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- Sat, 27 Apr 2019 15:55:43 EST bnDwnI8O No.158208
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I'm heavily cutting down on my meat and dairy products consumption. Not ruling them all out entirely, just doing my best. Can we get some recipe suggestions in here for good protein-heavy recipes with minimal meat?
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Alice Waters - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 16:01:43 EST 9no+VWzy No.158210 Reply
I buy some of those tofurkey sausages, they aren't so bad

I like to cook them with eggs, like regular sausage

lots of calories, protein, and some fiber

other than that I try to eat chicken and fish, anything with a low feed-conversion ratio
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Chaz Fable - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 18:48:04 EST bnDwnI8O No.158213 Reply
>>158210
okay but do you have a recipe of any sort
tofuturkey sucks dicks

cooking them with eggs misses the point
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Anne Burrell - Sat, 27 Apr 2019 19:15:56 EST 8jhkEV17 No.158214 Reply
baked sweet potatoes are really good
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Jamie Oliver - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 00:01:01 EST BbPAH7FB No.158216 Reply
>>158214
Holy shit, baked sweet potatoes are fucking bomb. Just pierce the potato all over with a fork, bake it for an hour at 400°F and enjoy. I'll eat those shits with no fucking dressing or add-ons. Seriously. They're wonderful.
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Alfred Prunier - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:03:15 EST RDs7KYLs No.158223 Reply
Good on you OP. That isn't easy to do. Unless you're a serious bodybuilder or athlete, I wouldn't worry about protein. The average American gets between 3 and 10 times the amount of daily protein they need, which just taxes our livers. Save your liver for alcohol, trust me.

Here is my simplest vegan recipe. You just serve it with white rice. It's hard to believe broccoli can taste this good.

1/2 Carrot, sliced
2 Heads Broccoli, cut into bite size pieces, flowers only

Bring pot of water to rolling boil, add carrot and broccoli. Stir and cook for 20 seconds. Remove, strain in colander, and wash under cold water to prevent further cooking.

3/4 Whole Yellow Onion, chopped
1 Bulb Garlic (or less), minced
2 Fresno Chilis, sliced (or other hot pepper, optional)
1 tbsp Salt
1 pinch Black Pepper (optional)

Heat wok dry on high heat for 90 seconds. Then add 2-4 tbsp cooking oil and swirl wok to cover surface. Let sit for 10-20 seconds, then add garlic and onion. Stir constantly, for 10-30 seconds, until fragrant, then add fresno chilis, blanched carrot and broccoli, salt, and optional pepper. Season with soy sauce to taste (2-5 tbsp) and 1 tbsp of chili garlic paste or sambal (optional). Serve with rice.
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Alice Waters - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 12:34:11 EST 9no+VWzy No.158231 Reply
>>158213
sausage + eggs is a recipe, fuck you son

cooking them with eggs doesn't miss the point either

eggs are a great source of protein and other bullshit that you need, and in terms of how much damage they do to the environment it isn't substantial compared to what you get
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Tyler Florence - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 13:41:33 EST bnDwnI8O No.158232 Reply
>>158223
I'm not either of those things but most vegan food I've tried leaves me feeling full but still low blood sugared, which isn't ideal. Loading the dish with tofu, quorn or mushroom prevents it for some reason. I'll give your recipe a try and report back.

>>158231
Sorry man I was drunk and bummed that the replies weren't as veg as I hoped. You're not so bad.
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Andrew Zimmern - Sun, 28 Apr 2019 14:25:21 EST uVGiUhZT No.158233 Reply
Get some green things off the ground, wash em and mix them with mushrooms in an earthware pot in the yard, let it rain on them for a week or so, then add salt and enjoy.
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Ludovic Lefebvre - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:23:56 EST poOy1G71 No.158303 Reply
>>158223
I'm doubtful the average american gets 120-450g of protein per day. But maybe they get that much processed shit which is really half carbs and carcinogens though. Then again maybe they really do eat a huge 500g steak every day and pile it on top of a heap of eggs, rice, nuts etc.

If you're not going vegan a single portion of "protein" and a good mix of veg will do most people, if you're eating a small amount of unprocessed meat (say 100-150g of cooked weight chicken breast) you're probably most of the way there with everything else taking up the slack.

Broccoli is under rated though. And it's especially good in a stir fry. Being a Brit I notice too many people just boil veg and wonder why they're bland. Cook them in something. Even other veg. A stir fry is pretty economical and can be pretty tasty with just a few herbs and spices and not much effort, the secret is probably oil though.

If OP is dipping into a mix of rice, nuts, peas, beans, *decent* bread/pasta over a couple of days he's going to get most of what he needs without thinking about it though. Unless is he pushing his body really hard or something.
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Pierre Cubat - Tue, 30 Apr 2019 18:55:44 EST bnDwnI8O No.158304 Reply
>>158303
I've mostly been deep frying tofu and eating it with noodle and mushroom soup
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Adolphe Dugléré - Thu, 02 May 2019 18:25:58 EST RDs7KYLs No.158326 Reply
>>158303
>I'm doubtful the average american gets 120-450g of protein per day.
To be completely honest, I've heard mixed numbers. Some stats claims it's 2-5x, others claim as much as 10x. A single McDonalds meal can break 50g, an adult male's daily protein requirement (assuming you get exercise regularly), so it isn't hard to see 3x and 4x being common, but 10x is probably rare.

An important point about broccoli: if you blanch it for 20 seconds before frying, it will have a better texture and a brighter greener color. Once you try it, you'll never turn back.
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Andrew Zimmern - Thu, 02 May 2019 18:42:57 EST A2UkLP8+ No.158328 Reply
>>158326
If you get their meatiest meals yes. However if you're eating 4 of their fanciest burgers every day you should just be euthanised.

Really cheap food has more carbs and shit in and less protein. People will actually struggle to hit the recommended amount if they're eating cheap. A big mac for example is about 12g of protein around here. That's a small egg. Considering the meal is 1000kcal+ you're looking at getting really fat without even getting 50g/protein.

Most people open their day with processed carbs like toast or cheap cereal surely? Then if they're not eating anything decent they might get 20g at lunch and unless they're eating good quality burgers/shit or lots of whole meat they're not going to clear another 30g.

I still think your stats are extreme cases. I can imagine people hitting it on average? 2-3x is believable but I suspect what you have is a mean being skewed heavily by those extreme cases while a lot of people eat 1-2x. Much like wealth except instead of billionaires its fat people with a meat fetish.
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Keith Cholewinski - Thu, 02 May 2019 20:51:42 EST 0oZAqfIY No.158333 Reply
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>>158328
If I eat a high protein dinner(40+g) I don't get munchies cravings, I sleep better and I'm not hungry till breakfast.
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Marcus Samuelsson - Fri, 10 May 2019 05:06:31 EST 4B31pVRm No.158466 Reply
>>158328
A Big Mac is 25g protein.

Count on a hipster spouting off about "carcinogens" he doesn't understand to bullshit up some numbers off the top of the head instead of using Google like a normal human being.
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Toshiro Kandagawa - Tue, 21 May 2019 00:38:11 EST UQp/hgO4 No.158600 Reply
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I have heard about vegan chicken tenders, which makes me have a few questions.
>How does one make vegan chicken tenders?
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Rick Bayless - Tue, 21 May 2019 01:32:40 EST ATIniFkm No.158602 Reply
Lentils are your friend. Refried lentils make a good taco crumble. Don't let years of soup make you think they have to be swimming in water.

Learn to make seitan. It's cheap if you buy gluten flour and better than any of that fake sausage stuff once you get the flavoring down. It just takes more spice and salt/bouillon than you think at first. Eventually you can work in variations, and it becomes a pretty expressive protein.
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Aida Mollenkamp - Tue, 21 May 2019 09:05:53 EST RDs7KYLs No.158606 Reply
>>158600
I assume that isn't a serious question, but just in case. You just raise chickens on a vegan diet, and then make nuggets out of em.
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Auguste Escoffier - Tue, 21 May 2019 10:27:33 EST It3C0mHQ No.158611 Reply
>>158609
I never heard of a chicken telling anyone theyre vegan or getting offended by the notion of eating animal products so I highly doubt that claim.
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Maestro Martino - Tue, 21 May 2019 13:11:55 EST yIb490ez No.158614 Reply
>>158609
I don't know what's in chicken feed, but I've seen them eat mice in the barn.
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Curtis Stone - Tue, 21 May 2019 20:03:40 EST 5ikNSG8b No.158620 Reply
Eating mice is not vegan, even if you are a chicken.
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Raymond Oliver - Tue, 21 May 2019 22:14:42 EST RDs7KYLs No.158621 Reply
>>158609
>arent chickens vegans anyways.
No. They eat insects.

It's sad how contentious veganism is. It's the one diet that isn't total bullshit, like the Atkins, Paleo, or Keto diets are, and yet it's by far the most contentious one, despite being the most environmentally and nutritionally sound.
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Curtis Stone - Tue, 21 May 2019 22:33:34 EST 5ikNSG8b No.158623 Reply
>>158621
yes, veganism is environmentally sound, in the same way that killing yourself is environmentally sound.
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Marie Troisgros - Wed, 22 May 2019 02:14:48 EST 5WdELw/2 No.158625 Reply
>>158621
>environmentally sound

every vegan I know goes hard on super processed factory made "meats" and "cheeses"

those are not environmentally sound foods
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Michael Symon - Wed, 22 May 2019 02:34:35 EST BbPAH7FB No.158626 Reply
>>158625
You know the wrong people. Seems like they just like the title
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Menon - Wed, 22 May 2019 03:32:22 EST ubGEgK77 No.158628 Reply
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>>158208
Beans are always good for protein, or so i hear.. You could make this maybe https://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/black-bean-hummus, or maybe for some level of plant-y iron https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/silverbeet-lemon-walnuts/024bc442-dc08-4dba-a7de-17972d4eb33f

If you want food that's close to meat, and are willing to buy some of the big jazz that's been going on with advertising there's the whole "beyond meat" things. I tried one of their burgers tonight and they're actually really good. Not sure how actually healthy/environmentally stable they are if that's part of the cutting down thing for you, but at least nothing bigger than maybe some insects went into it if they fell into the processing line. They're also really friggen expensive though so there's that.

If you wanna go wholly vegan a lot of people who do seem to eat a lot of fruit, nuts, legumes and that sort of thing, it's hard to know how to get enough iron and such in ways that are actually gonna absorb properly though.
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Marie Troisgros - Wed, 22 May 2019 04:16:18 EST 5WdELw/2 No.158629 Reply
>>158626
I'm a cook and it's over 90% of the "vegan" options that I have to make that have these things on them. Also, if you order from basically any restaurant ever you are not being environmentally sound.
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Pierre de Lune - Wed, 22 May 2019 09:10:14 EST ATIniFkm No.158630 Reply
>>158625
I thought the argument that veganism is more environmentally sound had more to do with land/water (and to some extent, methane production) than with it being processed in big scary factories.

I mean meat is also churned out and processed in factories. These processed vegan meat alternatives are usually just soy and wheat protein pressed together, and those have less of an environmental impact.

Is there something I'm missing?
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Raymond Oliver - Wed, 22 May 2019 09:18:13 EST RDs7KYLs No.158631 Reply
>>158625
>those are not environmentally sound foods
Actually, in comparison to what they're replacing, they are environmentally sound foods. Factories don't inherently make food unsustainable to produce. They usually aren't very healthy though. My vegan roommate has a saying, "You can be a bad vegan," meaning that just because you're a vegan doesn't mean you're eating well.
>>158630
>I thought the argument that veganism is more environmentally sound had more to do with land/water (and to some extent, methane production) than with it being processed in big scary factories.
Yes, that's exactly right. Cows live for 10+ years, and they drink hundreds of gallons of water daily, twice that if they're nursing. The amount of water, plus the amount of food (which requires more water/land/nutrients) is incredibly high. for relatively low payoff.

>Is there something I'm missing?
Vegans and anti-vegans are like conservatives and neoliberals- both can be emotionally-invested to the point of being insufferable.
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Bobby Chinn - Wed, 22 May 2019 10:42:38 EST 5Ytlynf+ No.158632 Reply
>>158631
can we just agree that both vegans and non-vegans are toxic assholes. Sometimes I like vegan food, sometimes I like meat. Fucking hell man, just let me eat what I want and stop telling how bad it is for the environment, because we both suck.
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Chuck Hughes - Fri, 24 May 2019 15:07:44 EST BSB+7lDC No.158654 Reply
>>158631
"in comparison to a humvee" a new SUV is environmentally sound. what a shitty argument. If you're gonna take the moral high ground better than x is no grounds for any sort of preaching.

>land
Native grasslands are superior to monocultures and cows/goats are great at preventing the spread of invasives. The state is not going to nationalize 99% of the country because it makes you happy. The land will get converted over to more productive uses in a meat free world and all will be more environmentally damaging than meat production.

>food
Outside of factory farms cows eat grass or grain unsuitable for human consumption. Neither of which take up more cropland than would exist currently. This makes up the majority of their "calculated" water consumption figures you read off the blogspot.

>pretends to be le middle ground unironically
Pick a side loser.
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Pierre Troisgros - Mon, 27 May 2019 08:16:46 EST RDs7KYLs No.158690 Reply
>>158654
Oh please. Comparing alternative food options to what we currently eat is completely legitimate. You're whole humvee misquote relies on the idea that we're comparing something horribly unsustainable and setting the bar low, but that isn't the case. Again, preparing a product in a factory does not make it inherently wasteful or unsustainable.

Why are you such an edgy cunt? Blogspot? I have a degree in environmental science. You don't know anything about any anons, and insults aren't a substitute for an argument. How about you tackle my claims instead of trying to make up things that undermine my authority.
>Outside of factory farms cows eat grass or grain unsuitable for human consumption. Neither of which take up more cropland than would exist currently. This makes up the majority of their "calculated" water consumption figures you read off the blogspot.
You're wrong on multiple levels. Between your unpleasant demeanor and your clear lack of knowledge on this subject, it's a wonder I've wasted this much time replying to you. Nearly 40% of all land on Earth is farmland. The energy input required to create a pound of beef is insanely high.
>Le pepe 4chin shit
Oh I see. Why don't you go back, instead of shitting up /nom/?
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Lidia Bastianich - Wed, 29 May 2019 01:53:39 EST KDcxLcdI No.158722 Reply
>>158208
If you start eating food based on your fat, caloric, protein, and nutritional needs the whole vegan thing will start to put itself in order. There are only a few ways to go about it and not die. You basically have two options:
Learn to love beans and carbs, or buy premade vegan food
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Lidia Bastianich - Wed, 29 May 2019 01:58:56 EST KDcxLcdI No.158723 Reply
>>158722
I will help though
Nutritional yeast tastes like cheese, there is also vegan cheese which I swear is a-ok
With that in mind, if you love Mexican and Italian food you're in luck, just replace the meat with veggies or take it out.
You dont have to eat like a rabbit. There are ways to make vegan meatloaf, wings, burgers, and some. I'm junk food all the way, I just care for the critters too
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Alice Waters - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 06:44:25 EST N88b9Y9G No.158938 Reply
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I don't like cheese and go meatless once a week. That's as far as I go on veganism.

Here's a cos lettuce salad, with seaweed, shiso and umeboshi, ginger and sesame dressing!
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Ina Garten - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:48:35 EST bnDwnI8O No.158946 Reply
>>158945
lettuce with seaweed, shiso and umeboshi, ginger and sesame dressing
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Jamie Oliver - Tue, 18 Jun 2019 22:05:00 EST kw1BJUOj No.158953 Reply
Sorry guys. I'm all about the meat.
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Michel Roux Jr. - Wed, 19 Jun 2019 07:51:24 EST gfO9jCcH No.158958 Reply
>>158946
also toasted sesame seeds on top. Hope you're not allergic to it.
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Rose Gray - Thu, 20 Jun 2019 05:00:23 EST e/aFcqya No.158982 Reply
>>158208
Mexican food is super veggie friendly. literally replace meat with beans in almost anything and it works.
Italian food works this way with cheese
asian food works this way with vegetables
american food works this way because you can deep fry anything
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Vincent la Chapelle - Fri, 21 Jun 2019 23:00:41 EST FAvYFlY4 No.159038 Reply
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op, add beans to everything: edamame beans + pasta; garbanzo beans + potato; black beans + burrito. put peas on pizza. Do you cook for other people?
It's nice to not worry about cross contamination and have dishes that are easier to clean.
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Masahiko Kobe - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 04:09:20 EST YeIjw2jS No.159042 Reply
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>>159038
Im not sure whether to go ham, or go bananas
>eh, eh
I'll see myself out
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Vincent la Chapelle - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 06:04:57 EST FAvYFlY4 No.159045 Reply
>>159039
>>159042
i thought it was fake because it was in my funny food folder, but I just searched it online and it's real. that was a good joke, kobe
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Michael Symon - Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:02:47 EST jvQb0sSs No.159050 Reply
Wait none of you are on the bananer hammer jammer diet? It's even better than keto.
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Alain Passard - Tue, 16 Jul 2019 19:35:34 EST c/IiTaSg No.159256 Reply
>>159075
Works with English food as you can replace the entire recipe with literally any other kind of cuisine and it's probably better.
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Ferran Adrià - Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:36:15 EST Eazu0Vky No.160185 Reply
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>>160182
what kind of friends?
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Guillaume Fouquet de la Varenne - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:53:27 EST DCokAhwq No.160200 Reply
Lentils, chickpeas, hemp seeds, walnuts, brazil nuts, tahini ... nuts are great for sauces, just combine nuts of choice and liquid and some spices and lemon juice ...

Can you soak chickpeas outside if the temperature is 10 minus celcius outside? or whats the minimum temperature you can soak stuff in?
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Chef Wan - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 12:52:52 EST 8jhkEV17 No.160201 Reply
>>158326

i would like to utilize blanching more, but i have a small sink and hate doing extra dishes. do you have a little trick to use only one pan? like maybe get some water boiling in the frying pan, blanch em, dump and wipe, then use same pan to fry? i dont wanna bust out an extra pot just to blanch
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Masahiko Kobe - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 16:18:19 EST 51aQ06cs No.160202 Reply
>>158208
This is a good idea for a thread. It's always good to know non-meat alternatives to protein sources. I will save some of these recipes because I don't always want to eat meat. It's better to have multiple avenues open. I don't want to eat the same food continuously. I don't want to feel as if I'm a complete factory pressed being. Designed calorie and macronutrient counts planned out for a year down the line, no ambiguity, clear tables set up. lol We gotta keep the people out of harm's way. Too much meat when consumed leads to certain health issues. Not adhering to a completely compositionally uninterrupted diet will fix components of health problems arising from foods.
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Alfred Prunier - Mon, 21 Oct 2019 03:45:13 EST 7Dj49wiK No.160206 Reply
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The recipes at https://www.meatlessmonday.com/ are decent.
Quote: "The majority of your diet comes from minimally processed fruits, veggies, whole grains, beans, legumes, nuts, and seeds."
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Art Smith - Fri, 01 Nov 2019 00:57:36 EST RMJOasVX No.160267 Reply
>>158210
>anything with a low feed-conversion ratio
what a dumbass

look billy bonghead throton, I actually don't know what that means
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Wylie Dufresne - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 10:15:45 EST G7Otfzy1 No.160284 Reply
>>158600
Whilst I abhor heavily processed/sodium rich frozen foods, I've begun eating these since I lower my meat intake a couple months ago.

They're pretty damn good.
>Meatless meatballs (Make spaghetti!!)
>Fake-Turkey cutlets (A side of corn and either mashed or baked potatoes and it's fantastic.)
>Fake-Tenders (They're very dry, recommend that you either invest in a sauce you like or drown it in your condiment of choice.
>Orange chicken (They don't give you enough sauce in the pack, so I recommend buying an orange/mandarin sauce that you enjoy.)
>Fake-Hamburger scramble. (Easily the most versatile product that they sell IMO! I like to make taco/crunchwraps with them. I also like to make it and add sloppy joe mix to make easy, NOT FUCKIN GREASY, sloppy joes.

Morningstar is also a good brand. They're got some good buffalo chicken flavored patties. As well as good fake-hamburgers.


Ya got me goin on a tangent about frozen fake-meat and I have no other words of substance relevant to the thread, lol.
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Rokusaburo Michiba - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:09:52 EST 3u1eHXvX No.160509 Reply
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Cabbage and Pea Salad

Serves 6
15 minutes to prepare

Ingredients
Salad
450g savoy cabbage, thinly sliced
180g green peas
90g radish, thinly sliced
80g Parmigiano Reggiano
½ bunch mint leaves
4g chilli flakes
4g flaked sea salt

Dressing
60ml extra-virgin olive oil
25mls red-wine vinegar
10g minced garlic
15g Dijon mustard
2 sprigs thyme, picked
Salt to taste

Method
To make the dressing, combine everything except the oil in a mixing bowl. Slowly pour in the oil while mixing vigorously.

Combine the cabbage, radish, peas, mint leaves and chilli in a large serving bowl. Pour the dressing over and toss to combine. Use a Microplane to grate the parmesan on top and serve.
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Alfred Prunier - Fri, 20 Dec 2019 01:41:00 EST QQsjVjIw No.160616 Reply
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>>158208
This vegan soy chorizo fried with some onion and jalapeno, and if you're not lazy currently and are willing to put in some extra work some rice, canned tomatoes and some black or kidney beans on a tortilla either fried or straight burrito is delicious and this soyrizo is better than real chorizo real talk. I've been vegan 2 years I'll post more recipes like vegan Frito pie if anyone's interested

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