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- Sun, 15 Dec 2019 03:28:09 EST 40pbmk0m No.181473
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Remember when governments would help small businesses because mega-corps don't need help?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/amazon-gets-final-okay-for-its-new-hq-in-arlington-despite-organized-labor-protest/2019/12/14/40b37760-1c90-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html
I don't either.
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Jarvis Girringman - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 09:41:45 EST E2Yofruj No.181482 Reply
Breaking up these behemoths is fighting the symptoms not the cause.
There is a fundamental issue in the fact that a company is something that can be sold or acquired by other entities.
Same goes for intellectual "property" or trademarks in the sense that they can be acquired my monetary means at all.
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Jenny Sorringspear - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 10:52:01 EST Dg4SuPXx No.181483 Reply
casual reminder America already has all the legislation it needs to deal with these problems, that it has already broken up monopolies in the past for using the exact same vertical integration tactics streaming giants are now, and that it has killed far more powerful corporate titans like Standard Oil

Literally all that has to happen is the American government decides to start enforcing its own laws again
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Lydia Clackletodge - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 12:19:34 EST EpdI+mnr No.181485 Reply
>>181482
The mixed the economy is a least awful solution. The problem is like any system it destabilises as someone accumulates power and starts using that to gain more power and change the rules in other subsystems and soon it snowballs. This is what we're witnessing. Other systems like capitalism and communism tend to spread the power less thinly to start with so they go down the shitter quicker. This is because some people will play the system whatever it is, against its intentions and values but within the rules. It's human nature to fuck shit up.

The solution a mix of safeguards and easy distribution. We cannot fix the cause we can only make it as easy and non disruptive as possible to fix the symptoms. Breaking up the behemoths is the solution but we need to take it further. We need a structure that lets us do this easy and to do the same to political parties and more. We need to to make it as hard as possible to reach that point so it needs doing less. I don't know the answer (I know a few things that will help though, they are obvious and of course and easy but will likely require upheaval to implement because how much push back would lobbyists make if we got on with crippling lobbying) but it seems a more realistic direction to take society in rather than the tug of war between capitalism and communism which both have beautiful ideas at their hearts and terrible results in reality. The happiest place on earth is of course Scandanavia.
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Fucking Nepperwick - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 13:23:31 EST QQ3LGBhq No.181486 Reply
>>181473
That picture is also missing natural foods since Amazon owns Whole Foods.
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Clara Greenman - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 15:21:28 EST Oi89F67V No.181487 Reply
Power
Water
Oil
Farming
Pharmaceuticals
Warfare
Prison systems
Mass transit
Environmental protection
Communication and broadcast infrastructure

All monopolies, all government regulated, subsidized and controlled.

Private interests, lobbyists and former politicians line up to take a slice of the pie.

Of course not mass media, at least not directly.

Though the Heyes code and McCarthy did their best to control it, and Fox panders, they are still probably, mostly independent, right?
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Ebenezer Sedgetodge - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:06:25 EST E2Yofruj No.181491 Reply
>>181485
>The solution a mix of safeguards and easy distribution. We cannot fix the cause we can only make it as easy and non disruptive as possible to fix the symptoms.
I'd say we can't do it easily, fundamental shifts in society happened... the vast majority of people now live in systems that are way better than feudalism for instance.

> Breaking up the behemoths is the solution but we need to take it further. We need a structure that lets us do this easy and to do the same to political parties and more
Yes, I agree at this point they have to be broken up.

>... rather than the tug of war between capitalism and communism which both have beautiful ideas at their hearts and terrible results in reality. The happiest place on earth is of course Scandanavia.
I'm glad that someone gets it that capitalism and communism aren't polar opposites.


What I think should happen is keeping capitalism out of social constructs that are directly provided by the government.
What I mean by that is a little hard to explain in a few sentences but I'll give you a short example:

Things like companies, trademarks, intellectual "property", patents, etc... only exists because the legal system and the government makes sure they are enforced. They are granted by the bureaucracy and I do think that transferring them should only be possible based on merit or in some cases not at all.
A concrete example would be when you get a drivers license. You have to fulfill the necessary requirements to get one and you can't sell it.
Of course this is an extreme example and a nuanced approach would be appropriate.
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Ebenezer Sedgetodge - Sun, 15 Dec 2019 19:22:04 EST E2Yofruj No.181492 Reply
To be clear I still think companies should be profit driven but the entity that represents it should not be allowed to be "traded" in the traditional sense.
The stock market would still exist but you could only invest not acquire.
I would limit the maximum amount of stocks a company can ever issue to 49.9% of it's value so this still can be enforced.
The core principle would be something like "You can't sell a concept"
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Reuben Dadgebire - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 00:51:01 EST g+vb2gyp No.181499 Reply
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>>181487
>Though the Heyes code and McCarthy did their best to control it, and Fox panders, they are still probably, mostly independent, right?
Capitalist media cannot be independent.
It exists to generate profit for and disseminate propaganda that benefits the capitalist class.
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Hugh Chittingstedge - Mon, 16 Dec 2019 03:49:50 EST Oi89F67V No.181500 Reply
>>181499

I agree,

That grammar is all wrong.

They are mostly right. Indpenedent? No, Money down!
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Basil Brookstock - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:36:20 EST E2Yofruj No.181682 Reply
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>>181681
What exactly is this about?
Changing the default search engine for chrome on android is already a thing.
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Edward Gicklechudge - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 03:44:45 EST /uD0ZtyU No.181685 Reply
Yep, won't ever happen. Give even people like AOC 20 more years and let the money keep flowing and she will be another HRC type just raking in dough because living the good life is a lot nicer than righting the wrongs of the world. Funny enough, in 20 years, people will actually start giving AOC power and positions in government besides the lowly state rep. But by then she will be a corporate shill like the rest of them.
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Shit Sinkinnot - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 12:25:17 EST Dg4SuPXx No.181691 Reply
>>181682
not the default search engine in chrome, the built in OS search engine, like when you hold the home button down or say ok google
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Shitting Semmledire - Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:46:49 EST 4scaaRdR No.181693 Reply
>>181685

lol dude you sound like my grandpa

"how about that climate change?" "AL GORE AL GORE"

"how about that president?" "OBAMA OBAMA"

"how about megacorporations?" "AOC AOC"
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FAANG - Tue, 31 Dec 2019 21:47:05 EST kyZxs/x0 No.181750 Reply
Facebook
Amazon
Apple
Netflix
Google
~ the type of corporations that cyberpunk writers are afraid of...
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Sophie Drerryford - Thu, 02 Jan 2020 18:09:48 EST md8gMOba No.181784 Reply
>>181750
With the sole exception of Netflix all four of them are indeed definitely as genuinely evil as Monsanto, Exxon, and Bank of America. I really have no idea why anybody keeps pretending they are somehow more "progressive" or friends of the so called left in America. They are all completely fucking evil and I wish nothing upon them but plague and smallpox just like I do with Walmart. Not the lower class people getting shafted, which of course these companies horrifically abuse and then get shafted as the punching bag for peoples well justified wrath at companies and they don't even get rewarded for their service.

I'll say it again I hope all the people ruling these companies catch smallpox and die.
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(Hey boys and girls is this your frisbee?) - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 08:31:44 EST CtDMJRHo No.181960 Reply
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>>181473
>Stop posting Tezuka, you're dead.
Shaddup Muggsy!
User is currently banned from all boards
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(Hey boys and girls is this your frisbee?) - Fri, 10 Jan 2020 09:34:08 EST CtDMJRHo No.181961 Reply
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>>181960
Puck retarded.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Lillian Hiddlestock - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 01:54:38 EST 40pbmk0m No.182129 Reply
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Amazon is the new Walmart?
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Ian Grandway - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 06:57:26 EST /koWgFFp No.182562 Reply
>>182365
No wonder Apple and Linux and Android users hate Microsoft.
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Hedda Crottingfoot - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 12:08:44 EST OST7ik4g No.182570 Reply
>>182562
Stop replying to yourself and bumping your fucking thread

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