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SHOTSHOW 2020

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- Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:13:04 EST peDWPPX1 No.44145
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What the fuck, Isn't the new decade suppose to bring a new era of innovation? Shot Show 2020 footage and news is literally all uninspired ar-15 deriatives and pistol carbines/chassis's and (LITERAL) Glock clones, it's literally all ASS. it's ASS where the innovation in the firearms industry gone? This is quite possibly one of the most dissapointing shot shows to date.
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Jenny Gabbershaw - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:52:05 EST YtoEyx4n No.44151 Reply
>>44150
Yeah, w/e. Hate more faget. Bet you're one of those turds who says, "Welp, can't shoot but one gun at a time. I'm a Samuri warrior! I can shoot one gun perfectly, I don't need nothing but my 1911."
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Charles Hinnershit - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 10:17:46 EST RTKm38hZ No.44152 Reply
>>44150

>people who collect things I don't like are mentally ill hoarders!

lmao
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Frederick Hongerfere - Tue, 28 Jan 2020 11:20:39 EST PJS4mi4d No.44154 Reply
>>44151
I betcha he doesn't even shoot lol. You know how these boards can be

Shotty

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- Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:25:54 EST Q57VIXiQ No.43802
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How old do you have to be to fire a shotgun without breaking your arm?
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Fanny Greenfuck - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 14:41:42 EST XvzQvBDU No.43991 Reply
>>43802
Breaking your arm is highly unlikely unless you are single digits in age.

Shotguns in general have a sharp recoil impulse because of the fast burning powder and non-semi auto's are even worse because there is no action to slow down the impulse.

It also depends heavily on the loading and other things.

An example would be shooting light recoil birdshot out of a Benelli M4 or Franchi 48AL. I doubt one would even be bruised at 12-13 years old from 1 single shot if taught how to properly hold and shoot a gun.

However something like a 3 1/2" 12ga slug out of a single shot H&R Partner would be painful to even a long time shooter. I've shot dozens of different firearms and the only long gun that ever left me aching was several 12ga slugs from a Mossberg 500. I had some very minor bruising to the cheek/jaw and some mild bruising to my shoulder. And mind you this was during my competitive clay shooting time in my life and even still, I am very hard to bruise on my shoulder.

I don't usually go around kids because they are annoying as fuck and discourage scaring them with oversized guns and whatnot but the few times I've seen kids shoot calibers and guns too big for them they usually get knocked down from standing improperly, get scope eye, or a nearly broken wrist. They almost always drop the guns too. Usually it is a big laugh for the fudd father who is usually drinking but the kid usually gets scared away from guns and injured even if minorly.

I also have seen many children age 10-13 shoot lots of 20ga and 410's at least marginally effectively and some fire a 12ga. Most that know how to shoot guns that do have recoil can manage a 12ga's recoil, they just can't handle the weight.
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Cyril Brimmerwater - Tue, 24 Dec 2019 10:03:26 EST PJS4mi4d No.44084 Reply
Just depends on the gauge and the weight, how strong the kid is, and how competent they are with stance. Like the poster above said, start them out with a 410 or a 20 gauge. Teach them right about safety, operation, and position. We had a trap/skeet team at one of the schools I went to, kids could start at 10 from what I remember.
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Jack Bardwill - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 10:40:54 EST TorFscSc No.44153 Reply
My dad is irresponsible. I was no pip squeak at 8, but still even an 8 year old can comfortably fire a 20gauge for a morning, or a 12gauge for a dozen rounds. Train your 8 year old on a 410 however and he/she will become a han solo at shooting skeet/trap.

Hey guys, so I'm interested in building my own Draco AK47 Pistol

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- Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:36:18 EST DNccLXNq No.44120
File: 1579314978563.png -(376147B / 367.33KB, 720x554) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Hey guys, so I'm interested in building my own Draco AK47 Pistol
Does anyone know where I can buy the parts?
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Charles Snodfuck - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:33:42 EST hO8BLpiv No.44142 Reply
>>44141
>As far as money problems, man I don't know?

Yeah well, not trying to be an asshole but when you get out there in the real world, man, I dunno doesn't cut it when it comes to money. Either you can pay your bills or you can't. And life sucks having to constantly cut corners just to live because you can't afford shit. I can't speak for Wyoming but I live in Atlanta, I'm certain our market is far better than Wyoming though just due to sheer population. Glock was incidentally hiring during the time I was in machinist school and I'd have to drive all the way to Smyrna to do CNC production work for 16 dollars an hour. And Production machining is the worst kind you can do IMO.

If you're going to go work for a big company that makes guns, be prepared to move and also be prepared to do production CNC. And also get paid peanuts. And also spend 5-10 years in the underworld of green button pusher while senior hands code, program, and do all the fun CNC stuff. You'll likely be hired on as an Operator and not a machinist too. CNC operators get paid fuck all and are laughed at and given the shit end of the stick until they prove they can do college level Trig and Algebra and not crash the machine constantly. You'll have 5 years at least in the dirt and likely only learn 1 or 2 machines. Granted, you'll be amazing on those machines but likely won't have the versatility that manual guys have. Again, it really depends on your level of intellect and memory more than anything else.

>But again, like I said, a good to great machinist is practically an engineer. But gets paid about the same as some dumb fuck "weldor" who can barely read a tape.

Being in wyoming, avoid the oil industry at all costs. Shit is fucked up and a meat grinder, do not recommend at all. I know a lot of dudes who left school to do that shit at the lure of 50 dollars an hour and now they're trapped and poor being worked like a dog. One guy literally just abandoned ship and grey hounded back home to his folks, and he is better for it. Another good thing about community colleges if you show you're not a fucking idiot and can do maths real good, it is likely you can get picked up for work-study programs in Europe. I pussed out of doing one in Sweden thinking the lies they tell you about trades meant I would have control of the show once I graduated and could be mister hotshot telling employers what I was going to be paid. Boy was I fucking wrong. Employers still run the show, and you're still replaceable if you get an ego.

Bosses do not like people who are independent and call out bullshit. They'll run out someone speaking the truth and blowing the whistle on stupid shit. They would rather run the company a man short for a year than have a week of a guy calling out safety issues and illegal shit fucking with payroll. Keep your head down and accept this is blue collar work. Everyone involved gets drunk, is generally stoopid, and is working with their hands and body for a reason. If you have any brains at all, go get a fucking 4 year degree in STEM.

>I'd easily trade getting out of school at 24-25 and being broke all that time during that to have a cush job permanently til I retire. Doing what I'm doing? Shit, I have a statistically high change of not even making it to 60. And the chance of not having parkinsons or copd by that time is basically nil. Don't go into welding/machining. Don't go into the trades at all, the whole deal of trades is a fucking scam. There is a reason everyone left that shit except for chronic alcoholics and doofi.
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Beatrice Ginningnag - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:57:20 EST vRM5YD5v No.44143 Reply
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>>44142
Bro I just want to fucking make guns...It's a hobby, I like it....
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Lydia Dimmlebat - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 01:12:56 EST YtoEyx4n No.44144 Reply
>>44143
Go to enginerding school then you will have plenty of money to do that shit and time off and the ability to do it as a hobby because your body isn't fucked and all you can do is get drunk and lay around tired as fuck.

You've missed the party a bit too to be honest. You're in Wyoming so you'll be the last state affected but I can pretty much assure you, if Trump loses, gun rights are gone federally and if he wins you've got maybe 4 more years. By the time you're out of school and making enough money to buy shit up, an AWB will be enacted. 2030, the US's gun laws are going to be mag bans, a bigger AWB, and a registry. Anyone who isn't making 6 figures won't be able to buy anything preban if they grandfather shit. Not trying to be a pessimist but the old farts on the GOP are the only ones keep gun rights afloat. Millenials seem to like guns a fair bit but they will never vote for the Republican party and I don't blame them but that is how gun rights are going to be lost. 70+% of the countries population already lives under mag bans and a weak or strong AWB. The major states with power already have all this shit, the fly over country will get rolled on in less than a decade. That's just the way she's going to go m8 as much as I hate to say it. I've nearly got everything I could possibly want but I had the benefit of starting to work just as we tapered off of the Sandy Hook panic, right now dude, Ammo is cheaper than it has ever been since at least Obama took office, and guns are so retard levels cheap I'm honestly buying 2-3 guns a month. And I'm making piss all. I've got 10's of thousands of rounds and every gun that takes a mag I have at least 10+ for them. Shit breaks yo and ammo can get super scarce. Stocking up is just smart to do now. I don't need 3 Glock 17's. But if they suddenly disappear overnight, I have to make them last my lifetime, it is foolish to not have 50 glock mags, 10,000 rounds of 9mm and 2 backup pistols. Plus, I was around when my lonely A2 AR went in value from 600 dollars on a good day to 2 grand nearly overnight. If they grandfather shit, I'll be sitting on a small goldmine.

>People will call you a crazy gun nut sure, but I can guarantee you, that AR you buy for 400 dollars, will never get cheaper than that. Fucking ever from now on.

I can't stand the orange buffoon but I hope to god he gets reelected only for the fact that I can finish stocking up everything I could possibly need plus shit I probably don't even need. If Bernie or Biden or anyone of those other fools gets elected, it will be another 4 years of a defacto AWB and Ammo ban from people panic buying. I spent 8 years in Obama's shit because everyone was hysterical. The next democrats to get in office will likely take supermajority and I can assure you 100% federal gun bans and shit are coming. It isn't a question of if, it is when dude. Trump might give 4 years of relief and then it is all downhill from there.

>Go to college, get a STEM degree, be able to buy what you want because you're making a decent wage. And also so you don't get kicked out on your ass because "gunsmithing" shrinks 75% overnight. And you might say oh well there are lots more guns that won't be affected by an AWB! Go to a gun store and look around, it is all shit that will be banned by an AWB. You're too late to the party man, sorry; get a job where you have money. 10 years from now the only people with guns will be those who stockpiled and those who are middle class or better. The rich people are never affected by gun control.

Background check with a felony conviction as a minor

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- Thu, 03 Oct 2019 21:06:25 EST MHl4vSU/ No.44024
File: 1570151185442.jpg -(107256B / 104.74KB, 800x737) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Background check with a felony conviction as a minor
long story short, I have atleast 2 aggravated assault charges from when I was like 14 (its been a long time i forget the specifics). if i remember correctly after all was said and done i was considered an adjudicated delinquent, i forget if they said my record would be expunged or not.

anyway, I have recently considered getting into firearms for sport and self defense, but I'm not sure where things fall legally, and from what I've read so far my state could put me on probation if I don't fill out my background check properly. is there any way short of hiring a laywer to look into my case that I can get info on how to proceed legally?
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George Duckwill - Sat, 23 Nov 2019 21:31:27 EST 2S12Rv1q No.44057 Reply
>>44024
i know you arent going to see this but its as simple as walking into your police station and asking them.
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Angus Fanwill - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:50:21 EST vRM5YD5v No.44139 Reply
>>44024
Speak to the ATF and file an appeal. Since you were a minor and had no firearms related charges I imagine you'd be approved.

Truth

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- Wed, 29 May 2019 02:17:18 EST Ibg+4NMC No.43868
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Guns are for four things:
Bad hunters, weak fighters, the paranoid, and people fighting people with guns

Honestly you wuss bag faggots act like you're special
A mentally handicapped, half blind, 300lb retard in a wheelchair could shoot someone.you either don't have balls, are so weak you're holding back evolution, or you're just plain sick in the head.
Fight me stankasses
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Reuben Dobbleherk - Sun, 20 Oct 2019 03:13:13 EST wv51/p89 No.44031 Reply
MY VAGINA IS IMMACULATE, I KILL EVERY SEASON AND FEED MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.

FUCK YOUR STUPID DICKS AND YOUR STUPID IDEALS OF MAN

I AM BEST MAN, I FEED MY FAMILY, I KILL, I BREED.

YOU ARE SHIT MAN, YOU WORRY ABOUT INTERNET
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Nell Puppersog - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 04:42:46 EST DlViDdLj No.44130 Reply
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>>43868
Cope more, noguns. I bet you've never held or shot a real firearm, not even going to mention owning one.
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Walter Shakefuck - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:33:26 EST 1kGKT9/c No.44138 Reply
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>>44130
Did you really necro this just to show us you're too dumb not to fall for trolls?

Are cops justified in shooting dogs?

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- Tue, 05 Nov 2019 17:11:32 EST Ec9JZFKU No.44045
File: 1572991892147.jpg -(54968B / 53.68KB, 474x636) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Are cops justified in shooting dogs?
I know this might come off a tad bit unrelated, but I’ve noticed that American cops *really* seem to enjoy shooting dogs. For example, there was a recent case in Texas where a cop attempted to shoot a dog but killed a woman instead.

Also, according to the Officer Down Memorial Page (ODMP), out of 83 animal-related officer deaths in the United States since 1776, only 6 were by (rabid) dogs, however only as a result of succumbing to the rabies virus rather than from mauling. The most recent one happening in 1936.

https://www.odmp.org/officer/18741-police-officer-jackson-pinkston-bennett

https://www.odmp.org/officer/19668-patrolman-frank-gerber

https://www.odmp.org/officer/10658-village-marshal-john-phipps

https://www.odmp.org/officer/16225-police-officer-levi-clevens

https://www.odmp.org/officer/22024-police-officer-louis-joachim

https://www.odmp.org/officer/17430-patrolman-henry-fahle

However, this shouldn’t be a problem for cops (or pretty much anyone in general) because America has been declared rabies-free since 2007 by the CDC. Now you can only get it mostly from bats, among other wild animals as the North American canine variant of the virus has been declared extinct. In fact, the last autochthonous case in a human from canines in the United States happened in 1994 in Texas where 14-year-old Rolando Bazan (pictured) died after an unvaccinated puppy scratched him. The strain was identified as that associated with Texas coyote/border dogs. Prior to that, there was also another case in Texas of 55-year-old San Juanita Barrera who died from an unidentified encounter likely with a family dog. In that case, the strain was identified as that of dogs in Mexico and along the border of Mexico and Texas.

Statistically, a police officer is more likely to be killed by their own horse than by any dog. But yet cops still shoot dogs, seemingly for sport. Why is this? Is it really justified? If not, what would be a better approach to jeopardizing peoples lives just to shoot an animal?
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Martha Sozzlebuck - Fri, 03 Jan 2020 12:30:36 EST oZxf/gp9 No.44107 Reply
>>44106

if you are amused then the crack pipe and myself have done our work. time to fold into another dim en si on
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Angus Fanwill - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:19:50 EST vRM5YD5v No.44135 Reply
>>44045
Man if doggo lunges at cop and tries to bite the shit out of him. Yes.
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Walter Shakefuck - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:25:04 EST 1kGKT9/c No.44137 Reply
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>>44092
It also explains why he keeps begging mods to censor this, lol

How to get an illegal pistol in europe?

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- Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:19:30 EST hdqQqI41 No.44059
File: 1574713170685.jpg -(146609B / 143.17KB, 756x519) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How to get an illegal pistol in europe?
What do you think? How to get in contact with blackmarket-vendors.
I wouldnt buy it here on the darknet because i dont want to lose all my money.
I would buy it in the balkans, an unregistered pistol with ammunition. My family is from there so i speak some serbian but i dont have contact to people who would sell a gun to me.
Found some people on facebook who sell their guns but only to people who own a permission. Asked them if they would accept the offer if i pay instead of 300 euro 1500 euro. Thats alot of money for balkan people but they said they cant.
So where do i get my 9mm pistol with ammunition?
I want something like this:
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Polly Fanstone - Tue, 31 Dec 2019 01:07:03 EST PJS4mi4d No.44103 Reply
>>44091
Sure, prick. It's mindblowing that something so antiquated, mass produced, and well circulated would run so high. Also mindblowing that so many countries that suffered under the hands of the Nazis would pass such laws after what happened.
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Angus Fanwill - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:16:18 EST vRM5YD5v No.44134 Reply
>>44078
They got smuggled around and i imagine they have people to pay.
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Walter Shakefuck - Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:20:39 EST 1kGKT9/c No.44136 Reply
>>44103
>muh "if they had pistols the Nazis wouldn't have existed" meme
Holy shit you really are retarded

Your shit hits the fan gun?

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- Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:32:10 EST Ds7QnFfi No.42682
File: 1469334730849.png -(86358B / 84.33KB, 894x840) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Your shit hits the fan gun?
I'm not concerned about home invasion, hunting or sport but I do want a gun as a sort of civic duty. So when shit hits the fan I won't be unarmed.

What practical gun would you recommend? I'm looking at rifles or carbines. Something that I could hunt with if necessary. But mostly this gun would be staying locked in the closet except for target practice. I'm thinking some sort of simple and reliable semi automatic rifle or carbine.

Logical increments based on price would be nice.
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Sidney Mablingstug - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:26:27 EST hO8BLpiv No.44122 Reply
>>44121
Dude load up a backpack with just a mere 30lbs of shit and start hoofing it 20 miles in a day. Shit fucking sucks so much ass. Then add on top of that the society you knew has collapsed and everyone around you is armed, hungry, and pissed off. Bug out tards are fucking idiotic. Buy a damn truck and mud tires. Or better yet and ATV or dirtbike.
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Phyllis Foddlefield - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 17:16:06 EST 6kdsCqnQ No.44127 Reply
Walking with a mere 30lb pack doing 20 a day. Yeah, that's super difficult burger. Got a fitness plan for you, join the military industrial complex
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Molly Bommerpack - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:37:59 EST hO8BLpiv No.44129 Reply
>>44127
I'd much rather ride a dirtbike. I can also take a dirtbike places I could't walk. Plus I'll cover 20 miles in deep brush in a couple hours or less with more weight. Suck a dick.

Purge Event

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- Wed, 11 Jul 2018 01:02:16 EST FVohcW7B No.43675
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St Joseph Missouri 1st annual Purge Event
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James Pigglefoot - Sun, 03 Nov 2019 10:47:18 EST 7SN7Clba No.44042 Reply
>>43683

Near the end of the third movie, in the apartment, one of the evil dudes pulls out a fucking rocket launcher in a tiny hallway. like dude put everyone of his own bros and himself in immediate danger. Like Johnson if you don't put that shit away I'll purge you myself.

Knife thread!

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- Sun, 12 Jan 2020 23:58:46 EST 9hMDW2av No.44111
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Damascus Blade, Timascus Handles. Knife made by Jeff Park
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Nicholas Blappercocke - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:01:24 EST 9hMDW2av No.44112 Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Nicholas Blappercocke - Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:02:22 EST 9hMDW2av No.44113 Reply
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pete sloan

Why China’s Harbin Z-19 ‘Black Whirlwind’ Helicopter is Flawed

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- Tue, 07 Jan 2020 08:56:03 EST jcT/e/m+ No.44109
File: 1578405363686.jpg -(27346B / 26.71KB, 600x400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Why China’s Harbin Z-19 ‘Black Whirlwind’ Helicopter is Flawed
https://hubpages.com/education/Why-Chinas-Harbin-Z-19-Black-Whirlwind-Helicopter-is-Flawed

aircraft conceptualization

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- Thu, 12 Dec 2019 16:24:10 EST QfiGXy1N No.44073
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would a single engine propeller cessna bomber drone unit not cost 1/10th per unit of a patriot missile? this concept would not devastate a well equipped military in an airspace invasion on a cost basis? isn't the physically present pilot with the cockpit high altitude life support system kind of severely out of date according to the available 1980's technology? swarm air superiority aircraft that "talk" to eachother are not a deferred future that we could presently have had it not been forgone by shittiness of the JSF program?

am i smarter than the department of defense or are they not doing their jobs on purpose? more at 11.
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Frederick Blatherson - Fri, 13 Dec 2019 00:55:34 EST wv51/p89 No.44074 Reply
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Smarter than your average bear
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El Golpo True Crime Streets of Freetown - Sun, 05 Jan 2020 18:52:52 EST U7vEufy9 No.44108 Reply
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>>44074
# cope is so hilarious to read
User is currently banned from all boards

Spy shit, covert weapons.

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- Tue, 09 Jul 2019 01:53:00 EST IaBFTWch No.43921
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ITT cool weapons used for assassinations and other spy shit.

This is the CIA's poison dart gun, delivering an undetectable poison that mimics a natural heart attack. It shoots up to 328 feet using pressurized air and the poison kills before the person knows what's up.

Silent, undetectable, perfect for killing dictators and dissidents alike!
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Frederick Fuddledock - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:35:18 EST LWoz1P1J No.44062 Reply
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>>43932
Reagans security detail was just carrying a slightly modified uzi fitted in a briefcase, not a hidden one like that.
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Phistarya - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:38:25 EST CSvf8dbK No.44066 Reply
>>43921
I had a book in my elementary library about guns. Their was this little hand pistol you squezzed with your palm. Later on when I was attending an open campus my millirary instructor told me. That one time someone killed their support officer using this by giving the respect solute to him.
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UnamusementPark !nt9Ko8x8V2 - Tue, 31 Dec 2019 18:32:03 EST uW9WU2LA No.44105 Reply
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>>43921
#yellow vest <
> transport strike >
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This year a
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mises to be a
beautiful c
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Cao Cao in the history HAD NEVER SAID THIS SENTENCE

build AK from parts?

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- Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:25:58 EST lWbMc6Q1 No.44049
File: 1573428358568.png -(26535B / 25.91KB, 128x128) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. build AK from parts?
is it feasible to build your ak from parts?

i don't mean machining your own parts, i mean buying parts from assorted sources and putting it all together

i'd like to do this please if you guys would point me in the right direction, i have a misr 10 AK and i hate it
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Frederick Brunkinman - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:51:16 EST PBfqTwzD No.44061 Reply
>>44051
you don't have to go to an FFL if its an 80% lower, get a buddy to drill some holes in it, and it is done
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Thomas Pickway - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:52:53 EST rHpVdMbL No.44063 Reply
>>44061

Problem with that is that you can't ever transfer or sell it, unless you wanna go through the endless headache of trying to get the ATF to register a serial number for it.

Which is gonna suck ass after democrats inevitably re-take the white house and get another AWB passed, and even the shittiest of shitty ARs and AKs that are grandfathered will be selling for $4,000+
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Caroline Pemmlesteg - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 21:06:44 EST gG9cwjCs No.44070 Reply
So much misinformation in this thread. ffs

Alright so I've built a couple. First thing to know is to buy a real heat treated receiver and do it right so you don't end up with total shit from a blank or 80% or whatever. I am speaking from experience. Just go through the FFL and get a real lower. Second piece of advice is buy a real AK. This isn't an AR. This shit is actually pretty difficult and I'm a pretty highly skilled machinist.

It has been a long time since it has been cost effective to buy parts kits and then turn them into rifles. At least 10 years at this point. You also need the tools to start with since you need more than a ratchet set and screw driver unlike with an AR. As I remember it I needed to make from scratch a bending jig, I needed a press, I used a lathe although I could have gotten away without one, a milling machine although a drill press would work just slower, a custom made rivet crusher for my press, and a heat treating furnace along with a welder. You can bypass the bending jig, welding, and heat treating by buying a premade receiver.

Next thing is be prepared to fuck up some shit. I botched my first build's receiver by not heat treating and welding the guide rails right IIRC. I also didn't turn down my barrel and it was oversized by about 2 thou and it made pressing and headspacing an utter nightmare. I literally bent my press slightly and first barrel badly by getting pissed and carried away one late night. Again, you have different parts in a parts kit usually and those parts are from all kinds of different countries who had different factories and you get 1 or 2 barrel manufactures to work with so all that shit needs to be in spec to work. And it never is.

I won't get into building as you can research that on your own but again, it isn't cost effective anymore, your first couple will be shittier than your wasr-10, and there are tons of headaches to deal with along with needing specialize tools which will immediately blow your budget out of the water unless you're building at least 7-10 rifles.

You also have 922r compliance to deal with. I won't go into this but it is pretty easy to deal with but you gotta have at least like 9 parts that are US made or else it is illegal. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for this but building guns in the US from imported parts kits gets "tricky" in this regard. IIRC a decent tapco trigger group is like 4-5 parts, the barrel is 1, the receiver is 1, and the stocks and shit can be like 2 so it isn't too hard to pass. Been a minute since I bothered with building guns from parts kits so just look up 922(r) AK compliance. Another little caveat is to toss the triggers that come with the parts kits. I'm not sure about now but you used to get parts kits with the F/A triggers. Of course the receiver won't be the "3rd hole" NFA violation but constructive intent and whatnot.

Next I'll go into some of the shit said in this thread that is wrong or misleading.

>You don't need to build a whole new rifle, swap out pieces on your misr to make something you like.
While this is true and I recommend the gist of it, AK's aren't AR's. You can't usually swap out the buttstock for example without drilling out the old rivets and pressing new ones for the new stock. It is usually best to go to a range and try out a few variants to see what you like. I loved underfolders until I built one and learned to utterly loathe that shit stock. I sold it and fished further upstream and bought a sidefolder which I liked even less. And then I sold that and just bought an AR because AK's Fucking suck.

>OP this is what people used to do in the 1990s when it was still cost-efficient to import AKs from overseas
Yep, back when you could get surplus 7.62x39 AK's were the shit. Then the surplus dried up and overnight we went to AK-74's. Then Obama snubbed the import of 7n6 and welp, now 5.45 AK's are utterly useless. Thank god I got out of them before they went tits up.

>its probably not exactly legal but you can buy unstamped or partially machined lower receivers (the main gun part of the gun) with no paperwork
Depends on the state. Federally it is legal to make anything that doesn't violate federal law. Making a S/A AK that is within the NFA is legal so long as it is 922r compliant and whatnot. And yes you can buy blanks or 80%s without paperwork anywhere in the US as far as I understand. The ATF says what is and isn't a firearm. At some point the line is drawn between a hunk of sheet metal vs a functioning gun.

>get a buddy to drill some holes in it
This is illegal btw. You can only make firearms if you are the person completing them. Even if someone does it for free they are manufacturing a firearm without an FFL. To make guns for the intent of selling them or distributing them, you have the have an FFL. Some guy in California used to have 80% build parties until the state cracked some heads on this.

>Problem with that is that you can't ever transfer or sell it, unless you wanna go through the endless headache of trying to get the ATF to register a serial number for it.
While you can't make guns for the intent to sell, you can sell homemade firearms. This is another misconception. You can also stamp whatever SN you want into a firearm you made and it is totally legal. The ATF doesn't register SN's to guns the manufacturer does and then the FFL records the transaction. The ATF then procures black books from the FFL on the transactions. Black book logs must be maintained for 20 years after the transaction at the FFL.

>But again, I don't recommend bothering with the headache.
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