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- Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:23:43 EST 4scaaRdR No.187635
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54214729

>US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, an iconic champion of women's rights, has died of cancer at the age of 87, the court has said.

Ginsburg was the oldest sitting justice on the Supreme Court, having served 27 years on the nation's highest court.

Get ready for Drumpf to appoint another rapist.
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Matilda Pankinham - Fri, 18 Sep 2020 22:18:21 EST zv6Y9w8Q No.187637 Reply
>>187635
Get ready for Supreme Court to validate any shenanigans by Trump in regards to "election fraud"
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Caroline Dartcocke - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 06:43:37 EST fywtJMap No.187641 Reply
>>187635
That awful old hag could have retired years ago, the way Kennedy did when he handed his seat to Trump, but no, these dessicated old ghouls only ever leave when it's least convenient for everyone else.

Now between her and Kennedy, that's two supposedly "good" judges who have handed Trump more power on a silver platter.
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Basil Sellerbury - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:08:40 EST brWaQaUc No.187642 Reply
Yeahhhh honestly fuck these fascist, backwards relics of antiquity holding onto power unchecked & unbeholden to any manner of justice not dictated by in many cases pedo oligarchs et. al
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Henry Billingson - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 09:12:48 EST w7c6q3ko No.187643 Reply
>>187641
Jesus christ are you always this anguished when you talk about politics?
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Basil Sellerbury - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:30:47 EST brWaQaUc No.187645 Reply
>>187644
Just butthurt how unelected officials can hold so much power for decades, are you of the opinion the supreme court has done well in its service to its people & the US ..?
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Henry Billingson - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:46:30 EST w7c6q3ko No.187647 Reply
>>187645
It has to be that way. If there were any process other than death to remove a Supreme Court Justice from office it would get used for political purposes. If you want to rewrite the constitution, I agree, but once a judge is on the bench, the lifetime appointment gives them the freedom to make apolitical choices.
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Edwin Dartstock - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:18:41 EST QI2NbYB5 No.187654 Reply
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>>187647
It always has been political. When FDR said he'd appoint more judges, did everyone just shrug and say "whatever, I'm sure those judges will be above politics just like all the other judges?"

RBG sucked anyway, now maybe we'll get the dems to embrace effective tactics such as:
Packing the courts with openly political judges
Adding more states with populations certain to vote left
Setting congressional rules in their favor instead of giving the opposition the tools to stop them with a minority that the opposition can simply remove the moment they're in power.
Not giving the opposition 50% allocation of a budget when you don't need their support to pass it.
Winning elections with overwhelmingly popular policies such as universal free healthcare, ending the wars, and legalizing pot


Surely the dems aren't planning to just throw their hands up and say there's nothing they can do for the next 40 years right?
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Simon Happerman - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:58:03 EST qPbFZDTy No.187656 Reply
I won't lionize her, she never met a millionaire she didn't want to turn into a billionaire, she never met a native she didn't want to fuck over.

But this bad, and Biden replacing her is only slightly worse.
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Henry Chubberhod - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:07:41 EST Vr0E+N13 No.187657 Reply
>>187654
What?

None of that's got anything to do with lifetime appointments, which are necessary.
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Emma Goffingstock - Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:13:10 EST S83p5ZjM No.187658 Reply
Ya'll ever read Assassination Politics?
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Basil Dartdock - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 00:03:43 EST UX8aMGro No.187667 Reply
>>187657
>lifetime appointments, which are necessary.
You have not yet established that
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Beatrice Benkinhit - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:03:53 EST 2F5Q/51p No.187675 Reply
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mfw
User is currently banned from all boards
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Barnaby Heckleridge - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:42:16 EST qPbFZDTy No.187677 Reply
>>187647
If the supreme court wasn't suppose to be a political instrument then they would expand the court so a president getting to replace 3 people over the course of their terms could change the course of the nation for decades.
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Samuel Clettingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:13:03 EST 4yVUfw14 No.187678 Reply
>>187677
>change the course of the nation
More or less. It's one branch of a three branch system.
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Basil Dartdock - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:36:45 EST UX8aMGro No.187679 Reply
>>187672
Simply saying "it has to be that way" means nothing.

The cloest thing to a reason you've given for why this just "has to be that way" is that lifetime terms somehow depoliticize Supreme Court appointments, which is ludicrous on its face. Most of Trump's term has been about how deeply politicized his Supreme Court picks are. Did you miss the fucking Kavanaugh hearings, or were you somehow under the impression that that was an apolitical event? Do you not remember how not letting Obama fill a seat became a fiercely partisan political issue during his second term? Are you unaware of how the Republicans have used the spectre of Supreme Court seats as a politicized GOTV strategy for fucking decades? Has the DNC not used the spectre of Ginsberg's death and replacement as their own GOTV strategy this cycle? Did you never cover FD fucking R in history class????

I did read the post that you linked, and that post is utterly retarded drivel.
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Samuel Clettingbanks - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 15:18:25 EST 4yVUfw14 No.187680 Reply
>>187679
>depoliticize Supreme Court appointments
I didn't assert that. It's what happens after they're appointed that's important. Judges are even elected in partisan elections in some cases. The purpose of a constitutional court is to interpret the constitution which they can't do if they can be removed from the court for any reason other than death, high crimes, or retirement. The nomination process is obviously political and designed to be a political process. It has nothing to do with lifetime appointments.
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Archie Wommerkock - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:59:18 EST YgsVtPbb No.187681 Reply
>>187678
An abused, battered & broken system at that

Everything peachy? America's pretty great right? come on now
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Simon Wuffingtire - Sun, 20 Sep 2020 20:46:01 EST UX8aMGro No.187683 Reply
>>187680
>The purpose of a constitutional court is to interpret the constitution which they can't do if they can be removed from the court for any reason other than death, high crimes, or retirement
Why exactly would a regular fixed term length prevent that?

Be specific, don't just say "it has to be that way". What the exact mechanism that prevents fixed-term judges from rendering legal decisions, and why exactly doesn't this mechanism manifest itself in any other government or legal job?
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Beatrice Femmlecocke - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:58:45 EST ZbKQHcFk No.187689 Reply
>>187683
>Why exactly would a regular fixed term length prevent that?
It would be predictable and therefore exploitable for political purposes whereas death is not. Other judicial appointments have term limits.

Did you go to high school? These are common arguments that were posited at the foundation of the country.
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Hannah Fuckinggold - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:24:20 EST OmGRyV+X No.187690 Reply
>>187689
>These are common arguments that were posited at the foundation of the country.
So was the idea that black people are 3/5ths of a person.

That is not a convincing argument.
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Polly Breffingten - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:10:46 EST phBvcVkA No.187691 Reply
>>187690
Read
>>187647
>If you want to rewrite the constitution, I agree, but once a judge is on the bench, the lifetime appointment gives them the freedom to make apolitical choices.
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John Benderchare - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 16:51:19 EST CdLczYP4 No.187692 Reply
>>187691
You can keep repeating that all you want, that doesn't make it true.

Supreme Court judges obviously make political choices, and their appointments are obviously politically motivated. That is the whole point of these big battles, because of the obvious political significance of a political executive appointing a political position to make politically motivated decisions.

If Supreme Court judges aren't there to make political decisions, then why would anyone care about whether or not Obama or Trump appoints them?

You're trying to pull some 2 + 2 = 5 shit and nobody here is gonna fall for it.
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Polly Breffingten - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:35:53 EST phBvcVkA No.187693 Reply
>>187692
So the answer is no, you haven't been through senior government yet.
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Rebecca Nanningwill - Mon, 21 Sep 2020 20:09:36 EST mk4oSebN No.187700 Reply
>>187691
>>187647
Today I learned that reproductive rights, labour rights, voting rights, interstate commerce, freaking slavery, etc. are all "apolitical" topics.
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Walter Pockforth - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:31:49 EST uvFBTWv6 No.187706 Reply
>>187700
Yeah that was pretty much a list of human rights issues plus interstate commerce, which exists regardless of what system we've got. Yes, today you learned that just because politicians whip you up about social issues doesn't make them political issues, they are social issues. You can't tell the difference I guess, but there it is.
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Jack Fandale - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 09:24:02 EST Gsr3NLKU No.187711 Reply
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>>187706
Everyone been radicalized- people used to not date/fuck/marry along racial/religious/sport fans/etc lines and now politics have subsumed the calculation.
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Rebecca Nanningwill - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:00:59 EST mk4oSebN No.187712 Reply
>>187706
>voting rights aren't political issues
damn you chuds never fail to impress
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Simon Narringbot - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:17:04 EST CdLczYP4 No.187713 Reply
>>187689
>It would be predictable
As opposed to how it is now, where it's definitely not extremely predictable whether or not the conservative-appointed conservative who was appointed to do conservative things will decide conservatively or not.

I suppose if you have a special kind of terminal brain damage, the current order of things isn't predictable to you.

But maybe, just maybe, the system shouldn't be built around whether or not the most retarded guy on 420chan can figure out if Scalia is gonna rule conservatively or not. Maybe.
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:26:55 EST hGM+ptvo No.187714 Reply
>>187712
Voting is a human right independent of politics, bud.
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:29:51 EST hGM+ptvo No.187715 Reply
>>187713
>judges are driven by their values
Yes
>decisions of conservative judges are driven by conservative values
Go on
>this is politics
Goddam we were doing so good. Lifetime appointments are so the judges aren't swayed by politics, not do they don't have values.
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Rebecca Nanningwill - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:30:17 EST mk4oSebN No.187716 Reply
>>187714
Is this one of those alternative facts you Trumptards are so fond of?
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Simon Narringbot - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:37:37 EST CdLczYP4 No.187717 Reply
>>187715
You're doing a great job of illustrating how there I no good reasoning behind this.

If you seriously have to resort to pretending "politics ≠ politics", then you really should just give up, but if you must continue to reveal just how retarded your position us by trying anyway then go right ahead.
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Eliza Blessleham - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:46:06 EST ivsOLkQv No.187718 Reply
Just to illustrate how stupid the pro-lifetime appointment side is.

They apparently believe that the following topics aren't political:
-partisan gerrymandering
-first amendment
-the criminal justice system
-separation of church and state
-antitrust law
-Native American treaties
-collective bargaining rules
-Trump's travel ban ( not political!!!)
-digital privacy
-taxes
-LGBTQ issues
-workplace regulation
-immigration
-segregation
-gay marriage
-whether or not you can vote for a politician to do politics

None of these are political, in the minds of lifetime appointment advocates. *That* is the level of stupidity one needs to take their side.

Amazing.
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:00:51 EST hGM+ptvo No.187719 Reply
>>187717
>no man, everything is politics and you're a fucking idiot for thinking otherwise
Lord.
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:04:38 EST hGM+ptvo No.187720 Reply
>>187718
>lists a bunch of human rights related issues
>"you're a whole new level of stupid if you think these things aren't politics"
The constitutional court decides if the constitution is being followed for these human rights related issues....do you not know what a Supreme Court does and why that's different from other courts?
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William Fegglebury - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:09:45 EST hbaN6wDW No.187722 Reply
>>187719
>>187720
Just want to let you know that you look really really dumb.

Politics are politics and I seriously doubt that you're going to trik anyone into thinking otherwise, dumbass.
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Eliza Blessleham - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:12:07 EST ivsOLkQv No.187723 Reply
>>187720
You're a whole new level of stupid if you think political issues are apolitical.
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Clara Grimman - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:18:01 EST BVz6yLkS No.187724 Reply
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>>187720
>The [political body] decides if the [political document] is being followed for these [political issues]
>tHiS iS ApOlItIcAl
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:38:53 EST hGM+ptvo No.187727 Reply
>>187722
>>187723
>>187724
>EVERYTHING IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS POLITICS AND YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON FOR BELIEVING OTHERWISE
Are there any honest posters left here?
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Wesley Nacklestutch - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:50:11 EST hGM+ptvo No.187728 Reply
>>187716
>voting is not a human right, Trumptard
Missed this one.

You people are so fucking transparent.
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Clara Grimman - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 12:55:11 EST BVz6yLkS No.187729 Reply
>>187728
Human rights are political, Trumptard.

You should know this since taking away other people's human rights is one of the primary political issues motivating people like you to vote for politicians like your daddy.
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Ernest Bishshit - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:16:43 EST s9aBob/v No.187730 Reply
>>187729
>Human rights are political
If you don't think human rights exist independent of politics then you're not my comrade and I've never met a leftie who would fuck with you.
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Charles Brookfuck - Tue, 22 Sep 2020 19:23:41 EST 4scaaRdR No.187731 Reply
lol i bet you guys could reach some form of agreement or dialogue if you werent so fuckin mad
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Nathaniel Wenkinhig - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 07:14:01 EST hbaN6wDW No.187734 Reply
>>187730
If you're referencing any kind of source or theory or definition that says that, leftist or otherwise, then go ahead and tell us where you're getting that from.

Until you do, I'm going to assume that you pulled this idea that 'voting et al. isn't political' out of your ass and are just repeating it with no backing in order to justify a system that gave Trump 3 different court appointments in only 1 term.
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Nigel Subberstone - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 08:20:18 EST s9aBob/v No.187737 Reply
>>187734
Listen bud if you want to blow up the system with me let's go, I've been in riots and shit, I know how to handle myself in a gas cloud with shit flying around everywhere in the dark, lit up by firelight and helicopter searchlights. But this is the system we have. Want to be my comrade? Stop anguishing over how unfair the system is and at least make an effort to try to be successful in it. Or be successful tearing it down, once again I'll even help. But your aggressive ignorance is a bad showing of who you are as a person, not to mention your politics.
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Walter Bunbanks - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 17:50:51 EST TUEAVm+o No.187743 Reply
At this point I'm starting to wonder, why isn't anybody in America willing to just, ugh go ahead and just kill the turtle? There must be enough radical autists around who would be willing to do the cost benefit analysis here and get close.
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Doris Tootson - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 00:23:56 EST X8pHRLwZ No.187751 Reply
McConnell isn't a turtle. He's pudding. 170lbs of pure pudding.
The best thing for the Democrats is to get this court appointment fiasco over with as quick as possible. The sooner they get this shit our of the news cycle, the less opportunity there is to rile up conservative voters over "save da unborns!" schlock. Then they can use the new justice to rile up liberal voters over "down wit facists!" schlock and take control of the senate and white house in the next election, giving them the power to really put a hurt on fuckface McConnell and his lying double standard shitbag pals. Of course the Democrats will just be grinding to dust the already shattered pieces of our former democracy (long gone, sad to say), but yeah, strategy. Quit whining about Mitch fucking you and just steal his house keys while he puts it in your unwilling pooper.
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Hamilton Cammerson - Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:30:15 EST 5fw28pXO No.187754 Reply
>>187751
It's way past that lol if there's still an America in January let's talk about fixing it.
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Emma Bardlock - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:19:18 EST 23mwZvl9 No.187783 Reply
US Constitution fact time: article III says there will be a supreme court and there will be inferior courts and these courts have control over all cases law and equity. Nothing about the actual structure of the courts. All that was made up by congress. The supreme court could be expanded to as many members with whatever criteria congress decides. Congress can even dismiss all the court members if it so chooses.

There's basically no rules when it comes to SCOTUS other than you can't cut their pay during their tenure.

Not that Schumer or Pelosi have any spine or will to do anything remotely like this. They'll cry hypocrisy as McConnel does a SCOTUS appointment speed run and then say "well I guess y'all should've voted and donated more".
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Oliver Chullyben - Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:38:18 EST S/ld5FwN No.187787 Reply
USA getting more chaotic everyday
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Rebecca Trotshaw - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:16:28 EST qPbFZDTy No.187805 Reply
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When the Supreme court stole the election for Bush Jr, instead of fighting it, Al Gore decided it was better to uphold the illusion of American democracy instead actually having an American democracy.

This how the Democratic Party operates. Barrett will be confirmed, and win lose or draw Trump will see a second term.
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Isabella Callywuck - Sat, 03 Oct 2020 03:59:49 EST Rb09iYiv No.187922 Reply
Who is replacing RBG?
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wannabuysomeportfolio - Sun, 04 Oct 2020 00:03:50 EST 3VAWpaGG No.187929 Reply
>>187922
some cunt from 7th circuit who doesn't believe in abortion most likely
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Archie Nevingdale - Sun, 04 Oct 2020 08:07:09 EST QI2NbYB5 No.187942 Reply
>>187937
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