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Mormons ban guns, continuing separation from far-right

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- Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:05:30 EST dwWpzUgX No.178737
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https://religionnews.com/2019/08/27/with-new-gun-rule-mormons-take-a-step-away-from-republican-right-wing/
>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has just updated its policy on firearms, moving from a recommendation that lethal weapons, including guns, were considered “inappropriate” on church property to an outright prohibition of them.

>This marks the latest in a series of small steps the church has taken away from the Republican Party, either by tweaking its own policies or by simply upholding its usual position to the right of center, while members of the GOP swing ever further to the right.

>Merely by doubling down on the church’s prior stance on weapons in church, changing the one word “inappropriate” to “prohibited,” LDS leaders are signaling that they’re not blindly following the direction that many in the GOP are embracing, despite the fact that a majority of U.S. Mormons identify with the Republican Party.

>Gun violence is not the only issue; Mormons are also charting their own path on immigration. The GOP in general has followed Donald Trump’s anti-immigrant agenda. Studies by the Pew Research Center show that Republicans are statistically much more likely than Democrats to believe that immigration is a major problem facing the country and that a border wall will be an effective way to solve the problem — both key elements of President Trump’s platform. Mormons, however, are noticeably more pro-immigrant than other Republicans.

>According to research from the 2016 Next Mormons Survey, a majority of U.S. Mormons feel that immigrants “strengthen our country because of their hard work and talents,” while Pew finds that a majority of Republicans believe that immigrants “are a burden on our country because they take our jobs, housing, and health care.”

>This is evident not just in the beliefs of the rank-and-file but in recent statements of the church, such as one decrying then-candidate Trump’s proposed “Muslim ban” in favor of religious freedom for all people (December 2015). Other statements have been pressing for compassionate solutions for refugees (January 2017), recommending that the federal government allow young DACA immigrants to remain in the country (January 2018) and urging that immigrant families be allowed to stay together rather than separating parents from children at the border (June 2018, and reiterated by church President Russell Nelson in April 2019).

>Abortion is a third issue where Mormons’ views are diverging from the GOP’s.
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Edward Chiddleworth - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:16:15 EST dZDaQqJv No.178739 Reply
>>178737
I live around a bunch of Mormons, actually on the edge of Mormon Zion, there is a temple where I live, which is different than the meeting halls(churches), it gates and you actually need to be a high ranking Mormon to enter.

Anyway, when I read stuff like this it gives me hope but when I see them in real life they all have the same Trump bumperstickers and parrot fox news in conversations. I didn't see any Evan McMullen signs out here in 2016 but on I did see a bunch of Trump billboards on swaths of Mormon owned farmland that ironically only use undocumented central American workers.
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Archie Snodbanks - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:38:04 EST /84786hM No.178743 Reply
>>178739
Yeah it's smoke screen shit. This just makes me think they have a plan to push another mormon candidate for presidency in the upcoming election.

Never trust mormons.
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Alice Buckletone - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:44:05 EST WL3e2fsO No.178745 Reply
>a majority of U.S. Mormons feel that immigrants “strengthen our country because of their hard work and talents,”

Translation: we need the huge influx of poorly educated, god-fearing simpletons that immigrants bring in order to keep our cult going ... too many native citizens are getting college degrees and are seeing right through our smokescreens!
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Edward Chiddleworth - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:03:33 EST dZDaQqJv No.178746 Reply
>>178745
Honestly for as outlandish as their religion is they are a highly educated lot. They turn out quite a few engineers and doctors and the FBI actively recruits them because they often learn a second language and do a year of international travel as missionaries after high school. Ironically a way they keep second generation Mormons whose parents immigrated here and converted within their fold is to offer free or reduced cost college at a Mormon school as well as scholarships to that school. There are 3 huge BYU campuses and one is in Hawaii. There are some community aspects in what they do that I think are good ideas. They were also all doomsday preppers before it was a fad and they have at least a month's worth of supplies ready at all times.
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Emma Gonningnatch - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:28:43 EST mS1pSVvk No.178747 Reply
>Merely by doubling down on the church’s prior stance on weapons in church, changing the one word “inappropriate” to “prohibited,”
>"prohibited"
>in church
Wow. I mean, I know Republicans are so brain washed by the NRA that they feel entitled to bring their guns to church, elementary school, fast food restaurants, etc. But do they really see this as a big deal? Even if you can't bring your weapon to church, you can still stockpile for the upcoming rapture...
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Alice Buckletone - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:39:41 EST WL3e2fsO No.178748 Reply
>>178747

It's unenforceable virtue signalling. They just wanna make it seem like mormon churches are safe places, in the hopes they can recruit more cult members to tithe 20% of their wages to the church. Pay no attention to this fluff.
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Phoebe Clerringman - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:37:11 EST RQNsJp9C No.178749 Reply
Welp, Mormonism is a cult just like all religions. I don't give a fuck if they are trying to restructure to appeal to a more wide recruitment base of younger people. They can go fuck themselves like all forms of organized religion, I'm not going to look at them in any more positive or negative light no matter what they do. Unless they dissolve their stupid cult.

Varg Seal of Approval
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Emma Broggleville - Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:31:03 EST pkvoXkyk No.178756 Reply
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>>178737
Bernie Sanders and even Cory Fucking Booker of all people are currently beating Trump in Utah polls, so there might be hope for them yet:
https://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/21444-trump-at-40-support-in-utah-ahead-of-2020-vote-trails-democrats-booker-and-sanders-tied-with-warren-and-biden-in-head-to-head-matchup

TFW when your Friendship Froggy Meme Magic© splits the party.
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Archie Wannermare - Fri, 30 Aug 2019 05:04:05 EST iu7rXlht No.178761 Reply
>>178737
> a majority of U.S. Mormons feel that immigrants “strengthen our country
>because of their hard work and talents,”

In general, there are no more, long hair budweiser drinking whites to fill the low class workers who roof houses.

>while Pew finds that a majority of Republicans believe that immigrants “are a burden on our country because >they take our jobs, housing, and health care.”

Yea, jobs, the intelligent ones., Housing, gentrifications can take many avenues. What was a black area, turns out to be 90% latino in a mere 10 years. Over that, eventually, the latinos, get overturned and the area is prime real-estate, for white buisness.
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Beatrice Clossleluck - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:29:00 EST Dwn3U4hp No.178856 Reply
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>>178747
>But do they really see this as a big deal?
Yes. Your average evangelical church would consider such a policy to be Anti-American Sharia Gay Satanic Communism.

>>178745
This isn't entirely wrong.
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Nell Fommerridge - Mon, 02 Sep 2019 12:43:22 EST eJRxDMxx No.178859 Reply
Defending the government just gets tougher everyday.
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Albert Hipperhut - Tue, 03 Sep 2019 22:01:05 EST cTqHsJvI No.178879 Reply
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>>178871
>using a gun
Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon
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Edward Cronnerspear - Sun, 15 Sep 2019 15:59:37 EST XA6VcPCV No.179129 Reply
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>>178747
>Wow. I mean, I know Republicans are so brain washed by the NRA that they feel entitled to bring their guns to church, elementary school, fast food restaurants, etc. But do they really see this as a big deal?
Real American Christians™ literally get married with their guns.

So yeah, sensible shit this might as well be Sharia Law to them.
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Lydia Mittingden - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 13:21:01 EST gdwy/BaV No.179291 Reply
>>179287
It's all publicity shit. They operate more like a shady business than a religion.
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Matilda Subbleshaw - Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:29:58 EST +8irr0Qf No.179294 Reply
>>179129
ahh trigger discipline you are aiming at the bride's knees you dumb bitch ffff
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Doris Trotstone - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:01:05 EST P8k3OD5D No.179336 Reply
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>>179291
All organized religion is a shady business of some sort, deep down.
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Cornelius Wittingshaw - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:58:24 EST BwVqZwlk No.179337 Reply
>>179336
Sort of. Like southern baptist ministers aren't cataloging their congregation and reporting to their superiors. Mormons do. If you are, or ever were a mormon, they have files on you and keep track of what's going on in your life. My dad was in the mormon church as a child, hadn't associated with them in any way since the early seventies, but they showed up at his house a few years ago when he was laid off to offer assistance. It's creepy. They're creepy. They also know that people are more aware these days of the goofy batshit crazy stuff they believe in, so they know it's time for some image management before they make another push into politics.
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Frederick Bucklehore - Mon, 23 Sep 2019 20:21:19 EST 3Odo9IR+ No.179341 Reply
>>179337
Milk before Meat is such a fucked up concept. You think when you're actively hiding your own beleifes, you'd think something was wrong.
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Molly Ciddleson - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:42:26 EST EfnSF8dn No.181185 Reply
Wow, at some point they'll probably syphon out the money, abandon religion and go into real estate and other investments only.
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Thomas Surryhere - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:13:11 EST vJzt15Nj No.181187 Reply
>>181185
I'm kind of hoping they'll go to space tbh like the expanse except hopefully without having their ship ruined because someone has try to flick a space station into the sun.
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Hedda Blythegold - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:47:49 EST G1shfJmg No.181369 Reply
>>181187
Do you think they'll colonize space before China does?
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Eugene Blisslewell - Thu, 12 Dec 2019 01:05:46 EST g3QwJk+8 No.181428 Reply
>pretend your religion is based off Jesus
>don't include any of the original books from the Bible
>sell real estate

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