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One Subscription Service for Many

- Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:07:26 EST poBJQDzI No.408305
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With so many streaming services nowadays it makes me wonder how come there aren't any services where you pay one monthly bill that covers all of the services that you choose to pay for. Kind of like an old cable subscription except for media streaming since you'll likely end up paying the same price you would normally for cable after trying to get every single streaming service on the internet. How come this isn't a thing yet?
Fisto - Sun, 23 Jun 2019 19:46:47 EST DO4Z3epi No.408310 Reply
With usenet, nzbs & you can have a "subscription" you pay for and have pretty much all the common media available to you.
That's considered pirating of course. Depending on the tools you use this can be pretty convenient too, but of course it's all on the PC.

Besides that, you can get a vpn and get more out of a netflix subscription.

>How come this isn't a thing yet?
cooperate greed
Brian of Nazareth - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:20:50 EST +YpNeDSV No.408316 Reply
because who the fuck needs to consume that much media?
the difference between cable television and a streaming service is that with cable you don't decide when you can watch the content. with streaming services, you're not bound to the network's schedule which means you don't have to have overlapping subscriptions. the content won't disappear for at least a few months.
Monica Geller - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:21:56 EST oa2mmJAW No.408317 Reply
there is, it's called a vpn
Korben Dallas - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:59:13 EST poBJQDzI No.408318 Reply
Nobody mentioned a timed schedule for content.

Isn't that only good if you have one or two subscriptions? You would still have to pay for the rest yourself.
Bernie Mac - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 05:15:12 EST u+SQmS1M No.408319 Reply
>How come this isn't a thing yet?

For the same reason most companies won't work together to sell a superior product. They aren't happy just making money, they want to make ALL the money.

I'm sure apps will arise where you can bundle your subscriptions for ease of access, but you'll still be paying for them individually.
Philip J. Fry - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:21:49 EST WLlbbEvP No.408321 Reply
Paying a middle man to subscribe to services for you is a waste of money. Its not that hard to give a streaming service your credit card number, and its not like one person needs more than a few.
Humbert Humbert - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 09:52:03 EST poBJQDzI No.408346 Reply
But access to everything will get fucking cumbersome. Just let the middle man do it.
Susan Foreman - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:43:58 EST DO4Z3epi No.408350 Reply
In some countries while torrenting is technical illegal consumer protection laws still prevent these insufferable law firms to extort money in bulk from bit-torrent users.
This means nobody gets fined either because they would have to go after each person individually which isn't economically feasible.
Humbert Humbert - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 18:39:26 EST poBJQDzI No.408355 Reply
Don’t they just target the person who uploads the content and those who seed?
Skylar White - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:14:04 EST DO4Z3epi No.408356 Reply
Only the person who publishes the torrent. But those are loosely affiliated with warez release groups and behind 7 proxies.
Skylar White - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:37:10 EST DO4Z3epi No.408357 Reply
To be clear, in some countries, those where the industry successfully bribed lawmakers to pervert copyright law they do go after everybody.
The crux is they threaten to sue you for not only the media you consume but also for the media everybody consumes who you transmit bittorrent chunks to.

In other countries they could only sue you for the media actively put on the platform or technically the media you download without owning the rights.
And that only for an amount that is akin to a fair market value, like a streaming fee.
So if you had 100 movies from torrent they could sue you for 1000 bucks. Big whoopdie doo...

In the countries which have perverted copyright laws the can potentially sue you for lets say 100^2 * 10, so 100000 bucks. Of course this actually never happens because sane courts throw out the case. But what they are doing instead is sending letters in bulk. They threaten to sue for like 100000 and ask for a "settlement" of lets say 2342.
Alex Cox - Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:50:12 EST qVNnUEZ9 No.408359 Reply
No. They will send out mass notices to any IP in the peer pool. It depends on which shitty troll agency is sending them, but sometimes they will threaten legal action if you don't send them X amount of money. I got one for a Willie Nelson torrent that I only got the cover scan from.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 26 Jun 2019 22:56:36 EST RBdu29nx No.408379 Reply
>With so many streaming services nowadays it makes me wonder how come there aren't any services where you pay one monthly bill that covers all of the services that you choose to pay for.

I know a friend that Spotify college student account and she also gets Hulu and Showtime included for just $5 but that's all I know. Problem is that I can't see services like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Prime Video reducing their prices to include their video services with other ones for one subscription price on a whole other platform. Closest thing we really have is with Apple where you can use your Apple ID to connect all your subscribed streaming services through the TV app. I also use Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and HBO but I'm maxed on streaming services I'm willing to subscribe to. Everything else that's on DC Universe, Cinemax, Starz, Epix and all those other premium cable and streaming services that you have to subscribe to I'm better off just watching on a free television show streaming site.

I also do find it funny people are getting all up in arms about NBC taking back The Office from Netflix. I mean that shit was bound to happen eventually.

This post was edited by C_Higgy on 26-06-2019 22:59:11
Gaear Grimsrud - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 04:03:58 EST PPBdRS2a No.408460 Reply
The state of television for decades:

>You wanna watch TV? Okay, that'll be $100 a month. Included in that price is 500 channels you don't give a fuck about, including free OTA channels. For an extra $20, we'll give you what you really want: HBO, Showtime, MTV, Disney Channel, etc. You just want HBO? Too bad, you gotta buy our basic tier first, $100.

Late 2000s:

>Hi, we're Netflix. For $10 a month, you get access to our catalogue of movies and tv shows.

>Hi, we're Hulu. For $10 a month, you get access to our catalogue of movies and shows.

>Hi, we're HBO. For $10 a month, you get access to our catalogue of movies and shows.

Retards in 2019:

>I'm tired of juggling all these subscription services. Can somebody just charge me $120 and give me everything?

People begged for à la carte tv services for years. We finally got it... Now people wanna jump back in bed with the scam artists, lmao.

If you're paying more than $20 a month for tv, you're a damn fool with your finances, period. There's no reason to have a bunch of streaming services. You get one, maybe two, pay for $10 fee for that month, catch up on all their shows/movies and let it expire after the month. Then you go to another streaming service, do the same thing.

You aren't missing out on anything by only having HBO 4 months out of the year. Their series are available year round and they don't cycle their movies that quickly either. The same can be said for practically every other service.
Ricky Ravine - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 04:37:26 EST poBJQDzI No.408461 Reply
Aren’t you the cool kid in student, but what if I want access to a variety of content for different days to watch or rewatch or try something new?
Ash Ketchum - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:53:07 EST GGh9Ar/O No.408481 Reply
Torrents and a big hard drive has been my answer to that for years now.
Dipper Pines - Tue, 02 Jul 2019 20:46:58 EST DeHiQXht No.408482 Reply

Its predicted that there is an impending fracture of streaming services similar to what is happening in Australia. In Australia there is a streaming service for sports and another reality television, you cant view any of the content on these two services on other platforms, both cost $10-$15P/M. its expected that this is going to be the dominant model and that netflix will begin to look more like a traditional cable service where you buy a netflix subscription and then purchase individual packages for the kind of content you want.

That being said, thats what disney is already gearing up for. There is going to be a steady increase in cost for particular content as more and more people shift away from traditional television sources.
The Master - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:08:53 EST GDmFIB+W No.408674 Reply
This makes me mad.

Does anybody know if it's possible to release an open source application anonymously and un-traceable in a way that joe public can find it?
I'm thinking about something like Progressive Web App that runs on an Android Smart TV that takes a Usenet subscription and NZB aggregator account (which could be bought through the app). The work to stream from rar files using nothing but java-script has already been done. The rest could probably be done in a man-month of coding.
The Master - Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:12:11 EST GDmFIB+W No.408675 Reply
I mean something like popcorn time, but for usenet.
The original popcorn time authors fucked by cooperate lawyers afik which means everybody is too chicken to do it.
Meeklo Braca - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:02:07 EST pu3U9BlY No.409179 Reply
There are lots of options for this: sonarr, radarr, sickrage, sickbeard, etc. Works with trackers and usenet.
Randall Skeffington - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 08:59:45 EST GDmFIB+W No.409187 Reply
Thanks alot my dude, sickrage looks awesome.
I will check that out.

I even have a small synology somewhere that needs a new fan.
Time for bargain hunting for 4x 2.5" hdds I guess.
Randy Marsh - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 23:20:38 EST pu3U9BlY No.409193 Reply
You wont find any bargains on 2.5s. If you can fit 3.5" HDDs then your best bet is to wait for WD 8TB EasyStores to go on sale again(they go on sale all the time) at best buy and then shuck them. It is by far the cheapest per tb you can get.
James Cameron - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:36:33 EST bsc+mcuY No.409200 Reply
They're always low RPM slow as dogshit drives in those cheap externals though.

Unless you want to array half a dozen of them, where you'll get good speed anyway I dunno how worth it that is.
Jake Morgendorffer - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 21:52:30 EST nIK6t2eX No.409201 Reply

They are essentially the same as WD Red drives which are perfect for media storage.
Master Chief - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 22:21:24 EST pu3U9BlY No.409202 Reply
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Not in the 8TB EasyStores I pulled a ton of reds out of them before I upgraded my media servers and went with 12tb drives. Now there are some that have a 3.3v pin issue, the WMAZ from Thailand I believe, but that is simply fixed with some kapton tape.

They are not WD blacks, golds, or purples but they are better than greens(which are no longer made) or blues and are pretty much equal to reds if you don't get a "true" red (not red pro) They are also usually only $140 for 8tb vs well over $200 for a standalone WD 8tb Red drive.

So, yeah, its worth it even for 1 drive and especially for a pool. Oh and don't forget the extra parity drives and at least 1 offsite backup.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:31:22 EST RBdu29nx No.409266 Reply
So who's gonna get that Disney+/Hulu/ESPN+ bundle for the same price as Netflix? No wonder Netflix's stock went down.
Master Splinter - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 13:08:53 EST AT1HshWM No.409309 Reply
> implying the corporate elite would ever work together and willingly stop competing for their chance at monopolizing our lives
Silent Bob - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:56:16 EST +Lb33GKN No.409310 Reply
>implying the reptilian overlords dont own every single corporation already and aren't working to homogenize the earth to aquire our pineal glands
Will Dick - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:51:32 EST obN0vLLT No.409418 Reply
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>Wanting the mouse to be the major sauce of your media entertainment.
No thank you

Should I boycott the new MULAN from Disney?
Jake the Dog - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 01:56:25 EST 4LJsvqca No.409420 Reply
Why are you still watching Disney movies in the first place?
Reef Blastbody - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 19:41:33 EST 2CtnGO7m No.409437 Reply
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Problem is(as I recently read)) they're splitting up even more.

Instead of licensing everything to Netflix expect the following to be in their own...

NBC WANTS THE OFFICE BAVK, SOON. IT REGULARLY IS TRENDING ON NETFLIX. new content losing to a show from 9 years ago.

HBO will continue to go it alone.

DISNEY will have a service.

I believe AMC is doing the same.
CBS all access for STAR trek and ABC for HOW TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER.

There's a few others I forget, but I remembered thinking oh good the age of streaming is now going to be the age of a million costly services.

Push me away!
I will keep netflix and be loyal. Other than that I will torrent everything I want.

Nothing makes sense.
SyFy canceled the best new space show by far. Thankfully it was saved by AMAZON? OR HULU?

I forget.
I'll be tormenting it anyway.
If I had the ability to help pay for individual shows I'd do that. Tho dont know how it would work. I hate that a show can't seem to be on multiple networks unless it's really old.
Angelica Pickles - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:00:18 EST mWoywQXr No.409440 Reply
As someone who saw this coming like a decade ago, I hope this ushers in a second great age of piracy.
Blade - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:45:28 EST 2CtnGO7m No.409442 Reply
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I'll be front and center.
I have tons of audio books and epubs. I pay for Netflix cause it's a good service at a great price. They want to get greedy and atomize everything they'll get what's coming to them.

I can't just read and learn all I can afford, the genie is out of bottle and it's my moral imperative to download the best of culture. Why should I be left behind cause I can't afford all I want to know?
Talyn - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 21:07:59 EST +OFZtSYI No.409445 Reply
This has been happening for a while now. What media companies fail to realize is that it isn't about how much something costs, it's the ease of access that's the real determination.

Tons of people enjoy the weekly episode release model because it encourages and supports discussion. But when you charge for it, you just push the pirates to attain episodes with the least effort required.

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