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#Australianlivesmtter by Lydia Senkinwater - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 08:59:09 EST ID:iTeksKaa No.160049 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the actual fuck USA?

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Eliza Sangerfetch - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:49:45 EST ID:y9qOEaL3 No.160145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You stallions need to start shooting back.

In socialist sweden we may not have gun culture or easily accessible guns/ammo but at least our cops aren't LARPing like Judge Dredd or John Rambo on a behind the lines mission in vietnam.

Shooting Cops
Edward Greenwell - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 21:57:11 EST ID:E5xYjU/D No.160146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>cop is a Somali-American

Look at me...

I am the state sanctioned murderer now.
Jarvis Crepperhick - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 17:40:50 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fanny Crondlewitch - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:56:51 EST ID:zs2hQMxM No.160247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cedric Bablingchatch - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:44:10 EST ID:hcyznrqG No.160248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?

Trump upset Sessions won't break the law for him. by Esther Chishdale - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:24:01 EST ID:aH24pX5g No.160114 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Fucking hilarious how Trump keeps expecting people to throw their ass on the fires he keeps starting, and its fucking blown away when they don't.
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Eugene Nabblepot - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:05:51 EST ID:cm4LvD/b No.160240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's with the irrational hate-boner the Trump Cult has for CNN specifically? Seriously, it's kinda pathetic.
Eliza Finkinway - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:53:14 EST ID:CgCM1jv+ No.160241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Their infosphere relies on sources which publish absolute bullshit.
CNN is popular and reputable (compared to breitbart), so it's an easier target than NPR/BBC/CBC/AlJazeera/DerSpegle.

Pointing out errors published by reputable news sources legitimizes their sources by putting them on the same level.

It also makes it harder to call out the alt-right's bullshit as CNN not carrying their story about Russia stopping black, jewish antifascists from sneaking terrorists into christian churches to commit voter fraud becomes weaker evidence it's bullshit.
Jack Duzzlehere - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:14:50 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It seems like it is just Trump, being Trump.
The guy can take the smallest thing and will go nuts over it.

He did that with CNN for whatever reason, and the WSJ. The irony is that both of those outlets have been forced to be more responsible outlets since Trump did this. They give him no leeway. Pretty interesting to watch.
Cedric Goodgold - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:44:04 EST ID:WFhKRqSz No.160244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>cnn says bad thing about trump
>trump says cnn is bad because of this
>trumpettes also say cnn is bad because trump said so
it really is just that simple.
Rebecca Fangold - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 00:03:49 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sadly, this is 100% correct.

The feedback loop for Trumpkins is simple.

If Trump likes it, it is good.
If Trump hates it, it is bad.

Literally that fucking simple.

SHOCKING: World Hates Trump, US Favorability Sinks by Sidney Pimmlewell - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:54:50 EST ID:BHryc0h3 No.159634 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Unsurprisingly, the world over hates Trump.


And also unsurprisingly, the world hates the US more for its president.

I never understood the people who were like, "Nobody respects the US anymore because of Obama!!" All research points to an increase in US approval under Obama compared to Bush. And now the reverse is happening under Trump. We're losing respect because of this presidency.

Oh well, at least Russia likes us now

Also interestingly, the only other country who likes us more is Israel, thanks to Donnie's emphatic support of DER JUDEN. I'm sure the alt-right are loving that.
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Hannah Cliggleridge - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 05:57:57 EST ID:Z5fH3aO5 No.160235 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fucking thank you. I thought I was the only one who noticed that Trump's Administration pretty much shits all over the place and continues to blame Obama and Hillary the entire fucking time. LONG after Obama and Hillary are currently no longer really all that relevent.

Trump et al keep painting a picture of Obama and Hillary as moustache-twirling villains snooping about the place putting cherry bombs in Trump's toilet, putting sugar in his gas tank, putting his hand in a bowl of warm water at night, and fucking things up in general.

It's laughable. Trump is still somehow in campaign mode and is super fucking competitive and defensive about everything and throwing blame everywhere. He doesn't realize that he and the GOP won and have all the goddamned power. And all the shit that's been happening is on them entirely. It's denial.
Hedda Sonderfield - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 13:15:19 EST ID:pZ1b+sgd No.160236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Trump is still somehow in campaign mode
It's so he can legally raise funds. He can't raise money unless he's actually running for office. That's why he officially announced his candidacy for 2020 like 2 days after he was sworn in. As of mid Feb, he's already raised $7 Million.
Jack Duzzlehere - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:30:52 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep. The era of perpetual campaigning has dawned.

Did you see that shit at the Boyscouts Jamboree? Holy fuck...45 minutes of rambling from your drunken, lecherous uncle. The kind who tries to buy you a whore to "make you a man," the second you turn 12.
Rebecca Honeylock - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 07:46:27 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.160239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought this was a pretty amusing summary

Jack Duzzlehere - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:51:27 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Obviously fake news. Every Trump speech surpasses the next in excllentism and biglyness!

God-emperor Drumpf claims he has the "power to pardon"... by Fucking Serringshit - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 00:14:01 EST ID:JBl4ISNu No.160197 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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...and get's immediately btfo by legal experts. Looks like President Fart is on his way out!

"Some legal experts say no, citing an opinion issued by the Justice Department days before Richard Nixon's resignation that he could not pardon himself "under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case".

"A self-pardon might well be outrageously improper... but the response the Constitution creates for such misconduct is impeachment, a political rather than criminal remedy," Mark Tushnet, a law professor at Harvard University told Vox.

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Nathaniel Blagglenudging - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:27:03 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What amazes me is how easily they gave their whole party to Trump. They folded faster that Trump University....
Martha Ninderfoot - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:43:39 EST ID:a+I//Kqg No.160229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is this a good idea for the GOP though?
Cedric Gickleson - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:18:51 EST ID:3X/Zgz1t No.160230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It isn't. They thought they were gonna get Hillary, but Trump got in instead. They were geared for obstruction and now that they have the power, they're in the hot seat. Any legislation that passes has THEIR rubber stamp on it. THEY own it. So if it's unpopular and backfires, they take all the blame. It could mean they lose seats in the next election and quite possibly spell the end of the GOP.
Jack Duzzlehere - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 23:21:36 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Naw, the Dems have such a weak game now, that the GOP is assured 20-40 year dominance at this point. Especially when you throw in gerrymandering and voter suppression laws.

Literally they are only winning because the other guy is so inept.
Cedric Goodgold - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:08:56 EST ID:WFhKRqSz No.160245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol this too is something the dems were saying about the GOP until trump's election.

We Have Always Been At War With Kekistan! by Nathaniel Blagglenudging - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:56:28 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160224 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, one thing Trump has is devout followers.
He also has no ability to keep a lid on his high crimes and misdemeanors.

Let us suppose that Trump is, in some way, finally removed from office. In some manner that is controversial.

Would his supporters rise up to restore him to power?

Legit question here. Let us just assume some vague situation where Trump is claiming he was removed illegally, and the other side saying it was legit and legal.

Do his followers have the fortitude to go to the mat for him. To take to the streets in violent protest, or will they just grumble on the Internet?

For the life of me, I have no idea.

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Nathaniel Blagglenudging - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:34:20 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160227 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Forgot my link!
Shit...bad post. I suck.
Doris Suzzlefedge - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:19:43 EST ID:xdmTIq9E No.160231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No worries, I totally fucked up my own post on /pol/. Let's trade places and it'll be our little secret
Hamilton Dumbleway - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:48:15 EST ID:1iOkmONh No.160232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Considering a fifth of America believed and continues to believe that Obama was born outside the US, and (this is conjecture) many of those are strong Trump supporters, I doubt there'd be much in the way of protests, let alone violent ones.
Phyllis Bibberville - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:01:29 EST ID:aH24pX5g No.160233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Given that he came in third in a two person race, I really think his supporter numbers are greatly inflated.
Wesley Drammerham - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:25:00 EST ID:aUBwpL4e No.160234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this. there's also the fact that they're mostly poor and have no power themselves (the very reason why they love trump in the first place - he has everything they don't and thinks he can/will give it to them).

the rich ain't comin' to trump's defense in that case either. it's not like whoever the next president is won't be easy to take advantage of too.

Bipartisan Bill To Make Boycotting Israel A Felony by Phyllis Pammerforth - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:05:05 EST ID:mIHuuhk5 No.160126 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The Israel lobby has taken off its gloves. No longer dancing around the pesky problem of Constitutionally protected free speech, they will soon make it literally illegal for private citizens to participate in or support any boycott of Israeli businesses, with ridiculous punishments for doing so. Congressmen across the spectrum, from the anti-authoritarian liberal "#Resistence" to freedom-loving America-first conservatives, have dutifully fallen in line in bipartisan support for restricting your rights to free expression and free association. When questioned about the anti-Constitutionality of the bill, most Congressmen admit that they didn't even read the AIPAC-sponsored bill before reflexively supporting it:

>But now, a group of 43 senators — 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats — wants to implement a law that would make it a felony for Americans to support the international boycott against Israel, which was launched in protest of that country’s decades-old occupation of Palestine. The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.
>A similar measure was introduced in the House on the same date by two Republicans and one Democrat. It has already amassed 234 co-sponsors: 63 Democrats and 174 Republicans. As in the Senate, AIPAC has assembled an impressive ideological diversity among supporters, predictably including many of the most right-wing House members — Jason Chaffetz, Liz Cheney, Peter King — along with the second-ranking Democrat in the House, Steny Hoyer.
>Thus far, not a single member of Congress has joined the ACLU in denouncing this bill.

Can anything be done?
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Fanny Blizzleman - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 07:40:58 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160203 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>hurr durr im rubber youre glue
User was banned for this post
User was banned by: Spunky
Reason: You as well. Stop that shit.
Nicholas Fimmertine - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 08:31:26 EST ID:mM9fZu54 No.160204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>no argument
Phineas Gittingwill - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 20:35:22 EST ID:CMPvtCHX No.160209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ITT btw
Legit thread gets derailed by the idea that all Jews (easily defined btw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_is_a_Jew%3F) has a mutually consistent agenda. Also both extremes in this type of argument tend to argue that whatever the current Israeli administration does is representative (often including the administration).

Do this shit properly. Discuss the fact that the lobby of a country beginning with "I" is trying to demand special treatment in your laws while giving nothing in return. It's not like it's uncommon either historically or geographically; I'm just saying.
Nathaniel Blagglenudging - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:35:58 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Unsurprisingly, I have found Jews to be as divided on these issues as any other group of Americans.

It's like they are people with their own beliefs and opinions.
Martha Ninderfoot - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:23:52 EST ID:a+I//Kqg No.160228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The average Swedish Jew would probably need to google a bunch to understand this thread (and hardly because of the "language barrier").

Here we go again V 2.0 by Hannah Mubbledale - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 18:27:44 EST ID:N0GOwIpy No.158920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>A van mowed down pedestrians as it sped down London Bridge on Saturday night, leaving bodies lying in the roadway
>Mark Roberts said the van was traveling south across the River Thames at a high rate of speed and was swerving as it struck several people, knocking one person "about 20 feet into the air."
>Roberts said he heard what sounded like gunshots about 10 minutes later.
>young brit described live one of the suspects getting taken out by police and laughed his ass off
>pic related

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Jarvis Drenkinkock - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:19:06 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.160212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That other book with the stoner hippy telling mothers to abandon their children was so much better.
Phoebe Dromblenag - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:31:30 EST ID:Zi/ZMs1f No.160213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The incident, which occurred in Schaffhausen near the German border, was not a terror attack, police told ABC News.

I'm sorry my policeman but a motherfucker attacking people on the run with a chainsaw is the very fucking definition of terror.
Jarvis Drenkinkock - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:19:57 EST ID:tlilhxRg No.160215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some guy got mad at his insurance company.
Phoebe Turveywater - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:48:50 EST ID:a+I//Kqg No.160218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Terror sure but I don't think it counts as terrorism unless it's political (which is admittedly a very broad definition).
Phoebe Dromblenag - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:57:09 EST ID:Zi/ZMs1f No.160219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't blame him. I'd expect more from Allstate

USA stops aiding ISIS in Syria. by Eliza Sangerfetch - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:29:56 EST ID:y9qOEaL3 No.160143 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Trump Ends Covert Aid to Syrian Rebels Trying to Topple Assad
The decision came more than a month ago, the officials said, by which time the effort to deliver the arms had slowed to a trickle.

It was never publicly announced, just as the beginnings of the program four years ago were officially a secret, authorized by President Barack Obama through a “finding” that permitted the C.I.A. to conduct a deniable program. News of the troublesome program soon leaked out.

Mr. Trump’s decision was first reported by The Washington Post. But it was foreshadowed as early as April, when the Trump administration said that ousting Mr. Assad, whose government has fought a civil war that has taken roughly half a million lives, was no longer a priority. Instead, the United States and Russia have been discussing cease-fire zones in the country, the first of which went into effect this month.

Trump 'ends programme to arm anti-Assad rebels' in move sought by Russia

More good news!
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Ebenezer Dummerworth - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 19:22:36 EST ID:+hP45SMQ No.160188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a video link in the thread hillary, give up, you lost, people know.
Samuel Fobbledore - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:10:17 EST ID:CgCM1jv+ No.160189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The entire speech was about what we were doing to fight ISIS.
In the context of the video, it's immediately clear that he misspoke.

"We are training ISIL forces in anbar... they will be a new force against ISIL" makes no sense unless he misspoke.
Rebecca Blenderstork - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:20:44 EST ID:1fIHantD No.160190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Go back you whatever hole you crawled out of.
Frederick Turveyham - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 05:55:07 EST ID:+hP45SMQ No.160201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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freudian slip, more like. Whatever, the info is out well documented look it up, in 15 years when it's made public to the average moron you'll remember this.
Those other "rebels" were just front orgs for ISIS and co, perhaps 1-2 were legit but they just got taken over by ISIS.

Look at wikileaks, factor in the US modern past, reports of ISIS soliders treated in hospitals in Israel, even meeting between Israelis and ISIS fighters at golan heights on and on. Israeli generals saying they like the conflict in syria and want to prolong it since it helps Israel... Look up ISIS toyota truck army.
Frederick Turveyham - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 06:05:04 EST ID:+hP45SMQ No.160202 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Spicy Man Says Goodbye by Rebecca Duckford - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:49:56 EST ID:O2Qsizj8 No.160155 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Reuben Murdshaw - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:54:58 EST ID:mzeFKsf/ No.160156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's good, he was kind of a dork, they need someone less whiny and spergy
Charles Bregglelock - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:59:19 EST ID:swJkxz4K No.160157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This was bound to happen. That man was grilled every conference and he was even hiding behind bushes to avoid interviews.

I nominate Kelly Ann Conway being next. That bitch knows how to dodge dem questions though.
Martha Boblingville - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 20:54:48 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
he sucked and everybody knew it, even him. sarah huckabee (who looks exactly like her father lmao) is doing fine. still not a lot of straight answers but now the press briefings arent such a cringefest.
Barnaby Sinderstick - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 22:48:09 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The bushes...Oh lord...that was pretty hilarious.
I mean, no matter what, he gave us a good laugh.

American experiences the real North Korea by Simon Fiblingwater - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:35:42 EST ID:h3LG8SPY No.159285 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Wesley Bovinghet - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:31:14 EST ID:mvx5AAOh No.160101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>If it was just rotten fish then anyone could do it

Takes a braveman to sit around for fish to rot and canned them.
Eliza Fottingkadging - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:00:08 EST ID:Gv+87djI No.160102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not rotten. It's fermented. Plain rotten fish is actually much less pungent. It honestly smells a fair bit worse than just rotten fish.
Wesley Bovinghet - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:55:22 EST ID:mvx5AAOh No.160106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you read the thread, we are talking about knockoff surströmming
Eliza Fottingkadging - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:14:06 EST ID:Gv+87djI No.160107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah; my apologies. I thought you were denigrating my cultural heritage by assuming it's stink was as tame as mere decomposing sea-life.
Henry Dabbermit - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:13:48 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder if anyone has ever complained that their surstromming was "too fresh."

G20 by Betsy Sillyfone - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 14:50:20 EST ID:EpV6Hx/N No.159887 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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No g20 thread?
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Edwin Greencocke - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 00:14:25 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160095 Ignore Report Quick Reply

won what?

seems we still have our properties and free trade and self-responsibility. if they call that a victory well i guess we should all be happy.
Angus Hizzlewill - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:16:54 EST ID:tzE2H4F+ No.160096 Ignore Report Quick Reply

People who are greatly outnumbered, outmatched and arrogant can never win for long.
Edwin Greencocke - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:35:19 EST ID:BBx/FHRi No.160097 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>outnumbered, outmatched and arrogant

yep. thats commies alright.
Angus Hizzlewill - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 01:53:20 EST ID:tzE2H4F+ No.160098 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Not everyone who questions capitalism is into Marxist Leninism you linear thought based fuck. The communist party had this same problem and fell. You think youre immune to having to face the reality of nature? No rampant destruction of the earth and overuse will never have an impact on you or anyone related to you? Most people in the world have a significant amount of wealth? You sound very arrogant and if you live another 40 years youre probably in for a rude awakening.
Archie Gamblepun - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:29:08 EST ID:ggfacnun No.160103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By Darwinism I was referring to the "survival of the fittest" and "law of the jungle" mentality that wild animals generally adhere to. Most modern countries tend to eschew this Randian philosophy and make at least some token attempts to take care of the disadvantaged. In Sweden we have a refrain that "A society is judged by how it treats it's weakest members" (generally meaning the old, the very young, the poor, the sick, criminals, ect.)
We never had serfdom in Scandinavia but I see your point as to property rights but that is more of a philosophical discussion on the complete reorganization of society. It doesn't really apply to the Greek government borrowing a bunch of resources to fund otherwise undeliverable goodies while lying about it.
>Real progress would be concerned with your entire species and the earth that gives you life
In a utopian world this would be the common goal. Sadly short-term thinking and individual ambition is a hallmark of the human condition. This is why we so often see the real world equivalents of the tragedy of the commons. However a reasonably enlightened electorate can democratically incentivize its leaders towards this goal and, by holding them accountable, weed out much of the selfish desires than so often damn us.

So basically... by Cyril Fanderchick - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:30:52 EST ID:JBl4ISNu No.159987 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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...the only nations that best!Korea can hit are their own allies, third world island nations, the Japs, Tech-supportland, and a frozen waste. Somehow I feel slightly better for some reason.


This is like when a retarded kid finds the key to daddy's gun cabinet and brags to the cool kids about how they could "totally kill you, like, for real dude. don't mess with me."

Kinda pitiable in a way...
But not that pitiable. Dude's a megalomaniacal arsehole who's actions on the world stage fuck shit up for the people he supposedly leads...
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Cedric Nenningture - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:17:01 EST ID:11zj0ImD No.160067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Erdogan being behind the coup is a bit tinfoil. Turkey has a history of coups specifically against wannabe Islamic strongmen. Erdogan is just using it (or at most allowed it to happen) specifically because he is an aspiring Islamic strongman.
Trump might be a toddler but that aside the USA is heavily invested in the current nuclear paradigm (as is any current nuclear power) which is exactly why the Norks going nuclear is such an issue.
Cyril Worthingford - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:21:42 EST ID:lWlEy1EO No.160070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Erdogan being behind the coup is a bit tinfoil.

It's different this time though, first of all there is close to zero evidence of who exactly did it yet. Even if Erdogan didn't orchestrate it, it was awfully convenient for him that it happened. Thousands of people have been locked up so far, with plans underway to reinstate the death penalty.
It's really fucked up and most of the world is just kinda looking the other way because we don't care about a square full of people applauding their new dictator when we got our own stupid shit to deal with.

The Turks are a weird people anyway, very proud and nationalistic, but also very flexible in their loyalties.

nb offtopic rant
Sidney Crendlebuck - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:41:44 EST ID:RVqJIAXf No.160071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying that NK isn't also heavily invested in the current nuclear paradigm
Yeah, I'm sure Kim Jong-un just can't wait to upset the delicate balance of bullshit that allows his unremarkable ass to be King For Life. He just can't wait to give the US an excuse to invade/coup him so he can die with a rebel knife up his butt.

Remember, only America cares about self-preservation, everyone else is a craaaaaazy foreigner who is looking for any excuse to kamikaze their whole society which is why we need to be ready to blow it up for them. Be afraid, guys! Scary foreigners would rather senselessly blow up fat Americans than maintain their positions of power and prestige! It makes no sense but that's why you should be even afraiderer of these foreigners, guys! Be sooo afraid invest in Lockheed!!
Isabella Tootville - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:41:50 EST ID:2fJQ/aQA No.160073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is a valid point, but neglects that fact that in Kim 3.0's case, reality is....debatable. What Kim might see as an existential threat that requires a final blow, might be very different from what a normal human would see. He does live in a world where paranoia is everywhere.

Basically, we have to balance self-preservation against his crazy and see what we get.

Honestly, I think that our biggest concern would be that Kim starts to see his grip on power slipping, and decides that his only option to survive in any form is to start some shit and wait it out in a bunker. Or, maybe he would be up against the ropes and use a nuke strike on the US or SK to simply have a national "Columbine Moment."
Fucking Pingerford - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:47:03 EST ID:3E+uYiLw No.160077 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The Norks won't just fire off a nuke, just like that. The real problem is if neither side backs down (because they both have to prove how tough they are to their domestic and international audience) then you're gonna have a ladder of escalation that could lead to something nuclear down the road (possibly even including China, and then we would all be fucked).

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