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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated March 20)
Non-shilling Exotic Street Food Thread by Paul Thalamas - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:09:28 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.156593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That shitty shill thread kinda made me sad because I'm super interested in the subject matter but the context of the thread kinda killed the vibe, but I think we should still talk about it.

I've always wanted to travel to some asian country like Korea, China, Japan or maybe even Thailand and check out some of the crazy foods you can get at street vendors. You can even find some really awesome and crazy (by American standards) just to the South of the border in Mexico and South America. I'd be very happy to try some crazy spicy fried grasshoppers or some other strange delicacies that people here in the US turn their nose up at.

Does anyone have any experience with street vendors in what Westerners would consider exotic places? What kind of advice would you give to a newbie in general or location specific? I'd love to hear about it. It doesn't have to be something strange, just any street vendor stories would be cool.
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Georges Blanc - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:19:34 EST ID:GIG8Nmo4 No.156594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
in a lot of chinese cities they have little stalls that sell grilled meat. they have plates of raw meat that you choose from, they put it on a stick, season it, and grill it. i tried beef, chicken, and ostrich. all tasty.
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Alain Passard - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:44:21 EST ID:gTiESYMJ No.156601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156594
Is the whole "gutter oil' thing a myth, or is it really a problem there?
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Marcel Boulestin - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:58:27 EST ID:zj+yT2V9 No.156608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156601
Gutter oil? If that like, oil that people skim off of water in the gutters?

I really hope so because that's being frugal as fuck.
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Thomas Edwards - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:42:03 EST ID:jG+fZbUn No.156610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156594
Ah yeah, we call those Meat on a Stick places, up north does it much better with higher quality lamb and beef. But south does good street bbq too.

>>156601
>>156608
So China is a big and scary place, but it's not nearly as scary as you might think. So gutter oil is totally not a myth, but the government did crack down on it REAL hard and I think executed people who were involved with it.

The documentary on the subject is by radio free asia, and if you spend any time looking into that it's pretty clear that it's a pro-american propaganda that's funded by some kind of senate gig, IDK you can find out. It's something that none of my friends in China had heard about and it was also happening in Taiwan, which is looked at as being closer to Japan and Korea than China, with much stricter food safety laws and stuff.

Food in general is taking much more seriously in China than it ever was in the UK (my homeland). The standard greeting is 'have you eaten' and the measure word for family members is 口 which means mouth, as in mouths to feed. Obviously you're gonna encounter crooks but I think China generally has a real pride in it's cuisine, and the guys doing this gutter oil stuff will be desperately poor criminals, rather than the accepted norm.

If mainland china wants to do shit then they can get it done, and I think gutter oil harmed the international reputation of them and made them look bad, so they came down on it hard with executions and shit.

I've been living here for a year now and could talk about the food for days. Best chinese food i've had so far is probably dry hot pot, other than that Korean BBQ stuff is great and food from Xinjiang (the troubled 'bad' muslim part of china) is insanely good, roast lamb ribs are probably the tastiest thing I've had in China. There's also red braised pork which is just insanely good to eat.

Interestingly aubergine/eggplant was pretty much one of the only things I would refuse to eat back in the UK, but here they cook them so differently and it's amazing. Mushrooms as well, the UK was hopeless with those ingredients but China does magic with them.

Strangest meat I've had has probably either been frog or donkey, lots of intestines (taste terrible, lots of effort for no reward, just chewy nothingness), brains, blood, hooves and chicken feet.
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Thomas Edwards - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 07:42:33 EST ID:/Jf4SVf8 No.156612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i agree, that other thread annoyed me

not a traveled enough person to give advice, but if youre ever visiting egypt i highly recommend koshari, in my experience its so unbelievably wholesome, moreish, filling and cheap.

theres a place in Leicester square that does an interpretation of it, which i think is pretty close
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Hubert Keller - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 21:31:39 EST ID:+7aI1Gtz No.156636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently living in Vietnam and the street food here is generally what you avoid. A lot of it tends to be undercooked/raw or just really bad meat. If you want to eat local food you eat at an extremely inexpensive local eatery. Granted you can normally get a street banh mi (Vietnamese sandwich) no problems but stuff like BBQ meat I would avoid. I was in Laos before and got BBQ street meat on 2 occasions and both times the meat was bloody and raw and disgusting. Wtf just cook the goddamn meat.

I have been to India and Nepal before and the street food was a lot better, mainly because a lot of it didn't feature meat. But again if you wanted to eat local food, you wouldn't get it off the streets. However a lot of the Indian sweets you would buy on the street. I remember I used to eat this big balls of deep fried sugar. They were kinda intense but they love them over there. You can also get weed milkshakes on the street over there.
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Georges Blanc - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 08:27:31 EST ID:aikhWt3z No.156637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Not exactly "exotic", since it's just corn in a cup... But Elotes (en vaso) are the shit. It's corn with butter or mayo, chile powder, hot sauce, lime, peanuts, and whatever other shit you wanna throw in there.

There's also dorito-elotes, which is an elote served in a small doritos bag. Yeah, that's right. Corn+mayo+cheese+doritos+spices. Don't knock it til you try it.
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Andrew Zimmern - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 12:04:51 EST ID:YtkF9rY/ No.156639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watched this the other day, looked really good. His hand-powered blender is pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiReKCOgc0Q

Guy has a playlist of indian street vendors.
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Franz Quixtner - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 18:44:29 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.156645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156637
Oh yeah, we have elotes stands all over here. Here in Tx, you can find them at every other gas station in Hispanic neighbourhoods.

It's really good shit. I remember the first time a friendconvinced me to get some. We were both high as fuck and saw a stand. It was an amazing experience. I'm glad those stands are still around though they don't seem to be as prevalent asthey used to be.
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Guy Savoy - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:06:36 EST ID:dLdaOzGY No.156646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156637
>spicy corn an mayonnaise soup

yup, that's gotta be great for you
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Elijah Joy - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:48:09 EST ID:GIG8Nmo4 No.156647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156646

lol mexican snacks are rarely good for you
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Alain Passard - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 11:19:05 EST ID:1s3YOQ5U No.156648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156647
yeah, they are either very sweet or very bitter. There is like no balance.
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Elijah Joy - Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:25:31 EST ID:nM0uNBhw No.156655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156648
Bitter snack foods? Wtf is up with that? I thought bitter was chiefly used in digestifs and shit to end meals. Snacks I thought were always salty and/or sweet, regardless of your culture, but I guess I’m mistaken.
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Antoine Parmentier - Fri, 07 Sep 2018 16:50:06 EST ID:tGJKkhAd No.156660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156655
elotes is neither sweet nor bitter, so that guy has literally no idea what he's talking about.
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Tyler Florence - Fri, 07 Sep 2018 18:16:11 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.156661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156648
I've never heard of any mexican food that is bitter, and I"ve eaten it all. Please enlighten me on this new Mexican food that is bitter. I'd like to try it some time.

>>156646
Because people go to street vendors and gas station vendors to get health food? Lol, dumbest post in this thread. Even dumber than the post talking shit about non existent Mexican food.
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Joël Robuchon - Fri, 07 Sep 2018 21:16:37 EST ID:Z36jtSge No.156662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156660
Elotes is neither a sweet or a bitter snack.

>>156661

I'm from Nicaragua so a lot of our snacks are base on real fruit like Jocote, or mangos. They are mosly eaten with vinegar and salt, some and its extremely rare put sugar on it, why I dont fucking know. Ive been to monterey mexico and I know for sure they use s lot of the bitter sugar mix on a lot of their snacls that taste like lime.
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Raymond Blanc - Sat, 08 Sep 2018 07:44:43 EST ID:bnDwnI8O No.156664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I assumed the poster meant sour rather than bitter.
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Michel Roux - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:40:54 EST ID:dLdaOzGY No.156670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156661
lol it's fucking corn and mayonnaise have fun with that
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Jericho !.iRAtomic2 - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:18:53 EST ID:BlTYbjtL No.156692 Report Quick Reply
>>156593
When I backpacked around Europe for the past two months, there was little that I would consider "exotic." I had haggis, but it basically came off as meatballs with different spicing, so it either A: wasn't real haggis or B: the haggis hype is BS. I'll ask my scottish friend next time he rolls around.

Mostly what I saw there for street food was kebab. And it was always good. Primary reason? The way a doner/kebab cooker is set up, all of the grease gets absorbed into meat that is cooked more/drier. So it doesn't matter if the meat was skewered at 5am. At 12pm, you're still going to get the greasiest, most delicious meat ever.

I really wish I'd gotten a chance to try more unique meats, but what's available is what's available.

For the domestic side of things, alligator is probably the weirdest food I've had (Rocky mountain oysters are on the list though). It really wasn't anything impressive. It basically tasted like if chicken and fish had a baby, and that baby was NOT TENDER.
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Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:28:53 EST ID:ij1pCa/Q No.156693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156692
You would say alligator is weirder than pig balls? I've had both myself as well and, man, knowing what you're biting into with the oysters is such a horrible feeling. I guess it's a psychosomatic response, but it's harder for me to pop one of those with my teeth than eat a delicious alligator steak.

As far as kebab goes, that shit is delicious. Where I am in the US the best doner kebab place is, unfortunately, in the mall's food court. I'm all about people slicing delicious meats off of a skewer. I think the fact that it's in a food court is solely because of US outdoor food laws, which is why food trucks are so big. They can be inspected much more easily than a moving kiosk, but maybe that's just where I am.
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Joël Robuchon - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:57:26 EST ID:dLdaOzGY No.156713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156692
yeah alligator was pretty disappointing when I tried it
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Wylie Dufresne - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 17:36:59 EST ID:+NJAlw4Q No.156719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156692
>>156713

From what I gather, alligator has to be treated right for it to be good, because when I had it, it was pretty amazing. It was fried like little popcorn chicken bites and we dipped it in this cocktail sauce that tasted like it had a bit of chili paste added to it. A slight Asian spicy flavor. It was dank. The fish/chicken baby analogy is definitely accurate. But I think that just like chicken, it can be very bland if not taken care of right.
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Carme Ruscalleda - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:07:43 EST ID:c1wfHCEk No.156721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156692
Naa haggis just kind of tastes like spiced mince. I mean, it's nothing overly exciting but it is delicious.
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Marie Troisgros - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:41:23 EST ID:NYhesM2y No.156765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>156719
yeah I've only had alligator that i absolutely loved. Super tender and savory
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Guy Fieri - Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:12:55 EST ID:bdNn8UKJ No.157273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>156719
It tastes like a weird swampy chicken. Still wasn't bad. As for the experience, 9/10 apex predator.

I think it is good morals to only eat what would attack and eat you, children, or koshka. It restores a sense of cosmic harmony and balance to the universe. All the many creatures eaten by creatures that it ate, all those experiences and memories snuffed out, but even the mighty kings of these jungles will taste delicious. And then, someday, I shall be eaten by God.
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Alfred Prunier - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 00:26:32 EST ID:dLdaOzGY No.157289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157273
>I think it is good morals to only eat what would attack and eat you
it's generally a bad health decision to eat carnivores
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:11:58 EST ID:bdNn8UKJ No.157292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>157289
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Chuck Hughes - Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:51:33 EST ID:NYhesM2y No.157293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157292
It's called bio-magnification, basic food chain stuff you should have learned in grade school. Organisms on a higher trophic level accumulate more toxic materials, particularly mercury, pesticides, and heavy metals.

That said, as long as your diet isn't heavy on higher trophic animals it isn't really a problem.
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Charles Ranhofer - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 03:57:44 EST ID:bnDwnI8O No.157300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157293
Not to mention that hunting things which can hunt you back is generally a bad start.
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Chen Kenichi - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:57:46 EST ID:dLdaOzGY No.157301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157292
did you fail your 5th grade biology test?
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Lucien Olivier - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:26:26 EST ID:1s3YOQ5U No.157302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157292
youre a fucking idiot.
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Michael Symon - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 13:56:21 EST ID:bdNn8UKJ No.157303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157293
It's probably less of a problem than all the crap people already eat from fish and industrialized pork and beef etc. I remember people being told not too eat too much fish because of mercury. How much meat do you expect to eat? It is supposed to be an occasional thing not every meal and if you eat it that frequently I doubt youre going to be healthful anyway.
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Lucien Olivier - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:38:24 EST ID:1s3YOQ5U No.157304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157303
One to two days a week is fine eating meat or fish any more than is just overtime for your stomach to process all of that shit.
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Lucien Olivier - Tue, 20 Nov 2018 14:38:24 EST ID:1s3YOQ5U No.157305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157303
One to two days a week is fine eating meat or fish any more than is just overtime for your stomach to process all of that shit.
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Pierre Koffman - Mon, 26 Nov 2018 19:26:46 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.157389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157305
I'm not paying that fucker to sit around doing nothing.
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Ted Allen - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 06:15:43 EST ID:uNQCqzFp No.157392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157305
nowhere near enough protein for someone who values their strength. unless you're loading up on whey or eggs or something. And good luck with B12.

People are supposed to eat meat.
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Jonathan Waxman - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 07:23:16 EST ID:PRJ9Rt6k No.157393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The dangers of randomly pointing at things on the menu at a Chinese BBQ.

It didn't taste too bad tbf, just with all that sort of stuff it doesn't seem too worth it. It just tastes of BBQ and the bones aren't really so appetising. Actual bits of meat are considerably better in every way, but it's not like this shit tasted bad at all.
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James MacInnis - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:20:41 EST ID:1s3YOQ5U No.157394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157392
I never said people shouldnt eat met, but eating too much of it takes a toll on your stomach and works double overtime to process all of it. When I eat when I dont eat meat, I subsitute it with vitamins. Most people that eat meat, eat way too much of it in a single that counts towards eating meat for 3 days.
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Geoffrey Zakarian - Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:18:40 EST ID:HXJEOOCu No.157395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157392
That's actually a myth mate propagated by the meat industry as it so happens. The average American consumes more than 300-400% of their daily required protein, which is 40-60g for the average male. Protein also is readily available in just about everything, being the building block of life and all. Consuming too much protein, as virtually all Americans do, causes a buildup of nitrogenous waste in the body, which puts a lot excess strain on your adrenal gland and kidneys.
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Jean Bardet - Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:11:09 EST ID:aikhWt3z No.157411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157393
I think you mean the rewards of randomly pointing at things on a chinese bbq menu
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Michel Bras - Thu, 06 Dec 2018 03:06:31 EST ID:wkGG0S3M No.157508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157395
>>157394
>t-take artificial supplements it's healthier
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Jamie Oliver - Sat, 08 Dec 2018 05:31:17 EST ID:DzH+9xlb No.157541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157395
Strength training wrecks more than two ounces of muscle a day. Maybe all the trainers are wrong but 1g/lb of lean mass is typical. I'll stick with their advice.

Plus I get hungry as fuck if I don't approach this number.
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Gaston Lenôtre - Mon, 10 Dec 2018 08:02:37 EST ID:bnDwnI8O No.157569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157394
>"Meat is hard for your stomach to process!"
>poops undigested corn
I'd say you're full of shit but more likely you're full of partially digested fibrous plant matter and totally undigested cellulose.
>herbivores have several stomach chambers, much longer digestive tracts and often have to chew their food multiple times by sicking it up a bit or eating their own poop
>some carnivores don't even have teeth to rip meat with and just swallow other animals whole
yeah man it's totally meat that's harder to digest. you know, the food that's already been digested by things of our phyla and reassembled into the exact stuff that we need to live on, much much harder to re-use in our own bodies than stuff that's been assembled into good stuff for plants. Like if your body's a lego house, you wouldn't want to re-use lego from another lego house to add to it, it's far more energy efficient to make your own brand new lego from raw oil.
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Pierre Cubat - Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:18:51 EST ID:KWbS4wqg No.157588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>157569
You guys still arguing about this? Cheesus Chrust let it go already. Nobody cares whether or not you eat meat and besides, you're talking out your ass about evolutionary biology.

Just had bacon sausage fried rice. It tasted good.
nb
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Geoffrey Zakarian - Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:55:06 EST ID:SNdTZncP No.157603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I once had sea turtle caviar. Leatherback sea turtle eggs cut from a fertile 150 year old mother. It was sold to me by a 103 year old withered attempted mummy on the streets of Hong Kong. Apparently the pain of a dying bloodline as ancient as the dinosaurs gets them hard or some shit. Who am I to judge? I like rimming.

It was like egg but one solid thorough yellow consistency. No baby turtles yet. Mellow and buttery.


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