll watch for years to come as I would any of the previous films.
David Van Driessen - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:45:27 EST poBJQDzI No.406450 Reply
Disney is definitely preparing for that long hiatus in the films since Star Wars news has been piling up by the assload.

Episode IX teaser trailer
The Mandalorian (the most expensive TV series in history apparently)

But now there is another live-action TV series in works featuring Cassian Andor from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

Reuben Tishkoff - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 03:23:18 EST uKUnD1W0 No.406458 Reply
Did people really care enough about that character to warrant a TV series? He was one of the most dull parts of that movie IMO
Tim Minear - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:16:52 EST eC9hz/vo No.406469 Reply

As if I didn't hate Stephen Colbert enough already for leaving the Colbert Report.


Rogue One was so boring that most people can barely remember the name of a single character.
Ruby Rhod - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 15:26:52 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.406475 Reply
Weird, most of the hardcore 4-5-6 SW nerds I know loved Rogue One, because it was all just Star WARS with zero extra bullshit.
Punsy McHale - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 16:25:09 EST MyBydNCn No.406477 Reply
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>most of the hardcore 4-5-6 SW nerds I know loved Rogue One, because it was all just "THING I RECOGNIZE" with zero new ideas
more accurate, imo
Moya - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:50:46 EST p/EW64/D No.406482 Reply
I just thought it was really cool to see it from a foot soldier's perspective instead of it being a magical space opera that somehow isn't trying to be campy. If The Last Jedi didn't take itself so seriously, this would be a whole different story. And Luke getting blue milk poured on him doesn't make up for the movie taking itself super cereal the rest of the time.
Bryan Fuller - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:15:14 EST yaY1VRtw No.406488 Reply
The only thing I've heard the OT fans praise was that Darth Vader scene.
Danny Strong - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:32:24 EST zvxpqCD6 No.406494 Reply
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loved is a bit strong. It's just not as bad as the other three new abominations. It still ranks below the prequels save for jarjar, but Jamaican frog man is better than the rest of the disney movies.
Danny Strong - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 01:44:08 EST zvxpqCD6 No.406495 Reply
personally I don't really accept the repetitive emperor clones. Then again I don't care for much post endor story lines save jedi knight to academy. The clone wars era is the most fleshed out by a smaller group of writers with a TV show while the older EU relied on a bunch of nerds writing books. I'm not against reading but star wars is primarily a video media. agree or disagree?
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 11:15:07 EST gVFiet/2 No.406505 Reply
> Rogue One was so boring that most people can barely remember the name of a single character.

God, so boring. I bailed half way through the movie. There was no character development whatsoever and I couldn't have cared less about anything that was going on.
Seth Brundle - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 12:15:11 EST hxqO7lxU No.406508 Reply
>actually ranking the PREQUELS over the new trilogy

jolly african-american have you seen the prequels in the last 5-10 years?
at the very least the Disney movies are watchable.
I loved the prequels when I was about 10, but now? why. why would anyone watch those?
Moya - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:04:39 EST p/EW64/D No.406512 Reply
None of the prequels were anywhere near as bad as TLJ. At least the prequels were self aware and knew that they were campy at times.
Jon Stewart - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 21:50:47 EST poBJQDzI No.406522 Reply
Rogue One had more character development than the sequel trilogy. Sorry that you fall victim to the same thing modern day movie goers fall victim too. WIth this wave of short-attention spans, it is a marvel that anyone could follow what is going on in a Marvel film with all of the shit that goes down on screen. Plus the characters in Rogue One were more easily described by their actions in the film instead of their names.
Christian Troy - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 10:17:56 EST gVFiet/2 No.406536 Reply
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> Rogue One had more character development than the sequel trilogy.

Where? The second half of the film?

I can't speak for Last Jedi as I haven't seen it, but in Force Awakens we spend a fair amount of time with Rey before she even gets involved in the story. We got to learn her fears, motivations and hopes. Kind of like Luke in that Star Wars movie that they ripped off.

Not that the character development was stellar in Force Awakens, it wasn't Silence of the Lambs or anything. But for a swash-buckling space adventure it seemed to spend a decent amount of time on it.

I felt that Rogue One was like Prometheus in terms of character development, with a geologist who we know is a geologist because "HE LOVES ROCKS!" I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Can you give specific examples of character development in Rogue One?

> Sorry that you fall victim to the same thing modern day movie goers fall victim too.

Oh my.

> WIth this wave of short-attention spans, it is a marvel that anyone could follow what is going on in a Marvel film with all of the shit that goes down on screen.

I resent the implication that my attention span is anything short of except-SQUIRREL!

> Plus the characters in Rogue One were more easily described by their actions in the film instead of their names.

The shooty ones shoot and the punchy ones punch?
William Hartnell - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:10:38 EST k1YgYPTV No.406539 Reply
>Plus the characters in Rogue One were more easily described by their actions in the film instead of their names.
That's a cute way of saying that the characters are forgettable and one dimensional.
Christian Troy - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:06:49 EST gVFiet/2 No.406540 Reply
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That's not necessarily true, Fury Road did a good job of building characters through their actions.
Abel Ferrara - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:40:50 EST MyBydNCn No.406543 Reply
The difference being that people actually remember and like the characters in Fury Road.
Brian of Nazareth - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:05:37 EST hxqO7lxU No.406546 Reply
I don't regret watching Rogue One in the cinema, but I couldn't tell you a goddamn thing that happened in that movie, or any character's name or even what the team looked like (I think there was a black dude, an asian dude and the woman). It's literally the most forgetable movie I have ever seen.
Legolas - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:33:18 EST p/EW64/D No.406547 Reply
I won't disagree that it's pretty forgettable, but it's a well structured movie and it was cool to see a war from that perspective. It felt like a decent sci fi movie, unlike TLJ. It's my favorite of the new movies but I'll say it's probably not as good technically as TFA which was a decent movie and had better characters. Thankfully they're getting JJ back for the next one. I never thought I'd say something like that considering the way he treated Star Trek (though 2009 was actually a damn good movie, all things considered)
Summer Glau - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:49:41 EST 1LUlzS1I No.406548 Reply
Only real positive I can say about Rogue One is that it looked amazing, some of the most impressive design and cinematography in any of those movies. Other than that it was boring as shit
Lindsey Brigman - Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:51:14 EST kjrfCeyk No.406549 Reply
Hey me too. I watched the full thing but forget everything. Was Chewie in it? I forget what the main character even looked like.
Rob Reiner - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:50:31 EST gVFiet/2 No.406580 Reply
I remember that the blind fighter guy had weird eyes and the "my friend doesn't like you either" guy popped up suddenly and then was gone. I also remember the colour grey, that was a character, right?
Rob Reiner - Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:54:05 EST gVFiet/2 No.406581 Reply
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I wasn't defending the character development in Rogue One. I was just saying that it is possible to develop a character through the actions of the character.
Marceline Abadeer - Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:45:03 EST zvxpqCD6 No.406599 Reply
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eps 1-3 had a cohesive plot line between them all that weaves into 4 better than 4-6 were weaved together. It probably helped lucas to know where he was going to end up with it.

I'm going to ass blast this whole thread by ranking the star wars movies best to worst.

revenge is better than return and only loses to empire because of the DP in empire
Ruby - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 05:51:53 EST hxqO7lxU No.406714 Reply
I just had a mind boggling conversation with someone who told me STAR WARS was "realistic".
He also wasn't convinced the earth wasn't flat because "he hasn't seen it with his own eyes".
How the fuck can someone be a Star Wars fan and not be exposed to a most basic knowledge of physics and science?
It was like finding a train spotter that has never ridden nor even seen a train in real life before.
Christian Troy - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 18:00:10 EST zNWYaT9u No.406730 Reply

>how could someone be a shallow fan of pop culture trends without analyzing them more deeply?
John Carter - Thu, 25 Apr 2019 01:30:48 EST poBJQDzI No.406805 Reply
That's because Star Wars is fantasy. You should be more amazed if he would have said Star Trek. That franchise tries (used to) be more closer to the realms of physics and science. Plus almost all of Star Wars fans are retarded.
Dr. Strangelove - Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:55:57 EST 7LKkEQAJ No.406816 Reply
Looks cool. Haven't disliked a Star Wars movie yet, cept solo.
Tazmanian Devil - Sat, 04 May 2019 02:15:34 EST K6NtLVpy No.407179 Reply
SOLO was an example of how to pander to your hardcore audience and alienate everyone else.
Richard Dunn - Mon, 06 May 2019 02:21:56 EST kpL3kckf No.407235 Reply
I kinda wish that more movies would cater to hardcore audiences rather than shooting for mass appeal and just turning out super average.
Totoro - Mon, 06 May 2019 16:30:45 EST D3Uftgbh No.407253 Reply
Really? I thought the general consensus was that Solo was a pretty by-the-numbers outing that was still fun, if forgettable. Nothing in the movie required outside knowledge of SW to enjoy beyond the most basic understanding of the universe. Come to think of it, I don't think there's a single SW movie solely for the "hardcore" fans; they're tent pole projects that draw in relatively diverse audiences.

No one was really clamoring for Solo, but I found it enjoyable and inoffensive. I agree with >>407235 though that more movies based upon EU stuff would bring out the hardcore fans, but I don't know if that's sustainable in the long run. Also, people will find reasons to complain about anything SW-related these days. Imo its current trajectory isn't perfect but it's not like it was "ruined" or anything
Mathilda - Tue, 07 May 2019 00:06:22 EST wSr5W7WN No.407267 Reply
I want this movie to end with Commander Riker on the Holodeck.
Sergeant Benton - Sat, 25 May 2019 07:51:41 EST fBh7Tid8 No.407750 Reply

Wait, so, they brought Mark back after he talked a crazy amount of shit about the last movie?
Andy Serkis - Sat, 25 May 2019 22:44:39 EST YzmdH4xc No.407756 Reply

That would be the one thing Disney could do that I think would really truly kill Star Wars as a franchise.
Mike Nichols - Sun, 26 May 2019 07:05:45 EST oa2mmJAW No.407760 Reply
petition to recast Luke Skywalker with Adam Sandler
Rosalind Allen - Sun, 26 May 2019 18:01:03 EST WRFjtdv3 No.407769 Reply
If Sony had acquired Star Wars instead of Disney this would've been a remote possibility.
Rudy Wade - Mon, 27 May 2019 01:45:34 EST yQQqbouZ No.407775 Reply
If Sony acquired Star Wars instead of Disney it still wouldn’t help them.
Leela - Wed, 29 May 2019 02:00:47 EST 2Mm6mBWZ No.407824 Reply
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This isn't worth making a new thread over so I will just post it here....

A local art theater is showing all the star wars movies for May 4th.
I asked if they were the originals or the special editions.
I got an e-mail back saying...
>"They are the 1997 re-release versions. LucasFilm does not permit anyone to screen any other version, and in fact does not even acknowledge that other versions exist. "

I just wanted to say fuck LucasFilms and fuck anything after the originals.

Thank you.
Son Goku - Wed, 29 May 2019 02:22:38 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.407825 Reply
Lucas is fucking retarded. There was a fan project some years back of distributing the unaltered versions taken from the LaserDisk release. Not sure if that went anywhere but it wouldn't surprise me if he stopped it.
Sharko - Thu, 30 May 2019 09:23:33 EST d1RXpg3v No.407863 Reply

Money is what ruined star wars, nothing else. See my post in the game of thrones thread for my opinions on star wars. I love it and mainly love KOTOR 1 and 2. Now am reading the Darth Plagueis book which is awesome. Star wars now exists in star wars legends stuff. The Canon is just idiots trying to make money off a universe they do not respect or understand.
Joseph Dredd - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 02:43:52 EST poBJQDzI No.408430 Reply
I really hope that Daisy Ridley returns when she is older to reprise the role of Rey as a force master.

It would be more hilarious if her return is exactly like what they did with Luke Skywalker’s on-screen return.

Not sure how that would work since the Jedi were a thing of the past unless Rey has a hand in their reformation. She wouldn’t have anything to resent.

Luke never resented the force. He resented the Jedi. If anything Luke was answering to the force and how it didn’t belong to either the Jedi or the Sith.

If anything, Rey would probably end up just being a servant of the force.
Leeloo - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 06:36:31 EST sjCcFTJm No.408432 Reply
Competent writing would have Rey re-form the Jedi Order, but as Grey Jedi. Then she could do some psychotherapy shit with Kylo to convert him or steer him away from the Sith.

Ultimately accepting the Force as a whole, and dissolving the binary ideals of Jedi/Sith this way would fulfill Anakin's prophecy and bring balance to the Force. Anakin would have brought balance to the Force by killing off the old Jedi order, dying as the last true Sith, and setting up Luke to establish a non-dualistic order (through Rey) based on compassion, empathy, and forgiveness, instead of either straight up denial of emotions or straight up submission to them. It would also be a satisfying end to the 9-movie long Skywalker story/legacy, and allow for new stories to be told.

We're not going to get that, though. We're going to get the two stupid fucks who ruined GoT, and Disney raking in that mindless pop-culture fan money.
Son Goku - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 07:45:32 EST y/nAxKSI No.408434 Reply
Nah, have her run off with Kylo and get swayed by his sexy angst and go to the dark side, then we do the prequels where the dark side takes over everything with kylo and ren forming the new galactic empire, just do a couple movies of them conquering the shit out of the entire universe with clones and shit. Later on you introduce the good guys, two of whom would of course be Kylo and Rey's son/daughter twins and they bring back balance to the force by killing their parents. It's more progressive to also put women in the evil roles in the movies, not just the hero roles and it's also edgy so with the marketing algorithms that write the scripts these days, you never know.
Chevy Chase - Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:56:24 EST 8j0CrmPV No.408443 Reply
american consumer bonus points if you make old sith rey look like a mixture of Kai Winn and hilary clinton

americans love to hate on evil looking hilary clintons
Lauren Faust - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:34:58 EST nADrjgrz No.408444 Reply
even if it causes short- and long-term detriment to their nation
Ricky Ravine - Mon, 01 Jul 2019 22:32:08 EST poBJQDzI No.408455 Reply
So what would the purpose of re-forming the Jedi Order be? It wouldn't be the Jedi Order if it was entirely different.

Nice stallionspiracy theory. 👍
Vir Cotto - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 21:37:59 EST zNWYaT9u No.408483 Reply

bruh this has been my established headcannon since the early 2000's. also i thought in the literature once the jedi were re-established luke became corrupted by sith holocrons and brought true order and balance by rekindling the flames of both good and evil
Malory Archer - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 05:42:47 EST sjCcFTJm No.408489 Reply
Yes, in the books, Luke rebuilds the Jedi order based on his own concept of compassion and acceptance. He goes through the galaxy finding broken people and turning them in to good people. He locates holocrons to learn new techniques and get a deeper understanding of the force. Then a Sith force ghost corrupts his best student(this happens with like 4 other students, each one being more best than the last), so he spends a bunch of time hunting her down to see if he can chill her out. He can't, so he hunts more holocrons to figure out how to remove force ghosts from someone's body, only to get possessed by an even worse Sith ghost. Luke goes full Sith mode trying to stop his currently Sith pupil, only to remember that he's a good guy at the last second.

Then the Tyranid fleet from WH40k invades, and they're immune to the force. Everybody dies except for one of Han and Leia's kids, but the invasion is stopped.
Jay Sherman - Wed, 03 Jul 2019 09:11:49 EST u+SQmS1M No.408493 Reply
Wasn't there also some nonsense about the emperor being reborn in a clone or something and sith Luke becoming his apprentice.
Sofia Coppola - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 05:22:25 EST 8j0CrmPV No.408525 Reply
in one of the games there were a bunch of emp clones running around fucking shit up
Baby Cakes - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:21:00 EST q+6/wdHf No.408527 Reply
That was a comic but it was considered canon towards the novels. Pretty sure it also had the predictable twist of Luke not being Sith andn just faking it to get in the bad guys good graces to bring him down from the inside or some shit. My memory sucks so i could be wrong.
Mortimer Mango - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:30:31 EST sjCcFTJm No.408528 Reply
There was a lot of stuff in the books. Sideous learned the life-transfer technique from Plageus (as per the prequel movies) and then killed Plageus. He then set up cloning chambers in various places in the galaxy, but ensured his clones had blank minds. It was a gamble on his part because the transfer had only been done live-to-live. When Vader threw him down the exhaust shaft, he died and became a force ghost, but managed to summon enough energy to perform the soul transfer into a clone. The good guys found out, and there was a quest to find all the clone factories so that Sideous couldn't reincarnate continuously.

There was also a THIRD death star. Then the Empire figured out that bigger wasn't better, so they made the Sun Crusher; an X-Wing sized ship which can make stars go supernova and wipe out a whole solar system, instead of just one planet. Some emo kid steals it and starts wiping out imperial systems. Luke finds him, makes him not emo, and throws the ship into a black hole to be destroyed. The kid then goes emo again and goes full Sith; uses the force to pull the ship out of the black hole, and flies around the galaxy listening to Linkin Park while blowing up whatever he feels like.

The Dark Force Rising series by Timothy Zhan is considered as one of the best series; that's the one where Luke becomes a Sith. I believe it starts with Luke fighting some lava worm in a volcano, but it has diamond skin or something, so every time he slashes at it, the lightsaber beam breaks and ricochets around the volcano.

The Bounty Hunter series is really good. It follows Dengar and Boba Fett. Mostly it's just Boba getting revenge or getting paid; Bossk is his mortal enemy, and there's a whole reptilian genocide thing. Boba gets caught in the middle of some Hutt mafia turf war shit. It gets wild. There's an alien that is like a giant brain/mantis; as it eats and lives, it grows, but it can't keep thoughts together well, so it splits off brains and gives them personalities and skills, except they are tethered still by an umbilical cord/nerve cord that shares thoughts and feelings between the brains. A few chapters are about one of the child-brains; it gains full sentience and has ambition, and wants to eat the other brains so it can grow to be the boss brain.
Billie Piper - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:41 EST oa2mmJAW No.408529 Reply
That sounds wild but reading them would be a let down after your summary.
Tommy Gavin - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 11:49:41 EST bJDqR/V8 No.408531 Reply
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I’m still confused why they haven’t just done Thrawn already. I know they made EU books non-canon at some point, but it seems like a trilogy based around him would translate really well to movies, unlike a bunch of the weirder EU shit, and you’d be salvaging basically the only interesting thing in all of Star Wars that isn’t just more Skywalker lineage or basic hero’s journey rehashes.
Lois Lane - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:36:51 EST py8GA3J0 No.408533 Reply
Those are most of the highlights but the books are still worth a read if you're interested in an original yet faithful continuation of the story after ep 6.
Billie Piper - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 13:44:29 EST oa2mmJAW No.408535 Reply
I'm not particularly but thanks anyway.

How is it that the CGI in BSG is already looking dated but Starship Troopers still looks real? Some voodoo fuckery going on there.
Billie Piper - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 18:51:19 EST oa2mmJAW No.408540 Reply
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Here's a nice touch in BSG - the one time you do get to see a toaster it really does look like a Cylon.

Also, anyone else notice that the ship named the Olympic Carrier is used as a Trojan horse? Olympic Carrier, Trojan horse? Get it? Because Greeks? Bit tenuous but it works.
Christopher Eccleston - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 01:51:23 EST AhZ4rMYN No.408570 Reply
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No plan survives contact with the enemy
David Fury - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 06:20:42 EST poBJQDzI No.408577 Reply
Did Starship Troopers actually use models instead of computer graphics?
Billy Boyd - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 14:54:14 EST oa2mmJAW No.408582 Reply
The ships look fine but the robot cylons look like garbage, the shadows and stuff is never right so they look like they've been overlaid onto the footage.

Yes, that's probably the main difference.
The Master Control Program - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 05:41:39 EST aJ6uuRdt No.408587 Reply
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okay, yeah you're right about alot of the cylon cgi
but the ship battles were pretty damn good
Trinity - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 14:41:17 EST x8vwhzmw No.408637 Reply
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The thing about those reflective/diffuse details is that they don't even have to match the scene to be fairly convincing.

Meanwhile if you don't put them in AT ALL.....

But these days you can actually just get some footage from a 360 camera from the set, including lighting changes if you want, and apply it to the rendering environment as a 360 HDR lightmap.

But since sets are usually half open you'd probably want to throw in a rough 3D scene to provide some detail in the half that's just the black soundstage. For extra credit you could rough in some of the actors as long as there's nothing too mirror-finishy.

But as I said it really doesn't need to be very accurate to be very convincing. Rough reflections are EXTREMELY low detail IRL
Dawn Summers - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 16:28:24 EST zNWYaT9u No.408639 Reply
i have said it before and i will say it again. i was so excited to see donnie yen in rogue one bust out some martial arts. he is today's bruce lee. instead he hit a stormtrooper with a stick. infuriating. thats like getting the best singer in the world in your movie and he just hums a few notes
Al Pacino - Wed, 10 Jul 2019 05:57:34 EST Op3nZujx No.408653 Reply
sums up current star wars pretty well i think. a lot of wasted potential and missteps
Nada - Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:49:01 EST rlNQ1eiS No.408697 Reply
Whoa a RED stormtrooper?! Man Disney is really cranking up its imagination with all these new and innovative enemies and characters, truly the creative geniuses of our time. Wonder what they will come up with next? BLUE MILK? A PURPLE LIGHTSABER?! THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS
Rosalind Allen - Sat, 13 Jul 2019 00:02:16 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.408698 Reply
First Order civil war confirmed? Hux vs. Ren!

Daisuke Jigen - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:27:49 EST 1xXAX7+I No.408793 Reply

If they could do that again they could make star wars great again.

I do not think Disney could make a movie as bad (but great) as the holiday special, there's would just be bad.
Handbanana - Mon, 29 Jul 2019 05:41:51 EST udRvu5PF No.409091 Reply
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Superior Ray/Rei coming thru...
Inara Serra - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 05:01:09 EST ODU5a/Ia No.409205 Reply
It would've been cool if it was that. But we Jynn Erso and the whole plot with the Death Star. I kinda wish they would focus on one battle from the grunts not this Death Star stuff.

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