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- Wed, 27 May 2015 13:24:59 EST S9tl7xu3 No.40694
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Anybody know some great places to buy swords online? I realize this isnt google, but I (for some reason) trust you folks better than other online sources. Looking for the following features in a sword:

>simple design. Looking for function, not flashiness
>inexpensive. Swords are expensive I know, but I'm looking for something in the $100-250 range
> looking for a short sword or a dirk
> sturdiness and reliability

Pic related
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Whitey Punderford - Wed, 27 May 2015 22:38:21 EST kLa8Gg8e No.40698 Reply
Coldsteel.com has some of that unbreakable plastic trainer type stuff. Seems more logical to me than a sword that takes maintenance, but you rely more on bludgeoning than cutting with them
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Lydia Hongerham - Thu, 28 May 2015 02:59:29 EST GmdureUq No.40701 Reply
>>40698
I checked out cold steel, and they seemed at first to have what I was looking for, but alas their swords range from dagger sized blades straight to longswords, skipping the shortsword category completely.
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Phyllis Gemmerbury - Thu, 28 May 2015 13:18:04 EST mtRteRVP No.40702 Reply
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You know op I realize that some people buy things just because they want them, but still I am curious what do you intend to do with this sword of yours?

You see the part that concerns me is the fact that you want functionality which leads me to believe that you want to actually use it .(for the love of Christ please don't say home defense.)

Anyway, my second concern is the fact that you want it cheap, for the most part swords sold online and at cutlery shops are complete garbage they are completely useless for anything other than hanging on a wall. (I dont care how many small sticks or bottles of water you can cut with it.) My point being that you will not find a sword that is actually worth its salt at that price point. Swords are a novelty and functional swords are even more so. If you want to get into it properly you will need to make an investment.

My over all arching point is that you don't want to look like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dKwHOfd2dk

which is what most people who are after swords end up looking like some guy who has no ability and a sword from a pawn shop or some online retailer so he can flail it around his back yard a few times before hanging it on a wall.

Im not trying to discourage you Im simply trying to make you more aware

Find an actual swordsman or someone who actually knows something on the matter and pay for some actual training (even if its just simple fencing lessons) will go alot further than what you learn online or from some weeaboo
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Albert Dopperworth - Thu, 28 May 2015 18:09:30 EST ZKlgipxN No.40703 Reply
Coldsteel already got some attention in this thread.

A decent sword is going to be at least as expensive as a gun, though. And chances are, it'll end up being more complicated legally if you ever use it on someone.

It's a lot easier, I'd think, to portray a killing negatively if it were done with a sword rather than a gun. With a gun, the person using it could be said to have been cowering, but with a sword, the person using it has to have stood against and cut down their attacker.

It just isn't a good look in court, that's all.
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Albert Dopperworth - Thu, 28 May 2015 18:12:08 EST ZKlgipxN No.40704 Reply
>>40701

Nonsense, they've got short swords. Take another look. Maybe find a better example of their catalogue.

If you want something smaller still, maybe a machete would suit you better? It's a fine option.
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Hannah Dremmerpug - Thu, 28 May 2015 23:20:54 EST P9ddhs4G No.40706 Reply
>>40701

Cold Steel has a bunch of shortswords dude, the Viking broadsword is one of my favorites out of their catalogue and it's a shortsword. They also have a bunch of sabers ranging from long to shortish.

>>40702

m8 this is a weapons board I-oh you judt don't want him to look stupid.

k
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PONY !zomGDeAgLE - Sat, 30 May 2015 22:15:55 EST JW6A/1ow No.40714 Reply
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>1000BC+3015
>wanting shortswords
>shig that dig
OP, look here:
>>39367
Then tell us why you want a sword so we can make fun of you.
Pic sorta related. You should wait for carbon composite swords to hit the market because higher tech is more gooder.
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Barnaby Mazzlefoot - Sun, 31 May 2015 19:42:19 EST ZKlgipxN No.40717 Reply
>>40714

To be fair, people still carry knives all over the world. People still carry knives so long, they may as well be swords.

Just because there are better weapons out there doesn't mean that the older ones are useless. There's still situations where they're practical options, especially if the other guy hasn't got one of the better weapons.

How many people every year are killed with machetes, knives, etc? For all intents and purposes, a sword is just a big knife, and if knives have a place then so do swords.
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Walter Semmersane - Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:09:12 EST mtRteRVP No.40720 Reply
>>40717


>To be fair, people still carry knives all over the world.

Yes they do but on average people don't use them for combat and a short sword is specifically for that purpose


>People still carry knives so long, they may as well be swords.
Last time I checked in just about every city in USA (I cant speak for other countries) have rules and laws about what kind of knife you can have most places your not legally allowed to carry a knife longer than 3 inches so please tell me how a 3 inch knife is a sword

>Just because there are better weapons out there doesn't mean that the older ones are useless.
Right but we don't see people walking around with black powder pistols do we?

>There's still situations where they're practical options, especially if the other guy hasn't got one of the better weapons.
Yes this is true but its not ideal (I don't know if you have ever seen someone fight with a knife in real life but I will tell you it gets messy) I would also Love for you to explain to the police how you killed a unarmed man with a short-sword

>How many people every year are killed with machetes, knives, etc?

okay but how many people were defending themselves in those situations? Vs how many people were the attacker? hmm

>For all intents and purposes, a sword is just a big knife, and if knives have a place then so do swords.

Okay I'm just gonna let you just soak in what you said there, but no a sword isn't a knife and a knife isn't a sword they don't do the same functions and operate in different ways. and for the last bit I'm just gonna rephrase your last statement because it gives me giggles


and if Handguns have a place then so do Cannons.

and if Cars have a place then so do Tanks.

And all of these statements I have said are true they do have a place...but not in the streets I think that what ever you do learn to do it well that goes for guns knives and all forms of weapons. However part of that learning process is figuring out the when and were swords don't belong in the city streets and long knives and excessive fire arms don't either. We don't need people running around with this shit doing stupid things it's why there are so many bans on it in the first place. Wanna learn about swords and the art of fighting with them? Great do it, but do it smart don't half ass it.

nb because this topic needs to be put to rest
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Edward Bundale - Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:52:41 EST kLa8Gg8e No.40724 Reply
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>>40720

Your way of arguing is annoying to me so I'm going to spit in your eye.

>please tell me how a 3 inch knife is a sword

Good day, sir.
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Ernest Pockwater - Sun, 30 Aug 2015 18:52:42 EST Ql37DLrp No.41372 Reply
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>>40694
Get yourself one of this bloke's works man, cheapest is £180 ($100?)
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Molly Wosslefield - Tue, 08 Sep 2015 06:03:52 EST KNzrCFPH No.41400 Reply
>>41372
try $276.70

my source: about 5 seconds in google

also i dont know how the hell i got here and am a little surprised 420chan has a weapons board
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Charles Turveywill - Mon, 14 Sep 2015 01:48:09 EST wTz3RdAW No.41414 Reply
>>41400

420CHAN has everything you will ever need.
this shit's ike Shenron.
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Hedda Badgefuck - Mon, 14 Sep 2015 16:22:49 EST LwI0lV9F No.41416 Reply
>Looking for function, not flashiness
>Looking for a sword
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Nell Fuckinghood - Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:22:53 EST doYTf+ag No.41427 Reply
>>41416

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught that.
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Martha Blackman - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 04:41:57 EST ohIRQqu4 No.41430 Reply
>>41427

Swords are very functional weapons. Their fall from favor as tools in the battlefield is more from their expense in training to use them, than their lack of effectiveness.

The guy who brings a sword to a knife fight usually wins. xD
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Barnaby Foggleville - Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:29:03 EST elU+J3Sz No.41434 Reply
>>40694
Trueswords.com

Got a Sakabatou for like $25, a full tang short sword dealio for $20, 12 kunai for $10, etc. Plus a bunch of other flashy stuff to tempt you if you change your mind.
In particular, they just started carrying Shinwa damascus swords which look pretty neato. ANYWHOOZLE
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Nell Blashderk - Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:37:36 EST 09tsDK9b No.41452 Reply
swords are ok. They just take a fuckton of practice to use in any way practically in any situation.

Even home defense.
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Graham Disslelin - Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:09:13 EST RfC3GvQp No.41491 Reply
>>41452
Noooo, it's easy to kill someone with a sword.

It takes practice and training to kill someone who ALSO has a sword.
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Lydia Blatherlock - Sun, 27 Sep 2015 02:33:07 EST u2cLCsAz No.41523 Reply
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>>41522
Shameless double post. NB

I know what you might be thinking.."all the home invaders are still alive"
Well, put yourself in the 60+ year old mans mindset. His weaboo faggot of a grandson got a tax return and decided to buy a 200 dollar shit-teir katana for his dear Sofu's birthday. Attempting to make up for his last years birthday celebration where his gran"dson got him a Mikasa love pillow because "Sobo might die soon and you will be so lonely", to which Grandpa promptly slapped him so hard in the face he broke his grandsons glasses and made him have an asthma attack, Grandpa begrudgingly accepts the sword.
Sitting there firmly on the wall collecting dust and being shunned to the broom closet whenever grandpas friends came over for football, the Katana remained unused and forgotten among the antiques and yard sale garbage his geriatric wife seems to soak up like a sponge. Flash forward to the night of the invasion in that article.
The invaders grab grandma and grandpa and beat the shit out of them.
Beaten bloody and terrified that his wife and himself may be killed, Grandpa panicks and has no time to ponder any other choices to defend himself and his wife...he's old as shit and his boxing years are well behind him, and his cane would break and render him completely useless. Then grandpa, for a split second, remembers his worthless weaboo asshole of a Grandsons stupid fucking Katana!
He has no fucking clue how to use a sword but he played baseball for 25 years and figures it must be the same. So Grandpa is swinging wild like a crazy person and hitting robbers left and right like hes hitting home runs in the Majors. The robbers, cut to shit and bleeding profusely, manage to get away to the car they came in and drive away.
Grandma, seeming to be fine, gets up and dusts herself off and waddles to the laundry home to grab the Oxiclean to clean up those awful bloodstains all over her precious doilies.

Point is, in the hands of a skilled swordsman that knew how to cut and where, those robbers would be quite dead.
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Augustus Pellyhadge - Mon, 28 Sep 2015 10:58:39 EST up7aBre+ No.41531 Reply
>>41523
knives are more dangerous than guns in close quarterss. swords are like walking guillotines that pack permanent disability in every sweep
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A Wizard - Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:06:59 EST uzOQk9Fo No.41618 Reply
>>40694

I could make you one. Though, I might have to buy ad space here to be allowed to advertise :/ and if I advertise here, it should be the clay pipes I make. I'd probably have more buyers.

Though... could always make pipeswords.
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A Wizard - Sat, 10 Oct 2015 02:26:21 EST uzOQk9Fo No.41619 Reply
>>41523

You know, those wallhangers are usually still as good as a kitchen knife for cutting. My buddy cut the head off of a deer with one in a single stroke (huge blood spatter swipe on the garage he was butchering it in, lmao. Fucker had to clean, take that nipples!) without any trouble. The issue with them is that they break relatively easily in combat against an opponent with a proper weapon of their own. That being said, they usually hold up for a good hour if the other person isn't trying specifically to break the blade.

As for other cheap swords... I've been surprised. I have an old saw-toothed single edged straightbladed sword with a blade about three and a half feet, and a footlong handle. I got it as a kid for about twelve bucks from a stand at a flee market. I've used it in combat and sparring, and it has broken it's rivals while only suffering gouges to the cutting edge, and scratches on the back from blocking.

It's hit or miss. Mostly comes down to the type and thickness of the steel, and the geometry of the blade. There are some surprises out there.
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Edwin Dennerkit - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 22:18:51 EST 6Aiv6/AL No.41681 Reply
the amount of enthusiasm in this thread is amazing
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Barnaby Nicklefoot - Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:37:01 EST JVja9r+9 No.41695 Reply
>>40694
enthusiasmo Lords, I have learned a bit about swords and am ready to purchase, unfortunately 1095 spring steel is very, very expensive (apparently, i've only looked at it in katana form). Are there any places for me to get a 1095 spring steel katana that has been specially heated with clay to form the haimen?
I am only interested in full tang swords with ultimate cutting power.
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Isabella Drarringdock - Thu, 22 Oct 2015 07:01:54 EST R5KUnLoH No.41696 Reply
>>41695
>1095 for a blade
Don't let it get wet, unless your plan is to kill people with tetanus, then by all means.
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Cedric Clurrywill - Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:58:37 EST fhM5Vpjk No.41698 Reply
>>41696

Anybody who is serious about their cutlery keeps them sharp and well oiled. Any decent weapon is going to be made out of high carbon steel anyways, which usually implies needing to be cleaned and well oiled before storing for any period. Then again I'd consider that anyone who buys stainless steel swords isn't exactly the kind of person who is serious about weaponry.
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Hedda Midgeshaw - Fri, 23 Oct 2015 15:34:24 EST JVja9r+9 No.41701 Reply
>>41696
I don't want my shit to snap in half. Only fags want their shit to snap in half.
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Reuben Dronningbanks - Sat, 24 Oct 2015 07:27:22 EST KZ0eoIzR No.41707 Reply
are you the dude that sworded up that school in sweden?
but in that case you're dead
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Whitey Gishdale - Sat, 24 Oct 2015 23:10:32 EST R5KUnLoH No.41709 Reply
>>41698
I should have said 10xx, high carbon is good, but unalloyed steel is far more prone to tarnish (or rust of mistreated) and forms significantly less martensite than many common alloys during heat treatment, meaning you get a lower hardness for the same amount of carbon.
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Caroline Punkinham - Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:53:21 EST KzfO4/XN No.41841 Reply
>>40697

Agreed. KoA had a good selection and good deals, But be prepared to pay at least a few hundred if you want a "functional" sword,
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Nathaniel Claydale - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:19:05 EST 5Oe60hIt No.41844 Reply
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Get one of these, then you can just tell the police that you are an executer on vacation from Saudi Arabia and that you have diplomatic immunity and that they are being islamophobic.
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Nigel Cugglestodging - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:20:54 EST /I46HVGE No.41845 Reply
>>40697
most of their shit is unsharpened. Could someone manage to sharpen it themselves? Or pay someone to do it? Would I then have to register it with the gubmint?
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Charlotte Chizzledune - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 19:09:32 EST rCdOAiVI No.41853 Reply
>>41845
>Would I then have to register it with the gubmint?
The fuck? No
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Hamilton Sattingbeck - Sat, 05 Dec 2015 22:18:56 EST KzfO4/XN No.41854 Reply
>>41845

KoA has a sharpening service.
But why would you not be able to sharpen your own weapons?
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A Wizard - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:36:51 EST bR7ZUptY No.41862 Reply
>>41845

If the blade comes without an edge, the steel is likely too soft to hold an edge.

Either make the blade yourself, or pay a real craftsman to make a real blade, and pay them what they ask OR MORE.
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Jack Sundlelock - Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:52:59 EST up7aBre+ No.41863 Reply
>>41845
you can put an edge on any piece of metal and it will surely be good for one time use. it only takes one swipe to end a fight, with any blade.. sword or pocket knife
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John Pittshit - Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:58:28 EST FM7luucN No.41865 Reply
>>41862
Or they want to.avoid classifation as a weapon.... sharpen away!
Check what kinda of steel is a good idea.
No.41863
What the fuck are you talking about, have you ever seen a knife fight or the results of one? People stab and slash the shit out of each other, people are tougher theb you imagine.
Knives usually end with both parties going to the hospital and or dying.... now swords can kill in one blow, but you need technique or a giant sword.

>>41863
>>41863
>>41863
>>41863
>>41863
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Henry Piddlemack - Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:54:39 EST e0Cpxpfp No.41887 Reply
>>41865
Afaik knife fighting comes down to one technique, grab and stab. I heard this from a documentary about prison. They just grab someone around the neck with one hand, muy thai style, bend them down, and start stabbing repeatedly and rapidly. They call it "digging a well". They will also reach into the hole and start ripping out the persons guts.
There is no defence for this. You're at least getting stabbed a few times no matter what you do. Best option is to make sure the guy with the knife is never close enough to get a hold of you.
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Sidney Grandhood - Wed, 16 Dec 2015 08:24:53 EST jvS9pvmg No.41889 Reply
>>41887
So how is anything you said contrary to what I said?
You have poor reading comprehension...
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A Wizard - Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:28:03 EST SLO1rzBF No.41892 Reply
>>41887

Yeah, there's plenty of fucking defenses for this. Have you ever heard of "Martial Arts"? There's thousands of fucking systems developed for defending against no-talent punks and bullies.

Also, that isn't knife fighting. That's not even a fight. It's a very crude assassination technique used by someone with no knowledge of anatomy. In fact, I'm pretty sure that more often than not, even with a dozen stabs, they usually fail to kill the victim. Sure, they get one kidney, but guess what fucker, we've got two! Unless they hit the liver or the spleen, they're probably going to fail to kill the person if they get medical aid, when stabbing them low and from behind. (Those lil things we call ribs are why they usually stab low.)

A fight implies that the individuals in question are both aware of each other and in direct conflict. Calling it a "Knife Fight" implies that they both have knives.
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Sidney Drubberwore - Thu, 17 Dec 2015 10:34:41 EST 7EWioeJ+ No.41893 Reply
>>41892
being stabbed in one kidney is enough to cause fatal bleeding.

There's a reason why OPERATORS stab in the kidney. It's lethal and the pain keeps em quiet.
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Beatrice Hollyked - Thu, 17 Dec 2015 18:16:54 EST u2cLCsAz No.41895 Reply
>>41892

Most martial arts were developed in a time when people killed each other with swords and daggers, axes, and other battlefield weapons. There are lots involving knife fighting, sure, but its not really a fight when the person running at you is stabbing you 36 times as fast as he can.
The really ancient ones probably won't help when someone is bum rushing you stabbing like a crack head. The best defense when someone is coming at you with a knife is RUN THE FUCK AWAY or give them your shit. Only, and ONLY, when all available options of escape are gone do you even attempt trying to defend yourself. And you're still going to get cut and probably die, 50/50 chance
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orthocanna - Mon, 21 Dec 2015 09:51:06 EST IvSt15/p No.41919 Reply
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>>40720
it's relevant that the weapon, all categories, that kills more people today is the machete. you ahve to tally the millions who die in places like the Congo, DRC and Niger. we're talking piles of bodies so high you couldn't see the village they lived in behind them. so yeah, plenty of offensive uses for long metallic cutty things.
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Martha Cliddlelock - Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:04:30 EST MI07BcGM No.41920 Reply
>>41400
I too was very pleasantly surprised by the amount of quality discussion on this board. Never really explored much past /weed/ but I was missing out. Like on the politics board people write really in-depth quality posts, and it's damn interesting discussion. Good stuff.

NB because off topic.
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Barnaby Merringfoot - Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:30:30 EST pnN3U0U9 No.42212 Reply
>>40697

This place is good. They have wall hangers, bangers, combat ready swords, stage combat swords and modern stuff. There is a wide range of prices and quality.
A functional sword will be in the hundreds to thousands unless you buy a modern sword. Example being polypropylene handle vs bone and wood or machine forged vs old school blacksmithing.
If you don't care about historical quality then a functional sword can be fairly cheap.
I've been eyeing a modern gladius from Cold Steel that is 20 to 40 dollars that looks as good as my Ontario Machete. Get a Manitz gladius of the same quality and you're shelling out 400.
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Walter Nattingsodging - Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:45:33 EST 5Tjl2tTq No.42213 Reply
I saw someone posted a Skallagrim video already, but this one is way more relevant to the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5eb9JBF2yQ

Skall is a great guy, I suggest everyone check his videos, if they have any form of interest in medieval combat and melee weaponry in general.
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Barnaby Merringfoot - Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:02:09 EST pnN3U0U9 No.42215 Reply
>>42213 Good video.
I also strongly recommend The Association for Renaissance Martial Arts. They put a lot of effort into going through old manuals and documents.
I also found out about the Kult of Athena through these guys.
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Whitey Choshbanks - Sat, 27 Feb 2016 06:07:25 EST PAnJ8Ux6 No.42223 Reply
>>41892
>someone with no knowledge of anatomy
>Sure, they get one kidney, but guess what fucker, we've got two!

dude you just done shitted in your own mouth, as we say around here
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Sophie Drungerfetch - Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:46:20 EST 66i4OHNV No.42245 Reply
Originalcontentguy on /k/ knows a swordsmith whose work I like. They're not exactly wallhangers, but all his blades are brutally functional, and he tests them by driving them through a steel barrel. But the smith has no internet, and you'd have to contact him through OCG.

I used to know another guy who did nice work, but he got sick, fell behind on commissioned work and disappeared.
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Edwin Harringson - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 23:11:50 EST K8pKjBd9 No.44176 Reply
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>>40694
Upgraded to Arrows & Bows with Gambeson armour.
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Edwin Bunhall - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:12:58 EST fdfM3Hq5 No.44181 Reply
>>42245
>Buying a weapon through a tripfag middleman on 4skin.

Yeah, great advice Sophie.
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m - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 20:28:29 EST +r/TPXgS No.44185 Reply
>>41887
You dont seem to know anything about martial arts. Many years ago I belted 2nd Dan black in Karate, and my knife defense skills were largely derived from Haganah. They teach all sorts of knife self-defense, whether knife vs. knife or knife vs. open hard. One of the techniques is literally called the "prison gut stab," and frankly my survival rate is significantly higher against that than many other knife attack variations, particularly if I'm caught off guard.

While swordsmanship is almost useless in 2020, especially sword vs. sword teachnique (in simple terms, knife against open hand isn't much different technique wise vs. short sword against open hand), knife fighting skills are extremely useful, particularly knife self defense when defending using open hand.

I carry a no-serration blade 3-3.75" long much more often than I carry a handgun on my person. I'm not against guns, but knives are lighter, smaller, thinner, cheaper, and have other uses besides inflicting bodily harm.

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