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Kashmir siege in India threatens genocide, start to WWIII

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- Sat, 24 Aug 2019 18:56:39 EST TxpuvBgJ No.178619
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India's pseudo-fascist BJP government has been sending thousands of soldiers into Kashmir, the border region with Pakistan at the root of much of their regional conflict. They ordered journalists out of the region and cut off communication with the outside.

Kashmir is home to millions of Muslims and has been under a special administrative status ever since instability caused by the partition of British India. The Indian government has revoked this special status as part of this military action. Some right-wing Indians are hoping the siege will be a "final solution" for India's Muslims.

If the situation gets worse, Pakistan could get involved and hostilities between the two countries could ignite. Both are nuclear-armed nations with over a billion people in the potential crossfire.

Coporate media is mostly silent:
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/05/india-kashmir-autonomy-status/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/india-revokes-kashmir-special-status-latest-updates-190806134011673.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/14/narendra-modi-kashmir-hindu-first-india-autonomy
https://globalnews.ca/news/5809277/india-pakistan-journalists-kashmir-opposition/
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/19/kash-a19.html
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Sophie Sigglewill - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 19:09:08 EST QgwvDyjp No.178621 Reply
Yesterday some opposition politicians tried to fly in to speak to Kashmiri leaders and appraise the situation on the ground, they were arrested at the airport and shuttled onto the next available flight back to Delhi

https://www.dawn.com/news/1501405/indias-top-opposition-leaders-sent-back-from-occupied-kashmir-after-landing-in-srinagar

This is actual death of democracy territory, the BJP are an arm of the RSS, the Hindu nationalist paramilitaries who assassinated Ghandi, and are literal fascists, founded in WWII by Italian and German influenced nationalist intellectuals.
Then again Indian democracy survived Indira Gandhi ruling under martial law for three years, and Modi hasn't gone that far yet.
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Sophie Tillingdock - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:03:35 EST d0EgzCzx No.178638 Reply
I understand, China supports Pakistan and that's why we suddenly get anit-Indian threads.
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Basil Pushpodging - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:21:43 EST MvRoQ1jI No.178651 Reply
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India and china are both kind of hellworlds honestly, so I don't really know who to support here but I do feel bad for the people about to get mangled because these two countries can literally never agree on anything
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Basil Pushpodging - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:22:47 EST MvRoQ1jI No.178652 Reply
>>178651
>China
Woops I meant pakistan, NB for being a retard
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Lydia Snoddale - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 07:12:21 EST E2Yofruj No.178653 Reply
From what I've learned about the topic statehood independent of either India or Pakistan is the most popular option among Kashmir residents.
And among moderates (Muslims or Hindus that weren't radicalized by propaganda of either rival) it's common knowledge that attacks are funded by the opposing sides.

Isn't that what the UN "blue helmet" troops are supposed to be for?
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Matilda Drongerlock - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:56:37 EST QgwvDyjp No.178655 Reply
>>178651
>>178638
Even with their close Chinese ties the USA is Pakistan's main foreign backer still, meanwhile Russia is India's largest ally and arms supplier
Meanwhile regardless of whatever propaganda war might be happening India is run by a fascist paramilitary and have turned Kashmir into an open air prison.

The only reason people support India in the first place is the west in general not knowing anything about anything and just picking a side based on religion, hippie propaganda, or nostalgia for empire and an aversion to smaller nation states.

India's basic justification for getting Kashmir invalidates their invasion and annexation of Hyderabad, plain and simply they've been the aggressor in the situation for 70 years
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Cedric Semmleford - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 15:16:17 EST bmCHYw4U No.178657 Reply
What gets me is Kashmir doesn't seem like much of a prize.
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Alice Crebberwell - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:28:51 EST AhvFjFWT No.178660 Reply
>>178657
Its because they are muslim and have a history of home grown freedom fighters AKA terrorists.
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Alice Crebberwell - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:31:58 EST AhvFjFWT No.178661 Reply
>>178660
Forgot to add that the biggest change this whole thing makes is that Indian (hindu) nationals are allowed to purchase land there now.
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Hedda Blucklehood - Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:37:26 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.178662 Reply
>>178661
Which is like 80% Mountains and Glaciers.

Nationalism is rarely logical. The main drive is distract from how quickly BJP out corrupted the old Congress party. Killing Muslims and fucking Pakistan is a nice side benefit.
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Graham Sonderdudging - Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:48:23 EST k4enMT4C No.178689 Reply
So is Pakistan going to do anything about this or will they just let it go?
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Ernest Ninderstuck - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:05:53 EST 1p/Z1UFG No.178787 Reply
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Pak vs Ind.
Round 99
FIGHT!
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Cedric Pummletatch - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 21:39:08 EST fmOwY7ul No.178791 Reply
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>>178689
Nothing will happen, because nothing ever happens between Pakistan and India.

WEBM very much related
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Edwin Bunforth - Sun, 01 Sep 2019 10:12:03 EST fmOwY7ul No.178832 Reply
>>178820
Theoretically? Sure.
Realistically? No.

It's all pointless saber-waving.
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Simon Gurrylack - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 23:22:19 EST GYsJBwcY No.178881 Reply
>>178657
Kashmir is a huge prize on a geopolitical level. Setting aside glaciers and its vast untapped mineral riches, the region serves as a central entrepot for the southern tail of the ancient Silk Road and a key region in China's Belt and Road initiative today. Controlling Kashmir means controlling a significant flow route for Eastern goods in Western markets and the opportunity to enact protectionist measures that stem the flow of competing (i.e. Chinese) goods into the greater Eurasia-Africa superregion. The region has always had great value in history for this reason. The Anglo-Sikh wars were fought partially due to the sheer trade power owning the Indus estuary allowed the British.
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Eliza Greenridge - Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:14:29 EST Li5vzU6q No.178934 Reply
>>178619
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kashmiri-boys-in-hiding-as-indian-troops-round-them-up-in-their-homes-5mbvg3vd7
>Kashmiri boys taken by Indian army in the night

For context, mass graves filled with thousands of corpses, including women and children, have been a thing in Kashmir for years already. Mass graves have been identified all over Kashmir by human right activists believed to contain bodies of thousands of Kashmiris of enforced disappearances.

Indian security forces have been implicated in many reports for enforced disappearances of thousands of Kashmiris whereas the security forces deny having their information and/or custody. This is often in association with torture or extrajudicial killing. The extent of male disappearances has been so large that a new term "half-widows" has been created for their wives who end up with no information of their husbands' whereabouts. Human right activists estimate the number of disappeared to be over eight thousand, last seen in government detention.

And now Modi seems to have made those disappearances official mask-off policy.
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Betsy Settingpotch - Fri, 13 Sep 2019 19:29:42 EST 83O9eRP/ No.179105 Reply
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Why can't the Indians & Pakis get along?
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Oliver Bunman - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 02:32:34 EST dZDaQqJv No.179108 Reply
>>179105
Them fighting is a feature, not a bug.

An antiquated feature that's a relic of the Cold War but a feature none the less. Before partisan it was a single country, after when the Brits left it was thought that India would go communist. That's why the Pakistani military is modeled after the British military, all the first military leaders were former British Indian Army officers and also why the military holds so much political power in Pakistan to this day. The actual root of the word "Pakistan" is a military acronym for Punjab, Afghana, Kashmir, Indus, Sind and Baluchistan (they use the last 3 letters with that one instead of the first like the others), with the commonly accepted contemporary meaning "Pure land" coming after the acronym was already in use.
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Emma Debbletot - Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:30:46 EST 83O9eRP/ No.179115 Reply
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Militaries have an opportunity cost. That's economics 101. Diplomacy is preferable.
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Shitting Singerlock - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:22:41 EST tlilhxRg No.179131 Reply
>>179130
Shit, Steve Bannon still looking like a cleaned up alcoholic hobo.
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Martha Cingerstock - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 18:23:08 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.179132 Reply
>>179130
I'm honestly impressed how much time this low rent James Bond villein gets for as little he's actually done in his life.
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Cyril Hezzleforth - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 16:10:43 EST St28rxXZ No.179296 Reply
>>178619
Interesting, weird shit:
https://theintercept.com/2019/09/21/howdy-modi-trump-anders-brevik/
>But where did Breivik himself draw inspiration from? It probably won’t shock you to hear that he name-checked a range of conservative and far-right commentators from the U.S. and the U.K. in his rambling and racist manifesto. But it might surprise you to discover that this modern icon of white nationalist terrorism also mentioned India, and in particular Hindu nationalism, on a “remarkable 102 pages” of his 1,518-page screed.

>Breivik calls on his “Hindu Nationalist brothers” to “rise up” against the Muslim conquerors of India, and extols Hindu nationalist groups because “they dominate the streets” and “do not tolerate the current injustice and often riot and attack Muslims when things get out of control.” However, he complains, “this behaviour is nonetheless counterproductive.”

>“Instead of attacking the Muslims,” he continues, “they should target the category A and B traitors in India and consolidate military cells and actively seek the overthrow of the cultural Marxist government.”

>For Breivik, it is essential that far-right, Islamophobic movements in Europe and India “learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible” because “our goals are more or less identical.” He even provides a list of online resources for his readers — and it includes the website of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh among them.

>The RSS is a far-right, male-only paramilitary volunteer organization, founded in India in 1925. Breivik may have been lauding the RSS in 2011; but back in the 1920s and 1930s, the founders of the RSS were heaping praise on Europe’s far-right, totalitarian regimes — from Mussolini’s fascists in Italy to Hitler’s Nazis in Germany.
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Phoebe Brooklock - Wed, 25 Sep 2019 04:13:42 EST Y1ODH+fU No.179387 Reply
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Come on, fight. I wanna see some big hits.
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Lillian Wongerville - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:39:52 EST GW1axdWk No.180261 Reply
>>178619
Hopefully this ends up backfiring on Modi:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/day-story-kashmir-changed-191024074602559.html
>On October 22, the US House Subcommittee on Asia held an historic hearing on Human Rights in Asia. While the hearing covered human rights concerns in Sri Lanka, Pakistan and the Indian state of Assam, the bulk of the discussion was on the ongoing siege in Indian-occupied Kashmir. It was the first time so much attention had been devoted to Kashmir in the US Congress.

>Witnesses were able to highlight the immense amount of state repression in Kashmir, and not just after August 5. Amnesty International's representative, Francisco Bencosme, spoke of the detentions, the lack of press freedoms and the worrying attacks on religious freedom in India. Members of Congress asked difficult questions about the justification for the communications blockade. As Susan Wild, a representative from Pennsylvania, stated: "To me, if there is no transparency, there is something that is being hidden." Expert scholars on Kashmir, including Nitasha Kaul and Angana Chatterji, spoke about the rise of Hindu majoritarianism and its relationship to Nazism, as well as the prevalence of enforced disappearances, rape, extrajudicial killings and torture in Kashmir.

>Hundreds of cities around the world have held protests, vigils, marches and teach-ins. People who might have never heard of Kashmir before August 5 are now mobilised and want to take action. Progressive and interfaith coalitions are becoming aware of the links between Kashmir and other anti-fascist, anti-colonial, anti-occupation and anti-war struggles around the world.

>Most importantly, however, India's miscalculation has managed to highlight the right to Kashmiri self-determination, and the realisation that Kashmir is indeed a disputed territory awaiting a political resolution.
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Polly Pittshaw - Fri, 25 Oct 2019 20:12:34 EST 1uzFtkLX No.180352 Reply
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>>179387
Pretty sure we would all die if that happened.

So what I'm saying is, I agree. End this stupid species already.
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Molly Lightlock - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:39:20 EST qFtXSnUb No.180386 Reply
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>>180352
Hey, i actually like this stupid species.

Sure we are insane, neurotic and have created a world that is so far from our natural state that we are literally playing with armegedon.

Enjoy the ride baby, don't be so depressed, it's all pretty fucking weird when you think about it
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Molly Lightlock - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:42:53 EST qFtXSnUb No.180387 Reply
>>180352
Also, tedtalk is pretty much "buy my newbook"talk, i have no idea who he is and it sounds pretty wrong anyway. Nukes have a terrifying power, but the world is pretty fucking huge and we're not talking about the USA or Russia, you wouldn't notice it until it's on the news.
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William Fengerkine - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:15:59 EST tlilhxRg No.180389 Reply
>>180387
Nuclear war between Pakistan and India would in fact cause famine and all due to all the smoke.

Massive amounts of smoke ruining crops would happen in a nuclear war between the USA and Russia too, but so many people would die in the war that there wouldn't be too much famine in the aftermath.
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Molly Lightlock - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 18:30:14 EST qFtXSnUb No.180390 Reply
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>>180389
Depends how many warheads get dropped during that nuclear war. Because, again the world is huge and creating a world wide famine with nukes might actually be hard. Sure the explosions are huge and the damages unimaginable, but world wide famine might be a bit of a stretch, throwing enough smoke in the air to cool down the earth significantly.takes a lot of energy. And famine =! Everyone dying.

Any way nukes are bad and should be exploded just above earth in space so we can have the coolest fireworks ever.

seriously fuck nukes
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Martha Ballermag - Sat, 26 Oct 2019 19:16:54 EST QgwvDyjp No.180391 Reply
Are you guys all forgetting India and Pakistan have been to war multiple times since getting nukes without using them, they both have defensive nuclear doctrines, realistically they'd only get fired if India launches a full scale invasion of Pakistan that reaches Islamabad

Plenty of wiggle room for a full scale shooting war before it gets to that
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Edward Pebberridge - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:17:34 EST 8dG5o/L4 No.180400 Reply
>>180391
>country run by nationalist right wing retards
>vs Islamic reactionary theocratic state
Your optimism is misplaced and delusional. Men like that are willing to fire for any reason, including if their ego is threatened or they're losing reelection. Also it really wouldnt make sense to deploy nuclear weapons if they're about to storm your capital because who the fuck are you even firing at? Your own soil???

The main military use of a smaller yield tac nuke is wiping out armored divisions, not to mention vaporizing factories, bases, and arms depots. If the capital itself is about to fall then it's all over. The most dangerous time is when a full invasion is being pressed because that is right when it makes most sense to hit them before they're too far into your own territory, since you kind of want to avoid actively using nuclear weapons on your soul.

The Russian and NATO Cold War doctrine was pretty similar as I would imagine it to be in India/Pakistan except they're both basically the same country with two competing religions and located in the same space. NATO doctrine was to vaporize invading Russian tank columns along a Western European corridor to halt their advance. Russian doctrine was possibly using these more liberally to knock out strategic positions ahead of an armored advance, or at least it remained this way until deep into the Cold War where everyone eventually realized it'd be disastrous and that anybody firing a single nuke was liable to trigger full nuclear commitment thus shifting the theatre from Europe and the Pacific to US and Russian cities almost immediately.

Interestingly the Russians fully believed they could survive a nuclear war and they built numerous huge underground shelters. This is why the Metro games exist, because Russia was trying to save it's own people while nuking everyone else. NATO and the Americans meanwhile took no precautions whatsoever in trying to protect their civilian population and only built a few underground bunkers for their rich elites and military/political high command. They did not expect their country to survive nuclear war.
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Edward Pebberridge - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 09:26:43 EST 8dG5o/L4 No.180401 Reply
>>180400
Oh and I also find this very telling about the two different mentalities of these empires
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb
>Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory director Harold Brown and Soviet General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev both described neutron bombs as a "capitalist bomb", because it was designed to destroy people while preserving property.[33][34][need quotation to verify]
https://io9.gizmodo.com/though-it-seems-crazy-now-the-neutron-bomb-was-intende-1636604514

Soviets called it the Capitalist bomb pretty soon after coming out although what neither is willing to say is it would still cause catastrophic fallout and immediate area damage. Still pretty funny to me though that the West basically developed a nuclear weapon designed more to kill people and steal their shit, while the Russians focused on killing larger and larger numbers of people indiscriminately with things like Tsar Bomba (this was largely due to Soviet inaccuracy in their weapon systems so they needed a bigger bomb to level everything around it in case it missed).
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Lydia Claygold - Sun, 27 Oct 2019 12:02:53 EST gjEAcvaM No.180404 Reply
>>180400
If you think ideology driven politics actually drives war then you're about 50 years too late. The causes of war and the foundations for peace are a lot more complex than this.
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Ernest Blackleman - Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:21:31 EST DnQ32w8b No.180425 Reply
>>180404
Wars are a cowardly escape from the problems of peace.
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Jack Pendleshit - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:24:56 EST tszCZv8T No.180452 Reply
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India and Pakistan have been at each other's throats since they became countries. Yet another victim of the Brits combination of divide et impera and haphazardly drawing lines on maps. Onion archive footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR2MQ8VGgd0
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Polly Mubblefield - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:47:39 EST WpF0YqnK No.180454 Reply
>>180452
Is that the history of India and Pakistan that you were taught in school? What country is teaching it that way?
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Augustus Fongerspear - Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:06:21 EST 4scaaRdR No.180457 Reply
>>180452
i always thought a lot of the blame fell on that one guy jinnah for refusing a united hindustan and rallying a lot of support for independence and religious segregation
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Nell Wottinghood - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:04:30 EST UkjoDiuV No.180478 Reply
>>180454
Yeah that is a pretty bizarre take. Muslims invaded, conquered and slaughtered millions of Indians over a few centuries. An entire religion (Sikhism) was formed to resist them. Yet according to this guy, they are only "at each others throats" because the British were "haphazardly drawing lines on maps".
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Ebenezer Sobblestone - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:39:45 EST i4Zbp03Y No.180481 Reply
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>>178619
>instability caused by brittish
So the brittish imported a hostile foreign religious and ethnic group to Kashmir? Do you even know what the bastard genocidal Mughals were? You know, the ones who force Sharia law on the native population, destroy buddhist and sikh temples whenever they can get away with it, and murder FUCKING BABIES in front of their mothers, to attempt forced conversions?

Pakistan and the arab populations that are occupying Kashmir, can go fuck off to China, let's see how they put up with this shit.
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Sidney Gavingnatch - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:58:11 EST GW1axdWk No.180485 Reply
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>>180481
It sure is weird how you removed the "partition" part of that quote to go on your weird irrelevant rant about some shit from hundreds of years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India
>The partition of India in 1947 was the division of British India into two independent states, India and Pakistan.

>The partition displaced between 10–12 million people along religious lines, creating overwhelming refugee crises in the newly constituted dominions; there was large-scale violence, with estimates of loss of life accompanying or preceding the partition disputed and varying between several hundred thousand and two million. The violent nature of the partition created an atmosphere of hostility and suspicion between India and Pakistan that plagues their relationship to the present.
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David Mambleneg - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 18:42:27 EST ynFQj7sp No.180495 Reply
>>180485
>blaming new independent Indian government with genocide
>Times of London, 1948
Very accurate and unbiased source. Did you know, Russia bombed also bombed Highway of Death in Iraq? Russia also massacred Vietnamese civilians in My Lai. True story USA gaming company told me so.
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Sidney Gavingnatch - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 19:37:54 EST GW1axdWk No.180502 Reply
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>>180495
>comparing the well-known historical facts of the Partitiion of India and the Jammu Massacre to a Call of Duty game
I'm going to assume that you wandered in from Hindutva Facebook or something because nobody who speaks English as a first language would think that weak-ass shit would work.
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Ernest Grandwill - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:13:30 EST fSlq9ETD No.180504 Reply
>>180502
I'm saying, perhaps you should find better source than British empire state propaganda immediately after colony successfully gains independence through national resistance movement? Might as well be posting US propaganda about terrorists at such point. I have not seen evidence. I have seen propaganda from imperialism about how India is bad when under Indian and Hindu management instead of Britsh. Or we can discuss British terrorism of third world after all.
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Rebecca Cremmlenork - Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:35:51 EST GW1axdWk No.180510 Reply
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>>180504
> I have not seen evidence.
Bullshit, there's no way you're this emotionally invested in this argument while simultaneously never having heard of this universally accepted historical event that somebody just told you about and you could have easily googled. You would have to be stupid on an astronomical scale for that to be true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Jammu_massacres
>After the Partition of India, during October–November 1947 in the Jammu region of the prpimpy state of Jammu and Kashmir, many Muslims were massacred and others driven away to West Punjab. The killings were carried out by extremist Hindus and Sikhs, aided and abetted by the forces of Maharaja Hari Singh. The activists of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) played a key role in planning and executing the riots. An estimated 20,000–100,000 Muslims were massacred. Subsequently, many non-Muslims, estimated as over 20,000, were massacred by Pakistani tribesmen and soldiers, in the Mirpur region of today's Pakistani administered Kashmir. Many Hindus and Sikhs were also massacred in the Rajouri area of Jammu division.

You've apparently already denied the existence of the Partition of India, so please, go ahead and deny this one, too. Please go ahead and explain your /tinfoil/ plot about how Google, Wikipedia, and the historical profession as a whole is making up historical events out of wholecloth to slander your precious Modi or whatever.
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Samuel Blatherspear - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 00:48:57 EST +8irr0Qf No.180516 Reply
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>>180510
>Soon after British India's independence, a rebellion occurred in Poonch and Mirpur districts, and the Pakistani Army conceived a military plan to invade Jammu and Kashmir. The military campaign was said to be code-named "Operation Gulmarg", which was said to be assisted and guided by British military officers.[1]

>Before the Kashmir War in 1947, the Mirpur District had about 75,000 Hindu and Sikhs, amounting to 20 percent of the population. A great majority of them lived in the principal towns of Mirpur, Kotli and Bhimber. Refugees from Jhelum in Western Punjab had taken refuge in Mirpur town, causing the non-Muslim population to increase to 25,000.[2]

>During the war, militants entered the city on the morning of November 25 and set several parts of the city on fire, causing chaos and turmoil across the city. Large-scale rioting took place. Of the minority population, only about 2,500 Hindus or Sikhs escaped to the Jammu and Kashmir along with the State troops. The remainder were marched to Alibeg, where a gurdwara was converted into a prison camp, but the raiders killed 10,000 of the captives along the way and abducted 5,000 women. Only about 5,000 made it to Alibeg, but they continued to be killed at a gradual pace by the captors. Hindu and Sikh women were raped and abducted. Many number of women committed mass suicide by consuming poison before falling into the hands of the militants, to avoid rape and abduction. Men also committed suicide. The estimates measure the death toll at over 20,000.[3][2][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]
Anglos arming, funding, and encouraging ISIS tier militants as usual.
I will not get into such things, but one wonders why every country no matter where they are, Muslims act like violent caravan raiders eventually raping and pillaging, terrorizing villagers, making sex slaves of women. One wonders, why in Africa Boko Haram, why in Srbija, why in Pakistan, why in whole Middle East, why Indonesia, why Churkas in Dagestan act such ways. It is almost as if they following ideology of violent conquest.

At any such rate, I shown you how Anglo empire was encouraging such things, and using propaganda against newly independent Hindu nation from Britain despite their sabotage efforts. So, one wonders why you blindly trust Anglo telling of events and not any other perspective.
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Rebecca Cremmlenork - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 02:40:11 EST GW1axdWk No.180518 Reply
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>>180516
Just to be sure, you are actually staking your claim as a Jammu Massacre truther?

Because if we're going to get into another argument here I just want to make it clear that you're doing so here as That Guy who believes Universities and Historians are part of some conspiracy to make [insert religious minority year that white conservatives tend to hate] look more sympathetic than you think they deserve.

So just to be clear. You're actually going to take the position of denying a historical event in which a religious minorty that you personally dislike were killed unjustly? You're coming out as one of those "other chan" type of guys?
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Shit Becklespear - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:05:33 EST RzBXYqIb No.180519 Reply
>>180516
Doesn't it tickle some tripswitch somewhere in your monkey brain how all this clickbait style history-based fiction you've been consuming has a very defined and specific political slope to it?
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Angus Fittingman - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:07:37 EST L3zo7DjP No.180523 Reply
>>180516
Oh look, the guy who loves fagbashing and Bible quotes also wants to Just Ask Questions about how evil Muslims are.

What a shock. Nb.
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Ernest Grandwill - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:36:18 EST fSlq9ETD No.180532 Reply
>>180523
I have never "fagbasher" does this word mean attacking homosexuals? Pretty funny you say, oh look at hatred of gay and Islam in same sentence when USA probably need asylum to every gay in Islamic countries because they face death penalty or other horrible dates. Trying to talk homophobia in same sentence as this reactionary ideology is a hilarious one.
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Ernest Grandwill - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 12:43:55 EST fSlq9ETD No.180534 Reply
>>180519
What a "clickbait history" you think I read? And, you say such the thing while providing you own clickbait.

All I say, is show non propaganda bullshit source. Article made by British empire presses condemning their new enemy to horrible crimes is not valid one. Show me better source is all I asking.
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Molly Sillyham - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 13:49:05 EST /hHwO2Vn No.180535 Reply
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India needs to expel the Kali Yuga demonic abrahamic dragon (Islam-Christianity-Judaism) off its Aryan lands. Kalki shall annihilate those barbarians off the real holy land!!
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Shit Mecklespear - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:07:46 EST 7FTzvO3p No.180536 Reply
This thread is a good opportunity to remind everyone that India/BJP has one of the biggest troll armies in the world.

Although one of these guys might just a garden-variety poltard, the sudden influx of weirdly specific retard trolling is a little suspicious.
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Shit Becklespear - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 14:10:04 EST RzBXYqIb No.180537 Reply
>>180534
How about you murder yourself and stop shitting up this website instead?
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Molly Sillyham - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:36:21 EST /hHwO2Vn No.180543 Reply
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>>180536
We don't want a corrupted demonic desert cults poisoning Shiva's land.
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Samuel Ciblingstone - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 20:13:08 EST 6aXc7Mkw No.180545 Reply
>>180536
Yet you're not even from here, or any chan to begin with. Fuck off with your pilpul.
>indian troll army
That isn't even fit for /tinfoil/ Anyone who's hired pajeets off of fiver knows that they're shit at trolling and spamming in general.
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Hannah Cungercocke - Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:49:36 EST dZDaQqJv No.180556 Reply
>>180545
Not saying I necessarily agree with that guy but wouldn't the guys you hired being shit at trolling explain why the guys on fiver are there to begin with and not working for an intelligence agency?
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Hamilton Cullerchodge - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 07:35:07 EST 4M9EKdC5 No.180559 Reply
>>180545
I don't necessarily agree with that guy either but your attacks on him are thin and obvious. Don't be so defensive.
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Ebenezer Brenningbanks - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 12:18:13 EST IqfNwQwl No.180571 Reply
>>180556
That may sound like a logical conclusion... until you realize that if we don't take into account bribes and corruption moneys fiver pays better than low level indian government jobs....
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Matilda Crottingnuck - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 13:46:33 EST fxZPTs+O No.180582 Reply
>>180482
"Sikhism was a defensive reaction to Islam" is like the most retarded right-wing talking point of recent years. I swear if the conservative forces in the Anglo world didn't have Islam to make a bogeyman out of they'd have to invent something new.
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Ebenezer Brenningbanks - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 13:56:44 EST IqfNwQwl No.180583 Reply
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>>180582
>if I don't like the point, it's right-wing!
Anon, grow up. Sikhs are the ONLY religious group that I can state, that I have never once met a bad member of. at least out of any group that I've known more than five representatives there of They are not a partisan political group.
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Hannah Cungercocke - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 16:57:25 EST dZDaQqJv No.180597 Reply
>>180583
I don't get this post. What are you disagreeing about? You think the religion of Sikhism was created as a reaction to Islam? That's fucking retarded and goes to show you think these people's sole belief system and motivation is to be in opposition to those you don't like. Yes there have been fights with Muslims and Hindus, Sheikhs have been slaughtered by both. Currently a Seikh person is no more safe in Modi's India than they are in Islamist Pakistan.

Like you said, they aren't a monolith, so I don't get the point you are trying to make about them all hating Muslims, most of which get on a plane and have visas coming here. This guy with presumably rich parents and a law degree with no student debt is priding himself on how much he's sick of "illegals" which are primarily people fleeing from Latin American countries that US sponsored military coups and proxy wars have left so unstable that gangs originating from America have moved in and taken control through violence. Real stand up guy, his soul is pure because he always wears a hat in public and isn't like those brown people, his dad owns a chain of Super 8's and his family fled here from today's "Bad Guy's®" and not yesterday's who have been demoted to merely "Bad Dudes®".
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Jarvis Dettinghire - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 18:57:25 EST 7GQezg5s No.180603 Reply
>>180597
I think you're responding to the wrong person. Also, Sheikhs are not the same as Sikhs...
>180601
Tha fuck you say bitch? I've been here since /jenk/ was cool and nobody had heard of BHJ or getting loud yet. Who do you think you are? Are you spunky? Well, you're not.
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Matilda Crottingnuck - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 19:18:19 EST fxZPTs+O No.180606 Reply
>>180583
Yeah, are you denying being right-wing while posting right-wing talking points and right-wing memes you have saved to your PC? Are you perhaps defensive or ashamed of regurgitating these things so uncritically, and embarrassing yourself online as you repeat debunked right-wing rhetorical points?
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Fucking Berryham - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 20:08:41 EST dZDaQqJv No.180607 Reply
>>180603
Yeah, it was auto correct but you can infer from the spelling the other times in there what I was talking about, and no, I replied to the post I intended to, the one with water baby level historical broad brushes accompanied by a 4 year old maymay.
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David Drecklelock - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:19:29 EST jwfr9+5a No.180609 Reply
>>180607
But I wasn't the poster making claims that sikhism was a response to islamic hostility.
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Cedric Shakespear - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 22:51:10 EST wFK2Hm63 No.180616 Reply
>>180609
You were attempting to talk down to him for pointing out the shitty partisan talking point he said that was historically false was a shitty stormfag partisan talking point that was historically false then whet on about how much you fetishize a certain subset of south Asian men who can be used as political pawns. What part of your post was I missing?
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David Drecklelock - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 23:11:39 EST jwfr9+5a No.180617 Reply
>>180616
>indian subcontinent = south asian men
The hell are you trying to say?
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Shit Crandercocke - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:00:14 EST +8irr0Qf No.180629 Reply
>>180606
I am confused by this thread now. What right wing talking point? I am not talking Sikhism created as reaction against Islam. My point, was you should use better source than London newspaper from 1948 talking about happenings in their rebelling colony for anything relaible and not biased. Also, it's quite rich hearing Muslim massacres of Hindu and Sikhs get played down as if never happened either. Taking sides in Indian conflict is retarded in general, although Pakistan is particularly dangerous due to theocrats. India now also has such problems. But, I don't think even with retarded Indian nationalist Hindu fundamentalist platform is near as dangerous as Islamists getting into power there.
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Cedric Shakespear - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:09:09 EST wFK2Hm63 No.180630 Reply
>>180629
Islamists even having a chance of getting in power in post partisan India is some Jack Ryan level burger bullshit.
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Hamilton Shittingworth - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 15:15:42 EST iRDXL3Gw No.180635 Reply
>>180629
>My point, was you should use better source than London newspaper from 1948
You are literally, unironically the most retarded poster on this entire website if you think that single newspaper clip is the only evidence of Jammu.

People have linked the Wikipedia article to you. People have posted pics for you. This is a subject that is taught in schools and studied in universities and referenced in textbooks all over the world. There is no controversy whatsoever that the Jammu Massacre happened, or that the Partition of India caused instability.

You are being obviously, willfully ignorant and trolling this thread with /tinfoil/ shit so stupid even /tinfoil/ would make fun of you. Spunky just banned someone for saying the Deep State exists, but for some reason you are sitting bottom-barrel /tinfoil/ conspiracy shit that is so stupid and uninformed that even other /tinfoilers/ wouldn't know wtf you're on about.

If /tinfoil/, /pol/tard level bigotry, trolling shitposting and blatant attempts to derail threads are bannable offenses then it is is absolutely baffling why you haven't been banned yet. This is sub-9/11-truther shit. Gtfo back to whatever mental hospital you wandered in from.
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Fucking Simmerspear - Sat, 02 Nov 2019 19:32:41 EST wp8Trwsz No.180637 Reply
>>180635
You seem upset. You could have used better references my dude
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Barnaby Sonnerfork - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 07:35:20 EST /Y4a53z3 No.180652 Reply
>>180635
>muh spunky argument
Spunky IS the deepstate. Why do you think this board is still up?
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Phineas Fizzlefuck - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 18:00:43 EST L3zo7DjP No.180667 Reply
Wait, Partition of India denialism is really a thing?

Lmfao wtf nb
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Hugh Blonningnick - Thu, 07 Nov 2019 20:25:24 EST UFZN58w7 No.180769 Reply
Modi and his BJP fascists are incredibly pro-Trump, too.
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Emma Tootgold - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:01:55 EST KTlijVL4 No.180944 Reply
>trying to debate with ESL student scum
This was your first mistake. ESLs barely understand how to ask where the pisser is half the time.
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Sidney Porringville - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:22:25 EST eW7lNgCN No.182249 Reply
>>181270

Not really surprising considering how much India likes Israel

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