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Opiate induced seizures

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- Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:38:58 EST i8JQyrAc No.612486
File: 1575927538909.jpg -(104463B / 102.01KB, 806x679) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Opiate induced seizures
How many of ya'll have had seizures from pharma or street opiates? Do you have epilepsy or some other seizure disorder that the opiates aggravated? Or have you never had a seizure unless on opiates?
I've had eight seizures since i started with opiates. A couple from codeine and tramadol, one from opana, and the rest were from heroin/fentdope. Sometimes it happens before an overdose and sometimes i have the seizure and come back fine.
Trying to learn as much as i can about the subject, and google has been not much help
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:01:03 EST bfr2yuHE No.612497 Reply
I did not in any manner want to diminish is disregard your experience with seizures and opioids. All I meant to say was I have never heard of, known of anyone, or personally experienced seizures with opioids. I will have to look into this subject a bit more through some academic journals though.

I can report back with findings later this week when finals are over. Let me know.
lol - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:35:49 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612500 Reply

Never had one thank god, knock on wood. I have heard of it happening before especially with something like tramadol of course but the people I know of that had them were all people who were predisposed to or had some underlying condition that they didn't know about, id consider seeing a neurologist or whatever kind of doc specializes in those sort of things, definitely not something to fuck around with, I'd stay away from shit like tramadol for the foreseeable future and be mindful if on any medications and always check if there's any interactions listed on sites like drugs dot com

Kratom like Opiate?

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- Sat, 07 Dec 2019 07:43:52 EST QbQVpKvR No.612424
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Which strain of Kratom would be most similar to a Opiate high? Ran the strains down to Red Bali and Bentuangie. I'm really just trying to be able to feel the classic Opiate feel, but also don't want to fall instantly to sleep. Most people say Bali is most opiate like but knocks you out while Bentuangie is less potent but not ass sedating. Any Kratomdags can help me out here?
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Reuben Buzzworth - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 15:22:14 EST l/QqfqV/ No.612435 Reply

Strains absolutely do matter.

I'm SUPER well versed in the subject, so I can't offer much help.

I think white is kind of a mix in effects between red/green. Instead of 60/40 I would recommend something like 70/30 of Red Bali and some white strain to help keep you awake if you're that concerned about it.

Personally Red Bali doesn't really "knock me out", could be tolerance though.
Reuben Buzzworth - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 15:23:06 EST l/QqfqV/ No.612436 Reply

Meant to say I'm *NOT* super well versed in the subject lmao

Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 07:10:58 EST bfr2yuHE No.612498 Reply
This is purely my opinion and subjective experience, but every strain of Kratom always felt speedy to me. Reds felt the least speedy, yet would keep me up for hours upon hours itching in bed even with anti-histamines. Red vein Kratom always felt like a really dirty oxycodone high. My brains were scrambled: thinking was foggy, forgetting was common, and coherent sentences at larger doses were quite difficult to elucidate. Kratom would get me high as SHIT without me even intending to be high. I would just brew up a few grams, drink the shit over 30 minutes or less, and end up blitzed for several hours with a slow, gradual come up.

Unless something happens with my access to pharma opioids then I don't have much of a plan to use Kratom in the future. The shit was fine back in 2015/2016 and it was fine from 2018 to this past summer. I don't love Kratom though.

>also don't want to fall instantly to sleep
Literally never happened to me, not once. Although my tolerance for sedatives, broadly speaking, is likely higher than the average person—which fucking sucks. Bali is fine. Other reds always felt roughly the same. For me, it's either red, green, white, or a combination blend.

Whites are pretty stimulating. Greens were in between red and white strains. Regardless, all strains felt stimulating and produced an itch at least as bad as tramadol. Tramadol's itch, for me, is worse than morphine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, oxymorphone, opium, etc.

tl;dr red strains are the most sedating and the closest to classical opiates, but I wouldn't really say it's an exact replacement for your opiate of choice.

norco/tram/kratom abuse

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- Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:02:41 EST avugNXxp No.612394
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I recreationally abuse opiods

I normally buy 8 or so 5mg hydrocodones from my friends mom who sells them to me for 8 bucks.

im worried I might be leaning on having a problem but im not sure. so I could use advice. im worried I might be in denial

I use hydrocodone normally once a week maybe twice when im using a lot, and a couple times every two weeks when im not using that much. with doses of kratom in between as mild depression treatment to prop myself up and keep me going.

5mg wont make me feel shit
10 will give me a mood lift
15mg will have me feeling real good but not in nod territory
20mg will have me almost nodding
25-30mg will deff have me nodding for a while.

does that mean my tolerance is too high and im working on a legit opiod addiction? I also weigh 240lbs and am 6'4

Im not dope sick or shaking or puking without it or anything, but im starting to crave it quite a bit. But im pretty sure its because it numbs my pain and makes me content. makes me feel human enough to even be able to cry. and I feel like theres a warm blanket around me like everything is okay like mammas arms around you.
I suffer severe depression without it too, to the point I cannot function . and opis just make me do so much better. I function when I take them I can be social if im not at a retarded high nodding dose and people don't notice im high.

….im not proud of this but sometimes to make the depression go away, ill steal tramadols from my grandma and my mom

am I just self medicating, or am I a full blown addict in denial?
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Molly Suttingson - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:27:43 EST l/QqfqV/ No.612482 Reply

I do occasionally and see the retarded amount of drugs he's on, which obviously contributes to his rambling and superiority complex


I don't respond cause you're fucking insane and I literally don't care enough to lmao
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:51:10 EST bfr2yuHE No.612494 Reply
Same here, unfortunately. I'm not anti-heroin, but fuck knows I don't want to waste any money on copping street H that's cut to fuck with street fent. Fuck that.

>motherfuckers looking to cop the stamp that killed whoever
Fucking amen. The moment people here about a small time dealer or local stamp causing ODs then it's game fucking on for users, cutters, and dealers.

Shit blows my mind. I'll stick to pharma opiates as long as possible. Until H has a cleaner track record and profile there's next to no way in hell I will intentionally cop a point of fentadope.

I don't think Mario's insane by any means. Dude posts up plenty of relevant information and harm reduction materials.
Barnaby Mimmlestone - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 02:50:05 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612495 Reply
He might be a little insane per doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Not that makes him any less of a person or respectable or whatever.

Bump While Nodding (BWN): A Thread of Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 16:01:04 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612110
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You know what to do: bump when on opioids.

15mg diazepam, 15mg hydrocodone, 100mg hydroxyzine, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine.

I might end up taking more diazepam and hydrocodone (possibly a couple 50mg tramadol and 0.5mg alprazolam for synergy) later on.
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BlinkeyBill - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 20:36:52 EST KaryZL0Y No.612488 Reply
It seems like it's one set of rules for Australians and the rest of the world. It's hard out Here, but it be ya own nibbas
Dextrolord - Tue, 10 Dec 2019 01:50:52 EST t9+obISS No.612493 Reply
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sooo my buddy came by for some mushrooms and now has a subutext script soo now I am on subutext for the week pretty much BWN


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- Fri, 06 Dec 2019 22:07:22 EST l/QqfqV/ No.612408
File: 1575688042320.jpg -(27496B / 26.85KB, 828x647) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. trade
Does four 30mg Adderall for four 10mg hydrocodone sound like a decent trade? I'm 100% more of an opiate guy and the dude im trading with is a stim guy. Just want some reassurance I'm not getting burned too hard.

I usually sell them to him for $8 a piece, I'm not sure what the street price for hydros usually is.
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Lillian Clapperput - Fri, 06 Dec 2019 23:23:14 EST 2QeInTF0 No.612411 Reply
IME opi's are worth way more than stims. Both in personal preference and local market value.
>rustbelt BTW
Vicodin sucks but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:00:55 EST bfr2yuHE No.612417 Reply
OP - hydros used to go for $0.33 to $0.50 per milligram or less for most of my time with drugs. Over the last couple of years it’s been pretty common to see hydros sell for $0.75 to $1 per milligram. Oxycodone prices rose as well, but not as much IME.

I don’t get the hate for hydrocodone. I’ve been taking the drug off/on for a decade.
Yeah, it’s less stimulating than oral oxycodone and less sedating than morphine, but the functionality makes the drug rather practical. If APAP is the issue a CWE is a relatively quick and easy process.
Barnaby Mimmlestone - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:40:22 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612491 Reply
Hc is great unless you have a lofty tolerance, even then like 5-10mg hc would make my day if i took it with my daily poppy tea.

you might be hardcore but

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- Mon, 09 Dec 2019 01:20:39 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612475
File: 1575872439085.jpg -(81989B / 80.07KB, 1200x800) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. you might be hardcore but
you're not inject yourself through your sweater hardcore.
lol - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:30:33 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612479 Reply

Lmao I've seen dude's do this before. Probably laziness/weakness from wd plus living on the street. I remember hearing this dude's socks like fused into his wound on his foot while he was homeless and never changed em for an insanely long time, wonder if something similar could happen on the upper body, figure with the feet it's more due to pressure and shit, man fuck being homeless. That shit should be enough (in theory but it never is) to get motherfuckers to smarten up.
Nigel Socklesock - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:27:15 EST PYdBNz2E No.612485 Reply
Bro he's black thats racist he cant see a vein for shit

I don’t know what to do with these (clown edition)

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- Sat, 07 Dec 2019 11:26:27 EST d5zetJYT No.612430
File: 1575735987233.jpg -(1466134B / 1.40MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I don’t know what to do with these (clown edition)
Found old shakers I stashed was prescribed never took them. Best way too take? No eating.
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Hugh Dollyfoot - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 16:03:43 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612484 Reply
Good thing oxy works well when you eat it. When you eat dilaudid, you waste like 90% of it, when you sniff it you waste like 60%. Oxy isnt really worth shooting but hm is, just sayin.
lol - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:53:16 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612487 Reply

This is the truth, you did ask for the best way to do it and that definitely is, I'm assuming plugging is next but I have no experience with that sort of stuff. If you don't really shoot up or put stuff up your ass then next best thing is to short it
Barnaby Mimmlestone - Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:36:45 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612489 Reply
Unlike plugged morphine, plugged dilaudid is a crapshoot, its arguably as wasteful as snorting, albeit a different type of buzz

Puking on heroin

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- Sun, 08 Dec 2019 21:47:42 EST a9inRNzU No.612463
File: 1575859662547.jpg -(3877740B / 3.70MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Puking on heroin
Is puking just part of the fun? I've always struggled with nausea when using heroin, but only recently started smoking it and it's projectile madness.

I don't have terrible nausea on any other opiate, and I'm not a big puker, but for some reason the Horse brings it out of me.

Is this normal or am I just smoking too much at a time?
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Hugh Dollyfoot - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 23:20:08 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612468 Reply
Heroin lasts a few hours, fent lasts like 20 minutes, so consider that in your dosing, even a tiny bit of fent is very potent and short. Fent also has little euphoria so no matter how much you do, you might not get what youre chasing
lol - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 23:20:39 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612469 Reply

Idk what people mean about fent making you sicker? I've never heard of that, you take too much of any opi like that and you're gonna puke.
lol - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 23:30:11 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612470 Reply

Oh I'm assuming people mean because of how much stronger it is it's much easier to dose too much therefore making you more likely to puke?

Oral fentanyl and analogs onset

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- Sun, 08 Dec 2019 19:46:12 EST jlys2nWj No.612462
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Oddly can't find oral fentanyl or fentanyl analogs onset online. Wondering what those would be and also wondering when the "peak" would be reached. Thanks.

Poppy seed Tea

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- Sat, 07 Dec 2019 08:23:43 EST QbQVpKvR No.612427
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Eliza Brookwater - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:46:34 EST QbQVpKvR No.612454 Reply
Any better guides out there? I want to do this but I also don't want to die/od of course
Augustus Brorrystock - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:23:37 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612455 Reply
If you cant find a good guide you should not do it
dr. m - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:25:53 EST LOk04uH3 No.612456 Reply

The PST threads here arbitrarily get insta banned/deleted, assuming we're talking a thread that provides advice outside the most basic stuff ever, with said definitely "acceptable" information being not even remotely sufficient for attempt T consumption.

If you want advice or group discussion on opioids or PST use in general, I suggest clicking the official 420chan discord link at the top of the page, making an account and then scrolling down the userlist until you find me, DrMario. No, I will not provide you sources. Please do not ask for such. But we can definitely get a good safe harm reduction discussion going. Feel free to message me and/or post in the #drugs channel.

Kirt himself said that his Patreon masters, who are basically the only reason financially speaking 420chan can exist in the first place to begin with, aren't okay with actual PST making discussion, as it's essentially manufacturing a Schedule 2 substance on paper, at least in the USA. However, in practicality, I don't know of even one single federal, state, or local charge for manufacture S2 over PST, particularly personal amounts.

Regardless, we should just talk in the official discord as a group instead, again following the same exact no sourcing rules we have here. The more I know about the nature/general vague origin of your product and your tolerance, the more accurate info I can give you.

Hope to talk to you or anyone else there. I'm not interested in writing helpful in depth walls of text that end up getting indirectly locked/removed within a week.

Sublingual Fentanyl

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- Sun, 08 Dec 2019 00:30:48 EST ATf1DnkU No.612443
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I got my hands on a couple of Abstral 100ug sublingual tablets. I've never tried fentanyl, but I have a fairly high opiate tolerance.

If I pop one of these under my tongue and let it dissolve, will I get any euphoria, or should I just snort them?
lol - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 01:17:47 EST IggaRoSW No.612445 Reply

I don't even get cravings for opis anymore really but I'm still jealous as fuck just for the novelty, where are you from and how did you come across these? Assuming a sick person's script. I'd try snorting em, you never know when you're gonna run into fentanyl that isn't in patch form again. Good way to accurately dose it too. What's your tolerance like?
Jack Punderpadge - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 07:21:31 EST qpQEnKh1 No.612447 Reply
I'm in Sweden and I see these pretty often. About 15-25 dollars for a 100ug pill. Less if you know the correct people. I dose 60mgs of oxy.
dr. m - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 14:18:18 EST LOk04uH3 No.612449 Reply

Definitely 100% snort them, as fent BA (efficiency) is ~89%, whereas buccal (on gums) is 50%. Sublingual should be near 50%, if not slightly higher. If you want them to work really well, figure out how many total you need for a "dose," crush them up and then dissolve that number of tablets in ~0.3-.75ml of water in a tiny container. Then after swishing it around and letting it sit for ~5-10 minutes, use a tiny piece of cotton ball that you get wet with NORMAL water first, and suck the fent solution up into a 1ml oral (no needle) syringe. Then squirt half of the liquid up each nostril.

Then you can either add a tiny bit of water and try to do some kind of "rinse" on what's left in the container, but what I suggest is simply dump any leftover filler and the tiny, tiny piece of cotton you used to filter the pills, all under your tongue for sublingual.

This way, all the extracted liquid gets 80% BA, and any leftover residue or any left in the filter/binders still gets absorbed sublingually like normal.

Why not snort the raw pills you ask? each pill only contains 0.1mg of active ingredient, yet the entire pill itself probably weights 20-50mg or more. That's like if you snorted 0.5% pure heroin, or heroin that was 0.5% heroin and 99.5% filler. It's not going to absorb very well that way.

Can you snort 5mg IR oxy?

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- Fri, 06 Dec 2019 06:09:40 EST CiTAR1LH No.612398
File: 1575630580536.jpg -(4255528B / 4.06MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can you snort 5mg IR oxy?
I have a couple of 5mg endones, are these going to be any good at all up my nose? Pretty low tolerance, as in pretty much none
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Charles Pickgold - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:32:36 EST 1JTkEXlh No.612448 Reply
Sweet, just remember. If you find it disappointing imagine how shit snorting it and feeling less would be lol

Eat fatty snack 15min after oral opis to increase bioavaliability

How too make Suboxone stronger?

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- Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:20:19 EST hWTrikN5 No.612385
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I’m prescribed suboxone 8mg films and I wanna know how too get the most out of them. Or has anyone figured out how too remove the naxolone from them?
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Sidney Cronderhall - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 06:36:19 EST yMlqvC8B No.612423 Reply
Of course OP is retarded just look at his picture..
Drunkjunk - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 16:16:47 EST i8HQdmap No.612438 Reply
That shit about 5.7mgs zubsolv being equal to 8mgs suboxone is total bullshit. My doc switched me from 16mgs suboxone daily to 11.4mgs zubsolv and i had the worst withdrawals of my life. By day four or five i still had wd symptoms even after taking my daily dose of zobsolv. Had to switch back immediately.
dr. m - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 20:19:48 EST LOk04uH3 No.612441 Reply
rectal/nasal use via liquid is best if u dont IV, followed by sublingual using the mouthwash prep method... 2mg nasal/rectal is equal to about 3mg sublingual w/ mouth wash, or ~3.5 to maybe even 4mg normal sublingual if dont keep yourself from swallowing them.

Methadone 10mg

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- Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:41:56 EST QsgmL1hP No.612221
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Im getting 3 of these pretty soon.

Ive never had methadone or even heroin before.

Can you inject these? I take vicodin and snort percs sometimes but i want a stronger high.

Im wondering what the high is like and how i should take them
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Nell Bunridge - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:57:09 EST W7fR+003 No.612268 Reply
'done is long and strong but it is not as fun as opiates. It is euphoric and feels almost like morphine, but there is a reason people choose heroin over it. I've never really loved methadone buzzes, for me they've always got the job done but never awesome like opiates.
I've never shot methadone but it is strong orally, like oxy is (dont snort percs bruh only roxis). Maybe iv methadone makes all the difference. If its a one time thing you could get away with shooting them sans micron filter, although shooting pill binders is worse than aids for you.
Whats your go to doses of hydrocodone and oxy?
Ebenezer Shittingford - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 04:10:48 EST xFheNylU No.612381 Reply
If you weren’t aware, the 10 mg tablets are in my experience
not equivalent to a 10mg dose of methadose. Don’t expect to be taking 100mg right off rip. Even with a tolerance, 5mg methadone tablet may be quite strong. And between the longer-onset but long-acting nature of methadone and the potential oral route, it could take 2-3 hours to really feel what’ in you, so make sure you give the drug time to work before you add onto your dose.
lol - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:24:34 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612420 Reply

Everyone at the clinic says this shit too, that when they end up at st marys detox or hospital and get their dose somewhere they only have pills they actually catch a buzz off it, I wonder if that thing about feeling your drugs more in different environments or whatever the fuck has to do with it. I was laid up in the hospital a few days recently and didn't feel any difference, if anything it sucked having to down 12 pills instead of just drinking a little liquid.

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