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Riots and unrest in Honduras over fraudulent election by Jenny Bropperbure - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:54:53 EST ID:7ti2xIYK No.164379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The US media doesn't want to talk about it, but Honduras is in the midst of having its election stolen again and the people are pissed. Eight years after the US-funded coup installed a brutally violent puppet state in the impoverished Central American state, hopes that things could turn around are once again being dashed by American electoral interference:
>American ally and incumbent Juan Orlando Hernández was declared the winner Sunday, instantly prompting allegations of election fraud and international concern over the country’s democratic process. Honduras, already plagued with civil unrest in the weeks following the election, is now embroiled in violent protests in which more than 20 people have died.
>Supporters of Hernández’s opponent, Salvador Nasralla, are clearly discouraged by the election process and outcome, and are calling on Honduras to hold a new round of elections. Nasralla himself alleges election fraud, labeling Hernández an “impostor” and warning that Honduras is at risk of a civil war if the election is not redone. The Organization of American States, a prominent global organization, has also expressed concern over the election process and called for a new election.
Charles Bardshit - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:50:38 EST ID:CrzK7cKZ No.164823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honduras is on the verge of returning to the bloody terror of the 80s Cold War thanks to the US.
> Longtime observers of Central America will know that since the 1980s, nearly 5,000 officers from Honduras have been trained at the U.S. Army's Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, or WHINSEC, formerly known as the School of the Americas. Graduates of this school hold key positions in the Honduran government and security forces and have been implicated in numerous coups, human rights abuses and suppression of democracy.

>Today, the boogeyman of communism that haunted the region in the 1980s is gone, but the institutions and power centers set up in Honduras decades ago remain entrenched, and now environmental activists and indigenous rights leaders are targeted for threatening the political-economic status quo.

>"We know it's the U.S. that runs Honduras," and it is "co-responsible" for the human rights abuses and fatal shootings following the latest presidential election, says Nasralla — who could very well be the legitimate victor in the presidential election.

>By legitimizing a stolen election, ignoring the rare Organization of American States call for new elections and refusing to condemn the post-election crackdown by the (U.S.-trained) military, the U.S. is again perpetrating violence that ultimately hurts its own self-interest, but, more importantly, continues the oppression of Hondurans.
Samuel Murringstone - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:21:52 EST ID:u35xloTz No.164851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Maybe if right-wing Americans weren't so blithe about their country supporting shit like this, they wouldn't have so many scary hispanic immigrants to worry about.
Graham Sandlewell - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:17:47 EST ID:Nyq/4TP3 No.164852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well it is a shithole country after all (through no fault of the holy US of course wink wink)
Jack Buzzway - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:46:42 EST ID:gGNOCnaM No.164866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>bombs a country and funds right wing terror there

Wow! What a Sithole!!
Hedda Neppersirk - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 14:06:54 EST ID:xAmHx9MV No.164882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe if liberals stopped pretending their politicians aren't equally guilty of imperialism there would be real opposition.

But hey guys whattabout Iran and Venezuela
Phineas Blythewell - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 14:36:56 EST ID:u35xloTz No.164883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Maybe if liberals stopped pretending their politicians aren't equally guilty of imperialism there would be real opposition.
Good luck with that
Doris Haffingpuck - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:17:19 EST ID:g9f6VNZc No.165264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good resource for anyone interested in how real election rigging actually works:
>Honduras: The Never-ending Coup
Nell Bamblebock - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 08:26:38 EST ID:z3nxsaS0 No.165305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>that pic
The fact that she actually wants us to feel bad for her for ostensibly getting a taste of her own medicine is the most disgustingly hypocritical thing ever. What an awful fucking sociopath she is.
Betsy Shittinghood - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:58:14 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.165330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>the left is bad TOO!
i guess at least we don't see people even trying to support the right now, at least outright. it's always just these tepid whataboutisms these days. kinda glad trump sems to have had this effect on rightists.
Jenny Bennerpune - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 10:09:34 EST ID:0G4khkLx No.165331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Democrats aren't leftists. The only main difference between them and republicans is that they acknowledge brown and gay people have economic value.

For goodness sake, the dems' position on how to rebuild the middle class was that people should go back to school and learn how to code, not that housing and food is a human right or that anyone who puts in 40 hours a week deserves a living wage.
Martha Murdway - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 10:32:00 EST ID:3hSffPa+ No.165332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>thinks Clinton and Dem establishment are leftist
>thinks people who criticize Dem establishment for being too interventionist on foreign policy are centrists and rightists
How does one manage to fuck up this bad? Is this even real?
Betsy Shittinghood - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 15:42:29 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.165337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dems are still "left" by american political standards. certainly not by global tho, that much i'd agree with.

would it help if i replaced left/right with dems/repubs?

>implying either party has ever been anything but interventionist since the end of ww2
just throwing out a counter-whataboutism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just pointing out the omission based bias here.

but don't let that stop you from
ing. ;-)
Nell Gommlecocke - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:06:05 EST ID:kFmX3/Gj No.165338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And the Vichys were technically left of the Nazis, even though they were on the same axis.

I know at least one person let out a half sigh at that play on words, thanks, I'll be here all week because I have no life.
Polly Sonderlet - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:17:39 EST ID:ueW1raA3 No.165339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you don't to be seen as just stirring the partisan pot, you should probably drop the party labels, especially regarding issues like US interventionism in Central America in which the US as a whole has been guilty of since the turn of the 20th Century.

The Obama admin tried to use Honduras as a regional counterweight to Chavez' Venezuela. The Reagan admin used Honduras as a staging ground for the invasion of Nicaragua. Both did so with the help of a congress at least partly controlled by the opposition. Both parties were also complicit in the Banana Wars as well.

So yeah, it does come off as partisan politicking when you frame it as one party's doing or another, when in reality it's just an all around shitty American thing.
Augustus Bibberhood - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:48:04 EST ID:u35xloTz No.165341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>kinda glad trump sems to have had this effect on rightists.
Rightists aren't the ones who argue from a position of sympathy with the poor brown victims of American imperialism, you magnificent goofball.

I honestly can't tell if you were intending to use that image ironically or if you really just have no idea what words mean.
Hannah Goodstone - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:09:30 EST ID:ojjwPRrO No.165354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ironically. people these days who claim to be "centrist" seem to do so largely because they don't want to admit being right leaning/conservative/republican (eg they voted for trump, figured out they fucked up, but still dont want to admit they fucked up to their political opponents) so they can still be opposed to you but also claim a veneer of neutrality/unbiasedness. glad i could help.
Isabella Sumblespear - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:43:32 EST ID:ITzK8pm4 No.165355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So just to be clear, you still think that the people you chose to argue with are rightists pretending to be centrists.

The people quoting left wing news sources in support of left wingers in Central America. You think those people are secretly right wing. And they're pretending to be centrist by criticising Clinton. You think criticizing Clinton is a centrist move. Because you think Clinton is left wing. And anyone who criticizes her is centrist. But also secretly rightist. Because you think centrists and rightists are critical of US foreign policy. Unlike leftists, who support regime change. Leftists like Clinton.

These are the things you actually believe.
Cornelius Duckhall - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:53:19 EST ID:Fy8uKCKL No.165357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What link? The only anti hillary thing here I see is the image, and it's one guy.
Isabella Sumblespear - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:07:27 EST ID:ITzK8pm4 No.165358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't say "link". But if you insist, the very first link posted in this discusses Clinton's role in this. So whatever point you're trying to make, it seems to be based on a few fundamental misreadings of reality.

Is something wrong with your brain? Nb
Cornelius Duckhall - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:34:53 EST ID:Fy8uKCKL No.165361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>ctrl+f: clinton
>ctrl+f: hillary
>only you
>aside from that image
that guy was the only person to bring it up directly. maybe you're not in the best position to argue about brain problems.
Matilda Mibberbet - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:37:08 EST ID:g1L/HLFE No.165362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Nearly 200 demonstrators, including members of religious groups, protested U.S. support for the re-election of right-wing Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez in front of the U.S. embassy in Tegucigalpa, Honduras, on Sunday evening.

>The peaceful protesters held candles, chanted slogans and sang protest music.

>"We came to the United States Embassy to spark lights in the midst of the darkness of a dictatorship that has the immediate and permanent protection of the United States," said Ismael Moreno, a Jesuit leader.
Graham Grimwater - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:38:01 EST ID:gbYuNd4K No.165363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure I'd call a may may a "news source"...
Hugh Mullyhot - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:49:52 EST ID:UYXIXU7j No.165364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So when you said that was "The only anti hillary thing here I see", what you meant by that was "I don't read OP news links and only ctrl-f threads when I get into arguments online".

That kind of sounds like your own personal problem. Also, I still can't tell what your point is supposed to be.

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