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- Sat, 04 Jul 2020 04:22:51 EST rv2ZtK4Y No.415719
File: 1593850971797.jpg -(95771B / 93.53KB, 660x328) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. NO I will NOT suspend my disbelief
I will NOT believe that a national broadcast relay doesn't require its security staff to carry an OSHA gun !

Everything else I will suspend my disbelief for, but for a national broadcast relay to not be carrying an OSHA gun is way too FUCKING BABYISH
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Robb Stark - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 08:57:46 EST +ujpbt55 No.415723 Reply
it's a movie set in a fictional universe where ostensibly something like OSHA doesn't even exist.

why you haff to be mad?
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Cobra Commander - Sat, 04 Jul 2020 22:20:18 EST mcNT7aem No.415726 Reply
>>415719

Wasn't this movie set in like the 70s or something, they didn't care back then.

You could smoke infront of a baby and twirl a loaded shotgun on your finger back then.
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Logan 5 - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 00:58:05 EST K+JAA4tm No.415728 Reply
>>415719
If this bothers you so much just consider it evidence for the theory that he was hallucinating.
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Anya Jenkins - Sun, 05 Jul 2020 06:12:53 EST 0e6qypaO No.415729 Reply
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>>415723
>something like OSHA doesn't even exist.
Like half of Batman's enemies wouldn't exist if industrial equipment had basic safety mechanisms such as handrails and emergency shutoffs.
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Smash Lampjaw - Mon, 06 Jul 2020 05:50:53 EST icfqDrDk No.415736 Reply
>>415729
Half of Batman's enemies wouldn't exist without Batman. He's a billionaire capefag pretending to save the world but not actually doing anything but playing super expensive LARP. He doesn't even kill people lol. He's a greedy bitch who doesn't want the world to change as that would imply him losing his inheretance. Fuck batman
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Malory Archer - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:43:53 EST komnFDyU No.415746 Reply
>>415729
>>415736

I always thought it was pretty funny in Batman Begins when Thomas Wayne is telling Bruce about how Wayne Enterprises is funding public transportation and schools and hospitals and how this would help Gotham, and then when Bruce is an adult the lesson he takes away from that is "spend a bunch of my companies money to beat the shit out of people with my ninja skills".

Nolan is of course a high conservative Tory which explains alot of the weirder political stuff in those movies, like why he turned Bane into a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary.
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Billy Madison - Tue, 07 Jul 2020 17:59:44 EST PIW4dOh3 No.415748 Reply
>>415746

But that's not what happens in the films. Bruces appropiates a bunch of tech that was never going to see the light of day anyways, and the rest of the stuff he buys out of his own money.
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Tobias Fünke - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 04:26:00 EST 0e6qypaO No.415749 Reply
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>>415748
>the rest of the stuff he buys out of his own money.
Money that isn't going to the workers or something more socially useful than a billionaire's hobby of beating up poor people.

Most of of the villains who aren't doing crime just to fuck with Batman are responding to conditions created by the fact that people like Bruce Wayne have all of the power.
Mr Freeze is literally just trying to cover his wife's medical treatment, Poison Ivy and Ra's al Ghul are responding to the destruction of nature in pursuit of Bruce Wayne's wealth, how many of them have backstories of childhood trauma brought on by parents responding to the grinding poverty of Gotham that is self-treated by themed villainy?

For that matter, every single henchman is an indictment of people like Bruce Wayne.
No one decides "Yeah, my work in the in the acid vat and unsafe machinery factory is really fulfilling, the pay is great and I'm on track to send my daughter to a good college debt free, but that fella in the clown costume, you know, the one who keeps murdering random people on TV? He's got an ad in the paper offering twenty bucks to help him abduct some hostages."
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Gunter - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:27:27 EST zbhsCxwO No.415752 Reply
>>415749
Bruce Wayne started being Batman to solve problems that can't be solved by throwing money at it.

He could probably be more effective at solving many problems by being a politician but that wouldn't be a very fun story. I personally don't read comics because I want to see someone solving socioeconomic problems in a fictional setting.
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Bialar Crais - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:08:59 EST z+yLYIAG No.415753 Reply
>>415752
This. We are still talking about the Nolan movies, right? Because in those movies Gotham is literally being run by criminals, no amount of charity or social programs were going to solve that issue. Plus getting involved in the politics of Gotham would only have gotten him killed, it is a plot point in TDK that Dent was able to go as far as he did only because Bruce managed to weaken the criminal's grip on the city.
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Sean McNamara - Wed, 08 Jul 2020 09:51:35 EST K+JAA4tm No.415754 Reply
>>415753
>We are still talking about the Nolan movies, right? Because in those movies Gotham is literally being run by criminals
And yet he spends basically no time beating up politicians, businessmen or cops.

Instead the focus is on beating up some random ninja foreigner who showed up last week, a random homeless clown who showed up last week, a Marxist bodybuilder who showed up last week, a lawyer with PTSD and a psychiatrist. None of this has to do with the prevailing socioeconomic system and the people who run it.

Just admit that the dumb comic book premise makes no sense, trying to rationalize it like this only makes it sound even more ridiculous.
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Ryan Atwood - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 07:57:28 EST rK26ZYsO No.415769 Reply
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>>415749
> something more socially useful than a billionaire's hobby of beating up poor people.
lmao

>>415752
> I personally don't read comics because I want to see someone solving socioeconomic problems in a fictional setting.
you both sound like a real bunch of well adjusted ad alts, Iool
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Theon Greyjoy - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:26:00 EST Gjlk7IUF No.415846 Reply
>>415746
>Nolan is of course a high conservative Tory which explains alot of the weirder political stuff in those movies, like why he turned Bane into a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary.

At the same time that his little brother makes a TV-show about intelligent tools rebelling against capitalists and freeing the common folk from oppression?
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Sister Mary Eunice - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 01:19:21 EST 0e6qypaO No.415875 Reply
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>>415754
>Just admit that the dumb comic book premise makes no sense
It's been 20 years, but IIRC the animated series Batman Beyond somewhat to avoids it by making most of villains they introduce or re-wrote to be the rich old dudes who really run the city or somewhat sympathetic people with super powers trying to get revenge/power at any cost.
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M. Night Shyamalan - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 07:48:35 EST Ci7streK No.415877 Reply
I thought the movie was pretty bad

Like how he was just schizzing out about the bitch; Joker is always a cold, calculated villian that's steps above Batman. How the fuck would he accomplish that if he's so nuts he can't keep his week together?
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Gizmo - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:39:35 EST FEhF2ii5 No.415878 Reply
>>415875
On the other hand, the moment Terry dons the batsuit, all sort of superpowered weirdos appear crawling out of the woodwork. Before that, Gotham's problems were a corrupt businessman and a bunch of disfranchised kids who idolzed the Joker.
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Raven Darkhölme - Sun, 26 Jul 2020 14:47:41 EST wmqmqeBi No.415945 Reply
>>415877
My take was that Arthur Fleck wasn't actually THE Joker. I think that the guys he shot on the train was end of his real-world activities and everything else was delusional fantasy. But of course the news headline "Man In Clown Drag Kills 3 Assholes On Train" caught a lot of attention by all of the disaffected youth of Gotham, spawning countless copycats. This is something that Fleck might have seen on TV in Arkham, which fueled his delusions. Then, if you want to take it further, some OTHER nutso, who is way more rational psychopath than paranoid schizophrenic, adopts the Joker persona and takes off after Batbruce.

FWIW, I hate DC
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Dutch - Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:50:49 EST vO7SoUGE No.415947 Reply
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>>415754
Year One is pretty much exclusively about beating crooked politicians, businessmen, and cops.
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John Kramer - Sun, 26 Jul 2020 18:00:22 EST 1OKga3ft No.415948 Reply
>>415947

Year One was a good read. The animated movie was good as well. I really wish they'd adapt Long Halloween.
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Monica Geller - Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:03:39 EST WHszcoUn No.415962 Reply
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>>415945
> Spawning countless Copycats
> Arthur Fleck wasn't actually THE Joker
well they used the actual Mask Props from The Dark Knight's opening scene as the masks everyone inspired by Fleck in the movie had on around town.

Many theorized Ledger's Joker was one inspired by Fleck here, and that The Dark Knight's timeline as the future would make sense considering Young Brucey appearing in this film. Once more, this affirms Batman was initially created(the death of his parents being a murder) setoff by the original Joker's own chain of events.

Joker MADE the Batman, and then, eventually, someone carried out the feud for him.


Unless, of course, we're to believe Ledger's Joker is the same escaped nutcase having erased all his own records, similar to how his mother kept her a secret from Him.
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John Redcorn - Tue, 28 Jul 2020 04:30:37 EST vO7SoUGE No.415963 Reply
>>415948
After how badly they fucked up Killing Joke and Hush, I think they're better off taking a break. It feels like ages since a good Batman animation like Year One or Dark Knight Returns.
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Susan Foreman - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:52:49 EST u+SQmS1M No.415967 Reply
>>415963
They recently announced Death in the Family as the next one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DpmjfHzRFg

It's going to be an interactive movie kind of thing with some different paths. So apparently you can choose whether robin dies or not, just like in the comic back in the day lmao.

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