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US vs Iran

- Mon, 06 May 2019 22:40:35 EST eW7lNgCN No.175452
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>Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces


Looks like the war drums are fueling up again for more never-ending wars against the middle east. No surprise since the US has been wanting to go after Iran for a long time. This is a bunch of bullshit.
Walter Menningford - Mon, 06 May 2019 22:49:05 EST YzHGXqax No.175453 Reply
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It would be pretty funny to watch a multi-billion dollar war behemoth get smoked by a swarm of little speedboats.

I mean, everything else would suck if things get that far, but that would be pretty funny at least.
Martin Besslewock - Tue, 07 May 2019 01:22:56 EST p066FM3w No.175454 Reply
Assuming Russia would ever let this turn into a full blown war, Iran is not a proxy state but a full blown ally and sovereign state at this point
Thomas Channerspear - Tue, 07 May 2019 13:05:06 EST Kkodvl6D No.175467 Reply
>planned attack on US forces
Everybody knows right wingers/the US are prone to false flag attacks. Says who? Who says Iran planned to attack US forces? It's the other way around and US leadership should all be assassinated for this.
Betsy Sinnerwutch - Tue, 07 May 2019 14:18:56 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.175468 Reply
Never forget

>The truth is that van Riper did something so important that I still can’t believe the mainstream press hasn’t made anything of it. With nothing more than a few “small boats and aircraft,” van Riper managed to sink most of the US fleet in the Persian Gulf.

>What this means is as simple and plain as a skull: every US Navy battle group, every one of those big fancy aircraft carriers we love, won’t last one single day in combat against a serious enemy.

>The Navy brass tried to bluff it out, but they were pretty lame about it. They just declared the sunken ships “refloated” so the game could go on as planned. This is the kind of word-game that makes the military look so damn dumb. Too bad Bonaparte never thought of that after Trafalgar: “My vleete, she is now reflotte!” Too bad Phillip didn’t demand a refloat after the Armada went down: “Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK?”

>Everybody in this story has an agenda-starting with the retired USMC General named Paul K. van Riper, the hero of the story for most readers. Even the Army Times, when it broke the story, admitted that van Riper has a reputation as an “asshole” who has a grudge against hi-tech scenarios like the one the military was testing. He also has a reputation as a guy who lives for the chance to make the brass look bad in war games.

>But what van Riper did to the US fleet…that’s something very different. He was given nothing but small planes and ships-fishing boats, patrol boats, that kind of thing. He kept them circling around the edges of the Persian Gulf aimlessly, driving the Navy crazy trying to keep track of them. When the Admirals finally lost patience and ordered all planes and ships to leave, van Riper had them all attack at once. And they sank two-thirds of the US fleet.

>That should scare the hell out of everybody who cares about how well the US is prepared to fight its next war. It means that a bunch of Cessnas, fishing boats and assorted private craft, crewed by good soldiers and armed with anti-ship missiles, can destroy a US aircraft carrier. That means that the hundreds of trillions (yeah, trillions) of dollars we’ve invested in shipbuilding is wasted, worthless.

>A few years ago, a US submarine commander said, “There are two kinds of ship in the US Navy: subs and targets.” The fact that big surface ships are dinosaurs is something that’s gotten clearer every decade since 1921.

Reuben Breddleneg - Wed, 08 May 2019 13:51:58 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.175503 Reply
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>mfw the IRGC tanks an entire US fleet with secret Shi'ite tech
Eliza Gangerwater - Wed, 08 May 2019 15:08:51 EST qFtXSnUb No.175505 Reply
Thule USA is pretty much the cancer of the world at this point'

Hey look at me I sound like China bot
Caroline Mendleworth - Wed, 08 May 2019 16:02:26 EST tlilhxRg No.175507 Reply
This shit right here explains exactly why the US Navy is the ONLY Navy in the world that relies on an absurd amount of aircraft carriers.

Even motherfucking Soviet Russia didn't have so much aircraft carriers.
It's retarded, and only retarded cunts think so many aircraft carriers have value.
Cornelius Fovingsetch - Thu, 09 May 2019 04:17:25 EST +8irr0Qf No.175518 Reply
China is one of the few countries certifiably worse than the USA. I would unironically volunteer for the US military to fight China because the PRC is sincerely just that fucking shitty and it behooves everyone to ensure China gets fucked as severely as possible on the international stage so they can't spread their cancer elsewhere. Also Taiwan is an independent country, Homg Kong shouldn't have been given back to China, and China should fuck off from the rightful and sovereign territorial waters of Japan, Phillipines, Thailand, and Vietnam. Fuck off China. You are a shithole and everything about your country an embarrassment that brings great shame and dishonor to humanity. except China's space program. PRC space program brings great honor to China and Chinese people and whole human race.
Betsy Heblingfirk - Thu, 09 May 2019 05:00:54 EST hTGvLTCN No.175521 Reply
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iran on its own obviously cannot and would not win a conventional war with uncle sam.

but russia and/or china can throw a wrench in those plans.

lets hope the saber rattling remains half-assed, just one incident, one ship sunk, one plane shot down, whatever can set off a fucking epic chain of events.

prepare your assholes.
Martha Sankinmut - Thu, 09 May 2019 10:57:13 EST 1KcWuZvS No.175532 Reply
US strategists have assumed Iran would win a conventional war for a couple decades now, that's why they havn't started one yet. Iran can very easily close the straights of Hormuz to shipping, blocking a significant chunk of the world's energy supplies from export, and then further harass the sea lanes into the Red Sea towards the Suez without the US really being able to stop them and probably also inflicting massive casualties to the US surface fleet if they tried >>175468
On the ground in the Middle East they have a conventional military that only Iraq before it was destroyed and Turkey before it was alienated from NATO could have actually stood up against. Israel is only capable of defending itself in a large scale conventional conflict.

Not to mention that after their civil wars Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are now all functionally Iranian client states, and that after Iraq followed by Libya the US will never get international support for a war in the middle east again. Russia wouldn't need to lift a finger except maybe at the UN security council to flex its veto.
Albert Begglewot - Thu, 09 May 2019 19:23:44 EST YzHGXqax No.175550 Reply
Weird how Asian world powers turn certain people here into frothing neocon nationalists.

A ground invasion of Iran would go at least as badly as Iraq and Vietnam, probably much worse. Both strategically and politically.

The US could do shitloads of damage if Trump is ultimately stupid enough to try, but it would be ultimately unwinnable and the effects of doing so could very well be the deathblow to the empire or the world.
Fucking Hirringbury - Fri, 10 May 2019 23:33:51 EST zntBSwID No.175597 Reply
It actually makes perfect sense if you want to claim the entire world as your own.
Oliver Smallbury - Sat, 11 May 2019 17:38:17 EST hTGvLTCN No.175606 Reply

>being able to strike anywhere at any time is fucking retarded

weve got a real west point graduate over here.
Ian Hezzleway - Sat, 11 May 2019 18:33:11 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.175608 Reply
It would take one good hit from a North Korean midget sub to completely disable any American aircraft carrier. The US military has picked its battles such that it hasn't faced a credible naval threat in decades, so imagine American ships getting swarmed by IRGC patrol boats or DPRK midget subs. Americans wouldn't know what to do because they're used to shooting Jihadists in the desert with drones and thumbs up their asses. The moment the US fleet becomes subject to actual warfare, instead of the police operations its made into its international mission, it will crumple like the paper tiger we've always known it to be.

The US military is a jobs program. This is why we have, e.g., the Zumwalts, which don't have functional weapon systems anymore. This is why we keep building aircraft carriers despite submarines and cruise missiles making them pointless. An aircraft carrier is a giant, expensive, target. We make them because the military-industrial complex needs funding, because the shareholders want to see their bottom line go up, and because many thousands of people need jobs so they aren't added to the unemployment roll.
Priscilla Soblingforth - Sat, 11 May 2019 20:23:57 EST +8irr0Qf No.175609 Reply
There's cheaper ways of making useless jobs. It isn't even about jobs. It is purely because some people profit immensely from getting awarded weapons and other contracts and that's it. Hell if it were even just a jobs program it'd be better than the dumb shit we actually have.
Molly Pittway - Sat, 11 May 2019 22:34:23 EST tlilhxRg No.175610 Reply
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Just ask fucking allies for space on military airfields, like every other Western power.
Eugene Penderstock - Mon, 13 May 2019 04:17:15 EST ZshXD/vb No.175628 Reply
https://www.kkk.com/national-security/2019/04/25/iranian-ayatollah-defies-u-s-sanctions-we-will-export-our-oil-as-much-as-we-need/ , Does this slightly sum it up, there is always a story behind a story,

Back when we used to make fun of Iran, Reagan, all that ayatollah stuff. All was cool. Even though it wasn't.

Iraq was about, uranium. no oil?

[Former vice presidential aide I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to [investigators following the 2003 leak and pardoned by President Donald Trump.

Trump can pardon his-self. So he says.
George Mucklesten - Mon, 13 May 2019 18:57:08 EST dbM7KxGC No.175632 Reply
This shit is insane. I don't understand why normal people don't care that the US is trying to start a war with Iran. Iran started enriching nuclear material because both Israel and Saudi Arabia are threatening to wipe them off the face of the earth, then the US comes along and starts sanctioning the crap out of them to force them to agree to a deal stopping them from furthering nuclear technology, then they adhere to the agreement perfectly, but the US lies and says that they broke it, then sanctions them even harder. The US is clearly the aggressor here, just like they were the last time. I want my country to stop picking fights with people we have nothing to do with.
Angus Brucklestere - Tue, 14 May 2019 19:36:36 EST Yg7xmlNg No.175681 Reply
>>Republicans tend to call the US an 'experiment.'

>Calling America an experiment is something that goes right back to the founding fathers.

Likewise, the separation of church and state. The list goes on.

If 'they' are going to refer to the US as an experiment, they should as people say, walk-the-walk.
At least barely try to.
Eugene Pigglechark - Wed, 15 May 2019 15:44:39 EST tlilhxRg No.175720 Reply
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If there will be an actual war with Iran... it'll be messy. It'll make the Falklands War look like a lil' Venetian canal boat skirmish.


This guy ripped the whole US Navy a new asshole with assymetrical warfare and a fuckload of anti-ship missiles in a wargame exercise meant to simulate the USA vs. Iran.

Blue is "the USA", Red is "generic Middle-Eastern country (spoiler, it's Iran)"
>Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.
Fuck Saddlewater - Wed, 15 May 2019 16:34:19 EST +8irr0Qf No.175721 Reply
>I'll just post one of a dozen moronic meme pics from my 4cancer folder that'll show him!

yeah it was already mentioned see
But of course the obese idiot in office must appease his Zionist masters.
Oliver Hindletene - Fri, 24 May 2019 18:54:34 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176015 Reply
I don't really understand why people thought Trump was anti-establishment. He represents the views of the middle class, predominantly white, rank-and-file of the Republican party. I guess he was anti-establishment in the sense he wasn't the candidate the GOP leadership wanted, but the interests of white middle class Republicans is about as "establishment" as you can get without being, like, Merrill Lynch or Alphabet, and the interests of these groups coincide more often than not.
Nathaniel Sonderworth - Sat, 25 May 2019 11:06:38 EST 4eXN7o96 No.176034 Reply
They seem to be either too young to remember the trump saga over the last 30 years, only ever seen him on his show that they watched unironically, or the anti-establishment they saw was fascism and they knew the whole time. All three of these groups exist, unfortunately that last one doesn't seem to be the smallest group.
Frederick Soblingworth - Sat, 25 May 2019 17:02:35 EST +8irr0Qf No.176040 Reply
>I don't really understand why people thought Trump was anti-establishment
Because they're fucking dumb that's why. Half the population has an IQ under 100. Always remember that on election day. Republican voters are and always have been complete fucking morons with a few smarter people who are utterly self serving. Then they try and tell themselves it's all Kushner's fault, or the media's, or Soros, or whoever the fuck "changing Trump" because it bruises their egos to much to admit they were wrong to begin with and are a bunch of fucking dumbasses for ever having believed a pathological liar in the first place.
Ebenezer Ducklespear - Sat, 25 May 2019 20:29:32 EST PlPYyJaR No.176044 Reply
>Republican voters are and always have been complete fucking morons with a few smarter people who are utterly self serving.

This and always this.
Matilda Blatherdock - Sat, 25 May 2019 23:10:14 EST 8pt/AtPX No.176045 Reply
Yeah, that doesn't work because the midwest is domentated by Republicans and is high too..

IQ is bullshit anyway.
Henry Pummerfane - Sat, 25 May 2019 23:44:35 EST 4scaaRdR No.176046 Reply

what are you talking about lol midwest is pretty solid progressive zone
Matilda Chazzlenone - Sun, 26 May 2019 01:14:29 EST M/Ws53KS No.176047 Reply

Bull-fucking-shit the midwest is dominated by republicans. The only reason they have majorities in state positions is blatant gerrymandering.
Matilda Blatherdock - Sun, 26 May 2019 01:41:02 EST 8pt/AtPX No.176049 Reply
The midwest is soildy red ever presidential election.
Matilda Chazzlenone - Sun, 26 May 2019 01:53:54 EST M/Ws53KS No.176050 Reply

Again, sparse populations and gerrymandering. If it weren't for the electoral college, the republicans would never have been in office again after Reagan.
Matilda Blatherdock - Sun, 26 May 2019 02:13:03 EST 8pt/AtPX No.176051 Reply
Not gonna argue since I hope its true.

But the main point is that IQ is bullshit, don't use bullshit that White Supremacists love to use.
Henry Pummerfane - Sun, 26 May 2019 07:10:45 EST 4scaaRdR No.176052 Reply

its different though, and actually correct. there IS a statistically significant, verifiable correlation between where one lies on the progessive/conservative scale and IQ. as well as physiological differences such as volume/density of the fear centers of the brain, etc.
Phyllis Climmlesurk - Sun, 26 May 2019 11:08:17 EST QgwvDyjp No.176053 Reply
Kill yourself phrenologist dirt bag, I can tell by the shape of your skull that you're a fuckboy

Yeah that bastion of republican voters California, right?
Phyllis Climmlesurk - Sun, 26 May 2019 11:19:21 EST QgwvDyjp No.176054 Reply
Seriously do you guys not hear yourselves here?
"the people from the opposite political spectrum are literally, physiologically lesser than me"
"they don't actually have any political support, the places they win constantly are just blighted empty stretches of gerrymandered farms"
"if we had drawn the electoral map instead of them they wouldn't have touched power for the last 30 years"

How much of a ham handed crypto fascist do you have to be my dudes
Sophie Drittinghure - Sun, 26 May 2019 13:14:48 EST R/lJg2NR No.176058 Reply
Most of that is fair, but that one guy is correct that no republican since Reagan has won the popular vote. Gerrymandering has been a powerful tool used by conservatives for decades.
Hugh Wandledure - Sun, 26 May 2019 15:57:58 EST tlilhxRg No.176063 Reply
They're not wrong though. Republicans have marketed themselves to literal conspiracy theorists and people that believe the world is only 6000 years old.
Ernest Shittinglock - Sun, 26 May 2019 17:57:26 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176064 Reply
That's not who Republicans have marketed themselves to, that's who the Republican party is and has been made up of. The Republican party leadership is just more accountable to its rank-and-file than the Democratic party is. The GOP elite didn't want Trump. The rank-and-file of pick-up truck owners and evangelical Fascists did.
Charles Blattingsut - Sun, 26 May 2019 21:59:04 EST 1oIk8TNb No.176072 Reply
>the same fat retarded Fox watching boomers
Just imagine, 20 years from now those people won't be a problem anymore.
Esther Cengernag - Mon, 27 May 2019 10:20:45 EST eW7lNgCN No.176076 Reply

We can only pray that they smoke cigarettes and regularly frequent fast food joints
David Nennerdetch - Tue, 28 May 2019 06:48:46 EST pRas7Cwl No.176098 Reply
>Let's nuke Iran lel
>Immigrant babies go in cages >:(
>I would personally watch ten thousand people die preventable deaths to make sure negros can't get healthcare
>lolol deus vult kek 1488 pepe lulz
>you crybaby snowflake leftists just don't have what it takes to make the tough decisions, grow a thicker skin!

Also Republicans:
>b-b-but how could you say mean things about us Can't you see how mean you're being? Gosh you're so mean to us, why can't you be nicer??? :```(
Rebecca Chivingwater - Tue, 28 May 2019 11:11:39 EST QgwvDyjp No.176105 Reply
I'm a Canadian socialist and I didn't say you guys are being mean I said you're literally behaving like fascists, and since the people you're opposed to are also fascists that just starts one giant race to the bottom.

When you start to look for biological justifications for why you can ignore entire segments of the political spectrum is when you start to lose whatever moral high ground you want to stand on.
Sidney Puvingworth - Tue, 28 May 2019 15:34:09 EST YzHGXqax No.176109 Reply
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>gerrymandering and the electoral college
>"biological justifications"
Frederick Finnerville - Tue, 28 May 2019 15:53:15 EST M/Ws53KS No.176110 Reply

If an entire segment of the political spectrum is literally more primitive and less equipped for the world of today....
Frederick Finnerville - Tue, 28 May 2019 15:53:19 EST M/Ws53KS No.176111 Reply

If an entire segment of the political spectrum is literally more primitive and less equipped for the world of today....
Archie Clessletune - Tue, 28 May 2019 16:01:59 EST Ku/RhorJ No.176112 Reply
Except those grugs are the only thing allowing le current year to not be hand d over to barbarians.
Frederick Finnerville - Tue, 28 May 2019 16:38:38 EST M/Ws53KS No.176113 Reply

They are the barbarians though. That's the point. Your average GOP voter is a Neanderthal.
Sophie Grimstock - Tue, 28 May 2019 16:42:37 EST fQhu2mcO No.176114 Reply
Neanderthals actually had bigger brains, libs once more owned. Anyways they occupy a sociological niche as a bulwark to something worse and yes evangelicals are only your first shonen foe, worse follows
Frederick Finnerville - Tue, 28 May 2019 17:31:21 EST M/Ws53KS No.176116 Reply

Larger brains do not mean more intelligence. Blue whale, for example.
Sidney Puvingworth - Tue, 28 May 2019 17:36:38 EST YzHGXqax No.176118 Reply
>Anyways they occupy a sociological niche as a bulwark to something worse and yes evangelicals are only your first shonen foe, worse follows
What exactly is this supposed to mean?
Augustus Bimmerketch - Tue, 28 May 2019 17:53:07 EST Ad5R1EBC No.176119 Reply
Get over the redneck/flyover hate because whatever replaces will be more draconian and illiberal.
Sidney Puvingworth - Tue, 28 May 2019 17:58:33 EST YzHGXqax No.176120 Reply
>whatever replaces
What exactly does this mean?

If we are to evaluate your claim that X serves as a "bulwark" to Y, you need to define what Y is. What exactly would "replace" rednecks that rednecks are protecting us against?
Frederick Finnerville - Tue, 28 May 2019 18:21:07 EST M/Ws53KS No.176121 Reply

And what exactly is worse than a hoard of dumb, ignorant hicks hell-bent on destroying the country just to "own the libs"?
Betsy Sengerford - Tue, 28 May 2019 18:50:26 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176122 Reply
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I don't know man, getting put on trial for miscarriages seems pretty illiberal and draconian, Louisiana and Oklahoma having higher incarceration rates than Cuba and the DPRK is wild. Southern GOP voters are, in the philosophical sense, fascists and reactionaries; not conservatives. They have a blood lust for anyone they don't go to church with or aren't kin to. Do you think the post-hippies hopped up on stims and California Ideology are worse? Do you have any reason to believe that besides "they're gonna take mah guns"? Because the southern GOP voters are down for all the bad shit those fuckers want too.

There is one movement that is capable of substantively changing things, and that is communism, the real movement against the current state of things. It is only with the help of the international working class that the American Empire will be overthrown and an International Workers' Republic formed. But first the American working class must band together under its own collective self-institution, overthrow the bosses and elites, seize the means of production, and let the working classes of the world follow our example.
Fucking Ponderway - Tue, 28 May 2019 19:04:57 EST fpo1elCK No.176123 Reply
>>But first the American working class must band together under its own collective self-institution, overthrow the bosses and elites, seize the means of production, and let the working classes of the world follow our example.
Uhm, about that... what's plan B again?
Betsy Sengerford - Tue, 28 May 2019 19:15:15 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176124 Reply
No plan B, the stakes are just that high. It's socialism or barbarism. You skate, or you die.
Phineas Cenderworth - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:30:38 EST FOfwLHWD No.176768 Reply
The Reagan admin assholes deliberately tried to hold everything off until Reagan officially took office so they could use it as a publicity stunt. Reagan was quite possibly the worst scum in the history of this country. Not even trump has yet managed to be as overtly criminal and scummy as that asshole and I'm glad he's dead.
Nigel Forryledge - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:18:48 EST KetzL85W No.176769 Reply
Reagan marked the beginning of modern US policy: endless wars, illegal coups, deregulation, increased domestic poverty, domestic mass surveillance, censorship. He's the root of a lot of evil in the US, him and his blasted Monroe Doctrine.
Michael Parenti - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:23:56 EST O4m6NL9Q No.176770 Reply
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It's amazing how the media cares more about an exploding Japanese oil tanker (that possibly could have been an accident) than the 1000s of people who die because of low wages and lack of healthcare. The carnival of carnage happens everyday at home, and these wag the dog incidents in the Middle East are poorly veiled attempts to prevent social progress for working class American citizens. As soon as Trump initiates a war... All but the most innocuous dissent against working class material conditions and the war will be labeled as assisting some autocracy. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, and starting a war will surely coerce Americans with expectations of patriotic support of what was a completely preventable conflict into the national conversation (Trump ripped up the Iran nuclear deal for literally no reason).
Barnaby Nudgekog - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 10:16:06 EST k4enMT4C No.176771 Reply
There's not a lot of profit to be made off of writing stores about poor people dying.
Ian Siddlestone - Sat, 15 Jun 2019 12:36:52 EST qFtXSnUb No.176772 Reply
You mean liberated their horrible barbarian warlords?
Nicholas Blemmerridge - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 11:12:20 EST S5wrZ3AB No.176774 Reply
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>(Trump ripped up the Iran nuclear deal for literally no reason).

Oh there's a reason alright, it's that asshole of a national security adviser John Bolton.
Fuck John Bolton.
Nicholas Blemmerridge - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 11:18:31 EST S5wrZ3AB No.176775 Reply
And the irony is the Democrats are culpable, if the had prosecuted Cheney,
Rumsfeld and the rest of the Neocon gang for the warcrimes during and after the
Iraq war, and the false pretenses they've made up to get it stated like they promised
during the election campains this warmonger would think twice about what he's
doing now.
Walter Fubberway - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 12:37:04 EST 1fayXY8Z No.176776 Reply
As always, the march of the oligarchy remains the same: left, right, left, right.
David Fessleshit - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:04:44 EST Q9ovwzxd No.176777 Reply
>center-right, right, center-right, right.
fixed that for you
Ian Bedgestock - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 13:05:21 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176778 Reply
Trump's evangelical base want a war with Iran because they think a nuclear war will immanentize the eschaton and bring about the rapture. You can't even make this shit up. Pompeo, former CIA director and now Secretary of State, is a hyper-evangelical and believes that the rapture is coming soon. It's not just Bolton, it's the GOP rank-and-file and their chosen leaders who are angling for a religious war with Iran. They want a crusade. So einfach ist das. That's who we're up against.
Nicholas Blemmerridge - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:10:15 EST S5wrZ3AB No.176780 Reply
I know, but I do think the pro-apocalypse mindset is a minority even among the evangelic right. Sure religious cranks flock towards influential positions especially when it comes to the middle east.
The thing is corruption stemming from the military industrial complex can in principle be fought against by law. Fighting over the top religious fundamentalism is harder because it's not a rational motivation. (Greed is)
Ian Drobbleshit - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:47:15 EST +8irr0Qf No.176784 Reply
Bolton is not an evangelical you retard.
This. As cancerous and retarded as Evangelicals are in general this isn't their fault. It's also the Saudi and Israeli lobbies who most want war with Iran, because foreign powers hijacked our national policy, in addition to a bunch of profiteering domestic enemies like say Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Abrams and all the affiliated neocon PNAC scumbags. Venezuela is another good example of these. You're talking about a bunch of people who only worship money and power.

> he thing is corruption stemming from the military industrial complex can in principle be fought against by law. Fighting over the top religious fundamentalism is harder because it's not a rational motivation. (Greed is)
What an utterly moronic stance to take. You're only butthurt at them for fedora reasons. The people who are routinely making the world a worse place aren't all a bunch of snake handlers and frankly we haven't got the same kind of problem with religious fantacism in government as we do general corruption and greed, despite the fact you'd think it would be greater considering how such large swathes of the country are religious fanatics. Instead our number one biggest problem and the absolute hardest one to root out is the greed and corruption. I happen to think the idea that love of money is the root of all evil is largely true and easily seen in US policy and it is the only area that gets worse and worse and more heavily entrenched every single year whereas the power of the evangelical lobby has largely evaporated over the last three decades.
Nicholas Blemmerridge - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:07:16 EST S5wrZ3AB No.176786 Reply
>What an utterly moronic stance to take. You're only butthurt at them for fedora reasons.
I think you did misunderstand me. Or was that directed at somebody else?

>... I happen to think the idea that love of money is the root of all evil is largely true and easily seen in US policy...
I agree on that

What I was meant to say is you can't prosecute somebody for being a lunatic, especially if they are backed by an organization run by other lunatics.

I guess you mean to say greed is not rational?
Ian Drobbleshit - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 18:43:34 EST +8irr0Qf No.176788 Reply
No I mean to say what I said, which is that Evangelicals aren't even the level of influential they were from Reagan's Moral Majority era nor even of the dubya era, and you cant prosecute people for greed either. Much of the evil shit that happens is institutionalized corruption by people who often haven't broken any laws. They aren't even remotely comparable problems.
Eliza Wocklemon - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 18:47:58 EST YzHGXqax No.176789 Reply
>This. As cancerous and retarded as Evangelicals are in general this isn't their fault.
Bullshit, it is still absolutely their fault. Those two countries wouldn't have the influence they do if so many Americans didn't think it was literally their holy duty to be as big of a violent xenophobic sociopath as is humanly possible.

And do remember that the whole reason American Evangelicism even exists in the form it does today was as a post-hoc justification for slavery, manifest destiny, Jim Crow, robber barons, imperialism and generally being a greedy cunt.
Phoebe Finnerworth - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 20:37:47 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176795 Reply
I didn't say shit about Bolton for a reason. Pompeo, who directs American foreign policy as Secretary of State, is, however, an evangelical Christian, and evangelical Christianity is the religious outlook of the majority of the Republican rank-and-file, such that every GOP leader has to pander to the fuckers in order to stay in positions of influence within the party. Evangelical Christianity as an ideology very much influences American foreign policy, and it's because evangelicals are bloodthirsty for the deaths of Muslims and other assorted infidels and heretics that a war with Iran is even a possibility.

>foreign powers hijacked our national policy

Fucking who? Which one of them wants a war with Iran? Fucking Russia? China? Both of those countries are geopolitically aligned with Iran, as sponsors of the multi-polar order. Israel and Saudi Arabia go along with the United States are bulwarks of the American Empire. It's not the other way around. We use them, and in return, we tolerate their human rights abuses. It's mutually beneficial, and the two states do interfere in our politics to keep things that way, but if it ever became in the American imperial interest to dump the fuckers, America would.

Now of course I'm not saying, given all that, that the root of the problem is Evangelicals. But the Evangelicals play a big role in providing a base for these imperialist cunts to push for war. To that extent, evangelicalism has to be relentlessly fought, and an atheist cultural hegemony has to be won in areas where evangelicalism currently enjoys hegemonic status. You won't win if you don't challenge your enemies' most basic beliefs. If you can get a population to recognize some beliefs as off limits or some foundational assumptions beyond questioning - such as the way Americans have made private property unquestionable and the promotion of a classless society unthinkable - then your enemies can dominate you. Evangelicalism is a dangerous set of beliefs and it should be combated.
Archie Blussleshit - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 22:33:27 EST hUB9qw/q No.176798 Reply
Quickening the rapture has been quoted many times over.
Archie Blussleshit - Sun, 16 Jun 2019 23:46:08 EST hUB9qw/q No.176800 Reply
>root of the problem is Evangelicals. But the Evangelicals play a big role

Sponsors is a strong word. I love every religion. Why not? I do believe Bolton is a strong leader as was the past. What strikes me as unusual that he became a leadership under trumps leadership. Bolton is kinda a strong voice.
Sidney Hockledale - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 00:59:37 EST zntBSwID No.176804 Reply
I don't know why people can't understand that the american right wing is coalition of different factions with different perspectives of the world, different amount of control over different aspects of society, but with common objectives. War with Iran suits evangelicals, zionists, imperialists, neocons, oil barons, and weapons manufacturers. So the right collectively pushes for war with Iran in their own ways. Saying one faction is "responsible" is bullshit. Claiming one faction "controls" another is meaningless unless you're talking about a specific vector. Even then you should understand that two groups can mutually exert control over each other in different ways.

I will say that the Neocons are particularly nefarious because they're the ones with a coherent world view that all those factions can individually get behind. They can also convince a bunch of really dumb liberals. Like the ones who get all teary eyed if you show them a picture of Iranian girls in short skirts under the Shah.
Jack Murdfield - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 02:00:20 EST aLSUF7ok No.176810 Reply
>So the right collectively pushes for war with Iran in their own ways

I am not complaining, but a new order is in play with Trumps VP, he does not strike me as being a evangelical per-Se. However he did speak at the evangelical collage recently. I am all cool with Christianity, but any religion can be used in a manner that is difficult at best. to cause chaos.

War with Iran has been an acute if-you-will, has been going since the 60s I guess.
I believe oil is the momentum.

This has kinda been played out though history, they have what we want.
Clara Dallerhere - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 06:31:21 EST sbRKpDxC No.176814 Reply
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The USA Military Industrial Complex Roosevelt warned the country about...
Nell Gandershit - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:42:02 EST NMfMjW3a No.176825 Reply
Iran is a mountainous country of 70+ million people with one of the youngest and most loyal populations in Asia.

USA can't win this war.
Nathaniel Nickledock - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:40:06 EST +TQnuqZW No.176826 Reply
That single post seems normal if just in broken English, but through out the thread dudes arguing(?) with himself or something.
Betsy Wankinwell - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:32:33 EST ng20boal No.176830 Reply
first time i have seen a ban, relating to my posts. It makes sense.
Frederick Bevingworth - Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:24:18 EST c0CXbQBu No.176835 Reply
I think the Iran blustering is a bellicose brinksmanship. Other posters have pointed out in this thread it's just a constant war distraction- one or two is not enough anymore. Unless Gauls are invading, people will begin to notice that the citizenry is impoverished.

I hate to see the poverty in the United States. I hate to drive in to cities and see hundreds of people in homeless encampments staking out a living underneath massive mazes of interstate underpasses. This is not a refugee crisis, it's a domestic crisis where the bottom is falling out of a society. How far will the greed of certain industries take us down this path of insanity? How much money needs to be spent to enrich massive corporations before there is a change?

The answer is no amount. The people that are behind this are not Christians. Do not say this is evangelical Christianity, because the people that you are describing, as others have said, don't have practice basic principles of it. The people that are behind this probably do not even realize what they are doing is wrong, because they are insulated from it by layers of wealth and social abstraction.

Over the years as I leave the United States and return it is more and more like returning to a place that is falling apart, more and more concentration of wealth. When I went in to Miami and saw a true homeless city I realized that the economic fantasies of the right wing are simply just fantasies and nothing more, no calculation by a Chicago professor can refute facts on the ground. Of course war, or preferably avoiding war and funding the uranium enriched ball bearing plant in your district to ensure reelection, is the answer.

Hopefully Bernie Sanders will win the democratic nomination in 2020 and turn the "left turn blinker" on before he dies.

Fuck the military that parasitically sucks the blood of our society and the enablers that profit from it, while people die in the streets. Fuck the society that creates these zombies that don't even realize what monsters they are.
Grammar Nazi - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:17:26 EST KetzL85W No.176839 Reply
I almost considered your mild points for a moment, but I noticed that you made a few typos there. I bet you're on drugs, degenerate scum.

lol spunko
Cedric Dirringshit - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:10:57 EST M/Ws53KS No.176843 Reply

Since they've been doing it for a while and it tends to come off as someone taking the piss
Phineas Bovingstork - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 20:07:29 EST kJuwL/Nl No.176849 Reply
Nah that's just classic spunky spunkin posts up. Ever sine Dr worm had the car accident Spunky has been modding more aggressively.
Lydia Drogglegold - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 08:30:50 EST lWlEy1EO No.176895 Reply
Iran shot down a US military (surveillance) drone


>Iran's Revolutionary Guard said it had shot down an "intruding American spy drone" after it entered into the country's territory Thursday.

>A US official confirmed to CNN a drone had been shot down, but said the incident occurred in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most vital shipping routes.
Jenny Blatherdale - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 08:35:01 EST O9ki67rl No.176896 Reply
Nice to see that we've reached the "I'm not touching you" stage of invasion.

Could you imagine the pants-shitting that America would do if, say, Russia flew military drones just off the coast while amassing troops and bases on both borders?
Lillian Cuttinghall - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 16:35:00 EST 4scaaRdR No.176913 Reply

Fortunately Drumpf is obeying his russian and israeli handlers, saying it was probably a mistake.
Martha Billerhall - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 18:05:11 EST ar9mMa8V No.176917 Reply
Meh. People keep asking politicians if it's an act of war but Russia China and US challenge boundaries all the time. It's just another military toy lost that tax payers pay for to them.
Priscilla Dartfoot - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:40:10 EST Zg4OPEmQ No.176944 Reply
>not wanting to kill 150 people makes him a "pussy"

ameriKKKans... smdh
Hannah Futtingstat - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 22:36:53 EST eW7lNgCN No.176945 Reply

I have to live with these people. These brainwashed morons who believe the government can do no wrong and that the popular news stations are all right and that we have to bomb these scary people half way across the world or else we'll all die tomorrow. Kind of strange how it seems like every major news source in the US is simultaneously producing a bunch of opinion pieces about how we need to attack Iran.
Hedda Drabberbanks - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 00:17:45 EST ar9mMa8V No.176947 Reply
I don't even believe there was an operation to call back at the last moment. He just knew he looked toothless in front of his base and brewed up a story about it. It's theater. It's not even that. it's a puppet show conducted by mentally handicapped puppeteer with anger issues. I think he asked whether he could do another airstrike and generaled explained the diarrhea mudslide that would unleash by attacking people for loss of a spy toy and he had to concede well before any planes left the ground.
Augustus Chattingnack - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 03:18:08 EST Zu4Iqncz No.176950 Reply
>A ground invasion of Iran would go at least as badly as Iraq

One might call it a brilliant defeat. The US by default used mass amounts of depleted uranium. To fight Iraq.

We need not defeat some identity. We fought the war in the middle east.
We do not own, a waterway, lest we respect it.
Sidney Bavinghood - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 09:01:27 EST 9b9/2FIJ No.176956 Reply
Im not concerned for the US, you reap what you sow. Its the rest of the world I'm worried about.
Shitting Gurringford - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 10:45:38 EST zntBSwID No.176957 Reply
Trump is indeed a more honest representation of the average GOP voter than any GOP politician.
Cedric Chorrytadge - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:54:11 EST QXelvFlt No.176959 Reply
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At this point the US deserves what happens to it.
Beatrice Clenningchog - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 16:29:01 EST oi6zpWFm No.176970 Reply
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>Dennis fucking Rodman' and Tucker Carlson are peacemakers
Good job boomer whisperer
Ernest Bablingtetch - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 02:35:21 EST F1Z7XELz No.176996 Reply
It seems possible.
Samuel Smalllock - Mon, 24 Jun 2019 08:27:41 EST zl/5c8Ji No.176998 Reply
The entire region will catch on fire. Nothing short of world war 3. No one is that crazy, not even Trump.
Simon Hammerwedging - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:38:10 EST +BOjAWkc No.177039 Reply
It's not Trump that wants to start WW3.

It's Bolton, Pompeo, Abrams, Israeli/Saudi/UAE lobbyists, all the "reasonable" "moderate" Republicans, and the "adults in the room".
Graham Pattingtet - Thu, 27 Jun 2019 16:46:26 EST C7jiLS+E No.177043 Reply
>It's Bolton, Pompeo, Abrams, Israeli/Saudi/UAE lobbyists, all the "reasonable" "moderate" Republicans, and the "adults in the room".
It's also:
Academi LLC (formerly Blackwater Worldwide and Xe Services)
Action Target
ADT Corporation
Advanced Armament Corporation (AAC)
Aerospace Corporation
Aegis Defense Services
AM General Corporation
American Petroleum Institute
Antonov Airlines
Argon ST
Artis LLC
Astronautics Corporation of America
Atec, Inc.
Aurora Flight Sciences
BAE Systems plc
BAE Systems Inc.
BAE Systems Electronics, Intelligence & Support
BAE Systems Land and Armaments
Land Systems OMC
Ball Corporation
Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp.
Barrett Firearms Manufacturing
Battelle Memorial Institute
BDM Corporation
Bechtel Corporation
Benelli USA
Berico Technologies
Boeing Company
McDonnell Douglas
Booz Allen Hamilton
Boston Dynamics
British Nuclear Fuels Limited
CACI International Inc.
Carlyle Group
Carnegie Mellon University
Colt Defense
The Columbia Group
Computer Sciences Corporation
Concurrent Technologies Corporation
CSRA (IT services company)
Cubic Corporation
Omega Training Group
Decibel Research Inc.
Dillon Aero
Draper Laboratories
DRS Technologies
Netherlands EADS
EADS North America
Airbus Helicopters
Edison Welding Institute
Elbit Systems
M7 Aerospace
Ernst & Young
Evergreen International Aviation
Exxon Corporation
Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta
Belgium Fabrique Nationale de Herstal
FLIR Systems
Fluor Corp.
Force Protection Inc
Foster-Miller, Inc.
Foster Wheeler Ltd.
G4S plc
Armour Group Inc
General Atomics
General Dynamics
Bath Iron Works
General Dynamics Electric Boat
General Electric Military Jet Engines Division
Glock Ges.m.b.H.
Goodrich Corporation
Halliburton Corporation
Harris Corporation
Health Net, Inc.
Heckler & Koch US
HS Produkt
Humana Inc.
Huntington Ingalls Industries
Hybricon Corporation
Insight Technology
International Resources Group
Israeli Aerospace Industries
Israeli Military Industries
ITT Exelis
Jacobs Engineering Group Inc.
Johns Hopkins University
Kaman Aircraft
Kearfott Corporation
Kellogg, Brown and Root
Knight's Armament Company
Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace
Lafayette Praetorian Group
L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc.
Lockheed Martin
Gyrocam Systems
LRAD Corporation
ManTech International
A.P. Moller-Maersk Group
McQ Inc
Metal Storm
Milkor USA
Mission Essential Personnel
Motorola Inc.
Natel Electronic Manufacturing Services
Navistar Defense
Northrop Grumman Corporation
Northrop Grumman Electronic Systems
Northrop Grumman Ship Systems
Northrop Grumman Technical Services
Oceaneering International
Olin Corporation; also see John M. Olin and John M. Olin Foundation
Orbital ATK
Oshkosh Corporation
Perot Systems
Picatinny Arsenal
Pinnacle Armor
Precision Castparts Corporation
BBN Technologies
Remington Arms
Riverside Manufacturing LLC
Rock Island Arsenal
Rockwell Collins
Rolls-Royce plc
Saab AB
Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC)
Sensis Corporation
Shell Oil Company
Siemens AG
SIG Sauer
Smith & Wesson
Smith Enterprise Inc. (SEI)
Sobran, inc
Springfield Armory, Inc.
SRI International
ST Engineering
ST Kinetics
Stanley, Inc.
Stewart and Stevenson
Sturm, Ruger & Company Incorporated
Forjas Taurus S/A
Texas Instruments
Textron Inc.
AAI Corporation
Bell Helicopter Textron
TriWest Healthcare Alliance
Unisys Corporation
United Technologies
Pratt & Whitney
URS Corporation
Washington Group International
US Ordnance
Verizon Communications
Vinnell Corporation
Westinghouse Electric Corporation
Edward Curryfare - Fri, 28 Jun 2019 09:00:56 EST twH9Ybjj No.177054 Reply
Not sure why everyone is calling this a false flag considering Khomeini benefits from war brinkmanship with the US just as much, if not more so than Trump. His grip on power has been slipping, people have become more and more upset at the corruption baked into the system and more and more public unrest has been growing. The threat of war with the US is a great distraction that will get people to give him support. Sometimes I think we've always misunderstood the causes of war, it's not about scarcity of resources or anything like that, it's probably mostly just a tool for political leaders to use to advance their power in their own society. Everyone falls in line when there's a war on.

This sort of brinkmanship really only makes sense if they have guarantees that the war won't actually start. Since it benefits both Trump and Khomeini to have just brinkmanship but not actual war, I think that's what will happen. Expect to see more incidents, maybe even some shooting, but no actual large-scale war. Khomeini knows Trump is in Putin's pocket and can be controlled which is why he's taking such a hawkish stance. This is all a sideshow meant to raise Trump and Khomeini's poll numbers.and stave off political revolution.
Molly Clennerfoot - Sat, 29 Jun 2019 08:42:47 EST FgCpamib No.177077 Reply
Well I had it right first but then spell check convinced me I must have it backwards because it had Khomeini but not khamenei and I figured they'd have the current guy in there not the one who was dead before spell check was even invented.
Emma Pockwill - Thu, 04 Jul 2019 06:26:11 EST F0Vk3YPv No.177199 Reply
Funny fact: IRAN is the only airforce on earth that fields the F-14 Tomcat as a combat vehicle.
Cyril Dartbury - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 16:48:27 EST UfCRrJn+ No.177231 Reply
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Yeah, Tucker has been pretty consistently anti-war ever since his show on Fox started, more so than any other mainstream TV figure I can think of:
It also doesn't seem like a position that he gets dictated from Fox, otherwise we wouldn't have buffoons like Sean Hannity shouting about how we have to destroy THE MULLAHS! during their other 23 hours of programming every day.

Why can't you just be glad about it and give Tucker some credit for it?
John Fuckingdale - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 19:09:58 EST zUO3I5ku No.177235 Reply
I quit fox news years ago. Always the same stuff, just altered BS at any given time.
Martha Mallymudge - Sat, 06 Jul 2019 22:41:41 EST Zhdk+f9U No.177240 Reply

Tucker Carlson is also a pedophile apologist, so he still gets no credit.
Fanny Fizzlemit - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 05:35:53 EST Tx4bBs8B No.177248 Reply
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He's obviously just an indoctrinated partisan hack who's merely looking for an excuse to keep indulging in left vs. right retardation as the people on top are steering us towards WW3 (and probably supports all manner of pro-pedophilia shit so long as it comes from the left), but this is what he's referring to:
Make up your own mind about it.
I'd say if Tucker genuinely thought that picrelated was what the whole thing was about, then claiming he was "defending a pedophile" is bullshit. Also, I don't base my morality on existing laws, but I gotta point out that such a marriage would be perfectly legal in e.g. Japan and Germany. But having researched Warren Jeffs a bit, he was at some point also accused of actually raping young boys, so there's that.
Sophie Sirringworth - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 16:22:52 EST +8irr0Qf No.177257 Reply
>ut having researched Warren Jeffs a bit, he was at some point also accused of actually raping young boys, so there's that.
So in other words he was right. The guy was literally defending a pedophile and now you're defending a pedophile apologist too.
Charlotte Seblinghall - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 16:31:38 EST 8pt/AtPX No.177260 Reply
>But having researched Warren Jeffs

You clearly didn't, then. You'd be aware of how fundamental Mormons LOVE forcing children to become brides to 60 year olds and how they ditch the boys on the side of the road.
Shitting Goodridge - Sun, 07 Jul 2019 17:43:31 EST 04ZkJD3Q No.177268 Reply
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fundamental Mormons are basically the Wahhabi Muslims of North America
Phineas Nozzlebury - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 02:50:59 EST 8pt/AtPX No.177277 Reply
ANY Christian denomination founded in the US LOVES them kids.
Beatrice Crorringstot - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 17:27:24 EST 3rWPy2H7 No.177312 Reply
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I like neither the LDS nor their doctrines, but waging guerilla warfare against a potentially hostile army encroaching on your own territory or assassinating other church leaders in an internal power struggle isn't comparable to flying a plane into an office building or mowing down dozens of people with a truck on a Christmas market.
Molly Bribberkag - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:08:09 EST tlilhxRg No.177321 Reply
Yes it is. You can't compare terrorism then with terrorism now.

I mean, in the Roman days, jewish radicals performed terroristic murders with knives. That's where the word "zealot" comes from.
Molly Bribberkag - Mon, 08 Jul 2019 23:10:18 EST tlilhxRg No.177322 Reply
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Kill yourself.
Edwin Sullyperk - Tue, 09 Jul 2019 21:32:39 EST mkuo11iM No.177353 Reply
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daaamn so the protoss are the futuristic jewish diaspora, it all makes sense
Rebecca Dammleway - Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:26:23 EST 1C6fBrQg No.177480 Reply
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because the guy who posted it is both enthusiastic and a moron.
Depends. Are you gay, a gambling addict or a woman who doesn't want to wear a veil? Probably not.
Otherwise, go for it once the saber-rattling from the US and Israel has been toned down, there's a lot of interesting history to the place.
Jarvis Gurringfetch - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 04:23:35 EST V96D2QCx No.177572 Reply
As been the basic rules for a lot of westerners, in many places. Don't let them know you are an American. Canadians fare far better. But being abducted, is always a possibility.
Martha Blatherridge - Sat, 20 Jul 2019 21:42:02 EST cTqHsJvI No.177580 Reply
You're a dumbass
you did ask for it, to be fair
Emma Pupperman - Sun, 21 Jul 2019 03:08:30 EST /ARn3k03 No.177586 Reply
American tourists didn't ruin Americas name internationally. The US ruined ones ability to travel without being judged. In that case Canadians and Europeans have to generally show their integrity while traveling. Hence, by not acting American-like.

Americans generally do not act or pretend to be Canadian or otherwise, because they have no real ability to do so. Canadians just merely have to be Canadians. Tourists generally are seeking lifestyles of different cultures. American or otherwise.
Thomas Duckledale - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 04:12:18 EST 2PXUaVOc No.177662 Reply
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Fun fact: 80% of National Review's editors are Jewish
Edward Brishtin - Sun, 28 Jul 2019 22:41:29 EST fDbnZ1zF No.177663 Reply
> Citations needed

100% of all editors, board members and owners at the National Review, Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg and The Economist are Bourgeois. Really makes you think.
George Sammerwog - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:36:00 EST hcXabi4m No.177689 Reply
Untrue. Only three quarters of them are bourgoeise, 15% are aristocrats, and 10% are kulaks.
Nathaniel Sunningbury - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:01:26 EST I1ioOHWp No.177699 Reply
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You know, you could've just googled the names that are on the fucking cover I posted to get an idea of the ethnicity of the people who write for that piece of trash. But then again, if you were intellectually capable of such a feat, you wouldn't be a leftist.

The National Review homepage lists the "Senior Editors" of the magazine as: Jonah Goldberg / Richard Brookhiser / Jay Nordlinger / Ramesh Ponnuru / David Pryce-Jones

According to the Times of Israel, Nordlinger is a "leading US Jewish journalist:"

Jonah Goldberg has stated that his Father was Jewish and that he was raised Jewish:

Pryce-Jones is actually from a well-known Jewish family who have intermarried with the Rothschilds:

Brookhiser is either Jewish himself or a Butt-Goy wannabe-Jew (like the insane warmonger John Bolton, see picrelated) who is really preoccupied with Jewish issues and frequently writes about Jews both on NRO and in explicitly Jewish publications like the Daily Forward:

>100% of all editors, board members and owners [...] are Bourgeois.
Yes, and also 100% of them think that the absolute worst thing in the world is National Socialism.
And they all cheered it on when super rich Jewish profiteers and Bankers like Jacob Schiff, Olof Aschborn and Israel Gelfand helped finance the Russian Revolution, and when the Zionist Rabbi Stephen Wise agitated people in the streets of New York to go to war against those powers in WW1 that were in possession of the land where he wanted to found a Jewish nation-state:

They are also virtually unanimous in their love for mass-immgration into non-Jewish countries. Even the billionaire con-man Donald Trump has publicly called for flooding the US labor market with "the highest numbers ever" of cheap workers from the third world:

And whenever workers take to the streets to protest against the mass-immigration policies instituted by the billionaires to drive down wages and drive up rent, they are terrorized and brutalized by the lowliest pawns of the system, the human garbage that willingly does the dirty work for the corrupt fucks who run our societies: Antifa.

>Really makes you think.
Indeed. But them being wealthy doesn't really explain why they're always so intent on starting wars with wars with geopolitical enemies of Israel.
Jenny Humbleshit - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 07:13:16 EST 2frQs8IP No.177757 Reply

I'm Norwegian. If you lump me into the same cathegory as the fucking Swedes I will take it as an insult.
Phoebe Somblecocke - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 10:05:42 EST +8irr0Qf No.177762 Reply
Depends on where you live Ingvar, it could be you are in fact pseudo-Swede yourself and a subject of Swedish empire.
Jenny Sinnerpodge - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:15:04 EST 2tqtMmOE No.177773 Reply
>acknowledge that Whites made grave mistakes in the past

There's no such thing as "whites". It's completely meaningless to classify people by the tone of their skin, and less than a hundred years ago we didn't. Germans were Germans, French were French, English were English, etc. etc. They never would've referred to themselves as "white". It would've been akin to calling themselves "blondes". People who were classified by the color of their skin only were black people. Because we dehumanized them as a culture. Whiteness was invented as the antithesis of that and the societal privilege associated solely with whiteness is an American invention. That's what the article is actually about, and why they're calling to "abolish" the white race. They aren't calling for genocide, they're calling rethink the concept of whiteness and what it objectively means, which is nothing.
Ebenezer Billingbury - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:30:55 EST 2frQs8IP No.177776 Reply

Thank you. Americans don't know shit about how it works in Europe, but idiots are still trying to import the WASP definition of 'White'.
Hamilton Denderson - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 21:16:28 EST fxZPTs+O No.177777 Reply
"Abolish the White Race" doesn't mean what internet nazis think it means, I don't know why they're so scared of that phrase because if they just read the full essay they'd understand that it doesn't even approximate "kill whitey" in meaning. The dude is being intentionally provocative in order to drive home the point that "whiteness" as a way of ordering our society needs to be abolished, not that individual "white" people need to be killed; he wants a society in which, paraphrasing him here, your skin tone is as important as the size of your feet.

And what about that do you really disagree with, besides his spicy rhetoric? Do you want a society like the one we live in now where your skin tone and its closeness to whiteness, or your behavior and its conformity to whiteness, partially or wholly determine your life outcomes and the way you're viewed by ordinary people? Noel Ignatiev and the other self-proclaimed race traitors are good men and women, and it would amuse me to no end that you people continue to deliberately misunderstand them except that your misunderstandings take the form of doubling down on racist ideology and death threats against Ignatiev and others.
Ebenezer Billingbury - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:49:48 EST 2frQs8IP No.177790 Reply

You mean the people living in Herjedalen, Jæmtland and Bohuslen?

The Kalmar Union was a mistake.
Simon Tillingforth - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 19:27:55 EST MkLoxbl0 No.177791 Reply
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Go complain to 23AndMe and AncestryDNA that they put Swedish and Norwegian genes both into the group "Scandinavian" because guess what, they cluster together and are much harder to tell apart than e.g. any European from any Sub-Saharan African genome.

The "race is just a social construct" crowd is like a mirror image of the Bible-thumping creationists, and every bit as dumb.

>I don't know why they're so scared of that phrase
I know, right? It's basically the same benign rhetoric that was used by his fellow tribesman Lazar Kaganovich, the friendly communist mass-murderer who did his very best to "abolish Kulaks as a class."

>Noel Ignatiev and the other self-proclaimed race traitors are good men and women
The vast majority of them are hypocritical Jewish supremacists who try to dehumanize Europeans by deconstructing our identity and spreading anti-White propaganda, while at the same time constantly stressing the importance of their own collective identity and stylizing themselves as eternal victims of everyone else in the world despite having never done anything wrong ever.
So from your perspective, sure, they're good people, but that's just because you're anti-white.
Ebenezer Billingbury - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 19:42:26 EST 2frQs8IP No.177792 Reply

Why should I even care about 23AndMe? I know my ancestry, I'm not a colonial. My father's fathers have been tilling the same soil for over a 1000 years.
Wesley Mettingway - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 19:45:10 EST E+OYvrxi No.177793 Reply
If you have a fetish for spitting in a tube it's kinda hot?
Ebenezer Billingbury - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 19:54:48 EST 2frQs8IP No.177794 Reply

That shit would'nt be acceptable where I'm from, but hey who am I to judge?

Just don't lump me in with the Swedes god almighty.
Edward Blucklewure - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:37:16 EST jva21RDW No.177798 Reply
>The "race is just a social construct" crowd is like a mirror image of the Bible-thumping creationists, and every bit as dumb.
You know it's the scientific crowd saying that race is a social construct right?
No one is arguing with ancestry, you are proving you don't understand "race as a social construct", do your research.
Basil Hillyford - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 20:42:00 EST BTW90CMI No.177799 Reply
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Yeah well, Sweden is the 2nd-most sickening society on earth (number 1 being the UK), so I totally understand not wanting to be lumped in with them.

Come to think of it, I'd actually prefer moving to Tehran over moving to London. The Swedish countryside is nice though, much fun was had there when I was a child. Just stay away from any place that has too many Swedes in one place.
Basil Hillyford - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:31:21 EST BTW90CMI No.177800 Reply
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>you don't understand "race as a social construct"
The problem with that entire line of rhetoric is that the word "race" describes objective facts of nature, i.e. that we can differentiate between different populations based on various observable characteristics. If you're going to call that a "social construct," then you can do so only if you define "social construct" in such a way that it can be applied to every single word in any human language, at which point it's meaningless to argue about.
And that's really the whole point. Pulling the "x is just a social construct" card is just a rhetorical technique to derail a discussion.

>You know it's the scientific crowd saying that race is a social construct right?
>implying "cultural anthropology" and "gender studies" are sciences
Pseudo-scientists don't count. And no, Bill Nye is not actually a scientist, much less in a field related to biology.
Those among actual biologists who publicly dismiss race as a valid concept or deny racial differences mainly do so out of fear of losing their jobs due to political reasons, like the tragically idealistic James Watson did.
If you're so confident that you can totally prove those wicked biologists and their fascist beliefs wrong, you could send a mail to Franco-Canadian neuro-biologist Jean-Francois Gariepy, I'm sure he'll gladly invite you on his youtube show and tear your arguments to pieces.
Edward Blucklewure - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:39:40 EST jva21RDW No.177801 Reply
You still prove you don't understand what it means for something to be a social construct.
Edward Blucklewure - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 21:49:43 EST jva21RDW No.177803 Reply
Should throw in a bit of an explanation. The way we categorize these 'races' is the social construct. No one is rejecting that populations in different parts of the world are going to have some genetic differences. The reason many scientists throw out the whole race as a hard line way of categorizing humans is because it's garbage and unscientific, and created from a shitty racist colonial past.
Someone who is better versed in this can correct any mistakes I made.
Basil Hillyford - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:34:29 EST BTW90CMI No.177804 Reply
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>The way we categorize these 'races' is the social construct
Again, the way we categorize races (whether it's skin color and facial anatomy or genetic clustering) is based on observable facts of nature.
Yes, this kind of categorization is based on social conventions -- as is every other type of categorization.
The fact that the racial categories we come up with and the boundaries between them will change according to the social context at any given time and place does not mean that it's not a useful concept.

>The reason many scientists throw out the whole race as a hard line way of categorizing humans is because it's [...] created from a shitty racist colonial past
There you go, socio-political reasons driving them to publicly denounce a useful concept rooted in observable biological facts, just like I said. Right up until they get leukemia and need to screen people of their own race to have a better chance at being a good match for a bone marrow transplant. Or just need to pick which neighborhood they walk through at night.

>it's garbage and unscientific
So, will any of these "scientists" also go the next logical step and stop categorizing colors? I mean, different societies are going to have different conventions on which area of picrelated is red, which is blue and which is purple, and will in fact have different categories altogether for various parts of this gradient, so let's get rid of this stupid "color" social construct, right?
Caroline Dissledock - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:36:50 EST cStNVGNu No.177805 Reply
There are two white people alive who are more different from each other than they are from the average african. The same is even more true between blacks i think.

Also, different races can't produce viable offspring when they interbreed
Basil Hillyford - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:47:45 EST BTW90CMI No.177807 Reply
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Also, I'd like to point out that the whole "The Irish weren't counted as White back in the day" talking point that Ignatiev always harps on is a lie. The US naturalization act of 1790 limited those eligible for US citizenship to "free White persons of good character," and it is a well-documented historical fact that plenty of Irishmen obtained US citizenship under that law.
Lydia Sebberridge - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:51:58 EST Br3JOJNF No.177808 Reply
Black man, white woman, black child. Black woman, white man, black child.
Basil Hillyford - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 23:15:52 EST BTW90CMI No.177809 Reply
>There are two white people alive who are more different from each other than they are from the average african
Irrelevant. You do not understand what race is.

>different races can't produce viable offspring when they interbreed
No, you're thinking of species. Races are groups within a species.

>Once again, you clearly don't understand what it is we are saying.
I do. It's just that I prove that you're full of shit at every turn. And as you tacitly admitted in >>177803 you're not exactly "well-versed" in this stuff, but nevertheless have a very strong opinion on it, as is typical for victims of indoctrination; so you keep saying that I don't understand, yet you can't really ever properly point out what exactly it is I supposedly don't understand, and you keep thinking that somewhere out there is this big smart Science Guy like Bill Nye who could totally prove me wrong if only he were here, and show everyone that your beliefs aren't just based on hot air.

here we go with the fucking pseudo-science again.
But hey, here's a link for you too:
Edward Blucklewure - Fri, 02 Aug 2019 23:21:16 EST jva21RDW No.177810 Reply
Oml, you're a race 'realist' nazi tard? You sure as hell aren't in the right to dictate what is pseudo-science and what isn't.
Cedric Dibbleterk - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 01:48:52 EST 6MAhOZM1 No.177811 Reply
What in the hell is with the sudden increase in 4chin retards coming here & spreading their shit?
Barnaby Suzzlewater - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 02:17:39 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.177812 Reply
It comes in waves. I'm guessing someone points out we're a chan that isn't alt-right every few months.
Angus Cabberbark - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 13:30:54 EST fxZPTs+O No.177822 Reply
>his fellow tribesman Lazar Kaganovich

Lol, here we go with this bullshit.

Notice how this dude doesn't respond to a single claim, immediately jumps to the anti-Semitic conspiracy theories trying to link Ignatiev, who would have been executed by Stalin, like many other Soviet Jews (including the other Jew at the center of many conspiracy theories, Leon Trotsky), to Stalin's right-hand man on account of their shared Jewishness. Well, you know, lot of good that did for Trotsky.

Of course "abolish kulaks as a class" means something entirely different and emerged in an entirely different historical context, but hey, the two phrases kinda sound alike, and Ignatiev has kinda lefty politics, so clearly what he means is "kill all the white people" even though no one in this milieu even has power over their own local left-wing reading group, let alone owns any kind of serious weaponry, or attempts to put this shit into practice other than by "deconstructing our identity and spreading anti-White propaganda".

Ignatiev, by the way, is an ardent anti-Zionist. So much for "the tribe":
>People abusing [the accusation of anti-semitism] in order to support Israel's racist and genocidal policy towards the Palestinians do nothing less than desecrate the memory of those Jewish victims, whose death is meaningful only inasmuch as it serves as an eternal warning to the human kind against all kinds of discrimination, racism, and genocide
(note: my countercurrents link lacks the hypen )
Angus Cabberbark - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 13:43:54 EST fxZPTs+O No.177823 Reply
I also just want to note how weak white identity has to be if the various writings of race traitors and Red College Professors Brainwashing Your Children Through Communist Subversion (t. John Birch) is enough to wipe it out. Jews survived genocide after genocide, the Japanese and Koreans survived bombing campaigns, traditional Chinese culture and Confucianism survived the Maoist Cultural Revolution, the pride and spirit of the American Indians remains unbroken after centuries of genocidal policy by European settlers, but white people can't survive a little "deconstruction" of white identity? Give me a break. If only it were so easy.
Barnaby Suzzlewater - Sat, 03 Aug 2019 15:06:35 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.177825 Reply
The paradox of Fascism. We're the most powerful race, the right to rule the world is in our DNA, but yet we're always been undercut by the verim who are weak, and will be brushed aside, but god damn it they keep us down, but they won't when we claim our birthright, that is being suppressed by these subhuman.... and on and on and on.
Ian Smallway - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 18:40:27 EST +8irr0Qf No.177876 Reply
>I guess race could be thought of between species and subspecies
>individuals of differentsubspeciessometimes interbreed, but they produce many sterile male offspring"
lol you guess wrong faggot read your own dam post. It would be at best between subspecies and breed, because people of different races don't produce sterile offspring.
Frederick Hoddlewell - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 03:46:02 EST 0paRZQQs No.177905 Reply
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What if i tell you that "god"(or at least the judeomuslimchristian being) was the devil all along? The freemasons call it "Jahbulon", gnostics used to call him the Demiurge.
Hannah Bullerwatch - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 04:33:57 EST hcizuTkA No.177956 Reply
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Does USA want to conquer IRAN like it did with Iraq?
Hugh Pimblefoot - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:02:48 EST M/Ws53KS No.177966 Reply

Iran has been on the US shitlist for decades, they just never had a good enough excuse.
Lydia Hollerchick - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:17:35 EST 0paRZQQs No.177968 Reply

The USA will be done if they invade Iran. If the Iraq war almost bankrupt the country (and they are arabs, the lamest fighters ever) now imagine a country with 3 times more population than Iraq, with a serious underrated army (the Persians don't fuck around, ask the USmilitary how it did against persian taliban fighters with bolt action rifles giving fancy tacticool soldiers with m4 nightmares at long range combat) and the backing of Russia.
It will take tens of trillions of dollars and decades to bring down the Iranian army and then an inevitable insurrection.
Rebecca Greengold - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:58:16 EST 5yhACa6y No.177971 Reply
>The USA will be done if they invade Iran.

Hubris never held them back before.
Henry Mebbleham - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 16:57:09 EST omiC6HKa No.178079 Reply
>bankrupt the country
That was about half of the intention of the war. To make the arms dealers rich. Funny anecdote, Saddam actually did turn out to have a large, secret stockpile of yellowcake uranium. This oddly enough, wasn't well publicized, because instead of using it for propaganda and saying "Hey look, he WAS maybe planning to weaponize this"... it was just sold off to Canada for profit.
>you done for if invade Iran
Define "invade" perhaps. The last time the US crossed swords with Iran, the entire navy of Iran was destroyed within two days, along with almost their entire capacity to wage a modern warn. This led to Iran just sending every young man they could, out as cannon fodder. Now they have a fountain of fake blood, to memorialize how many casualties they sustained in desperation, in the conflict that came after the USA had wiped out their military infrastructure in a weekend. Oh, and that's before there were drones too.
>thinking bolt action rifles are bad
You do realize that bolt action rifles, especially the ones that would be commonly found in those hands, such as the WWII models, are great sniper rifles right? You know, the ones you want to use when taking pot shots from a mountain cliff. You've never shot a firearm before, have you?
>taliban doin good
American military casualties from hostile enemy action, are under 2,000.
Taliban and friends, military casualties, are over 70,000.
You know, there's actually a higher risk of death for military personnel, when they're stationed back home in the USA, than when they are deployed in Afghanistan? They're more likely to die of car crashes and alcohol related incidents, than they are of being shot by the taliban.
Basil Murdridge - Sat, 10 Aug 2019 17:26:15 EST fxZPTs+O No.178080 Reply
>Claim: The removal of yellowcake uranium from Iraq in 2008 proved that Saddam Hussein had been trying to restart Iraq’s nuclear program.

>Status: False.

>The yellowcake removed from Iraq in 2008 was material that had long since been identified, documented, and stored in sealed containers under the supervision of U.N. inspectors. It was not a “secret” cache that was recently “discovered” by the U.S, nor had the yellowcake been purchased by Iraq in the years immediately preceding the 2003 invasion. The uranium was the remnants of decades-old nuclear reactor projects that had put out of commission many years earlier: One reactor at Al Tuwaitha was bombed by Israel in 1981, and another was bombed and disabled during Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Moreover, the fact that the yellowcake had been in Iraq since before the 1991 Gulf War was plainly stated in the Associated Press article cited in the example above:
>Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.


The thing with Afghanistan is that the US has very few boots on the ground in combat roles in Afghanistan. The US long ago started using the national Afghan army against the Taliban, and those casualties are comparable to the Taliban's. Boots on the ground in Iran would yield more American casualties than the invasion of Iraq did, since the US would, for the first time in decades, be fighting an army that can fight back, that won't just take off their uniforms and go home.
Albert Duckford - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 04:48:51 EST 04Ss6E+/ No.178258 Reply
IRAN distrusts USA. Can't say I blame them....
Emma Drudgedog - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 10:56:21 EST M/Ws53KS No.178608 Reply

Even the US shouldn't trust the US.
Fuck Blivingfere - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:32:53 EST eW7lNgCN No.178630 Reply
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Jack Smallwell - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:18:14 EST u+szhWv9 No.179140 Reply
The distance the drones had to travel is massive. Iran doesn't want anyone playing with their territory. Sounds like a money spat over oil prices from a competing refinery. US make one Korea and Iran Saudi Arabia? No. They back off, they are just players.
Frederick Fuckinggold - Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:06:27 EST P8k+zl5o No.179156 Reply
The best guess is that the drones are only supplied by Iran. The drones probably came from somewhere closer.
Nigel Dennersane - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 00:23:06 EST MvRoQ1jI No.179180 Reply
My god I hope when the war starts there's more push back and rebellion then when the Vietnam war was happening, DON'T PUSS OUT PEOPLE IN AMERICA
Eliza Madgelork - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:21:58 EST E3LrH2FB No.179193 Reply
The elites don't necessarily agree with the issues they support. The reason the globalists push smoking bans, homosexuality, feminism, wars, debt, slavery reparations, tyranny, illegal immigration, abortion, global warming, vaccines, and the minimum wage is that the ruling class wants to divide and distract the 99%.

Once the ruling powers have turned the US into a Communist country, the useful idiots who supported the elites will be lined up in front of a wall and shot.
Jack Fublingridge - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:37:01 EST v/43HpL2 No.179195 Reply
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>the useful idiots who supported the elites will be lined up in front of a wall and shot.

You're so smart! Did you read the wiki-page on the October Revolution? And Stalin's wiki-page!? Wow, you're so smart!
Oliver Blatherman - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:13:34 EST tlilhxRg No.179197 Reply
>The reason the globalists push homosexuality, feminism, slavery reparations, illegal immigration, abortion, global warming and the minimum wage is that the ruling class wants to divide and distract the 99%.

Are you fucking retarded? Those neoliberal conservative christian-taliban republicunts/democraps don't want any of that shit you fucking retarded cunt.
Hannah Murdspear - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 19:31:55 EST lUbJIr2n No.179207 Reply
Don't be fooled by Shinra!

Mako energy doesn't last forever!

Mako is the planet's life source!

The end is in sight!
Frederick Fanwell - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:10:48 EST dZDaQqJv No.179214 Reply
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>If the government fails to protect the border, Americans criticize a nonprofit that tries to construct a private border wall.

Because a wall really worked wonders for you all.
Hannah Dartwater - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:26:40 EST MvRoQ1jI No.179218 Reply
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My god, how many fuckin VPN's how this thing burned through already? Certainly there has to be a stopping point
Frederick Fanwell - Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:43:19 EST dZDaQqJv No.179219 Reply
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>Was there a minimum wage, trade war, smoking laws, and food stamps in 1910? Did Americans just starve to death in 1910?

You heard the bot, make America an Upton Sinclair novel again.
Hannah Dartwater - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 00:05:41 EST MvRoQ1jI No.179221 Reply
Henry Suckleham - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 00:35:17 EST Wn6Wgisa No.179223 Reply
We will kill the people that made you, Chinabot.
Frederick Fanwell - Thu, 19 Sep 2019 00:37:24 EST dZDaQqJv No.179224 Reply
I don't know what you're talking about, I regularly scream Canada has a population of 15 million at the top of my lungs in the faces of small children in the grocery store aisles.
Cornelius Wittingshaw - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:23:40 EST BwVqZwlk No.179339 Reply
>if the spineless EU doesn't retaliate
People seem to forget that multiple EU member states also make billions from US wars.
Cornelius Hoddlehut - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:48:44 EST LP2R8jy+ No.179340 Reply
>it'll be the last war the US ever starts
lmfao no they gonna start more than one more for sure
Priscilla Habbercocke - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 04:40:01 EST CuWQhJxF No.179444 Reply
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Tea-time for Iran. Any chance of more diplomacy?
Cedric Pickway - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:50:28 EST pnRU07cP No.179452 Reply
We don't fight wars to win them. The military is the marital arm of American economic imperialism and there is a bunch of non-petrodollar oil in the region.
Eliza Deblingwell - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:12:45 EST eXyJZ+iy No.179468 Reply
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Within the next decade, half the people in this thread will praise Trump and say war with Iran was a prudent, tough decision.
Cedric Cleddlebury - Fri, 27 Sep 2019 23:20:47 EST tlilhxRg No.179494 Reply
Trump should have been made to sleep with the fishes by a Sopranos extra looking mofo ages ago.
Alice Dollerbick - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 18:22:23 EST H3Jg1AjS No.179722 Reply
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Why does USA meddle with IRAN ?
Charlotte Mezzledig - Sat, 05 Oct 2019 20:50:20 EST HPzbNa9Y No.179728 Reply
Because Iran is direct competition for Saudi oil, while being at odds with israel and living on territory that israel wants. Since the USA is ally (IE US government is bought with israei and saudi money) with the Saudis and with Israelis, then USA meddles with Iran.
Cedric Chiddlefoot - Tue, 22 Oct 2019 12:53:48 EST tszCZv8T No.180215 Reply
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Mene mene tekel upharsin.
Augustus Cingermodging - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 11:00:54 EST eW7lNgCN No.181368 Reply

I like you, China. You might be a spammer, but you're alright. I mean, I really don't disagree with a lot of what you say. Bot or human, no difference to me, you da man. I'm going to make a point to converse with you on the regular.
Cornelius Pittbury - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 02:32:15 EST Oi89F67V No.181374 Reply
弟弟你吃饭了吗? 你的家人爱你。
Little brother have you eaten? Your family loves you. Tranquility and harmony.
Augustus Blythefield - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:56:56 EST Oi89F67V No.181453 Reply

弟弟你吃饭了吗? 你的家人爱你。
Little brother have you eaten? Your family loves you. Tranquility and harmony.
Beatrice Worthingworth - Fri, 03 Jan 2020 22:36:57 EST lej3GfJy No.181829 Reply
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When's USA's invasion of Iran? Iraq 2 Boogooloo!
Maybe Tom Cruise can borrow an Iranian F14 since Dick Cheney killed the Tomcat by defunding it.
Emma Pinkinwere - Sat, 04 Jan 2020 04:48:54 EST 40pbmk0m No.181837 Reply
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The language of Iran is Farsi and the people are (mostly) Persian. They are not Arabs and don't speak Arabic.
Walter Crullyhood - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 19:41:47 EST W5/3B9Kr No.181917 Reply

And the dumb fuck trumpers said they wont fight back. I want you cowardly fucking puke to go out there sign up to motherfucking die for your orange god, but you wont because you are the biggest pussies on earth you fucking assholes. Or just kill yourselves right now and release us of your cancerous presences you shit stains. Every single death is on you traitors
Sophie Nottingwell - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:23:15 EST mptyPuqm No.181918 Reply
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Dude if we get dragged into another decades long clusterfuck in the Middle East because of America, I'm gonna be fucking livid.

Is there any chance Canada manages to stay out of it or is NATO inadvertently gonna fuck us in the ass when Trump uses the missile strikes to call US allies?
Jack Bannerstock - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:29:32 EST +8irr0Qf No.181919 Reply
Just break your alliance. What have they ever even done for you? Except invaded you that time. Or drag you into numerous different wars
Sophie Nottingwell - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 21:45:14 EST mptyPuqm No.181920 Reply
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I mean they're far and away our biggest trading partner. If we don't answer, Trump's gonna reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee into the stratosphere and, short of attacking us, the most damage he can do in retaliation is fuck with that.

Theoretically that'd be fine but I don't know how long it'd take to draft all that shit over again once the next, hopefully sane and not mentally impaired, president takes office. Obviously I'd take a punch to the economy over sending more people to fight a somehow less valid war than any of the other ones they've dragged us into but I'm not sure our leadership would agree.
Isabella Snodfoot - Tue, 07 Jan 2020 22:19:47 EST tlilhxRg No.181921 Reply
The NATO will say "fuck you Trump."

Trump assassinated that Salami guy. Trump did. Not the American government.
Rebecca Fuvinglut - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:48:05 EST rYKOJYVd No.181928 Reply
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Because the US is a satellite state of a country that sees Iran as its top geopolitical threat.
Hannah Serringbury - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 12:44:12 EST /OAV8DIa No.181932 Reply
>Trump did. Not the American government.

"Congress endorsed Trump’s assassination and is fully as guilty as he is for having approved the Pentagon’s budget with the Senate’s removal of the amendment to the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act that Bernie Sanders, Tom Udall and Ro Khanna inserted an amendment in the House of Representatives version, explicitly not authorizing the Pentagon to wage war against Iran or assassinate its officials. When this budget was sent to the Senate, the White House and Pentagon (a.k.a. the military-industrial complex and neoconservatives) removed that constraint. That was a red flag announcing that the Pentagon and White House did indeed intend to wage war against Iran and/or assassinate its officials. Congress lacked the courage to argue this point at the forefront of public discussion."
Rebecca Fuvinglut - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 16:19:17 EST rYKOJYVd No.181933 Reply
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Russia and Iran are strategic allies. Why am I not surprised that someone who buys into the Russian election-hacking conspiracy theory (even after the boss of CNN admitted on tape that it's bullshit) doesn't know that?
Graham Pengermodging - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 16:53:01 EST E2Yofruj No.181934 Reply
>someone who buys into the Russian election-hacking conspiracy theory
That's rich coming from someone who buys into the antisemitic conspire theory of Israel controlling US politics.

It's actually the other way around, sort of... far too complicated to get into but essentially it's christian fundies garnering influence in the middle east to facilitate literally literary (yes) Armageddon.

I do not subscribe to the MSM election "hacking" theory but I do think that Trump is beholden to Putin financially and possible personable.
My spidy senses also tell me that the
>pee tape
is real.
Rebecca Fuvinglut - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:29:55 EST rYKOJYVd No.181937 Reply
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Oh, but they're so proud of it!
In fact you are the antisemite for denying and denigrating their achievements. Me, I merely acknowledge the fact that Jews (and Nazis, for that matter) are superior to ignorant NPC Goyim like you in much the same way as an adult is superior to a child.

>It's actually the other way around
Oh, so 90% of Israel's media is run by Christian Anglo-Saxons from the US while the vast majority of Israel's population is oblivious to it?
Private conversations of Israeli PM's are on record where they talk about how afraid they are of publicly mentioning the fact of American control of Israeli media?
The Americans are stealing Israeli nuclear tech and pass it on to Israel's nuclear enemies?
America lets Israeli soldiers die in shitty wars against enemies of the US in Latin America?
>far too complicated
Trust me, I know more about Christian Zionism and the type of eschatology popular in the Anglosphere than you ever will. If you ever come across someone who buys into this shit, I recommend showing him the film Marching to Zion, which aims to provide even low-IQ individuals with a decent refutation of many of the points that Zionist shitbags like John Hagee water their flock with.
>it's christian fundies garnering influence in the middle east
You're just regurgitating stupid shit told to you by Jewish apologists like Noam Chomsky and elements of the left-wing media.
This narrative is absurd on the face of it, since if Christian fundies really had that kind of power, we'd have prayer in school, homosexuality, transgenderism and abortion would be illegal, porn would be banned and non-Christians would be barred from immigrating.
But lo and behold, literally the only thing they want that gets implemented is the Israel-first foreign policy, i.e. the only common point of interest between the Bible-thumpers and the Jewish supremacists who run America's media.

Blaming Christians while it is Christian soldiers who die in these wars for Israel is also a disgusting example of victim blaming. It's similar to how the NYT accused Whites of ethnic nepotism and claimed that 19 of the 20 most influential people in Hollywood are "White," when in reality 17 of the people they listed were Jewish:

>I do think that Trump is beholden to Putin financially and possible personable.
And while you're stuck with flimsy evidence and checking for Russians under your bed, it's openly admitted and verifiable that Trump has Jewish children and grandchildren, that his Jewish son-in-law conspired with the Israelis ahead of the election, that his cabinet is disproportionately Jewish, that he kow-tows to AIPAC and the Republican Jewish Coalition at every opportunity, that he supports anti-BDS laws that make treason to America mandatory, and that virtually EVERY politician in the US is financially beholden to Jewish donors:
Sidney Sudgeford - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:00:03 EST TtOXZM/G No.181939 Reply
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It isn't bullshit. The election hacking did happen. It's just that it isn't really Russia who's been holding his leash and it isn't Russia who profits off this retard the most. Of course the level of retard pol achieves is breathtaking on an inhuman level but the average neoliberal jackass is pretty amazingly stupid too for them not to see or take note of the fact that Israel is never mentioned at all, and like someone already said Ilhan Omar got a lot of family outright racist shit from certain powerful Jews even for calling a concentration camp a concentration camp. It amazes me people had so little balls they didn't press the issue and let a bunch of right wing Zionists cow them. FYI Auschwitz was a death camp. Many of the camps either were originally concrration camps and converted to death camps or remained concentration camps. A concentration camp is simply a type of prison gulag. To actually take offense at this and turn it into a big issue was telling. So I'll say it again: America built concentration camps on American soil for Mexican children and people like Sheldon Adelson can suck on my big fat dick and choke to death in case you weren't aware Adelson is a right wing Jewish Zionist oligarch who was one of the biggest financial backers of the Trump campaign

AIPAC literally controls US foreign policy in MENA. If you do not know this you are either literally stupid or willfully ignorant. PROTIP being anti-Israel isnt being anti Jewish. This lie is something that colonialist racist rogue state likes to push incessantly and, like I said, is part of why Bernie is such a huge thorn in their side because the last thing they want to have happen is for a Jewish leftist and Socialist no less to come into office and tell Israel to get fucked and stop mistreating Palestine. It is also a well known fact that the Zionist regime likes encouraging softcore antisemitism because it justifies them by claiming victim while trying to encourage more people to claim Aaliyah. This is the same people getting into hysterics about American Jews marrying non Jews and calling it "genocide."

Sound familiar? That's because it is because they are a bunch of right wing retards and right wing retards are literally the same world over. It's their version of crying about "white genocide" because white women aren't fucking them. It's the same pathetically evil personality disorder of being a constant aggressor and when someone throws a rock back at you crying about how you're a persecuted victim. This is and always has been the modus operandi of right wing retards, and their right wing retards have a stranglehold over US Middle Eastern and North African policy. Stop kissing the asses of right wingers. Stop being such a moronic racist shithead as thinking of everything along racial lines. The Israeli regime should get fucked just like every other racist apartheid right wing government on Earth.
Sidney Sudgeford - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:07:35 EST TtOXZM/G No.181940 Reply
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And you I suspect actually are a poltard and can fuck off
I just want to say that I have never met a group of actual NPC like people than poltards. It's impossible to distinguish them from bots.

> so 90% of Israel's media is run by Christian Anglo-Saxons from the US while the vast majority of Israel's population is oblivious to it?
See this is why you and he are both shitheads. You're both being racist dumbasses and both need to fuck off. Jews=/=Israel. What the fuck does the average American or French or Argentinian Jew have to do with Israel? It's like you saying things about some mutt American plastic paddy and Ireland in the same sentence. Like what the actual fuck does some American have to do with Ireland? Is some deep South American now suddenly this Catholic cabbage eater instead of being a pickup driving ignorant as shit redneck? Does some O'Paddy in Boston automatically support the IRA? You're acting like not just the average Israeli but even worse the average Jew has to do with the right wing fuckup government of people like Bibi and Sharon, who is in hell with Hitler. And the same for you too, you fucking tool, only further fueling antisemitism by trying to equate Jews with Israeli, and trying to equate well founded criticism of Israel as if it is criticism of Jews. Stop that shit. Most American Jews dislike bullshit Israel pulls. That is part of why they live here and not in Israel. Many of the people involved in BDS are Jewish. So so far as I'm concerned, you're both antisemites. Now stop trying to make everything about race you idpol neoliberal dipshits.
Sidney Sudgeford - Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:27:11 EST TtOXZM/G No.181941 Reply
Oh one last thing before I forget though
>and his grandson is Jewsih etc
You also forgot about Breitbart. That media outlet was literally created in Israel by right wing Zionists, and Breitbart has had poltards by the balls since day 1. I find it pretty funny how you conveniently omit that one, considering Breitbart and people like Bannon were coordinating a massive propaganda campaign to get Trump elected since the very beginning
Pol creates just enough antisemitism to be satisfactory for right wing Zionists without ever being anything like a genuine threat to their agenda, but rather being active useful idiots and agents of that agenda. Get a few more synagogues vandalized, sacrifice a few possibly leftist American Jews, and presto you've got ammo for the next five years against "antisemites" who you can tie into the Israeli gov platform, have more ways to convince Jews of the necessity of not just Israel and possibly moving there but more importantly of backing the current regime, and silencing any general criticism of Israel by trying to call everyone antisemites while most importantly fighting and silencing leftist Jews. This has been true of every right wing government's tactics, and they always do this while exploiting most of their own people. This is how every right wing racist thinks and operates. The last thing they ever want you to say or think is "I'd love Israel if only it got rid of rightards and became leftist." What israel needs is what the world needs and that is more leftist governments.
Esther Disslechene - Thu, 09 Jan 2020 04:37:12 EST BzMvU5uV No.181945 Reply
Iran has more counter-measures ready to be deployed?
(Hey boys and girls is this your frisbee?) - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:39:13 EST CtDMJRHo No.181963 Reply
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Canada touched me in my bathing suit places. And that's why we don't have nice things.
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(Hey boys and girls is this your frisbee?) - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:59:01 EST 8Due3mq5 No.181965 Reply
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Priscilla Gugglekig - Sat, 11 Jan 2020 06:23:26 EST sJry4BMQ No.181971 Reply
What wound? This happens in war. Fuck all the war pigs. Don't give any of them a pass.
Ebenezer Cindleshaw - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 21:04:51 EST Z5euprJT No.182007 Reply
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You want.. prayer? In school? Are you a fucking fag? Why the fuck would you want to force that nonsense down kids throats and not let them think for themselves? Its intellectual slavery.

You want to make porn illegal? Are you on fucking bath salts? Why?

And wtf is wrong with homosexuality? For someone who seems to love America you sure seem to hate freedom a lot. If you value homophobia as a virtue youre no better than the bigoted rap groups I assume you can't stand. And before your retard ass says its 100% a choice, no, they actually invented a machine that can detect if you're gay or straight with over 80% accuracy using facial recognition technology with a single picture. They're born that way, its genetic to the extent that they even actually subtly look different from straights. And if you think homosexuality would be illegal in the US if Israel didn't manipulate our lawmakers, why is it legal almost everywhere else in the world? "White American Christians" would push the exact same pro-diversity shit if they controlled the American media. Youre not winning a single friend on this board with your cartoonishly level conservative attitude.

Your links and picture were good. As was pointing out Trump as a Shabbos Goy. But fucktard lowlifes like yourself make all us good agreeable people with legitimate criticisms of Israel look like brainless scumbags. Just fuck off and die.
Barnaby Beckletedging - Sun, 12 Jan 2020 22:04:05 EST nrG71I6n No.182009 Reply
Why don't you calm yourself and stop responding to bait.

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