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- Fri, 30 Aug 2019 16:54:58 EST lFViSBll No.409720
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They dropped the "Final Trailer" 2 days ago.

Who's hype?

JOKER - Teaser Trailer

JOKER - Final Trailer
Saul Tigh - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:34:50 EST XqPvvCzx No.409723 Reply

It's not really a Joker movie since they just decided to make shit up on DC's dime. At least it isn't whatever the fuck that awful Jared Leto movie would have been, I guess. Also, Todd Phillips is a fucking weirdo so I'm guessing this movie is going to have extreme violence for the sake of trying to rile up soccer moms and appeal to edgelords.
Brandy Ledford - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 23:44:52 EST aVmktPbW No.409742 Reply
>Who's hype

Me, but not for this movie. Probably won't ever see it unless the reviews blow me away.
Martin Freeman - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 00:28:25 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.409743 Reply
Top notch actor but I'm not remotely interested.
Martin Freeman - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 00:32:06 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.409747 Reply
I was actually interested in Leto's take if the character had turned out to be not the original Joker but a previous Robin driven mad by Joker. Would have been the only that made it interesting.
Tara Maclay - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 02:21:57 EST XqPvvCzx No.409753 Reply
That would have been shit. Just watch the Batman Beyond movie if you want to see that.
Martin Freeman - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 02:40:21 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.409755 Reply
Who gives a shit if it's good? DC can barely get anything right and the trainwreck of their continued attempts at a dark comic world coupled with Leto's over the top shit would be amazing for all the wrong reasons. It would probably flop and immediately hit cult status. The only wronger idea I'd want would be to give the role and creative to Crispin Glover.
Will McAvoy - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 03:41:00 EST rWRjXkS+ No.409756 Reply
I refuse to watch this "pimpcore" movie. Don't support pimps!
Robert DeNiro - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 09:20:04 EST fBh7Tid8 No.409761 Reply

This. My friend and I were talking about it last night. Remember when the trailers for Batman v Superman looked amazing?
Rupert Giles - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 10:13:16 EST YtzZGBrx No.409762 Reply
>Remember when the trailers for Batman v Superman looked amazing?
Richard Attenborough - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 17:39:32 EST 3j5QviKe No.409764 Reply
I don't think I'm physically capable of getting hyped for a movie based off of a trailer anymore. I don't think I like being lied to as much as most people, though.
Gigi Edgley - Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:39:52 EST XgsH7nii No.409771 Reply
Be real with me, does the "full" trailer tell me the whole damn movie?

It's an ugly habit and I'd like to know if I can save time and dime on this.
Trunk Slamchest - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 03:37:05 EST XqPvvCzx No.409777 Reply
If there's ever a movie you're interested in seeing, never watch the trailer.
Harrison Ford - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 19:13:21 EST MN7hIV6E No.409814 Reply
Doesn't spoil much tbh, just shows he becomes the joker... which you already know.

I'm pretty hype for this.
Kirito - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:05:47 EST T7yLH+oq No.409829 Reply
What sucks is that you can say the same for synopsises, a movie can't be boiled down to a sentence. So really there is no quick way to gage interest in a movie.
Kirito - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:29:59 EST T7yLH+oq No.409832 Reply
Maybe with a movie like Skyscraper, a tag will be accurate. I meant they can't do it and be accurate. Obviously. Most films aren't simple enough for 15 words. Nevermind the fact that they're designed to sell not designed to be accurate, hence the comparison to trailers. The people designing them to put assess in seats don't care if the movie is ruined or if the moviegoer gets what they were expecting or hoping for
Kirito - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:07:15 EST T7yLH+oq No.409839 Reply
I think of the tag line for Event Horizon. Infinite Space, Infinite Terror. All that says is that it's a horror movie in space. It doesn't describe the plot at all. It's a great descriptor though, someone talented wrote that.
Benjen Stark - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 08:59:16 EST SjT8TyAf No.410052 Reply
The traditional Harley wouldn't fit the mood. It'd be like having had her in The Dark Knight. A moodier take on her deserves its own movie. Watching Joker pull Harleen into his vortex of madness could be some real Silence of the Lambs-type stuff. Plus it could even be sequelized with a lesbian romance crime drama Harley and Ivy adaptation. Harley Quinn could've been a good female cornerstone to a more competently developed DC cinematic universe.
Ren Höek - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:51:58 EST zNWYaT9u No.410058 Reply

>developing a complex and multi-layered story that follows the psychological change of a central character

>churning out common denominator sequels and reboots following the same tired formula, explosions and lens flares everywhere

which one do you think the executives will choose
Rose Tyler - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:12:03 EST RwmTAlme No.410059 Reply
Hey, Two Face is in Dark Knight. It could be done, just a little more difficult than doing baller CGI in a time not quite known for it.

The Two-face setup is a much more convenient contrivance than trying to explore all the shit going on in Quinn's origin story.
Old Gregg - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:02:34 EST WJmwTfU9 No.410061 Reply
>Hey, Two Face is in Dark Knight.

with a revised backstory and a truncated character arc. it worked fine for what the movie accomplished, but harley would've been superfluous in that film and in this one. a solo harley movie, harley and ivy, a GOOD suicide squad, or just a batman movie with joker and harley are all better options.
Abed Nadir - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:40:17 EST f4Ot2UEO No.410062 Reply
I'm kind of sick of movies trying to make shallow shit deep. The Killing Joke joker was the best because he was just a cartoony fuck that would rather laugh than brood. As much as I liked Heath Ledger's joker I feel like every subsequent joker now is going to try and be gritty-dark and I don't like it. I haven't liked any of the DC movies since Dark Knight so maybe it's just not my thing.

I am stoked as fuck for Batman vs. Ninja Turtles though.
Old Gregg - Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:57:29 EST WJmwTfU9 No.410063 Reply
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>I am stoked as fuck for Batman vs. Ninja Turtles though.
>mfw it's a cartoon

don't get my hopes up like that
Louise Jameson - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:10:01 EST oa2mmJAW No.410065 Reply
I know all the pimps are super hyped that they have a new Joker to masturbate over and that's going to be super shitty but I'd like to think that Joaquin Phoenix has more integrity than to be a part of that. Can't say the same for the director but you know it still might surprise us.
Stan Laurel - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 04:19:21 EST yCgULlJ7 No.410232 Reply
On the one hand I'm interested because it's cool to see capeshit that goes beyond EU shit, on the other hand people have said the movies it is based on are too similar so I wouldn't want to feel bored because I've already seen King of Comedy and Taxi driver
Stormy Waters - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:22:37 EST XEGktpdg No.410237 Reply
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Part of the reason I haven't and probably won't see this is I'm still scarred from the Star Wars prequels. Sorry to invoke them, but I think it's true. Ever since then I can't ever recall paying to see a movie that sought to explain or provide details to the backstory of an iconic character whose biography was hazy beforehand.
Tyrion Lannister - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 18:06:52 EST Wi0nQ/Tk No.410239 Reply
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OP here, yea I don't got to the cinema lol. Only for 3D and last time was Blade Runner 2049.
These days with so much streaming, A movie will end up in good quality on torrents almost exactly 3 months after premiere.
Chucky Finster - Sun, 22 Sep 2019 06:59:09 EST p0BJi6qi No.410255 Reply
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>I've been driving stoned since I was your age, Luke, it's cool.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 02:13:36 EST 2QAzq0Ao No.410352 Reply
I mean I’m definitely gonna see the film and Joaquin Phoenix’s take on the character but what shit are people smoking in saying that this film is going to inspire pimps to massacre people?
Adam West - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 03:51:38 EST X7bIxG1F No.410353 Reply
It's been a few weeks without a mass shooting. Something's bound set an pimp off soon, so people might as well start identifying places not to be when that happens. Personally I don't anticipate a dignified death, but I ain't going out watching Joker.
Milos Forman - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 03:56:09 EST /irnYIXE No.410354 Reply
>Something's bound set an pimp off soon

Probably some jive ass ho like you
John Rhys-Davies - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 06:23:02 EST zNWYaT9u No.410355 Reply

family members of people killed in the aurora movie theater shooting are expressing their concern

im not saying i agree with them but its worth considering their perspective
Adam West - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 09:24:53 EST X7bIxG1F No.410364 Reply
Weeks, days... fact of the matter is that friendless, joyless, hopeless creeps, the likes of which frequent these boards (see above) are always getting triggered, emboldened, and inspired by stuff like this movie. Identifying where a mass shooting is likely to occur and avoiding those places is sound planning in modern America.
Kitty Pride - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:40:28 EST I8wvWN4R No.410366 Reply
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Considered and discarded: This is just the a rehash of the "video-games cause real-world violence" meme.
Billy Madison - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:30:41 EST E5p0/xCR No.410370 Reply
Although I also think it's a little ridiculous and a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy, to argue for the other side, Taxi Driver (which is sorta the vibe the trailers for this movie are giving me) did inspire the assassination attempt on Reagan. Considering the world we currently live in, what with the prevalence of mass shootings and one having already been ''joker themed'', it's not a baseless concern
Happy Gilmore - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:30:56 EST I9XtkShq No.410371 Reply
That guy shot up that theater because he was a lonely failson with delusions of grandeur, forced to come to terms with the fact that he wasn't as smart as he thought he was as he was flunking out of his fancy neuroscience degree.

Not because of some comic book clown.

>James Holmes was never “the Joker.” He never told witnesses or arresting officers he was the evil and charismatic villain from the Batman comic strip and movies. Yet, this bad rumor born from initial press reports after the July 20, 2012, shooting in an Aurora theater is repeated by national media almost every time Holmes resurfaces in the news.

>The article linked to a 2012 ABC News report with a statement by New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, saying Holmes had called himself the Joker. Kelly’s comment to the press appears to be the origin of this myth. Why the NYPD police commissioner would be in a position to know anything about police activity in Aurora is beyond me.

>“It is not true,” said George Brauchler, the 18th Judicial District attorney, who prosecuted the case. “It is ridiculous,” he said. “Completely unfounded. Some of this stuff. … It gets repeated by so many sources by people doing their research that it just becomes real.” Investigators heard no witness talking about the Joker, he said. And no police officer claimed Holmes called himself the Joker.

>Holmes told a psychiatrist he dyed his hair red because “red suggests bravery.”

>The Joker, by the way, has green hair.
Flint Ironstag - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 21:06:03 EST st2KjUls No.410383 Reply
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who gives a shit, what does that have to do with people being scared some dipshit is gonna shoot up a theater? Other people rationalizing their fear around a fucking cartoon clown doesn't mean their concerns should be dismissed. There's a very real problem with terminally online unfuckable men acting out violently
Harry Potter - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:21:33 EST /irnYIXE No.410387 Reply


Also, this movie looks shitty and the outrage around it seems fakey. Todd Phillips is a hack.
Ashley Scott - Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:45:36 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.410389 Reply
Rich white guys living with mom and dad in a big suburban villa aren't on the bottom of the social ladder.

Fuck off.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 00:50:31 EST jRjEOvBm No.410390 Reply
Or Natural Born Killers inspiring a bunch of copycat crimes that it got its own Wikipedia page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Killers_copycat_crimes

I mean I get it but people blaming television, video games, and other forms of media as to why they would try to kill other people is not really an excuse and it's reductive in diminishing that person's own responsibility for their act of violence when there are other mitigating circumstances to consider. Still, I'd be interested to see if Joker actually does inspire people to do shit like this. Otherwise it'll just be another case of moral panic.
Thomas Anderson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 05:22:54 EST I9XtkShq No.410394 Reply
If your oberblown censorious fear of cartoon clowns is based on demonstrably false misinformation then yes, yes your concerns should be dismissed.

You gonna start demanding we kowtow to flat-earthers and antivaxxers next?
Patrick Wilson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 07:40:36 EST 70F2IVjp No.410397 Reply
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I refuse to watch this shit. Too obvious where they wanna go with this clown shit . Time for people to dress up as batmans beat clowns up
Flint Ironstag - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:31:03 EST st2KjUls No.410401 Reply
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except flat earth and anti vaxx shit is entirely baseless. You must be being intentionally obtuse. It's not the character, it's the ideology. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, dumbass
Thomas Anderson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:27:50 EST I9XtkShq No.410403 Reply
>except flat earth and anti vaxx shit is entirely baseless.
And so is the idea that the Joker had anything to do with the Aurora shooting.

How is your brain having such a hard time with this?
Sally Jupiter - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:48:15 EST SihzBo2j No.410404 Reply
I'm concerned that Harry Potter is going to cause school shootings please don't dismiss my concerns I am very smart.
Flint Ironstag - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:00:50 EST st2KjUls No.410405 Reply
lol not having a hard time at all, you just keep insisting on countering a point I never made

never said anything about media "causing" shootings

Sally Jupiter - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:12:02 EST SihzBo2j No.410406 Reply
Then what is even your point?

Mass shootings exist in the same universe that Joker exists but the two have no causative connection?

Okay? Lots of things exist in the same universe as mass shootings. So what? What are you even arguing?
Flint Ironstag - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:21:21 EST st2KjUls No.410407 Reply
>Other people rationalizing their fear around a fucking cartoon clown doesn't mean their concerns should be dismissed. There's a very real problem with terminally online unfuckable men acting out violently

wish yall could read
Thomas Anderson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:31:46 EST I9XtkShq No.410408 Reply
If your point isn't that the Joker had something to do with inspiring the Aurora shooting, then why did you start arguing with me when I pointed out that the Joker had nothing to do with the Aurora shooting?


Sally Jupiter - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:36:47 EST SihzBo2j No.410409 Reply
We can read, and we're disagreeing with the meaningless pablum that you're writing.

If someone's concerns are stupid and wrong and based on misinformation, then they should be dismissed.

This was true when you dumbasses were just "concerned" about rock music, when you were just "concerned" about D&D, when you were just "concerned" about GTA3, and now when you're just "concerned" about cartoon clowns.

Your concerns are fucking dumb, they have always been dumb, and we are going to dismiss them because they are dumb.
Boba Fett - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:37:51 EST 4zDu4Muv No.410410 Reply
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the word is out so now joker screenings are safe. now authorities are warning that the gemini man might lead to an increase in people shooting themselves.
Sally Jupiter - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 17:10:55 EST SihzBo2j No.410413 Reply
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What if that new Rambo movie leads to Boomer mass shootings?

I mean, Vietnam vets have killed people before, I'm just saying.
Boba Fett - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 17:19:17 EST 4zDu4Muv No.410414 Reply
vietnam vets don't kill because of movies, they kill because of vietnam.
Brak - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:08:17 EST nX4q7PHo No.410416 Reply
>and now when you're just "concerned" about cartoon clowns.

Are people concerned about "cartoon clowns" or are they concerned about being shot in a movie theater? I thought it was the second one.

Don't go to see Rambo, then.

There's obviously no credible threat to going to see Joker otherwise the person(s) making the threats would be in custody. And odds are nothing will come of this and the Army is just warned its troops to be careful because that's what they do all the time and this just got out because it involved a major Hollywood movie.

If you're worried about a shooter at a theater you're probably avoiding theaters altogether and not just specific movies. It's not like a shooter can't walk out of one auditorium and into another (or a bathroom/arcade/lobby/etc). If you're worried about an involuntary celibate white male getting his hands on a firearm and laying waste to a public place then you're probably not going anywhere crowded. If you're a rational person who knows you're gonna go one day, then you do what you must and what you please and don't let the whims of psychos control what you do or where you go.

I think the movie looks alright.
Thomas Anderson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:17:37 EST I9XtkShq No.410417 Reply
>I thought it was the second one.
Well then it's weird how they didn't make a separate "I'm scared of being shot in movie theaters that has nothing to do with the recent clickbait articles/guerilla marketting campaign/low-key censorship apologia that's trying to reignite the decades-old cycle of offloading deepr cultural issues onto hotbutton media ephemera" thread.

And are instead shitting up the cartoon clown thread, and only the cartoon clown thread.

It's almost like it's obviously specific to this one cartoon clown movie and you're being really disingenuous.
Morgan Freeman - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:36:47 EST kBPRaSuY No.410418 Reply
>Are people concerned about "cartoon clowns" or are they concerned about being shot in a movie theater? I thought it was the second one.

People are concerned about the movie, its lead character, and its subject matter inspiring the kinds of violence we saw in Colorado during a screening of another Batman movie. And while there are not "credible" threats, pimp violence is always a real threat. The Army memo was not a typical "Security Briefing." The DoD is wise to steer people away, and it's a shame that if a shooting happens at a Joker screening people will bitch and moan about what we could've done to prevent it when warnings are being given loud and clear. The LAPD is not part of a media hype machine. AMC, Regal, and Landmark theaters are all taking steps like banning costumes. Go see the movie if you fucking want, but don't act like people talking about it being about a "cartoon clown" are talking nonsense. How about we applaud authorities for trying to prevent another mass shooting instead of criticizing people for being cautious in a day and age where no establishment is safe from rogue shooters.
Douglas Quaid - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:52:05 EST IBJAbzvX No.410420 Reply
lol this convo.

When Star Wars: The Last Jedi came out, I got super high in the parking lot first and then during the film, I got super paranoid that a mass shooting was about to happen and was freaking out. In hindsight, I know it was insane stoner-think, but damn, the media does good at worming it's scare tactics into your head. Like, yes, there's a chance a mass shooting will happen at the Star Wars screening I'm at, but it's far less likely than the odds of dying in a car accident. Just add mass shootings to the list of many things that could potentially kill you but 99.999% likely they won't
MC Pee Pants - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:24:37 EST siVPO6Mc No.410423 Reply
That happens a lot less to me since I started getting high and going to kids films. Rio 2 in 3d was a blast, Kung Fu Panda 3 was surreal in 3d...
Glenn Quagmire - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:28:21 EST z5UBkt7+ No.410424 Reply
>When Star Wars: The Last Jedi came out, I got super high in the parking lot first

Thomas Anderson - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:34:53 EST I9XtkShq No.410425 Reply
>Like, yes, there's a chance a mass shooting will happen at the Star Wars screening I'm at, but it's far less likely than the odds of dying in a car accident.
This. Even if video games Marilyn Manson cartoon clowns caused mass shootings, you're still far more likely to die in the car on the way to the theater.

I have concerns about cars.
Glenn Quagmire - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:38:29 EST z5UBkt7+ No.410426 Reply
tbf it's live action.

also lol at this conversation. i'm going to wait and see if the word of mouth is any good and by then any shootings will have happened.
Christoper Turk - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 19:46:35 EST vxCy0Hjs No.410427 Reply
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If you're talking about America then yes, shootings will have happened.

Dial my 1-800 number for more psychic predications.
Dolores Haze - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 20:07:52 EST z5UBkt7+ No.410428 Reply
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>Dial my 1-800 number for more psychic predications.

it's ringing...
Gustavo Fring - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:06:22 EST tlBqdbBc No.410438 Reply
>picks up after ten rings
Will not rely on this psychic ever again. 1 star rating.
Nicholas Cage - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 02:59:33 EST OMNGmLjJ No.410439 Reply
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"Woof, woof, bark, bark!"
"He just hung up, how rude!"
Jodi Foster - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:57:18 EST bVNoacgZ No.410444 Reply
Lol the press got themselves disinvited from the premiere for calling Joker an pimp movie.
Robert DeNiro - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:20:01 EST mfp7yRbp No.410447 Reply
lol I was wondering why people kept using that word ITT, I thought it was some hip new slang. Lots of new catplanets lately, wonder if there's any others we haven't noticed yet

test: autist retard faggot
Commander Louanne Katraine - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 18:11:57 EST i7XWVKfQ No.410448 Reply
Honestly autist should filter to enthusiast to go with enthusiastic being filtered to enthusiastic and enthusiasm to enthusiasm.
Chevy Chase - Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:34:13 EST 9Oh2a4gN No.410452 Reply
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Take your sexless OCD elsewhere you chicken nuggets. We are trying discuss this dramatic clown movie.
Lee Meriwether - Sun, 29 Sep 2019 00:10:55 EST 4LJsvqca No.410455 Reply
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he calls himself the JOKER because he knows the world is a joke... wow i never thought about that this movie really makes me think because its a secret message about this FREAKING society i give it 10/10 good philosoftical movie with cool comic character. penis
Noranti Pralatong - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 13:33:34 EST gVFiet/2 No.410556 Reply
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So, has anyone seen the movie yet? Opinions?

I'd love to see Keith Richards play Rambo.
Anne Marie Darkhölme - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 14:13:07 EST soqUyuiZ No.410558 Reply
>So, has anyone seen the movie yet?

No way. First wave always suffers the heaviest casualties.
Satori - Thu, 03 Oct 2019 20:53:37 EST l9eHsysa No.410568 Reply
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It's nuaced with the building of tension. The music matches, the lighting helps greatly to set the bi-polar nature of the character. A perfect storm swells as a series of events sets a man off on a journey to find himself. Joaquin absolutely invokes the origins of the clown prince in a very dark knight rises way...literally...you'll see...it'll put a smile on your face XD
Enola - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:22:13 EST GVkl3+PD No.410584 Reply
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> they just decided to make shit up
This is literally how all stories work.
Enola - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 10:41:07 EST GVkl3+PD No.410585 Reply
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I almost want a mass shooting to happen because of this movie just so all the pimps in this thread whining about censorship choke on their own words.
Vash the Stampede - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 11:03:16 EST cx+mp/DK No.410586 Reply
Dear everyone:

It has come to my attention that the overwhelmingly popular belief is that the Aurora shooter dressed up as Joker and thought he was Joker on account of the batshit crazy.

This is so not true it fucking baffles me. This basically all stems from the fact that his hair was dyed red. You may notice that red is not the color of Joker's hair. If anything, he was cosplaying as ginger Neo from The Matrix.

Please never repeat this retarded shit, and slap all your dumb friends right in the Mandela for me.

Fucks sake...
Enola - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 11:58:57 EST GVkl3+PD No.410587 Reply
You're being disingenuous by repeatedly bringing that up. There exists another precedent for this specific type of movie to motivate someone to commit a shooting: Taxi Driver inspired an attempt on Reagan, and this movie is Taxi Driver with a clown, so it doesn't matter at all, completely, which colour did that lad dye his hair in. Just shut up, you mass shooter sympathiser.
Wei Lo - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 12:54:22 EST bVNoacgZ No.410588 Reply
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Nah it wasn't Taxi Driver, it was Jodi Foster's then underage ass. He wanted to hit that shit.
Next you're gonna tell me that Amy Schumer movies inspire mass shootings cause Trainwreck got shot up. Actually, I'd believe that one.
Vash the Stampede - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:10:10 EST cx+mp/DK No.410589 Reply
>repeatedly bringing that up
Nope. First post. It was in the news at the time he was just wearing a trenchcoat full of guns like any mass shooter you'd imagine.
The irony of a bunch of SJW types up in my social medias repeating this rumor that started basically just because a dude had dyed hair is ironic as all hell, and this isn't a stereotype. Half of their profile pictures have blue or red hair, the crown jewel of them being a dude with his fucking beard dyed blue.

>Just shut up, you mass shooter sympathiser.
Get the fuck out, dipshit. I'm not engaging with your false escalation bullshit.
Refusing to side with bullshit isn't sympathizing with a mass shooter you tremendous cunt.
Enola - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:13:11 EST GVkl3+PD No.410590 Reply
> that image
An pimp portraying normal people as the pathetic virgins who're going to die alone no matter how much they try to argue women into having sex with them is… an interesting tactic.
Enola - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 13:14:16 EST GVkl3+PD No.410591 Reply
> a bunch of SJW
Keep going, I have only a couple boxes left to tick in the pimp bingo.
Wei Lo - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:43:20 EST bVNoacgZ No.410594 Reply
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You seem to be confusing me for this guy. >>410589
If you think Joker inspires mass shootings you are drinking that Kotaku cum and there's no saving you.
Major Motoko Kusanagi - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 15:49:28 EST wQ/yY1/G No.410596 Reply
I saw the movie. It has nothing to do with being an pimp, hating women, anything like that. He was abused all his life and he is mentally unstable and does very bad shit. You feel bad for him at the start but quickly goes off the rails. It's an amazing movie and Joaquin Phoenix absolutely deserves an Oscar nomination. The score is also phenomenal.
Major Motoko Kusanagi - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:33:42 EST wQ/yY1/G No.410599 Reply
I feel ashamed to say I've never seen those movies. I've seen bits and pieces of Taxi Driver, but yes that's what a lot of people are saying. Some say it borrows a bit too much from Taxi Driver.
Vash the Stampede - Fri, 04 Oct 2019 19:23:35 EST cx+mp/DK No.410602 Reply
You act like saying SJW as quick shorthand once means it's coming out of my fingers left and right.

But I just don't have a better thing to call them, and if you were being honest with yourself you wouldn't come up with a better term either. For better or worse, that's the label that works and I'm far too pedantic to abuse it like everyone you're thinking of.
I'm not gonna post their memes here but the amount of logical fallacies they repost just because they lead to SLAYER inclusivity is fucking maddening to me.
Have some goddamn standards. Let me agree with the ideology I agree with instead of dumping a bunch of vapid contradictory shit in my face that I feel compelled to criticize.
It really makes me come off the wrong way.
Moya - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:09:59 EST oa2mmJAW No.410608 Reply
Maybe he doesn't need a better term because he doesn't "other" them like you're doing, pimp.
Alex Cox - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 05:47:20 EST IBJAbzvX No.410609 Reply
lol you've used insel enough times ITT where I know for a fact you haven't gotten laid in years, if ever.
Sheba - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:33:41 EST BnnFogmc No.410610 Reply
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The frogposter right-wing grifters are now saying that, ackchyually, the movie is about how violent and evil the antifa sjews are.
Moya - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 08:56:55 EST oa2mmJAW No.410611 Reply
I've used it once, the second time I actually typed out pimp. Not that what you said makes any logical sense or has anything to do with the post you're responding to.
Wedge !esCRZuVTtY - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:27:30 EST KkmeUbxR No.410614 Reply
The threats of shootings and movie theatres putting up signs and checking bags are all extensions of successful viral marketing to create an immersive air of tension and anxiety im filmgoers that will make them excited as they watch the movie. Much like an amusement park attraction.
Robert Baratheon - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:31:42 EST 8j0CrmPV No.410615 Reply
>America: Where mass shootings are a feature built in to add to the excitement, not a bug that might kill you!
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:33:30 EST lxdTypoA No.410617 Reply
a few days ago one of my friends tried telling me tim pool is good actually and a real centrist and makes good points and it took me 5 minutes to stop laughing
Ichigo Kurosaki - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 10:44:02 EST GVkl3+PD No.410618 Reply
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> You seem to be confusing me
I don't care which one of you you are, I perceive your kind as a mould hivemind that grows on the internet under unclean conditions.
> Kotaku
And another box to tick.
> You act like saying SJW as quick shorthand once means it's coming out of my fingers left and right.
Do you think that the US army is staffed by SJWs? Otherwise you just seem like the kind of person to look for SJWs under your bed.
> if you were being honest with yourself you wouldn't come up with a better term either
Can you describe absolutely every possible category of people with just a term? I don't think that you realise this, but most people don't see pimps as innocent victims, they seem them as potential mass shooters, considering that they actually have committed them and that's how the word even got into the mass vocabulary in the first place. After the multiple examples of supreme gentlemen, it only makes sense to expect for some pimp to get inspired by a story of the pimp icon breaking bad to shoot up some cinema. It's common sense: it's known that pimps are mass shooters, and it's known that pimps worship the Joker, and it's known that this movie was going to be Taxi Driver with a clown, and it's known that Taxi Driver inspired a copycat crime, so the only people who could possibly be complaining about le epic esjewdoublyus are pimps themselves. You must be enthusiastic or have sociopathic tendencies to be this incapable of seeing the common point of view.
I love pimps projecting about projection. I'd advise you to get laid, but you never will. Have fun dying alone.
Wait, so does that mean the film has an anti-fascist message? I might actually go see it now. Cool.
Alex Cox - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 20:18:43 EST 9Oh2a4gN No.410629 Reply
>thinking Tim Pool is anything other than a milquetoast fence sitter
>rubbing elbows with test tube gub gub snail man
Kirt what are you doing
Frodo Baggins - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 20:52:17 EST fBh7Tid8 No.410630 Reply

Let me guess- nobody is actually discussing the movie, are they?
Eragon - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 22:18:18 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.410631 Reply
What are you crying about faggot?

All articles on Kotaku about Joker is how absolutely retarded companies are dealing with this movie.
Akira Kurosawa - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 23:09:02 EST RfhM+cGC No.410635 Reply
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The score is great, the film is well shot, Gotham looks grimy and believable, and Pheonix gives it his all as usual, but I don't think they really knew what to do with these characters. Fleck is too stupid and pathetic to believe his evolution into the terrifying criminal mastermind Joker is supposed to be. His meltdown on the late night show was distilled cringe, and the social commentary on class struggle felt under-developed and boneheaded.

I also really didn't like the disrespectful version of Thomas Wayne as a callous, out-of-touch fatcat politician/businessman dickhead archetype who was also possibly involved in a gross criminal conspiracy to cover up an affair which allows a child to be horribly abused for years. He's also way too fucking old to be playing Bruce Wayne's father. Fleck is also too old for that matter, am I supposed to believe that Joker is going to be in his 60-70s by the time Bruce grows up and faces him?
Bartholomew Kuma - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:59:53 EST 4M7wq9Em No.410641 Reply
>Can you describe absolutely every possible category of people with just a term? I don't think that you realise this

This doesn't make sense and because of that nobody gives a shit, nigga.
Khal Drogo - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 04:09:08 EST 9/eJUzm8 No.410642 Reply
That's because it's not a Joker movie. It's an pimp revenge fantasy that was shoehorned into a DC property after the script was already approved. You shouldn't watch it with any preexisting knowledge of the DC Joker because none of it will make sense.
Steven Seagal - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 08:36:13 EST I9XtkShq No.410645 Reply
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>the disrespectful version of Thomas Wayne
lmao imagine being concerned about showing "respect" for a capeshit background character

"disrespectful " fucking lol
Sharon Stone - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 09:38:26 EST IBJAbzvX No.410647 Reply
lol, that's whats been on my mind every time people say "this isn't my joker" or "this isn't the real joker". Like, so what? In comics, there's a million different realities where Thomas Wayne is either a massive cunt or he's Batman or he's just dead the whole time. He can be anything. Same for Joker. There are alt-reality comics coming out right now where Joker is the hero and Bruce Wayne is an asshole. Who cares if this movie doesn't take place in the same canon realm as the mainline comic?
Matthew Goode - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 11:44:09 EST bVNoacgZ No.410649 Reply
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Imagine caring about a character whose suppose to die within the first 5 minutes of every batman reboot.
Gene Wilder - Sun, 06 Oct 2019 20:43:42 EST x2Zpw5fc No.410661 Reply
Great movie, not for everyone tho. It's all too real as I can relate to mentally ill people.
Princess Bubblegum - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:53:46 EST fibzzpKv No.410669 Reply
Some dipshits brought their enti4re family with them there. Watching them leave after the movie trying to not make eye contact with anyone in the theater was the high light of my day. After watching a great movie of course!
Bollo - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 05:58:49 EST py8GA3J0 No.410671 Reply
Tons of Batman stories portray Thomas Wayne as a bit of a shithead or at least having some dark secrets. It's almost par for the course these days.
Robert Rodriguez - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 08:43:03 EST v4j7wXoQ No.410672 Reply
Was really derivative, similar to Tarantino, not a weakness, I caught a dozen references/pastiche/homages on first viewing.
Chloë Annett - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 09:45:01 EST 1OtNHOZp No.410673 Reply
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>I also really didn't like the disrespectful version of Thomas Wayne as a callous, out-of-touch fatcat politician/businessman dickhead
But that's exactly what someone like him would actually be in reality.
Linda Harrison - Mon, 07 Oct 2019 22:27:12 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.410686 Reply
fucking amazing movie. youre basically a fag if you think otherwise
Jon Lajoie - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 07:27:58 EST Z1pDL6As No.410691 Reply
And they would be right; Todd Phillips made the movie to hold a mirror up to arseholes like this cunt >>410618 Although, I don't know how effective it'll be; I don't think these types of people have the cognitive capacity to be able to think self-critically. I'm suprised they're even able to use the internet...


>“I think it’s because outrage is a commodity, I think it’s something that has been a commodity for a while,” he said. “What’s outstanding to me in this discourse in this movie is how easily the far left can sound like the far right when it suits their agenda. It’s really been eye opening for me.”

Robbie Coltrane - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 07:44:08 EST 8j0CrmPV No.410692 Reply
But even in that line you quoted he implies the bad parts of the far left are when they act like the far right but it appears that you don't have the cognitive capacity to be able to think self-critically enough to recognize this. In fact I'm surprised you're even able to use the internet.

poltards on both sides are fucking braindead
Jon Lajoie - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 08:04:23 EST Z1pDL6As No.410694 Reply
>the bad parts of the far left are when they act like the far right
>literally repeating the quote
>I'm the one without cognisance
Please tell me you're under the influence of heavy sedatives right now and are having trouble maintaining your faculties.
Robbie Coltrane - Tue, 08 Oct 2019 17:54:36 EST 8j0CrmPV No.410696 Reply
oh you are to dumb to realize how dumb you are

must be nice
Krang - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 04:07:46 EST 4LJsvqca No.410704 Reply
the movie was good but how many goddamn taxi driver references do their have to be? I get it, it's inspired by taxi driver. now stop referencing the fucking movie already.
Ingrid Bergman - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 11:55:30 EST wQ/yY1/G No.410709 Reply
It rains and then it stops raining because it can't rain all the time.
Dutch - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 16:01:59 EST aTwET1go No.410715 Reply
this fucking thread holy shit nb
Powdered Toast Man - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 21:24:06 EST fBh7Tid8 No.410721 Reply

>Some dipshits brought their enti4re family with them there.

I just came back from seeing Joker. I know people bring their children to see inappropriate movies all the time, but this movie... just isn't it for that. I was pretty appalled by how many children I saw leaving the theater.

Anyway, it was a fucking awesome movie.
Zooey Deschanel - Wed, 09 Oct 2019 21:34:30 EST WxifQ5Aq No.410722 Reply
thats why contrarianism can be bad
lame edgelord nerd parents deciding their kids can attend rated R films for the sheer audacity of it all.
Debra Morgan - Thu, 10 Oct 2019 04:47:58 EST c5P/8sf0 No.410735 Reply
There's some real try how hards out there that seemed to be really upset at virgins and this movie for some reason? We really do live in the most interesting timeline and the most absurd timeline at the same time.. line.

I'm convinced that all of this ridiculous reaching by the media is their death throes. Rupert Murdoch bought out by so that it wouldn't go under and is using it as his liberal extremist arm to push ridiculous propaganda that wouldn't fly at his more "reputable" publications. But what is the end goal here? Just to sow discord? It really doesn't make sense. Maybe it's just a drive clicks but I don't know. It's all just really stupid. Occam's razor probably says that people are just fucking idiots. I'm really glad that some little edgelord pimp didn't catch the idea from those ridiculous news stories and go shoot up the theater, allowing advice to revel in the fact that they were right with their self fulfilling prophecy.
Jeff Bridges - Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:10:35 EST zx1q0Nl5 No.410750 Reply
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>There's some real try how hards out there that seemed to be really upset at virgins and this movie for some reason? We really do live in the most interesting timeline and the most absurd timeline at the same time.. line.

>I'm convinced that all of this ridiculous reaching by the media is their death throes. Rupert Murdoch bought out by so that it wouldn't go under and is using it as his liberal extremist arm to push ridiculous propaganda that wouldn't fly at his more "reputable" publications. But what is the end goal here? Just to sow discord? It really doesn't make sense. Maybe it's just a drive clicks but I don't know. It's all just really stupid. Occam's razor probably says that people are just fucking idiots. I'm really glad that some little edgelord pimp didn't catch the idea from those ridiculous news stories and go shoot up the theater, allowing advice to revel in the fact that they were right with their self fulfilling prophecy.

Are you lost? You seem lost. Have you tried killing yourself?
Laurie Juspeczyk - Thu, 10 Oct 2019 18:57:23 EST yjE8R6RV No.410753 Reply
>Are you lost? You seem lost. Have you tried killing yourself?
>Outrage over outrage = alignment with the target of initial outrage

Oi! you got a loicence for that false syllogism?

>But what is the end goal here? Just to sow discord? It really doesn't make sense. >Maybe it's just a drive clicks but I don't know.
Of course it is. Media have been bullshitting over dubious claims and boogeymen of the zeitgeist to sell papers for centuries.
Frank Miller - Thu, 10 Oct 2019 21:49:33 EST 0YkUT3ng No.410756 Reply
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I thought it was pretty decent. Joaquin's performance was easily the highlight, the camera work and general atmosphere was also dead on. Those 3 things generally carried the movie. The writing was very average, felt pretty derivative.
Guinevere MacReady - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 14:59:56 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.410795 Reply
going to see it for a 4th time right now. mostly to analyze some things deeper since im doing a paper on it for my film class but wow what an amazing film
Roxann Dawson - Sun, 13 Oct 2019 23:05:59 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.410806 Reply
it's not that type of cringe edge lord paper you're thinking of lol. i'm not analyzing the meaning of the movie and arthur etc. it's more so on the cinematography, editing and sound (amazing score btw)
Nancy Botwin - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:45:39 EST XgsH7nii No.410854 Reply

You're one of those smart humans aren't you? I'm watching you.
Killface - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:47:56 EST gyYRmShX No.410882 Reply
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Just went and saw it. I thought it was a very good movie, but I don't think it lives up to the hype. It didn't 'haunt me' or make me 'feel weird' like all these reviewers are saying, actually on the ride home I didn't even think about it.

Good movie tho, Joaquin was great and will get a nomination I'm sure. Just don't think the movie is as 'deep' as some are making it out to be.

yucko always related.
Muscle Man - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:21:25 EST m/cHbnEJ No.410883 Reply
Would I like it if.I'm someone.who.hates all superhero movies except maybe watchmen, birdman and kickass
Ed Tom Bell - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 01:43:18 EST bMZ3YI2Q No.410886 Reply
This. Good movie. Enjoyable. Really fun tone and atmosphere and performance. Not sure about the whole feeling disturbed part. Normie shit fam.
Han Solo - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:06:53 EST zNWYaT9u No.410890 Reply

lol you sound like me. if you havent tried black panther try it, its pretty good, not nearly as capeshit
Xavier - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 12:45:08 EST udEHKSz9 No.410891 Reply
Watch Super.
>not nearly as capeshit
Yes it is. Are you stupid or something? It's just a regular origin story with a slight African motif.
Lisa Simpson - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:10:19 EST 5+HkDpTX No.410893 Reply

Defendor kinda falls into the same genre, not as good as it could've been though.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 17:20:21 EST RBdu29nx No.410907 Reply
I saw it last week and I enjoyed it and Joaquin Phoenix was phenomenal as Joker. I do agree that it was derivative of anti-hero films like Taxi Driver and Todd Phillips trying to copy Martin Scorcese, who was originally attached as a producer. The one scene where Joker stabbed and bashed Randall's skull in was pretty sick. Also Joker's got dance moves.

Nevertheless, I thought their take on Joker's origin story was good and expanded upon his origin story from the Killing Joke but trying to keep it grounded in realism without the whole Joker falling into a vat of chemicals stuff. If this is the start of DC's non-DCEU Dark universe, I would hope that Marvel could do their own non-MCU universe like their Max comics line but for films. Films like Joker and Deadpool prove that R-rated DC/Marvel comic films can be successful in the box office.

Also Jared Leto not surprisingly was pissed off about this film and tried to stop it from being made - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/youve-got-stop-jared-leto-fumed-new-joker-movie-1247699
Peregrin 'Pippin' Took - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 14:10:52 EST n9YW3w9w No.410962 Reply
heading to the theater for the second time now to see this again.
Liked the first showing, need moar
John Redcorn - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 01:17:23 EST Sj0kf/wq No.410998 Reply
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You remember all those early reviews about Suicide Squad about how Will Smith is playing a real bad guy for the first time in history, and Jared Leto was going to be the most twisted Joker yet, and afterwords it's like "Oh, the reviewers never actually saw the movie, they were just guessing"?
John Crichton - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:29:30 EST 7LKkEQAJ No.411021 Reply
Great performance. Great political message. Mediocre movie.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:44:41 EST 8zFJD8C4 No.411108 Reply
Yeah but that's not as culturally relevant nowadays.
Francis Ford Coppola - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:49:05 EST Sj0kf/wq No.411127 Reply
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These people are taking direct action.
The guy fawks design is owned by Time Warner, sold by Amazon, and produced by child labor, it's the embodiment of ineffectual liberal protest.
Kyle Broflovksi - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:22:14 EST gVFiet/2 No.411128 Reply
A picture of the mask assembly line in operation would be gold.
Noranti Pralatong - Fri, 08 Nov 2019 17:49:10 EST XnMc4cqt No.411314 Reply
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Joker 2019 is a re-skinned Taxi Driver. Nice performance & cinematography but the story has been done better before.
Deanna Troi - Sat, 09 Nov 2019 13:48:20 EST l0QRN3Aq No.411319 Reply
Is that some kind of chilly oil or something? looks lovely
Bloodyface - Sat, 09 Nov 2019 19:05:04 EST MwooVESn No.411324 Reply
I got the same vibes, but the decent into madness with joker where he can't really differentiate between reality and insanity while being thrust into the spotlight and being seen for the first time by anyone.
Bran Stark - Sat, 09 Nov 2019 21:09:04 EST EwFgC9gd No.411327 Reply
it's chili paste either with ground onions or ground shrimp
Hesh Hepplewhite - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:32:18 EST Thq6lpqj No.411332 Reply
taxi driver with clowns
Frank Gallagher - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:43:05 EST IBJAbzvX No.411333 Reply
Only old fags know what the fuck Taxi Driver is. Hell, most people dont even know what taxis are anymore. Quit whining that this is similar to some old movie nobody knows/likes/cares about in 2019
Raquel Welch - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 07:54:13 EST dZvou4kh No.411334 Reply
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This post just reeks of an old Boomer trying to gatekeep what the younger generations know about.
Robert Pattinson - Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:24:29 EST u1KKG0qM No.411347 Reply
They can't just go to the video store anymore, Taxi Driver would be a hard find.
Steven Seagal - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 00:09:59 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.411357 Reply
Saw it again for the 6th time today. Last 2 times I didn't pay for tickets though, just snuck into a showing after seeing different movies. Definitely the greatest film released in the past 10 years. Maybe even the greatest of this century
Callie Maggotbone - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 00:30:49 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.411359 Reply
What a waste of time. Your girlfriend must be so disappointed in you.

hahahahhahaha, "girlfriend". whew... I slay me.
Steven Seagal - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 13:07:54 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.411372 Reply
not a troll. i've been out of work due to a serious shoulder injury for a month now and all my usual hobbies are physical so i have a lot of free time. i love film in general and i've seen some of my favorites several times all the way thru so its no surprise ive seen joker that many times especially it still being out in theaters and being one of the best movies released in recent times
Callie Maggotbone - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 14:14:23 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.411373 Reply
Was it a repetitive stress injury from fist pumping to your favorite Joker scenes? Are your favorite Joker scenes EVERY Joker scene?
Naoko Mori - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:01:07 EST IBJAbzvX No.411378 Reply
>i've been out of work due to a serious shoulder injury for a month now
suuuure. Get a fucking job hippy.
Monster Carrot - Thu, 14 Nov 2019 03:15:53 EST qf/75Hxy No.411448 Reply

I'm down with this version of Harley, even if I don't agree with her voice casting. The rest of the voice cast seems pretty good. Especially Alan Tudyk Joker and Ron Funches King Shark. Jim Rash as the Riddler is totally icing on the cake at this point.

This series really seems like DCU finally cutting loose and having fun with the IP they're dealing with.
Officer Barbrady - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 15:40:16 EST 5z9B8YeM No.411570 Reply
Made $1 billion... I expected it to do well but not THAT good
Jane Fonda - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:00:02 EST S5qiTdEP No.411575 Reply
Rise up!

It was also a really good movie. My theatre was completely silent the entire movie. No laughing, no gasps or anything. Just silence.
Jacob Black - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:38:57 EST RfhM+cGC No.411583 Reply
The fuck is with the guy who keeps spamming pics of little girls? Not even pics, screenshots of his phone. What's wrong with you?
Callie Maggotbone - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:04:21 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.411620 Reply
same here for most of the showings i watched. the 2nd time i saw it though there was like a 10 year old in the theater who was laughing at stuff that wasn't even supposed to be funny and just being weird at random times throughout the movie. like who the fuck brings a little kid to a film like this? it's a pretty damn serious R rated film to begin with and a kid can't even truly appreciate or understand it anyways.

the other times i saw it everyone was pretty quiet as well. only a couple laughs at some scenes like the "miniature golf" joke, the door lock scene, etc.
Natsu Dragneel - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 14:11:37 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.411649 Reply
Hey, fist pump. Are you guys going toriot if it doesn't get an Oscar?
Valeris - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:13:58 EST mZ+9zoW6 No.411694 Reply
well im not gonna be surprised if it doesnt win anything since we live in a society

nah seriously though the film/its actors prolly wont get shit cause all of the negative hype mainstream hollywood/media caused. i think i was reading somewhere some of the critics wont even watch it so they cant even judge it all just lol. masterpieces dont need stupid rewards anyways
Echo - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 00:57:39 EST io/VFBzy No.411710 Reply
It means none of that shit has happened or is even all that likely to happen. It's as likely as anything to win some stuff, and is gonna get some nominations for sure.
Edgar Wright - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 14:01:28 EST cz5mmunk No.411751 Reply
Was this movie just Arthur's dream?
Davros - Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:41:28 EST WxifQ5Aq No.411752 Reply
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Part of me noticed that it very well could be seen as such.

I think, for the most part, it’s portrayed more like that than anything else.

Except the part where he creates Batman and we witness the most undeniable canon throughout the film: Bruce Wayne’s parents were criminally murdered and this entire film is what lead to it.

What created Batman? Childhood trauma?
Mental illness of an innocent woman and failed mother?
Abuse to an adopted child of hers via toxic masculinity and neglect of it?
Was Batman created because of a Woman? Because of the Joker’s mother causing all of this, or can we not see her as the root cause behind all this?

Lawrence "Chunk" Cohen - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:57:55 EST uPfWKKgn No.411805 Reply
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>Was Batman created because of a Woman? Because of the Joker’s mother causing all of this, or can we not see her as the root cause behind all this?

*Deep dramatic voice* They were all created by the ruthless streets of Gotham. *Deep dramatic voice*

In other words. Just like the fictional characters, they were created by mankind. Its flaws, its perks.
Like diamonds are created from extreme pressure.
Tommen Baratheon - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 04:52:08 EST 4LJsvqca No.411855 Reply
I can already tell this is going to be retarded
Legolas - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 10:03:59 EST 9Oh2a4gN No.411856 Reply
The site won't even let me read it so whatever, fuck whitey and all that
Ryan Atwood - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 10:22:36 EST Sj0kf/wq No.411858 Reply
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The Real Threat of ‘Joker’ Is Hiding in Plain Sight

What the film wants to say — about mental illness or class divisions in
society — is not as interesting as what it accidentally says about whiteness.
By Lawrence Ware

Published Oct. 9, 2019
Updated Oct. 11, 2019

This article contains spoilers for “Joker.”

Before “Joker” opened last weekend, much was being made of how its tale of a
murderous villain echoed news stories of mass shooters and pimp threats, and
how the film might encourage unbalanced viewers to commit acts of violence. As
it turned out, it mainly inspired audiences to open their wallets for the
biggest October opening ever.

After watching the film, I could understand the concerns: Directed by Todd
Phillips and starring Joaquin Phoenix as the deranged clown Arthur Fleck, the
title character, “Joker” is simultaneously a well-made film in its own right
and a blatant mash-up of “The King of Comedy” and “Taxi Driver.” It nods at
classism and winks at the Bruce Wayne family mythos, but at its core the movie
is about a mentally ill loner.

Still, what struck me most is that what the film wants to say — about mental
illness or class divisions in American society — is not as interesting as what
it accidentally says about whiteness. For it is essentially a depiction of
what happens when white supremacy is left unchecked. It shows the delusions
that many white men have about their place in society and the brutality that
can result when that place is denied.

The fact that the Joker is a white man is central to the film’s plot. A black
man in Gotham City (really, New York) in 1981 suffering from the same
mysterious mental illnesses as Fleck would be homeless and invisible. He
wouldn’t be turned into a public figure who could incite an entire city to
rise up against the wealthy. Black men dealing with Fleck’s conditions are
often cast aside by society, ending up on the streets or in jail, as studies
have shown.

And though Fleck says he often feels invisible, had he been black, he truly
would have been — except, of course, when he came into contact with the
police. They’d be sure to see him.

Though Fleck is pursued and investigated by Gotham’s finest, his whiteness
acts as a force field, protecting him as he engages in the violent acts of the
latter half of the film. Consider his appearance on the live talk show hosted
by Murray Franklin (Robert De Niro). A black man acting as strangely as Fleck
does would not have been allowed to go on the air. But the white Fleck is
given access, and bloodshed soon follows.

Or look at how Fleck interacts with others. He is frequently in conversation
with people who occupy a lower rung in society than he does: a state-appointed
therapist he sees early on; a protective mother who chastises him for playing
peekaboo with her son on the bus; his possible love interest, a neighbor who
lives in the same building; and the psychiatrist he sees in Arkham Asylum.
Every one of these characters is a black woman with whom he eventually has
confrontations. Phillips consistently places Fleck in an oppositional or
antagonistic position to these women.

I don’t know if this is intentional on Phillips’s part, but it is significant.
When we learn that his relationship with the neighbor (played with artful
restraint by Zazie Beetz) was merely a figment of his troubled imagination,
the way he leaves the apartment implies that this realization has led Fleck to
kill her and perhaps her child. After his final conversation with the Arkham
doctor, his bloody footsteps suggest that he kills her as well.

Fleck kills white men because he cannot access their status and is ostracized
by them, but his black female victims are so invisible that the film does not
bother to show their deaths. We as viewers can and should take note of them.

There are other ways that whiteness informs Fleck’s character. He anticipates
he’ll be treated as a son by the Wayne family, and assumes he’ll be given
medical records just by asking the hospital orderly (played by the great Brian
Tyree Henry). The privileges that come with Fleck’s race set him up for these
unrealistic expectations. When they’re not met, the consequences are deadly.

Whiteness may not have been on the filmmakers’ minds when they made “Joker,”
but it is the hidden accomplice that fosters the violence onscreen.
The Monarch - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:18:50 EST WxifQ5Aq No.411860 Reply
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complete fucking bullshit, honestly.

Bitch is trying to once again draw attention away from big bad whitey and to their own communities OVER A COMIC BOOK adaptation put in theatres. That is Insanity.

No, if Arthur/TheFuckingJOKER was black, it would not be any different, and no, he didn’t have it any better as this cunt also implied a black Arthur would be ignored by society(like this one wasn’t?) and would be homeless on the streets(like that wasn’t slightly portrayed already in the film for Arthur on the ground in wet dirty back alleyways)

Fuck this article. 2/10 for the fact I am responding.
does the cunt feel okay imagining WhiteFace painted over a black man to portray Joker? Because news flash bitch, the artist never painted clowns with Blackface and the paint is never gonna be anything but White so how tf is a Black Joker even make sense in her dumb ass head? They’d have to paint a black man white just to even entertain this dumb ass article’s ideas.
Jack Skellington - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:42:04 EST uPfWKKgn No.411862 Reply
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why shit the thread up with this garbage?

We were having such a great time...
Chiana - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:41:55 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.411870 Reply
Triggered honky detected.

Please don't shoot up any places of worship.
Ryan Atwood - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 16:05:17 EST Sj0kf/wq No.411874 Reply
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"the joker getting fucked by the rich and killing random people is bad because a black joker would had been fucked harder and had fewer avenues to kill random people" is a pretty bad take.
Ryan Atwood - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 18:39:26 EST Sj0kf/wq No.411883 Reply
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The movie's good, it's just that the racial aspects of it are just extensions of the class conflict.

lol except the coworker and his mom, every person the Joker shot had it coming as they're all pillars of a system that does far worse.
Phil Ken Sebben - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:39:37 EST gyYRmShX No.411885 Reply
>says that something doesn't make sense
>then continues to post shit that makes no sense

Chiana - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:58:48 EST 9Oh2a4gN No.411887 Reply
Simon Petrikov - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:29:10 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.411897 Reply
Joaquin's performance is good. As usual. The rest is a mediocre double homage to Scorsese and a lot of emotional fan wank from people who think it encapsulates their age. Not accusing anyone here in particular. Hopefully Joaquin has the sense to say no to the sequel they're churning out because it would demystify the only hook it has, "Did any of it really happen?".
Tom Anderson - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:50:05 EST WxifQ5Aq No.411898 Reply
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> double homage
> to Scorsese
who? How?

I ask because I notice people saying this was like a homage to Taxi Driver and some other films as well. I haven’t noticed any correlations as I had ignored all the films being compared.

Help me understand your opinion, please?
Ginger Rogers - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 01:27:36 EST E5p0/xCR No.411901 Reply
It's very similar to taxi driver+King of comedy and even has a De niro cameo (who stars in both those movies) to drive the point home. Watch those movies and make your opinion on the matter.
Will McAvoy - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:07:36 EST eP7ogOzA No.411925 Reply
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This is the worst fucking movie I've ever paid money for. I was embarrassed to be sitting in a theater watching that shit.
James Quall - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:30:17 EST KtqH7hkL No.411926 Reply
you must have a small list of bad movies in your book then.
Kim Kelly - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 14:54:31 EST FbSpgLYf No.411931 Reply
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I only go to the theater once or twice a year. Most of the time I just pirate movies. The only other movie I've seen on the big screen that was genuinely terrible was Kingsman 2, and it definitely wasn't as bad as Joker. I paid 40 fucking dollars to watch that committee-designed tryhard heavy-handed burning garbage heap.

I can't believe people are comparing this jerk-off movie to The Dark Knight. It really goes to show how many retards walk among us, that so many people think Joaquin Phoenix is gonna win an Oscar for this turd. This movie was almost as painful as the Jumanji 2 trailer they showed before it started. Jesus fucking christ.
Ian McKellan - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:06:24 EST 9Oh2a4gN No.411932 Reply
>I paid 40 fucking dollars to watch that
This movie is the gift that keeps on giving
Tracy Jordan - Mon, 02 Dec 2019 15:09:05 EST uPfWKKgn No.411933 Reply
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nah it was very good. Especially for a superhero movie. More character focused and realistic than a bunch of mind numbing/dumbing action like all other comic movies.

I don't follow movie gossip but friend of mine mentioned rumors of a sequel.
Would be nice to see how they do it now that he has become... el Bromista.
Jee-woo Kim - Tue, 03 Dec 2019 21:44:58 EST VDnd2Aca No.411966 Reply
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yeah bro fuck low budget arthouse-style tributes to martin sorcese scorsese movies and bring on the trough of uninspired pig gruel
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 05:18:30 EST 2QAzq0Ao No.411985 Reply
Coulda just watched it for $5 on a Tuesday like I did or watched it for free online my dude. Also Joaquin Phoenix carried that film and his performance is definitely going to be recognized.
Stimpson J. Cat - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 21:26:18 EST K+JAA4tm No.412022 Reply
>I can't believe people are comparing this jerk-off movie to The Dark Knight.
Yeah, it was better than the Dark Knight.
Halle Berry - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 10:05:26 EST FWkMaKle No.412044 Reply
I saw this movie and Jokester was ME
Sopie Aldred - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 12:37:13 EST av1lnDhc No.412057 Reply
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>a sociopath who is angry because hes a loser who lives with his mom and laughs all the time (which makes him angrier).
Halle Berry - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 14:11:58 EST FWkMaKle No.412058 Reply

In what way does someone living with their parents make them a loser? Is this what you tell yourself to find your life meaningful? Have fun paying thousands a year on a neat living space and still not getting any cooter for it
Michael Myers - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:02:27 EST ry8gr8ks No.412098 Reply

Why don't you go crawl back up your mom's ass and cook a little while longer
Tom Haverford - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:08:41 EST MBYaOFE+ No.412099 Reply

>Jumanji 2

Y'know, not all movies have to be for you. I'm sure the Rock and everyone else had a lot of fun making it.
Michael Myers - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:13:13 EST ry8gr8ks No.412101 Reply

How do you know that? Were you there? It's possible no one had any fun making the movie, wouldn't you feel silly then, or would you just perish the thought and not talk about it as a way to rationalize your error
Tom Haverford - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:23:01 EST MBYaOFE+ No.412103 Reply

I was a medic on set when they shit in Hawaii. Films starring the Rock are usually fun to work on.
Werner Herzog - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 12:23:04 EST GIp3klfu No.412140 Reply

Wow, you're still on that? Fucking loser. Maybe if you keep it up someday they'll make a movie about you
Polly - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:41:11 EST EHbBEZVq No.412146 Reply
>I also really didn't like the disrespectful version of Thomas Wayne as a callous, out-of-touch fatcat politician/businessman dickhead archetype
That's the most realistic part of the movie, tho.

Watching him get got was extremely satisfying.
Joffrey Baratheon - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:44:20 EST VQS/vmgN No.412148 Reply
to me it just resembled Gotham’s portrayal on the hulu//netflix show of bruce finding his dad was involved with or hated by a lot of shady powerful people
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:58:51 EST XxBnysNR No.412166 Reply
Gotham was on Fox but I get what you mean. The portrayal of Thomas Wayne has for the most part been that he's a rich and powerful corporate magnate of Wayne Enterprises but it doesn't really surprise me if he's a billionaire who became mayor like Michael Bloomberg.
Randy Marsh - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 20:42:05 EST YzmdH4xc No.412174 Reply

That was one thing I really liked that I think speaks to the movies politics, that they could have made Thomas Wayne a boisterous right wing pseudo fascist Trump figure but instead he was portrayed as that sort of Bloomberg psychotic neoliberal "I am better than you and know whats good for you more than you do" sort of billionaire politician. I think it makes a much clearer contrast with the leftist elements of the film.
Patrick Stewart - Wed, 11 Dec 2019 10:55:46 EST oa2mmJAW No.412185 Reply
I thought it was really good. Best film I've seen in a while.
Grace Kelly - Thu, 12 Dec 2019 05:46:47 EST oa2mmJAW No.412206 Reply
Taxi Driver is probably better but I thought this was nicely zeitgeisty.
The article linked above about it erasing black people or whatever isn't wrong either.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 05:13:43 EST 2QAzq0Ao No.413497 Reply
Well Joaquin Phoenix won best actor, which is no surprise.
Sam Winchester - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 12:41:09 EST b6CE0L2v No.413502 Reply
his speech was on point, showed actual mental instability and a slight distaste of modern humanity and our ways. Good shit, touching and truly genuine. Jared Leto must really envy him and Ledger’s Joker oscars.
Richard Dunn - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:08:47 EST GQKu6Sa7 No.413503 Reply
this movie was pretty fucking gay and wakeen debased himself by doing it
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Robert Pattinson - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 14:06:06 EST x7Mc3Mwx No.413504 Reply
I think Joaquin deserved an Oscar but the idea that it was for the Joker makes me laugh maniacally. Hope he he gets more accolades in the future to surpass this.
Dutch - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 17:04:12 EST IBJAbzvX No.413505 Reply
How did Reese Witherspoon win for I Walk The Line but not him? Total joke.
Rachael - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 19:37:18 EST GQKu6Sa7 No.413506 Reply
yeah I really like wakeen. The Master is a strange, maybe flawed movie that is elevated far above its flaws because of the sincerity of its ensemble (wakeen most of all) and striving of PTA. thats what strikes me most of all about him. Basically he's great, but joker is a huge disappointment and the cultural fanfare about it is the real joke
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Ninja Ninja - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 22:59:27 EST R9ngH5az No.413508 Reply
hey man, fuck you.

I relate all too much with the character, almost every single scene tbh. Every aspect of that film really does pinpoint mental health issues in America. Even the dancing and joyousness given from acts of violence, the whole “My life is nothing but a comedy” rant and “Dont Smile!” thing. Music is all some of us have left alongside Yoga and spirituality and the movements he does even related to that. I really do see that movie as a frighteningly accurate portrayal of it all. Even the black girlfriend he imagined, all of it is too well done to not deserve the praise it gets. You not getting all that and just going in expecting entertainment is the joke.

Mind you, the murderous tendencies elicited were some of the first times a Rated R Joker character is actually able to scare people like the character is meant to. Ledger’s got nerfed for the PG-13 rating as have others, and for once you can actually feel some fear when taking in the Joker. Fuck all mang, dat shit dope.
Howard Stern - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 01:23:24 EST q75Gxmzi No.413511 Reply
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Joaquin Phoenix is an outstanding actor, but even with the explicit on-screen violence, pimp Joaqoker was one of the least frightening renditions of the Joker since Cesar fucking Romero. Ledger played the character with a hundred times more charisma and malevolence, despite never needing to show him covered in gore to spell out how scary he was supposed to be.

Phoenix decided to play Fleck as a pathetic, whiny, self-pitying loser (which probably explains why so many other losers with no self-awareness are identifying with it) to set up the narrative arc of an origin story that the Joker never needed, and that never goes anywhere. Fleck's character starts as a a pathetic, whiny, self-pitying loser and ends as a pathetic, whiny, self-pitying loser who also happened to kill a few unarmed drunks, a bedridden old woman, and a couple of unsuspecting bullies along the way. He never does anything you'd expect from the Joker, even accounting for being a "young" (45 year old!) inexperienced Joker.

He never develops any elaborate criminal schemes, displays an aptitude for strategy or tactics, manages to outwit his enemies, or intimidates anyone besides the dwarf. He's just an awkward, mentally ill schmuck with no agency that accidentally stumbles into killing some jerks with a gun someone else gave him, accidentally discovers his past based on a clue literally left right in front off him, and accidentally goes viral and gets invited onto national television to throw a cringe-filled tantrum, and go Columbine on the personification of his daddy issues.

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Rachael - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 07:00:50 EST GQKu6Sa7 No.413524 Reply
yeah, like I'm not gonna let it, on its own, ruin the movie for me, and it's not the main reason i don't like it and think it fails, but killing drunk "wallstreet" finance bros, as if they're the real threat. the unavoidable undercurrent, that you're more likely to get mugged by a PoC, was so thick in the air one wonders if they were wanting to imply it.
The least they could have done was to make one or two of the finance bros visibly jewish looking, like Seth Rogan facial features, if they wanted to go down that route, but they didn't do that either. Knowing the writer/director is himself Jewish makes it that much worse. THe fucking gall of that, the inauthenticity of it, the trite wokeness of it. Jesus christ i'm getting disappointd again just thinking about it.

and yeah, you're being brutal, i think there's space to show weakness and it doesn't make it 'pathetic and whiny', but there was something let's just say crybaby about this character. emphasize vogue depression, identify as a beta male proudly.. again this stuff strikes me as something *jewish*, like Judd Apatow characters or Woody Allen. even Zach Braff. I remember the appeal of this stuff in my early 20s and looking back it striks me as incredibly harmful and negative. The Joker is, to me, in that same Jewish tradition and, as you can see from that other guy's post, having the same effects on viewers
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Ninja Ninja - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 15:32:43 EST R9ngH5az No.413531 Reply
Whiny homeless self-pitying joker unable to stand up for himself is one thing, sure, but it makes you actually WANT the real joker to show himself now. Don’t get worked by the writing aspects of it all and forget the goal is to leave people feeling a different level of support or mercy for the character, that way as you see the villain you have more than a typical criminal in your sights. Joker is not normal, and this film helps establish the road to his lack of normality. Maybe it’s just not for you, guys. Regardless, the film got all the praise it deserved.

Now, even one of my buddies felt the same as to not liking this uncool version of the joker, but again, it’s only meant to show glimpses of the more serious and badass versions, and the Joker in established canon was always meant to have endless versions of himself always creating more and more personalities.
James McCrimmon - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 07:34:00 EST vBkxR2rm No.413584 Reply
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Just watched the movie. It's Taxi Driver and King of Comedy with the Joker shoved in to make a billion at the box office. You have to watch nothing but comic book movies to be able to take it seriously. Why is this celebrated?
Robo-buddy J5 - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 07:39:40 EST SPTmCTuL No.413585 Reply
If you've never been in the ocean then of course a pool's going to seem deep
James McCrimmon - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 07:55:40 EST vBkxR2rm No.413586 Reply
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>complaining about the movie not being racist enough

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