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- Fri, 07 Oct 2016 05:34:53 EST MoFb2LsG No.42829
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Hello, /k/.

I'm in the process of building myself a cabin innawoods, and setting up a reasonably sustainable living space for myself. Right now, I still have a regular apartment and job, but I intend to eventually go full hermit in my cabin and avoid heading into town if at all possible.

What I need are incredibly durable and easy to strip/troubleshoot firearms. I don't care how pretty they are, and I'm willing to trade 'comfort' for 'indestructible'.

Effectively, I want some guns that I can bring with me in the woods and that will easily last 10-15 years if need be without me heading into town (obviously with proper maintenance).

I'm not really interested in bringing more than 3 or 4 guns with me either, ideally

  • a pistol/revolver
  • a shotgun
  • a hunting rifle
  • a semi-auto rifle

Bonus points for cheap/plentiful ammo. I intend to get a handpress for reloads but I'm not looking to set up a bench and station or anything.
Nathaniel Siffingchat - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 06:20:02 EST 07F54FW4 No.42830 Reply
My recommendations:

Bolt Action Rifle: CZ or Tikka made in a centerfire cartridge of your choice
Semi automatic rifle: AR-15. Cheap parts. Accurate. Reliable. Look into Colt, FN, BCM or Daniel Defense.

As far as shotguns go a pump action Remington or Mossberg will last you forever. However, if you want HARDCORE PREPPERMAN INTENSE SHIT VERSATILITY I'd look into a single shot 12 gauge shotgun. H&R makes some and there are companies that make inserts that allow you to shoot different calibers through the gun and can provide a great amount of versatility from a single firearm.
John Bunningshit - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 07:15:34 EST d2c3lETU No.42831 Reply
Well mosin is cheap and will last forever, ammo is cheap and easy to store.

I second an AR, especially innawoods, dat penetration dawg. Get some good ammo. Seperate ammo for defense against critters and criminals.

Shotguns, a side by side.... duh! No but most shot guns are reliable and priced reasonavbly. But if I was hunting I would get a single, side by side, or pump.

Pistols, I'd get a reliable semi auto. Sounds like it's for defense and u want that capacity and reload speed, just get a caliber sufficient to handle what's in your area.

I'd recommend a single shot or bolt 22lr, for small game harvesting. Cheap to buy, feed and maintain, easy to shoot and can put some critters on the table very easily.
I have a chiappa little badger and I lobe it, as does everyone who shoots it. Less than 200 brand new.
Nathaniel Siffingchat - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:49:13 EST 07F54FW4 No.42833 Reply
You mention the .22, a Savage bolt action would be a great affordable option as they make polymer stock rifles that are very reasonably priced. Some of their models I have seen with iron sights as well.
Hannah Sennerfeg - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 11:26:25 EST FDh9OFcK No.42835 Reply
basically my recommendation altho a little altered. i got a glock 19, remington 870 and a soviet SKS. still need to pick up a scoped .308 sniper/hunting rifle tho
Hamilton Hecklebere - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 23:46:47 EST aJ3xrB6/ No.42836 Reply
Pistol? Couldn't tell you I live in fascist land.
Shotgun: Browning Auto 5, and not one of those shitty new ones.
Hunting Rifle: Something nice, and a bolt, in 30-06
semi auto rifle? Fuck those... waste of ammunition. Get a lever action in a pistol cartridge, or .22 (if its .22 spring for a BL-22, the throw on them is so low it makes my dick hard) or some big ole shells like .45-70. If you can't hit whatever you're shooting at with a lever you shouldn't be touching a gun.
Shitting Geshhetch - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:29:24 EST FDh9OFcK No.42837 Reply
how the hell is a semi-auto "a waste of ammo"? there's a reason why technology has advanced, otherwise fuck a lever, if you cant hit whatever youre shooting at with a musket you shouldnt be touching a gun.

my bro has an old marlin 1894 44mag lever action and its fun and accurate but i would way rather have a semi thats easier to shoot and hold more ammo and reload if i got involved in a confrontation or SHTF scenario
William Grimfoot - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:57:36 EST aJ3xrB6/ No.42839 Reply
Semi's fucking jam, And they do waste ammo, we do a lot of varmit control in Alberta and all the tacticool folks with 10/22s can't hit shit and need 2/3 rounds to shoot one gopher. They lose the ability to hit first shot everytime because they get complacent knowing they have another follow up shot immediatly ready. A musket is smoothbore, so good luck hitting anything with that every shot, champ. Now a cap and ball rifle? Brilliant idea.

in terms of accuracy, single > bolt > lever > pump > semiauto
and roughly the same in terms of speed, but reversed.

They're reliable, more accurate & fast to shoot if you can actually operate it competently. If you are in a SHTF dealio, conservation is key. You are not fighting a commando unit, or waging war on anight club/movietheater/highschool so you don't need to spam rounds down range like an imbecile. Find a concealed postion, take aim, shoot and then move. You'd be up against the average scrub, and I think a lever would be more than adequate. IF you need something intimidating, let off 5 shots from that 12 gauge in less than 2-3 seconds and horribly maim whatever the fuck is in front of you at 100m.

P.S. the fucking jump from the bolt cycling another round is garbage too, I hate it with a passion. I like tacticool rifles and all but I sure hate what they do to a persons shooting habits.
Clara Mambleworth - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 06:56:00 EST evnPdvTX No.42840 Reply
Too bad tube mags can use modern rifle ammo.
Augustus Fandale - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:05:13 EST d2c3lETU No.42841 Reply

All of your points apply to the shooter and proper disclipline, not anything inherent in the rifles.

Have fun trying to load a lever under stress with blood and or sweat on your hands, during an adrenaline dump. It's more fine muscle control than u think
Martha Drosslebit - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 16:35:24 EST gYI4dRyi No.42842 Reply

Also in the event I'm going to be taking a rifle into a building or small enclosed space for whatever reason, I'm gonna take my AR over my bolt or lever hands down. Maybe a shotgun, but only with a sidearm. If you lived in bumfuck Kansas where it's flat as a board and you can see shit 20+ miles away then sure a bolt might be preferable, but I would always have a semi-auto on backup as well.
Ebenezer Hunningville - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:31:59 EST 07F54FW4 No.42843 Reply
Dude you should do some research on the average engagement distance in modern combat situations. I live in a valley in a desert if shit goes down I'm not gonna be fighting in a dense forest or across great plateaus shit is gonna be close up and personal as fuck.

Look at what happened in Stalingrad when the Germans and balloon animals would fight in the sewers and shit-- they'd resort to using their bayonets and knives because their bolt action rifles were useless when they could only get one shot off before another enemy would be on top of them.
Phineas Dangerdere - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:17:18 EST bWQe52qW No.42844 Reply
I live on the praires. That's what the shotgun or handgun is for.
Phineas Dangerdere - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 10:18:40 EST bWQe52qW No.42845 Reply
I live on the praires. That's what a shotgun or handgun is for. We're talking about the woods, not urban warfare and CQC in a besieged city where they'd literally shoot up and down stairways at eachother.
Ebenezer Hunningville - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:04:17 EST 07F54FW4 No.42846 Reply
Totally glossed over that, I apologize.

Regardless, semi auto can be beneficial for multiple targets and or large animals that might take more than one shot to kill. You can get semi automatics that are accurate out to a thousand yards.
Hamilton Habberdock - Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:01:23 EST hkr9ebxw No.42847 Reply
Albert Sunkinspear - Fri, 21 Oct 2016 00:41:13 EST RY5Gv+10 No.42849 Reply
this isn't /k/, faggot. keep your immigrant status to yourself. if you can't hide it, lurk more.
Eugene Nonkinway - Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:37:35 EST 0ARldpiM No.42850 Reply
I think the fact that it took this long for anyone to notice proves that we are all immigrants.

If there was anyone left here, anyway, ded bord.
Lydia Fashbidge - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:01:23 EST zXvag8JW No.43061 Reply
>Hello, /k/.
fuck. off.

here's a nifty tip: no one minds as long as you keep it to yourself. work on it.
Phineas Binningshit - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 12:02:10 EST 1fwvEV+P No.43064 Reply

I'm a 420 national and your 4 bullshit offends me. Get the fuck out.

We're gonna build a wall bitch.
James Simmerpirk - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:52:38 EST RKinY0GA No.43076 Reply
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I'm in a similar situation to OP.
I've always been a city boy and I have city boy guns:
FNS-9C for everyday carry and the nightstand
Ruger AR-556 for protection in case of chimpout

I'm accurate at the range but untested in any type of field environment. Never hunted anything and don't know much about any guns other than the two I own.

I bought some land in the middle of nowhere that I plan to build something on and move permanently to within in a few years.

I'll definitely be learning to hunt deer for food before I get out there and will need a new rifle for that... but there are also a few carnivores in the area, specifically:
bobcats that average about 40 lbs (18 kg)
mountain cats that can get up to 160 lbs (72 kg)
black bears that can top out over 350 lbs (159 kg)

I don't see the need for a shotgun and would just like a bolt action that won't obliterate a deer but can kill a 350 lb bear with a well-placed shot or two (or maybe not so well-placed... I've never shot at anything while I was scared) if such a thing exists.

I think this sumbitch is beautiful and am leaning toward getting one if I'm not going to be spending anything on a shotgun:

Comes in 300, 338, 30-06, 375, and the unnecessary but cool as hell 416

What would you go with as far as caliber considering the deer/bear thing?
Scope recommendations?
Would you go with a different rifle altogether?
Fuck Brucklekatch - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 15:47:54 EST gYI4dRyi No.43077 Reply
Go with 30-06 or 308. Both are common calibers in America and can easily put down a black bear with good shot placement. With larger game up north like grizzly bears I'd recommend at least a .338 along with a minimum 100 yard distance. Good luck with your property.
Hugh Dedgehedge - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:17:52 EST gEMSg6df No.43078 Reply

When do we beat 4-chan at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us memetically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us memetically.

420chan has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When 4-chan sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to site staff and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than 4-chan. It’s coming from all over wizard and cripple chan, and it’s coming probably— probably— from reddlt. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.
Jenny Sillerfug - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 01:55:01 EST RKinY0GA No.43079 Reply
>along with a minimum 100 yard distance
Thanks for the input.
Been seeing some things about distance but I'm ignorant. What's the deal? Is it better because the round tumbles at that distance or something? What would happen up close with the same caliber? I mean, I'm not wanting to hunt bear for food or sport... I just want something for the rare instance in which the bear might be hungry and want to hunt me.
The land is pretty densely wooded and I wouldn't ave much chance at a 100 yd shot anyway. Even if I did, at 100 yards, I'd probably rather not engage... was thinking more about it displaying aggressive behavior at a closer range.

did enjoy a sensible chuckle
Cornelius Hipperman - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:03:08 EST gYI4dRyi No.43081 Reply
I was referring to the 100 yard distance when dealing with large game like grizzlies. They can charge that distance in a few seconds. Then rip you apart in half of that. Not to mention they can take a .308 round to the skull and keep coming at you, hence my recommendation of a rifle chambered in .338 or larger. Although they are usually found up northwest in places like Montana, Alaska and western Canada.
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:09:49 EST rz97hpiR No.43137 Reply
A .22lr and a 12g shotgun would be handy to have. Pretty fucking common as far as ammo goes. Now as far as a pistol goes, 9mm would be handy for the same reasons. I was sorting imagining some surivalist stuff though. Very easy to reload 12g shotgun cartridges and the same with 9mm rounds. It's also very easy to buy cheap bird shot rounds and then make your own buckshot and reload them.
Fucking Claywater - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:16:02 EST a0fR4u96 No.43164 Reply
.22 cal pellet rifle - for small game, quiet, simple, reliable

Single shot shotgun - birdshot, buckshot, slugs and you are ready to tackle anything from squirrels to grizzly bears

.357 magnum revolver with 6 inch barrel and a full size 9mm semi auto

SKS - The god of SHTF/bugout rifles. Simpler than an AK or AR15 ever will be. More accurate and more powerful than an AK and can be used to take game including deer. If you can get your hands on an SKS-M - the ones that take AK mags then you will be Lord of the forest.

Nigel Blackwater - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:24:09 EST 2ecw4Wy/ No.43165 Reply
I would never use a single shot 12ga on a brown bear unless I literally had no choice. That is a terrible idea. A 12ga slug wouldn't even penetrate enough to kill it if you hit it anywhere except for the head.
William Clannershaw - Wed, 03 May 2017 21:44:20 EST 9ORb1li7 No.43173 Reply

What can you expect here though? Somebody said lever actions can't have "modern" pointed cartridges when they have been doing that very thing since the fucking Winchester 1895.

OP, get a BLR in 30-06 and a BL22. You get rapid fire and you don't waste rounds with a lever.
Phineas Blishbury - Fri, 12 May 2017 15:48:21 EST 78KvQ1Pl No.43183 Reply
>Hello, /k/.

This isn't /k/. See, on /k/, they tell stories about cool shit like going innawoods and having to avoid dirty fucking pot farmers who would skin you alive if they caught you going near their grow ops.

This is 420's /nra/, where dirty fucking pot farmers talk about what guns are best to shoot /k/ommandos who go near their grow ops with.
Nell Drenningworth - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:15:49 EST 7YCzBUHT No.43186 Reply
/k/ was 15 year olds that shot their dads .22 once. /nra/ is dead and only retards post pretending to know about guns. opchan/taclink/barfcom was/is a bunch of bitter early middle aged men bitching about everything. THR and others are all bitter old white trash that is vaguely racist and know it alls.

Every gun forum is shit.
Doris Henkinmag - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 00:57:05 EST zw/8WOY0 No.43268 Reply
You can pare that back to probably two guns. A full power 308, 243 or 6mm Swede for larger game in a mauser action that will never break, and a 22lr or 17hmr for small game.

There are plenty of solid guns for the first, I'm actually pretty partial to the Ruger GSR, which is pretty much the definition of a carry always, shoot rarely 100% bulletproof gun but if you were on a budget you could get a surplus Swedish Mauser and it would perfectly fit the bill. The latter can be filled with nearly anything, but if you're not budget limited a takedown with barrel inserts for a couple of small calibres would be ideal.

I can't really see any real reason you'd need a pistol or shotgun, and no semi-auto will last 10-15 years of hard woods use without serious maintenance. There's just too many working parts like springs that require replacement for it to be a true "never needs servicing" rifle. More working parts means more parts exposed to wear.
Oliver Noddleforth - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 02:57:03 EST W1HPvss8 No.43486 Reply
>snub nose .38 s
>Remington 500
>mosinwith optics
>Soviet AK-74
Caroline Guzzlehall - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 08:21:32 EST f2m9eQPq No.43488 Reply
Fuck you guys, you guys are dicks.

NB. just being the random guy to tell you to go fuck yourself.

Just grow weed in your own house like a sane person.

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