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America Looks More Like Jonestown Everyday

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- Wed, 15 Jul 2020 15:01:02 EST 1UTS6pBa No.186437
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>Trump Administration Strips C.D.C. of Control of Coronavirus Data
>Hospitals have been ordered to bypass the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and send all patient information to a central database in Washington, raising questions about transparency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/us/politics/trump-cdc-coronavirus.html
Basically:
Trump fires the C.D.C. and will have close aides do their job
Effective immediately, hospital COVID-19 infection and death data will be sent directly to the whitehouse bypassing the C.D.C. After trump's review the whitehouse will provide the edited national statistics.

The death rate is about to skyrocket and Trump is going out of his way to make sure that he is the gatekeeper of COVID-19 infection and death statistics. This move is about bypassing channels which provide transparency before the death rates explode during the second wave. Make no mistake Trump is an extremely self-interested operator, known pathological liar and has no qualms about cooking the numbers. Make no mistake, if you think making Trump the gatekeeper of COVID-19 infection number and death statistics to edit at will, and under his "close aides" guidance, is a good idea then you would have also thought giving your children cyanide laced kool-aid in Jonestown was a revolutionary act.
See the following two stories. One from the Trump administration, and one account by a Jonestown survivor.

>Trump pushes and threatens in bid to fully reopen schools
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/trump-schools-cdc-pence/2020/07/08/8a52d400-c14b-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html
>Survivor: 'They Started with the Babies'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1978/11/21/survivor-they-started-with-the-babies/ec559372-be60-4355-a5fc-f5e306370992/

They started with the kids, because they knew adults would be more willing to drink cyanide laced kool-aid after forcing their children to drink it.
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Edward Cluffingkut - Wed, 15 Jul 2020 21:48:43 EST mSqeIz7v No.186443 Reply
Hehe the salty liberal tears will be EPIC!
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Rebecca Bunridge - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:55:02 EST XvBhi+Gt No.186456 Reply
>CDC in with WHO
>literally just shoveling money to Ethiopia for no reason

I'm glad they decided to actually keep track of this shit themselves, and after School was found hacking people they couldn't have started at a better time. This isn't about hiding any obvious data that would be easily available, this is about making sure the data is used properly. If you're worried about it just keep your eyes on the TV, they take any source above two hundred people pretty regularly
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Cult Survivor - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 02:40:20 EST 1UTS6pBa No.186459 Reply
>>186456
>keep track of this shit themselves
You misspelled review and edit it to provide numbers that help shed the profoundly shit-tier decisions Trump makes into a more electable light. Ya know, like attempting to force poor kids to school to catch the shit and give to their grandparents.
>after School was found hacking people
Oh Noes! They're going to hurt the pharmaceutical companies profit margins! They're trying to steal vaccine research that American companies will make unaffordable. Don't violate the NAPARINO!!!
>This isn't about hiding any obvious data that would be easily available
Uhm.. Ya it is, and basically this point is just stupid. The CDC is the channel in which health data is made public. Hospitals can't reveal patient health data or statistics. Even leaks aren't likely to happen on a massive scale. Patient data is confidential, and releasing it is a major violation of federal law. National health statistics are made public by the CDC, Department of Health and various government agencies all of which trump has an unprecedented amount of control over (this fucking guy expanded presidential authority ten-fold in 3 years).
>this is about making sure the data is used properly
Ya, like properly as in not revealing what house of horrors trump's coronavirus response is and trying to help his election odds.

Whatever, you don't care. Heil donald drumpf I suppose...
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Rebecca Bunridge - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:34:40 EST XvBhi+Gt No.186460 Reply
>>186459
Man I really hate taking someone seriously that uses so many retarded phrases, but here we go;
>edit
Why would they release any data themselves? They almost always reference outside sources, even if they're inclined to a Republican view they are still outside sources. When they want to inflate the economy, they always have a handful of people that are willing to blow smoke up their ass. Why the fuck would they need this bullshit to do it?
>noes
So I personally believe that hording data, resisting spies is a useless endeavor to start with. They, however, see a reason for it and Rus is clearly trying to get into the records of things. Even though they really are avoiding it for no real reason, they think they have one. The reason they would cite would be national security, I highly doubt the vaccine they'd likely give out for free (remember your 1200$?) is the reason.
>CDC is the only place to get data ever
Overall numbers are not personal data. There is no reason a hospital would legally be barred from releasing numbers of patients infected/recovered/dead. I can see how CBS has tricked you here but I'm sure you'll still be getting updated numbers on your news graphs.
>horror
So, what would Biden have done differently? Stopped you from protesting? lol
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Hannah Hindlefield - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 07:44:02 EST 95fSyme/ No.186463 Reply
>>186460
The only reason to go outside the chain of custody for epidemiology data here is to falsify it. There is literally no other motive that makes sense, and the more you know about how epidemiology data is collected and distributed, the less sense it makes. You will defend this to your literal grave because you're that much of a brainwashed fool.
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Isabella Brookbanks - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 13:10:10 EST fxZPTs+O No.186470 Reply
>>186460
>So, what would Biden have done differently?

I'd hope Biden would step the hell back, realize the circumstances don't call for a personal touch of leadership or pandering to his political base, and just let public health experts act autonomously to manage the crisis with him as a glorified spokesperson. If we're going to have a president, and there's strong reasons why we should actually prefer something like Switzerland's executive council, we should have one that knows how to delegate, and not try to turn the whole thing into a culture war while undermining technocrats who are trying to fulfil the popular objective of eliminating the coronavirus.

Unfortunately, because of consistent conservative misleadership, the goal of total elimination of the virus seems to be impossible to achieve, and now no one has any clue what the future holds. The Trump administration now would rather send in federal cops to harass and arrest two or three dozen anarchists in Portland rather than finally coordinate an effective federal level social tracing regime. It's absolutely fucking crazy. A fucking turkey sandwich would do a better job at governing than conservatives.
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Ebenezer Bardshit - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 13:19:03 EST GYsJBwcY No.186471 Reply
>>186456
>muh rusland is now an excuse for trumpites
lol what is this world coming to
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Edwin Diblingwill - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:37:08 EST GW1axdWk No.186473 Reply
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>>186460
>So, what would Biden have done differently?
He probably wouldn't have fought so hard with Democratic governors over getting PPE, he wouldn't be indulging as many conspiracy theory shit except for School, he wouldn't have encouraged people not to wear masks, and he wouldn't be egging people on Twitter to protest lockdown orders, but aside from that probably not much differently to be honest.

Biden is after all so far to the right that he's basically a Never-Trump Republican, and he's just as high on that Wall Street austerity shit as Trump is. So he would probably be just as reclucant to shut down the economy out of fear of hurting The Almighty Line. He's shown that this pandemic has not moved his opinion on universal healthcare at all, so he wouldn't be any help there. He would have been just as eager to bail out corporations billions of dollars while telling regular people to get bent. He would be generally just as reluctant to spend very much government money or make any fundamental economic changes except on behalf of corporations and Wall Street. He wouldn't implement any nationwide rent freezes or UBI.

In fact on the UBI thing, he probably wouldn't even gone as far as the $1,200 Trumpbucks. As small a gesture as that was, the only reason that Trump was willing to flirt so much with the dreaded socialism is because it gave him narcissistic pleasure to put his big dumb signature on all the checks, which is a very uniquely Trumpian impulse. So on that front Biden could possibly have been even worse.

He probably wouldn't have tried that dumb "Chinese flu" gambit, but he would likely be just as willing foist as much blame on China for his mistakes as Trump, or come up with some way to blame Schooln hackers.

I'd like to think he would be less likely to say stupid shit like the injecting bleach thing. But this is the same impulsive, hairy-legged genius who gave us Cornpop and dog-faced pony soldiers. So for all we know he would be just as likely to say stupid, belligerent, harebrained shit in front of cameras.

It's worth remembering that mainstream Democrat outlets such as Vox were just as dismissive of coronavirus early on, including advising against wearing masks. And Cuomo's abysmal handling in New York shows that mainstream neolib Democrats could be just as terrible at handling the crisis. So those would probably give a pretty good indication of how he would have handled it.

Overall, slightly less bad and outwardly dumb than Trump, but still a hellworld disaster by global standards. Probably somewhere around Johnson's UK, Cuomo's New York or Sweden. Still awful, only CNN and MSNBC wouldn't be calling him out for it.
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Albert Conkinpin - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:42:52 EST O/BUJHAn No.186474 Reply
>>186456
Hahaha USA is our weak bitch man we take what we want
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Ebenezer Pobberfuck - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 16:27:50 EST ClNMEJ6U No.186476 Reply
>>186470
>>186473
What he would likely do is bring the top stakeholders together and hash out a path forward that everyone can get behind, and then execute it. That's what Trump literally can't do. He is incapable of listening to experts and people with experience and synthesizing a path forward.
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Edwin Diblingwill - Fri, 17 Jul 2020 19:04:35 EST GW1axdWk No.186480 Reply
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>>186476
>bring the top stakeholders together and hash out a path forward that everyone can get behind
>the top stakeholders
No doubt about that.
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Oliver Fuckingshit - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 06:28:05 EST uofDbcG6 No.186486 Reply
>>186480
>politicians do politics
I guess you'd prefer cheeto and four more years of mask debate? What are you trying to say? If you're going to vomit bullshit to prove a point, make sure your bullshit doesn't apply quite this universally, otherwise you lose the moral argument by default.
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Thomas Cudgehut - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 11:16:15 EST GYsJBwcY No.186488 Reply
>>186486
FPTP voting is the biggest curse humanity has ever placed upon itself
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William Murdridge - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 12:13:31 EST GW1axdWk No.186491 Reply
>>186486
>if you criticize X, that must mean you prefer Y
That's it buddy, you cracked the code. Definitely not a baby-brained way of perceiving the world.
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Wesley Muffingbore - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 12:40:38 EST GeM3oy6j No.186493 Reply
>>186491
Then what's your point?

I mean, if you bring up an argument that applies to all politicians, that is, they take money from corporate swine, and apply it to only one person, it becomes obvious that you are using a dishonest argument. It's totally valid to ask you what your point is, and if that isn't it, what is it?
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William Murdridge - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 13:09:42 EST GW1axdWk No.186494 Reply
>>186493
>Then what's your point?
>apply it to only one person
Somebody asked how Biden would handle this.

I answered how Biden would answer this.

Biden is only one person.

How are you so confused by this?
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Wesley Muffingbore - Sat, 18 Jul 2020 14:42:12 EST GeM3oy6j No.186495 Reply
>>186494
>Biden would handle this by taking campaign donations
Ok, so would every other politician, so what's your point? You haven't made one. All I hear is, "politicians are crooked" which... I agree I guess? You win?
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Sidney Nellyhad - Sun, 19 Jul 2020 03:34:42 EST UQtdWsYB No.186499 Reply
>>186437
https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/02/27/health-secretary-alex-azar-refuses-to-guarantee-coronavirus-vaccine-would-be-affordable-for-all/

Biden I can pretty much assure that the 'possible' vaccine in as-much-time, would be available to the world market at little to no cost if US pharmaceuticals produced it. Likewise from other foreign pharmaceutical markets and governments would likely offer the methods to produce the vaccine at no cost.

Say if eli-lilly bayer, etc, is produced correctly, 15 billion if that's their price, so-be-it, no issue to purchase the patent to make available a generic of the original correct vaccine to other pharmaceutical corporations throughout the world..
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Sidney Nellyhad - Sun, 19 Jul 2020 04:58:57 EST UQtdWsYB No.186500 Reply
>>186499
The trummmp admin wants to have exclusive control over the vaccine. why. There is no gain except for $$. So that is not a president we need, democrat or republican. Republicans need to control themselves, their party. They made themselves be the worst they can possibly be.
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Esther Gozzlelitch - Sun, 19 Jul 2020 06:10:20 EST wgBFGFOW No.186501 Reply
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>>186460
For starters, I'm sure he wouldn't have gone to the same lengths to actively make this pandemic worse.

A dead rat would have handled this better than Trump.
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Simon Cradgespear - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 01:44:50 EST XvBhi+Gt No.186510 Reply
>>186506
Are you pissing yourself? Who cares?
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Simon Sebberbanks - Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:30:23 EST pjSfU+g+ No.186519 Reply
Aww shit, Chinabot is back
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Oliver Chullyben - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 01:46:53 EST S/ld5FwN No.187789 Reply
what the heck is JONESTOWN?
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Shit Furrymotch - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:29:29 EST knjnCura No.187793 Reply
>>187789
If you're American and your social studies class didn't teach you about the only serving US senator killed on foreign soil, get your money back. Or you've been drinking the kool-aid (although most of them were physically assaulted and / or shot, even babies were shot and almost all children were killed).
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HAIRYSHLONG(AKA MR FUG) - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:05:38 EST TNXHNqOm No.187807 Reply
>>187804
Everyone start using your fakenames so chinabot looks dumb as fuck. If you don't have a username then you're a china bot in my eyes.

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