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For homies kickin opiates

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- Fri, 28 Feb 2020 01:22:20 EST Fi5FzQls No.613877
File: 1582870940506.jpg -(82278B / 80.35KB, 720x718) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. For homies kickin opiates
Currently kicking an iv heroin habit. Laying in bed chain smoking Newport’s. 4 days since my last shot of dope, and 2 days since my last suboxone. Decided to say fuck the subs and just kick the rest old school. I did eat some cbd gummies (I still don’t think cbd does anything lol but my girl insisted I tried it) and also took 20mg loperamide. So this thread is dedicated to anyone trying to kick their opiate habit, and for the week or so of sleepless nights to come. Cheers from Philly.
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James Bemmershit - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 01:01:48 EST Fi5FzQls No.613906 Reply
>>613896
Hey brotha, thanks so much! I’m still goin strong, except I haven’t slept in almost two full days now hahaha
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Ebenezer Nengershaw - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 04:25:04 EST uEHpumuQ No.613911 Reply
Hope you kick the habit in the asshole and out of your life. I changed from daily weed and alcohol to opiates and codein because of a surgery and hoping to get back on the weed train after the pills run out.

Hang in there, but not from your ceiling
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Clara Brallerstone - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 04:48:30 EST 6q3RPJUZ No.613912 Reply
>>613877
Was just in Philly to see GZA at underground arts
Was too fucked up on percs to get in the venue

Oxycodone + weed

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- Fri, 28 Feb 2020 04:40:59 EST uEHpumuQ No.613882
File: 1582882859277.jpg -(64117B / 62.61KB, 720x711) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Oxycodone + weed
/wooo/ says hi!

Had a knee surgery 2 days ago and I got some Targinic (oxycodone+naloxon) for the pain and was thinking I really wanna try one with weed. Is there any risk combining opiates and weed together?
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Doris Clinnerlut - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:18:31 EST uEHpumuQ No.613894 Reply
>>613893

I got 5 pills and no supplier so theres no way I'm getting more of them. All right, let's get euphoric. Thanks for the answer
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:21:30 EST vgHBTjMI No.613899 Reply
>>613894

Just don't take one or two every 1-3 days, as it's a huge fucking waste. Wait at least 2 weeks between each single dose. Any more than 2 Targins might end up blocking the euphoria, so stick to 1/1.5/2 tablets, assuming they're 10mg oxycodone. I'm not sure if just 1 will be enough though. I'd recommend 15mg oxy.

Also, don't smoke too much weed. It taints the high. Once you try opioids, you'll realize cannabis is so inferior that it doesn't really add anything at all when you're such low opi tolerance.
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Ebenezer Nengershaw - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 04:22:20 EST uEHpumuQ No.613910 Reply
>>613899

Thanks for the heads up. I have 4 pills left and haven´t taken any weed with them yet. The pain from the surgery is now receding so I think I'll save them for special one targinic and some weed days so they won't cancel each other out or tolerance won't kill the buzz. With small doses like one pill opioids still feel like inferior drug to weed and I'd really like to keep it that way.

Heroin

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 03:43:23 EST LH0BPfvC No.613909
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So i have come to get my hands on some heroin the last days and of course have tried it. I am underwhelmed to say the least. Its rather pure stuff and does not contain Fentanyls (by the time of duration being ~ 12 h). It gives a nice itch and a nod and an overall opiatey feel. However there is very little euphoria. To be honest i have had better euphoria from Trams. Also my tolerance is nonexistant, as i have used Kratom two or three times a half year ago and harder opiates longer than a year ago. Am i doing it wrong or is heroin just shit?
What is all the hassle about?

Bump While Nodding (BWN): A Thread of Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 16:01:04 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612110
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You know what to do: bump when on opioids.

15mg diazepam, 15mg hydrocodone, 100mg hydroxyzine, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine.

I might end up taking more diazepam and hydrocodone (possibly a couple 50mg tramadol and 0.5mg alprazolam for synergy) later on.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:25:04 EST KnL4ajYu No.613900 Reply
>> 40mg diazepam, 45mg hydrocodone chewed up, several moderately high ABV stouts, 150mg hydroxyzine, 30mg cyclobenzaprine, and 50mg DPH.

Life is going well. Love you all!
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George Crobbercheg - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 02:00:19 EST ExLhcyth No.613907 Reply
Some truly babby tier shit.

5 T3s so, 150mg codeine.

Taking some dabs along with and feeling comfy.
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Jenny Wallyfuck - Sat, 29 Feb 2020 03:03:48 EST PZFFZ69j No.613908 Reply
anyone got that picutre of a desk covered in heroin stamps and needles and it looks real dirty

Opiates vs Benzos (which is worse)

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:49:18 EST eHTflFIT No.613813
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Which addiction/withdrawal is worse comparing oxy orally and benzo? Also after long term use which of these two causes the least depletion of the natural endorphins / opiod receptor / gaba receptor etc. oxy is pretty hardcore i suppose it wrecks the natural endorphins a lot more than benzo?
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:46:20 EST vgHBTjMI No.613904 Reply
>>613903
Yes they do, you're absolutely right. My worst time CTing from UK 2016 PST I slept over 3 or 4 hours for the first 13 entire days. That being said, opioid WD caused insomnia is usually a shorter acute phase. I'm not saying it's great sleep in either case, just that severe benzodiazepine WD can sometimes be months of under 4-6hr or sleep and always feeling like the sleep you did get was garbage.

Suboxone, tolerance, and comparison with other opi

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- Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:28:03 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613864
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I've been taking 8mg/2mg Suboxone strips fairly regularly for a couple months now, about 2-3 times a week. I cut them up into 3rds or 4ths and they still get me somewhat high.

However, I want to experiment with something stronger, so I have some 30mg oxycodone on the way. How fucked is my opi tolerance? How long should I stop use of Suboxone before I take the oxycodone to get a decent high? How long does IR oxycodone last in comparison with Suboxone?

I also have the ability to purchase H, how long does a gram typically last if insuffalated? I know almost nothing when it comes to H

sorry for many questions, thanks
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Molly Murdford - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 12:53:14 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613895 Reply
>>613881

Thank you for the answer friend. I was thinking waiting a good 2 weeks would be sufficient. Mainly concerned about the naloxone but it should be fine.
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Frederick Worthingshaw - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 17:46:08 EST IxGcrMpY No.613897 Reply
>>613895
naloxone isnt anything. like above, its the bupe you need to avoid. someone overdosing on heroin can be revived with buprenorphine because it will knock the heroin off. The naloxone is just a meme patent scam essentially.
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m - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:29:26 EST vgHBTjMI No.613898 Reply
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>>613895
The naloxone isn't even relevant in your case. Naloxone only matters when it comes to switching from a full agonist to bupe+naloxone, and even then it ONLY really matters if you're inducing micro/low doses, like ~1-2mg in particular, or I guess possibly up to 4mg bupe, and ONLY if you use it via IV, I guess IM/SubC, and to about half the extent if you snort or boof it. EVEN THEN, its impact is debatable, not experienced by everyone, and even if it is noticeable, it's relatively marginal.

Bupe displaces full agonists, which causes precip WD if you're dependent. If you induce say 0.5mg of bupe via IV (~1.5mg or so sublingual equivalent), you also IV 125ug of naloxone. That means that (making up a fake number to show my point) if say 0.5mg IVed bupe alone would normally displace say 33% of receptor sites, if basically all your receptor sites were occupied by say oxycodone, it would cause (at least on "paper," experience isn't linear) 33% of the max precip WD causable by a full bupe replacement on your receptors.

By since only 33% of receptor sites would be displaced, that means the additional 125ug naloxone would have access to additional undisputed oxycodone-activated receptor sites, allowing the naloxone to in theory cause additional precip WD. And on paper, something like naloxone/naltrexone should cause worse precip WD symptoms than bupe, assuming they occupy exactly the same quantity of receptors.

Now it gets more complicated because it's not entirely clear if naloxone truly has a subjective threshold "requirement," or if such threshold is different when combined with bupe and a full agonist in a vacuum compared to just oxy and naloxone. Either way, according to at least one source I read, just ~0.2mg naloxone IVed is capable of causing precip WD, at least without bupe around.

Supposedly something like ~8mg bupe via SL use (or in theory ~24mg if taken orally via intact tablet/film without dissolving/being kept in the mouth), ~5-5.33mg snorted/boofed, or ~2.5-2.67mg IVed occupies ~80-90%+ of one's receptors, and that's assuming no previous bioaccumulation from previous doses. The more receptors are replaced with bupe instead of say oxy, the fewer receptor sites are conveniently available for naloxone. Once you reach ~90%+ bupe receptor saturation, pretty much all the conveniently available receptor sites that were either entirely empty of exogenous opioids or occupied by oxycodone have been replaced.

So just about any receptor sites that might have had oxycodone ripped off and replaced by naloxone, would in turn be ripped off and replaced by the bupe.

>tl;dr
naloxone in suboxone only really is even possible of making a difference if you're already physically dependent on a full agonist and therefore at risk of precip WD, only if your bupe doses are below 4mg sublingual equivalent (possibly below 6-8mg to a much lesser degree), and ONLY if you snort, boof, or inject suboxone. Snorting or boofing the naloxone portion of suboxone is only capable of causing roughly half the potential marginal WD as IVing it mg for mg, and even then it's less sudden.

Even then, we're talking such marginal effects. I personally didn't notice any difference between suboxone and subutex when dependent on PST in the past, whether subbed, snorted, or boofed.

1st time buying in like 10 years

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:30:07 EST OJKO2Dby No.613634
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Finally ran out of my 10 year old H stash that was before the time of fentanyl

Found a guy who normally deals in pharms who got me these, see below

Swears up, down, and sideways that it does NOT contain any fentanyl. I'm a brand new customer, I'm fairly sure he doesn't want me to die today, since I placed a huge pharm order for next week. Personally, i was under the impression that if it's in pebbles it's pretty safe, it's the powder that will fuck your shit up with fentalogues

Is that true, or....

Well, best question would be how can I be safe with these.
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Fuck Gemmerfet - Fri, 28 Feb 2020 05:59:48 EST 5yxkTbV8 No.613891 Reply
>>613889
I buy shit scales and say everyone must be the same and quote the thousands of dollars or pounds scale as real mg scales but you ise them fucking 20 DOLLAR, not even gbp, scales

Cheapo get what u deserve

Do I have to join a secret society to find H dealers?

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- Sun, 23 Feb 2020 20:38:17 EST N4RiHE14 No.613761
File: 1582508297957.jpg -(61470B / 60.03KB, 1112x1112) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Do I have to join a secret society to find H dealers?
Why is finding an H/fent dealer so much more difficult than it is to find any other drug dealer? It's like you gotta be part of a secret network or some shit. I understand less people fuck with it and it has a stigma but doesn't make it easier for buyers to find suppliers.

Tips and tricks? If allowed not sure if not sorry forget I said anything.
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Beatrice Decklepun - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:07:30 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613851 Reply
>>613775
I've literally seen some niggas saying that M boxes from mexico look bad because of the pill presses, but they are actually oxy.
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Hannah Greenwater - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 20:07:08 EST 6q3RPJUZ No.613871 Reply
>>613761
Lurker fag here
I work at a grocery store with an h dealer he gets the cocaine for me when I need it. Some random nog on campus offered me heroin . Idk where u located but heron be everywhere

Hydromet vs tussoinex

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:44:24 EST skqV9cir No.613825
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Title normally get monthly supply of tussoinex but pharmacy was all out what's the difference in these two any dosage differences normally take pussy levels of 15-20 ml of tussoinex. Just trying to chill and wat some movies and get better.
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 19:06:59 EST vgHBTjMI No.613867 Reply
>>613825
Hydromet is leagues better than Tussionex, assuming you have the traditional tussionex that is liquid yet still have a weird built in pseudo-XR/ER formula that takes at least 6 or so hours to fully absorb. Hydromet is, AFAIK, always instant release.

The other two major difference is that Tussionex is typically twice as potent per ml, usually 10mg hydrocodone bitartrate per 5ml of liquid (so 2mg/ml) vs. Hydromet's 5mg per 5ml, (1mg/ml), and the fact that each contains a different "anti-abuse" compunded chemical to discourage misuse/abuse. Hydromet contains again 5mg hydro, as well as 1.5mg homatropine methylbromide, per 5ml of syrup. Tussionex contains 10mg hydro and 8mg of chlorpheniramine.

Homatropine is an anticholinergic drug, remotely similar to benadryl but not quite. In high doses it can cause dizziness, drowsiness, fever, severe hallucinations (not the fun kind), confusion, general delirium, slurred speech and clumsiness, and fast HR.

Chlorpheniramine is a first generation antihistamine. Like homatropine, it also causes dry mouth, as they're both anticholinergic drugs. Side effects from high doses include drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, constipation, anxiety, nausea, blurred vision, restlessness, decreased coordination, dry mouth, shallow breathing, hallucinations, irritability, problems with memory or concentration, tinnitus and trouble urinating.

To this day, I haven't found a medical source directly comparing the potency of 1.5mg homatropine to 4mg (or 8mg, though arguably 4mg because it's 4mg cph per 5mg hydro) chlorphenamine, or which one is likely to reach severe negative side effects first. I will say though, having had the privilege to consume roughly ~1.5-1.7 bottles of hydromet and ~0.75-0.8 bottles of tussionex many many years ago, like almost 10 years maybe, that for me, hydromet was a much more enjoyable mix as long as your tolerance is low to moderate, so say like ~30-40mg for sure, maybe 50mg max, and you only dosed once per ~24-48 hours.

Homatropine is less shitty because it does not cross the blood-brain barrier, has a duration of action well under ~60 minutes, a half-life of just ~0.5-1.5 hours, and an oral bioavailability of just 25%. Meanwhile, chlorphenamine has a half-life of 13.9–43.4 HOURS. It's like a shitty hybrid of benadryl, the worst aspects of promethazine, and doxylamine. It's just horrible. And the fact it's semi-ER/XR makes it all that much worse.

Unless your tolerance is either super low or you have access to other opioids you can mix with like ~20, maybe 25-30mg of hydro XR's worth of tussionex, so that it can be consumed in doses of ~20-30mg XR (generally speaking, half as strong but twice as long, which rapes tolerance) or less, this stuff is generally not worth it. Even just ~16-24mg of cph can try you out and make you feel wonky. Whereas with hydromet, you can easily IME consume ~20-40 or maybe 50mg hydro IR, and if you feel shitty from more than ~20mg hydro, you can easily just wait ~30-60min after the first dose and drink ~20-30mg more, repeating this process until you get a solid buzz. Since homatropine has a shorter half-life than atropine, and atropine's duration of action is supposedly just ~30-60min with a ~2hr half-life, that means waiting as little as 30min might be long enough for almost half of the first dose's homatropine to wear off.

Even if you need say 120mg hydro to get high, and can only handle 40mg per hour without feeling delirious and shitty, having to wait 2hr to dose the whole total dose is still going to hit WAY harder than taking say 120mg hydro XR, lol.

Hydromet all the way baby. I never had side effect problems until I tried consuming 60ml at once along with 3 or 4 beers.

Am I technically sober with lope?

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:25:53 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.613828
File: 1582755953087.jpg -(30847B / 30.12KB, 720x573) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Am I technically sober with lope?
Today i woke up and decided to kick. Took clonidine, gabapentin, and Valium. My stomach was killing me though with aches. Decided to take 100mg of lope and it totally killed any withdrawal I was feeling. If I keep taking lope and then stop will i experience withdrawals again? I know it doesn't catch the blood brain barrier but i feel like I should be a lot sicker than I am and im 100% not sick at all right now and i do a gram of heroin a day.
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Phoebe Mummlepack - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 16:20:39 EST QUtz9SYl No.613857 Reply
>>613856
Damn. Are all opioid users this fuckin annoying? Does heroin just turn people into shitheads?
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:24:04 EST vgHBTjMI No.613863 Reply
>>613828
No, you're not sober. High dose/mega dose lope definitely passes through the BBB, even if it doesn't do so efficiently. You just don't feel high because your tolerance is so high. Your dependency level is indecipherably similar to what it was the day before you took lope, and could possibly have even gone up from what it was.

Never ever take over 24mg of lope in a day, period. Never take more than ~6-8mg at once, and always wait at least 30min per mg taken until you consider redosing, preferably 1hr per mg (e.g. if you take 4mg, wait 2-4hr to dose again...or if taking 6mg, wait 3-6hr etc.). If you're going to risk taking a full 8mg at once, IMO stick to doing so within ~30-60min of you waking up, or otherwise as the first dose of the day, and if taking two larger doses in a day, try to take them roughly 12 hours or so apart if you can.

Taking 100mg of fucking lope in one go will literally give you a heart attack eventually.

Noob helping non-noob

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- Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:02:01 EST RBBN/9yH No.613799
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Someone dear to me is going to try to kick their heroin addiction and I want to be there to help them thru it. What can I expect, how can I make it easier, aaaaaand will he not want to have sex during this time? 😥 your suggestions, please. Thank you.
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Fuck Chellerstock - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:16:38 EST HI0mv18t No.613860 Reply
>>613843
Lope for withdrawal is a terrible fucking idea though unless its literally your only option
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m - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:14:18 EST vgHBTjMI No.613862 Reply
>>613860
not really, no. Lope is just fine, quite safe, and effective. The issue is when people exceed about ~24mg in any one day, ~20mg/day for over like ~5-10 days, or over 16mg or so per day for a few weeks. It really only messes up the QT interval and heart health hardcore when people take megadoses of it. There's really no reason on Earth to exceed 24mg on any particular day, or 16mg/day once you're past day ~3-4.5 for short acting opis or day ~5-10 or so for methadone, strong PST/PPT, or possibly high dose subutex.

If you take 24mg (never all at once...always 4+ hours between 2-8mg doses) and it's still "not enough," stop taking lope and just force down some kratom, preferably in 00 capsules.

Taking fucking 100mg of lope like the OP in that other thread just delays the withdrawal and resets the dependency clock.

Using less water in a shot cause a better high

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:46:26 EST TYzQZ0jK No.613816
File: 1582739186028.jpg -(4477B / 4.37KB, 480x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Using less water in a shot cause a better high
Hey all, if I use less water in my shot of heroin will I feel it better? Like I mean when I draw up the water use less water so it's thicker will that cause a difference vs it being alot of water and the solution is basically clear?
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Wesley Cricklestone - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 19:03:31 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.613835 Reply
Its more concentrated but naw not really
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Angus Cungerdure - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:14:37 EST IxGcrMpY No.613845 Reply
Technically yes, the less solution to dope ratio and the faster you press the plunger, the quicker you can go from 0 to 60. Usually wont be able to tell though. Probably best to consider for first shot of the day, or one when you can get an actual rush.
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lol - Thu, 27 Feb 2020 04:37:43 EST oaWRMjn3 No.613849 Reply
>>613816
The speed at which you depress the plunger is already pretty damn quick so it really doesn't make a difference, used everything from 1ml to 10 and never noticed one.

opiate moviess

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- Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:51:05 EST vpYa5jdA No.613782
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What are some movies(or shows or whatever) that present a more accurate portrayal of opiate addicts? Pic somewhat related it was at least closer to reality to trainspotting.
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Shitting Fenningket - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:05:06 EST W90qOOis No.613824 Reply
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>>613793
but i bet u consume mick media without batting an eye, sheeple
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keep mad my fellas - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:59:26 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613826 Reply
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>>613824
You wish I consumed media, I only got a monitor in my house for gaming, PIRATED gaming mind you.

Mystery pain pill

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- Sat, 08 Feb 2020 00:48:06 EST T1tlQ74y No.613533
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What are these?
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Pandazie - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 19:18:16 EST aro+f/jm No.613760 Reply
>>613751
>>613751
>>613533
>>613533
Hey Thants you are wrong my friend, Show me proof they are 50mg BRO.... the 50s are orange and are not made by this brand, This brand only makes 5 and 10mg... u are thinking of the ones that say PMS on them... DO UR HW BUD b4 getting all butt hurt that ur wrong..
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038315
https://www.circlejerk.com/r/opiates/comments/5yr8ub/hey_just_found_these_was_told_they_are_morphine/
https://www.circlejerk.com/r/opiates/comments/8jz5s1/found_a_bunch_of_these_what_are_they/
I guess all these threads and posts from other people saying the same exact thing I said about the same exact pills are wrong tho and ur the right one... smh.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:53:02 EST +6pGU0e7 No.613820 Reply
>>61353 yeah I'm not wrong I'm confident in that. I don't have a script and the interwebs has a horrible database for showing Canadian drugs and generics. I know because I've take. The same damn pills and seen the script bottle. And if you're not op why TF do care so much.

Hey OP chime in here did you take the damn pills yet?

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