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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Kashmir siege in India threatens genocide, start to WWIII

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- Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:56:39 EST TxpuvBgJ No.178619
File: 1566687399823.jpg -(223421B / 218.18KB, 720x929) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Kashmir siege in India threatens genocide, start to WWIII
India's pseudo-fascist BJP government has been sending thousands of soldiers into Kashmir, the border region with Pakistan at the root of much of their regional conflict. They ordered journalists out of the region and cut off communication with the outside.

Kashmir is home to millions of Muslims and has been under a special administrative status ever since instability caused by the partition of British India. The Indian government has revoked this special status as part of this military action. Some right-wing Indians are hoping the siege will be a "final solution" for India's Muslims.

If the situation gets worse, Pakistan could get involved and hostilities between the two countries could ignite. Both are nuclear-armed nations with over a billion people in the potential crossfire.

Coporate media is mostly silent:
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/05/india-kashmir-autonomy-status/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/india-revokes-kashmir-special-status-latest-updates-190806134011673.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/14/narendra-modi-kashmir-hindu-first-india-autonomy
https://globalnews.ca/news/5809277/india-pakistan-journalists-kashmir-opposition/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/19/kash-a19.html
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Sophie Sigglewill - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 19:09:08 EST QgwvDyjp No.178621 Reply
Yesterday some opposition politicians tried to fly in to speak to Kashmiri leaders and appraise the situation on the ground, they were arrested at the airport and shuttled onto the next available flight back to Delhi

https://www.dawn.com/news/1501405/indias-top-opposition-leaders-sent-back-from-occupied-kashmir-after-landing-in-srinagar

This is actual death of democracy territory, the BJP are an arm of the RSS, the Hindu nationalist paramilitaries who assassinated Ghandi, and are literal fascists, founded in WWII by Italian and German influenced nationalist intellectuals.
Then again Indian democracy survived Indira Gandhi ruling under martial law for three years, and Modi hasn't gone that far yet.
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Sophie Tillingdock - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:03:35 EST d0EgzCzx No.178638 Reply
I understand, China supports Pakistan and that's why we suddenly get anit-Indian threads.
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Basil Pushpodging - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:21:43 EST MvRoQ1jI No.178651 Reply
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India and china are both kind of hellworlds honestly, so I don't really know who to support here but I do feel bad for the people about to get mangled because these two countries can literally never agree on anything
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Basil Pushpodging - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:22:47 EST MvRoQ1jI No.178652 Reply
>>178651
>China
Woops I meant pakistan, NB for being a retard
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Lydia Snoddale - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 07:12:21 EST E2Yofruj No.178653 Reply
From what I've learned about the topic statehood independent of either India or Pakistan is the most popular option among Kashmir residents.
And among moderates (Muslims or Hindus that weren't radicalized by propaganda of either rival) it's common knowledge that attacks are funded by the opposing sides.

Isn't that what the UN "blue helmet" troops are supposed to be for?
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Matilda Drongerlock - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:56:37 EST QgwvDyjp No.178655 Reply
>>178651
>>178638
Even with their close Chinese ties the USA is Pakistan's main foreign backer still, meanwhile Russia is India's largest ally and arms supplier
Meanwhile regardless of whatever propaganda war might be happening India is run by a fascist paramilitary and have turned Kashmir into an open air prison.

The only reason people support India in the first place is the west in general not knowing anything about anything and just picking a side based on religion, hippie propaganda, or nostalgia for empire and an aversion to smaller nation states.

India's basic justification for getting Kashmir invalidates their invasion and annexation of Hyderabad, plain and simply they've been the aggressor in the situation for 70 years
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Cedric Semmleford - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 15:16:17 EST bmCHYw4U No.178657 Reply
What gets me is Kashmir doesn't seem like much of a prize.
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Alice Crebberwell - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:28:51 EST AhvFjFWT No.178660 Reply
>>178657
Its because they are muslim and have a history of home grown freedom fighters AKA terrorists.
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Alice Crebberwell - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:31:58 EST AhvFjFWT No.178661 Reply
>>178660
Forgot to add that the biggest change this whole thing makes is that Indian (hindu) nationals are allowed to purchase land there now.
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Hedda Blucklehood - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:37:26 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.178662 Reply
>>178661
Which is like 80% Mountains and Glaciers.

Nationalism is rarely logical. The main drive is distract from how quickly BJP out corrupted the old Congress party. Killing Muslims and fucking Pakistan is a nice side benefit.
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Graham Sonderdudging - Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:48:23 EST k4enMT4C No.178689 Reply
So is Pakistan going to do anything about this or will they just let it go?
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Ernest Ninderstuck - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:05:53 EST 1p/Z1UFG No.178787 Reply
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Pak vs Ind.
Round 99
FIGHT!
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Cedric Pummletatch - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 21:39:08 EST fmOwY7ul No.178791 Reply
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>>178689
Nothing will happen, because nothing ever happens between Pakistan and India.

WEBM very much related
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Edwin Bunforth - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 10:12:03 EST fmOwY7ul No.178832 Reply
>>178820
Theoretically? Sure.
Realistically? No.

It's all pointless saber-waving.
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Simon Gurrylack - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 23:22:19 EST GYsJBwcY No.178881 Reply
>>178657
Kashmir is a huge prize on a geopolitical level. Setting aside glaciers and its vast untapped mineral riches, the region serves as a central entrepot for the southern tail of the ancient Silk Road and a key region in China's Belt and Road initiative today. Controlling Kashmir means controlling a significant flow route for Eastern goods in Western markets and the opportunity to enact protectionist measures that stem the flow of competing (i.e. Chinese) goods into the greater Eurasia-Africa superregion. The region has always had great value in history for this reason. The Anglo-Sikh wars were fought partially due to the sheer trade power owning the Indus estuary allowed the British.
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Eliza Greenridge - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:14:29 EST Li5vzU6q No.178934 Reply
>>178619
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kashmiri-boys-in-hiding-as-indian-troops-round-them-up-in-their-homes-5mbvg3vd7
>Kashmiri boys taken by Indian army in the night

For context, mass graves filled with thousands of corpses, including women and children, have been a thing in Kashmir for years already. Mass graves have been identified all over Kashmir by human right activists believed to contain bodies of thousands of Kashmiris of enforced disappearances.

Indian security forces have been implicated in many reports for enforced disappearances of thousands of Kashmiris whereas the security forces deny having their information and/or custody. This is often in association with torture or extrajudicial killing. The extent of male disappearances has been so large that a new term "half-widows" has been created for their wives who end up with no information of their husbands' whereabouts. Human right activists estimate the number of disappeared to be over eight thousand, last seen in government detention.

And now Modi seems to have made those disappearances official mask-off policy.
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Betsy Settingpotch - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:29:42 EST 83O9eRP/ No.179105 Reply
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Why can't the Indians & Pakis get along?
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Oliver Bunman - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:32:34 EST dZDaQqJv No.179108 Reply
>>179105
Them fighting is a feature, not a bug.

An antiquated feature that's a relic of the Cold War but a feature none the less. Before partisan it was a single country, after when the Brits left it was thought that India would go communist. That's why the Pakistani military is modeled after the British military, all the first military leaders were former British Indian Army officers and also why the military holds so much political power in Pakistan to this day. The actual root of the word "Pakistan" is a military acronym for Punjab, Afghana, Kashmir, Indus, Sind and Baluchistan (they use the last 3 letters with that one instead of the first like the others), with the commonly accepted contemporary meaning "Pure land" coming after the acronym was already in use.
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Emma Debbletot - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:30:46 EST 83O9eRP/ No.179115 Reply
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Militaries have an opportunity cost. That's economics 101. Diplomacy is preferable.
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Shitting Singerlock - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:22:41 EST tlilhxRg No.179131 Reply
>>179130
Shit, Steve Bannon still looking like a cleaned up alcoholic hobo.
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Martha Cingerstock - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:23:08 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.179132 Reply
>>179130
I'm honestly impressed how much time this low rent James Bond villein gets for as little he's actually done in his life.

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