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"Afghanistan Papers" reveals extent of corruption and lies behind 18-year war

- Fri, 13 Dec 2019 00:56:49 EST ny9ZGuH9 No.181444
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>A major “Washington Post” investigation released on December 9 is a confirmation of the peace movement’s message that “there’s no military solution in Afghanistan.”

>That assessment is according to Paul Kawika Martin, senior director of policy and political affairs at Peace Action, replying to The Afghanistan Papers. The report exposes how top officials spanning the George W. Bush, Obama, and Trump administrations waged a deliberate misinformation campaign to conceal the total failures of the 18-year war in Afghanistan.

>The bombshell from investigative reporter Craig Whitlock “broadly resembles the Pentagon Papers,” and it is based on over 2,000 pages of notes from interviews with a federal agency that “bring into sharp relief the core failings of the war that persist to this day” and belie comments by officials “who assured Americans year after year” of progress made in the war.

>The paper obtained the cache of documents following a legal battle that lasted three years and included two lawsuits. The documents came out of a project from the Office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), an agency now headed by Obama-appointee John Sopko. That project, entitled Lessons Learned, was meant to assess “the U.S. reconstruction experience in Afghanistan.”

>They revealed that officials continually misled the public about the war’s success, there was no strategy, their efforts fueled corruption, and the U.S. was clearly losing ground as well as tens of thousands of lives and at least $1 trillion.

>The trove includes transcripts and notes from over 400 interviewers between 2014 and 2018. SIGAR blacked out names of roughly 85 percent of interviewees.

>“It was impossible to create good metrics” about the troop surge, one unnamed senior National Security Council official said in a 2016 interview. “We tried using troop numbers trained, violence levels, control of territory and none of it painted an accurate picture.” They added, “The metrics were always manipulated for the duration of the war.”

>Ryan Crocker, who was the top U.S. diplomat in Kabul from 2011 to 2012, said in a 2016 interview, “Our biggest single project, sadly and inadvertently, of course, may have been the development of mass corruption.”
William Gugglefuck - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 09:57:18 EST EfnSF8dn No.181450 Reply
It's the same shit that brought down the South Vietnamese government. They could have used the local corruption to buy every tribe elder, mayor or whatever local representative but they just drowned the corrrupt central government with money and trusted those warlords and drug dealers to make good use of all those billions.
Thomas Trotham - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:12:47 EST kdzUyY3G No.181455 Reply
I mean, I dont even know what the goal of Afghanistan is now. I've heard it was for a huge pipeline meant to cut off Iran from the East, but that seems like you'd need a place with some stability, and another time I heard it was trillions in Lithium, but that never seemed to go anywhere.
Ernest Chenkinmatch - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:39:21 EST m33fCaRz No.181457 Reply
The US economy depends on setting 5% of gdp on fire every year, and nobody wants to do it there.
Sophie Clabberchick - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 16:17:28 EST +caSzARK No.181489 Reply
i'll push you in an oven chinabot
Ian Buzzfoot - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 16:31:30 EST dZDaQqJv No.181490 Reply
Americans scream nothing happened in Nanjing and that the The Japanese were invited guests.

Make it happen chinabot.
Hugh Chittingstedge - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 03:52:48 EST Oi89F67V No.181501 Reply

Good point Winnie the pooh. You're very clever for a bear of little brain.

Want some Hunny? How about a state that imprisons journalists and minorities, then harvests their organs while they are still living for the black market?
Hannah Pockson - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 18:13:00 EST eW7lNgCN No.181514 Reply

The funny thing is that the US government was originally supportive of the Taliban taking control of Afghanistan after the Soviets left because they believed that the Taliban would create the most stable conditions for Saudi Arabian oil interests in the area (The Saudis who worked hand in hand with the CIA to fund and train the Mujahedin insurgents).
Caroline Bunstock - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 18:38:31 EST kdzUyY3G No.181515 Reply
I knew that (though not the Saudi connection, just the general "fuck the USSR" thing) but what I can't get now is what the US exactly is trying to do now. Its thrown trillions at this, and they allow an extremely corrupt government shit up the area, so you cant have any big companies come in and exploit. Its totally unfathomably to me. They are actively working against any goal oil/gas, or mining, or whatever company would want in Afghanistan.
Hannah Pockson - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 18:45:11 EST eW7lNgCN No.181516 Reply

It's probably just a get rich quick scheme for the military industrial complex. At the very least the potential of the US government trying to finally do something about all of the warlords they gave weapons to
Martha Dickleridge - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:10:19 EST 4scaaRdR No.181517 Reply

did you not see the huge unprecedented budge the DoD just got for 2020? with sweeping bipartisan support?
Lydia Hullerstere - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:58:23 EST fxZPTs+O No.181518 Reply
I could believe intensive military-industrial complex lobbying and electoral influence has swelled the defense budget and kept up support for the war. It's a pretty vulgar explanation but it's probably accurate enough. American citizens largely don't know what their government is doing besides what the TV man tells them, and that's not a good basis for understanding. The average citizen probably doesn't know how much is spent on the defense budget or how much the F35 cost or how much blowback the wars have caused or the sheer intractability of achieving the goals of the global so-called "war on terror".
Emma Grimfoot - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 04:01:06 EST GW1axdWk No.181529 Reply
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So apparently Afghan farmers would set up fake Taliban camps for America to drop millions of dollars worth of bombs on, and then they'd sell the scrap metal.

Which is pretty funny.
Ian Creffingdale - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 05:35:13 EST Z0AC2mie No.181530 Reply
>So apparently Afghan farmers would set up fake Taliban camps for America to drop millions of dollars worth of bombs on
This is standard military practice. I think Serbians mastered this thing. NATO bombed the shit out of Serbians claimed every week how it laser guided precision bombs destroy this and that much of Serbian tanks and when the peace came the NATO observers could not believe their eyes when the Serbians drove off with their which basicly did not have any casulties. That all was because they had made fake targets all around the country and NATO spend millions to destroying wood made fake tanks
Henry Sammerway - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:17:05 EST kdzUyY3G No.181539 Reply
The funny thing is that it wasn't even military, just that the farmers knew the Americas would drop bombs on anything and figured a way to actually get some benefit from it.
Ian Creffingdale - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 16:42:51 EST Z0AC2mie No.181544 Reply
>The funny thing is that it wasn't even military
Sure thing. You do realize that military which America fighting is literally guerilla army formed exactly by those farmers. When some western journalists come asking "whatcha doing hre boys? what are those fake targets over there?" then ofcourse they are going to "errrrrrrr. just making these false targets...... to get some scrap metal! yep that is it! we are doing this to get some scrap metal from bombs nothing to see here!".
Henry Sammerway - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 16:48:14 EST kdzUyY3G No.181545 Reply
I seriously doubt they'd care to say if they were hired by the Taliban to do this or not. Never mind the Taliban is mostly a Pashtun nationalist army fused with Fundamentalist Islam, so in general dont have universal support anyway.
Ian Creffingdale - Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:17:52 EST Z0AC2mie No.181546 Reply
While Taleban might not have universal support revolting against foreign invaders do
Edward Hevingstitch - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 15:05:13 EST eWJAC/Lo No.181590 Reply
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Pelosi knew both Afghanistan and Iraq were based on a pile of obvious lies, chose not to impeach Dubya anyway.
Shitting Savingwire - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:34:38 EST e7t9/BCy No.181603 Reply
You make it sound like he was ever opposed to it to begin with. Trump has always been part of the same multigenerational Satanic elites aka the NWO and the Illuminati. It's just that most of his voters are way too profoundly stupid to see and understand that.
Hamilton Crunkinbury - Sat, 21 Dec 2019 13:36:17 EST 4eR24+NR No.181604 Reply
If the illuminati were real, they'd be putting molly in the water, not flouride.
Eliza Honeyfield - Mon, 23 Dec 2019 10:30:58 EST 2Tct+wj2 No.181618 Reply
No one will care that the US is not a free country until more Americans personally become victims of the police state.

Everyone will shrug if an American gets killed by the CIA in Yemen, but Americans might care about the police state when they get tortured for jaywalking.
Augustus Gondlechatch - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 05:48:19 EST n1GNC4dt No.181642 Reply
Okay. So this board is officially just /tinfoil/ posts and chinabot now, correct?
Ebenezer Brenderdeg - Thu, 26 Dec 2019 07:58:14 EST ozwHir7G No.181644 Reply
What if every single one of chinabots posts is actually being made by a Chinese dissident or slave secretly trying to describe what his conditions in China are like?
He spends an awful lot of time talking about and describing slavery. Do you think chinabot is lowkey describing himself and his conditions as a slave under the totalitarian tyranny of the chinese state?>>181642
Simon Barryfock - Fri, 03 Jan 2020 15:03:50 EST eTJZiq2g No.181812 Reply
The same moral police officer who earns $24,000 per year and says that he loves the Bill of Rights might be happy to torture if he was paid $100,000 a year.
Molly Chonnerway - Fri, 03 Jan 2020 19:54:46 EST WVRzKvnd No.181825 Reply
Is this chinabot? While technically true, there are people who would walk away from paradise rather than torture anyone, and those who would torture for free when properly motivated or incentivized. People cross lines for many reasons. People can be astonishingly cruel with the most trivial of motivations. This is a truth of the human condition.
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Sat, 04 Jan 2020 10:39:25 EST 4qHnaBr8 No.181844 Reply
it's chinabot, I've been improving the fingerprinting of it recently and its posting volume has decreased significantly
Molly Chonnerway - Sat, 04 Jan 2020 11:52:00 EST WVRzKvnd No.181845 Reply
Well that was pretty astute. Happy Canadian new year my dude.
Fuck Bangersit - Sun, 05 Jan 2020 16:17:40 EST pjSfU+g+ No.181862 Reply
Emperor Xi gonna send you to his reeducation camps once Canada lets Huawai build its new networks.
Basil Dridgenedge - Sun, 05 Jan 2020 16:58:49 EST P0T0Ev1W No.181865 Reply
Americans are so dead and degraded now that if the US Army liquidates Fargo tomorrow, no one would even shrug.
Wesley Sinningnedge - Mon, 06 Jan 2020 06:29:26 EST +8irr0Qf No.181884 Reply
China I wish they would liquidate Wells Fargo and Bank of America too while they at it. That doesn't mean China doesn't have really concentration camps for millions of Uiguur and Chinese citizen do nothing. Amazing. China also is useless so call "ally" to everybody, aggressor to Japan and South Korea, aggressor to Bangladesh and free and independent Taiwan, and betrayer of Chinese people Communist revolution, and betrayer of Russia. Is there anything China cannot betray if it betray it's own people every day?
Hamilton Sedgebidge - Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:05:04 EST Y3JsGsvI No.182019 Reply

"Thank you for your service."
Phineas Blettingchadge - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:56:32 EST HNjso1OQ No.182036 Reply
One of the reasons smurf village is collapsing is because jokey won't stop pulling his pud outside the winder while poet's giving baker smurf the business. I mean smurfing it up his smurfing smurfhole.
Hedda Drablingfatch - Thu, 16 Jan 2020 22:12:18 EST 1O40kvSh No.182037 Reply
You know the US is bad when Americans say that they feel like they have more freedom in Communist countries like Vietnam.

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