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Study identifies factory farming as a key cause for pandemics

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- Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:51:14 EST jcO/qaUS No.188164
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-factory-farming-animal-diet-meat-plant-based-humane-society-b813899.html
>Countries’ leaders should speed up action to shift people’s diets towards more plant-based foods to reduce the risks of future pandemics breaking out, according to a new report by campaigners.

>Global intensive animal farming, in which thousands of animals are kept in close proximity, causing high stress levels, is the perfect breeding ground for more novel viruses to emerge, says the white paper by Humane Society International.

>The document identifies five key “pandemic risks” created by factory farming that it says create a “petri dish” for pathogens to erupt, mutate and spread:
  • confining vast numbers of stressed animals indoors creates novel viral strains because their immune systems are weakened so they succumb to viruses easily
  • expanding farms into previously wild areas brings wild and domestic species together, allowing diseases to jump
  • concentrating animal farms in an area increases the risk of pathogens spreading
  • the global live animal trade, in which huge numbers of live animals are transported globally, allows viruses to travel
  • agricultural fairs and auctions and live animal markets where the public get close to species from different places, let viruses proliferate.

>UN experts have previously said that industrial animal farming has caused most new infectious diseases in humans in the past decade – and risks starting new pandemics.

>In addition, some of the world’s leading scientists , from the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES), have warned that future pandemics are likely to be more frequent, spread more rapidly and kill more people if humanity fails to transform how it is damaging the environment and exploiting wildlife.

>Outbreaks of dangerous new diseases with the potential to become pandemics are on the rise, having become four times as frequent in the past half-century.

>A survey has found that almost half of Britons who eat meat feel hypocritical for loving animals while eating others.

>When asked how strongly they agree with the statement “it’s hypocritical that we eat some animals, such as pigs, while loving others, such as dogs, and keeping them as pets”, 47.8 per cent of respondents either slightly or strongly agreed.
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Priscilla Clattingson - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 12:34:33 EST 3p7pUauS No.188166 Reply
Doesn't seem worth it to eat meat.
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Polly Sablingperk - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:13:12 EST 3VAWpaGG No.188170 Reply
>>188166
I'm not 100% covid came from this specifically, but when comparing McDonald's to the cheddar broccoli stew I made earlier I'd prefer the latter (yes I understand it had cheese but imo it's the lesser evil compared to meat)
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Shit Diffingched - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:01:23 EST cEAL/Bok No.188193 Reply
>>188166
Yeah I'm certainly no vegetarian hippy or nothing but I'm quickly coming around to the idea that as a society we should probably move beyond this while meat thing.
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Thomas Greenwell - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:06:57 EST pRZJAvRJ No.188197 Reply
>>188193
Being vegetarian hasn't been associated with hippies for at least a generation, boomer.
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Angus Dollerheck - Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:37:40 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.188326 Reply
Or one could just treat livestock humanely and not continuously feed them antibiotics. Your steak will cost more but that's only because you're paying the true price.
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Wesley Ficklesotch - Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:11:21 EST 95fSyme/ No.188329 Reply
>>188326
That would increase the price of beef beyond what Americans want to pay. The profit is so razor thin on meat they declared meat packers to be essential workers and forced them to work, as opposed to doing what you're supposed to do under capitalism, negotiate and raise your price until you get people to consent to do it. It's tyrannical to force workers to work for these reasons and not give them any power at all to negotiate the wage. It's just abuse.
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Angus Dollerheck - Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:32:49 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.188330 Reply
>>188329
Why should meat eaters (and I am one) be allowed to externalize/socialize the consequences of their choice? Set proper hygiene and animal rights laws and the market can sort out the rest. Id argue that steak is artificially cheap even in scandinavia - never mind the USA.
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Clara Blacklenick - Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:33:39 EST vJzt15Nj No.188336 Reply
>>188330
The externalities of beef are the worst of all too. The carbon dioxide produced for a quantity of beef is about twice as high as the next worst type of meat and that's lamb which at least can be raised on moorland and left to graze pretty much anywhere as long as the density is relatively low. Beef farming and feeding it is killing forests. Chicken produces less than 1/10 of the carbon dioxide per kilo by comparison.

>>188333
Except a lot of the world barely eats any meat. The externalities are proportional to amounts consumed so when you destroy the amazon and ruin the entire world that burden is taken up by everyone. It's a cost of production that people who cannot afford meat are made to eat. So even if most people are meat eaters we're utting a big burden on people who can't even get amino balanced grain diets.

Everything we do has consequences but this one does seem a bit unfair. China feeds its cattle antiobiotics per routine which is one of the major accelerants of antibiotic resistance right now. Another externality the most vulnerable pay for but everyone will suffer.

I eat meat but I'm starting to change that. Currently experimenting with meat substitutes and protein sources to find which work for me and how I can fit them into my diet. Just doing that has cut my ongoing meat consumption 10% ish. Though I should add that I swapped the one pack of beef I ate for chicken about a year ago when I realised that was 65% of my CO2 from meat consumption in one move. If the government will not do it's job as a government and ensure externalities are internalised (but instead do the opposite) then we have to take matters into our own terms and just abandon that market. I guess I am starting to see why vegans are often so proud and edgy, if money rules all if you reject goods that lobbyists call for subsidies on you're rebelling against the government in a way which hurts far more than just protesting or voting (because as a UK citizen my "democracy" disenfranchises me in the same way as the US one does).
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Fuck Crorringbatch - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:10:50 EST 4G9BeMMW No.188352 Reply
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>>188336
Any corrections involves tackling immigrants which even trump defends the abuses. Pic related was first pardon- a kosher meatpacker exploiting browns
Not even pol but there's no flattering images of thr man and kosher/halal slaughter is especially barbaric and has not been eliminated with March of technology.
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Phyllis Pittgold - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:32:23 EST 7H2L0rIA No.188353 Reply
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>>188352
>not even /pol/
>but here's an extreme minority of a certain religion that /pol/ is obsessed with
>so we'll hold him up as an example
>this is not antisemitism and to suggest that it is offends me to my absolute core psychology
When you're done with the childish nazi larp, there are actual folks with actual power that you can spend your resources denigrating...
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Fuck Crorringbatch - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 10:15:19 EST 4G9BeMMW No.188354 Reply
>>188353
H2b Immigrants visa are responsible for cheap meat in this country. He's one person to get jail time over the scandals.
Also failed to address kosher halal slaughter.
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Phineas Pucklefuck - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 11:40:39 EST axknHCMT No.188355 Reply
>>188354
>blame the immigrants
>blame the jews
Everyone but the guy who looks like you, huh? He is of no benefit to you for that reason or any other. If you want to work together to promote a vegan lifestyle, then let's do it. It would solve your problem with the kosher slaughter and solve my problem with forcing poor people to work during a plague with no negotiating power. When can we start?
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Fuck Crorringbatch - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:47:11 EST 4G9BeMMW No.188356 Reply
>>188355
>Blame the consumers and not corporate admins and practices
Victim blaming meat eaters is a deal breaker
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Lydia Drevingfuck - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:55:47 EST ncmbtEn1 No.188357 Reply
>>188356
So you won't blame the senators, you won't blame Tyson, and you won't help people make better choices to not use the service, but you'll identify Jewish people and immigrants?

Who does this worldview make sense to?
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Fuck Crorringbatch - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:10:47 EST 4G9BeMMW No.188358 Reply
>>188357
Unironically no fatass american or the dozen of countries accepting our imports wants this shit. These poultry firms already got in trouble for collusion and price fixing. No ones simping for agribusiness here- we're also not shaming the proles having access to barbeque.
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Lydia Drevingfuck - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:23:04 EST ncmbtEn1 No.188359 Reply
>>188358
I know you don't really give a shit about the issue, you're just using it to flog the dead antisemitism horse with anti-immigrant sauce. You don't need to sit and explain it more.
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Fuck Crorringbatch - Thu, 29 Oct 2020 13:34:51 EST 4G9BeMMW No.188360 Reply
>>188359
Tucker and cenk discussed this exact meme. Doing jobs americans don't want to do *
*At the wage management is happy with
Or even consumers, this is greenwash austerity
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Phoebe Pollysig - Fri, 30 Oct 2020 11:30:57 EST MWSVEHQ+ No.188372 Reply
>>188355
>Let's make tendies costly that'll show the CHUDs
Did not think this through
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Emma Grimshit - Sat, 31 Oct 2020 20:44:36 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.188397 Reply
>>188336
That kinda depends as you point out with lamb. Not all land can be usefully farmed so grazing there doesn't reduce the yeild that much. Iirc it goes: fish > chicken > pork > beef when it comes to the mass of food you need to put into the animal compared to what you get out.

>>188358
>proles having access to barbeque.
Victory Gin remains plentiful of course.
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Esther Daffingway - Sun, 01 Nov 2020 06:35:06 EST +Tbo2Pi3 No.188401 Reply
>>188397
If cows were pasture grazed it wouldn't be such an issue. American cows eat corn and if you can grow food for animals you can grow food for people.
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Ebenezer Hushdure - Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:51:14 EST DmA07WUm No.188406 Reply
>>188401
I always found that weird. Cows aren't supposed to eat corn, they eat grass. Eating corn isn't good for them.
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Esther Daffingway - Sun, 01 Nov 2020 17:06:25 EST +Tbo2Pi3 No.188411 Reply
>>188406
American beef tastes like shit as a result, there's no flavor.
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Alice Fangerdock - Wed, 04 Nov 2020 08:43:26 EST T0sZOKNV No.188458 Reply
cow has the prerequisites to hold a person coming down from space on a trajectory and time where it didn't have a chance for anything else.
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Priscilla Gonderstidging - Fri, 06 Nov 2020 09:46:49 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.188471 Reply
>>188411
I vaguely remember it tasting slightly different but it was a long time since I was last in the USA. American milk I do remember disliking however. In general it would be good if Washington stopped subsidizing corn, why do they anyway? You can subsidize farmers without subsidizing specific products. EU agri-policy is hardly ideal but we have at least gotten rid of most of the wine-lakes and butter-mountains.
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Lillian Fiblingville - Fri, 06 Nov 2020 09:48:38 EST zFpeCczu No.188472 Reply
>>188471
You really don't understand agricture subsidies? And milk tastes different depending on what the cow eats. You don't know much about this, huh?
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Ernest Grimson - Fri, 06 Nov 2020 09:50:05 EST GetU3kJC No.188473 Reply
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>>188472
Hotbox a roomful of cows for their entire life make some cannamilk
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Priscilla Gonderstidging - Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:13:27 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.188476 Reply
>>188472
Also varying levels of pus...

Please feel free to explain what you think I got wrong about subsidies btw. I'm willing to learn.
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Isabella Weshman - Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:17:35 EST yH7VoAKP No.189093 Reply
>>188573
Fuck you, I'm now going to add 12 extra ounces of meat to my already carnivore diet.
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Ernest Murdway - Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:29:28 EST 7Sw+CWaZ No.189098 Reply
>>188573
The problem is rather how it's produced. People need to pay the real cost of sustainable and ethical food at the point of purchase. Vast fields of mono-culture franken-wheat aren't exactly much better. We don't need to all become subsistence farmers to solve problems caused by corporate short-termism.

Since it's not sustainable it'll inevitably end/change and some of it reasonably soon by the looks of things. However I don't think fear over a virus necessarily translates into concern about overuse of antibiotics. So that is likely to continue until large amounts of richer people start dying to resistant bacteria. At which point legislation will be enacted to make it unprofitable even for most criminals.
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Isabella Pudgekeck - Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:45:27 EST 3NhXy5SB No.189204 Reply
>>189117
That actually does nothing to address factory farming retard
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Cyril Fepperhall - Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:19:28 EST DBhh/G26 No.189205 Reply
>>189117
stop voting rightwing clowns who get rid off food regulations.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Angus Crengerham - Sun, 17 Jan 2021 16:57:10 EST 54+gHqcR No.189237 Reply
>>189212

oh and they're all paid for and encouraged to do the opposite.

CDC creates germ warfare
EPA cuts down the most trees
FAA creates delays, bailouts, and approves dodgy aircraft
SEC makes the loopholes for the markets to continue gambling with your retirement
Gestapo is paid to kill you and make you afraid
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Esther Bummerfuck - Sun, 17 Jan 2021 18:37:40 EST SvrvYzOs No.189238 Reply
We'll all be living in caves after everything is outlawed, but then you can be sure that living in caves will soon be banned in order to protect endangered bats.
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Reuben Cheggleson - Fri, 08 Apr 2022 00:33:53 EST 0CVxH507 No.190916 Reply
Americans think that Nazis are opposed to government control.
User is currently banned from all boards
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Graham Sesslewater - Mon, 02 May 2022 18:09:34 EST zDQuXgrL No.190951 Reply
Americans say welfare doesn't increase the debt or cause inflation at all.
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Cyril Clavingville - Wed, 04 May 2022 16:08:57 EST H7JpPlbe No.190954 Reply
>>190951
Agreed, Amazon, Google and Disney should control the US government
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George Sondleback - Wed, 04 May 2022 20:56:49 EST 0HwVUcbK No.190955 Reply
You are alive today. This is something.

You may be able today to go to a cafe and eat outdoors, but don't let your guard down. Tomorrow will be worse.

Americans must be totally obsessed with freedom now.

Every conversation, thought, and action must be spent looking for loopholes, resisting, and prepping.

The elites want to kill you.

How could care you about anything else?
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Charles Gurringpadging - Fri, 06 May 2022 05:51:33 EST +ApIMXic No.190962 Reply
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I don't think the animals being stressed is what causes the viruses. Even free range animals, who are way less stressed, would cause these problems. I don't think the camels that started.. was it MERS? I forget which one was camels.. I don't think they were being battery farmed. It's animal husbandry that's the problem. Obviously battery farms are even higher risk because it all happens faster

Honestly guys, chickpeas and lentils have loads of protein and they are cheaper than meat.

Save money, reduce the emissions you are responsible for, give less money to industries that are starting pandemics, improve your health, just have chickpeas or lentils instead of meat a few meals a week

>>190955


If Americans were remotely interested in freedom they wouldn't be overturning Roe v Wade
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Jarvis Sindleshaw - Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:58:52 EST Z7X4gXV5 No.190997 Reply
If you love freedom, you might wonder if you should spend your life savings to fight for freedom.

You might wonder if your effort would do any good.

You might ask yourself if Americans deserve to be saved.

You might wonder if surrender is the only answer to tyranny.

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