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Bump While Nodding: Tournament of Opiates vs. Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:04:09 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609151
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The previous BWN is no longer bumping. As such, here is the new BWN.
Post your opi of choice, binges, recreational usage, medically authorized use, and more surrounding this lovely class of drugs.

Today's current cocktail of Rx meds: 15mg diazepam, 50mg tramadol, 50mg tapentadol hcl (Nucynta), 15mg cyclobenzaprine, and 25mg DPH.
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Nathaniel Bimmleshit - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 03:01:13 EST KqqXpzNx No.612046 Reply
Bumping on 1kg worth of PST. Recently I tried a brand that was always dope af then went to average, then they were out of stock for a while. Now they;re back in slighly different packaging and though they are active they're pretty weak. I saw a couple looking at the spice section with the seeds and I think I saw them pick up a packet or two along with some other spices, made me wonder if they just discovered PST on the internet or something but felt sketch buying only seeds or something.

I remember reading a couple of news articles about Aussie pods grown in TAS and that they are highly regulated and even if some randoms start growing in a field they need to be reported (the things spread like weeds so it can be hard to control where they grow). But I also read that tourists are allowed to visit the fields and some people will snap off pods to 'steal' or just out of boredom. I'm sure some locals raid the farms at night to get pods.

I wonder how many farmers down there have a PPT or maybe even opium habit, I'd happily work on a poppy farm if it meant I could have unlimited access to pods.
Sidney Nurringshaw - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:08:01 EST xoWgU1i3 No.612050 Reply
I'll keep it brief. Still alive, doing fine
NZ - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:17:00 EST xoWgU1i3 No.612052 Reply
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Prematurely hit submit. Fucking touch screens. No net at this place. But on the plus side very close proximity to all the dealers.

Shot up 2 points of pure and some methylphenidate, along with usual clonaz.

Just finished a month's benzo wd. Real shit time. Anyway I came to post about how they've discontinued greys here and the scene (calling this now) will change big time. Its fucking annoying cos they were a the best pill to homebake and shoot. Unless you're doing an acid base extraction on a gram, you're fucked now. Goddamn shame. It's the end of an era. Oh well. I don't mind powder but it doesn't have the nice hit that comes from the particular combo of diacetyl, 6mam and morph that I'd get from doing these tablets. Oh yeah other day I'm sitting there with a quarter g in my hand and we're watching the traffic lights and it's not moving at all for anyone. Then a cop bike goes by then another and then it'd been 6 followed by 12 marked and unmarked cars travelling in a convoy with a van in the middle. I saw people taking pictures and that's when OGP points out "that was the Prince and his mrs" - wanker delayed me.

Sober people

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:22:17 EST iVtQ3HeV No.612008
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Anyone here not on /Opis/???? 10 days without using dope. I’m just bored. Funny how my last run of about 8 months I didn’t post here.
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Lydia Worthinglock - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:38:07 EST lBad12lq No.612034 Reply
14 months completely sober here. My suggestion is go do fun things. Idk where you live but most big cities if you just type in, for example, "Los Angeles events 11/19" on Google you can find a shitload of things to do. If I don't get out and do things I'm miserable. Also going to AA or NA can help make you feel better emotionally or just meet other sober people to hang with. I've found I need to be the one to initiate activities otherwise nothing exciting happens lol so that's what I suggest even if you're doing it alone.
Simon Brunnerworth - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:11:16 EST GWrDIkn/ No.612051 Reply
Did 15 days in rehab I'm 10 days off the taper and I'm still going through it. Heroin and benzos.

I really fucked myself this time boys. Waking up after 3 hours with the goosebumps, heart beating out my chest, can barely eat.

I'm sure it's just the benzo d/t still fucking with me, but it feels like mild opiate withdrawal that won't end. I don't even really have anxiety just physical symptoms.


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- Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:41:19 EST h6hF4z8+ No.612031
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Hey guys, my uncle passed away 2 years ago, i stumbled upon his medications stashed away in a drawer, i found a good amount of hydromorphone 6mg, and another bottle of 2mg. I live in Canada, what would be the average price of one of those? Also i dont know if anything i am asking of doing violates community guidelines, let me know and i'll remove my post thank you.
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dr. m - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 23:01:57 EST LOk04uH3 No.612045 Reply
Yeah, just don't take these orally like ever. Oral bioavailability is 30–35% whereas nasal is 52–58%. Supposedly dilaudid is one of the few recreational substances on the planet that's more efficient nasally compared to rectal use, but I suspect that was just variation of a specific study.

So yeah if you refuse to IV them (micron filters only for safety), nasal is your best bet, low to moderate doses in dry powder form, and more massive doses can be consumed nasally or rectally in liquid form.

Try to find someone who will pay $5 per 2mg or $15 per 6mg for all of them. If it's just small transactions, it should be more like $15-30 (15-30 Canadian) per 6mg. Since 10 us dollars is over 13 Canadian dollars, I wouldn't be surprised if particular "high end" consumers would be willing to pay $40 Canadian per 8mg. Then again, opis are usually a bit cheaper in Canada, at least in the big cities.

Hopefully they can pay $20 Canadian per 8mg and resell them for $25-40 per 8mg.
Barnaby Nummletadge - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:11:28 EST OuqW2VxL No.612047 Reply
8's usually go for 20-35$ so I'd say you could get rid of the 2's for 5 and the 6's for 15 or whatever..
Barnaby Nummletadge - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:14:46 EST OuqW2VxL No.612048 Reply
shitty that everyone is hooked on H and fet now or the dillaudid (hydromorph) would probably go pretty quickly. They are the best tho, desu. Go grab a rig and inject one of the 2's.

What is available online besides kratom and seeds?

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- Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:29:44 EST oN6LT/Si No.611181
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I've had excruciating chronic pain after a car accident three years ago. My doctor has refused to give me a script for pain meds aside from a few weeks after a diskectomy(back surgery). He doesn't want me to be physically dependent, nevermind I'm on four other medicines that cause dependence. He just wants me to take 375mg aleve along with my other meds. It doesn't help that I'm 25.

Anyway kratom does pretty much jack shit. I know it isn't bunk I'll give friends 4gs and they'll be feeling good. Seeds are to expensive and such a crapshoot I can't rely on. I'd be interested in ODSMT but haven't found anywhere legit to order.

I would just do heroin like I have in the past but I can't drive, have no money, and everything has fentanyl now.

I appreciate any advice you guys have. Thank you
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 00:48:10 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612028 Reply
There are definitely sober people who refuse drugs and alcohol, but smoke cigarettes and drink a pot of a coffee per day like it's nothing at all. How we conceptualize sobriety and being "clean" are important. Is someone enrolled in an opioid maintenance program or on a long-lasting benzo to no longer use opiates and alcohol, respectively, less clean than someone who does not seek out a program to ease their way into sobriety?
What about this, if people are technically operating under the influence of psychiatric drugs but are not abusing their medications should we consider them dirty/high?

The spectrum of sobriety is vast. With so many substances being normalized for usage (e.g. poppy seeds, kratom, coffee beans, sex, Internet usage, video games, food, etc.) we all have our own as well as deep cultural biases for and against certain mind or physically altering substances. In the U.S. and U.K. there are shitloads of individuals with food addictions. Are these people getting high on food? -yeah, in a lot of ways.

>Or they've decided to just start lying
While this completely may happen it is not always the reality. I think the lines of being clean and sober versus replacing one drug for another complicates the entire concept of sobriety. If sobriety is as cut and dry as not having any chemicals we can be dependent upon or that bring about chemical reactions deemed as pleasurable then I am not sure anyone is really, truly 100% sober in this life.

Sobriety may actually be unattainable when naturally occurring substances (e.g. cocoa) can cause a pleasurable experience. Defining substance abuse and dependency seems to be more possible or reasonable than outright defining what it is to be clean and sober.
dr. m - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:19:55 EST LOk04uH3 No.612039 Reply
How on earth are meds like SSRI antidepressants, mood stabilizers, or anti-psychotics not "sober"? So someone with a legitimate mental illness can never be "sober" again, just because they objectively require medication prescribed by multiple doctors, and taken as prescribed?

None of those meds make me remotely fucked up, not even remotely close. You must be thinking of like benzos and methadone or some shit. I feel 100% nothing from bupe whatsoever, never get the urge to take extra, and I honestly forget to take it half the time and only end up doing so because I start to experience physical WD.
Ebenezer Wepperchack - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:54:48 EST vBUOIBuR No.612041 Reply
Just popping in to point out that there is zero scientific evidence that antidepressants and antipsychotics work at all, and 'mood-stabilizers' don't actually exist - it's just what psychiatrists call antipsychotics to their patients to make them more likely to actually take them and priming patients with the idea that they'll work is what actually 'makes them work.'

Yes some of these are great for epilepsy or other conditions but the current 'gold-standards' in psych medicine are basically placebos and docs are okay with it because the older drugs that actually did something could be abused or had dangerous side-effects.

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Opioids from Yeast

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- Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:23:39 EST WvU6l7Ap No.612033
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>We combined enzyme discovery, enzyme engineering, and pathway and strain optimization to realize full opiate biosynthesis in yeast. The resulting opioid biosynthesis strains required expression of 21 (thebaine) and 23 (hydrocodone) enzyme activities from plants, mammals, bacteria, and yeast itself. This is a proof-of-principle, and major hurdles remain before optimization and scale up could be achieved.
The opioid crisis is about to get a lot worse and the potential here is limitless. Psilocybin, THC, cocaine, you fucking name it can all be made with this technology. Genetically modified yeast are going to be the Nagasaki and Hiroshima of the war on drugs.
Ebenezer Wepperchack - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:46:53 EST vBUOIBuR No.612040 Reply
They've been making insulin like that since the 80's, and insulin is so expensive still that people are literally dying because they can't afford it. I don't see this 'revolutionizing' anything any time soon.

Only CRISPR tech can truly revolutionize this shit.

Magnetized heroin?

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:27:55 EST 6yqIUMPt No.612009
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Does anyone know why the fuck my #4 is magnetized?
When i was chopping it up it would scatter around and away from the card i used like magnetic repulsion and kept sticking to random plastic shit like a magnet does to metal.
>pic is the smack i'm talking about
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- Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:38:38 EST THsMOzcQ No.610405
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How do I inject into my foot? Any sincere directions would be much appreciated.
Basil Mennerpet - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:57:26 EST Gq7Ci+Hg No.610406 Reply
Find a vein and inject. Look up some graphs online so you know where the arteries are. If you can't reach, lose some weight. I really don't know what kind of advice you expect here. Also there's a very good vein close to your ankle, most people have it very visible and easy to hit.
Clara Girryfire - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:47:53 EST 0D2KEBt3 No.610415 Reply
No rush below the waist
Jarvis Nonnernan - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:07:11 EST 6fGKf6TU No.612025 Reply
Thats absolutely not true! I'm blown everywhere but my neck and was recently plowing through the viens in my feet and got plenty high with a rush.

Obviously shorts will be yoir go to needle and be prepared for some mother fucking pain my man but there is some duzziez down there that can last ya a bit.
Sometimes they dont like to pop in the morning but anytime youre experiencing hidden viens just go for a good walk or jog. And again the pain can be a bitch sl3 put som e thing in your mouth so you dont chip yoir teeth


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- Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:44:47 EST UOWVP4sG No.611594
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Has anyone ever come across opiate tincture on the darkweb or otherwise? Would be better than pst with all the same wonderful effects, which is why I'm surprised it isn't more popular. Although, it does make sense that it's rare as it's rarely prescribed for anything. I wish I lived in the 19th century sometimes.
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Ian Dindletock - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 13:18:30 EST AzyZINSl No.611989 Reply
Burroughs makes a big deal about raw opium being toxic in a few books. As a kid who knew nothing about drugs I knew opium had to be refined to be safe for whatever reason. Being a poppy tea addict for years, its certain not as benign as rx opiates. Sure youd get a bit more from searching around.
DTMO - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:04 EST iwPQzXLg No.611995 Reply
Yes, but Burroughs also talks a whole lot of other bullshit too ("just open your vein and eyedropper that shit in there, fam"). I was on the PST train for year, I'd be surprised if I learn much new from a quick googling. I'm pretty sure refined opium still contains thebaine. The process of going from "raw" to "refined" opium is also trivial.
Isabella Gallynidge - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:53:20 EST AzyZINSl No.612021 Reply
There are quite a few funk alkaloids, thebaine is just one. Opium primarily exists to prevent creatures from eating the plant.

why can't cartels make oxycodone/oxymorphone in powder/salt form?

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- Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:45:08 EST ibjpT24K No.611658
File: 1572925508174.jpg -(246227B / 240.46KB, 1024x683) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. why can't cartels make oxycodone/oxymorphone in powder/salt form?
I bet the cartel or trafficker that finds a way to get hold of pure oxycodone will make a killing bigger than Pablo Escobar. Imagine selling a gram of oxy for 100-200 bucks?
Plus you won't kill your costumers unlike fent shit.

Or reality is more complex than that? is it really too hard to isolate thebaine from opium and then synthesize the oxy?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:40:46 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611667 Reply
There's more money to be made with fentanyl and fent analogues

Jack Cagglebedge - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:11:19 EST FPlDBgJW No.612020 Reply
I saw Oxycodone powder on the DNM once, from Hong Kong

Ornamental poppies

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- Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:24:57 EST CTpbttqK No.611999
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Pardon my noobness but are there any ornamental varieties of Papaver somniferum that have significant quantities of morphine when they are fully grown? Normal poppies would attract too much attention here. You could plant lots of the beautiful looking ones (if they had enough alkaloids to be worth the trouble) and no one would bat an eye. Anyone know anything about this? I mean, it's winter now but I'm really curious.

The strain in this pic is called Papaver somniferum 'Danish Flag' but I don't know if it has any morphine, it does seem to develop relatively large pods though.
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Cornelius Fugdemaker - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:09:38 EST CTpbttqK No.612001 Reply
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Damn, I don't know where that post number came from, ignore that.

That's interesting, thanks. I'm gonna plant some next year either way, even if I don't find a strong strain.
Isabella Gallynidge - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:15:35 EST AzyZINSl No.612003 Reply
afaik only Papaver somniferum have significant morphine. Any should do, but some are much danker. Ornamental doesnt really mean anything. To anyone with an eye, all opium poppies are pretty obvious.
David Dirringspear - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 08:20:19 EST YofsFlfv No.612017 Reply
only somniferum are active, but to my knowledge all of the somniferum are (to some degree, potency varies drastically with all poppy)


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!ZcijO7gk.6 - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 03:30:39 EST /tldDCDL No.611876
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Which agency do you suspect are lurking here. Quite a few of us have dropped off the face of the planet seemingly over the years. The internet never forgets and I suspect /opi/ has directly played a role in people that are likely doing bids right now...

Of course, there are those that have overdosed and faded into oblivion, but with opiates no longer an honorable problem, I feel like something is just off. The more I have thought about it, the worse it gets. Do you suspect /opi/ is "bugged"? Why wouldn't it be.

Inb4 I'm a stimmed out, braindead cunt. Be aware that if money from something seems good, it could cost you. We live in a weird time. If we don't adapt and stay observant, we are all as good as banned from IRL for at least 18 months a stretch.
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Alice Gockledale - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:13:27 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.612018 Reply
So people could pretend to be him, so what? It’s really not that big a deal. I don’t know who would even want to do so or what they would have to gain and it would still be pretty easy to tell if it wasn’t him especially if we start seeing Katz do out of character things like tell people to kill themself. Also it would be pretty obvious if we did see that and his writing style change up.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:30:10 EST 9v++/pcV No.612019 Reply
I’ve reported the image twice to mods. Major lapse of judgment on my end. Fuck.

Drugs and keep deprivation do not lead to good choices.


Headaches when snorting smack?

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- Tue, 05 Nov 2019 06:05:15 EST 28pgAMI2 No.611675
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I've been getting dull yet nagging headaches whenever I'm hoovering harry.
I'm gettng very pure white #4 and everyone else getting from same person has nothing but wonderful reviews.

Does anyone else experience this bullshit?
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Samuel Bannertuck - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:02:01 EST 846KSUGB No.611716 Reply
Who's the cat? nb

Headaches are normal. I get them on meth and h.
Sophie Godgeville - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:19:15 EST eiM7PORX No.611739 Reply
It's Maggie the squirrel from krainagrzybow (check it out if you like disturbing internet shit)

I think the headaches are a sinus thing tbh.
The H makes my nose go super dry and crusty ehoch makes my sinuses all stuffy which i think builds up pressure causing headaches.
Pandazie - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:12:46 EST aro+f/jm No.611994 Reply
that shit is a god send and will help with ur dried up nasal passages and headaches too. That and make sure to drink tons of water cuz opies will dry u up from the inside out... Go grab a bottle of saline tho dude. Its super effective and safe to use daily all u want. Good for when ur doing lines and ur nose is dried and therefore not absorbing the powder or for when u need to clean out ur sinuses from all the junk after doing a ton of lines all day... use it b4 u go to bed and clean that shit out really well so ur nasal cavity has a chance to heal and recoup after being abused all day from foreign substances being up there 24/7. Plus then ur morning lines will hit way harder from having nicely cleaned out sinuses to snort with instead of cut infested, crusty, scabbed up, sore af, painful sinuses that barely wanna work. Believe me, been there done that got the bloody noses and headaches to prove it. Saline saved my nose for real.

Wat do

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- Mon, 11 Nov 2019 20:03:29 EST qMjvdQv/ No.611895
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So, I got about 15 empty plastic baggies of dope that I purposely left a little residue in a couple. Now usually I'd ball up a cotton, wet it, hold it with tweezers and rub it on the inside of the baggies to collect it at all. I then drop it in a spoon, add more water, stir it and inject for a nice little rush. However, im out of regular IV syringes and I only have access to an intramuscular syringe which is much bigger. Could I still potentially be able to IV with this still? I could also draw up the liquid, unscrew the needle, lube it up and squirt it in my ass OR... I could inject it into a muscle. What do you guys suggest I do?! I'm gonna be sick tomorrow :(
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Oliver Drashdodging - Tue, 12 Nov 2019 11:40:23 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.611907 Reply
Shit is 25g. Drew it up, got most of it in the vein and maybe slipped out a little during the last part. Anyways, I am no longer dopesick. Thank God. And I got 10 dollars so far to go grab myself a dime for later.
KingPoli - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 08:56:45 EST +cuMph/+ No.612049 Reply
Holy fuck, OP, that is the best meme I ever dun seen. nb

Hydrocodone - yellow

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- Sat, 09 Nov 2019 04:40:45 EST /SS2UHaD No.611820
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Need some guidance or help, and I’m at a low point.

Surface level - everything is fine in life, but I experienced a traumatic situation several years ago and have been dealing with the reprucssions on my own, rejected several different forms of medication because of side effects.

2 years ago, was prescribed 10 mg hydro for knee injury. 3 10 mg yelllow per day. Basically restored my life. Can’t say how thankful I am for it. Never have had to increase. Never want more or less. It’s improved my quality of life and those around me ten fold. I think I can say that they saved my life. As I type this out to this forum I realize it’s the first time I’m saying those words out loud, it’s a strange way to show gratitude.

1) Doctor said he can no longer prescribe because I’ve made a full recovery physically.

2) My local pharmacy said they think the yellows will he discontinued

Those are my two problems. I want to stock up on these, for myself, and honestly I want them to last me for as long as I live. I don’t plan on ever doing anything else but what I’ve been doing since 2017.

What are my options? I just want the safest and easiest way, if that exists. I’m willing to pay, whatever the cost really. It doesn’t matter because now that I’ve experienced normal life again (or a version of it) I can’t go back.

I’ll help anyone who helps me with info or suggestions if they want it. Do I need to set up a private email or something? Seriously, I can’t even articulate how grateful I would be.
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Nathaniel Shakeway - Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:46:39 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.611975 Reply
Posting from the phone. Sometimes apostrophes do that shit.

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