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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated April 10)
Trump trip shows US hypocrisy on human rights Ignore Report Reply
Beatrice Cleddleshit - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 22:49:17 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174821
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Trump trip shows US hypocrisy on human rights

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/19/opinions/trump-trip-abroad-human-rights-tasini-opinion/index.html
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Ernest Funnershit - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 22:56:44 EST ID:9nLjnqzA No.174822 Ignore Report Reply
>>174821
>https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/19/opinions/
>opinions

Opinion pieces aren't news.
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Beatrice Cleddleshit - Sat, 13 Apr 2019 23:09:47 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174823 Ignore Report Reply
If Obamacare has not been repealed, the trade deficit is rising, the debt is increasing, the US is still at war, the Bill of Rights has not been restored, there is no wall, and Assange is in jail, but Clinton isn't, is Trump any different from Obama?

WTF?

3D chess, right?
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Walter Govingcocke - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 05:00:31 EST ID:Tn/H1vIN No.174827 Ignore Report Reply
>>174823
They do have babies in cages and an unbalanced budget via lower taxes for the rich. #helpingpoorwhitefolk
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Beatrice Cleddleshit - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 05:23:56 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174828 Ignore Report Reply
One wonders if there is government debt
because there is too much spending on wars
and welfare.
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Cedric Berryspear - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 17:05:50 EST ID:8c32w9KN No.174833 Ignore Report Reply
>>174828
It's in debt because the Republicans were never interested in balancing the budget when they had full power in Congress and the white House.

The last fiscally conservative president was Carter. If you seek a balanced budget, don't think the Republicans are ever going to deliver on that promise.
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Beatrice Cleddleshit - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:54:32 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174836 Ignore Report Reply
If 50% of the US is Fascist and 50% is Communist then who will speak up for freedom?
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Nathaniel Fobberchudge - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:20:30 EST ID:+8irr0Qf No.174837 Ignore Report Reply
>>174833
This. Notice how not one of these fuckers except maybe Rand Paul mentions the mushrooming deficit under Tr*mp
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James Hondlestare - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:38:48 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174838 Ignore Report Reply
This feels like Obama's 3rd term.
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Barnaby Shittinggold - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:25:53 EST ID:g+vb2gyp No.174840 Ignore Report Reply
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>>174836
The communists.
What freedom does a person enjoy if they're born into poverty, get an inferior education, and bound to acquire lifelong debt on subsistence wages?

The freedom of capitalists to own someone else's home or labor impinges on the freedom of the workers.
A society where landlords didn't exist and all businesses were worker-owned is more free than one where most people's homes and labor are owned and controlled by someone else.
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James Hondlestare - Sun, 14 Apr 2019 23:55:26 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174841 Ignore Report Reply
If tyranny is so wonderful, why do North Koreans try to escape North Korea?
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Barnaby Shittinggold - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:19:39 EST ID:g+vb2gyp No.174842 Ignore Report Reply
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>>174841
Opposing the tyranny of capitalists isn't a form of tyranny.
Labor is entitled to all it creates. Any system which uses violence to separate the workers from the wealth they create is tyrannical.
This includes capitalism and state-capitalism.
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James Hondlestare - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 00:42:43 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174843 Ignore Report Reply
Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
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Emma Buffingmag - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:21:36 EST ID:7jSCk8Ii No.174844 Ignore Report Reply
>>174843
Chinese penises are so shockingly small.
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James Hondlestare - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 05:58:40 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174847 Ignore Report Reply
You don't have to buy from anyone.
You don't have to work at any particular job.
You don't have to participate in any given relationship.
You can choose.
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Esther Suddlelore - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:18:54 EST ID:fpo1elCK No.174849 Ignore Report Reply
>>174847
>>Where to elect there is but one,
>>'Tis Hobson's choice—take that, or none.
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James Hondlestare - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:42:59 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174850 Ignore Report Reply
Being forbidden from owning private property
doesn't sound like freedom.
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Esther Suddlelore - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:55:34 EST ID:fpo1elCK No.174854 Ignore Report Reply
>>174850
Being forbidden from owning the labor of other people
doesn't sound like FREEEDUUUM
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James Hondlestare - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 10:19:18 EST ID:fxH+IRjm No.174855 Ignore Report Reply
WTF?

If you pay someone $20 to rake your yard, did you steal from the worker?

Did the worker steal from you?

Can't workers quit?

Can't people start businesses?

Fundamentally, there are only two ways of coordinating the economic activities of millions. One is central direction involving the use of coercion - the technique of the army and of the modern totalitarian state. The other is voluntary cooperation of individuals - the technique of the marketplace.
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Esther Suddlelore - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:48:29 EST ID:fpo1elCK No.174858 Ignore Report Reply
>>174855
How did it come to be 'your' yard in the first place? Were you born as a piece of land? Since I know you weren't, and no one else was either, how is it some people have yards and some don't?

>>Fundamentally, there are only two ways of coordinating the economic activities of millions.
No, there are two ways that have been predominantly tried. There are an unlimited variety of ways to coordinate economic behavior, but most have never been attempted.

>>The other is voluntary cooperation of individuals - the technique of the marketplace.
There is nothing about market dynamics that requires the use of private property. Theoretically, goods and services can be manufactured and rendered just as easily using means of production and resources held by the public, or held collectively, as those held privately. In fact many historical and modern economies are based on just that. Private holdings also create the situation I allude to; no one who owns things privately got them all entirely by themselves, they got them through the cooperation of countless agents, but the nature of private property means those other agents are owed no compensation for that fact. Thus, over time, people realize something is being taken from them, and revolution ensues. If they had ownership and commensurate compensation, there would be no incentive for this, so there is an inherent fragility to private ownership based capitalism -- which is why it has been under more or less constant assault from without and within ever since its inception a few hundred years ago.

I'm all for market dynamics when they are in service of the public good. The only way property can be used for the public good, rather than enrichment of individuals, is if, at minimum, the resources of the planet are held collectively. There's some debate over whether it makes sense to have some small degree of private enterprise resting on top of that, but all this is to illustrate that the possibility space is much richer than the black and white options you present.
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Nathaniel Fobberchudge - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:51:42 EST ID:+8irr0Qf No.174859 Ignore Report Reply
>>174855
>the marketplace doesn't use coercion
This is the worst thing about Capitalist shills. They like to pretend that anything a corporation does is fine when they'd scream bloody murder about a state doing it. We have more corporate propaganda than any state ever did in human history and the markets themselves aren't some mysterious entity guided by the mysterious force of the hidden hand. They're concrete economic interests that use a wide variety of coercive techniques to fuck over business rivals and consumers alike. You have no reason to defend these sons of bitches any more than the federal government.
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Lillian Cittinghall - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:17:44 EST ID:Zg4OPEmQ No.174866 Ignore Report Reply
>>174859
Market defenders imagine the marketplace as a literal marketplace, like an Arab bazaar where you can go and haggle and get the right subjective price or some such BS. They aren't dealing with the real world economy, where prices are administered via fiat or contract. Open-market exchanges occur rarely in the course of actual production. Toyota, Ford, Tesla, don't buy parts from an open, competitive, market.

Likewise for the labor market. Who the fuck negotiates their wage if they're not a professional with scarce labor? And who the fuck falls into that category without guilds and professional associations being in existence which can restrict the labor pool? We live in a society, and that's what libertarians forget. There are non-market institutions which interface with the market, which even call the market into existence. Libertarians are only willing to imagine exchanges from individual to individual, and the horizon of possibilities this opens up. They don't see, and aren't willing to see, institutional power exert itself. They just ideologically blind themselves to it.
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Matilda Deddlestone - Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:53:53 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.174869 Ignore Report Reply
You're arguing with a Chinese Bot. Stop it.
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Jarvis Fiblingsock - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 06:16:25 EST ID:eW7lNgCN No.174899 Ignore Report Reply
>>174847

By being born into a country like the US you are contractually obligated through your existence to participate in the rules of the system laid down before your birth.

You aren't born free, and you'll likely never die free. This entire life is borrowed time, nigga.
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Angus Chevingshit - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 19:59:41 EST ID:AxHjC7fR No.174929 Ignore Report Reply
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>>174928
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Jarvis Darringway - Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:16:25 EST ID:fpo1elCK No.174930 Ignore Report Reply
>>174928
The bots cannot write in paragraph form.

The bots mindlessly string together interchangeable sentences full of buzzwords.

The bots have no agenda other than to derail reasonable argument and support the status quo.

The bots are chinese.
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Oliver Gucklechadging - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:40:03 EST ID:q32qMbOZ No.175107 Ignore Report Reply
Americans used to believe in freedom.

http://www.naplesnews.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/07/01/commentary-land-free-and-home-brave/427082001/

Now Americans would need to be mentally ill to think tyranny won’t get worse.

Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm?

During the Wild West in the US, everyone could carry guns, businesses were not licensed, no one had Social Security numbers, there were no sales, income, or property taxes, and drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution were legal.

There was little government, yet people lived and had freedom.

http://www.harrybrowne.com/GLO/DrugWar.htm

The government today is regulating every area of everyone’s life.

The government wants to tell us what to do, what to think, where to live, how to live, what to wear, and what to eat. Saying you live in a free country with a straight face is difficult when everything is illegal.

How can anyone take the moral high ground on anything when we are all criminals?

In the US, your body is not your body, your property is not your property, and your kid is not your kid.

Government is not the solution to problems. Government IS the problem.

Alcohol prohibition failed. The Soviet Union failed.

http://www.bradford-delong.com/2008/02/why-the-soviet.html

Anyone who supports the police state is just a tool for the elites.

Too bad Americans are surrendering liberty so easily.

Why did the USA fight for freedom against the British, Hitler, and Saddam if America just ended up as a police state? All those American soldiers died in vain.

The elites are trying to weaken and divide Americans by race, gender, handicap, penalizing hard work, encouraging welfare use, and pushing immorality while using fear, terrorism, drugs, false flags, discrimination, hate speech, Russian propaganda, and fake news laws, and wars on cash to make Americans give up their free speech rights, religious freedom, guns, right to silence, privacy, property, right to trials, freedom from torture, and the freedom from extrajudicial assassination.

https://fee.org/articles/the-growth-of-government-in-america/

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.
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Priscilla Baffinghood - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:47:13 EST ID:KetzL85W No.175108 Ignore Report Reply
>>175107
Long post, but worth the read.

Fight apathy! Or don't.
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Lydia Goodworth - Sat, 20 Apr 2019 23:48:54 EST ID:+caSzARK No.175109 Ignore Report Reply
>>175108
Dont feed the bot.
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Oliver Gucklechadging - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 00:14:05 EST ID:q32qMbOZ No.175111 Ignore Report Reply
You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.
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Sidney Cagglekog - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 03:56:59 EST ID:qFtXSnUb No.175113 Ignore Report Reply
>>175108
That's a bot m8
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Oliver Gucklechadging - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 04:43:30 EST ID:q32qMbOZ No.175115 Ignore Report Reply
Americans have gone insane.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The default American response to the US collapse is to ignore the decay, excuse government abuse, attack the messengers who warn of the dangers of tyranny, and to blame everyone else except themselves for the decline.

Americans are ignoring the obvious collapse of the US by sticking their heads in the sand and focusing instead on bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex.

Americans don't care about government corruption and scandals.

Americans will vehemently attack anyone who dares criticize their beloved government overlords by shouting "fake news!" or calling patriots spammers, trolls, shills, bots, racists, junkies, retards, or nutjobs and demanding that the truth-tellers be censored, banned, get IRS audits, be arrested, or be killed.

Americans quickly blame China, Russia, libtards, Bush, Obama, homosexuals, Communists, Nazis, blacks, atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, feminists, baby boomers, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.

Americans say Churchill, FDR, Stalin, LBJ, Putin, Merkel, and Hitler are Jews, no one died during WWII, white people never owned slaves, Communists never killed anyone, the Bill of Rights was repealed by the Organic Act of 1872, and Freemasons control the world, but they never offer any proof. Anyone who does provide opposing evidence will be told their source is unreliable.

Americans say increasing the national debt decreases it.

Americans say food stamps are freedom.

Americans say war is peace.

Americans say tyranny is the American way.

The collapse of the US is shocking and disgusting.

How can Americans sleep at night now?

Every country has the government it deserves.
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Ernest Chogglewater - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 05:51:41 EST ID:zWAQnS/y No.175116 Ignore Report Reply
>>175115
Tiny chinese penises.
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Oliver Gucklechadging - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 09:12:42 EST ID:q32qMbOZ No.175117 Ignore Report Reply
This article is worth reading.
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Beatrice Pollybotch - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:11:30 EST ID:tszCZv8T No.175122 Ignore Report Reply
>>174821
To be fair the Americans have been the least dickish major empire so far. This might just be general human societal improvement though as generally later empires suck less than earlier ones.

tl;dr; before you trash the Yanks; remember how low the bar is.
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Isabella Chondlefuck - Sun, 21 Apr 2019 15:21:40 EST ID:+8irr0Qf No.175124 Ignore Report Reply
>>175122
That's...er well I mean we dont necessarily shit where we eat. And we mostly don't do the whole impaling people through the anus on pikes thing. But the shit the US does to other countries is still remarkably evil. I think it's just that we've been less evil than the Nazis, Inperial Japan, and Stalinist Russia, and of the three major contenders for global dominance atm are the least shit option, which isnt saying much because the other is gangster Russia and winnie the pooh China. Honestly though we do have a 4th power, EU, which just needs to get its shit together and stop acting like Weimar Germany. The only problem is it's invariably going to be led by either the French or the Germans, and they're both cunts.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:15:24 EST ID:1TnQ4kCh No.175138 Report Reply
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
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Betsy Pickbury - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:22:45 EST ID:OEiQQEaq No.175139 Ignore Report Reply
>>175138
Good thinking using blocked phrases. It works even for govt sanctioned bots?
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:50:18 EST ID:1TnQ4kCh No.175140 Report Reply
>>175139
Not sure. Will be interesting to find out!
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Henry Fenninglock - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:36:57 EST ID:+caSzARK No.175142 Ignore Report Reply
>>175138
>Winnie the Pooh

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Cornelius Pitthall - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:12:31 EST ID:+8irr0Qf No.175143 Ignore Report Reply
>>175139
I'd assume that the intelligence apparatus of censorship heavy countries has a special clearance to see otherwise forbidden or controversial information as part of their jobs. Probably like how the FBI surely has clearance to see or interact with CP or terrorism networks or whatever.
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Charlotte Genkincocke - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:31:06 EST ID:49yy0Qpx No.175144 Ignore Report Reply
>>174821
Chine bot. WTF are you doing mang We already have a have NJ as our overlord.
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Spunky - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:05:36 EST ID:Zhdk+f9U No.175145 Report Reply
>>175142

It's been outlawed because some people were using the name as a code phrase to mock one of the government officials, I think.

Good move linking all blocked phrases, it will either block out the bots, or send more this way thinking this place is some hub of anti-government support. Let's wait and see!
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Betsy Pickbury - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:24:56 EST ID:OEiQQEaq No.175146 Ignore Report Reply
>>175145
Yeah people call Xi Jin Ping Winnie the Pooh hahahahaha
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Phyllis Bemblehood - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 16:44:52 EST ID:WL3e2fsO No.175148 Ignore Report Reply
Your daily reminder that the chinese government killed 12,000 of it's own citizens on national TV in 1989 and swept all of it under the rug, and the world just let them have a free pass on it.
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Polly Dartdale - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:13:53 EST ID:8pt/AtPX No.175149 Ignore Report Reply
>>175143
Given how paranoid Emperor Xi has become, low level ones (like ones assigned to spam a god damn drug chan) likely don't.
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Barnaby Wumblekeck - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:18:27 EST ID:7piEjpDw No.175150 Ignore Report Reply
Just gonna post this if it will let me...

公民起义无产阶级
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Charlotte Bromblepurk - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:38:30 EST ID:eLnTdGga No.175151 Ignore Report Reply
Democrats are the bad guys. 4 more years of trump.
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Phoebe Wadgebat - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 17:55:58 EST ID:4scaaRdR No.175152 Ignore Report Reply
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>>175142
>>175145
>>175146

started from this pic IIRC
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Cornelius Pitthall - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 18:41:35 EST ID:+8irr0Qf No.175157 Ignore Report Reply
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>>175151
>4 more years of Saudi and Israeli dick sucking
Anyway fuck China. Let us instead talk about all the ways China is shit and why you should never, ever buy Chinese made goods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRbxIE-CLvA
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Phoebe Wadgebat - Tue, 23 Apr 2019 19:51:28 EST ID:4scaaRdR No.175160 Ignore Report Reply
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>>175157
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George Blerringbury - Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:55:58 EST ID:+ZJa+T/S No.175168 Ignore Report Reply
>>175157
Where am I supposed to get my titanium? Poland? Fuck outta here.


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