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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Year of the Rat spreading plague

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- Thu, 23 Jan 2020 06:26:23 EST /koWgFFp No.182131
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SARs variant on the loose in China
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-officials-quarantine-entire-city-2020-1
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Simon Giffingham - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:04:46 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.182134 Reply
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>Chinese Year of the Rat
>China spawns global epidemic
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Polly Crunningnore - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:14:40 EST OkNevB+j No.182137 Reply
2020 is going to suck.
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Doris Barringnot - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 04:43:13 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182149 Reply
>>182146
I have a feeling that this thing is being REALLY downplayed by China if they've decided to start sealing cities.
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Eugene Dellerhood - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:46:39 EST lv6Tw3Xa No.182155 Reply
>>182149
Not to forget that the CCP is probably covering a lot of deaths to save face.
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Eugene Dellerhood - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:51:17 EST lv6Tw3Xa No.182156 Reply
Then again, SARs wasn't that big of a deal, so maybe this won't be either

Still, viruses are scary
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Jack Neddledadge - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 16:18:19 EST tTnap6yB No.182157 Reply
Oh this is going to be fine.

It isn't like its a virus with a long latency and potentially fatal symptoms.

It isn't like it hasn't sprung up in one of the most densely populated countries in the world at a time when almost everyone is on holiday traveling to their hometowns to visit family.

It isn't as though. Ah its fine. Don't worry
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Simon Farrybanks - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:31:51 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.182159 Reply
Well this went from meme to fucking terrifying.

Especially the fact of latency up to two weeks, and asymptomatic carriers. This is already worldwide, give it a week.
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Thomas Drollycocke - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:50:56 EST oAfHosj8 No.182160 Reply
>>182131
Someone from China told me it began from people eating Bats 🦇 at this restaurant and when people got sick the owner tried covering it up. Poof. Now you have a spread thanks to some dickhead chinaman feeding people bats.
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Charles Challerkadge - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:59:10 EST 4scaaRdR No.182161 Reply
>>182160

Dude, please, Asian American is the preferred nomenclature, Dude.
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Betsy Sadgefot - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:05:04 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.182162 Reply
>>182160

That's actually false. We don't know where it came from, but it came from animals and most likely snakes. Though this might change, the genetics doesn't lie.

SARS came from bats it seems, who then infected the cibet cat who infected humans. That's the leading theory, and probably where this myth came from.

Anyways, this is why you don't let a bunch of species meet for the very first time, like in the exotic animal market of Wuhan. Once it jumps once it got the mutation to jump more.

That was the lesson of SARS and the Chinese didn't learn a thing.
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Reuben Cinkinbury - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:51:22 EST tTnap6yB No.182163 Reply
>>182161

These aren't the people that built the railroads.The american war in south east asia is a national embarrassment the United States that has not since been forgotten
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Reuben Cinkinbury - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 19:54:10 EST tTnap6yB No.182164 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Eugene Sevingfune - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 02:43:46 EST oAfHosj8 No.182172 Reply
>>182162
> and the Chinese didnt learn a thing
> Chinese
> learning from mistakes
you expect too much of them.
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Hugh Soddlepork - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 04:50:22 EST 1tm8OHsL No.182173 Reply
So how do we stop this cheeky virus?
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Jack Bunham - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 09:56:01 EST PMjbdMQ/ No.182176 Reply
>>182173

Apparently people were eating bats n shit. We can start by not doing that.
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Cornelius Sullychug - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 10:02:05 EST lv6Tw3Xa No.182177 Reply
>>182173
Practice good hygiene, limit travel and crowded places & keep in good shape.
Other than that all you can do is to hope for the best.

You will almost certainly be okay anyhow, viruses are scary but this happens regularly.

>>182176

This isn't a bat related virus, it came originally from snakes IIRC, and who cares when the bats are decently cooked?

But they have to stop with those fucking open food market where meat, veggies and FUCKING LIVESTOCK is being sold at the same overcrowded place.
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Lillian Cronderbotch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 07:22:35 EST Bs8cv2LR No.182192 Reply
>>182173
Modern outbreaks aren't dangerous if you practice basic hygiene and stay physically healthy like the other guy said. Not only that, there are active outbreaks and festering endemic diseases out there way bigger than SARS 2020 will ever be, and you don't hear about them because they aren't in countries that America has an interest in maligning. I won't tell you to wake up, but I really think you should be more critical with what you read and try to put it in context, and not just react.
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Isabella Wisslefatch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 10:03:04 EST 4scaaRdR No.182193 Reply
>>182163

I HAVE BUDDIES WHO DIED FACE DOWN IN THE MUCK SO WE COULD SIT HERE AND ENJOY THIS FAMILY RESTAURANT.
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James Blellerspear - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 11:56:22 EST Dg4SuPXx No.182194 Reply
>>182177
Its known in both bats and snakes, nobody knows the original carrier that made the jump, it very well could have been bats but the bat memes are cause of some weibo hoax showing a bowl of bat soup and claiming the restaurant that serves it was the source

The actual source was an open air market and if it was because of bat or snake or whatever else meat it was because the people butchering those animals inhaled aerosol blood sprays

You cant get pneumonia from eating anything, its a respiratory virus it doesnt go through your stomach

The bat soup memes have done a very good job of exposing blatant racism though
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Phoebe Surringlog - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 12:11:09 EST +8irr0Qf No.182195 Reply
>>182194
Chinese eating habits are genuinely disgusting. It only show how much more disgusting is eating any kind of animal carcasses with no limits but eating all murdered animals is disgusting and create and spread disease. Chinese are just worst example of this on Earth.
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Eugene Croffingstock - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:05:18 EST HNjso1OQ No.182197 Reply
>>182195
See, that's the kind of unnecessary unironically and unashamedly racist bullshit that tags onto the end of stories like this, and that's what nobody needs or wants.
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Phoebe Doshfield - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:32:14 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182198 Reply
>>182195
Why are you talking about eating habits when again, this thing wasn't spread via eating. It was spread via cost cutting in neglecting hygiene.
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Nigel Pallytit - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:12:29 EST fSlq9ETD No.182200 Reply
>>182196
>from Taiwan
You similarly should not trust Taiwanese of telling you truth more than PRC sources. Koreans, Japanese, and Taiwanese all will spread bullshit about China. Also, HK protestors. Biases and untruthfulness does from one side does not excuse other to find facts. But, yes China probably already has tens of thousands infected right now. PRC would never lockdown entire cities and harm their economy if it was not serious.
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Shitting Mecklewitch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:12:33 EST GW1axdWk No.182201 Reply
>>182195
Thanks for perfectly illustrating the weird irrational racism that gets unearthed every time the media manufactures these unnecessary panics around disease outbreaks in East Asia.
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James Blellerspear - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:17:01 EST Dg4SuPXx No.182202 Reply
>>182200
especially when that Taiwanese source's own source is Weibo
might as well be putting up stories about America starting with "according to facebook"
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Nigel Pallytit - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:17:31 EST fSlq9ETD No.182203 Reply
>>182201
I am not that original pidor and I do not know why my code is changed. I am +8irr. Clearly this is problem in general of Chinese sanitation. But, when you say such a obviously false bullshit I will call you for it. Chinese eating habits are well known. More important, it show how all animal eating habits is disgusting and spread disease. Chinese just take to such extreme level of eating anything that moves it even make Western corpse eaters uncomfortable. If it make you feel any better, you similarly disgust me for eating your bacon and burger. Want not being offended? Have butthurt? Go tell Chinese to stop eating bats and cats and dogs. Then maybe you won't suffer from such butthurt.
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Nigel Pallytit - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:32:39 EST fSlq9ETD No.182204 Reply
Also when I say, your woke faggot butthurt does not concern me I think it funny thing to add, that clearly you only suffer a butthurt because you probably is some insulated bourgeois suburban USA kid. No one here say things this extreme for example
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/chinas-eating-habits-could-bring-about-the-end-of-the-human-race-malayasian-pm-mahathir-mohammeds-media-advisor
Maybe, you should also send email for telling these Southeast Asians how butthurt you are about their racism too no?
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Phoebe Doshfield - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 14:52:37 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182205 Reply
>>182204
I think you can fit a few more butthurts in there friend.

Also, you're totally not triggered.
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Clara Dobbledit - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 18:49:00 EST dZDaQqJv No.182222 Reply
>>182204
Malaysians aren't too keen on foods that aren't halal, you have to either be aware there is some cultural bias going on there or one of those people that picks and chooses what sources are valid when they agree with the narrative they present.

Personally I agree with them but I'm aware it's my own personal preference. Western factory farmed meat processing has brought us things like mad cow disease, so maybe the answer is a happy medium between only eating hooved herbivores and fish that have been killed by an old Somali man and eating any and everything with any kind of protien content.

I sometimes go to butcher shops in America and there is "exotic" meats for purchase, things like gator and opossum are starting to be seen as down home, wholesome, hillbilly chic that the carnivore diet crowd in "real America" seems to be readily embarrassing. Also, the Trump administration has loosened sanitation regulations on US pork processing twice in the last year.

Plus the damage to the land and atmosphere being done by US meat consumption and the rest of the world trying to have the same diet will probably create more problems for human survival than a bunch of weird hill people accidentally getting the plague from eating a prairie dog.
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Thomas Windlelotch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:24:49 EST GW1axdWk No.182226 Reply
>>182218
>developing an irrational fear about otherwise mundane food items because you believed the TeeVee when it lied about how respiratory diseases get transferred in non-white countries
one of the most boomer things you could possibly do but go off, grandpa
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Nell Soshkut - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:28:22 EST FBj0Lg9+ No.182227 Reply
Is there any evidence that this respiratory infection can be transmitted by eating cooked meat, or is that just a meme?
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Augustus Goodfield - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 19:34:30 EST Dg4SuPXx No.182230 Reply
>>182227
entirely a meme, if the original source was a bat or any other kind of exotic animal being used for food then the infection would have come from breathing in things while in close contact with it, butchering it or keeping it live in pens and such
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Betsy Pebbleman - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 02:30:33 EST tTnap6yB No.182241 Reply
>>182199

Nice wikipedia as a news source faggot.

Read what you're quoting and you'll realize that the 'tradition' is contentious and not supported by many outside of the district it is held in.

And it is a korean tradition.

And its a dog whistle, hehehe, cause chinese people eating weird things was never really the concern
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Edwin Brellyhall - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:48:38 EST glTXoVFh No.182244 Reply
>>182241
Why are you bickering over this anyway? It's got nothing to do with anything. It's a racist redpill.
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Cornelius Hezzlebit - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:02:27 EST +8irr0Qf No.182251 Reply
>>182241
Hahaha so now, you apparently do not accept your wikipedia either? China eats dogs. This is well known. I have no idea what kind of retard sheltered bourgeois suburban North American you must be to get so butthurted from this reality.
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Charles Hundleville - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:00:47 EST dZDaQqJv No.182257 Reply
>>182251
Was it dog or bat that caused this outbreak?

One of the purposes of dog until very recently has been food like all other domesticated animals. It's not ideal and dogs have evolved to counter this by having expressive faces humans find cute, that's why they have bigger eyes and more facial muscles than wild counter parts. In some ways dogs have mastered people, they have traveled wherever we have including space and all they have to do is make noise when someone gets close to our houses.

Do you think this is the only place in the world they eat bats or wild animals for that matter? For the most part they are trying their hardest to produce as much beef and pork per capita as the US which should be just devastating to the global ecology. There's another thread on here about Brazil being more open to foreign investments now, just in time for cattle to be grown on the charred remnants of the Amazon.

Using current events, especially disease outbreaks, to push a greater political agenda fueled by xenophobia is nothing new and it muddies the waters for when an actual scientific consensus on the causes of the disease comes to light. Already you've shifted the goalpost from a wild animal not traditionally used for food to one of the oldest domesticated species on the planet, I feel like you are trying to move everyone along to a conclusion you've already made rather than separate the pepper from the fly shit as they say.
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Martha Megglewell - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:24:04 EST /zjWiBDq No.182259 Reply
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>bickering while the world is ending
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Charles Hundleville - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:54:41 EST dZDaQqJv No.182260 Reply
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>>182259
Is the sun expanding sometime soon? Is there an unavoidable meteor the size of the moon hurling at us?
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Ebenezer Guzzleson - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 06:40:34 EST RgHb/3eW No.182263 Reply
remember when the western world had to kill basically all cattle because they forced them to cannibalise eachother and basically invented a new neurodegenerative disease?

Me neither haha Asian people sure do eat different food to us.
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Fanny Chashsore - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 07:33:45 EST j1sOQY2T No.182266 Reply
>>182263
Or remember when the Spanish flu came into existence on an American pig farm?
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Ebenezer Guzzleson - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:05:14 EST RgHb/3eW No.182267 Reply
>>182266
cool

i didn't know that.

Didn't the spanish flue kill more people then WW1?
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Eugene Dettingbury - Thu, 30 Jan 2020 07:47:34 EST ggPWwDH9 No.182309 Reply
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China can build a hospital in ten days to respond to an outbreak. There are outbreaks worse than this all the time. If you don't have a functional health surveillance program (like the US doesn't) you're dead anyway from one of the hundreds of other bugs floating around in your environment.
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Isabella Pittbanks - Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:53:46 EST lLlxhONa No.182313 Reply
>>182311
there are 8100 confirmed cases in china. lets round up and say 200 deaths. even if it was 100 times worse, the amount of deaths in china would constitute 1.44 X 10
-5% of china's population.
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Henry Nicklecocke - Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:33:28 EST lv6Tw3Xa No.182315 Reply
>>182314


As of 23:59 Jan 29, there are officially:

7711 confirmed cases in China across 31 provinces
:lime5794 suspected cases in 30 provinces. 81947/88693 are under medical observation
170 deaths and 1370 are severe cases. 162/170 deaths occurred in Hubei province (where Wuhan is). The rest are within various provinces in China

17 deaths range from 48-89 years old. 14/17 deaths are of the elderly above 65 years old. Most have pre-existing conditions that seem to predispose to a more severe disease presentation. People who are already sick prior to infection may be more at risk due to decreased immunity. Some of these people had hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease. Death was typically the result of severe respiratory failure but includes others like multi-organ failure. Info on some of the remaining deaths is currently unknown

Healthy people have died
124 people recovered



Of the first 425 patients: 240 (56%) were male. No cases for children under age 15. 84 cases for ages 15-44. 179 cases between ages 45-64. 162 cases for age 65 and over. Incubation period for the first 425 patients was 5.2 days. Nearly half of cases occurred people over age 60. It's possible that children are infected but show milder symptoms. In the coming weeks, once developed, a seroprevalence study (where we test your blood serum) will give us a much better idea.
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Archie Snodworth - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 00:04:53 EST dZDaQqJv No.182324 Reply
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>>182315
>No cases for children under age 15
That's a different plague, right after the Yangtze turns red.
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Cyril Murdstock - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 01:42:59 EST eW7lNgCN No.182326 Reply
>>182192

>there are active outbreaks and festering endemic diseases out there way bigger than SARS 2020 will ever be, and you don't hear about them because they aren't in countries that America has an interest

The first which comes to mind for me is Ebola, or Marburg. Nearly the same thing anyway. Nature has its hidden monsters tucked away in the caves, waiting to join us.
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Polly Hallerforth - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 07:30:05 EST tlilhxRg No.182328 Reply
>>182315
So its a boomer killer?

Okay, I no longer care about the corona virus.
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Martin Crickletidging - Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:28:45 EST GetU3kJC No.182331 Reply
On January 31, 2020, 1347 new cases of pneumonia caused by new coronavirus infection were added in Hubei Province (including: 576 in Wuhan, 41 in Huangshi, 27 in Shiyan, 61 in Xiangyang, and Yichang 109 cases, 66 cases in Jingzhou City, 24 cases in Jingmen City, 38 cases in Ezhou City, 87 cases in Xiaogan City, 153 cases in Huanggang City, 40 cases in Xianning City, 76 cases in Suizhou City, 12 cases in Enshi Prefecture, 7 cases in Xiantao City, and Tianmen City 15 cases, 15 cases in Qianjiang City, and 0 cases in Shennongjia Forest District). There were 45 new deaths in the province (among them: 33 in Wuhan, 1 in Huangshi, 1 in Jingzhou, 3 in Ezhou, 3 in Xiaogan, 2 in Huanggang, 1 in Suizhou, and 1 in Tianmen) . There were 50 new discharges (including: 36 in Wuhan, 1 in Jingzhou, 1 in Jingmen, 11 in Huanggang, and 1 in Xianning).

As of 24:00 on January 31, 2020, Hubei Province has reported 7,153 cases of pneumonitis with new type of coronavirus infection (including 3215 cases in Wuhan, 209 cases in Huangshi City, 177 cases in Shiyan City, 347 cases in Xiangyang City, and 276 cases in Yichang City). 287 cases in Jingzhou, 251 in Jingmen, 227 in Ezhou, 628 in Xiaogan, 726 in Huanggang, 206 in Xianning, 304 in Suizhou, 87 in Enshi, 97 in Xiantao, and 82 in Tianmen , 27 cases in Qianjiang City, 7 cases in Shennongjia Forest District), 166 cases have been cured and 249 patients have died (among them: 192 in Wuhan, 2 in Huangshi, 1 in Yichang, 4 in Jingzhou, and 5 in Jingmen (9 cases in Ezhou City, 12 cases in Xiaogan City, 14 cases in Huanggang City, 1 case in Suizhou, 1 case in Xiantao City, 7 cases in Tianmen City, and 1 case in Qianjiang City). At present, 6738 cases are still being treated in the hospital (among them: 956 cases of severe illness and 338 cases of critical illness), all of them are receiving isolation treatment at designated medical institutions. A total of 41,075 close contacts have been tracked, and 36,838 people are still undergoing medical observation.

(Seems to be the latest update. I hope this formats correctly.)
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Rebecca Chankinwug - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 01:06:53 EST dZDaQqJv No.182333 Reply
>>182332
Is the "lethality" rate the same as the transmission rate? The common cold transfers pretty fast and isn't that lethal. Is it 4 times more people that are infected total or 4 times more that are infected die? I don't have time to read that horribly formatted pdf and follow along with math because I'm stoned and that's honestly a waste of weed. I have a feeling you read it and don't understand it and if a smart guy like you can't get it what chance does a simpleton like I have? It seems to me like 4 is an average family size and if one person in a household gets it everyone will which makes sense.
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Samuel Sonninglock - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 01:10:56 EST 8ZtJ4DLT No.182334 Reply
>>182333

I'm not going to pretend i read it in its entirety nor fully understood it all. However others are saying it says that and from what I've read, it does indeed say that. For perspective, the average flu is said to spread with a infection rate if 1.5 people per person who has the flu. Ncov is said to infect 4 or more people per person who has it.
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Nathaniel Tootridge - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 09:38:54 EST qslDy3vO No.182346 Reply
>>182333
Tens of thousands of Americans die every year from the flu.
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Samuel Sonninglock - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 10:34:51 EST 8ZtJ4DLT No.182347 Reply
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>>182346


Hope you aren't one of those people comparing the two as the same
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Nathaniel Tootridge - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:06:21 EST qslDy3vO No.182348 Reply
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>>182347
I hope you're not suggesting that a country like China with a robust and active health surveillance system isn't totally capable of dealing with this (much less worse than SARS or ebola) epidemic, or that the only reason you're shitting yourself isn't that your overgrown banana republic would never hope to contain it.
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Nathaniel Tootridge - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 11:11:38 EST qslDy3vO No.182349 Reply
>>182347
What I mean is, you Google epidemiologists don't realize that the predictor of your survivability in an epidemic situation had nothing at all to do with the epidemic, it's 100% on your public health surveillance system's ability to respond. If I need help with my discussion section though I'll come right to you for those numbers.
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Nathaniel Hesslegold - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 15:30:23 EST GetU3kJC No.182357 Reply
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>>182311
Recently released and translated video from the same man. He's on the ground in Wuhan, acting ostensibly as a citizen journalist. Worth a watch, too.
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Shit Pecklewill - Sat, 01 Feb 2020 23:28:31 EST 8ZtJ4DLT No.182363 Reply
>>182348
>>182349

Which is why the death rate will only increase with a continuous outspread of the virus, since the medical system will be overwhelmed?
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Jack Drollerhood - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 03:21:45 EST 8zz7iWpH No.182368 Reply
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who gives a shit. if you look at the flu and other common diseases this is nothing, all the fear mongering is racialised trash just like every other time
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Shit Pecklewill - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 03:35:34 EST 8ZtJ4DLT No.182369 Reply
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>>182368

Nha man. The chinese government didnt lock down entire cities and compromise a lot of social stability as well as economic growth..... to protect people over something as harmless as the flu. The flu doesnt kill 300 people for every 12000 people it infects. This is like a full blown nightmare, dont shoot the messenger.
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Angus Blackwell - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 03:46:45 EST 1+aHmNqD No.182371 Reply
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>>182368
Pandemic, epidemic. The black plague killed many people.
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Barnaby Brookshit - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 08:41:11 EST jsASfoVz No.182374 Reply
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>>182369
Do you get tripped up by the 11 fingers joke too? That's not how epidemiology works. The temperature of the media-driven fear over this is way lower than SARS, it's like they don't even have to try to get you people to believe obvious nonsense.
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Shit Pecklewill - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 08:55:30 EST 8ZtJ4DLT No.182376 Reply
>>182374

What are you even talking about? SARS isnt spreading around the globe is it? No, no it isnt. Of course the media is talking about nCov then, instead of sars. Go marry sars if its so much prettier geez.
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Barnaby Brookshit - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 09:22:20 EST jsASfoVz No.182378 Reply
>>182376
When did it become cool to promote American state propaganda?
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Caroline Handlebuck - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 17:03:11 EST +8irr0Qf No.182386 Reply
>>182378
This is actually chinabot.
>>182368
This is complete lies and obvious PRC propaganda. Death rate of flu is 0.005%. Death rate of nCoV2019 is 3%. You are retarded chinabot.
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Betsy Lightwell - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 18:58:23 EST Dg4SuPXx No.182387 Reply
>>182386
it genuinely makes you seem incredibly stupid when you can't actually tell the obvious bot posts apart from people who might disagree with you

chinabot has literally never posted anything even resembling those posts you responded to, it posts like this, it always posts like this >>182364
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Caroline Crerringfoot - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 21:10:39 EST +8irr0Qf No.182388 Reply
>>182387
Operator behind chinabot is spewing obvious Chinese propaganda almost word for word. Difference? None.
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Ian Soblingstock - Sun, 02 Feb 2020 22:02:47 EST GW1axdWk No.182389 Reply
>>182387
He can definitely tell the difference, he's just pretending not to in order to avoid dealing with opinions other than his own.

Accusing your opponent of being a spooky Asian robot is just the trendy new way of ducking out of arguments that aren't going the way you want them to.
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Caroline Crerringfoot - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 07:22:15 EST +8irr0Qf No.182392 Reply
>>182389
I am accusing him of following script of moronic PRC talking points or somebody else talking points instead of thinking for self
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Nicholas Sumblelut - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 09:38:29 EST qZeDVg4N No.182393 Reply
>>182392
In response to what? Doomsayers like you? Whereas, as an actual person not in China I can say that you're a fucking idiot and you're spreading fear because you scroll and scroll and scroll your Facebook day after day after day and it has smoothed out your brain. Smoothed it right the fuck out. You are rebroadcasting and amplifying propaganda put out by the American government against its economic competition. Your gullibility has been weaponized.
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Hamilton Clayshaw - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 09:42:20 EST /zjWiBDq No.182394 Reply
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>>182393
You're a genuine blindered idiot if you think the virus story is all American propaganda. The rest of your post is just words without content.
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Nicholas Sumblelut - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 09:55:05 EST qZeDVg4N No.182396 Reply
>>182394
And you're one of those people who builds a strawman and attacks it. Spreading fear through out of context videos and misrepresented, incomplete data from fringe/alt-news sources is just doing what the government wants. Neck yourself.
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Hamilton Clayshaw - Mon, 03 Feb 2020 09:58:35 EST /zjWiBDq No.182398 Reply
>>182396
>fringe sources
Oh so you're both an idiot AND you didn't read the thread. Amazing. Ignored.
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William Sellergold - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 02:16:56 EST tTnap6yB No.182411 Reply
There is a virus. It is a very good virus. We live in a biological warfare age.

Maybe somebody made the virus. There would be several ways to find that out. Maybe there was disease research center in wuhan that experiments on diseases.

I think the problem I have with this story is assuming that the chinese are inherently incompetent, untrustworthy and prone to disease due to poor hygiene and dietary practices.

Hygiene in rural china sucks, in cities it is pretty bad. Spitting, not washing hands, basic misunderstandings on the causes of disease. Lack of public education. Those are things that china can and should be criticized for.

Eating dogs not so much, or bats or whatever. Fuck it, you're just a snob who thinks your fancy kosher law, or halal or whatever is the only way to eat.

Treating animals poorly and then eating them, without using much antibiotic, also a thing, internationally, disgusting and a cause of unnecessary suffering and disease.

So china just accidentally their own population? Nah, probably not. Just because you have peasants in your country doesn't mean the peasants are running the country.
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Shit Sockleforth - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 12:15:18 EST GetU3kJC No.182425 Reply
>>182422
Racist in what sense? It looks more like a criticism of a country/culture than "yellow people are bad".
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Shitting Doshfield - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 13:54:39 EST nl2d8xF+ No.182428 Reply
>>182425
Because China is not unique in the factors mentioned, and in fact when it comes to the ability to respond to a health crisis, China is way better equipped than most. Looking at it from the other side, the only reason you'd mention the hygiene of rural people in this context (which is disgusting no matter where you're from) is to specifically malign Chinese people, just piggybacking on nonsense virus hysteria. It means nothing other than to say "eew Chinese people are sooo gross". That's why it's racist.
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William Sellergold - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:22:15 EST tTnap6yB No.182432 Reply
>>182428

Listen up m'boy, if you calling that racist I don't think we're gonna find much to discuss. I've lived there for years, I speak the language, I've written a book about the culture and traditions. I specifically discussed what is dogwhistle bullshit and what is cause for concern.

You go shit in a ditch for 6 months and see the wealth disparity and come away acting like criticism of the leadership of the country failing its people is racist.

Til then, peace and may all your decisions be good ones
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Edward Dreckleford - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:51:05 EST mEk112iu No.182434 Reply
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>MFW my Chinese-born co-worker keeps coughing and sneezing today
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Hugh Cublinggold - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:13:08 EST +8irr0Qf No.182435 Reply
>>182428
Their poor hygiene and dietary habits is literal reason this happened
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Shit Sockleforth - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 17:18:42 EST GetU3kJC No.182436 Reply
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>>182428
Oh, so you don't know what racism means. Gotcha.
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Matilda Fenkindock - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 18:55:29 EST 6XJpXCBK No.182438 Reply
>>182435
Spoken like a true Republican, build that wall amirite?
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Edwin Blingermire - Tue, 04 Feb 2020 21:03:47 EST 5+DqDYaU No.182443 Reply
>>182432
You'll pretend Appalachia doesn't exist until the day you die from gut rot.
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Phyllis Siblingdale - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 01:22:52 EST GetU3kJC No.182445 Reply
>>182444
>blurrrrp talking about or criticizing another country/culture is racism BLURRRRP
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Cedric Bunderbanks - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 01:58:01 EST +8irr0Qf No.182446 Reply
>>182438
I am not even USAian you stupid fuck. This why I respect none of you. You all is so absorbed in your own psychotic circus you not even see how you appear from outside. This why I think your brains are trash. Everything people said about sovoks, it is true for you. I dealt with too many your people online to think this is trolling. All of you, as nation, are brain damaged. Fact of left wing not even existing in USA and being so hyper capitalist and right wing probably big part of it. Yeah, become absorbed in circlejerk culture and apps amirite? Let us do delegates things apps. Let us let CIA and billionaires in this and fuck mr. Sanders out of Iowa amirite?

I just wanted to say, you disgust me. You are like poltard. You are nothing but identitarian hyper capitalists with head so far up own ass cannot see anything different with brains for shit.
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Phyllis Siblingdale - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 02:28:52 EST GetU3kJC No.182449 Reply
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>>182446
Fuck what anybody else says, you're straight up one of the best posters on this site. Your posts are consistently sincere, thoughtful, and entertaining. Keep it up.
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Ebenezer Gunnermick - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 08:37:55 EST GW1axdWk No.182453 Reply
>>182446
>I am not even USAian you stupid fuck.
And yet you act exactly like one of them.

The Bible thumping superstition, the xenophobia, the performative impotent rageposting, the archaic homophobia, the trust you place in American news outlets drumming up fear for the plague-of-the-month, the dumb provincialism, the lack of education, the narcissism, and the fact that you appear to have lead poisoning if your posting style is anything to go by.

Must be a sad existence, having all the brain worms and personality defects of Burgerland without even getting to enjoy any of the burgers
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Edward Billingdock - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 16:45:01 EST OST7ik4g No.182459 Reply
>>182449
My favorite part is that the way he writes english is almost a 1:1 copy of the stereotypical way a Russian character speaks English in tv shows.
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Nicholas Blappermitch - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:12:31 EST h5n3fheo No.182486 Reply
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>Ridiculously contagious super-virus that can re-infect survivors spreads like wildfire in most populous country on the planet, they're taking Orwellian level measures to try and contain it
>Corpses are contagious, sweat is contagious, feces are contagious, breath is contagious, FARTS ARE CONTAGIOUS
>MFW you inbred motherfuckers manage to turn a bona-fide medical catastrophe into a racist pissing contest
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Emma Sessleford - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 16:16:37 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182487 Reply
>>182486
>Ridiculously contagious super-virus that can re-infect survivors spreads like wildfire in most populous country on the planet, they're taking Orwellian level measures to try and contain it
>Corpses are contagious, sweat is contagious, feces are contagious, breath is contagious, FARTS

[Citation Needed]
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Ernest Dabberstone - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 17:03:29 EST +8irr0Qf No.182492 Reply
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>>182486
You forgot best part: it already spread to India now
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David Durringbanks - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 17:04:42 EST GetU3kJC No.182493 Reply
>>182492
Also probably spreading in Africa, they just don't have any kind of reasonably testing capabilities.
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Charlotte Bibberford - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 17:21:49 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.182494 Reply
>>182411

Nah. SARS was born from the same shit. Wet markeds where they put a bunch of exotic animals together with their exotic viruses for eating in horrible sanitary conditions. Perfect for non-human viruses to mingle and make the jump.

SARS was the wake-up call, and the Chinese kept sleeping. Now we got what we all feared what that virus could be. Sometimes humans just have to learn it the hard way.
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James Tootman - Thu, 06 Feb 2020 23:00:17 EST +8irr0Qf No.182504 Reply
>>182496
Looks like you are completely retarded and probably cheeseburger brain clogged fatso
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Albert Serringwill - Fri, 07 Feb 2020 14:03:56 EST GetU3kJC No.182519 Reply
>>182518
This guy has posted several videos since then, and allegedly been detained by authorities for "body temperature."

Presented chronologically:

His subsequent 3 videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhgtRhWh240&feature=emb_title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQc_jRl1YA&feature=emb_title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGHUQjlWWr8&feature=emb_title

Video from his mother, posted to his twitter, stating that he went to investigate something and didn't return

https://twitter.com/chenqiushi404/status/1225483944273027076

Videos from today seeming to confirm that he's been disappeared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL9w7TRImK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5RPUIqaavk
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David Bummleshit - Fri, 07 Feb 2020 14:20:14 EST p4j1AMuW No.182520 Reply
>>182519
fuck man, he knew it would happen too

if only more people had integrity / honor like that toward life
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Augustus Dartwill - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:17:06 EST /VqID5IX No.182539 Reply
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So what do you think, will people in places with much less pervasive air pollution fall victim to this pneumonia-causing disease just as easily?

And will those measures imposed by the Chinese government on their no-gunz population like welding shut people's homes, building concentration camps etc. also fly in the US, or will the government be too scared of having their agents get shot by the armed citizenry?
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Nicholas Hadgesin - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:19:03 EST ULi4WK/V No.182540 Reply
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I hope it's not as bad as I think it is, but I fear it might be even worse.
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Nell Pockforth - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:19:51 EST GetU3kJC No.182541 Reply
>>182540
This was clearly faked, my guy. Inspect element + 45 seconds of effort.
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Graham Blozzlebedge - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:20:03 EST GW1axdWk No.182542 Reply
>>182539
>will the government be too scared of having their agents get shot by the armed citizenry?
The government would never be afraid of that because they know they could just blame it on Mexicans and you retards would eat that shit up.
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Nicholas Hadgesin - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 14:37:39 EST ULi4WK/V No.182543 Reply
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>>182541
By this point it doesn't matter if the official numbers we are getting are real or fake because they are not in any way indicative of the real situation.
To put it bluntly, they are useless.
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Matilda Meshson - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 16:58:23 EST b41zBZff No.182545 Reply
>>182543

meanwhile people dont seem to get the terrible times ahead of us as the virus is extremely likely to spread throughout other countries incredibly fast. They just say its only the old people who will die and try to forget it or straight up deny it, like some absurd state of denial.
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Walter Movinglare - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 17:07:50 EST sbtM+5iz No.182546 Reply
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>>182545
No gun = pregue inc.
More gun = Unfectionator


Plague inc. Or Infectionator
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Augustus Femmerstock - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 17:55:31 EST +8irr0Qf No.182549 Reply
>>182547
There is one single French bulldog who don't belong perched above best head in middle right side.

I also detected major problem from this virus.
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Sophie Gollerchudge - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 20:44:43 EST +8irr0Qf No.182552 Reply
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>>182550
I can tell how incredibly frightened you are. Tell me your troubles.
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Hugh Dossleman - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 23:21:38 EST ULi4WK/V No.182553 Reply
Some say that the Coronavirus originated from wild animals others that it was laboratory made.
I don't really know the answer to that, but it sure picked a perfect spot.
Apart from its high population density, low hygiene standards and multitude of wet markets
Wuhan also contains the only official biosafety level 4 laboratory in China located near the wet market where the virus is thought to have originated.
Make of that what you will.

A handful of people tried to get the warning out in December, but they got stifled quickly.
The government knew about it as early as 3rd January, but they only quarantined the area on the 23rd.
I feel it's pretty telling of the situation or at least what the Chinese government thinks of the situation when they quarantined millions of people.
It took them a while to issue the quarantine, therefore the highly infectious virus
with an incubation phase of 14 days during which it can still spread, has almost a month of head start.

After the quarantine was declared the hospitals tried to deal with the situation as best as they could, but it doesn't take a genius to realize that they were understaffed, unprepared,
short on supplies and lacking proper quarters to handle this. Medical workers slave away all day, with little time to eat, shit or rest. Many of them seem to end up getting infected, quarantined or dead.
Due to the difficulty of securing transportation and a lack of manpower and supplies procuring proper medical treatment is almost impossible, not only for the infected but for most people.
So in many cases they will simply opt to stay at home, unwilling or unable to risk the trip for an almost nonexistent chance of medical assistance.

The PR branch of the government has been hard at work trying to control the flow of information right from the start. The entire thing has been downplayed, likely to prevent panic and save face.
You don't have to look too hard to see they did a decent job at that, at least initially.
However the logistics and procedures that have been put in place in case of such an event seem poorly thought out, partially improvised even.
One would think they'd have a better, more efficient response after what happened with SARS.
In the absence of guidance from the government the local communities had to organize on their own and coordinate the people to keep Wuhan at least somewhat functional.
All these things considered it's no surprise that the general public is left feeling confused, helpless and desperate as a result.
Individuals like Chen Qiushi and Fang Bin have tried taking the matters into their own hands in an attempt to paint a more clear picture of what's going on.
It's them and people like them that we have to thank for what scraps of information we have.

A couple of hospitals were built on a very short notice and a lot of public infrastructure was repurposed into makeshift shelters for the sick.
They are disinfecting the city daily, from the street to the apartment complexes and trying to exercise proper hygiene protocols.
Between these hospitals looking more like prisons and the shelters like quarantines zones for the infected to die in,
government officials welding people shut in their own homes or forcing them into quarantine vehicles in broad daylight
and the bodies left to rot on the streets because there is no one to dispose of them,
I can't help but get the feeling that the Chinese government is more focused on managing the disease rather than treating it.
In that regard the response is eerily similar to the rest of the world - quarantine the sick, lay low and hope this blows over.

That's just Wuhan, soon we are going to see similar developments in other parts of China, perhaps even other countries.
Come and see.

Had to collect my thoughts somewhere after all the information I've absorbed about this in the past few days and this seemed as good a place as any.
tl;dr: I hope it's not as bad as I think it is, but I fear it might be even worse.
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Rebecca Clonningshit - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 02:17:09 EST tTnap6yB No.182557 Reply
>>182540
>>182541

or just look at them artifacts

>>182553

be at peace

>biolab lvl 4 in biowarfare
probably not, blame incompetence maybe, but even then no, unlikely.

>low hygiene, high population density.
well, high population density. class divides are so strong you don't even see the wealthy in china. they're probably fine.

>perfect spot
singapore would be more opportune for international spread.

>unprepared
yes, definitely.

>overworked medical staff
yes, definitely

>people disappeared in broad daylight, people locked at home
have you not been paying attention to china? this is not the government overreaching, this is how they deal with problems.

>lack of top down communication
no, not really how things work. break in communication sure, but lack of direction no.

>Media and PR machine
alive and well, operating in your country more than likely.

>world ending plague
if it isn't everywhere in two weeks, it isn't. if it is, vote for free public healthcare for all citizens and maybe this won't happen again. assuming you can vote.
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Oliver Crembleworth - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 03:55:28 EST inrjKBsu No.182558 Reply
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>>182453
>>182505
Okay, come on now, you're being overly judging of crazy ol' Leon Czołguś.

He such a guy that can very easily, succinctly be described as extra devoutly socially conservative ... and fiscally liberal, which is understood as a very abnormal combination, which is exactly why allusions to Nuremburgh and Nascar country are so unneccessary. See?
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Ian Duckhood - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 04:19:34 EST KcgkuF+m No.182559 Reply
>>182553
>Wuhan also contains the only official biosafety level 4 laboratory in China located near the wet market where the virus is thought to have originated.
Wuhan contains the only everything located near the wet market where the virus is thought to have originated.

>Make of that what you will.
I made a hat!
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Wesley Channerway - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 08:31:01 EST JRH6MkyQ No.182566 Reply
ITT: Americans who don't know what an outbreak response looks like, and Chinese bots egging them on.
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Molly Donderfield - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 13:27:15 EST +8irr0Qf No.182594 Reply
>>182589
So did USA bribe China with new trade agreements to biowarfare DPRK?
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Esther Gittingridge - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 16:55:49 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.182653 Reply
>>182589

No word from NK yet. If it was an official they probably quarantined him and his mother, as well as any that might be connected like anyone the dude texted. But honestly considering their behavior when it comes to hunger they may just let it happen to once more do a purge.

Even the west is spooked af from this thing. 20% get pneumonia from it, with 3-5% severe, no country can handle that shit. We'll live but fucking hell.
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Hugh Pittson - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:43:43 EST IWmxY9Va No.182673 Reply
>>182653
North Korean media themselves reported that they executed one of their own officials by firing squad for breaking his quarantine.
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David Nengerbury - Sat, 22 Feb 2020 23:09:10 EST 40pbmk0m No.182830 Reply
Oh dear
>Coronavirus outbreak in South Korea linked to Shincheonji Christian sect
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Lillian Brookdock - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:34:37 EST aRAdhvmK No.182855 Reply
>>182850
There are ids here, fucking stop... Tell your boss to buy a banner.
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Frederick Purrygold - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:22:39 EST E2Yofruj No.182860 Reply
>>182850
These "leaks" is the Chinese Government flexing.
>Look what we can do, isn't "Communism With Chinese Characteristics™" awesome?
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Lillian Geddlechit - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:27:05 EST jIt5CLGm No.182862 Reply
>>182830
you don't think the NWO has better shit to do then try to kill off people of a religion that's been on it's way out for the last 50 years?
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Hamilton Guvingfield - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:08:30 EST tTnap6yB No.182863 Reply
>>182557

It has been more than two weeks. No mass infection worldwide. Either it isn't virulent enough or china successfully contained it.

Go back to bed citizens, you are safe.
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Lillian Geddlechit - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:51:00 EST jIt5CLGm No.182864 Reply
what the fuck is with people samefagging to fearmonger?
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Ebenezer Grandman - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:44:23 EST qjzM0SZW No.182868 Reply
>>182862
I'm not sure the point of this post but I'm guessing it's multiple layers of ignorance. FYI that's a Korean cult, not Christianity. It's a charismatic personality cult built around Lee Man-Hee with Christian flavoring. Think something like the Moonies, which btw is yet another ridiculous right wing Korean cult that publishes the Washington Times.
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Lillian Handlekun - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 09:26:55 EST 4iOFpMwy No.182879 Reply
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>>182868
If you know this much, you might read about this guy:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_au/article/gq9wxy/how-a-south-korean-cult-tried-and-failed-to-sue-an-australian-school-teacher-for-defamation

I know him personally though he probably doesn't remember it. He's a really super super cool and friendly guy and he may talk about JMSCult.whatever it was and how they came to his job one day to threaten him and his boss.
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Lillian Lightwater - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:26:45 EST lv6Tw3Xa No.182921 Reply
>>182131
18 cases and 2 deaths in France, preparations are beginning for containment
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Martha Pemmledeg - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:11:30 EST vddqZalQ No.182922 Reply
>>182653
Pfft, this shit is literally just a version of the flu. If you aren't old, a child, or weakened immune system, you may miss a week or two from work at worse. Shit is just the hype train pandemic of the hour. They'll probably crash the economy after Trump is reelected and blame it on coronavirus. Who gives a fuck. I could use a vacation anyways. I'll just get loaded on painkillers, benzo's and antibiotics like every other flu deal.
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Matilda Trotdock - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:03:30 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182924 Reply
>>182922
It's been shown many times this strain has a much factor of death of infection then normal flu. This also doesn't account mutation potential as it spreads.

Makes me wonder how many people were calling the Spanish flu "just hype"
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Esther Blongerludging - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 22:48:12 EST vddqZalQ No.182928 Reply
>>182923
>>182924
>18 y/o seniors who haven't lived through Zika, H1N1, Bird Flu, Ebola, SARS, etc.

Shit the aids epidemic wasn't even that bad. We have modernized healthcare and don't skip bathing and hygiene because being nude to wash yourself is sinful and an abhorrence of gawd. Every few years we have some "horrifying" pandemic that is going to make the black plague look like a summertime play on broadway. This is all media hype if you're living in the US. Don't be old and/or don't be immuno-compromised and you've got nothing to fear. Yeah, it has a higher death rate but so does everything else in shithole 3rd world countries. Who gives a fuck man? This is like baby's first pandemic for you fags. You know how many people get sick and die from common viruses and shit each year?

>Oh boo-hoo we had ~1% more die this year from some media hyped up virus than last year. Sucks to be affected by it but that is just life man. Shit isn't fair, be glad you live in the 1st world as an actual 1%er and not in fucking Somalia where something like this could wipe out your whole family and everything you ever owned. Grow the fuck up and have some critical thinking ffs.
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Archie Cerrypare - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 01:48:25 EST g+vb2gyp No.182934 Reply
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>>182928
>so does everything else in shithole 3rd world countries
Dude, this is china, they've been massively impacted despite committing more resources to fighting this thing than the US ever could.

Could you imagine the US building hospitals in 2 weeks, telling people they can go to a doctor for free, or shutting down cities to prevent transmission?
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Henry Duckbury - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 16:47:53 EST WL3e2fsO No.182946 Reply
>>182924

Oh look another person trying to compare a virus in the modern era to a virus that spread in 1918.

Hard truths: in 1918 most doctors still didn't believe in germ theory. There was no such thing as germicides, plastics, antibiotics, air conditioning and people still thought that essential oils, castor oil, and blood letting were effective and legitimate treatments for disease.

But yeah no keep on trying to tell me how corona is so much like the spanish flu.

All this corona hype is literal media fear baiting with a healthy pinch of sinophobia racism sprinkled on top.

Just like how the media baited everyone into thinking that ebola was gonna cause everyone in the world to instantly shit their guts right out of their ass if a black person coughed on them.
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Matilda Trotdock - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 17:12:02 EST pjSfU+g+ No.182948 Reply
>>182946
>Hard truths: in 1918 most doctors still didn't believe in germ theory. There was no such thing as germicides, plastics, antibiotics, air conditioning and people still thought that essential oils, castor oil, and blood letting were effective and legitimate treatments for disease.

Germ Theory was established in the 1880s. Most doctors believed it. Thats an incredibly stupid thing to say when entire cities were building (or rebuilding) sewer systems because of the work of Paster, and Snow.

And again, The death rate of this MUCH higher then the normal seasonal flu, and more people have died in china alone then all of SARS,.
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Barnaby Crepperworth - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 17:47:01 EST Dg4SuPXx No.182951 Reply
the reporting is starting to get so fucking blatant and it's pissing me off
>latest update virus spotted click here to find out the deets
>holy shit its in iran now and people are scared
>doctors might get sick too, and then what happens if we run out of doctors??
>iran is very scared
>you should be scared
>click every latest update you terrified bitch
>the stock market is crashing because people are scared click the latest update
>people are clearing out store shelves in panic be sure to get out there now and help with this new consumer boom
>medical mask shortages bitch bet you wish you bought them sooner holy fucking shit I can't believe we get to whip up consumer frenzies and media firestorms at the same fucking time I'm gonna cum
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Martin Bronningwudge - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:02:39 EST G1CnX6Ru No.182953 Reply
>>182946
To be fair, most people in China still believe in those things. Also to be fair, a ton of people in America still believe in those things. I'm not even just talking one group I mean across the whole political spectrum people believe in the most absolutely retarded shit here. Who wants to take bets on how long itll be before people start trying to pray the virus away or turning to crystal healing and drinking sewage contaminated raw water or smearing themselves in horse piss to cure themselves?

Not only that but again, america. It's not a meme. We have shit healthcare. People here are going to be actively avoiding quarantines, doctors, and ambulances because they literally can't afford it. Not only that, but the working poor here don't get sick days. If you're poor in America you're expected to show up to work sick. Fuck paid sick days or whatever fancy shit you euros get we literally don't even get to take time off when we're fucking sick which means all these people are going to catch coronavirus and get called into work where they're promptly going to spread it fucking everywhere and meanwhile they're going to be actively lying about being sick because they're more afraid of doctors and ambulances which btw ambulance rides are not even covered by insurance so good luck getting wagies to pay a month rent out of pocket which I guarantee they don't have which means even if they do bother showing up to hospital they're going to be doing stupid shit like taking the metro or bus to get there thus getting even more people sick. Meanwhile those are only the ones who don't actually think they can use such ridiculous bullshit like Law of Attfavtion and power of positive thinking and praying to Jesus to make the deadly disease go away. We're proper fucked I tell you.
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Martin Bronningwudge - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:09:50 EST G1CnX6Ru No.182954 Reply
>>182951
Meanwhile in reality we have a pandemic on our hands and trumptards are literally so fucking stupid, so petty, so psychotic, so craven, so disconnected from reality and so incompetent that they're literally treating a world health crisis as another outlet shilling for their orange boomers attention ratings
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/485184-pompeo-and-lieu-get-into-heated-exchange-over-coronavirus-do-you-believe
They're now literally telling us this is not a problem because their fat dear leader is too scared of his approval ratings dropping because muh growth muh markets after he slashes all the funding and fires people at CDC whose job specifically was preventing this sort of thing. We have an incompetent clown at the helm and his idiotic cultists are now burying their heads in the sand because apparently they got the idea in their heads this will make dear leader look bad or incompetent somehow not sure how this is different because he does that to himself literally every single day every time he opens his mouth. On the plus side, all these Republican voting boomer chuds are going to die and if enough of them die from this well never have to suffer another of their shitheads successfully winning an election again as the country gets emptied out of boomers.
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Lydia Gecklenet - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 00:46:54 EST vddqZalQ No.182960 Reply
I've seen it all now. Trump caused the end of the world through a plague because of 3rd world gooks on the other side of the globe eating rotting bats and carcasses.

This political shit is getting really out of hand now.
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Fucking Dartforth - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:05:55 EST cs3pi0AK No.182961 Reply
>>182954
No, it's true, the coronavirus is caused by unchecked immigration and the global hysteria over the pandemic is fake news spread by the democrats (an American political party) to ruin President Donald Trump.

If this were actually true, I'd nuke all of America and turn it into a reflective pane. It would be very easy to get world leaders behind exterminating America if this were true.
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Oliver Penningstadging - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:23:58 EST 2z2YdYQw No.182962 Reply
>>182960

lol it's the flu, not a plague, take a chill pill

80,000 people in america were killed last year by the regular flu and you don't see people peeing their pants and hoarding surgical masks over that
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Jack Ginderway - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 14:23:10 EST dZDaQqJv No.182966 Reply
>>182962
No, they're actually clamoring not to get themselves or their kids any kind of vaccination. Parallel to the corona virus outbreak there is a measles outbreak happening in the pacific islands brought by an American anti-vaxer cruise ship, but that got pushed off the front page a few weeks back. I'm sure that there is a higher rate of death to infection there but it doesn't matter because China bad.
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John Cavinghall - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:22:59 EST E2Yofruj No.182968 Reply
>>182966
Fuck off with that false equivalency fallacy shit.

Yeah anti-vaxxers are one of the most backwards and potentially harmful movements in the western world.
But the people responsible for the COVID-19 are way worse both in stupidity and harm.
It's the fucking TCM (traditional chinese medicine) belief that consuming certain wild animals parts gives you powers and shit. This practice is not only directly responsible for creating the initial conditions enabled the mutation of of the virus it's also responsible for a people in china proactively trying to avoid treatment.
Also TCM is the major driver to poaching of endangered animals around the globe and it's proactively spread to western new age hipsters by the th Belt and Road Initiative.

The west should crack down on TCM hard and straight out outlaw it.
Now go ahead and call me a sinophobe / authoritarian / whatever...
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Jack Ginderway - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:43:10 EST dZDaQqJv No.182969 Reply
>>182968
The rest of the world should crack down on letting obese lead poisoned evangelical zealots with 3 first names that double as last names into their countries so they don't get diseases the modern world nearly eradicated close to a century ago.
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John Cavinghall - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:54:22 EST E2Yofruj No.182970 Reply
>>182969
In other words, you'd have to compare the entire conspiracy culture in the US to "just" TCM.
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Priscilla Sandlebanks - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:36:17 EST dZDaQqJv No.182971 Reply
>>182970
Get rid of them both. I hope a bunch of han chinese have a face to face war with a bunch of generic white dudes named Daniel Kevin Daniel and James Paxton-Paxton and it's a 1-1 kill ratio.
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Graham Cunningshit - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:50:41 EST phBvcVkA No.182973 Reply
>>182972
Nah man you gotta Braxton Hicks and 86 and suck some dicks and Andy Sixx...
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Cedric Tillingwill - Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:41:21 EST XotMQ1i+ No.182979 Reply
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>attentionwhoring Hipstergirl from Germany went to China to post on Instagram
>went back to Cologne
>went to the big "Karneval"-party
>some idiot needed to put his wiener into a random pussy
>First Corona-cases in Germany


Why the fuck are people so stupid?!

Why are they actively contributing to a pandemic?!

Can't life save, because people feel the need to ignore all safety-measures!

Can't we just incarcerate all the idiots who think its still ok to create and partake in big crowded events for the safety of us all?!

Why are the airlines still flying to Whuan?!
Why are the borders open without any mandatory health-check?!

Goddamn stupid people ruining everything.

Can't even buy toilet-paper where I life, because panicked idiots bought literally EVERYTHING in our local supermarkets...
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Cedric Fancocke - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 14:22:24 EST OST7ik4g No.182990 Reply
>>182979
>getting mad at a guy for wanting to get laid at some big fest
>wanting to jail people for being social and going to events
You're obviously a complete shut-in, so I don't think you gotta worry about catching it.
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Eugene Buzzwill - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 14:25:55 EST 4eR24+NR No.182991 Reply
>>182979
It's good they started the panic early. This virus is almost certainly going to infect at least 10% of the population. I estimate there are over 1 million cases in the U.S. already.
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Esther Cranningfuck - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:49:51 EST E2Yofruj No.182992 Reply
>>182979
> Complain about panicking
> Spread a meme about some mentally ill person ranting on the subject
> yeah it's definitely not made up

You can find her channel with yandex image search. She seems to have some psychological issues and I'll bet it's pretty much all bullshit.
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Molly Mubblefield - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 19:34:00 EST n1GNC4dt No.182996 Reply
>>182991
>1 million cases
HAHAHAHAHAHA holy shit no wonder people dont post on this board
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Sophie Crezzleford - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 11:09:43 EST oyFBgXUq No.183003 Reply
>>182962
It's highly infectious. If only a third of people get it and the outbreak has spiralled that out of control then at least a million Americans will die, and that's only counting the 1% death rate which is total bullshit because it's actually 2% and even that is counting infected along with the dead. The actual death rate is number recovered/number who died, not total number of people infected. Check the recovered/dead numbers. It's a lot higher than 1 or 2% and that is with medical care as 9% are in critical condition in the ICU and what exactly do you think is going to happen if even 20 million Americans get infected? All the hospitals are going to be overloaded and you'll be on your own. It also does permanent lung damage in a number of people and wrecks your immune system and causes pulmonary fibrosis and pulmonary edema. That's bleeding in the lungs and scarring in the lungs as your blood vessels break down FYI so you'll be drowning in your own blood.

I find it interesting how tightly controlled the media is with showing us actual Wuhan virus patients in the ICU.
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Nathaniel Pollysure - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 16:10:03 EST Zj8aAQdv No.183004 Reply
>>183003
You think a THIRD of people will get infected? Holy shit, this is some kind of comic book virus.

Get the fuck out of here.
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Caroline Shittingway - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 21:16:33 EST n1GNC4dt No.183008 Reply
>>183004
It's hilarious how fucking stupid these virus doomers are
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Ebenezer Greenspear - Tue, 03 Mar 2020 23:41:33 EST h1/+mJcO No.183009 Reply
>>183004
>You think a THIRD of people will get infected? Holy shit, this is some kind of comic book virus.

Would it be fair to say that maybe a third of Americans have gotten the flu in their lifetime? yes/no

What if this does turn out that it cannot be contained and no effective anti-virus is developed.
That is say infects major water supplies. Is used as biological warfare that 'can' be easily
and evenly dispersed against target populations infecting substantial populations of the
world in a very short amount of time.

Lets say, https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Martial+Law is imposed.

Then what?

Surely Trump had declared national emergencies before. What will happen in the near future. Like hearing, "it's a crisis never seen before."

-President Trump on Friday declared the situation on the southern border of the United States to be a national emergency
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President Donald Trump declared the opioid epidemic a national public health emergency on Thursday
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President Donald Trump on Wednesday declared a national emergency over threats against American technology,
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I don't take anything off the table," Trump said,
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Fanny Hollyson - Wed, 04 Mar 2020 20:43:51 EST dZDaQqJv No.183020 Reply
>>183009
We don't know which strain of the flu people have gotten though, if 1/3 of the country got the exact same strain it would be comparable. This is a new strain of a known virus, not an entirely new virus. I don't know how severe or not it will be and armchair epidemiology doesn't get me off the same way it does for you lot so I have no reason to make estimates I don't have the education to back up but I do know bullshit when I see it and the justification you used to back up that estimate is some grade A bullshit.

Nice shapiroesqe opener with the misleading question and assumed answer though.
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Shit Chidgekerk - Wed, 04 Mar 2020 22:51:16 EST UmsAYKI7 No.183025 Reply
>>183004
>>183008
>doomers
>totally not a trumptard cultist faggot from the future
But to be fair he could very well be totally wrong and you guys very much correct. A third of the world getting infected could very well be way off the mark
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-outbreak-could-hit-3-billion-adults-harvard-expert-2020-3
https://theweek.com/speedreads/897799/harvard-scientist-predicts-coronavirus-infect-70-percent-humanity
We should all listen more to the wisdom of a couple random retards on the internet like you guys. Very accurate.
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Hedda Cleddleson - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 01:50:36 EST o39MjzKI No.183028 Reply
>>183020
>We don't know which strain of the flu people have gotten though, if 1/3 of the country got the exact same strain it would be comparable.

>This is a new strain of a known virus, not an entirely new virus.

So was influenza one would assume, it would still be the same. So in other words it has mutated then
from the original strain
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Ernest Hiddleforth - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 13:16:51 EST 0NLJaFCt No.183048 Reply
>>183009
>the flu
There is no one thing that's the flu. The flu is many many many many different viruses. You're a doomer, fuck off.
>>183028
>one would assume
Yes, one would assume, and one might even have to assume, if one didn't have things like books and schools and the internet that one could use and know for sure that there's no such thing as "the" flu, only "a" flu.
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Betsy Duckfoot - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 13:23:50 EST E2Yofruj No.183049 Reply
Vox Video about the reasons for the virus.
https://youtu.be/TPpoJGYlW54

It's a more somber explanation of what I eluded to above: It's fucking the TCM myth that eating certain wild animal parts gives you powers.
What kind of bugs me is China apparently still isn't going after TCM idiots because alot of them are party officials.
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Ernest Hiddleforth - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 13:24:51 EST 0NLJaFCt No.183050 Reply
>>183049
>More ridiculous racist fear-spreading from another dumb fuck CIA contractor.
Get a real job and stop sucking up my tax money.
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Lydia Battingfark - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 17:17:28 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183052 Reply
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Over a hundred infected here in Norway, because of tourists returning from the world campionship in skiing happening a few weeks ago in Northern Italy. We're already closing major events where people gather. We're also testing so much they have no capacity to test people with symptoms who have no relation to foreign outbreaks. Wish us luck guys.
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Martin Honeycocke - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 17:36:28 EST 0Spagcod No.183053 Reply
>>183048
>>one would assume

>There is no one thing that's the flu. The flu is many many many many different viruses.

There are many strains of the flu. Influenza if you will. The CDC tries to predict which strain would be more prevalent and develop vaccines to the predicted strains.

I got a flu shot recently. This may be good because this year had been a bit above normal for those contracting the influenza (flu) virus.

If one had the flu vaccine recently but suddenly showed pronounced flu-like-symptoms, it would be possible to raise the question, is this actually influenza?
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-guide/flu-tests-detect-specific-viruses

If not actually influenza

Then can be tested for the so-called coronavirus. If positive for this it can help to be used to trace who the persons has been in contact with, traveling, events, gatherings. As well, geographical areas where other cases have emerged. This is not a new practice. It is not evil government practice' to try to contain transmittable diseases, to try to contain the spread of disease.

During the Ebola crisis, many buried their deceased in secret to avoid being ostracized, but in that they too were in contact with the virus. To compound many families were fearful, distrustful of US and other government aid workers
which made tracking tends, outbreaks even more difficult. Propaganda spread. There was political unrest which in
turn targeted humanitarian aid workers, from the general population, fearful of retaliation, as well as military para-military targeting the aid workers and civilian population.

Many humanitarian workers do die. Are even murdered. This is where people are much larger than many of us who risk life to offer some safety to people like us.
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Phineas Bladdlewill - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 18:13:59 EST acqxi6pD No.183054 Reply
>>183053
Too bad humanitarians get shit on and guys who played too much COD and shoot missles with drones in the middle east get praised and applauded. Life is a sham.
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Martin Honeycocke - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 18:15:48 EST 0Spagcod No.183055 Reply
>>183048
>if one didn't have things like books and schools and the internet that one
>could use and know for sure that there's no such thing as "the" flu, only "a" flu.
>Well,

well guess what boy, gone are the days of drinking too much at a party and simply
calling in sick, (while hungover) and saying I have 'a flu.' Gone are the days of catching
the game when one would be at work. Ditching school, classes, people will notice this.

Not only that, if one did take sick days off, returning back to work, people will be basically avoided. This is not 'fake news' causing disruption, this is reality. This is not an
anti-Trump propaganda malfunction, this is reality. Worsened by far, Trump as president
of the US. Who is an intense germophobe his-self.
_______________________________________________
“So we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that just get better, by, you know, sitting around and even going to work – some of ’em go to work – but they get better,”
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"I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work," Trump tweeted, calling it "disinformation put out by the Democrats."
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/07/evangelical-flu-shot-pray-donald-trump-gloria-copeland
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Frederick Mennerhall - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 09:37:02 EST 1ipzG7Kw No.183066 Reply
Reminder that this isn't "the flu." SARS-COv2 which is the actual name of the virus WHO only calls it Covid as a PR move because they decided calling it by it's real name would "spread too much fear" has nothing to do with influenza. It's a relative of the common cold. They keep spreading this totally misinformed lie because people would actually stop to realize isn't it a bit weird and scary that the cold is killing people.
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Molly Gillypack - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 16:43:17 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183071 Reply
>>183066
>cold is killing people.

The cold kills people all the time. What are you implying? That stupid conspiracy that this is a Chinese bio-weapon that got out of control?

Also, "The cold" is a generic term that doesn't really have medical relevance.
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Martin Blepperfutch - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 17:24:02 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183072 Reply
>>183071

Yes, SARS coronavirus 2 is in family with the human corona-viruses that causes 10-15% of colds people get. Most colds are caused by rhinovirus.

The dude isn't implying any conspiracy bullshit here, but rather pointing out that this is SARS 2 Boogaloo. It's a virus which the human body has no innate immunity towards and can attack most organs, in some cases even the brain apparently causing encephalitis, or more regularly pneumania or kidney failure.

It's not a cold, it's not a flu. It can fuck you up properly if you are unlucky or old. Unlike regular cold which only fucks up the very very weakest of people like AIDS-sufferers and immunosupressed people.
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Cornelius Fuckingfoot - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 17:26:02 EST ZbKQHcFk No.183073 Reply
>>183072
>SARS 2 Boogaloo.
You mean a complete nonevent? I totally agree.
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Martin Blepperfutch - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 17:29:08 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183074 Reply
>>183073

Dude we're in a middle of a pandemic here if you didn't catch the fucking memo.
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Martin Blepperfutch - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 18:17:58 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183078 Reply
>>183073

Italy just shut down their own country to stop the spread.

Nonevent much? Idiot.
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Molly Gillypack - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 18:22:13 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183079 Reply
>>183078
I'm sure they'd say Spanish Flu was just media hype 100 years ago.
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George Pitthood - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 19:23:24 EST vddqZalQ No.183080 Reply
Well a massive pandemic or not, do we really give a shit if people die off? I mean, we're about due for a plague or mass extermination or something right? Maybe I'm just a heartless fuck but damn, I could do with less human beings on this planet. And if I'm one of them well then good for me, the ride's fuckin over boys lol.

>Not worried in the slightest.
>Stop reading circlejerk since it is non-stop shills and bots.
>Smoke more.
>Chill out.
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Eliza Sozzlekit - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 22:34:05 EST 7epbBpoD No.183083 Reply
>>183080
>classism packaged as misanthropic pseudonihilism and apathetic environmentalism is totally cool
No what we actually need to do is kill off the 1%. If we did that then suddenly we'd have enough resources to take care of literally all the people on earth. Do you have any idea how much fucking fresh water one of these assholes golf courses consumes in a single day? That faggot Trump is only even so butthurt at everyone from California to the EPA because this fat faggot fucking boomer child molester set up a golf course in LA and he decided to bitch about his water bills. Imagine having water rations ina drought stricken area and this pants shitting pedophile is driving around his scooter wasting that much clean water on entertaining other corrupt oligarchs he's hatching criminally corrupt deals with. We should repossess all their stolen assets and then execute them as traitors to the people.
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Matilda Semmerfield - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 22:45:00 EST tlilhxRg No.183085 Reply
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>>183083
>No what we actually need to do is kill off the 1%.
Yes!
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Hedda Donderwutch - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 23:09:15 EST acqxi6pD No.183086 Reply
I really fucking hate cornavirus posters
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Barnaby Battingville - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 04:13:59 EST dZDaQqJv No.183090 Reply
>>183086
Perhaps it is they who have been the Chinabots all along.
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George Pitthood - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 10:38:09 EST vddqZalQ No.183091 Reply
>>183083
Bout to give you some reality man.

>Humanity has always been structured in a pyramid socially.
>The rich people waste money on shit and organize big business which keeps the serfs employed.
>That fancy gold course has jobs for catering, landscaping, management, maintenance, and all the shit they have to buy which also creates jobs.
>Extreme taxes on the rich or eating the rich or whatever just causes them to run out of your country and take their money and infrastructure elsewhere. Case in point: Venezuela. Everyone now has no jobs or money or anything but rioting and looting.
>The serfs literally cannot function with wealth. There is a class warfare going on no doubt. But you're being played by capitalism. You can work less than 15-20 years in a standard job and retire if you are disciplined with money, even less if you have a partner who is also willing to live very cheap. In the past ten years I've spent less on vehicles than most people spend in 6 months of car payments.

But let's talk about murdering the people who actually fund our society and letting the absolute savages of society be put on the same level as them. Communism for all! Oh wait, communism had a pyramid power structure as well. Oh well, so much for utopia. Dumbass.
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Emma Menningford - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 12:52:02 EST pyG5d99p No.183092 Reply
>>183091
>the people who fund our society are the kings with the riches
>not the people who pay taxes
You think rich people shit dollar bills or something? You don't really get the world, how it works.
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Cyril Dablinghall - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 17:02:24 EST g+vb2gyp No.183093 Reply
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>>183083
>No what we actually need to do is kill off the 1%.
The social relations are the problem, if you kill off the 1% without changing the system, they'll be replaced by people who will inherit the same class interests, and the contradictions will remain.
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Ian Nundlenadge - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 20:12:49 EST vddqZalQ No.183097 Reply
>>183092
You dumb fuck, your taxes don't fund anything more than government entities. It doesn't fund companies like coca cola or walmart who employ the biggest swathes of the population. Get the fuck out and learn some basic macro economics. The rich people may shit on the poor, but at the same time they need droves of worker ants to make them profit so they can buy more expensive shit that also needs droves of workers to create. Everything from high paying STEM jobs, white collar jobs, to the drop outs and pot heads (You and the rest of this chan) who put the shit together and ship it everywhere.

And yes, for practical purposes, the economy relies on rich investors and business leaders to essentially shit money and capital into the system. The modern capitalist economy is based off people buying shit they need or think they need. The old saying of, it is easier to take a dollar off a million people than a million dollars off one person sums up the entire thing so beyond eloquently it isn't even funny. There are 1/100 people spending a million dollars on a car. But 99/100 spending 30,000 on a car. And making a car and starting from nothing and getting it to the consumer employs hundreds of thousands of people all over the place. Someone has to have the capital to invest and risk in such an enterprise and to make it happen where the consumer can spend their money on it and have a finished and decent product.

Your average joe blow isn't smart enough or skilled enough nor disciplined enough for such a venture as making a global car company and as well, he is far, far, far too poor. And giving him money and removing rich people from society isn't going to elevate joe blow, it is just going to cause Mr. Money Bags to fuck off and take his employment opportunities with him. And I'm not groveling at the wonderful capitalist system we have. It clearly has problems and I think corporate welfare and government handholding of them needs to be curtailed. It is too much in favor of the free market at the moment. But extreme taxing of "obscene" amounts of money or even a wealth tax is going to cause the rich people; who in reality, make our society work, to drive them elsewhere and leave this country without jobs. Case in point: Venezuela.

>I eagerly await your dim witted response.
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Nigel Blovingwater - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 20:29:39 EST 4lbL7WH/ No.183099 Reply
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>>183097
Wow that's fascinating. All this time I thought jobs are created by demand for goods and services that people want, need, or desire. Now you're telling me it's benevolent rich people? This will turn the whole field of economics on its head.
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Sidney Chommerlock - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 20:50:14 EST C2HQEM47 No.183102 Reply
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>>183097
>Your average joe blow isn't smart enough or skilled enough nor disciplined enough for such a venture as gambling with their parents' money
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Charles Wirrybine - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 21:06:31 EST dZDaQqJv No.183106 Reply
>>183097
>It doesn't fund companies like coca cola or walmart who employ the biggest swathes of the population.

You mean the companies that pay so little that their employees need to use tax funded food stamps, WIC and rent assistance?
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 01:27:39 EST cPuIO5fh No.183111 Reply
>>183097
>The modern capitalist economy is based off people buying shit they need or think they need. [...] There are 1/100 people spending a million dollars on a car. But 99/100 spending 30,000 on a car.
>the rich people; who in reality, make our society work,

pick one
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Ebenezer Greenson - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 22:51:42 EST vddqZalQ No.183119 Reply
Wow, I really kicked the, "I've never understood economics but by god commies good, capitalist scum bad." hornet's nest.

This board should be deleted if the only responses to posts that are longer than tweets amount to shitty meme pictures and logical fallacies. But hey, I guess sitting in your parent's spare bedroom or basement fapping to hentai and talking politics with strangers while you smoke your dope is all you need to understand everything about everything going on in the US.

>Lol kids amirite?
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James Shittingway - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 03:21:02 EST Y9daNC61 No.183123 Reply
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>>183119
>complains about fallacies
>immediately blurts out a stream of fallacies and strawmanning
This is why no one takes you seriously, rightard. There's a reason rightard intellectuals basically don't even exist and the best you got is some crying bitch man therapist and pill addict. We have textwall long posts here all the damn time. Do you seriously think you're even worth the bother to write one?
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Jarvis Clogglemure - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 03:35:25 EST dZDaQqJv No.183124 Reply
>>183119
your multi paragraph tirade being ill informed enough to be dismissed with a single sentence reflects more on your own post quality than the response.

Try fucking yourself next time instead of posting and the quality may improve.
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Sophie Fanbanks - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 14:30:48 EST eW7lNgCN No.183129 Reply
>>183119

You're going to be lined up along the wall with oligarchs.
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Angus Nunkinstone - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 01:41:20 EST vddqZalQ No.183136 Reply
>>183129
Yeah, a bunch of limp wristed latte sipping femboys are going to take their nogunz and overthrow the government and corporate establishment when they can't even get out for 30 minutes and support Bernie over a senile old man. And then get this, they're going to line me up against the wall and execute me when I was one of the actual few who went out, lost wages, and voted for Bernie.

Yeah, sure bud, come fucking try it. Maybe one day you'll get a life outside of mom's basement and see the world for what it really is. I can tell you one thing though, you'll never get to live out your commie fantasies of murdering political dissidents and capitalists you authoritarian fuck.
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Oliver Sittingfidge - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 01:51:15 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183137 Reply
>>183136
Oh shit, is Fash-cop back? Figured out a way around a ban eh?
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Samuel Devingstetch - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:58:13 EST 4eR24+NR No.183139 Reply
>>183136
Lol this fag over here. Do what I did and find some desperate chump willing to pay you to vote for bernie.
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Samuel Devingstetch - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 04:14:21 EST 4eR24+NR No.183143 Reply
>>183142
My masculine clitty appeals to straight cis women.
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Fuck Blingershaw - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 15:18:45 EST acqxi6pD No.183158 Reply
WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO SHITTY THREAD ALERT WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO
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Reuben Sicklewill - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:00:30 EST dZDaQqJv No.183159 Reply
>>183143
What about NCIS straight women, you know, ladies that can only have heteronormative sex while watching CBS crime procedurals based around the military. It's like a JAG-off but they involve another person who doesn't have to be NCIS sexual themselves.
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Caroline Wuckleford - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:08:02 EST jIt5CLGm No.183162 Reply
>>183119
feels gross posting this but w/e you people do this way more than you accuse us of doing it
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Caroline Wuckleford - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:08:50 EST jIt5CLGm No.183163 Reply
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>>183162
woops my computer really didn't want to post this i gotta give it a bath now
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Caroline Hicklehood - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 21:14:27 EST GYS5Woy8 No.183166 Reply
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>Iranian Islamic fundies lick religious shrines to show that they are good little servants of Allah
>Italian leftists hug and kiss foreigners from countries hit by ultra-contagious plagues to show that they are good little servants of the globalist corporations that flood their country with cheap labor from abroad

Goes to show that globo-homo Leftism is at least as irrational and dangerous as religion, but more gay and cringe.
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Henry Chedgetet - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 21:40:54 EST dMQaYxK1 No.183171 Reply
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I'm in China right now, not one of the heavily affected areas, as far as I know we had about 10 days with no new cases in the city but a few days ago there was one more confirmed.

Things are pretty much normal here other than that the streets are mostly empty and the majority of the shops are closed. You can still buy groceries and food and stuff but real estate agents and clothes shops and things like that are all closed.

I'm on a pretty "loose" quarantine, I the virus got out of hand while I was in Vietnam, when they cancelled all the flights back, so I decided to lay low in Laos for 1 month before trying to head back. That was fun but I had under packed for a 2 week long holiday and I also didn't have my bank card, so I really had to come back at some point.

Entering China wasn't difficult, I had to sign the same form 4 times basically saying I hadn't been to or been around anyone from Wuhan in the past 2 weeks, I also needed to fill out a digital copy of a very similar form on WeChat before my ticket got issued.

I arrived in China about 10 days ago, first of all they put me in a hotel (I'm an English teacher in a School and the guy who owns the School also owns the hotel) but they moved me out of there onto my campus accommodation after 2 days. I'm free to leave whenever I want but every time I go outside they take my temperature with a little ray gun that they point at your head or your wrist. Then I need to write down my reason for leaving, phone number, passport number, gender, and if I've got any symptoms. This check is done by the regular security guards who would be at the gates of the school anyway, rather than a special team of police or anything. China understandably has a surplus of labour so EVERYWHERE has security guards, these people are now repurposed as temperature checkers. I also had a friend over the other day which I thought might have been a problem, but no they just got her to sign the paper and she was allowed into the campus no problem (after checking her temp of course).

The schools kitchens are still open so I'm getting 3 meals a day, I'm also still being paid my full wage even though I'm not doing any work, but for once a Chinese company is sticking to its contract so I feel very lucky. Everyone Is wearing masks 100% of the time they are outside and in the lunch hall everyone sits a metre apart from each other, or they just take their food back to the apartment like me.

I'm staying in by myself eating Xanax and playing Octopath traveller, as well as drinking WAY too much alcohol. Noticeably I think more and more of my Chinese friends are becoming depressed by having to stay inside all day, it's difficult to speak to people when all they have to tell you is that they are bored and arguing with their parents all the time.

I've made similar posts like this in the /b/ thread on the subjects but if anyone wants to ask any questions I'd be happy to answer them.

The picture is of a taxi 'safety net' that they've got in a lot of the cars now.
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Fucking Clayford - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 21:42:46 EST E2Yofruj No.183172 Reply
>>183166
That's a CCP soft power propaganda stunt and has nothing to do with leftism.
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Nell Turveyville - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:10:05 EST wJycSsj4 No.183174 Reply
>>183171
How long is it taking people to recover? Also, any truth to it hitting malay and black people harder than others? Sorry if those are stupid questions but those are concerning to me at the moment.
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George Bunspear - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 00:02:07 EST 4eR24+NR No.183175 Reply
>>183174
Approximately 2 weeks. And no, no racial difference has been confirmed. It's unclear whether such demographic discrepancies are due to race/sex or the environment. More data is needed before such conclusions can be confirmed.
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Fanny Turveygold - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:04:17 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183194 Reply
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https://theweek.com/speedreads/901770/entire-country-norway-shutting-down

Norway shuts down. Schools, universities, most of the state, non-critical businesses are either sending people on home office or paid (or not paid) leave. All foreigners beyond the Nordics coming in are required to stay in quarantine for 14 days. Cruise ships are being turned away from ports. All this for 14 days, but that may be extended.

And yes, it's gonna happen in your country too.
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Ernest Ponningford - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:57:58 EST floliawg No.183200 Reply
>>183188
>donates
Fuck off China shill, Italy has to pay for the equipment. The big deal here is that China is making an exception to its ban on the export of protective medical gear that they instituted when this sgitshow got started.
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Charlotte Blebberpune - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 17:55:42 EST a/2rQKBV No.183204 Reply
>>183198
Why did we make the drones bomb brown people instead of being capable of seamless delivery during mass quarantine. This is why America sucks
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Fanny Turveygold - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:18:25 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183205 Reply
>>183198

Ah yes, so annoying that people are gonne fucking die all over the place. Including someone you know. Hopefully not ourselves.

This is the 100 year pandemic we've been waiting for. And the 10 year recession.
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Frederick Bashbock - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:13:02 EST vddqZalQ No.183208 Reply
I'm hearing and seeing some rumors of CDC/Military papers and shit about a US federal quarantine for 4 weeks and what sounds like a semi-marshal law type deal. I really, really doubt it will happen but Trump is getting blamed and the stock market is going down the tubes so it might happen but I doubt a US complete shutdown is going to happen. Still think this is just a fuckload of panic and media hype. Either way, I've always kept a 6 month stock of water, canned food, and shit paper so who gives a fuck honestly. Unlike a lot of neoliberal interwebbs dwellers I also have tiny chunks of metal I can throw real fast at would-be invaders. I seriously hope it doesn't come to that over some media click baiting shit but ya never know.

The pictures of the documents could be faked easily but hey, it is Trump after all. And he knows if the stock market and economy take a shit then he won't get reelected. I've been saying for a few years 2019-2020 is going to be a recession and hey, would ya looky there, the DOW Jones has went from 29,500 to 21,500 in less than a month. Nearly 30% loss. That is fucking dramatic as fuck. We lost 10% today lol. Whatever, I've got money in the bank, no major bills, and no debt. Tried to warn folks to scrimp and save when the times were good and everything was going gangbusters.

>Nope, I'm a dumb fuckin faggot who drives an old beater, lives in a tiny trailer (Ahem that is paid for) and doesn't go out and waste money. Can't wait to make them same people eat crow when they're selling their shit for 2% of its value. Dumb cunts. Wealth is made from saving income. Wealth isn't working at the McDonald's and driving a Mercedes and wearing Tim's and a Gucci bag.
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Lillian Duckfield - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:19:35 EST tlilhxRg No.183209 Reply
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>>183208
> Still think this is just a fuckload of panic and media hype
>But i'm also going full on schizophrenic survivalist

Bruh.
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Jenny Muttingput - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 20:34:12 EST 0FtqcI/I No.183211 Reply
>>183208
Minor exception to the rule: hyperinflation and just general the economy shitting the bed hard enough to devalue your currency. Your dollarydoos don't amount to fucking shit and while you are overall right it's quite rich to hear some idiot actually saying how fiat currency is "real wealth." No you stupid faggot having useful and nice things is real wealth, with gold and precious gems and metals following it by being virtual wealth, and everything after it being monopoly money basically including to various extents stocks, bonds, fiat currency, and crypto meme coins.

>>183205
Yeah but I actually take issue with that, unless you want to try to call it the 500 years pandemic being the big one. Frankly this is just another pandemic and thankfully a rather mild one at that, but just not mild enough to get people to take it seriously for once and not act like a true fuckoff pandemic is just some kind of Hollywood bullshit that can't ever happen here. What I'm talking about is if some kind of shit as fatal as like the Nipah virus or even just cozier friendlier SARS or decidedly less friendly MERS were to ever actually spread with the infectiousness and resiliency of this virus. Which makes it a good thing in disguise as crisis and horror because can you even imagine if the big one ever actually finally hit us with the current state of things? Could you even imagine our present state of affairs if a 70% fatality rate bug or even a 15% fatality rate bug were floating around out there with all the other same properties of SARSCOV? We'd be completely fucked. And I don't just mean your normal godfearing proper fucked I mean an actual honest to God collapse of human civilization for decades if it really started to get out of hand.

Well unless this thing mutates of course. Then we will actually be proper fucked.
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Frederick Bashbock - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 21:49:16 EST vddqZalQ No.183214 Reply
>>183211
>Calls me a stupid faggot for holding onto US Dollars, the world reserve currency.
>Says I should have money in gold and silver.

LOL. I know better than to get into a debate about money with 420chan users since you people are the dumbest fucks when it comes to money but come on dude. If the US dollar becomes worthless overnight, the world is literally on fucking fire and the end days are here. Gold won't be worth shit either in that situation. The only thing that will matter is if you have a bunker loaded with food and water or a single bullet to blow your brains out with. This isn't the end times. In 2-3 years, we'll have stabilized yet again. Get a grip, fuckin baby's first economy crash ffs.
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Jarvis Greencocke - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 22:00:51 EST 5F3lmD0J No.183216 Reply
>>183214
Yuan is a reserve currency now, and I'm pretty sure the world banking system will be switching over to that one in the next century
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Jarvis Fodgesutch - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 23:21:27 EST E2Yofruj No.183220 Reply
>>183211
>Could you even imagine our present state of affairs if a 70% fatality rate bug or even a 15% fatality rate bug were floating around out there with all the other same properties of SARSCOV? We'd be completely fucked. And I don't just mean your normal godfearing proper fucked I mean an actual honest to God collapse of human civilization for decades if it really started to get out of hand.

Don't shit yourself.
Roughly speaking viruses can't be arbitrarily deadly and arbitrarily infections at the same time. Viruses have been around longer than multi-celluar life and they are in a way the messaging of evolution.

OT:
Also civilization collapse isn't something that happens in the way that pop-culture depicts it. Historical ones were always displaced by other civilizations (IE warfare and resource depletion) and have never been based on technology that is developed using the scientific method.
The only thing that could destroy civilization is an out-of-context problem.
(Cosmic events can potentially do it but we are good enough at estimating the risk to a point where it's known to be negligible, an AI uprising could wipe out "humanity" but would preserve civilization)
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Clara Pillerfuck - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 01:29:55 EST BZO3zYpJ No.183221 Reply
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Both Trump and Bolsonaro might have COVID
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Nell Shittingwill - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:40:45 EST Vr0E+N13 No.183225 Reply
>>183211
>70% fatality bug
It's another doomer fantasy virus, folks.
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Emma Blatherford - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:58:22 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183247 Reply
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>>183211

You're just like so many others, grown so fucking cozy in your safe little first world bubble you call your life. But SARS 2 will burst it buddy.

What do you think will happen in areas where there is no proper health system, which is hands down most of the world?
From the numbers 10-20% of the infected will die there.

3-5% in developed countries with swamped hospitals of developed countries. Which this disease will cause without proper social distancing measures.

Countries has to shut down completely to reduce the spread enough to avoid that fate.

Just fuck off. You have no idea how severe this is for the world. Millions will fucking die.
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Frederick Bashbock - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:13:59 EST vddqZalQ No.183250 Reply
>>183247
>Millions will fucking die.

Yeah, and? We got 7 billion of those fuckers as it is. Who gives a shit? I mean really, who the hell gives a fuck? Life used to be known to have death as a common aspect of it. Perhaps we value human life too much now that we've been insulated from the reality of death and decay for so long. I mean, old folks don't fall over dead in their house, and get found stinking by the family in a black leathery goo pile. We shove them into nursing homes so we don't have to see their body fail, then we shove them into hospice care where they get doped up to "ease" them into death and then they're gutted and stuffed and dropped in the ground as fresh as they were the day they keeled over.

Maybe I've just been around rotting animals and shit too much and seen stillbirths and CWD and all the wonderful niceties of existence and am numb to it. But damn, grow the fuck up. People live and people die, and death isn't pretty. And it sure as fuck doesn't smell good. Who gives a fuck?
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Archie Greenbury - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 19:59:13 EST 7eQDD7rk No.183252 Reply
>>183214
I don't think you quite understand the damage Trump has done to the economy on top of China, Russia Iran dumping the petrodollar. The petrodollar is LITERALLY what keeps this country afloat in its sea of debt. That is the real reason they murdered Gaddafi.

Our situation is far more tenuous than you seem to realize even now.
But you're going to find out soon enough.
>holding onto currency
>not understanding as basic economics as inflation
Okay dude you do you
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Sidney Nommlesuck - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:00:49 EST 7eQDD7rk No.183253 Reply
>>183247
That isn't even the problem anymore. This thing is now endemic. It has probably already established itself in much of the world enough now that cold and flu season is also now going to be SARS-lite season.
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Sidney Nommlesuck - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:05:40 EST 7eQDD7rk No.183254 Reply
>>183225
>same shitheel who'd call me a "doomer" for warning them about the oncoming pandemic and financial crash
>and using the future memes on top of it
>while managing to be this completely ignorant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipah_virus_infection
Yeah okay I get it not everybody is an epidemiologist but you've got no credibility at all dude.
>not understanding diseases have up to 100% fatality rates
What is rabies. Hemmhoragic fevers typically run from 40-70% fatality rates. Untreated pneumonic plague had at least a 90% fatality rate.

I also just heard satellite images caught Iran digging mass graves is this true?
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Shitting Sillerman - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:27:10 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183256 Reply
>>183254
In fairness, infections with 70%+ fatality rates don't really spread well, because they kill so quickly, and are also crippling. Thankfully a virus that sits dormant for a long time to allow a long spread then quickly kills at a high rate is a fiction (thus far). As the one you posted was animal to human transmission.
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Martin Cullerhall - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 03:49:26 EST 9OGzBMgh No.183262 Reply
>>183254
Fuck off doomer dumb ass, a virus isn't going to kill 70% of people when most don't ever have any symptoms...ever.
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Beatrice Worthingwell - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 11:02:19 EST vddqZalQ No.183264 Reply
>>183256
Kinda almost like, humanity has evolved a functioning immune system that fairs pretty well for the typical primitive human lifespan which is 40-50 years despite government incompetence. Remember, modern healthcare and germ theory haven't existed but for a couple hundred years at the very most liberal of estimations. Yet, the population still keeps climbing even with yellow men eating bats like Ozzy.
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Shitting Sillerman - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 19:09:28 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183274 Reply
>>183264
Yep, if slathering shit into open wounds as a "cure" for Black death didn't wipe out Europe in the middle ages, no illness will end civilization.
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Albert Mammlefudge - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 19:44:57 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183275 Reply
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>>183250

Honestly dude you sound like a complete psychopath.

If you don't care about the masses of 50+ that will fucking die, and all the unlucky 30+ that will follow them to the shadow realm, let me ask you this:

What the fuck are you gonna do if you catch some bullshit that makes you need care, like meningitis, or break your arm, get lyme, or lockjaw, or cancer, or a truly bad case of the flu?

Guess what, you're fucked because the entire system is now trying to beat corona. There's no doctors anymore that can take a look at you, and if they are there they will likely infect you with corona, which is not something you want as comorbidities will kill someone suffering from corona.

Wake the fuck up dude.
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Nigel Gongersidging - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:34:43 EST OjupdLjZ No.183276 Reply
>>183275
Do you actually honestly care the same about every single death that happens? Of course not. So you recognize there's a line. People put it in different places.
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Angus Brarrymat - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:52:31 EST tgGwNuSi No.183277 Reply
>>183274
Didn't black death effectively crash civilization for a generation? Crashing a civilization doesn't mean "the end of all human life." What it means is the total collapse of society and all the former supstructures along with possibly shortages on certain high value technical skills and knowledge. When Rome finally fell it practically shut off the lights on civilization throughout many areas for a bit, with basically a bunch of Christian monks being among the last preservers of scattered and superstitious knowledge. I mean ffs we still don't even know how to make Greek fire (though eventually found an admittedly better replacement--almost two thousand years later). Civilization itself as a concept is never going to end as long as there's at least two people fucking.
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Martha Pivingstock - Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:09:51 EST w7c6q3ko No.183278 Reply
>>183277
>Didn't black death effectively crash civilization for a generation?
No, holy fuck.
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Hamilton Mebblegold - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 02:37:05 EST E2Yofruj No.183280 Reply
>>183277
Civilization is already post-biological in a sense.
This means the providing the essentials (food, water, shelter) is almost completely automated already. So even in the worst hypothetical scenario (which covid-19 is not) society would not collapse.
Regarding high value skills: Those no longer exist. The most necessary tasks to keep civilization operational can be done by almost everybody if there's a desperate need for it. (Operating machinery essentially)
At last the technology to automate everything else has already been invented just not deployed because it's not socially acceptable yet.

After this crisis is over wide spread teleworking will have become socially acceptable for instance. There are a few other of these changes "in the pipeline" that would become acceptable in a worse disaster. One would be using Artificial Neural Networks for professional correspondence, and programming.
I suspect that would be the case if there's a bad economic crash on the level of the great depression.
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Matilda Bibblekurk - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 06:33:38 EST NPtSOLcE No.183285 Reply
>>183280
Why are you speaking in the hypothetical? The crisis is pretty well-described at this point. Is it because that's the only place you can go now to get fear?
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Hamilton Mebblegold - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 09:23:25 EST E2Yofruj No.183289 Reply
>>183285
To point out that our reliance on technology makes society more resilient not less resilient like doomer idiots claim.
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Cedric Murdfield - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 10:06:20 EST vddqZalQ No.183290 Reply
>>183275
Honestly fam, not to be cliche but I don't have a fear of death. If shit gets that bad where I'm turned down at the hospital for some serious illness I have, I'll just go to the walmart, buy a box of shotgun shells and then come back 10 minutes later and ask to "inspect" a shotgun they have for sale and just off myself. I don't really give a shit about my life and reality dude. I've gotten old enough where doing drugs all day and being irresponsible just leads to prison time and I have to "adult" all the time and live sober 24/7. Life fucking sucks. Who gives a shit if it ends? I'd be even less inclined to exist if I was in chronic pain and couldn't get no healing going on.

>Do you really think I give a fuck about some gooks eating peacock piss sandwiches to become superman getting wiped off the map for being superstitious fucking idiots? Good riddance I say. Hell, life always resolves itself with death. The universe will die and along with it the gods and all history. Nothing you, me, or xing pei "Bat Balls Connoisseur" yosuke does will ever matter. It will all be erased. I welcome the void, maybe then I could get some god damn rest and freedom from being busy as fuck 24/7. If that makes me some scary psychopath then so be it. idgaf anymore.
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Eugene Soggletun - Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:09:38 EST qslDy3vO No.183291 Reply
>>183290
You will do no such thing. Who pays you to say shit like this?
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Walter Shittingwell - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 05:56:23 EST 5yhACa6y No.183297 Reply
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People queuing for the coffeeshops for weed yesterday in the Netherlands.
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Fuck Suddlecheck - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 11:21:41 EST E2Yofruj No.183299 Reply
>>183296
This makes me wanna go full communism srlsy.

>Deploy the troops to the datacenter where they store their research, nationalize the company and arrest the CEO for treason.
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Sophie Benderchare - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 17:20:22 EST amwQ/Vzi No.183308 Reply
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>>183009
>You think a THIRD of people will get infected? Holy shit, this is some kind of comic book virus.
Would it be fair to say that maybe a third of Americans have gotten the flu in their lifetime? yes/no

What if this does turn out that it cannot be contained and no effective anti-virus is developed.
That is say infects major water supplies. Is used as biological warfare that 'can' be easily
and evenly dispersed against target populations infecting substantial populations of the
world in a very short amount of time.

Lets say, https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Martial+Law is imposed.
Then what?

Surely Trump had declared national emergencies before. What will happen in the near future. Like hearing, "it's a crisis never seen before."

-President Trump on Friday declared the situation on the southern border of the United States to be a national emergency
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President Donald Trump declared the opioid epidemic a national public health emergency on Thursday
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President Donald Trump on Wednesday declared a national emergency over threats against American technology,
____
I don't take anything off the table," Trump said,
++++++++++++++++++

>Surely Trump had declared national emergencies before. What will happen in the near future.
>Like hearing, "it's a crisis never seen before."

Meanwhile back at the ranch. keep this in mind. "This is a very contagious — this is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible,"

Yea, sure.
Our grocery stores were well stocked a mere week ago. But no shoppers, nobody really out on a Saturday night. When the store would be full of shoppers. But in a few days stores, basically two days, are getting picked down to almost nothing. No milk. This in basically two three days.
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Fuck Siffinggold - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 17:53:37 EST dZDaQqJv No.183311 Reply
>>183310
Weren't pics that had more food on the shelves than this or justification for attempting a coup in Venezuela?

How much do you think they're paying for TP in Caracas?
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Fuck Suddlecheck - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:33:04 EST E2Yofruj No.183312 Reply
>>183311
Eventually the hoarders space for TP, beans and pasta run out.

So far keeping with the strategy to buy the same groceries I normally do works perfectly. The only thing I am not able to get is the non-gross barilla pesto and there was a chunky inflation in the last few days. Everything on the bill was like 1.99, 2.99, 3.49 etc instead of 1.89, 2.79, etc..
My way of dealing with these idiots is basically giving jeff bezos more money and using a 15% off amazon scheduled delivery for fucking everything.
Am I a hypocrite? Somehow it's irrelevant if some grocery chain or amazon corners the market.
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Fuck Brongergold - Mon, 16 Mar 2020 19:13:45 EST wLcCGmEc No.183313 Reply
>>183312
I went this morning and bought some stuff. There wasn't anything missing but tp really. They were in the middle of restocking almost everything and there was no one else in there really.
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Sophie Hablingdock - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:23:01 EST L6BKXzXR No.183316 Reply
>>183311
Don't know what you are saying, that was friday the 13th to sunday.
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Henry Clopperway - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:27:02 EST SYycwuqC No.183318 Reply
Im sorry the USA is being led by an Orange monster.
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Henry Clopperway - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:28:03 EST SYycwuqC No.183319 Reply
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>>183318
Shit that sounded chinabot like. Im not chinabot.
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Isabella Fanworth - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 02:05:07 EST 4scaaRdR No.183320 Reply
>>183319

Americans are so batshit insane that they reply to Chinabots like retards
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George Sobberman - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:24:10 EST KZ78yJN9 No.183322 Reply
>>183320
Americans used to believe in free speech, now they hate chinabot.

Wake up
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Phineas Diblingkare - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 00:27:06 EST 4scaaRdR No.183347 Reply
>>183322

Americans used to be Americans, now they are Americans.

Weird.
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Charlotte Croppernatch - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 00:36:28 EST dZDaQqJv No.183349 Reply
>>183347
Be;s Amerricans america, saaave 40% by switchong ro geico.

Beep.

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Alice Pallywot - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 06:40:43 EST nTdZcd96 No.183358 Reply
>>183349
Americans move in and move out, hands up now hands down.

Back up, back up.

Tell me what you gonna do now?
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Molly Mallyville - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 06:52:29 EST DnQ32w8b No.183359 Reply
>>183358
Americans used to ask Can We Build and responded Yes We Can but now they say No to Blacksmiths

It is time for Americans to say Yes to No more hardships and No to Yes more International Dynasties

What will you do?
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Molly Mallyville - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 07:26:59 EST DnQ32w8b No.183360 Reply
>>183359
Was this post on the nose enough? I don't want to accidentally get a ban by one of the mods
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Archie Blabberford - Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:31:12 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183374 Reply
>>183359

Can they put a price tag on the death and misery of corona sufferers?

Yes they can.

Can they afford it?

Trump tells Wall Street not to worry.
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Nathaniel Drissledork - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:30:07 EST DnQ32w8b No.183376 Reply
>>183374
Americans want no whammies, they exclaim

They say that whammies are the unwelcome thief of pressure luck

But whammies take all their money because of blacksmith concerns

Who asked for whammies? The American government has pressed the American people's luck
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Augustus Fuggleway - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 04:48:04 EST dC7u8ug3 No.183377 Reply
>>183299
the german constitution explicitly forbids domestic deployment of troops within the country. afaik thereve been only two exceptions, both during natural disasters such as floodings. the government would never deploy the troops in order to secure a datacenter, it might however need to pass emergency laws once a curfew is to be established. but that would require both the bundestag and the nationalsitzubg to be assembled which is going to be impossible until theres an emergency voting system established via video conference or something like that, because its already illegal to hold gatherings of more than a hundred people.

the CEO of curevac who met with trump was already removed from his position on the board and has been replaced by a founding member.

and im not too sure about full on communism but i look forward to a bunch of yuppies getting their shit spun sideways. at least in berlin and hamburg please.
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Cornelius Trotwell - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 05:05:22 EST R+lE4y+h No.183378 Reply
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>>183312

Not the anon you're responding to here, and I'm not one to encourage fear or anything, but... this thing with supermarkets being almost empty of many products is occurring seemingly in many\most countries. I'm Australian and so this is taking place on opposite sides of the planet. Barilla pasta in Australia is pretty much all made in Italy, I know that some Barilla products in the US are made in the US, but the entire world now is 'hoarding' at least to some small degree, so those factors in Italy are going to have to start working almost full time to restock supermarkets, and people are still going to be buying more for a while because they've been spooked. Everyone who buys a little extra to last a little longer is in a way acting 'rationally' now.

When the toilet paper thing started happening here in Australia, the government reassured everyone, they and the supermarkets insisted that "there's no supply issue here in Australia, we manufacture most toilet paper here, just stop overbuying! This will be over in a few days", then the supermarkets started limiting toilet paper to 4 units per customer, then 1, then online delivery orders were all booked out, then they stopped taking orders from people in extreme need. Supermarkets outside of major cities got inundated with people from the cities driving out to buy up goods, in some cases they've started paying bouncer to check that people live locally before letting them in.

I'm sure people will calm down over time, and as supply continues people will reach a point where they feel safe enough with their little stack, but how long might that take? At first I believed the toilet paper thing would be over in a week, but it's still going on weeks later. I'm guessing this could last even a month or more? It takes shipping from Europe about 10 days to get to Australia, I think? But that's under normal conditions.

My position is that the governments of the world have messed up badly. They should have taken more subtle actions to slow the disease. It seems like the mainstream media fearmongering and the actions of governments are going to do way more harm to the world than the virus could have, even if left totally unchecked.
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Jarvis Bribberwotch - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 06:27:35 EST dZDaQqJv No.183379 Reply
>>183378
Grocery stores only have as much food as they think they can sell on site. The store by my house got ravaged by rubes last friday, I went last last night right after it was restocked and it was pretty empty. The only shitty part was the restrictions they set on everything that made it so I couldn't get my regular groceries. The limit was 2 bread products and I wanted bread, hotdog and hamburger buns. Looks like those burgers are going to be on regular ass bread.
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Reuben Huvingwan - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 12:19:15 EST kww5e9JC No.183384 Reply
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>mfw most Nazis on /pol/ were done with prepping for Wuhan-style quarantine by the end of January, while dumb normies are now panic-buying toilet paper and Leftoids can't even wipe their asses anymore

I have to say though, it was insane how much the media and government propaganda in my country downplayed this virus before it took off here. Even in mid-February the gov was still claiming that a major outbreak here would be unlikely.
If I couldn't read English, Japanese and Chinese, and didn't understand the concept of exponential growth, I probably would've been caught by surprise as well. Then again, if I was that dumb, I'd also be a leftist. You guys probably run around licking doorknobs at Chinese restaurants to show everyone on instagram how anti-fascist you are.
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Beatrice Nicklestock - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 12:27:09 EST SYycwuqC No.183385 Reply
>>183384
Lmao nazis are so fucking retarded. This is the single dumbest post on the entire board right now. Go fap to loli on 4chins you loveless sexless retarded fuck.

>leftys are buying tp

Except its wal mart fat donald supporters who are hoarding this shit. Right wing karens are your heros.
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Graham Miffingmetch - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 12:57:57 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183386 Reply
>>183384
>Alt-right fan-fiction

Note, Nazis can't even afford to keep their websites up.
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Reuben Huvingwan - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:54:57 EST kww5e9JC No.183388 Reply
>>183385
>>leftys are buying tp
lol, nice reading comprehension, faggot. I didn't even write that. Also, nice projection there.

>>183379
Oh boy, you better go try and find some proper hamburger buns before your GF's lover kicks the shit out of you for serving him those nothing burgers.

>>183386
>calling verifiably true facts "fan-fiction"
nice cope, brainlet.

>Nazis can't even afford to keep their websites up
Yeah, I suppose when you're a conformist lefty incapable of critical thinking and never had a subversive or original thought in your life, it's a bit hard to understand how difficult it is to stay online when Capitalism actually cracks down on you. Running a website isn't easy when almost every domain registrar, every big hosting provider, PayPal, Amazon, ad companies, social media companies and even fucking banks and credit card companies are refusing you service, despite never hosting anything illegal whatsoever on your site. Those companies really don't take it lightly when someone wants to take away their cheap imported and outsourced labor. Given all this adversity, it honestly amazes me how much stuff is still being kept online using things like TOR, cryptocurrencies and other p2p/blockchain tech, not to mention small businesses. The establishment is definitely succeeding at thinning out the herd and suppressing a lot of info from reaching the public at large, but they're also inadvertently turning Nazis into tech gurus.

Anyway, enough with the bantz, how are you guys holding up in terms of work with all these quarantine measures? I hear a lot of people already lost their jobs due to lack of business, whereas in some countries the government enforces paid leave. I work from home anyway, while the GF usually works at an office and now works from home at the behest of her employer, so I have to listen to her on the phone in the other room the whole time. Gotta admit I'm a little bit jealous right now of the people who are basically getting a free vacation. Apparently in the US, Trump is floating the idea of just sending every American a thousand bucks or so during the crisis -- in addition to the usual corrupt corporate bailouts, of course.
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Graham Miffingmetch - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:04:19 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183389 Reply
>>183388
Please use more buzzwords, I almost have an Alt-right bingo!
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Cornelius Dartdock - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:51:33 EST h5n3fheo No.183390 Reply
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>Dumbasses like this think they're going to be war heroes in the great boogaloo
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Oliver Snodwater - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:58:14 EST lLlxhONa No.183391 Reply
>>183388
why can't you nerds do or say anything without it being primarily to spite the alt left leftard leftists? btw the nazis are dead, you're referring to larpers behind computer screens who get punched in the face if they go outside and express their true beliefs so of course they stay on the internet jerking off to aryan fanfiction. posting your shitty fox news opinions on here in tandem with casual conversation is more embarrassing than trying to adopt a fursona avatar, though maybe we should pity you because you obviously lack an understanding of social cues.
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Frederick Nicklewell - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:10:36 EST E2Yofruj No.183392 Reply
You know how you can tell if somebody is a truly despicable human being?
If they continue to post "alt-right" bullshit on a situation that personally affects them as well.
Any excuses about this being for the lulz or just general edginess are bunk at this point.
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Cornelius Hollerhall - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:42:18 EST vddqZalQ No.183393 Reply
>>183392
I'm not a nazi but seriously, I'd be 100% fine if nothing was done on a government level across the globe and 20-30 million perished. Haill Sithis.
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Phoebe Buddlesark - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 19:42:32 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183396 Reply
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>>183391

Don't feed the retard. It will keep leaving its excrements across the board if you do.

Just ignore the occational shit flinging from such people, they are easy to spot; if they actually intended to be taken seriously they'd write in proper english posts and not the most base chan lingo.
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John Pocklock - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 22:16:27 EST dZDaQqJv No.183397 Reply
>>183388
>Oh boy, you better go try and find some proper hamburger buns before your GF's lover kicks the shit out of you for serving him those nothing burgers.

So much projection. Let me try. I'll send the little quadroons over to raid your stockpile of tendies and mayo while i'm sitting in the corner beating off to a bunch off basketball players taking their delayed season frustrations out on her pink jackyl cave if you know what I'm saying, your mom isn't going to stop them from coming in because the old bitch is in her bed resperating and flicking her bean to videos of the woman whose bills I pay getting rammed by the Boston Celtics, and your chair assisted lift will only make it up from the basement just in time for them to push you down and watch you flop around like a doritio poweder stained manatee in stained sweatpants. We're having tendies tonight.
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John Pocklock - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 22:34:08 EST dZDaQqJv No.183399 Reply
>>183398
How is botting from home? I bet you have all the whole, raw onions you can eat like an apple any time you want you fat, happy son of a bitch. Fuck you and your job security.
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James Fumbleforth - Thu, 19 Mar 2020 23:21:19 EST 38NiHsDY No.183400 Reply
Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?
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Shit Demmlenid - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 00:58:54 EST jgqnLHqu No.183401 Reply
Yeesh.. Sure are a lot of 18yo seniors around, oh that's right they shut schools so we're going to have to deal with a plague of especially educated individuals for a while great

n b
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Basil Shittingman - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 01:20:07 EST DnQ32w8b No.183402 Reply
My completely absurd china bot post that you'd have to be a moron to not realize was a joke got deleted. It was literally referencing Whammies from the game show Press Your Luck. Wow, I'm sorry that it was too on the nose for you guys?
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John Pocklock - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 03:39:13 EST dZDaQqJv No.183404 Reply
>>183402
Yeah, I'm sure it was hurt feelings all around as at least one mod punching clean through their monitor in rage at the thought of making jest of a show only people old enough to die from corona would get and not someone that is a whole lot less invested than you in your post than you are mistaking the spam satire for actual spam.
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Lydia Huckletick - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 04:16:19 EST 1pDPp4n7 No.183407 Reply
Would calling the Gestapo on neighbors who cough keep cops busy and wake people up about the dangers of the police state?
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Beatrice Gecklepot - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:53:54 EST 1dbue7tc No.183410 Reply
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>>183384
Sounds like someone's scream-crying and lashing out after they just lost their service industry job and can't take back the $600 of toilet paper piled up in the basement.
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Jarvis Heffingwill - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:18:29 EST /7uFInDu No.183411 Reply
>>183385
Idk man, where Im at most of the old people are just perplexed that everyone bought all the gallon water jugs, they need distilled on a normal day for their CPAPs.
Mostly just Mexicans and islanders trying to buy out TP here from what I saw in walmart the other day. The white people are buying all the ground beef lol
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Martin Blathershaw - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:34:46 EST vddqZalQ No.183413 Reply
Baby's first panic. Shit is still way, way over blown. I have to listen to newstalk radio all day at work and I have to remind myself, barely anybody is dying. Globally only like 10k have died. I was into guns and competitive shooting since 2010. When Sandy Hook happened, holy fuck, you think this shit is bad, lol. Try not being able to buy literally anything for 4 years straight. Panic buying and hoarding and reselling was the status quo for a couple months, then it was a death of the industry to the common gun owner. Stores couldn't get stock, nobody could get ammo, many places went under, and the only thing you could maybe find was shit that was normal 10 bucks costing 100 or guns that costed 400 on a good day being sold like hotcakes for 2000 fucking dollars lol.

Keep a level head and don't buy into the media hype and panic. Wait for the sweet trump money to roll in, keep employed and don't snatch all your money out of the stock market at the bottom. Nobody posting on this board is over 40 anyways, you'll be fine. In a year or two when everything settles down, remember these days, save more, hold at least 3 months cash reserves and 2-4 weeks of essential goods like shit paper and canned food. Don't go all doomsday prepper and waste thousands on a bunch of shit, but be prepared for something like this.

>I'm flying high man, I'm about to dump 30k into the stock market at the end of this year when it all settles down, buy a cheap house to rent out that some dummy got foreclosed on, laugh my ass all the way to the bank because I acted like it was the end times and saved everything during the times everyone else was living high on the hog. Good enough for them, the American Dream they say, "Fuck you, I got mine."

Why don't you live in a McMasion? Why don't you have a new truck? Why don't you have a boat? Why don't you have kids?
Yeah, look where that got you dumb consumerist faggots, you're out of a job with no savings, 3 kids running around the house all day, fighting over toilet paper in some godforsaken Walmart looking like a fucking idiot while the Repo man looms around the tree in the front yard. Boy it feels good to be vindicated, especially in times of turmoil. I told them all the party would end but I got called a scrooge, a cheapo, and a miserable fuck who's obsessed with money. Suck deez nutz. I will be of course claiming financial hardship to get my obamafone Trump ChangeTM
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Nathaniel Wicklemure - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:23:47 EST tTnap6yB No.183414 Reply
this thread gave me [disease]
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Charles Grandridge - Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:21:06 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183417 Reply
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>>183413

>Shit is still way, way over blown.

Just stop. Stop posting on the internet about this. You're an embarrassment and dangerous to the public.


Italy just had to call in the army to ferry out dead people from the hardest hit areas because the cremation services there are way over capacity.

Understand that the rate covid-19 kills people alone will put your community out of action if not controlled. Enough healthy people are getting sick enough from this to overwhelm hospitals, even if most will survive this.
People, don't listen to retards like >>183413

Just look up the facts; ~20% require hospitalization. It spreads at least twice faster than a flu. They estimate at least 50-60% will catch this if no controls are enacted.

Wash your hands, keep your ass at home if you have a cold, and pray your leaders are smarter than >>183413
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Ernest Dartford - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 05:20:18 EST E2Yofruj No.183425 Reply
>>183413
>Globally only like 10k have died.
And that number doubles every 2.5 days in the past which means if that continues your shitpost would read:

>after one week: Globally only like 70k have died.
>after one month: Globally only like 41M have died.
>after not even two months: Globally only 167B have died.
Notice how that last number is larger than the current population of the planet? No shit Sherlock.
This implies after somewhere around 1-2 months everybody who was susceptible to dying from the disease did. And that would be much higher than the 3.4% figure the WHO provided because a larger number would go untreated.

Current measures are in no way overblown, if you look at it rationally they are barely sufficient.
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Ernest Dartford - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 06:32:00 EST E2Yofruj No.183429 Reply
>>183417
>They estimate at least 50-60% will catch this if no controls are enacted.
That's even with controls. It's a general figure that is valid no matter what we do at this point.

Realistically we're past the point where everybody who can catch it will. Children are immune which does not mean they won't get infected just that they won't get sick. That's why it's not 100%.
It also implies 100% will carry the virus, eventually.
In theory it's also possible to "starve out" the virus if literally everybody avoids person to person interaction but that's not realistic.

The point of the measures is "flattening the curve" to prevent the amount of sick people at a given time to outgrow the max capacity of the health care system.
If that is done the mortality rate can asymptotically approach zero.
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Ernest Dartford - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 06:35:28 EST E2Yofruj No.183430 Reply
>>183428
How do these fact make you feel? Perhaps you need a safe space?
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Matilda Habblehadge - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 06:41:48 EST HNjso1OQ No.183431 Reply
>>183429
Keep pumping your bullshit, smoothie. Anyone who has taken a biology class knows you're full of shit.
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Jenny Snodridge - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 08:22:15 EST 3XaoeODY No.183435 Reply
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>>183410
>scream-crying
Hey I'm not the one here with the smelly ass and no bread.
>after they just lost their service industry job
I'm a software dev, and before that I was making ok money as a Japanese translator. If this situation gets to the point where people stop using computers and reading manga despite being stuck at home under quarantine, I'll have bigger problems to worry about than laughing at dumb leftists on the internet.
>can't take back the $600 of toilet paper piled up in the basement
>toilet paper
I use a bidet, because I'm not a filthy savage. You whine about global warming, yet you won't stop killing all those trees for tp because you prefer using dry pieces of paper to smear shit around in your ass instead of actually cleaning it with water. What truly loathsome creatures you are.
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Jenny Bardgold - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 08:29:28 EST cs3pi0AK No.183436 Reply
>>183435
LMAO wow, you can have an answer for everything when you don't mind just making up bullshit.
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Clara Sicklehood - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 12:30:16 EST vddqZalQ No.183437 Reply
Still, the media is causing way too much hype. It won't be that bad, the economy was due for a collapse, everything will return to normal; minus a few old people in 6 months. Probably the only lasting thing that will come from this is Trump loses reelection. China has already gotten over it and they're a third world shithole that caused this by eating magical bat soup.
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Esther Pillerbock - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 14:11:42 EST dZDaQqJv No.183438 Reply
>>183435
Just because you eat your tendies with chop sticks while sitting on the floor across from a tablet that has a visual novel you modded to make pegging an option doesn't make you a "Japanese Translator". I don't care how many kimonos you have.
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Charles Grandridge - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:01:20 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183440 Reply
>>183429

Herd immunity ensures a sizeable minority will remain uninfected. It will never go 100%, it's a statistical impossibility. Thank fuck, but it still means scores of dead people before this is over.

inb4 idiots claiming you can catch this twice. No, you've been fooled by retards or straight up malicious journalists who don't care the reports from doctors actually claim it can flare up twice during an infection just like a cold or the fact that tests aren't 100% reliable.


>>183437

Just shut up dude. This is the greatest threat we've faced since WW2 in the West, which is apparent if you read and understand the scientific facts of this disease.
20% of infectees go severe and need medical attention, that means complete collapse of health systems if the spread is not controlled. For yourself and all you care about, don't leave your house unless necessary.

Christ I've been warning people since january of this, and you still get morons who just can't understand this direct threat to our civilization. It's fucking frustrating, people still go to bars or other places where masses congregate like its nothing. People fucking still call this hysteria because they've been conditioned to doubt any information.

Nothing will ever be the same once this is over.
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Cornelius Goodworth - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:41:07 EST E2Yofruj No.183445 Reply
>>183440
>Herd immunity ensures a sizeable minority will remain uninfected. It will never go 100%, it's a statistical impossibility. Thank fuck, but it still means scores of dead people before this is over.
That's an interesting proposition. Do you have a resource to back that up?
My reasoning is the simulation visualisation they published of the social distancing measures almost all stabilize 100% infection overall.
Only those with extreme measures do no not where almost every carrier is isolated to some extent.

>inb4 idiots claiming you can catch this twice. No, you've been fooled by retards or straight up malicious journalists who don't care the reports from doctors actually claim it can flare up twice during an infection just like a cold or the fact that tests aren't 100% reliable.
Depends on the mutation rate afik. The concept of not catching the common cold over several times over ones lifetime would be laughable.
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Polly Sinkinspear - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:54:27 EST EZmQg7Op No.183446 Reply
>>183440
Eventually enough of the population gets infected where you have less severe mutations that also confer immunity. Otherwise all of humanity would have been wiped out with SARS, or MERS, or the pig virus. Epidemiology depends on everyone being exposed. I understand wanting to be critical of what you're told, but try to do it from an educated place. Start with the basics.
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:55:07 EST vddqZalQ No.183447 Reply
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>>183440
> but it still means scores of dead people before this is over.
> This is the greatest threat we've faced since WW2 in the West,
> that means complete collapse of health systems
> this direct threat to our civilization.

Yeah well, if the sky is falling I'm perfectly okay with that. I voted for Trump on the accelerationionalist platform. And people told me it wouldn't work. Well, 3 years after Trump is in office the economy has went tits up, gas prices start under 2 dollars, and the Chinese FluTM is going to cause mass graves.

>Sheeeit I think my dick is getting hard.
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Polly Sinkinspear - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:55:53 EST EZmQg7Op No.183448 Reply
>>183447
Only the poor suffer, which is you. Congratulations.
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Nigel Punnerwill - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:01:06 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183449 Reply
>>183445

>That's an interesting proposition. Do you have a resource to back that up?

It's standard epidemology, look it up. Even the black plague didn't infect everyone. The disease spread slows down a lot once most are infected and the immune survivors are in majority.

The models you find in the press now ignore a lot of important variables, like behavior once a lot are infected. People are not points randomly moving on a 2d plane.
They're there to scare you in order to keep you at home, which honestly is a good thing which you should do right now.

A cold can't be compared because of the number of viruses we call common cold. The most common of colds, rhinoviruses, infects 6 people per infectee and not around the average of 3 which WHO thinks this SARS variant infect per person. Mostly what you know as a cold is infact a host of viruses not really related to each other.
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Nigel Punnerwill - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:06:17 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183450 Reply
>>183447

Well ok. I guess you are just that edgy. Cool for you.

Don't visit your grandparents, you might infect them.
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Cornelius Goodworth - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:09:55 EST E2Yofruj No.183451 Reply
>>183449
Thanks.
>It's standard epidemology, look it up.
I will, have a hard time finding some resources that relate to the epidemiology of covid 19 written in layman's terms though.
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Nigel Punnerwill - Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:14:40 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183452 Reply
>>183451

Even scientists can't say much about this yet tbh. I may be completely wrong.
It is a new human virus after all, notice how experts say how much we are learning for example. For me that's what's so fucking scary, not the death toll in Italy the past days.
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 00:09:28 EST vddqZalQ No.183453 Reply
I work adjacently to the industry and I can tell you, even after Sandy Hook, there wasn't a run like this. We've seen stock and inventory wiped out in literally less than 2 weeks. I'm talking about literally everything gone. I've spoken to some of the local shops and they've had people coming in buying ammo that they don't even have guns chambered in, they're just buying something since they can't get guns, or even ammo, they say they just want something to trade with and are utterly desperate. One store in specific said they sold out of all magazine fed weapons in less than 5 days. I had visited them on 3/6 for a delivery and they were doing flash sales as they were trying to keep lights on and offered me 20% off sticker price of any auto-loading pistol in stock, just take a pick. After being in there yesterday for a delivery, the entire stock is gone save for 3 single shot shotguns, 1 revolver, and some elephant gun rounds. Mags: Gone. Guns: Gone. Ammo: Gone. Accessories: Nearly all gone. The only things they have in stock are silencers and NFA stuff. I ventured to the walmart for the first time since everything started and all the food that is frozen or canned is picked over and wiped out, the ammo counter is wiped clean, they have literally nothing, and all paper plates, towels, toilet paper, water etc are all limited to 1 per customer per day, and there is nothing in stock.

>https://www.npr.org/2020/03/20/817369503/some-stock-up-on-guns-and-ammunition-during-coronavirus-crisis

People are losing their shit over this crap. It was interesting at first to sit back and mock the droves of idiots but I'm getting sick of this shit. All the damn kids driving around acting like idiots because there hasn't been school for 2 weeks now, you can't get anything you need unless you line up at 5am in the morning in front of a store, all you can get is shitty and expensive fast food, most stores have shut down that aren't serving fast food or groceries, and the gov't is talking about shutting down the country which will fuck over my company and put me out of work. Not that I'm really bothered, I've got money stashed away but still, I only have that money because I didn't spend it. This shit has crashed the economy and I'm down to 1200 miles a week of driving already as freight is grinding to a standstill.
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Emma Dandlewed - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 01:41:51 EST O4IqC8Qe No.183455 Reply
>>183453
>you can't get anything you need unless you line up at 5am in the morning in
>front of a store,

Yea, this all in basically two weeks. 3 weeks 4 weeks ago things seemed somewhat tense but stable, that rapidly changed. Shipping, 3 weeks ago was
pretty much stable. Now the scam people are seeming to be becoming widespread. Like yea, 20,000 dollar government check spams.
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Emma Dandlewed - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 02:43:42 EST O4IqC8Qe No.183456 Reply
>>183437
>Still, the media is causing way too much hype.

Hype is the so-called opioid epidemic. Which has lasted how long now? It means basically nothing
today.
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Basil Parringwill - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 09:01:44 EST qrbNioCq No.183464 Reply
>>183453
>I work adjacently to the industry and I can tell you, even after Sandy Hook, there wasn't a run like this.
If you've never seen a run like this then you haven't been around long enough. People run on guns and ammo during disasters, and the bigger the disaster, the bigger the run. My dad had coffee cans full of .22lr ammo. It's something boomers do.
>the entire stock is gone save for 3 single shot shotguns, 1 revolver, and some elephant gun rounds. Mags: Gone. Guns: Gone. Ammo: Gone. Accessories: Nearly all gone. The only things they have in stock are silencers and NFA stuff.
Sounds about right? How old are you?
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:09:26 EST vddqZalQ No.183466 Reply
>>183464
I've been delivering shit to gun stores and pawn brokers for 15 years fam. I've seen stock wiped out like this, but nowhere near as fast. Like, literally stores changed nearly overnight from sales to empty shelves. It is the speed, not the severity. Also, unless you're one of those kids who thinks 35+ is a boomer, it isn't just boomers panicking. It is nearly everyone in the country. In fact, I've been told regular gun folks aren't panic buying as badly as everyone else. I guess because 8 years of Obama and the threat of Hillary, well, they've got everything they could possibly need I suppose.
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Shitting Barddale - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:23:12 EST ZbKQHcFk No.183468 Reply
>>183466
>I've been delivering shit to gun stores and pawn brokers for 15 years fam.
So shut the fuck up, "fam". Go talk to someone who was around when the wall fell. You haven't got the experience to be speaking as definitively as you are.
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:40:30 EST vddqZalQ No.183470 Reply
>>183468
You seem to be a little hot around the collar. Bruh.
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Graham Bunningchetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:11:26 EST uvFBTWv6 No.183471 Reply
>>183470
You seem to be spreading fear on the internet for no reason. Why don't you go play somewhere else? This website is mostly adults.
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:13:03 EST vddqZalQ No.183473 Reply
>>183471
Check my ID lol. I'm just making shit up endlessly to troll these idiots. I've got nothing to do so I just annoy people on the internet to spread more misery and suffering lol. I've got posts saying this is all blown out of proportion to posts saying the end of the world is coming and the orange man did it bad.

420chan is one of the easiest places to troll and nobody does shit with moderation because the mods here don't give a fuck anymore and just use it to leech ebegging bux.

Stop taking yourselves so seriously. This place is like trolling Tumblr. I never understood why the more left wing a place is, the easier and more gullible the userbase is to troll. Like I could just say I'm voting for Trump and this place would have a shit. You people are like children lol. Buncha losers. Trump is going to wipe Biden across the debate stage btw, and you BernieBros are going to be the ones who cause Biden to lose. gj no re kek
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Barnaby Mandernure - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:19:12 EST aRAdhvmK No.183474 Reply
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>>183473
Fuck off, retard. And stop giving a shit whether people think you're smart, jfc.
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Isabella Picklebetch - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:36:31 EST vddqZalQ No.183475 Reply
>>183474
>And yet you still keep replying. lol nice pic, kiddo.
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Jenny Wavingpare - Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:33:44 EST f+YtCUt4 No.183476 Reply
>>183475
You got someone to acknowledge your existence, congrats.
What's the next phase of your plan, m8?
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Priscilla Hiblingsire - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 11:13:07 EST eW7lNgCN No.183485 Reply
>>183476

May I join you fellows in the exchange of written words?
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Basil Dullymere - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 19:31:14 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183496 Reply
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But guys, now that covid is everywhere lets just appreciate the things you can do to limit spread and reduce the risk of you catching it.

Follow your nations rules and advice.
Keep your ass at home unless necessary. Sucks to have to work somewhere else, but that is necessary. Ask your boss for home office if that's a viable option. Unless your boss' a cunt.
Keep store visits to a minimum. Though I don't know where the limit between hoarding behavior ends and buying in order to limit your visits to a shop ends. Use your brain. It's probably better than mine.
Wash your fucking hands, both before and after leaving your house.
Wear a mask if you know how to do it without infecting yourself.
Avoid contact with elderly people.
Keep at least two meter distance from others.
Don't go to parties, don't go to town, avoid large gatherings. This virus loves its super spreader events.
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Sidney Drackledog - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:09:08 EST GW1axdWk No.183499 Reply
>>183497
Considering the border closings in the Schengen Zone and the economic dislocation, we're possibly watching the EU start to collapse before our eyes.
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Hugh Clonderberk - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:12:25 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183502 Reply
>>183499
Yeah, they said that about Brexit, and it seems like it shutup alot of the Anti-EUs for how awful it is.

but yeah, keep telling us its the end of the EU, only been saying that for 20 years now.
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Shitting Crugglechene - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:34:43 EST nKLaMq4i No.183504 Reply
>>182192

thats funny lilly. Perhabs the problem was that people didnt react to begin with?
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Shitting Crugglechene - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:43:20 EST nKLaMq4i No.183505 Reply
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>>182363

I TOLD YOU GUYS I TOLD YOU! YOU DIDNT LISTEN YOU JUST BE ARROGANT FOOLS!
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Walter Pittdock - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:47:42 EST glTXoVFh No.183506 Reply
>>183505
You were the only one who knew that we were trying to get people to not get sick so they wouldn't clog the hospitals.

Why didn't you tell anyone? I thought we were all supposed to get the virus and spread it around.

You dope.
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Shitting Crugglechene - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:53:25 EST nKLaMq4i No.183508 Reply
>>183506

no but seriously its fucked up. Like, you hear from the experts and you repeat what they say, and you get shit thrown in your face. How was that such a common reaction? Its fucked up. I have had disagreements about lots of shit but when it came to this, people were especially nasty and arrogant.
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Walter Pittdock - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 17:58:26 EST glTXoVFh No.183509 Reply
>>183508
Why are you repeating what experts say though? There may be some hospitals that are at capacity, ours are not. There may be some tragic situations where governors of states who are not the same party as the president are not being served, many are. Disease response in the US is a story of states and can only be told when it's over. Why are you so jubilant now? What have you added to the conversation here except restating your conjecture?
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Shitting Crugglechene - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:02:46 EST nKLaMq4i No.183510 Reply
>>183509

why are you being such a anus? Why do you think i wouldnt want to discuss the alarming expert shit? Do you think the current measures will flatten the curve?
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Shitting Crugglechene - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:36:11 EST nKLaMq4i No.183512 Reply
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>>183511

pretty cool. Anyway yes it was alarming and it turned out... rightfully so.
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Walter Pittdock - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:44:24 EST glTXoVFh No.183513 Reply
>>183512
Why are you talking in the past tense? This is ongoing.
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Caroline Sonderlure - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:18:15 EST vddqZalQ No.183523 Reply
>Work declared essential. Which tbf it is.
>Get double pay just for showing up. Told to sit in place and wait for calls.
>Sleep all day, maybe for 1 hour do you actually work. Get paid double time.
>3 cases in entire county.
>Sit around with the local cops and BS because there is nothing to do for them either, they're on emergency orders.
>Wait around for a 1200 dollar gov't check lol.

Pretty sweet gig to be honest. Don't know how long this will keep up though. I know a few people who are somewhat high up in FEMA and I know 2 people in the CDC. Let's just say, apparently things are about to get pretty bad. I'm remaining a steadfast skeptic as I always do but, when you think about it.

>Half the country lives paycheck to paycheck.
>Half the country has been without work for 2 weeks now.
>Most aren't getting paid.
>Lots are unemployed now. Unemployment offices are swamped and can't get checks out fast enough.
>Grocery stores are all barren 24/7.
>Droves of people are about to be without money to pay bills or buy anything and are going to be hungry and unable to get food.

If this goes on for another month, we'll see widespread rioting and looting. I'm willing to be with tensions as high as they are and as many people in this country being ruled by fear, the deaths from corona virus will pale in comparison to the deaths from murders/homicides. I can see why Trump wants everyone to go back to work, what we're facing is probably much worse than worse case corona. This is post-2016 America after all. This isn't a time of unity and brotherly love, this is the age of, "Fuck all of ____! Kill em all!" And in the same breath, medical officials are calling for the country to just grind to a standstill for weeks on end, some saying 2 weeks, others saying 3 months. Shit, I don't even think I could go without a paycheck for 3 months. I'd be desperate, and I'm pretty well stocked on foods and money.

I dunno mayne, the solution here is bad any which way you look at it. If you drop the political hoopla and treat this as a non-political issue and just look at brass tacks. Shit, lots are just going to die. And quelling civil unrest seems like the next step of progression. I think the government knows that this shit is going to get way out of hand. Overnight the Dems went from blocking the stimulus package to just accepting whatever with open arms. Trump went from a somber and somewhat logical process of following some experts advice to just being all, "Fuck this, get back to work." Something just feels off about this shit now to me at least. I'm still not worried about Covid-19. What I'm starting to get a little uneasy about is civil unrest from millions of poor people becoming desperate.
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Cedric Pemblechid - Tue, 24 Mar 2020 23:53:39 EST 4scaaRdR No.183524 Reply
>>183523

quite a sobering take. to be honest i hadn't even considered that whole perspective, and feel naive for not doing so. guess it's time to hit up my grandpa's ridiculous arsenal for a couple of handguns and some ammo
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Graham Clayfoot - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 07:38:13 EST glTXoVFh No.183540 Reply
>>183524
To shoot yourself in the head? If you're this easy to manipulate, that's certainly the best option.
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Cedric Pemblechid - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:39:51 EST 4scaaRdR No.183558 Reply
>>183540

lol wtf? if i want to have a gun in my residence i therefore should commit suicide? you need marx in your life
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Clara Clayfuck - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:44:20 EST yHL4NyCm No.183559 Reply
>>183558
If your unironic response to this is to arm yourself and prepare to kill others then yeah, do yourself first.
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Cedric Pemblechid - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:51:40 EST 4scaaRdR No.183561 Reply
>>183559

i think you're ascribing an aggressive intent on me that i have not demonstrated in the slightest
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Clara Clayfuck - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 15:33:33 EST yHL4NyCm No.183565 Reply
>>183561
>i think you're ascribing an aggressive intent on me that i have not demonstrated in the slightest
>he said, with a gun
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Caroline Sonderlure - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 18:19:45 EST vddqZalQ No.183577 Reply
>Country is literally weeks away from mass looting and rioting from starving poor people.
>A country that is loaded with armed people.

Yeah, keep holding onto your Democratic talking points of gunz badd mmkay? Meanwhile, you'll get raped, shot, and then eaten by crazed loons because you held onto a political ideology that made no sense. Chumps. At least if they come to raid and pillage me, I can kill one or two of them before they get me. I did my part.
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Phineas Fabblenock - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:10:14 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183581 Reply
>>183577

Just wanna point out that Trump has given you people horrible leadership when it mattered most and let it spread throughout the US, and still is doubling down this will disappear within weeks.

Which leads into this fractioning between your little political camps of parties when what you need most of now is unity. Good job one-upping the democrats, you will both struggle to breathe in two weeks.
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Eugene Crellerwine - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:29:34 EST YKzHhcXE No.183586 Reply
>>183581
Look here, N'wah we are the United STATES. A union of independent sovereign states. My state is handling things fine. Can't speak for the rest of them though. They're probably fucjed because they're all retarded.
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Eugene Honeybanks - Wed, 25 Mar 2020 23:56:24 EST uaOH9H59 No.183590 Reply
>>183577
>At least if they come to raid and pillage me

I think you meant rape and pillage you.
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Eugene Crellerwine - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:10:47 EST YKzHhcXE No.183591 Reply
>>183590
Im gonna do so many rapes. I got my catapault ready to fling coronavirus sickies into prepper forts so me and the boys can catch em and fuck em while they fleeee
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Eugene Crellerwine - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:15:25 EST YKzHhcXE No.183592 Reply
>>183591
Then we'll rape everyone and stuff their living bodies underneath wooden boards. We'll have a feast with dancing and music on top of the boards, crushing them to death in the process. We will leave one survivor, and set him loose to run across the badlands and spread fear and terror to the remaining prepper communities.
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Eugene Crellerwine - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:17:05 EST YKzHhcXE No.183593 Reply
>>183592
The worst part? I'm a prepper, just like you. I'm preparing to become an apex predator. Are you prepped for me and my horde?
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Ernest Crettingson - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:25:30 EST dZDaQqJv No.183594 Reply
>>183591
I'm pretty sure that breaks the 6 foot rule, bud.

Do you think you can't get corona from raping people or that you're somehow immune to it?

Also, you probably couldn't get it up then would just kill the people and try and act like you raped them to convince yourself you aren't a faggot.
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Eugene Crellerwine - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:34:11 EST YKzHhcXE No.183595 Reply
>>183594
A rape victim is non-infectious for the first 24 hours after transmission. Plenty of time to run a train with my boys!
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Ernest Crettingson - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 01:00:35 EST dZDaQqJv No.183596 Reply
>>183595
You and your boys couldn't run a train out of a paper bag.
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Eugene Greenhall - Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:40:41 EST rUdDl4tv No.183622 Reply
Doctors without borders is good. US Drs. and volunteers went to fight off Ebola so that it would help stop the spread of the virus, and so we 'possibly' wouldn't eventually get it here. As well in war torn areas where they are not very much welcomed. The right, all they did was complain about it. My Dr, spent
much time in inhospitable circumstances helping people.
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Phineas Sadgelon - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 21:02:36 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183655 Reply
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20000+ today in the US alone. Holy shit you have no control.

At a least the testing for corona is finally happening. You should've been in lockdown weeks ago.

What the fuck have your president been doing the past weeks? Sitting on his ass and say MAGA to his followers? Claiming the ban on flight to China is enough? I feel for you amerifats, I really do, no one deserves to be the next Italy and you're it.

At least you got governors who knows what's up, if you're so lucky to live in a state that actually cares about people not dying.
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Phyllis Blackshaw - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:08:45 EST k4enMT4C No.183656 Reply
>>183655
We're worse than Italy by far. I can barely read the news these days, this shit show is just so fucked on so many levels.
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Walter Dartstone - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:51:14 EST O/BUJHAn No.183657 Reply
>>183655
>Sitting on his ass and say MAGA to his followers?
Yes. I accurately predicted that the president would be an effective force multiplier to this problem which I already knew was gonna fuck us up harder than any other developed country even in the best of times. What you are about to witness is the American dumpster fire of possibly the century. He's a classic psychopathic billionaire who literally only cares about money. Some classics include
>it's just a flu
>it's a democrat HOAX
>it'll clear up like a miracle one day
>pushing debunked anti-malarial drugs
>telling people to pack the churches on Easter
I should show you a list of his massive incompetence not least of which was him firing the entire CDC section that was responsible for preparing for and preventing exactly this kind of situation because he didn't feel we needed it and it was a waste of money and "I hate paying people I don't think are being useful."

You don't sound American so let me just give you some insight into the ground situation here. People only just started wearing masks in one of the hardest hit regions, but still are milling about. Misinformation is rampant, with people still thinking only terminally ill 80 year olds are at risk and that everybody under age 60 is practically immune. Literally half the fucking country still believes it's all some kind of liberal hoax to make the president look bad, I shit you not
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/inside-the-shocking-pro-trump-facebook-group-where-first-responders-call-coronavirus-a-hoax/
People are literally only now, just this week, beginning to understand that it might in fact not be just a flu. A considerable segment of the population still fully believes there is no pandemic.

You have no idea how harshly this entire country is about to get punished for its own stupidity.
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Walter Dartstone - Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:57:46 EST O/BUJHAn No.183658 Reply
>>183657
Oh yeah and I almost forgot this classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMdBTgC0yWw
Because Trump literally only gives a shit about his image, and the stock market and unemployment which he has married to his image, as well as his own personal wealth, he's been encouraging Americans to work through this. Nothing pisses him off more than people not working in the pandemic and hurting "his" bloated economic bubble. The hyperinflation from him printing trillions of dollars just to pump it directly into the stock market for stock buybacks alone has probably guaranteed our economy getting fucking by hyperinflation.

So in other words what he has done is effectively turned the pandemic into a partisan American political issue.

At the same time it should be noted him and Kushner own lots of stocks and properties in airlines, luxury resorts, hotels--all the exact kinds of things that would get fucked in a pandemic, which has only fueled speculation that he dragged his feet on even admitted there was a problem so longhe literally only stopped calling it a flu and admitting there might be a problem in early March was related to his personal financial stake in this.
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Hamilton Gollermick - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:13:36 EST BJGs3Z7H No.183674 Reply
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>>183655
A China travel ban would have been enough -- if it had been enacted in mid-January, and quickly followed up by banning other infected countries. Unfortunately, the only countries outside China that took this shit seriously early on were Israel and North Korea, while western leaders were doing jack shit until hundreds of Italians started dying everyday. And now seemingly every western country other than Czechia is inundating its citizenry with propaganda about how they shouldn't wear facemasks in public, which means that we're also not going to get infections under control like they did in Korea, Singapore and Taiwan.
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Hamilton Gollermick - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:25:59 EST BJGs3Z7H No.183676 Reply
>>183675
explain how the virus could've crossed the ocean if the people who carry it were not allowed to come here.
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Cedric Gasslemot - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:35:55 EST Q+dOO8aN No.183677 Reply
>>183676
>explain how a virus will respect national borders
I won't entertain this...
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Hamilton Gollermick - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:45:50 EST BJGs3Z7H No.183678 Reply
>>183677
>doesn't understand that the virus has to be carried by people in order to get anywhere
Oh, so you're mentally retarded! Why didn't you say that earlier? Yes, you're right, there's nothing we can do about Mr. Virus building himself a tiny little boat, sailing across the Pacific ocean and jumping into the nose of a Californian. Now that I've conceded your point, please go back to playing with the other "special" kids.
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Cedric Gasslemot - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:47:53 EST Q+dOO8aN No.183679 Reply
>>183678
Trump got it from Bolsonaro, dumbass. He's not the president of China. You think a virus has a brain and an intelligence that will respect nationality, and it's because you're a fucking idiot. Why do you people come here?
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Alice Smallworth - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:22:07 EST E2Yofruj No.183683 Reply
>>183678
>Yes, you're right, there's nothing we can do about Mr. Virus building himself a tiny little boat, sailing across the Pacific ocean and jumping into the nose of a Californian.
Haha, I can't help but picture this.

There's a point about travel bans on both sides of the isle.
The problem is both the far left and the far right have their own ideological niches to fill.
For travel bans to be effective they would have to have been quite stringent with no exceptions. Also their effectiveness is proportional to the number of other countries implementing them.
If every country on Earth implemented them they could have been part of a working approach to preventing a pandemic. (You'd still need other measure like contact tracing and quarantine effected areas for the cases where somebody went through the cracks)
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Shit Duckson - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:25:23 EST uofDbcG6 No.183684 Reply
>>183683
>it's a Chinese virus
>therefore if you ban Chinese people
>you won't get the virus
This is the mind of a racist, folks. They literally don't understand that Chinese people get the same diseases as everyone else.

And before you bitch, I've been watching the news, I remember the plane loads full of people brought back from other places that weren't even tested on the ground. They didn't come from China. Your mind has been infected by stormfront bullshit and it's causing you to make poor decisions about your health.
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Alice Smallworth - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:33:08 EST E2Yofruj No.183685 Reply
>>183684
The Nation of "China" (aka mainland china, aka the CCP controlled state) ==! The Chinese People (aka China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and expats living all over the world)
You're pretty much playing into the bullshit the more radical elements of the CCP spew up in trying to create a Han Chinese ethnostate.
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Henry Crivingstetch - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 20:29:36 EST 6QrNp7Wp No.183693 Reply
>>183674

>A China travel ban would have been enough -- if it had been enacted in mid-January, and quickly followed up by banning other infected countries.

Ah, so you do not understand how a virus with 14 day incubation time operate.

Trump didn't ban travel from Italy in January nor most of February, and he can't be blamed for it either. No one saw that one coming.

We lost this war in Janurary when nobody wanted to isolate China.

This virus does not care about your travel bans, unless you ban all.
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Lillian Pupperfuck - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 21:14:38 EST 9H0TTMqY No.183694 Reply
Nobody wanted to ban Chinese travel because of their race. This type of mentality would only happen in our current state of snowflake political pandering.
It was because the virus originated there and was blowing up in that population, if they were white, brown, or black, it would not have changed the idea one bit. It was never about race.

Do you know that gay people were restricted from giving blood for decades because of the rates of HIV in their community? Also needle users and people who have had blood transfusions

>How could someone discriminate against people who’ve had blood transfusion, I’m literally shaking and crying right now!

I’m not even speculating on whether or not it would have been effect to I state the ban, but keep the SJW malarkey out of it.
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Graham Hudgeputch - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:26:58 EST tlilhxRg No.183696 Reply
>>183694
You're retarded. The virus affected people in China, not Chinese, you fucking retarded cocksucking piece of faggot stormfront neonazi shit.

The Corona virus got to the US because TRUMP FUCKED UP THE EVACUATION FLIGHTS AND HAD AMATEURS ON THE PLANE GUIDING THE EVACUEES!
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Ass Buttfartibg - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:39:15 EST 9H0TTMqY No.183698 Reply
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>>183696
It’s almost like Chinese people come from China and 98% of them are living there. Amazing how that works right? I guess it’s just a freaky coincidence.

Nah, it’s gotta be Trumps fault that Chinese people live in China

You’re such a smart boy, you should become the first president to have an extra chromosome
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William Bubbersog - Sat, 28 Mar 2020 22:50:10 EST O/BUJHAn No.183699 Reply
>>183696
If everyone banned flights from China it never would have spread outside of China
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Donkey Dick Dave - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 02:15:03 EST pjSfU+g+ No.183704 Reply
>>183699
Yeah, and if nuclear war happend, Corona would have never existed. The thing had a fucking 2 week incubation period Unless you're fucking psychic, it had left china before anyone, even the CCP knew it exists.
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Edward Crurryseck - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 04:30:22 EST E2Yofruj No.183706 Reply
>>183704
> it had left china before anyone, even the CCP knew it exists.
Certainly possible but far from plausible.

I doubt the people who frequented the wet market where it originated were frequent travelers, let alone global travelers which is very rare in china.
The stronger case would be that it left china before the outside world got wind of it.
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Jarvis Greenlock - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 09:15:48 EST 89BDuEJt No.183710 Reply
>>183696
>you fucking retarded cocksucking piece of faggot stormfront neonazi shit.
I'm not the one who brought citizens back from a quarantine zone and only tested the Asians. That was United States President Donald J. Trump.
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William Bubbersog - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:07:53 EST O/BUJHAn No.183714 Reply
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>>183706
I knew if it had spread outside China already that Chinese were lying about number of infected in Wuhan. You would not have so many positive cases around globe unless Wuhan had at least one decimal point more infected than what they claimed. Why do you believe Chinese lies? China is still lying.
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Phyllis Bardridge - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:08:49 EST /kEkXzjZ No.183715 Reply
>>183714
>a quarter million people are straight up lying
Fuck off, shill.
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Matilda Dankinson - Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:19:04 EST O/BUJHAn No.183726 Reply
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>>183715
What quarter million?
>fuck off, shill
This is not the future you cancerous faggot. No one outside that shithole talks like that. Way to blend in.
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Beatrice Pimmerpot - Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:38:51 EST odEWg5xh No.183753 Reply
>>183726
You're cute, post your boyhole.

Shill is the perfect word to describe someone who is being paid to post obvious lies. And what are you, the language police? Hurr durr we do that on plebbit why not go the fuck back there? 🙃
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Martin Ballerstutch - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:23:41 EST FaUpvM7+ No.183786 Reply
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>>182131
Some rank and file workers knew about 39 million N95 masks lying around in a warehouse somewhere that the bosses all missed.
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Hugh Bommlekidging - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:24:19 EST O/BUJHAn No.183788 Reply
>>183753
That would clearly be you actually. You've done nothing but suck the dick of the lying Chinese. I don't even understand who or what in fuck I am supposed to be shilling for? People of planet earth maybe who're sick of Chinese lies?
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Esther Smallwill - Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:46:13 EST h2nwMSKl No.183792 Reply
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>>183726
If you think the future owns or invented the concept of calling people "shill" then you might be the most braindamaged, imageboard-poisoned shutin on this entire board.

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