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Turkey invading Rojava to destroy Kurdish democracy

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- Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:45:51 EST L3zo7DjP No.179925
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https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/nato-second-largest-army-prepares-to-roll-into-rojava
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/10/10/turkey_assault_northern_syria_kurds_rojava
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/10/rojava-syria-erdogan-turkey-united-states-military
https://m.dw.com/en/turkey-unleashes-offensive-against-kurds-in-northern-syria/a-50758501
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/07/trump-syria-turkish-forces-kurds-response-rojava
https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/
Fuck Erdogan.
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Graham Chosslekatch - Thu, 10 Oct 2019 15:50:17 EST tlilhxRg No.179926 Reply
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The reply Trump gave to just giving up on the Kurdish support is beyond retarded, even by Trump standards.

Hurr durr durr, the Kurds didn't help the USA in Normandy...
He's fucking gone, he's losing it. The guy is a walking brain aneurism.
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Graham Hibberman - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:18:57 EST tTDoJHxJ No.179946 Reply
>>179926

He's got money in Turkey and on top of that, putin probably told him to get around to it so he can swoop into Syria. There's a lot of oil, natural gas and resources in the middle east and russia needs it badly. Ever wonder why our foreign policy has seemingly been turned on it's head lately?
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Jarvis Nurringdale - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 05:26:52 EST XA6VcPCV No.179947 Reply
>>179946
The United States has been betraying the Kurds since the 1920s.

Stop ascribing every shitty thing your shitty country does to Russia.
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Eliza Grimham - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:31:37 EST ar9mMa8V No.179949 Reply
>>179947
They both have interests there so why not have commentary on both? Do you think Russia is in Venezuela purely because it's trying to poor little Venezuelans fight of the evil oil vampires of the US?
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Isabella Fungerfoot - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:54:33 EST qA/aKzF4 No.179950 Reply
>>179947
Yeah we pave roads for a Russian ally, but do not consider the relationship. We just like paving roads for people. Politics is totally unrelated.

You dip.
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Phineas Cirrydale - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 06:58:13 EST 4ijG6Fh9 No.179952 Reply
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>>179949
>innocent people are going to die, a vibrant and progressive society is about to be crushed under the heel of imperialism, an oppressed people is crying out for the world to recognize their plight and to acknowledge their struggle as an American ally with tacit American support threatens to wipe a people off the map for profit and plunder
>"how can I hijack this story to attack Russia and Venezuela?
Literally go kill yourself you self-centered simpleminded American scumbag.
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Isabella Fungerfoot - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:03:26 EST qA/aKzF4 No.179953 Reply
>>179952
LMAO yeah... Keep repeating it, keep bumping threads with it... NOTHING WRONG!! lol RAWR!! TRUMP NOTHING WRONG! RUSSIANS NOTHING WRONG!! GRRRR come on, man...
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Eliza Grimham - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:15:27 EST ar9mMa8V No.179954 Reply
>>179952
I'm not hijacking anything you idiot. I want fair scrutiny of multiple world powers fighting proxy wars over resources.
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Lydia Winkinbury - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:03:47 EST /AjmrcBJ No.179956 Reply
>>179952
>about to be crushed under the heel of imperialism
It's also straight up racism. It's not the first time the Turks have taken to the Syrian deserts to try and wipe out a people they didn't like, let's not forget that.
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Esther Dinnerlurk - Fri, 11 Oct 2019 18:05:55 EST +8irr0Qf No.179962 Reply
>>179946
Russia has those things you complete idiot braindead master of fat. In fact, Russias biggest problem was specifically not even sanctions so much as plummeting petrol and nat gas prices because Russia is basically some retarded third world petrostate. I am serious how fucking dumb can you be? Whole Russian problem was Russian economy being based mostly on petrol/natgas export particularly to Europe. Fucking retards I swear.
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Cornelius Nasslefit - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 07:34:21 EST qWBsIEn2 No.179968 Reply
>>179962
Is this really what you think Russia is? Where did you get your education? Underestimating Russia isn't working, I suggest you try another tactic, whoever you are.
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Nicholas Drillywell - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:56:20 EST XA6VcPCV No.179970 Reply
>>179968
So it this what you mean about that whole "repetative messaging works" thing?

Just keep repeating messages about Russia in every thread until we literally can't talk about any other subject?

No matter how much people call you out on saying flatly inaccurate stupid shit, just ignore it and keep repeating the message?
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Cornelius Nasslefit - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 11:28:29 EST qWBsIEn2 No.179977 Reply
>>179970
LMAO calm the fuck down. The board is being gamed by bots and shills, you're saying it's not?
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Ebenezer Lightspear - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:47:19 EST L3zo7DjP No.179985 Reply
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This thread is about Turkey and Rojava, people.
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Nicholas Drillywell - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:17:28 EST XA6VcPCV No.179996 Reply
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Posting on-topic content to combat the CIA forum-sliders
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Nicholas Drillywell - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:18:19 EST XA6VcPCV No.179997 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nicholas Drillywell - Sat, 12 Oct 2019 18:20:01 EST XA6VcPCV No.179998 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Shitting Nobberstock - Mon, 14 Oct 2019 06:44:13 EST tlilhxRg No.180045 Reply
>>179925
Well shit's a mess now. The Kurds have allied with Assad now and Turkey and Assad have said they won't fight, but Turkey uses local militias and mercenaries for support and yeah, they really hate Assad so this can become a huge clusterfuck.
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Hamilton Suvinglock - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 09:16:49 EST qFtXSnUb No.180071 Reply
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>>179925
pic related is a Belgian football club for children with mostly kids of Turkish origins. There have been multiple pictures like this. Of course everything is fine and under control
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Sophie Mubbledutch - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 10:57:01 EST N1GZvlz2 No.180074 Reply
>>180073
Stop pretending to be offended by shit everyone knows you fucking LOVE or you wouldn't be here.
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Shitting Bardgold - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:55:01 EST JoGl7uO+ No.180076 Reply
>>180071
What in the fuck does this have to do with anything!?
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Hamilton Suvinglock - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 15:25:07 EST qFtXSnUb No.180077 Reply
>>180076
Something something radicalization
something something boom

Remember when a bunch of Turkish thugs beat up a group of protesters in the states? Remember how turkey used to be begging to get in the EU? Did you know that that Brussels is the capital of Belgium and kind of the EU?

I guess this thread isn't really about that but it kinda shows a certain agenda don't you think?

>>180073
The picture was in multiple news outlets you projecting retard.
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Martin Wimblenitch - Tue, 15 Oct 2019 21:26:53 EST fDbnZ1zF No.180079 Reply
>>180078
Remember when the Turkish ambassador sent his body guards to beat up some Kurdish or Armenian protesters in Washington? There was absolutely no blow back.

Turkey is in an immensely important strategic location. Both controlling southern sea access to Ukraine and Russia and being the perfect vector for oil pipelines from the Middle East to Europe. Because of this strategic importance the US will tolerate their descent into a full on fascist state and whatever crimes they commit so long as they remain loyal to NATO and the IMF.

Frankly, given the US' history as generally a maritime empire, they prefer such fascist states at critical naval choke points. Singapore is a single party system with absurdly draconian domestic law. Egypt is still a military dictatorship. We were even helping Noriega export cocaine to US until we found out he was keeping dirt on the CIA.

Anyways Russia obviously wants access to both Turkey and Syria for ports and pipelines. It's just absurd to think Trump's decision to not intervene is somehow "playing into Putin's hand". It's in American imperial interests to keep Turkey loyal and let them carry out another genocide. I absolutely guarantee you that's what every top brass general is telling him to do. Rojava has zero strategic importance and Turkey is the biggest game in the region. It's better to let Putin have his access to Assad than push Erdogan to flip to Putin.

Sadly I fear Kurdish independence will always be a fleeting thing since any territory they would control would be of little importance. Unless there is a major reworking of Mid-East borders, the Kurds will always just be those hill people you can call upon to turn on their masters.
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Sidney Goblingbit - Wed, 16 Oct 2019 05:26:51 EST lVpG8Pti No.180080 Reply
>>179925
I dont understand this board. Everyone is replying to a banned user and posting weird shit that makes no sense. Back to /nom/ for me
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Reuben Pickham - Thu, 17 Oct 2019 16:29:09 EST jva21RDW No.180099 Reply
>>180084
Reading the comments on these things seems to be a really bad idea. It's full of a lot of racism from turkish nationalists, and I don't know if they're bots or what.
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Jenny Cloblingford - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 15:30:57 EST 9fYtQKNt No.180123 Reply
>>180099
Erdogan has kinda encouraged an already very prevalent core of Turk nationalists.
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Oliver Sallerlatch - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:26:49 EST L3zo7DjP No.180151 Reply
>>179925
The Turkish military doesn’t function without the U.S. weapons industry—and the approval of the U.S. government.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/10/11/turkey-kurds-and-lots-and-lots-us-weapons
>Turkey, a U.S. ally in Syria, attacks another U.S. ally in Syria, the Syrian Democratic Forces, a Kurdish-led group of militias whose very existence is anathema to the Turkish government—and the Trump Administration does nothing to prevent it. Trump’s indifference is appropriately denounced by the leadership of both political parties—Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell opposes the planned "precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces" from Syria, and Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calls upon the president to "reverse this dangerous decision." But is this bipartisan leadership consensus that American troops must remain in Syria really the only alternative? Is there no way to stop Turkey, other by interposing American troops? Well, at the least, there is one other obvious path as yet untread upon: Want to stop Turkey from attacking another ally? Take away their guns, and their tanks, and their planes, and their…

>According to GlobalSecurity.org, Turkey has about 2550 armored personnel carriers, of which 99% are America made, as are all but two of its 170 fixed wing aircraft. Less than 1% of Turkey’s 760 "towed" artillery are homemade; the rest, again, are manufactured here. 80% of its 990 "self-propelled" artillery pieces are made in the U.S.A. Less than 2% of Turkey’s 3,250 "Main Battle Tanks" are manufactured there; 53% are American made; another 24% are joint U.S./Israel products. (The rest come from Germany.) In short, the Turkish military doesn’t function without the U.S. weapons industry—and the approval of the U.S. government. Absent all the hardware bearing Made in America stickers sitting in Turkish military bases, we would probably not be fretting about what Turkey’s government was doing to the Syrian Democratic Forces.

>It would appear that the course of pulling the plug on the Turkish war machine is just in thinkable to them.

>So, what if the U.S. government were to simply tell Turkey to desist? Yes, it’s true that theoretically the Turkish government could opt to break with Washington and proceed with their attack using the equipment already on hand. But realistically, if it was told that there would be no replacements in the pipeline unless it called off this attack, it seems highly likely that we would see some serious behavior modification—pdq.

>How does it not occur to our national leaders to at least promote such a commonsensical step? Trump we need not discuss, immersed as he is in the "alternative facts" that reign in his White House. But Pelosi and McConnell? It would appear that the course of pulling the plug on the Turkish war machine is just unthinkable to them. At this point, the idea of sending and maintaining American troops 6000 miles away to prevent an ally from carrying out an attack apparently seems the more reasonable and familiar option to them.
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Oliver Turveyhood - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:14:47 EST n7mhQk9Y No.180153 Reply
>>180151
They could always quit NATO and sign a defense pact with Russia. Look at geopolitics getting written in real-time.
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Samuel Sankinfit - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 17:20:29 EST GW1axdWk No.180157 Reply
>>180153
And why would they do that when NATO gives them all the weapons and political support they need?
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Fanny Dottingforth - Sat, 19 Oct 2019 18:26:34 EST QgwvDyjp No.180161 Reply
>>180151
>why doesn't the puppet government of the military-industrial complex cut off one of its best customers right as its starting a campaign and is going to need to buy fucktons more weapons

the burgers were only even in syria in the first place because the war business was in a lull and they needed to prop up demand
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Lillian Wongerville - Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:06:17 EST GW1axdWk No.180258 Reply
>>179925
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/18/un-investigates-turkey-alleged-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-syria
>UN chemical weapons inspectors have announced they are gathering information following accusations that burning white phosphorus was used by Turkish forces against children in Syria earlier this week.

>Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, a former commander of the UK’s chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear regiment, said: “The most likely culprit is white phosphorus. It is a horrific weapon, and has been used repeatedly during the Syrian civil war; unfortunately its use has become increasingly normalised.”
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