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Suboxone by Dr. Katz - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:21:48 EST ID:3iv//5Xw No.572809 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Cross post from /benz/
Drank 10 oz. WGFJ 30 min before taking 20mg diazepam, 0.5mg alprazolam, & 10mg cyclobenzaprine
Debating on taking 2-4mg suboxone. Only had it once before when I was already blackout drunk, on clonazepam/lorazepam/cyclobenzaprine, and continued drinking. Was sick for 3 days after -- July 2nd to the 5th. Unknown dosage, but the pills were massive compared to the 2mg/0.5mg ones I have now. I assume the others were a much higher dosage since a quarter fucked me up and came from a previous roommate's girl who had a major daily opiate habit.

I know that the booze/benzos/muscle relaxers didn't help my case, but is that abnormal when taking subs without an opiate habit? I dabble with oxys and hydros every few months. I can take up to 20mg oxycodone + booze + benzos and I'm solid. I've had up to 35mg hydrocodone + a pint of whiskey + benzos before as well. I've never taken more than that at once before. Been on and off RX'd hydros/tramadol since 2009 for various injuries (less than 1 30 count script a year). I tolerate all opiates well. Plenty of RX'd codeine and tussinex as well throughout my life.

So, /opi/, thoughts? Abnormal reaction? Bad idea? I won't be drinking at all.
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JJzz !HOZlQYR1MY - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:41:31 EST ID:+gsnuhcq No.572920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572809

If you can stomach standard script opiates alright you **should** be ok with .5mg, but any more than that is SERIOUSLY playing with fire given the benzos/cyclobenzaprine in the mix.

I was on sub maintenance for almost a year averaging at 2mg/day, and I caught a buzz almost every single day even switching over from a half bundle/30mg Opana daily habit. This was with no benzos involved.

Fast forward to last summer, a year after I got off subs and stopped taking opiates altogether, I was gifted a TINY crumb, like .25mg at most for giving someone a ride, and I snorted it after taking 1mg XanaX, which was a normal, barely recreational dose for me at that time. After it kicked in fully I was literally nodding so hard I blacked out for the better part of two hours, and came to in my computer chair with drool all over myself ( a sign of severly depressed breathing)

Moral of the story: start with .25mg, maybe bump up to .5 total if you must but expect to be righteously fucked up given all the other factors
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:08:50 EST ID:egPHfrW3 No.572922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572920
ended up taking 0.5mg 9 hours after dosing 20mg diazepam and 0.5mg alprazolam for actual anxiety. The 0.5mg came on slow and smooth. Had two meals and two glasses of scotch over a 4+ hour period. Ended up taking another 0.5mg 4.5 hours after the initial dosage. I wasn't drunk, nodding, or benz/d when I took the 2nd dose.

Ended up nodding for maybe 20 minutes tops. Then, I just was itchy and stimulated. I'll have to get some hydroxizine if I plan to take that dosage again all at once (1mg total). But honestly, I didn't see much recreation potential when adding on the 2nd dosage. Oh well.
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JJzz !HOZlQYR1MY - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:32:02 EST ID:+gsnuhcq No.572923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572922


glad to hear it went alright. Quick question: are you using the strips sublingually or snorting the generic tablets? not only is nasal BA higher for buprenorphine, I find it comes on much faster and feels more "authentic" when snorted. If you have the strips, you can actually prep them for nasal use super easily: Just take a 3ml oral syringe, ( the kind one would use for plugging,) backload the cut up strip pieces, add a ml or so of warm water, shake, and sniff away
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:14:50 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572922
You should start with the bupe then take benzos once it's built up; it should be both safer and more intense that way. If they're strips you can always take them rectally for higher BA and a faster onset.
I wouldn't expect severe side effects below 2mg (though you should always be careful), personally I'd say you should be safe enough to start with 1.5mg, wait an hour then slowly sub some benzos.
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:53:32 EST ID:U7LcEOEN No.572933 Report Quick Reply
be careful taking benz and opi, and extra careful if you add alcohol to it.

i subbed 2mg (1mg, then 45 mins later the other 1mg), and ended up throwing up for 7 hours. Obviously I puked everything up the first go, but i spent the rest of it dry heaving like every 30 seconds. shit sucked so much lol.

bupe isnt as euphoric as other opis either. youre prolly fine taking 1mg, maaaybe 1.5mg. it lasts a while so if you overdo it youre stuck with it for a while (naloxone to reverse bupe is a pain in the ass). mind your benz habit too.


I invite you to sign these kratom petitions by Fooking Nagger - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:47:30 EST ID:ewnHpfzG No.572898 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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  1. http://www.petitiontrumpforkratom.org
  2. https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/do-not-place-kratom-on-the-schedule-substance-list

""
With the Opioid Addiction Epidemic growing at ever increasing speed, taking a natural herb away that is used responsibly by 3-5 million Americans is wrong. Kratom has been shown to help people overcome opioid addiction without side effects like respiratory depression.
Americans Kratom consumers are generally more concerned with their overall health after starting Kratom. They eat healthier, exercise more, and make better Lifestyle choices.

The United States was founded to be The Land Of the Free. Taking away our most basic Human Right, the Right to Choose our own Health Care is un-American
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Barnaby Cropperhatch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:12:23 EST ID:76DuEQ0D No.572914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572900
>>572911
quit being a fuck. there's reason to believe kratom has agonist-antagonist properties preventing the respiratory depression a la suboxone which would explain why people hugely addicted to opiates can't get high off it. your posts are just full of opinions and "stop liking what i don't like"
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Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:31:17 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572911

fucking between you and that martha faggot, get off your high horse

who the FUCK cares?

you're so god damned angry about people using a drug they like because it doesn't work for you?

the petty ass behavior behind those opiate users that look down on those who also use kratom is disgusting, you're like the IVers who think anything who doesnt use the needle is a pussy.

what the fuck is up with this board recently and all the anti-kratom shit lmao, it's the dumbest shit I've seen on here since the whole PST hate (which is ironically now the norm here).
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:54:03 EST ID:MCpre7x/ No.572921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572900
Do you also rag on people who smoke or drink and say shit like "dude there are so many other better drugs than nicotine and alcohol. just let the government regulate it. lol fuck you"
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Archie Gongerson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:11:41 EST ID:T5sM0W5p No.572930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572921
>>572918
>>572914
yeah you guys are absolutely 100% not addicted and everybody else is just wrong
it's time for therapy, seriously
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:41:43 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572930
Are you going to make any constructive posts at all? I wish I could get high off kratom or other weak opioids.

Grow up.


KRATOM-BUCHA by Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:03:15 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572717 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Alright yall, I'm onto something here. I just want to make a few things clear first:

  1. I don't know shit about chemistry. Anything I claim is anecdotal and more than likely completely inaccurate.
  2. This is only proven by my experiences, nobody else.
  3. I've tried and confirmed this method around 10 times already and I know it FOR SURE does something to potentiate the active alkaloids.
  4. I know kratom is hated on here, and I know you guys love to shit on my favorite herb but seriously, this method makes it on PAR with morphine and the heavy opiates along those lines. I am not exaggerating at all. Taking it this way feels around 2-3 times as potent and literally on par with 10-15 morphine IV'ed no tolerance. My friend (who just got off heroin) says the one time i gave him this it legit felt like he took a few oxys and said it was on par with a lot of opiates he's done.


SO, to start off, you will need:

Orange Juice
Kratom
Honey or something with sugar (optional)
A fridge
Patience
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Martha Dirrytig - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:08:39 EST ID:cwwzq/KV No.572805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've got a strong feeling op is one of those people that read a wiki article and now knows everything about everything and uses his buzzwords to prove it.
Op you're actually retarded.

If you want to actually get a real opi high, take a real opi.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:19:45 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572737

the schedules status so far looks to be in the clear, they're trying to ban it in florida but that's easy to bypass. I have a stash that'd last at least 5 years so if tht started to get low, I'd consider Canada.

I never expected people to fight so hard to keep this herb legal, its awesome. Really made me do a 360 on my opinion on the whole subject.

>>572746

Dude, thank you for this. I had no idea about the h2O2 thing. Instead of OJ I will try your method and see how it goes!

Already have 2 test subjects lined up, one uses heroin infrequently (1-2 a week) and maintains on suboxone in between. The other has been off H for a couple months but uses kratom pretty often as a maintenance drug. So I'll do a double blind with them and see how it goes.

As far as fungus and stuff goes, I'm honestly not too concerned about that as:

  1. The acidic and cold environment seems like an unlikely place for any culture to form in the time I do soak it.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:26:01 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572805


How about you go home, put up your crumbling office chair under a banister or something, tie a cool little knot through it (you know how to tie shoes, right retard?) and wear it like a necklace, then jump off? How does that sound bud?

Seriously wish I was as real]/i] as you mane, using all those real opiates.

Take that strong feeling and please refer back to the first part of my post. Its like you didn't even read my OP and went off on a tangent because you saw something you disagreed with, oh wait!
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:44:52 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Has peroxide ever been used with kratom before? There's always the small chance of it creating a side-product you don't want to consume or simply neutralising the mitragynine in the kratom. I've never bothered much with kratom chemistry having ready and cheap access to pods (as well as H and now being on a methadone script which, being in the UK; costs me nothing and doesn't restrict temporary movement between other countries) has always stopped me from bothering with kratom.

The chance of you brewing dangerous (actually dangerous as opposed to shit your guts out uncomfortable) microbes growing in your kratom is low though you should definitely be careful of that too. As has already been said; it's unlikely that you're fermenting anything though there won't be air trapped inside plant cells; not in significant quantities anyway; if there is excess air venting from the bottle it's most likely being generated by bacteria/fungal life forms respiring anaerobically. You could always stick a balloon on top of the bottle and see if a significant amount of CO2 is being produced. If you want to check if it is CO2; empty the balloon into a boiling tube and see if it'll extinguish a lit splint. Putting a lit splint out isn't CO2 exclusive (any gas can do it) though the only gasses (normally) generated by microbes (outside of sewers) is CO2 or O2; CO2 will extinguish a lit splint and O2 will cause a smouldering splint to re-light.

I'd love to hear more about this OP, on accounts of kratom not being a very potent opioid it isn't very popular and people rarely do stuff with kratom compared to other /opi/s.


>>572729
20 hours is pretty impressive for seeds, I always found that pods had a maximum duration of 16 hours on a good day, as such I'd dose in the morning and dose in the evening every day, consuming about 1kg/week.
How many kilos of seeds do you normally use? Can you compare their potency to other opiates?
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Archie Gongerson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:09:30 EST ID:T5sM0W5p No.572929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572916
well, that just proved everything said above


BWN - new year, new veins by Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:42:28 EST ID:2Y6vqw0i No.572306 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post about drugs that attack your opioid receptors and how you abuse them

Hydromorphone
Oxycodone
Codeine
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:47:20 EST ID:DaNrQylo No.572892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572860
good too see you backk bro. hope your family siutuation is going pretty well and life is good and drug sitaution kinda too haha lol
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:28:20 EST ID:egPHfrW3 No.572901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572889
Cross-post from /benz/
Drank two glasses of scotch on the rocks with a 5mg diazepam 2 hours after dosing.

Just took another 0.5mg suboxone as I'm not drunk, benz'd, or nodding. It has been 4.5 hours since I first dosed the 0.5mg sub.
Drinking plenty of tea and have had almost a gallon of water today (not out of the norm, really). Had two cups of ginger tea. Now, I'm sipping on what's left of the ginger tea combo'd with a Kava tea packet. Debating on taking 0.25mg-0.5mg alprazolam and a 10mg diazepam. Hmmmm... Probably won't. I'll wait another hour until the sub hits along with the Kava tea and see. I'll probably just be sleepy and won't want to waste my RX'd benzos.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:35:00 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.572908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just took a few 5mg diazepam and about half an hour ago I did a shot of h + methylphenidate. benzos just kicking in now, should smooth things out nicely.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:36:24 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.572909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572908
apologies for the double post. This one with be a no bump though as the shot I'm prepping is just 20mg of methylphenidate by itself, so no opi/heroin in there this time. Still should synergise with the h speedball I mentioned in my previous post as well as the diazepam I'm feeling surprisingly well - yay for my currently low benz tolerance! Ah drugs... you're just so much fun. How will I ever quit you? I'll think about that, uh, later, hah!

love ya /opi/, my fav board 4lyf
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:00:37 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seeds finally fucking came! Woo! Will be high soon! Already consumed, just waiting on the come up! Bwn!


Kratom widtdrawals by Sophie Dartworth - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:17:52 EST ID:QH6B7I4X No.572807 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was taking like 3-8 grams per day for the past six months and just ran out by accident.
3 days without so far and withdrawals are very mild. Just like a minor common cold so im considering just stopping for a while.
Even got the delivery by now and its literally no problem to not use it.

All I can say I was almost as comfy as when I used to do tramadol daily and in comparison the withdrawals are a joke

WHY THO? The internets brought up some horror stories when researching it.

>Is Kratom really this much of a godsent?
>Does switching the "strain" every few days really work? (I did this)
>is that dose just really low and Im lucky my tolerance is a joke?
>or is the worst yet to come??
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:32:12 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572807
the amount youre taking isnt enough to cause really bad w/ds. also switching the strain doesnt reduce w/d but it can help if the kratom youve been taking isnt doing the job anymore sometimes a different strain can still feel good.
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Rebecca Fuckingville - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 10:37:03 EST ID:EcPvBtLQ No.572852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572811
I have done way way more than this guy, like couple ounces a day...so yeah like 32 gram a day habit for a few months.

I think it really just depends on the person. That, and it really is all relative like some of these "horror stories" you have to keep in mind are idiot kids looking for legal highs then freaking out once they realized they're taking an opioid. Most of it is all in your head. No really once you start panicking and don't know what is going on or will happen is why things suck so hard. Like, think of 2girls1cup. Part of why it is such an awful experience is you're not paying attention to it being 60 seconds long or what to expect. Worth repeating? Lolno but it's not as bad as you expect.

See there's a reason Kratom WDs are routinely called mild it's because they are to most normal adults. Even 8 grams a day for months on end you should be fine. It honest to God feels more like a bad coffee habit and I have gotten incredibly sick from caffeine overdose as well as being so hooked on it I was fucked up for 3 days, but you don't hear me whining about how terrible caffeine is.

I'm not discounting the various experiences of others I mean again every body is different, but by the by Kratom is basically nothing. You need either super sensitive biology or a really massive really long habit to truly be bothered by it. Once you drop down from usual pharm or street narcotics to where Kratom really works well getting off is close to painless. Muscle cramps, insomnia, maybe a few other issues plus craving and discomfort but if you really want to stop it's not in the same league not even the same fucking game as alcohol, tobacco, benzos, real opiates, meth etc.

I severely believe that a lot of these people complaining are both very young and very inexperienced, the kind of idiot you would find on /del/ or /other/ asking about robotripping, huffing, drinking isopropyl alcohol or orange extract on /hooch/ because theyre 16 and then at age 19 going on /detox/ to whine about how tough it is quitting their weed addiction. Again I'm not wholly discounting it, just that I sincerely believe the problem is total lack in perspective. Like "…
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Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:40:11 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
like previous posters said, its the dosage along with the person.

if you have problems with mental addiction, you will have problems with this. You might not get WD symptoms as any severe as a cold but the cravings could be as strong as any other opiate if you have the mentality for it.

But kratom WD compared to anything else is pretty much a joke if you're in the right headspace. It's seriously nothing when you're om like 10-12 grams a day. Back when I was doing 30+ a day it made me fiendy but still not as bad as (other posters are now putting it) "REAL" opiates.

Enjoy it while it lasts, keep your dosage low (never exceed 8 grams a day) and enjoy.

As far as why, nobody really knows but they suspect they're an agonist-antagonist relationship going on between the alkaloids. If you isolate a single alkaloid, it would probably behave no differently than your traditional opi. Theres not many of us on here, but me and a few others are pretty experienced with the plant so don't be scared away by the faggots who get butthurt anytime theres a kratom thread.
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Phineas Claydock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:53:44 EST ID:bgkYojzB No.572927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572807
i've only gone through kratom withdrawal once, and while it was quite mild physically, and a joke in that sense to PST withdrawals, it left me far more depressed the first few days that PST withdrawal ever did. It was really weird. Might have to do with the fact that i prefer my kratom for /stim/, so I mainly used white and green strains, and usually just had red at night, a couple of hours before bed. I don't know, just guessing. it was really bad depression though, and I was acutely aware of it yet unable to change anything. Weird shit.


PST/PPT General Thread 4.0 by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:54:55 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571991 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Wow 1503+ posts of getting high af. Shout out to the anon who made version 1.0 of this thread.

You know what to do. This thread is ALL things poppy. PST, PPT, flake opium, mystery goo (what should I do?), memes nobody else understands, irrelevant political images, softcore fat black women nobody wants to see in private let alone be seen by others viewing said women at work/school (really man? really?), weeaboo shit (sigh...ohhhhhkay), topics related to the two or three posters actually qualified or smart enough to converse about flake opium production (but really please do it's so intriguing, and if you're not one of the two of three keep trying anyways and get back to us!), and of course legal/policy discussion. (Seriously, I'm ready to discuss poppy seed and pod regulation; I have my sources and constructive arguments mentally organized, finally, and would love to hear counterarguments from other academics/intelligent laymen).

If you post a pst question somewhere else about any of these things, chances are it's in the wrong place Unless you're a speedballing StimLion, then yeah your beautiful weeb contributions to this board (never stop doing you, live and let live, I guess) probably does belong in the BWN or elsewhere, not here (simply because you're not a PxT guy).

If it's ANYTHING poppy, ask it in here.

Enjoy your morphine with the tiniest dash of codeine and other goodies that makes every bag like smoking a new strain of mystery hybrid weed. It's been five and a half long ass grueling days [%]before this not-so-anon anon expected a last minute piss test related to getting scripted benzs and tl;dr my southern doc delayed the process by reccomending xanax or equivalent in writing to my new northern doctor(s) without actually scripting me anything, so I got nothing tangible in return for the horrible wait and I now feel like garbage and had no chance to dose up all day until after my flight landed,
so I surely will in just a bit.

If anyone is concerned, mildly interested, or has side bets as to whether I'll ever get clean/get better/get divorced/begin shooting smack/eventually die of an OD, I'm actually getting monitored medical help now (GP, MD Psychiatrist, possibly MD addiction/maintenance specialist) and my life has 180'd for the better even while being encouraged to stay on this stuff, for now. My wife's happy, I'm happy, so life is good. But I have to prove the changes I seek through future effort and action.

Anyways, less about me, MORE about you! Lurk forever but afraid to come out and get involved? Be a Trip in our own containment thread! We're one big happy pesticide pouring, goat-shit guzzling family ! We need more people to provide their life stories for entertainment, something the marginalized or isolated people can relate to or resonate with, and to get me the fuck out of the spotlighting in our corner of the universe. If you're committed to being an anon for life, please at least stop by and post hello when you read this thread! If you're high and usually post in the BWN, atleast post here first and then in the BWN so that the BWN remains on top while we accumulate post counts that reflect the level of seed/pod/puddy/straw consumption that's actually consumed by our micro community.

Got a bunk bag? Sipping on some fire brew? Let us know, in acronyms, where and when (expiration dates) your source is from! Please do it here and not on the great winding River market. That will be the death of us. If you must, rate 5 stars and don't use any words.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 03:26:36 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572839
oh man. i personally would noooot rewash after an hour i have a couple times in the past when i was desperate but its bad. They probably havent actually gone bad after just an hour or two but they smell and taste soo bad after sitting for even a short time. I just cant handle the smell and taste after theyve been washed and let sit for awhile, they get so rancid its gnarly and i cant deal with it. you might be onto something with freezing them though. Freezing them after the first or second wash and then rewashing with warm soda or whatever you like to use might make it easier to get the last bits of opis without also getting so much of the fats and oils. I may try freezing some seeds before i wash them at all and then freezing a different batch after the first wash to see if it makes any difference in flavor next time i get some.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:52:42 EST ID:RNsyV50Z No.572895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572841
Rewashes after an hour then rigorouss boil for like 10-15 minutes to kill off all those microgarasms. This works ssewell because they don't have the pbiological mass to cause issue and it kills everything. like i said, you can do a rewash afterl ike 5hours as long as you boil it for 10 straight minutes before drinking.

protip;: pasteuraize then refidgetate your PST for long term storage
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Shit Wivingdock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:38:56 EST ID:Z/zcrnFU No.572912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've left all of my seeds in the bag they come in directly on top of a very hot radiator for close to 24 hours, have I fucked them? )':
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:36:18 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572912
As long as it didn't melt you should be good. Morphine is pretty stable and doesn't degrade from heat much really.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:47:13 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My seeds have been out for delivery since fucking 8 am. It is now 1:45 pm and I'm starting to get pissed they aren't here yet...like wtf USPS??


This is actually a /needles/ post so I'm gonna stereotype you guys with this question by Martin Turveywill - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 18:56:45 EST ID:rhDl1as1 No.572874 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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this is about a dissociative but nobody on /dis/ really uses needles anymore; I'm assuming this board has more needle users than any other board, so, bear with my assumptions please :^)

I've got shards of ketamine, not powder. There is no added filler to this stuff, the only impurities would be potential leftover reactants from whoever made the stuff (and whatever bacteria exists). The vendor mentions that it's "97%" pure.

How dangerous would it be to IM this stuff with distilled water without putting it through some kinda micron filter first? Abscesses incoming?
I wouldn't be shooting often. Only a few times with this gram I have.

pic related as a crosspost
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Sophie Pissletere - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:31:42 EST ID:rhDl1as1 No.572890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572888
>stimlion
Great
My thread's ruined
Goodbye /opi/
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:45:18 EST ID:qxMJfD0+ No.572891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572890
Wait I'm here. I'm also throwing up my KFC from being benzed and still cllimbnig from the xanax and shit's getting foggy.
The only thing I know of needles is is that it makes bubbles a real problem even if it's just like air bubbles so be careful of abscesses and dead skin and whatever so IV if you can instead. IM normally requires very pure compounds and street ketamine is not a very pure compound but you can make it into like a very pure compound with some steps.

Do you now hot to purify ketamine on the streets' purities? you can do it with the sheet of glass or with an acid base extractino so you can im it with a logwer doesan'tge than if you were snorting it.

man i remember my first and last khole sitting there trying to snort like fucking 4 lines of AWEFUL burning white crystals that i couldn't even crush. 3 lintes later my nose was on fire and i still had one line to do. that shit was fucked because i'm mornally used to just doing like 2/3s of a dilaudid 2 or like 50mg of half pure cocaine so snorthing shit fucking sucks. especially with oxycmorphone i just hve 0.5mg in like 3.5mg acetyl-l-caritine solution so i weigh out 5mg of the thing and sort it like it's nothing. fuck snorting ketamine and good on you for im-ing it

anyway what is the stolution of your ketamine and what is it cut with? do you nkow? like MSG or something? If so, a simple freebase, hexane, acidification with HCl in ethanol could work pretty well if you know some chemistry. if not, citric acid for the final step would be fine.

good and happy vibes to you SLAYER mah nigga.
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Caroline Chummerlare - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 03:23:57 EST ID:gPmWd1Mh No.572907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572874
If it 100% dissolves its ok thats how I did 92% s isomer k Inz the thigh. Dont touch the needle o the bottom of the spoon
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 04:39:58 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.572910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rather than IM your ketamine, I personally think you should put your dissolved ketamine solution through a micron filter and proceed to use it intravenously. It's just a superior experience - sure, a hell of a lot more intense, but you don't have to use as much as an IM dose so it's more efficient and just a plain better experience. There's also the fact that intramuscular injections are actually more risky health-wise than an IV injection. Do as you wish, of course, this is just my opinion.
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Nigel Sicklebog - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:20:14 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.572931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572877
literally feels like falling into a hole. do it


Overdose / Addiction / Stories by John Nondlekatch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:31:47 EST ID:3flctKG8 No.572902 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How many times have you OD'D anon?

Pic related one of my earlier OD's caught a DUI for it back in '14. I did probation for a year or two and couldn't keep it together so I violated and was given the chance to go to inpatient rehab for 90 days. Proceeded to get out of rehab and took up alcoholism. Finally one hungover morning after 6+ months being clean I gave in and proceeded to OD twice in 24 hours. Due too multiple drug combos mainly alcohol and no tolerance to opiates anymore. It's been a shitty 7 years of romanticism and fuckery. Tell me your OD stories.. I have plenty.
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John Nondlekatch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:37:57 EST ID:3flctKG8 No.572903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572902
I fell out in an aldi bathroom with my pants around my ankles. I took my pants off and sat on the toilet because the gap inbetween the stalls was obvious so I wanted to make it look like I was shitting. Low and behold I ended up slumped over with my pants around my ankles and taken to the hospital. I remember asking the paramedics where my pants where (since there was dope in the small pocket) and they told me they where still on me around my ankles. Thank god. God bless good samaritan laws. Seems like I always leave the er with my leftover dope
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John Nondlekatch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:49:11 EST ID:3flctKG8 No.572906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572902
Good news of this story is the time I spent in rehab (and actually learned shit) counted as county time. So when I was brought back to my shitty area. My po wanted me to do even more out patient shit and report to her weekly and pay fines. That was too much pressure for me being recently sober. So I hid out and ptr'd myself expecting to go to jail for the winter. But when I showed up, and told this stupid bitch I caught this shit in 14' and just want to get on with my life and I'm more than happy to spend the winter in jail. She said okay and went to talk with the DA and when she came back she said It's all over. Time served. I almost shit myself.


Opiate withdrawal day 8 by Martha Sicklefoot - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:14:54 EST ID:gV9riQAq No.572630 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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8 days ago i cold turkeyed from suboxone after being on it for close to a year. I expected withdrawals to be bad because i didn't do much of a slow taper before coming off, but I am now in day 8 and I'm still getting some fairly debilitating physical withdrawal symptoms. Does it usually last this long? last time I withdrew i was fine by day 5. Im wondering if loperamide may be prolonging the withdrawals as I am using it to block me up? any help would be appreciated
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:47:18 EST ID:PV/gC808 No.572817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572816
Made a new stencil though. Had to have someone run and spray it for me. Pretty immobilized cuz of the leg, couldn't do nothing right?
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 05:37:04 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.572845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572816
dude, that really sucks. I can't believe they would cut you off like that.
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Hugh Dracklestone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:18:03 EST ID:huomk/H0 No.572896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572780
Ah damn I was wondering if i could use a small amount of oxycodone or fentanyl around 2 weeks in to help with the cravings but I'm sure that'll set me back. Lets just say I work in a hospital setting doing quite complicated work and I am pretty new so I don't trust anyone enough for that. Also any wiff of this sort of activity and I'd be out of a job forever. Thanks for hints about the actions of xanax, although I am aware of its action time its the only benzo I can get at this stage, and I'm trying to keep it to a small amount (wouldn't want to swap from an opi addiction fir a benzo one). Thanks for your help its been amazing! FYI for anyone going through suboxone withdrawals, loperamide is a GODSEND its the only thing making work manageable. For anyone else attempting cold turkey suboxone or any withdrawal of that matter it is DOABLE you just have to deal with the symptoms day by day, try to keep yourself busy or watch something funny (shows like would i lie to you & 8 out of 10 cats are great for distracting the mind). Try to have a goal to aim at, as for me i booked a holiday at the end of March to force myself to get off. Also if you have the motivation, try to keep a journal so you can record how painful the withdrawal was so that in the future you can avoid relapsing.
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Hugh Dracklestone - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 01:30:29 EST ID:huomk/H0 No.572897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572816
Hey mate how are you going? Have you gone into withdrawals yet? If you ever need to talk hmu! There's always one poem/quote that gets me through tough times like these. When a King had the passage "This too shall pass" inscribed on a ring so when he looked at it when he was happy he became sad and when he looked at it when he was sad he became happy. Good luck with the withdrawals you're stronger than you think, just keep at it and play it day by day, minute by minute.
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John Nondlekatch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 02:41:32 EST ID:3flctKG8 No.572904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572630
obligatory post. gl fam


PST by Frederick Pushgold - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 11:55:13 EST ID:VqBQrw0A No.572853 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /opi/

So I was eating these rolls my mother makes, pic related, and my father says to me jokingly "careful, don't eat too much or you might get high". This is where I had the epiphany, I was consuming poppy seeds. See where I live, Eastern Europe that is, this thing is called "mak", and I never knew what poppy seeds were called in my native language, until my father said that to me and I connected the dots. LOL I'm really surprised at my stupidity, not knowing I could get my hands on poppy seeds all this time.


I was wondering, are the seeds they sell at the market a good enough batch for PST?

Can anyone guide me through the process of making PST? Like what dosage is good for a first time and stuff like that.


P.S. the only opiate I've done before is Codeine, so I'd say my tolerance is nonexistent.
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Frederick Pushgold - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 15:19:07 EST ID:VqBQrw0A No.572864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572863
If the seeds are washed, planting them would work anyway?
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Molly Pumblehood - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:04:34 EST ID:0Qo4CvVs No.572869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572861
Sorry, I thought you're hungarian becouse we say it as mák. Now i checked, serbians say it as мaк , very similar. Maybe you can get high off poppy there, because i feel like the more heroin a country got the less they give a shit about poppy control, and i've heard that heroin in serbia is pretty cheap and wide availible. (Sorry, i don't imply Kosovo is part of Serbia or not, i don't know about that and what is the truth in that question so i don't intend to offend you)
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:20:54 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572864
Yeah, you can always buy a small quantity of P-somniferum seeds online too if you're looking for a high morphine strain.
Washed seeds are simply ones that have been rinsed before sale, they still grow like any other seeds but won't have any (useful amounts of) morphine (or other alkaloids) on them. Poppy seeds don't contain any opium alkaloids, they are transferred to the seeds by contact with the seed pod, so rinsing the seeds removes almost all of the opium residue from the surface of the seeds.
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Simon Menderwill - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:57:56 EST ID:VqBQrw0A No.572882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572869
It's alright, I didn't take any offense, besides, I wouldn't want to derail this thread and start a political discussion lol. Anyway, you're right about the Heroin, most of the hard drugs come here from Serbia, as opposed to weed which comes from Albania. So I guess I'll look into Serbian brand poppy seeds then.


>>572871
Ah, I see. You've given me all the info I needed. Thanks.

nb
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:49:22 EST ID:+traNyEM No.572894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572864
Yeah dude. throw your washed seeds in the garden and you can actually ly like grow opiate plates in your garden.


Overdose Prevention by Captain Douglas Falcon - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:46:42 EST ID:5fzoQy2n No.572258 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When you're nodding face and don't want to die, be sure to get some skittles, you can't OD if you're tasting the rainbow,
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Vesuvius !mwkx2R2WbM - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:07:07 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.572870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572868
one help tip you forgot:
  • ice cubes in ass and pussy. One time someone posted here saying that did that and the person who od'ed survived which proves the technique to be successful. /meme
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:22:42 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572870
I remember that thread, it was probably the best one on /opi/
You don't happen to have screencaps of it or it's sister thread, do you?
NB
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Vesuvius !mwkx2R2WbM - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:48:24 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.572873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572872
I honestly felt bad about posting about that because I was sure of myself that I had the screen cap. Was gonna post the screencap but apparently I don't have it.
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Frederick Punderfield - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:45:10 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572872

>>572873
I thought I had it as well, but do not. Sorry guise
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:48:36 EST ID:qxMJfD0+ No.572893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572872
no but this one was really nice


Parcipiated Withdrawals. Subs. by Eliza Gummerridge - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:12:05 EST ID:yLu7GQKc No.572758 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So , yesterday I tried to get onto suboxone. I was using fent, and waited about 20 hours. felt pretty sick. I've been on it in the past so i was like what the hell. The nurse gave me 4 miligrams. I didn't precipitate. I felt silghity worse, but I didn't really notice. She gave me 8 miligrams more, then all hell broke lose. Was so fucking sick instantly. sweating my balls off. worse withdrawals i've ever experienced. even worse than day 3 withdrawals. I was so fucked. I looked up online. and most things said wait 24 hours then take more do the suboxone induction. Or use and you feel better. I used. I had a friend who doctored me up. If he hadn't been there, i would not have been able to hit the vein. or cook up my shoot . i fixed up a P. and was alright for a couple hours. I took me 6 hours to get some cash. by that time I was completely fucked again. I fixed up a Quarter. My friend doctored me up again. This held me unti this morning and I fixed up another Q. Went out and made my cash. Around 6 parcipiated WD's came back. Fixed up and am currently okay.

What the hell do you do in this situation? The nurses had no idea. They wanted to give me more suboxone. and i was like fuck that. Without my friend to doctor me, i would of for sure ended up in the hospital. How long does this shit last? I got another fix for tonight before i sleep. And a fix for the morning. It seems like a quater is lasting about 8 hours, then im back into the hellish wds. Worst fucking experience and pain in my life. Even just going without dope for a few days, is nothing compared to that feeling. 2 year user.

Shit fucked my day hard.
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Martha Dirrytig - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:26:43 EST ID:cwwzq/KV No.572802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been there op, with u47, 80mg per hour habit.
I was in a rest room in a wawa, alot 50 miles away from home, and shot 8mg of subs. I was shitting non stop, eyes dilated, drenched, dizzy and hallucinating for 45 mins, and then it kind if receded in waves to a drunken, in a bad way, stupor, and drive home feeling like my cat was a hover craft. Like I knew it wasn't, but it felt like it wasn't touching the road, just gliding over it.

I rode that one out until more u47 came.

The point is that after you've built up a big ass habit, there comes a point when your daily need for opiates exceeds the max effect subs can have in your receptors.when you cross that line, no amount if subs will make you right. Taking subs, no matter what, will make you sick. I think, theoretically, if one was past that point, you could withdraw for for multiple days until your tolerance dropped to where subs would help, but you would still need days without using, in the hellish wds, so that doesn't really help.

My only advice is that you could try a rapid methadone taper. It used to be a thing in the 60s, but supposedly methadone doesn't affect the same receptors as regular opis, like one goes after the mu-1 and meth goes after mu-2 or something. So using the methadone for 3-5 days wont make you dependant. I was successful using that method, but the explanation sounds bogus.
I needed like 400mg of methadone to do it, and each day I took less and less.
Alternatively taper down then jump to subs.
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Beatrice Gonningdire - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:29:43 EST ID:yLu7GQKc No.572828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572784
I used pretty much as fast as I could. Which sucked balls, because when i got the pcwd, I had no cash on me. I had to call my guys up, didn't even tell them it was a front. Took the drugs and was like " uhh, i don't have cash right now, but i'm really fucked up I got pcwd from taking subs" And they had no fucking clue what i was talking about. lol .
>>572786
Yeah. I'm thinking about going the methadone route. I've been on both methadone and suboxone before. The thing is when I took the subs, I was in withdrawal. Runny nose, sneezing, hot and cold, goosebumps. But I st ill had dope in my system. Worst experience ever.

It's already been two days. My pcwds lasted over 24 hours. A lot of people online were saying it last like an hour. After an hour, I got worse.

I've used about the regular amount I have for the last couple days, so i guess a suboxone induction is out of the question. I don't think any human being could go through pcwd's for over a day. I guess it's back to the fucking drawing board for me.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 05:32:44 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572828
>I don't think any human being could go through pcwd's for over a day.
Happened to me too; I had repeatedly said that methadone would be the best choice; they put me on bupe.
Personally I find that methadone (70mg) has a better blocker effect than bupe (16mg), a whole lot about bupe is smoke blown up the asses of the medical community. Something that happens every time a patent runs out.
The whole PCWD for 24+ hours is likely due to the fact that bupe is a partial agonist with an extremely high binding affinity and long half-life so it saturates the majority of your opioid receptors and prevents anything else from binding.
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Albert Goodshit - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 16:33:25 EST ID:L5wY4xiN No.572866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572828
You didn't have dope in your system, your tolerance was too high for the bupe to stimulate your receptors adequately.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:28:28 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.572917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572802

Dude why dont you use some real opiates instead of caustic bullshit form china? Huh? Take a real opi bro hop off that fake shit

dumb fuck RC junkie


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