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- Fri, 11 Sep 2020 23:42:08 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187551
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I'm at the very outside of one of the fires in the Pacific North West. Shits real bad, even though California gets all the press. Over a million acres burned in my state, with most fires barely or not at all contained (0% containment). It's amazing though how kind everyone is being to each other. Everyone is uberfucked and we're all doing what we can to help. It looks like Blade Runner 2049 though. Orange skies, deserted towns and ruined, dead landscapes (I hear someone on YouTube synched the BR 2049 soundtrack to some orange-sky footage, good for them). I was looking forward to a nice vacation with my telescope out in the desert but I'll be using my PTO to cover my the dealing with the fires. Yeah, this is local news, but all news is local until someone halfway around the world notices. National Guard just showed up to help, andeven though they doubled the number of people on the fire line, we still need three or four times that never to start to get a grip on things. One town about 15 miles from me was completely obliterated by fire. The good news is that the weather is expected to shift a bit and give everyone here a break from the smoke, and there might even be rain coming.

To make this obviously very provincial news more globally relevant, there's been a bunch of idiot Trumpets claiming the fires were started by antifa and also that antifa has been looting burned areas. Which is 100% bullshit, but hey, y'know, right?
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Shitting Clisslefick - Sat, 12 Sep 2020 03:07:15 EST QI2NbYB5 No.187553 Reply
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>>187551
>To make this obviously very provincial news more globally relevant, there's been a bunch of idiot Trumpets claiming the fires were started by antifa and also that antifa has been looting burned areas. Which is 100% bullshit, but hey, y'know, right?
We should encourage people who are afraid of antifascism to stay behind so Antifa can't break in and steal their collection of 10 dollar sunglasses and singing bass trophies.
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Hedda Fossleshit - Sat, 12 Sep 2020 04:11:20 EST Rb09iYiv No.187557 Reply
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Oooo... hell is a place on earth.
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Edwin Gagglestock - Sat, 12 Sep 2020 09:50:46 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.187561 Reply
Tbh, looking in from the other side of the Atlantic it's a bit hard to tell how bad things are. California et al seem to normally be on fire this time of the year.

>>187557
There's a place in Norway called Hell. I also know someone with that last name. They wanted to call their daughter My after Mumin but the combination would have been ridiculous in English.
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Doris Blinkingold - Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:14:17 EST wseR6U0m No.187562 Reply
If Trump can sign an Executive Order to ban bump stocks, then why can't he sign an Executive Order to reduce the debt, end the wars, restore the Bill of Rights, repeal Obamacare, arrest Clinton, free Assange, build a wall, drain the swamp, or end the trade wars?
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Doris Pittspear - Sun, 13 Sep 2020 17:46:32 EST 3G3XSb/4 No.187565 Reply
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>>187561

It's really extra bad this year.

3 of the 4 largest fires in California's history are currently burning. 2020's fires have already burned more than 20x the area burned in 2019, and we have several more months of fire season ahead of us.

Normally there is a large number of inmate firefighters that help fight these wildfires. Unfortunately prisons have been some of the institutions hardest hit by COVID, and many inmates are too sick to firefight.

There are plenty of moral dilemmas with using prisoners as firefighting labor, but we sure could use the help right now.
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Graham Nickleham - Sun, 13 Sep 2020 21:01:14 EST 3K5+3xWA No.187567 Reply
>>187565
damn, 2020, the year global warming coincided with a global pandemic and america's slave labor was too endangered to save the most populated state
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John Hickleshaw - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:47:59 EST HgfqROG4 No.187568 Reply
>>187565
>but we sure could use the help right now.
What did they tell you when you volunteered to help?
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Archie Clayville - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 05:59:32 EST dZDaQqJv No.187569 Reply
>>187568
What is the most logical course of action here? I agree people should volunteer to help and fill the gap in fire fighting manpower but where should we start?

I'm filling out a volunteer fire fighter form which will probably take weeks to process and I also have to get a driving abstract and copy of my high school diploma and go to 7 11 and get fake pee then go get drug tested. We'll all either be choked out by the smoke or burnt up by the time all the applications get processed.

Why aren't the patriots that want to "protect businesses" out there with super soakers standing their ground against the fire?
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Sidney Wannertadge - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:59:17 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.187575 Reply
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>>187565
You have my sympathy if nothing else. However having a reliance on "convict labor" sounds pretty dystopian.

Are there any long term plans to deal with this? While we don't rake our forests in Scandinavia we do practice forest management. We are however naturally soggy whereas California is naturally burning. Controlled burns throughout the year and not populating high risk areas might be an idea.
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Lillian Greenhall - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:17:14 EST Nrep+rW+ No.187576 Reply
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>>187551
I am in PNW, further from the fires tho, and a hazy fog has consumed the city for three days now. Our skys are mostly grey, I haven't seen the red sky effect, but I also haven't seen the sun in a week... my throat hurts and I've only gone outside thrice during this 'weather'.

I am saddened, because this shit is untenable. We will all become fat white worms hiding in our caves if this keeps up, unable to swim or run, choking as the poison infiltrates through the gaps in our walls. help
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Sidney Wannertadge - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:29:49 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.187579 Reply
>>187576
It should be possible to adapt as mankind has done so many times before (and with much less resources/technology). This will however require a change of behavior. Not continually making the problem worse would be a great place to start but there can be local solutions too. Rebuilding in the same spot and/or continuing the same policies might not be the best idea though.
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Betsy Packlehood - Mon, 14 Sep 2020 23:14:13 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187580 Reply
>>187575
Yeah, more aggressive fuels management is going to be key. First, manually reduce the amount of fuels on and near the ground, particularly the ladder fiels, and second, frequent controlled burns to reduce the density of annual undergrowth. The problem really is that for almost 100 years no fires were allowed to burn, causing a massive build up of fuels. Combined with increased human activity in heavily forested areas, it's inevitable that major fires will happen. This year was a strange one though because we had a major wind storm coming from the east, which is rare during the dry season. East winds are very dry because they're coming out of the desert. Atmospheric humidity was below 20% when most of the fires started. Westerly winds bring humidity levels of 80% usually.
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Rebecca Fambleput - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 03:02:26 EST nf+07DIU No.187581 Reply
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>>187576
now you realize why Treadmills and home exercise equipment is actually a good investment for your future bunker as the world ends and environments collapse.
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Fanny Fusslelane - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:04:33 EST lFbMFAeT No.187596 Reply
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>>187581
When you get older you realize that the promised apocalypse will not come in your lifetime and you must do the best you can with the world you have.
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Hedda Coffingpere - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 16:32:25 EST MigbfErk No.187599 Reply
>>187551
there's no evidence it's antifa starting the fires, but it's definitely a coordinated arson attack, too many people have been seen lighting the fires and they all happened too close in time for it to be just coincidences. IMO its chinese agents, not domestic political groups
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Fuck Bombleshaw - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:00:04 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.187600 Reply
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>>187580
>The problem really is that for almost 100 years no fires were allowed to burn, causing a massive build up of fuels.
Yeah that's probably not great. It would make controlled burns rather difficult too. Maybe start celebrating Valborg? It's a holiday over here when, traditionally, you burned the big pile of sticks and crap you'd scraped up over the year to welcome the spring (the Finns do it for Midsummer). These days it's mostly where kids get shitfaced for the first time and/or lose their virginity.
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David Duzzlemotch - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 18:49:22 EST fxZPTs+O No.187602 Reply
>>187599
It's probably just pyromaniacs. There are probably more pyromaniacs in the general population than we know of. It's also ridiculously easy to accidentally start fires when fuel load is high and conditions are dry.
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Jack Chadgenack - Tue, 15 Sep 2020 20:42:18 EST 3K5+3xWA No.187607 Reply
>>187601
i mean, that's how nature works though. bad things happen and good things happen as a result. not letting fires burn in a controlled fashion is like killing all the natural predators of a biome, it's morally right but that's not how shit works in reality, you're just making it worse in the end
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James Drinderville - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:25:30 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187608 Reply
>>187601
Wait, so you're saying that reduction of fuel loads isn't a major component of mitigating the risk of wildfires? Or are you just hurr-durrrr-ing? Did I say "rake the leaves," you fucking simp? The fires are burning in a majority evergreen forest, which is somewhat short on leaves, but you don't know that because you're a fucking simp.

Here's how fuel reduction works: first, you go in and selectively cut the undersized and overdense trees that ordinarily would have been weeded out by fire in a healthy forest. Then you limb up the larger trees to eliminate the path of travel for fire to reach the canopy. Then you burn all the small shit that's left on the ground.

Here's a tip, sport. Since you know jack and shit about forestry and forests, how about you go back to your regular past time of beating off to furry porn in your parent's basement, okay?
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James Drinderville - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 01:27:16 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187609 Reply
Shit. I fed the troll. My bad.
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James Blockleman - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:12:32 EST awBPHTJ/ No.187611 Reply
>>187607
>that's how nature works
>>187608
>so you're saying that reduction of fuel loads
You people are so easily convinced of bullshit I wonder if you ever went to school. Everything that's come out of Trump's mouth to date has been bullshit or a lie. Don't hang onto this.
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Jack Dirringstock - Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:33:01 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.187614 Reply
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>>187611
Trump's brainfart on raking the woods was probably a result of someone trying to explain forest management to him.


Kinda like when some unlucky general told him space was a battlefield...
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Thomas Furringkatch - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:23:26 EST yDNkyLP6 No.187618 Reply
You know how we fix this fire season?

Scandinavian viking style. Bad times happen because of a bad "king". Kill the king, bad times go away.

We sacrifice the "king" to the fire. Strap Trump to a pole right in the way of fire, and just let that lardass burn.
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Martin Blatherstone - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:20:42 EST QI2NbYB5 No.187621 Reply
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>>187618
Is this retroactive?
I mean the bush, Clinton, and Obama years weren't great, esp if you were an iraqi child.
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Shit Bullyfoot - Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:35:43 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187622 Reply
>>187599
Agreed man. I think it is Chinese DEW. SECDEF just announced known Chinese/Schooln space based DEW. There have been weather satellite images of IR beams directed into the fires
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Sidney Sarringshaw - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:53:13 EST AhvFjFWT No.187653 Reply
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I'm from Oregon and it was arsonists that have been starting a lot of the fires. People have found fire starting materials stashed on their lands. Arsonists have been caught in the act and even on video, some of them do have connections to antifa and the protests in Portland. 58 fires started in Washington have also been confirmed to be started by humans.
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Edwin Dartstock - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:34:18 EST QI2NbYB5 No.187655 Reply
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>>187653
Multiple lighters?
That image is more ridiculous than the time Portland Police claimed that an IED injured several of them, that turned out to be a Yankee candle, or all the claims that milkshakes were secretly filled with concrete, or pic related, when NYPD claimed multiple cops were poisoned and nearly died, when it turned out they just got the shits from eating too much fast food.

>some of them do have connections to antifa
Antifa isn't an organization, it refers to any group that has a tendency to take direct action against fascists.
If you fight fascists, you're antifascist.

>the protests in Portland
lol of course, because the people protesting in Portland could never be protesting against generations of police brutality and laws written to keep the working class weak and divided like they keep saying.
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Beatrice Summlemug - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:05:35 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187665 Reply
>>187653
I'd really like a source on any of that. I dont even think you're from Oregon. You're probably Schooln or Chinese. We know about those DEWs yo
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Barnaby Snodstock - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:42:53 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187666 Reply
I'm from Oregon too, and you're full of shit. Several fires have been determined to have been human caused, but none of them have any direct link to any political ideology. Here's a news article from Oregon's biggest newspaper (old tech is old).
>None of them have ties to left- or right-wing groups or appear to have been motivated by politics, according to police and court records
https://www.oregonlive.com/wildfires/2020/09/rash-of-oregon-arson-cases-fuel-fear-conspiracy-theories-during-devastating-wildfires.html
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Nell Greenhall - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 03:53:00 EST 97OtqNE/ No.187671 Reply
>>187666
it's the latest campaign of rightwing lies. everything I don't like is caused by antifa and them setting shit on fire also proves global warning has no effect or some other bullshit like that.
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Ernest Devingshaw - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:00:34 EST vJzt15Nj No.187674 Reply
>>187671
It leta them draw attention away and focus the argument away from the murders by fascists bootlickers and the odd WASP extremist. They make stuff up so we're debating that instead of how their position is not only bigoted and untenable but they're bad individuals as well.
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Hannah Saffingwill - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 08:24:37 EST GetU3kJC No.187688 Reply
>>187685
lol at some gawker retard calling the DEW theory "new". Unreal.
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Eugene Funkinkot - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:20:21 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187694 Reply
>>187685
How is that even closely related to QAnon? People have been talking about DEW before youtube even existed you idiot.

>>187687
Lmao obvious shill. Oh no you're right Americans setting their own country on fire makes so much more sense then unattributable foriegn agression in an time of economic and political instability. DEW aren't a trailer park meme anymore for the reason everything happens they are a legitimate military threat.

https://www.dutchsinse.com/9-16-2020-dept-of-defense-secretary-mark-esper-confirms-directed-energy-weapons-dew-in-space/
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Barnaby Fagglestock - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:25:00 EST jYaShtvh No.187695 Reply
>>187694
What makes even more sense is foreign nations using energy weapons to ignite fires AND using a decentralized social media-based misinformation network to blame it on american citizens.
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Ernest Sinkinford - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:30:17 EST o/c9EZfE No.187697 Reply
>>187607
Well. We've just about killed all the insects, give it another 30 years.
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Sophie Candlehad - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:21:01 EST 4scaaRdR No.187699 Reply
>>187694

i watched the youtube video that site uses as a source, the guy just stumbles through a teleprompter with an alabama drawl about why the space force and air force deserve a big budget, with vague threats to maintaining supremacy to nations that can compete with the us. he doesnt say "School and china have laser satellites" or anything like that.
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Nathaniel Pettingham - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 20:35:58 EST LtPvcl1n No.187701 Reply
>>187694
Nice media literacy bucko. Let me know how Ding Chaves is doing in that make believe Tom Clancy novel you are living in.
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Molly Brudgenutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 01:23:01 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187703 Reply
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>>187695
Pretty sure everyone got so comfortable in America they forgot that we're struggling to maintain international dominance and cant habeeb anybody but America would attack America.

>>187699
Uh yes he does? DEW = direct energy weapon

>>187701
Lmao Tom Clancy ain't got shit on me

Could anybody offer why this idea is in fact impossible? I dont think it has to be true the fires could be natural but if were going with the someone started them for the purposes of arson I'm sticking with foreign countries and unconventional methods or just people who want to watch the world burn, not brainwashed left vs right bullshit.
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Walter Pockforth - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 07:48:48 EST uvFBTWv6 No.187704 Reply
>>187703
>Could anybody offer why this idea is in fact impossible?
Anyone who passed high school knows why it's impossible. Energy conservation laws vs our ability to store it. Education makes you less susceptible to brainwashing of this kind. These things you believe aren't true.
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Fanny Nurrychatch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:29:49 EST p9Gb8a3r No.187705 Reply
Why would the Chineese be shooting space-lasers at California when it's so much cheaper to just pay some rando to set fire to a tree?
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Jarvis Mindledock - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:41:46 EST UKckgIU0 No.187707 Reply
China is no doubt using everything it can to fuck over over the USA so it can fill the power void that it creates if it collapses, but you would have to be a massive retard to think the DEW theory is in any way sensible. First of all like >>187705 said why the fuck would they use such a convoluted and expensive plan when it would be much MUCH simpler to just have some guy light a fire in a massively vegetated area. Another thing that isn't commonly known but something being in space is a lot easier to detect than something on ground not to mention it being a literal fucking laser which would be extremely obvious to detect. The energy needed to power a laser strong enough to fire from space to earth to light a fire would also cost a fuckload of energy (I don't have the specifics but you could easily google it if you wanted.) but not only would it be outrageously expensive but the laser/satellite itself would be fuckhueg enough to the point where any subterfuge would go out the window when you actually used the fucking thing and put it over orbit of the united states.
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William Fegglebury - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:08:24 EST hbaN6wDW No.187721 Reply
>>187703
>I dont think it has to be true the fires could be natural but if were going with the someone started them for the purposes of arson I'm sticking with foreign countries and unconventional methods or just people who want to watch the world burn, not brainwashed left vs right bullshit.
You really think that it's more plausible that evil foreigners (who are evil because they are foreigners, you see) are spending large sums of money to send secret agents across oceans and international borders to use cutting-edge energy weapons to start fires just to prank the white man or whatever, than some idiot simply driving a few hours and starting a fire?
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Doris Dabblewill - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 21:25:05 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187732 Reply
>>187704
oh my god you're an idiot. PROOF IS I PASSED HIGH SCHOOL AND I KNOW THATS WRONG.

>>187705
That's a solid argument.

>>187707
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power#:~:text=The%20collecting%20satellite%20would%20convert,microwave%20rectenna)%20on%20Earth's%20surface

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_power_transfer#Microwaves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_combustion

Brosef microwaves aren't magic and super powerful. IF you're stuck on the idea that a satellite couldn't hold enough power to make a dry patch of brush catch on fire then consider that the origin of the energy could be based on land or multiple satellites feeding the "mother ship". Like I said I don't think this IS what happened just something that really could happen.

>>187721
Uhhh I mean when did I say they were evil? Why would starting natural disasters in during a time of economic and political instability be a "prank" to you. Why are you even bringing race into this? Yeah I do think that is something ANY country would do if they wanted to increase destabilization to an enemy state.
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Jenny Chingerman - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 08:17:57 EST MUXCBEGt No.187736 Reply
>>187732
Does one really have to suggest foul play when a heavily wooded area with loads of dead plant matter catches fire when it is increasingly hot an dry in a region that periodically catches on fire though?

Several native plants need fire to reproduce and that can hardly be blamed on modern adversaries.
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Nigel Subberstone - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 08:57:30 EST s9aBob/v No.187738 Reply
>>187732
>I PASSED HIGH SCHOOL AND I BELIEVE THATS WRONG.
Well bud, facts don't really change based on your beliefs and unless you've got a sci-fi power source in your pocket that can draw power from another dimension on command, you have to store the energy somewhere and then ensure it reaches the surface of the earth from the cold deadly vacuum of space and be hot enough to light a candle by the time it gets all the way down here, with no recordable atmospheric effects, you're talking way, way, way beyond g5 reactors that only exist on paper in a boardroom in Marseilles.

So.... Since this is something big enough so that the average person can look up into the sky and see it, even in the daytime, like Death Star scale, and it's not there, I conclude it doesn't exist and YOU are a conspiracy peddler who is doing the government's work, for free or pay, doesn't matter. Stop sucking fascist dick. Get off Facebook and stop being a boomer.

High school: pass it. Thermodynamics: learn it. Fascist dick: stop sucking it.

There's your checklist.
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Jenny Chollybitch - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 09:59:01 EST 7Z1rYCE3 No.187741 Reply
So here's the scoop, gang. The fires in Oregon were the result of the confluence of a few factors, among them a: atmospheric humidity in the single digits, b: heavy fuel loads from a century of fire suppression, c: high winds, and most importantly d: labor day weekend when the woods were full of vacationing people who don't respect the dangerous potential of an open flame. A few firebugs have been caught intentionally starting fires but these were all contained quickly and we're, according to local cops and the FBI, not part of some plot to burn down the west coast.

So get this, the fires are just a shitty, shitty accident of circumstances. End of story. This thread should die.
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Doris Bemblehag - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 00:14:03 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187750 Reply
>>187738
Oh my god this guy thinks microwaves are hot and that if I think China wants to take advantage of a weakened U.S. position I must be a facist and then tells me to get off facebook. This just in microwaves arent hot. Thermodynamics dont mean shit to EMF. You think you're smart but you're really not. If you think you need a giant power source to transmit RF to the Earth I guess you should think GPSs are fucking magic then. Really your level of stupidity is astonishing. Let me teach you how a microwave oven works little guy and then you can imagine how they would work if you weren't warming a towel you were going to fuck.

>A microwave oven (commonly referred to as a microwave) is an electric oven that heats and cooks food by exposing it to electromagnetic radiation in the microwave frequency range.[1] This induces polar molecules in the food to rotate and produce thermal energy in a process known as dielectric heating.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven
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Hamilton Cammerson - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:25:43 EST 5fw28pXO No.187756 Reply
>>187750
>I don't need energy
You watch a lot of sci-fi, huh? Nobody mentioned heat, nobody mentioned microwaves. You must transmit enough energy from space to the earth to start a fire (any fire, make a spark even). Barring physical objects like asteroids, the only thing in this solar system capable of doing that is the sun. You would need a power source you could see with the naked eye from the ground. It would be galactic in scale. You suck at this.
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Doris Bemblehag - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:29:33 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187758 Reply
>>187756
Someone mentioned thermodynamics. That's really not true about the energy man. If anyone watches a lot of scifi it's you with your death star fetish. Check out wave propogation and read into satilite comms dude. If you applied the principles of satcom to let's say RF/Microwave heating it wouldnt really be a problem. Dude like for real I could spend some time looking up all the reasons why it is completely possible but just look at something like idk satilite TV or Satphones. Just apply that to let's say a dry patch of hay at a different frequency. It's not like it has to send a beam of fire down to Earth just a beam that would raise the temperature of something to the point of spontaneous combustion. You act like it sends a spark wave down to Earth in a burst. That is not true. Even if the energy required was anything like what you say it would be distributed slowly. You dont put your food in the microwave and press cook and your food is instantly hot. Dude like idk if you're just trolling but you seem to think RF requires a large amount of energy to generate a wave that could reach Earth and that it would have to instantaneously set a blaze. Dude I mean like a smoulder in an already fire primed environment. It's not a death ray but a RF beam that can cause molecular dipole rotation releasing heat. That heat can cause a fire that would rapidly spread in a dry environment that is already at risk to wildfires. Again ill just say that it is possible not that it IS what happened. Dosent even have to be a satilite. Could be a HF comms station and the HF could be bounced off the ionosphere. Really the point I'm trying to make is that fires can be started with RF and to say that's impossible shows you dont have the ability to understand how RF heats things. Fact of the matter is were working on asymmetrical warfare and conventional warfare with the big countries out there ain't gonna happen with MAD.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_heating#:~:text=Dielectric%20heating%2C%20also%20known%20as,radiation%20heats%20a%20dielectric%20material.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency
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James Wedgefield - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:37:27 EST sM0R7Ibu No.187759 Reply
>>187758
Listen close: you must have enough energy to start a fire by the time it gets to the planet. Anything that can cause combustion. Come on, man.
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Hedda Hazzlesatch - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:47:52 EST 5GFCHk94 No.187760 Reply
>>187758
You would lose so much energy just going through the atmosphere that by the time it hit the ground it would be too weak with current tech. If it was strong enough to reach the ground it would also be bright enough for EVERYONE IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE TO SEE WITH THE NAKED EYE
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James Wedgefield - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:56:29 EST sM0R7Ibu No.187761 Reply
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>>187760
No dude, you could do it with current tech.

And a battery the size of one of these.
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Shit Sobbergold - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:04:21 EST YKzHhcXE No.187762 Reply
>>187756
What about a parabolic dish attached to a robot arm? Or an array of dishes, similar to how cell towers use phased arrays to form directional beams?
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Basil Norrydere - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:33:38 EST aedDsx8g No.187764 Reply
That's not his point. No one denying the idea that Microwave beams exist. What you're saying is the Chinese have secretly entered into an alliance with House Atreides and have been given Sonic Tanks.
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Jarvis Misslekune - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:09:12 EST o/c9EZfE No.187765 Reply
>>187764
I'm a bit on the fence here.. With what musk is doing to offer high speed internet faster than even the most expensive cable lines lasers in space are obviously in existence. Lasers have indeed been weaponized on the ground. Tech. is usually much further in the future than we give credit but also it's not insane, so where does DARPA & it's Cinese equivalent really stand on the development of DEW's?

A big issue in my mind when it comes to space laser warfare & space weapons in general is just the sheer level of objects in space & how such weapons would avoid collisions without being in the database of Roscomos Nasa et al.
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Reuben Chizzlechack - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 05:01:57 EST YKzHhcXE No.187775 Reply
>>187765
Starlink is not faster than cable. Wireless is always slower. Also starlink is the work of thousands of people.Elon musk serves in a purely administrative capacity

And if we can figure out lasers, then we might be able to do wireless power transmission over the oceans which no joke would present a serious possibility of lastong global peace.
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Jarvis Misslekune - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:00:32 EST o/c9EZfE No.187776 Reply
>>187775
Idk shit. I should really stop posting like I do lol nb
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Ernest Billingworth - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 02:21:21 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187790 Reply
>>187775
Dude we can do wireless power transfer over the ocean it just isnt economic and never will be. Idk why everyone thinks microwaves have to be so gosh darned magical and high powered. They have the tech for satilite based solar power gathering but havent done so because too much energy is lost beaming ir to Earth for it to be economic. News flash weapons arent designed to be economic they're made to work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_power_transfer

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna
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John Sunnerford - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 02:29:29 EST jYaShtvh No.187791 Reply
>>187790
That's not the wireless power transfer I'm talking about. In our lab we're trying to use plasma waveguides to send large amounts of energy over long distances, primarily to power our remote field facilities.
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Shit Furrymotch - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:21:53 EST knjnCura No.187792 Reply
>>187790
Right, just get it through the atmosphere to the planet's surface and light a candle. Do it, if it's that easy.
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Ernest Billingworth - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 12:37:37 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187794 Reply
>>187792
Lmao okay hold on lemme just get my billions of dollars in tax money out right quick. Too bad I already used it to fuk ur mum with my R dik..

>>187791
Oh that's really cool. I'll have to look into that. I'm guessing the efficiency is much greater then converting RF into AC oscillations. Good shit man. I'm trying to get some lab work too once I leave my current job pretty sure I'll be a shoe in for entry level tech. Im trying to finish my education for an electrical engineering degree though. There is a really awesome DOE lab by my home town and I'd love to be able to contribute.
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Archie Dattingleck - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 12:55:05 EST W7b0UU9N No.187795 Reply
>>187794
>billions
Whoa buddy

That's piggy bank shit compared to what you need.
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Eliza Pibblesat - Sat, 26 Sep 2020 20:22:00 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187798 Reply
>>187795
You're right I'll just use "communist" labor slaves like china.
nb

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