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Can a tank have wheels?

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- Wed, 08 Feb 2017 23:51:43 EST GJaC2t4W No.43038
File: 1486615903961.jpg -(91781B / 89.63KB, 800x570) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can a tank have wheels?
I'm arguing with my friend whether a tank can have wheels or not and what
makes a tank a tank.

He's saying in order for a tank to be a tank it has to have a tracked chassis as the main determining factor.

I say it just determines on what its role is. As in a bulky armored vehicle.

I suppose this also goes into the argument of what differentiates a tank from an APC.

Also if a tank is simply determined by treads what about future prototype tanks that only have legs?

Tanks clearly can have more than just treads in my opinion but I suppose i'll let you guys argue about it.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12300143/

Here's the strawpoll.
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Lillian Blackbanks - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 02:55:32 EST maHgC2dI No.43039 Reply
tank:
a heavy armored fighting vehicle carrying guns and moving on a continuous articulated metal track.
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Graham Sunnerfotch - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:58:03 EST W9aa6K9G No.43047 Reply
A tank on wheels is called a technical, so no
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Basil Nillerwan - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 21:55:44 EST gEMSg6df No.43049 Reply
the treads make the tank, my friend.
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William Drimblefog - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:13:47 EST evnPdvTX No.43050 Reply
>>43047
I thought a Technical was a non-military vehicle converted to be one?

Wouldn't a tank like system on wheels be an IFV, or AFV?
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Henry Pittfoot - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:41:37 EST maHgC2dI No.43053 Reply
i think it would be classified as an AFV or IFV .... armored/infantry fighting vehicle
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Lydia Fashbidge - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:50:40 EST zXvag8JW No.43060 Reply
technicals are these ghetto motherfuckers you see on tv in mideast/african irregular conflicts.

also yes tanks need tracks. that is an important part of what defines a tank.
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Isabella Penningson - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 15:16:45 EST 9/vilpRF No.43115 Reply
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the tracks are just so that it doesnt get stuck in dirt and doesn't mean anything for the armor and armament other than it wont get stuck in dirt so it might mean that a tank is heavier. pic is a tank destroyer which sometimes has wheels.
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Jenny Wenkinwell - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:42:54 EST gEMSg6df No.43117 Reply
>>43115

i would describe that as like, an armored heavy artillery vehicle. not a tank. no treads, no tank.
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David Dicklemod - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:44:54 EST 9/vilpRF No.43120 Reply
>>43117
i think that if you refer to anything that absorbs hits as a tank, then people would be okay with that.
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Martha Wivinghall - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:15:43 EST VP93fDLm No.43124 Reply
>>43062

Wow, can a hilux actually take the recoil from that? I'd expect nuts and bolts to be flying everywhere after a few shots.
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Eugene Bredgestedging - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 03:11:56 EST evnPdvTX No.43125 Reply
>>43124
Hilux's are tough as shoe leather. They are basically IFVs for any poor government or terrorist group.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 00:06:50 EST rz97hpiR No.43136 Reply
>>43124
Seconding the toughness of the hilux. You seen what they did to them on topgear only to have them go still?
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Dale - Fri, 21 May 2021 09:39:59 EST GHDuGaEJ No.44536 Reply
Specifically, what is the name of the tank/not tank pictured in the original post.


>>43038
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Nell Fagglesterk - Sun, 30 May 2021 14:45:46 EST m59iCXy7 No.44543 Reply
>>43038
>I suppose this also goes into the argument of what differentiates a tank from an APC.
APC is short for Armoured Personnel Carrier. A defining feature of an APC is that it's an armoured ground vehicle that carries more personnel than just its crew.

>tanks with legs, tanks with wheels, etc
The advent of the tank and its "classical" definition was basically a super-armored vehicle that forms mobile cover for infantry, and gives no fucks about trenches. Being tracked is irrel, but since it's a frontline combat vehicle invented to solve trench warfare, one with road tires would be pretty useless. Even today, warzones tend to have rough ground in them sometimes so tires over tracks remain a bad idea.

Modern tanks can and DO have wheels. Treads perform horribly on paved surfaces, and absolutely chew up the surface. In fact, tracked recreational vehicles (usually "SkiDoos" but some working vehicles ("Gators") come with tracks these days) are outright illegal on public roads for the sole reason that they are tracked. Modern battle tanks can have their treads removed and road wheels fitted for travel on highways. Even discounting the damage to the road, a wheeled tank can usually achieve a higher speed on a paved surface than a tracked tank. The M1, for example, can only do like 60mph tops on any surface with treads on. It can do over 100 on a road with wheels on, though it'd be hopeless in sand or mud.

Anyway IMO what makes a tank a tank is armoured well enough to effectively be mobile cover for infantry, and has a main gun on it suitable for fukken deleting enemy cover (including enemy tanks). It's separated from things like IFVs because IFVs don't have the firepower to engage cover itself, and APCs no matter what are defined by being a transport vehicle and not a fighting vehicle.

Something like the thing in the OP isn't quite a tank because there's too much room around it to shoot at people behind it, and it doesn't look particularly seriously armored either, nor particularly "mobile" in that even with big tractor tires there's plenty of terrain it can't handle. That's probably an "Anti-Tank" or "Tank Buster" which is a vehicle designed to engage tanks from afar but not otherwise do any of the jobs tanks do. This makes them cheaper to field and useful in defensive positions.
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Shitting Goodford - Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:53:12 EST rC198Gj1 No.44569 Reply
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>>44543
If tracks = tank; else (call it something else)
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Angus Pongerfetch - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 02:24:50 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44578 Reply
Armored vehicles with wheels have a tendancy to get destroyed by the recoil of the cannon while tracked armored vehicles like tanks can withstand the recoil without problems.
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HH 55 - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:20:27 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44579 Reply
>>43038
So stupid when seeing alot of wheeled military vehicles, very confrontational when the link between wheeled military vehicles and assrape has been proven to exist so many times.
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HH 55 - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:21:49 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44580 Reply
>>44579
Homosexuality, wheeled military vehicles....
It is the same thing you know....
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Not a foreign person. - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 03:25:37 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44581 Reply
>>43038
He like think he boyfriend with the round weird feet style that foreigners think is good.
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Not racist.../? - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:42:31 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44583 Reply
>>44581
Before you know he thinks there is cheese free of charge hidden in that tube.
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FakeFake - Sun, 05 Sep 2021 05:51:59 EST Ob8vNI/1 No.44584 Reply
>>44583
You talk about him as if his toes on his feet are as long as a normal persons fingers.
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Eliza Brookhall - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 03:11:41 EST nigxknf0 No.44588 Reply
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Challenger RAINBOW
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tjuppatjup - Sat, 09 Oct 2021 14:42:37 EST xxh5mjoC No.44596 Reply
It always seemed irresponsible for an army to use wheeled vehicles instead of tracked vehicles in combat situations since wheels have tires that easily can be destroyed by gunfire.
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John Fottingfuck - Sun, 10 Oct 2021 03:54:14 EST YMqnnQQR No.44598 Reply
>>44596
Modern military tires and vehicles are not that fragile, it takes quite a punch to pop those tire, also they can still roll even with 1 or 2 wheels missing.
Using wheels also gives an enormous mobility advantage in urban areas.
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Barnaby Dirrychore - Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:35:59 EST xxh5mjoC No.44599 Reply
>>44598
No no, wheeled vehicles can ONLY opperate in urban areas since their wheels get easily stuck in mud, sand or rugged terrain.
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Barnaby Dirrychore - Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:38:52 EST xxh5mjoC No.44600 Reply
>>44598
Trashbins are wheeled vehicles also, also you homeless...
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Doris Blommlenodge - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:32:06 EST +uJEYGbp No.44601 Reply
>>44596
those wheels are usually either solid or made with cells so they sont just blow. construction equipment uses em too and you can get overpriced mini versions for normal cars and bikes now. not to mention just armoring them with kevlar or whatever. these vehicles often have many axles too, crewting redundancy

also they THICQ and much of the strength comes from the side wall not the inflation (like how car tires are run a lower pressure than bike tires for the same reason
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Graham Dartlock - Thu, 04 Nov 2021 01:59:44 EST V9fG85t6 No.44627 Reply
>>43038
I am not military, but slip a track means a lot of service.

Wheels, tires, makes sense. People could maintain their own
military vehicle in the field.
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Cornelius Murdforth - Sat, 06 Nov 2021 01:32:03 EST xxh5mjoC No.44632 Reply
>>44627
Yes like they always say the words certain conditions wrong for some reason.
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Sjepseskaf - Sun, 07 Nov 2021 03:50:41 EST xxh5mjoC No.44633 Reply
>>44632
Sjepseskaf: Would multiple layers of leather clothing and leather underwear and ancient roman style iron plate armor protect from small arms fire?
Thyr infecting the pyramid.
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Matilda Fuzzlehidge - Sat, 04 Dec 2021 12:59:48 EST xxh5mjoC No.44642 Reply
>>43038
I can even tell by the egyptian desert colored pebbles that there is a glass factory nearby.
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schepperschop - Sun, 05 Dec 2021 02:29:48 EST xxh5mjoC No.44643 Reply
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I Guess everybody crying because they did not develope infantery fighting vehicles with dual 50mm autocannons as main armament and 4 ho-5 machine guns as secondary armament with the machineguns dual mount and some shielding for the crew.
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Denel 35mm Dual Purpose Gun - Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:25:16 EST xxh5mjoC No.44656 Reply
>>44655
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++GR4V3+$T0N3++ - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 13:55:04 EST xxh5mjoC No.44659 Reply
>>44656
I heared an Afrikan soldier once shot a gravestone so dead the gravestone had to be burried in a grave with a gravestone in the shape of a cross.
+++ a cross +++
asian doublecros
HARKONEKROS
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++GR4V3+$T0N3++ - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 13:59:05 EST xxh5mjoC No.44660 Reply
>>44659
HOW DID THE BEGINNER DARE...
MY LETTERS ARE EVEN BETTER.
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++GR4V3+$T0N3++ - Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:14:01 EST xxh5mjoC No.44661 Reply
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>>44660
Just like a army famos for the HUMVEE could attach a double MG131 mount in the shielded turret, you know... one lefthanded and one righthanded with double the firepower and only shoot tracer rounds that set the target on fire.

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