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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 10)
Seasoning Stainless Steel for Non Stick Ignore Report Reply
Georges Blanc - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 05:18:47 EST ID:6XARSCbG No.158779
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I have always loved stainless steel fry pans however I've always cleaned them with steel wool because it cleans them so well, recently I have started seasoning my stainless frypan as you would a cast pan with MCT oil and man oh man the difference is amazing, it takes a bit more effort but heat up your clean pan, tip in some high smoke point oil wipe it around with paper towel and heat until it is all smoking, turn off the heat and let it sit to cool then wipe with paper towel again. After you cook on it use a non scratch scourer to clean it and season it again before you put it back in the cupboard.
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Aida Mollenkamp - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 08:15:39 EST ID:bnDwnI8O No.158780 Ignore Report Reply
I'm not convinced that would work.
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Gaston Lenôtre - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 09:55:43 EST ID:h0Ls1/Zw No.158781 Ignore Report Reply
it's a good idea to oil all pans, including nonstick
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James MacInnis - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 10:00:49 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.158784 Ignore Report Reply
I thought food sticking to stainless pans was half the point of having them. You know, so you can deglaze the crusty browned bits at the bottom of the pan (fond) to make a sauce after the food is cooked. I think you might be ruining your pans.
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Ina Garten - Sat, 01 Jun 2019 13:13:03 EST ID:jvQb0sSs No.158785 Ignore Report Reply
>>158784
Saying he needed steel wool to clean them immediately confused me. And correct me if I'm wrong but I thought seasoning is something you just do to cast iron
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Cyril Lignac - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 02:26:24 EST ID:MhnQuFHC No.158793 Ignore Report Reply
Well it does works some magic for cooking scrambled eggs.

>>158784
and still develops some nice crispins for sauce if that is your deal.

Don't have to believe me, I just tried it a few times and it worked pretty well for me. Do what you want with your pans, they're your pans dammit.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Sun, 02 Jun 2019 08:10:37 EST ID:qb4tK0vC No.158795 Ignore Report Reply
>>158784
>You know, so you can deglaze the crusty browned bits
Agreed. I wouldn't do it to my stainless steel pan, because that's how I use it. I like having the clean slate.

HOWEVER, my stainless steel wok is seasoned like that, and it's fantastic.
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Charlie Trotter - Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:01:59 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158802 Ignore Report Reply
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>>158779

this is dumb as fuck. i use a sponge and a bit of dish soap to clean all my pots/pans. if shit is caked on let it soak in a lil soapwater overnight. steel wool...? "seasoning" with oil? shit's fucking retarded. i don't want slimy greasy pans in my cabinets or other storage areas. they should be clean. furthermore the only time i have heard of this bullshit is in regard to like, cast ironware, not stainless steel
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Keith Floyd - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 05:33:59 EST ID:It3C0mHQ No.158806 Ignore Report Reply
>>158802
Yeah agreed, I really don't see the point of pans that need to be seasoned unless you're some sort of food fetishist. It's like making your own pasta, I'm sure it might taste better and stuff but who the hell has the time and space for crap like that.
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Tyler Florence - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 08:12:16 EST ID:RDs7KYLs No.158807 Ignore Report Reply
>>158802
Iron woks are seasoned in this way. Idk about steel though. Steel wool would beat up a pan pretty bad.
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Marie Troisgros - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 12:11:40 EST ID:5VS7dHrN No.158808 Ignore Report Reply
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>>158806
Yeah, if you're not microwaving Kid Cuisines you're wasting everyone's time. There's no point cooking food when there's already cooked food waiting for you to reheat it.
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Charlie Trotter - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:05:59 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158810 Ignore Report Reply
>>158808

why are you being a dumb faggot and exaggerating shit to the point of nonsense
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Marie Troisgros - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:35:38 EST ID:5VS7dHrN No.158811 Ignore Report Reply
>>158810
I don't understand what your issue is, I'm on your side. Why bother making something yourself when you can buy it? Why bother owning pans that have to be washed and cared for and take up valuable cabinet space when you can just microwave a Kid Cuisine? There's lots of food you can buy that's already cooked, there's no point wasting your own time and effort unless you're some kind of food fetishist. I totally agree my man.
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Charlie Trotter - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:40:32 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158812 Ignore Report Reply
>>158811

your false equivalence between choosing to have slimepans and doing any cooking or cleaning whatsoever is nonsensical and reveals you are not arguing in GOOD FAITH!!!
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Julia Child - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:46:55 EST ID:EYTLQcVp No.158813 Ignore Report Reply
I rarely spend more than 30 minutes on cooking, the idea of spending like an hour just to prepare and clean a goddamn frying pan is just absurd.
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Marie Troisgros - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 14:05:48 EST ID:5VS7dHrN No.158814 Ignore Report Reply
>>158812
If your pans are slimy you're using way too much oil and not seasoning them properly. All you need is a very thin coat of oil. I've never heard of doing it to stainless steel, but it's something that needs to be done for cast iron, and if you do it right it needs almost no maintenance. If you're going to be a reductionist and just ignore the fact that different tools are good for different jobs then yeah, just microwave a TV dinner and be done with it.

>>158813
To season:
>Wipe pan with very thin coat of oil
>Place upside down in cold oven
>Turn oven on
>Wait an hour or so
>Turn oven off
>Wait to cool
Your pan is ready to use, and this is not something that needs to be done every time. Maybe once a year if you're real anal about it, but basically if you're using the pan the seasoning is going to build up on it's own.

To clean the pan after cooking put some salt in the bottom of the pan while it's still hot and rub it around with a paper towel to soak up any excess oil. When the pan is cool, dump the salt and give it a quick rinse. It's easier than actually washing.
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François Vatel - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 15:00:44 EST ID:5WdELw/2 No.158815 Ignore Report Reply
>>158814
I'd also recommend re-seasoning after cooking high acidity dishes
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Michael Chiarello - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 21:40:50 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158816 Ignore Report Reply
>>158814

that wont clean up residue of sauces, spices, meats, cheeses, basically anything that is COOKED into the pan will need more than a salted paper towel
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Alice Waters - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 21:46:49 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.158817 Ignore Report Reply
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>>158816
You don't salt the paper towel, you add the salt to the pan to absorb the oil, and it acts as an abrasive when you rub it with the paper towel.

If you're talking about fond, you're a fool to not make a sauce with it, but if you just want to just get rid of it like a pleb, dump a small amount of water into the pan while its still hot. It'll boil the shit right off, and you can dump the water and give it a quick rinse.
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Alice Waters - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:18:13 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.158818 Ignore Report Reply
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>>158816
Here, watch this.

I honestly don't understand why anyone wouldn't want one. They are cheap, extremely durable, low maintenance, easy to clean, oven safe, and they hold heat extremely well. These things last generations, even if you treat them like shit. People pull them out of junkyards and scrap heaps, remove the rust, season them over again, and they're good to go. You can even put them right on top of burning coals if you're camping or have a firepit or whatever.
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Alice Waters - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 22:43:10 EST ID:sOogCZBX No.158819 Ignore Report Reply
wtf is seasoning a pan?
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Alice Waters - Tue, 04 Jun 2019 23:20:21 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.158820 Ignore Report Reply
>>158819
Watch the webm in the post above
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Chen Kenmin - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 01:21:11 EST ID:JyToIIHK No.158821 Ignore Report Reply
>>158816
good vidjayo.

fastmode: lightly oil the inside of the pan and put it on the stove on low with the fan going until it smokes like a bitch. wipe it out with hot water and repeat once or twice more until the inside is slick and dry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW1paFvxzpQ
i like this one since it's basically your middle-aged neighbor explaining how to salvage one out of the scrap bin.
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Anne Burrell - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 05:20:56 EST ID:i0sm0IXF No.158822 Ignore Report Reply
OP here, everyone feel free to call me a faggot for suggesting you do something different with your pans but I agree cast pans are the shit. Cast fry pans just cook food so nicely, the heat distribution is on point and nothing sticks to them if you look after them right, microwave meat pie guys will just never understand the joy.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 12:49:51 EST ID:xPtNFtaI No.158827 Ignore Report Reply
>>158821
This was an awesome video, thanks for sharing.

>>158822
I've done a little more reading and it sounds like seasoning stainless pans isn't as uncommon as I thought. Cast iron NEEDS to be seasoned because it will otherwise rust. Corrosion is not a major concern for stainless pans, so seasoning is completely optional. It sounds like most manufacturers do not recommend it, and the seasoning needs to be reapplied every time you wash the pan, but it will in no way damage your cookware.

IMO, it's too much work for too little benefit, but that's just me.
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Keith Cholewinski - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 15:58:01 EST ID:4bTajbCi No.158828 Ignore Report Reply
>>158827
Woks are usually seasoned stainless.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 16:39:34 EST ID:xPtNFtaI No.158829 Ignore Report Reply
>>158828
I think the good ones actually seasoned carbon steel, not stainless.
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Michael Chiarello - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 19:22:14 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158830 Ignore Report Reply
>>158818

>They are cheap, extremely durable, low maintenance, easy to clean, oven safe, and they hold heat extremely well. These things last generations, even if you treat them like shit. People pull them out of junkyards and scrap heaps, remove the rust, season them over again, and they're good to go. You can even put them right on top of burning coals if you're camping or have a firepit or whatever.

sounds like any half-decent pan
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Michel Guérard - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 21:11:52 EST ID:Z0KJkHwG No.158832 Ignore Report Reply
>>158830
Nonstick/Teflon pans will get completely fucked up if you do most of those things to them, and they don't retain heat for shit. The coating also comes off really easy and when it's gone you basically need a new pan. Stainless pans are expensive and much more finicky than cast iron, and can warp or chip in the case of layered-bottom pans, which is the only kind of stainless pan I would buy (because stainless is not a great thermal conductor).

Still not sure why you're so resistant. Seriously, get yourself a cast iron skillet, they're like $20-30 for brand new top of the line Lodge cookware, and off-brand ones cost even less. You could probably even find one at Goodwill or something for a pittance. I promise you won't regret it.
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Rokusaburo Michiba - Wed, 05 Jun 2019 22:45:14 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158833 Ignore Report Reply
>>158832

i have a cephalon iron skillet. i mostly just use it to cook bacon. i always clean it with soap when im done.
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Chaz Fable - Thu, 06 Jun 2019 20:47:02 EST ID:dNjjLJ4n No.158842 Ignore Report Reply
I like stainless for sauces and poaching
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Chaz Fable - Fri, 07 Jun 2019 23:18:18 EST ID:CNFZRBuo No.158851 Ignore Report Reply
besides, are you gonna baste in a cast iron? Even the most skilled master baster is going to get a sore wrist from that.
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Maestro Martino - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 02:59:05 EST ID:WzLUnxNg No.158854 Ignore Report Reply
>>158851
I don’t see how basting something in a cast pan would differ, unless you’re confused and talking about flipping shit.
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Alexis Soyer - Sat, 08 Jun 2019 14:34:26 EST ID:8jhkEV17 No.158856 Ignore Report Reply
>>158854

he just wanted to make a "master bater" joke
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Alice Waters - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 06:52:00 EST ID:N88b9Y9G No.158940 Ignore Report Reply
>>158818
>>158819
Does that really make the food cooked in the pan taste better?
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Guy Savoy - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 08:07:10 EST ID:It3C0mHQ No.158941 Ignore Report Reply
>>158940
only if you're wearing an apron of pretentiousness +1
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Wylie Dufresne - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:34:13 EST ID:7PreVkZv No.158942 Ignore Report Reply
>>158940
"seasoning" a pan isnt so much about the food as it is the pans ability to deal with food.

a well-seasoned pan basically has a non-synthetic nonstick layer. its to do with the polymerisation of fats by coating the pan in an ultra-fine layer of fan, then bringing it past its smoking point (and causing the pan to thermally expand in the heat at the same time) so that the fats properties change.
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Beau MacMillian - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:38:12 EST ID:u9cnC24a No.158943 Ignore Report Reply
>>158942
Not a nom poster but worked as a cook for years.

This right here.

Its my understanding that the fat and salt you add enter the tiny cracks and blemishes on the surface of the pan and then expand and sort of seal those cracks up.
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Jamie Oliver - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 22:07:07 EST ID:kw1BJUOj No.158955 Ignore Report Reply
what is this wizardry

I just want to eat good stuff


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