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- Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:16:49 EST B7DiVK5I No.409065
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>THE BOYS is an irreverent take on what happens when superheroes, who are as popular as celebrities, as influential as politicians and as revered as Gods, abuse their superpowers rather than use them for good. It's the powerless against the super powerful as The Boys embark on a heroic quest to expose the truth about “The Seven,” and their formiddable Vought backing.

I typically hate cap shut, but this is really good. Check it if get the chance.
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Judi Dench - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:19:02 EST lKbNrfy5 No.409072 Reply
Yeah, this shit was great. Already green lit for season 2.
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Stephen Colbert - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 18:20:34 EST rlNQ1eiS No.409075 Reply
>>409065
Binged the whole thing this weekend it was pretty fucking great
I really love Homelander, just loves being evil and is crazy and manipulative. Really want some more backstory and shit about early tests or something in season 2. When he killed Stillwell that was some ice cold shit, also that ending, man Homelander really knows how to land those emotional punches
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Donald Draper - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:01:55 EST SkvT2fIW No.409112 Reply
>>409065
>THE BOYS is an irreverent take on what happens when superheroes, who are as popular as celebrities, as influential as politicians and as revered as Gods, abuse their superpowers rather than use them for good
So it's about super villains?
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:39:39 EST RBdu29nx No.409116 Reply
I've already watched the first five episodes and I've been really enjoying it tremendously. What I appreciate about the show is its deconstruction of the superhero mythos and I think that it's especially relevant now because of how popular superhero films have become and have become a cog in the corporate machine like Disney's for making money and shaping public perception about them. A good example I thought was Homelander deciding not to save the passengers on the plane, which ended up making for a better story in order to gain support for the bill to integrate supes into the national defense. Plus I think the show has the most hypothetical yet realistic take on what living in a world of superheroes could potentially have like how

The violence is gory but it's fun in a crazy what the fuck kind of way like when Pop Claw had Alex eat her out on for her to crush his skull with her vagina or Billy Butcher using the baby's laser eyes to take out those armed guards. Looking forward to seeing how the last three episodes play out.

>>409112
That's kind of a blank statement but it's more so about the corruption that those superheroes, who are basically mercenaries contracted to a PMC in Vought, and how The Boys and trying to expose them for who they really are through sabotage and violence.
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Tricia Helfer - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:10:44 EST XgsH7nii No.409118 Reply
>[....] take on what happens when [...] celebrities, as influential as politicians and as revered as Gods, abuse their superpowers rather than use them for good. It's the powerless against the super powerful as The Boys embark on a heroic quest to expose the truth about “The Seven,” and their formiddable Vought backing.

I'm tired of glorifying celebrities. Trash celebrities, they're worse than actors. Unleash a pack of them on one of the floating plastic isles and see how long until they eat the camera crew.
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Mortimer Mango - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:19:25 EST pDUrTkgN No.409121 Reply
I've been skimming past this thread for days because the OP pic made it look like a Capeshit general but holy fucking fuck, The Boys is finally out?!?! Aw yea, here's hoping it's as good as Ash Vs Evil Dead and Preacher for fucked up, violent comedy TV.
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Malory Archer - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:06:42 EST poBJQDzI No.409127 Reply
>>409065
> superheroes
> abuse their superpowers
So they're super villians?
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Joffrey Baratheon - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:13:54 EST IBJAbzvX No.409129 Reply
>>409127
They use their powers for good 95% of the time, but the 5% is what's called into question. Imagine of Superman was accused of a #metoo moment? Would his years of service exclude him from being punished for forcing an intern to blow him?
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Joffrey Baratheon - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 20:54:20 EST IBJAbzvX No.409130 Reply
I was just flipping through the showrunner's AMA and this made me LOL so fuckin hard
>There was ONE SCENE that Amazon said FUCK NO, you have to cut. I couldn't quite understand why considering everything else we have in the show, but: Homelander, after being dressed down by Stilwell in episode 2, was standing on one of the Chrysler building Eagles. He pulled his pants down and started jerking off, mumbling "I can do whatever I want" over and over again until he climaxed all over New York City. We shot it! Oh my God, Anthony was the BEST in that scene. Amazon seemed to think it wasn't necessary. I thought it told me something about his psyche.
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Danny Trejo - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 12:02:33 EST +ujpbt55 No.409142 Reply
Good show. Didn't love the ending but hopefully it gets a season 2.
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Xev Bellringer - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 19:12:57 EST +OFZtSYI No.409150 Reply
>>409142
It was renewed for a second season before the first even premiered.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:53:10 EST RBdu29nx No.409157 Reply
Finished the season and I throughly enjoyed it. I was really surprised by the twist at the end with Becca being alive with Homelander's son so what I'm wondering is if Homelander didn't really know the truth of what happened to Becca until her forced it out of Jonah, it tells me that Vought had covered it up by faking her disappearance to live in seclusion. I like Karl Urban and Antony Starr in their roles and like in Banshee, Starr does a good job of being able to play an anti-hero role although I think Homelander's intentions are more devious than Hood's were.

I do also think this show does a good job of addressing the role that superheroes play within the military-industrial complex since the MCU really hasn't been as in-depth with it other than with Civil War. It is also funny that the show got Simon Pegg to play Hughie's dad when Hughie in the comics was based off Simon.
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Ned Flanders - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 08:04:08 EST B7DiVK5I No.409161 Reply
>>409157
>Simon Pegg to play Hughie's dad when Hughie in the comics was based off Simon.

That was a pretty cool easter egg, coonsidering pegg is to old to play hughie.
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Linda Harrison - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 09:48:24 EST oa2mmJAW No.409162 Reply
>>409157
>so what I'm wondering is if
yes mate that's pretty explicitly the case, that's what he tortured out of the fried chicken man
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Varys - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 07:13:00 EST fBh7Tid8 No.409171 Reply
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I'm still trippin over the last episode. My man Billy got cucked into high heaven, man. As far as Homelander goes, it's been a while since I've seen a villain who legitimately gets off on being evil.
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Zhora - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 17:02:13 EST H9KOa0f/ No.409173 Reply
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>>409171
I can't believe how much Homelander looks like Vic Mignogna
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Humbert Humbert - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 01:40:17 EST jXgeLeE0 No.409184 Reply
I thought I recognised Homelander, he's played by the kiwi guy who was in an old show a friend of mine got me into a while back called Outrageous Fortune, I don't remember much but I do remember him playing some kind of fuck-up character and being really really good in it, check it out. Crazy to see him go from a rinky little Kiwi soap playing a perpetual fuck-up to a big budget Super Hero critique playing a Superman analogue

>>409173
is that the asian guy from mythbusters in the background?
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Humbert Humbert - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 01:43:27 EST jXgeLeE0 No.409185 Reply
>>409157
OH SHIT HE'S THE FUCKING BANSHEE GUY
All I could think of when I saw Homelander was Outrageous Fortune, holy shit. He's got some fuckin chops
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James Cameron - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 16:13:32 EST bsc+mcuY No.409197 Reply
>>409178
There's like 12 episodes of Star Trek continues on Youtube.

The initial ones are kinda bad and the later ones are very rushed to get them out before CBS dropped the hammer on fan shows.

But the middle ones are really good.
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Lucy Brown - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:50:55 EST gVFiet/2 No.409218 Reply
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>>409216
> Leonard Nimoy is dead? FFFfffffffffffffffffffff

How did you manage to miss that? It was huge news at the time.
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Eric Wareheim - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 22:45:40 EST lKbNrfy5 No.409237 Reply
>>409225
Probably not as new as the cunt that rolls out the yellow text current year meme.
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Drake Mallard - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 03:39:06 EST Te2kNZUW No.409307 Reply
I want Queen Maeve x Starlight lezzing-out.
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Thick McRunfast - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:18:08 EST CWhAiHO8 No.409312 Reply
I thought it was a great change by not having flashbacks, other than Butchers Origin we find out about things as they're happening. Im curious to see what they do with Black Noir. He reminded me of the recent seasons of Preacher, things that didn't happen in the comic that youd think would have. Him sipping tea and playing piano was perfect.
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Trent Lane - Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:08:07 EST Te2kNZUW No.409316 Reply
>>409312
Black Noir was revealed in the comics but this version changed it up enough that he might not have the same origin. Still kept the character as a mysterious behind-the-scenes guy though.
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Ellen Barkin - Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:16:51 EST gVFiet/2 No.409337 Reply
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I was hoping that Homelander would go completely off the reservation at some point. I guess I'll have to wait for next season.

>>409130

That sounds amazing.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 03 Sep 2020 10:38:44 EST NJdldPOO No.416421 Reply
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First three episodes of season 2 premier tomorrow with subsequent episodes being released weekly till October 9.

>The new season finds The Boys on the run from the law, hunted by the Supes, and desperately trying to regroup and fight back against Vought Corporation. In hiding, Hughie (Jack Quaid), Mother’s Milk (Laz Alonso), Frenchie (Tomer Capon) and Kimiko (Karen Fukuhara) try to adjust to a new normal, with Butcher (Karl Urban) nowhere to be found.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Thu, 03 Sep 2020 21:20:55 EST +b+TVVsO No.416432 Reply
>>416421
Damn, I thought it was going to be a full season release but they're doing the Doom Patrol thing. Do you know the exact time it's out? Like it's 4th of September here in Australia, so would it be out now or is it like midnight EST in America?
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Stump Beefknob - Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:09:49 EST 7LKkEQAJ No.416433 Reply
One of the Laziest way to write super heroes is the whole "what if superman was like a jerk" thing. But the fact that this show is about the military industrial complex and why it's bad, it can actually overcome it's premise and be good. Can't wait for more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKzwbsI7ISQ
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 04 Sep 2020 12:54:24 EST /Tr1eEJh No.416439 Reply
>>416432
Yeah I was surprised it wasn't a full season release like last season but I suppose Amazon wants to sustain the hype and discussion for the show over the course of a month rather than one weekend. Plus it's a way for streaming services keep subscribers for a longer period of time rather than people subscribing, binging the show, and then unsubscribing. Releasing the first three episodes followed by weekly episodes is a new trend that Hulu and Apple TV+ have used for their shows.

>>416433
Agreed. The Boys' commentary of superheroes within the military-industrial complex is an interesting subversion of the usual evil superhero tropes that we normally see elsewhere.
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Brian DePalma - Fri, 04 Sep 2020 18:29:22 EST cXwcZfWq No.416441 Reply
If u think the series is good, you'll absolutely love the comics - difference is tremendous, in a good way.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Fri, 04 Sep 2020 23:58:53 EST +b+TVVsO No.416446 Reply
>>416443
Yeah I was a bit cautious about the changes, but they seem okay so far so I'll give them a chance. I wonder if they'll show Lamplighter this season, or if he exists in the storyline of the show.
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Puar - Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:44:22 EST PIa4JctS No.416451 Reply
So I read the comic "The Boys" and found it enjoyable enough, but it had that Garth Ennis humor problem. You know, like ArseFace or anyone retarded who appears in one of his comics where you can tell Ennis was trying to be funny by having the fat retarded guy realize that he really had to pee so he screamed for help because he couldn't reach his penis so all his friends and handlers crowd around and he ends up just pissing all over everyone! Did they sort of smooth that shit out? Sort of apprehensive about starting it, but I keep hearing it's really good, then I think about the superhero Huey punched in the comic and accidentally killed and oh boy did the gerbil in that guy's ass get agitated and I decide I should find out more before moving to a live action medium.
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Lando Calrissian - Sat, 05 Sep 2020 16:45:35 EST +Lb33GKN No.416452 Reply
>>416451
While the show still has some humor, its usually not as juvenile as Ennis can be
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 05 Sep 2020 19:42:36 EST +b+TVVsO No.416455 Reply
>>416451
Yeah it's definitely a lot more neutered than the comics to appeal to a wider audience, but with Ennis, that's not necessarily a bad thing. The sexual stuff is really toned down by a lot, and the violence by a bit too, but they've changed quite a bit of the plot as well, so I don't even know if they're going to do stuff like Love Sausage or Herogasm.

One thing I do find weird though, is that they're naming episodes after issues of the comic, but neither have anything to do with each other. Like one of the released season 2 episodes is the Over The Hill storyline where Hughie kills A-Train, Homelander kills Mauve and Butcher goes to Washington and the story is nowhere near that point in the show.
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Krang - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 06:41:15 EST T4dWTtnP No.416461 Reply
>>416441
The cool thing is the end of season 1. There are other huge changes in the show but the big reveal will likely switch things up to make it significantly different from the comic. I'd reccomend the comic at this point for just an alternative universe of the TV show. I'm also hope black noirs reveal is different, there's little foreshadowing to his identity and he's developing a personality of his own that shows a softer side. loving him and The Deep in the show.

I didn't expect Stormfront to be as similar to her comic version with all her preaching of girl power. It was a nice surprise for comic readers but I don't think there way anything going on that she's... it's been a while I forget how to use spoiler tags.
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Lady Rainicorn - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 11:36:38 EST GgHWFtHt No.416467 Reply
S2 is good so far, gay they only added the first 3 episode, but I get why. Kind hoped they added Tek Knight, cause hes funny as shit in the comic but it might too much for TV, quote un quote. Adding Stormfront as female nazi was bit of twist, but a cool addition. Bretty good so far.
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Carrie Fisher - Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:31:36 EST 5PcCbsUB No.416473 Reply
Holy fuck, when will Seth Rogan stop trying to do Romance? Maybe it's some kind of marketing metric that even this crap he produces is a net positive for $$, or maybe he actually thinks it's good what he's producing, but it's just so bad. He should stick to comedy, like almost every The Deep scene.

Do a lot of Americans still have this thing that a rough Australian spamming 'cunt' is the manliest badass thing alive? I think from Butcher's Morpheus-like appearance at the beginning of Season 1 he's turning a bit into a clown in Season 2.

The show is definitely enjoyable, but here are a lot of cracks. And pretty much every character is growing unlikable. In that sense it's really not that different from non-ironic supertrash.
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Tommen Baratheon - Tue, 08 Sep 2020 01:15:56 EST XP0BA3j4 No.416475 Reply
>>416473
well in the comic basically everybody is unlikable as well
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Kate Mulgrew - Tue, 08 Sep 2020 07:28:02 EST oa2mmJAW No.416480 Reply
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>>416473
>Do a lot of Americans still have this thing that a rough Australian spamming 'cunt' is the manliest badass thing alive?
They haven't got a clue what an East End accent actually sounds like. I don't know why they just didn't change the character's origins to somewhere Karl Urban could actually do the accent of. Sounds like he studied Charlie Hunnan's vocal performance in Green Street Hooligans.
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Russel Crowe - Wed, 09 Sep 2020 11:10:08 EST m1GuiTY4 No.416500 Reply
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>>409065

Can we take a second to appreciate how The Venture Bros has been crushing this premise with it's hilariously incompetent super-characters for years?
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Dolphin Boy - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:03:40 EST oa2mmJAW No.416562 Reply
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I can't take S2 at all seriously, they keep talking about soup terrorists and it's fucking ridiculous.>>409065
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Spike - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:49:41 EST 5rJnAy5W No.416563 Reply
>>416562
"Soup"was used plenty in the first season. You guys have some strange nitpicks.
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Bubbles - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 04:40:35 EST oa2mmJAW No.416569 Reply
>>416563
It's fine on its own but when they start appending it to "terrorist" it gets weird.
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Dr. Steve Brule - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:40:49 EST 4ImnZ4pe No.416570 Reply
My boy Dean from Supernatural got himself a role for this show in Season 3 now that Supernatural is officially airing its final series finale episodes next month. The Ride never ends
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Jon Stewart - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:52:52 EST 0e6qypaO No.416572 Reply
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>>416569
That will not bother you for much longer.
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Gillian Anderson - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:10:30 EST oa2mmJAW No.416590 Reply
>>416572
I feel like it's just a matter of time before someone uses that phrase. Stormfront seems to be working her way up to being described as one.
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Pierce Hawthorne - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 02:06:48 EST 0e6qypaO No.416749 Reply
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>>416590
I'm getting the sense that the entire show is just a lead up to Huey learning about Stormfront's past, going "She's some kind of soup... Nazi", and then fade to black, roll credits, in memory of, name of every single fish and marine mammal who died in the show.
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Michael Palin - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:27:57 EST GgHWFtHt No.416758 Reply
>>416757
Oh, come on now. Its not that bad. I like it, its the best shit on so far aside from Raised By Wolfes. To be honest there's really nothing good on other than those two shows.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 02:51:49 EST +b+TVVsO No.416766 Reply
>>416754
Isn't this just the setting for the G-Men storyline? I guess they're skipping all of that in the TV show as well then.
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Space Ghost - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:38:39 EST E5p0/xCR No.416809 Reply
>>416778
The Boys? Yes. GOT s8? No. Still feel dirty seeing naked arya
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Afro Samurai - Fri, 02 Oct 2020 19:16:24 EST O6Bl26Df No.416867 Reply
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Not sure how it's gonna wrap itself up in on ep. My guess is an open-ended finale that leaves you wanting more...

Queen Maeve nutted Black Noir. Hahhahahahaa.
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Ingrid Bergman - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 17:30:51 EST fIGe3/z7 No.416934 Reply
>Hopes
The fly theory is real; Swatto is the headpopper
Payback and/or Red River are trying to take over Vought from the inside
More Love Sausage, Tek Knight finally appears after getting teased for so long

>Expectations
Homelander gets even more flanderized
Bitcher says "cunt"
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Kandyse McClure - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 23:04:08 EST g1z1z2+h No.416940 Reply
>>416934
We better get Tek Knight next season. Him saving the world while everyone hears his dirty talk is some of the funniest shit in the comic.
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Crunch Buttsteak - Fri, 09 Oct 2020 13:37:32 EST 8h+Kx7ui No.416949 Reply
Wait is the season over now? I've just been waiting so I can binge them all on another free trial of prime
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:09:01 EST NJdldPOO No.416950 Reply
>>416949
Yeah the season finale came out today. I've been waiting as well.
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Thorin Oakenshield - Fri, 09 Oct 2020 21:20:26 EST GgHWFtHt No.416955 Reply
>>416953
>Tek Knight?

A super villain that fucks everything and everyone, and I mean everything.
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Punsy McHale - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:26:23 EST +Lb33GKN No.416965 Reply
I like how Maeve just fucking teleports around whenever kts convenient, like how the fuck did she know the boys were gunna fight stormfront in that random ass field? How the fuck did she find butcher and tommy in the woods? She cant even fly!
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Astro Boy - Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:31:55 EST 57yg1qiz No.416971 Reply
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So any theories on how Soldierboy's character is gonna play out? I doubt he's gonna be a Stormfront simp like in the comics. Edgar mentioned his bodycount at one point which makes it seem like he's not gonna on good terms with Stormfront. My hope is that he's more like "1940's Billy" and not "1940's Homelander".

>>409065
Is The Boys capeshit? The whole point is it's anti capeshit.
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Dr. Rockzo - Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:04:21 EST JlvyBRWQ No.416972 Reply
>>416971
>The whole point is it's anti capeshit.

A lot of attempts at genre deconstructions wind up just reinventing the wheel and contributing towards the genre they were intended to either spoof or tear down
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Tim Burton - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 05:52:01 EST oa2mmJAW No.416977 Reply
>>416972
That doesn't answer the question. Is the boys capeshit and if so, explain in what way.
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Paul Scheer - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 06:24:46 EST JlvyBRWQ No.416978 Reply
>>416977
Ask me again in five years when i can see the impact it's had, or if the success goes to the writers heads. I get that it's a parody of capeshit the way Scary Movie parodied scary movies. But this show also has some heart under it, which could lead to it being treated more seriously than your average Airplane-style spoof-fest. Plus with time, it could always go up it's own ass and accidentally become the very thing it's trying to mock. Right now, it's a mockery of capeshit. In the future, it could be the standard formula when coming up with new capeshit like Watchmen became for gritty superhero crap.
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Bloodyface - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 07:18:19 EST u+SQmS1M No.416979 Reply
>>416977
It's kind of a weird question. Capeshit is just a troll word people use to get a rise out of people who enjoy well crafted yet generic and superficial movies/shows with a particular theme.

Maybe to some people (like OP) think this show isn't capeshit to them because it deconstructs the theme and offers something different which shows them that the theme of superheroes isn't always a massive cash grab that panders to lowest common denominator.
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Eliza Dushku - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:48:11 EST GgHWFtHt No.416983 Reply
>>416979
OP here,

> think this show isn't capeshit to them because it deconstructs the theme and offers something different which shows them that the theme of superheroes isn't always a massive cash grab that panders to lowest common denominator.

This is basically it. Well said.
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Daria Morgendorffer - Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:20:41 EST FsuK91S3 No.416994 Reply
>>416979
They're not that well crafted.

You can see a decline in composition and art style in Marvel and it's pretty consistent.

It's not just Black Panther looking like shit. They're rushing the CG on these movies more and more. The graphics are fine but the animation and camera direction in those scenes is going to absolute shit.
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Deanna Troi - Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:19:21 EST iLbMsEqm No.417120 Reply
It feels like this show went back to square 1 with a couple of diminutive changes. I know it's a meme that it's the "nothing happens" show but I was hoping for some kind of idea about what the next season will be about like the transition from season 1 to 2 was. It also got pretty formulaic halfway into season 2 but I still overall enjoyed it.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:45:06 EST +b+TVVsO No.417122 Reply
>>417120
Yeah I did feel it was treading water a bit for most of the second season, but I still found it entertaining. What I did find sorta cool is that the sorta scenario at the end of the second season is probably as close to the status quo is in the comics.

Like you've got the CIA team with Mallory there, Becca is dead, Hughie and Starlight are sorta friendly again, The Boys having evidence to keep Homelander under control where they're in a sorta ceasefire and Maeve working against Homelander. Also it sounds like we're getting Herogasm next season, as well as Soldier Boy's arc with Dean from Supernatural, which are really big plot events so hopefully they can't keep treading water next season with that happening.
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Deanna Troi - Sun, 25 Oct 2020 18:50:30 EST iLbMsEqm No.417124 Reply
>>417122
That's good. With all the things they are planning for the next season it shouldn't be too monotonous. I'm excited to see how they handle the soldier boy arc
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Jan Skylar - Wed, 28 Oct 2020 10:39:13 EST nFGRAUrt No.417149 Reply
I just watched both seasons after avoiding it for awhile because I'm burnt out on superhero stuff.

It's a pretty ok show but super uneven. Most of all it feels like there's a disconnect between the showrunner and the people writing the scripts episode-to-episode. In the large arc it seems to want to be a criticism of neolib capitalism (Vought), 9/11 neocons (Homelander), and the alt-right (Stormfront) and how they interact and are mostly allied and just jostle a bit for primacy. That's a cool premise.

But just as one example of the uneveness: it's jarring that it then uncritically inserts the standard commie and arab stereotypes without ever really examining it... seemingly because that's just what you do when you need a baddie red-shirt.

There's a bunch of weird little things like that where it seems like the show doesn't gel between its big ideas and the episodes. Then then writers seem to completely lose their way in the final episodes of season 2. A bunch of story beats just seem to happen out of plot convenience. The escape from Vought is just a mess.

Still, it was more worth watching than I thought it would be.
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Count Orlok - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:58:02 EST 1Kon8a0A No.417160 Reply
>>417149
> The escape from Vought is just a mess.
It was so ridiculous I was thinking they were going to show that Vaught wanted her to be broken out as some kind of 5D-chess move. I really wanted that to be the reason it was so fucking easy instead of it just being pure convenience.
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Wilson - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 19:51:31 EST 0e6qypaO No.417166 Reply
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>>417150
>there's a blatant agenda being sold. First season spread it pretty thin but I couldn't even continue season 2 with all the blatant out of place propaganda thrown in.
The message he is talking about is opposed to all the things that benefit amazon.
If you're gonna talk about propaganda in film, go after all the capeshit that literally works with the DoD.

The issue here is hollywood writers are still hollywood writers and fall back on State-Department-Approved narratives about America's Enemies in a work that's supposed to criticize doing exactly that.
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Rupert Giles - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:50:17 EST nFGRAUrt No.417170 Reply
>>417166
It is weird too that the writers conceptualize the CIA as sitting mostly outside those influences, instead of taking orders from them. And government reps as being resistive of it, or at least trying to... which like, what is the government ideology in this universe that it's not totally on board for at least one of these approaches?

Maybe that bit isn't just lazy though, but more reflective of... of a sort of Sorkin worldview... that views systems as fundamentally non-ideological and good, and sees those systems as under attack from ideologies (and ideologies are fundamentally bad). I guess that would explain the baddies too. It's just weird to have a show where Vought is also a "bad guy".

I'm trying not to pull this fully into pol territory but it's a political show and I'm trying to sort out what I even just watched.

Did this show not take government advisement and money? I wouldn't be surprised either way.
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[name redacted] !h55/E7mIo6 - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:36:55 EST +b+TVVsO No.417172 Reply
>>417170
If it was just the show then you might be right, but it's the same thing with the comics as well, and I doubt they're paying off Ennis in the mid-2000s to write propaganda. The writer of the comic is a British guy, but he fucking LOVES World War II, and from that, America with a passion. It's sorta common for his comics to have an issue or two dedicated to both "brotherhood and loss in war" and "the American dream and making it through hard work and a new start".

It's hard to say if any of the big groups are really "good", because they're just suiting their own interests really. Homelander believes he's better than everyone, so he should be revered as a God, most of the rest of the Seven are purely hedonistic, just doing whatever lets them keep eating/fucking whatever they want.

Vought uses the above groups to promote and make superheroes more popular, which means they get more money for toys and stuff made of them. Their main goal in the series is to get a military contract and use superheroes as soldiers instead, which Season 2 touches on, so they basically control the military.

The government/CIA is opposed to the above, but that's because they'd have less power, and be giving it to Vought. Vought publicly uses the argument that there'll be less human deaths if this happens, which is probably true, so you could see the government as bad guys in that regard. But I wouldn't say the government/CIA are any good, just that they oppose Vought and want to keep the status quo.

Even The Boys aren't really good. Most of them are only doing what they do out of revenge, and convince themselves they're doing the right thing as a cope. There's a big fuss in the comics about killing superheroes that haven't even done anything wrong and are harmless. Everyone except Hughie just wants to kill them because "they're supes" and they kill supes. That definitely isn't a good thing. Really, the only person you could say is "good" in the entire story is Hughie, which is what I believe is one of the messages of the comic by the end.
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Ricky Gervais - Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:07:21 EST 0e6qypaO No.417174 Reply
>>417170
>And government reps as being resistive of it, or at least trying to
Did you miss the part where the rep running opposed to Vaught turned out to be a soup?
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Rupert Giles - Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:55:59 EST nFGRAUrt No.417178 Reply
>>417174
I was talking about first season where everyone has to be blackmailed. I'm not talking about the supe plant who's popping heads because she likes supes.
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Kirstie Alley - Sun, 06 Dec 2020 22:56:34 EST k2evD/6s No.417555 Reply
>she closes her eyes before heads explode
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Jerry Lundegaard - Mon, 07 Dec 2020 14:17:28 EST 7LKkEQAJ No.417562 Reply
I've been putting off the second season cause of an interview I think I heard by the show runner who was basically like "yeah dude, super heroes would be this fucked up" maybe he's just trying to protect his future career but the source material and at least the first season to me seemed very much a criticism of the military industrial complex, and how they corrupt even the most wholesome part of society.

I'll probably watch it eventually but I was thinking about how like Watchmen, a work created by an anarchist has been adapted by a fascist and had sequels made by liberals. So I think I'm just frustrated by people being allowed to adapt material they don't understand.
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Bialar Crais - Tue, 08 Dec 2020 01:03:19 EST i8h6oumr No.417567 Reply
>>417562
S2 still has those critiques of the military industrial complex. Less so than S1. It spends a lot of time absolutely roasting the Disney MCU and corporate commodification of social justice causes for self-serving PR. The show doesn't follow the books that much at all, but it's still pretty on point thematically.

https://youtu.be/TDKfqpnFoeQ
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 01 Jun 2021 22:27:42 EST UQAINkuU No.419439 Reply
I finally got around to finishing season 2 since I reupped my Prime membership. It was a pretty action packed and entertaining season. It's funny seeing Aya Cash play Stormfront as an allegory to the alt-right after seeing her play another shitty person as Gretchen on You're the Worst although she killed it on both shows.

I do agree that the whole thing with Hughie helping Starlight escape Vought was pretty lackluster and should have been a bigger deal other than Lamplighter self-immolating himself. I also felt like Maeve, Starlight and Kimiko beating the shit out of Stormfront felt forced but each of them did have a grudge against her and it was funny just seeing Frenchie, Hughie, and MM just in disbelief. I do like Frenchie and Kimiko's friendship on the show though.

I guess for season 3 Victoria Neuman is gonna turn out to be the show's wildcard since she blew everyone's heads off though she also blew the head off of the head of the Church of the Collective. Also this >>416934 especially Butcher calling people cunts.
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Fleur Isabelle Delacour - Sat, 05 Jun 2021 08:18:32 EST hXcuhKu/ No.419467 Reply
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>>417562
>Watchmen, a work created by an anarchist has been adapted by a fascist

Snyder considers himself a liberal.
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Francis Ford Coppola - Tue, 08 Jun 2021 16:49:23 EST fI+dMCwM No.419506 Reply
>>409065
Jenson Eckles has a debut character on this show in Season 3 coming up.

I watched him on Supernatural. He looks to be some sort of Captain America-Lite here, hope that works out. Someone let me know how he does, I dont and cannot watch.
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Mouse Fitzgerald - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:37:20 EST p1yJQmVX No.419639 Reply
ok just finished s2, that sucked they should end it there because nazi is killed and they only have superman left jerking it off. And the country can manufacture the compound anytime, they don't need some company controlling it. Stories adrift.

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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 06 Jun 2022 08:30:02 EST NJdldPOO No.422126 Reply
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First three episodes of season 3 came out on Friday and I really enjoyed them. That scene where Termite shrunk and went into that dude's urethrae only to sneeze and kill the guy was fucking brutal but I do enjoy the show's brutality. They've really made Homelander into such a piece of shit that basically threatening Starlight to destroy the whole world when she tried to speak up about The Deep coming back to The Seven and forcibly shipping himself with her at Hughie's expense is gonna create all sorts of problems. Also liked Butcher's fight with Gunpowder and fucking up his shit with his V24 enhanced powers. Season is off to a good start at least.
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C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:32:56 EST /Tr1eEJh No.422168 Reply
Wow that fight scene with Kimiko using those dildos and fucking everyone's shit up was awesome. Also Victoria has a ton of lady balls to throw Stan under the bus for Homelander in exchange for injecting Zoe with Compound V but like Stan said, Homelander has no one protecting him and covering for him anymore so I take that as foreshadowing. I guess A-Train snitching to Homelander was a way to try to get in his good graces and get back at The Deep sucking up to him. I did also find that energy drink commercial to be a funny parody of that Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial.[/%]

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