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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Daily dose

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- Sun, 31 May 2020 01:22:21 EST jPNtZ3fl No.615470
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For those of you who use daily, how much of your drug of choice is necessary to keep you out of withdrawals? What about to get high?

DOC is heroin, and it takes about two bags to avoid withdrawal completely and more than double that (about 5 bags) to catch a high. Bags are supposedly 100mg of heroin, but obviously it varies big time.
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lol - Sun, 31 May 2020 05:10:25 EST IggaRoSW No.615472 Reply
>>615471
How does levomethadone compare to regular methadone? If you've had the normal kind.
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m - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 17:48:37 EST vgHBTjMI No.615479 Reply
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>>615470
Not sure if my use/reply is relevant for OP's thread, but...

>on bupe/sub maintenance for ~1.75 years now

>DO pharma opioids (~99.99% of the time just bupe/subs, occasionally hydros/percs/codeine, very rarely dillies/dhc), or various unrefined poppy plant products (seeds via water tea, both dried and rarely fresh pods via water-based tea or actual laudanum, very rarely non-smoked pod latex, etc.)

>how much to stay well
~3.5-4.5mg/day snorted/plugged in solution, or ~5.5-6mg/day sublingual.

Lately for weeks it's been ~3-3.75mg/day snorted/plugged, i.e. thesmaller broken-in-half halves of 8mg tablets, or for sublingual use, the smaller half tablet + smaller quarter tablet.

>how much to get high

No amount of non-IV bupe can subjectively make me feel high or impaired at this point. Ages ago I tried something nuts like 24mg plugged + 8mg snorted via monkey water, so 32mg total, and felt nothing but more nauseous and temperature change. I've never IVed a drug outside medical care, and have 0 interest IVing bupe/subs.

>how much to get high on my various DOCs

At 4mg snorted (approx. 6mg sublingual) bupe/day, for me, if I drop down to ~2mg sublingual one day, ~1mg snorted/2mg sublingual the second day, followed by ~24-36hr "CT" (so ~3-3.5 days since "full" normal bupe dose)...

I can successfully get high off as little as about ~0.50-1lb of UK PST, at least the pre-ban 2018-2019 Big 2 brand name sources (that no longer sell). It might reasonably take ~1-2lb of that one remaining online UK source seed wise, but in the past, just ~0.67lb seed+30-60mg pharma morphine equivalent has been enough for a ~6.5-7.5/10 high enjoyment wise. I've tended to use 0.75lb seed on top of either 300mg codeine [%](non-CWE'd codeine via T3 tablets+ 1.5g oral NAC) or 120-180mg oral dhc.

If I only do one low bupe dose day instead of two (usually just 1mg snorted vs. normal 4mg) before waiting an additional ~24-36hr CT, IME it requires something like a ~25-40% higher dose to achieve similar effects, though it's not quite the same and tends to have shorter euphoric legs.

For pods, it's been hit or miss...usually something like 2.5-6oz of dried, deseeded, ground up pod matter via several pass water/75% ethanol extraction, when consumed alongside either 300mg codeine, 120-180mg dhc, or maybe like 150-250mg tramadol.

I only tend to use codeine/dhc/rarely tramadol because it's way more affordable for me, and because it's way easier to obtain. There's still loads of 30mg codeine (w/ & w/o APAP), 50mg IR and 100mg XR tramadol, and less so 30/60mg dhc IR tablets in my unused stash from Cambodia, among other stuff.

>how to transition back onto bupe/subs after you chip/use rarely
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Sophie Herryworth - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 18:53:21 EST wPVuI1TH No.615481 Reply
>>615479

There's no need to spoiler all that text, it's obnoxious. Plus, if you try and expand your post from the main page, it breaks the code and puts spoilers within the spoilers, which makes it more of a PITA to read.

There's really no need, it's a distraction. nb

Can you guys describe a heroin high?

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- Mon, 01 Jun 2020 10:51:57 EST 1t/OE150 No.615477
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Hey, can you guys describe to me what a heroin high feels like?

How does it affect each sense?

Smell - Taste- Touch- Sound- Sight- Feeling (emotional/spiritual)
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Hannah Monderpig - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 17:47:40 EST Bunz0mv4 No.615478 Reply
It seems you are coming from a perspective of someone who has tried cannabis and maybe some psychedelics/more cerebral drugs which alter your state of consciousness. Well, opioids are really like that in that they affect you in that way. It doesn't really change your senses in a significant way. It basically just makes your body feel like its having a loooong orgasm while you are in a 100% sober mndset. You will get mood enhancement and even feel more energetic/talkative at reasonably low doses. At higher doses you will just want to close your eyes and you will enter a state similar to lucid dreaming.
There is not spiritual value to opioids. They do not grant the user unique perspectives. They just make you feel good. That is basically all it does.
Also, if you are curious and thinking about experimenting with opioids, I'd strongly advise you to think again. It is a whole different game from cannabis and having a fun little trip on mushrooms or whatever the fuck you have experimented with thus far. Opioids are an amazing feeling that will suck you in and ruin your life. Even if you think you are stronger than them, and it won't happen to you, there is a substantial chance you are wrong. 25% of people who try heroin become addicted. Do you wanna roll those dice?

First time plugging

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- Sat, 30 May 2020 03:16:16 EST FBBsC1Ds No.615455
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Wasn’t getting any responses in the stim board so I thought I might get some here.

Would the pictured oral syringe be safe for plugging? It will be my first time and I’m worried about the curve because all the guides I can find only mention straight oral syringes
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Fuck Sennersat - Sat, 30 May 2020 18:39:59 EST 29QbCoeq No.615462 Reply
>>615455
you only need to go in your butt like 1/2 inch, so yes BUT use caution. plugging lead me to shooting because plugging sucks to keep doing and then you cant get high otherwise
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m - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 10:26:19 EST vgHBTjMI No.615476 Reply
>>615455
Assuming you're in the US or presumably Canada/Western EU/Aus/NZ, there's no need to force yourself to use such a "sharp," curved oral syringe for plugging purposes. Yes, in theory, you could use that oral syringe somewhat "safely," but I wouldn't advise it.

At least in the US, you can buy individual 5ml oral syringes for as little as $2-3 shipped on @maz0n via prime shipping, OR get 100 5ml oral syringes for as little as ~$10-15 shipped.

Stores like CVS/Walgreens will give you one or several oral syringes for totally FREE basically 100% of the time (has worked for me and everyone I know absolutely 100% of the time, though if you live in the hood in a huge urban center maybe it's like 90% chance, idk). All you have to do is have the smallest set of balls and use your words to ask for "a syringe without a needle" for "your cat/dog's medicine," and if they look at you weird, say your vet said to ask them. They've always responded by asking me what size, and I've had the best results by saying "I don't know...could I have a few different ones?" Then they've usually given me 1 or 2 each of 1ml, 2-3ml, and 5ml oral syringes. If they're being weird about it, you can I guess say the 5ml one or "the bigger one" so you don't get stuck with the 1ml syringe(s).

Surely there's a pharmacy within ~5-15 minute drive of you, or if it's that inconvenient, a store like Walmart etc. that should offer one free from the pharmacy or at worst insist you buy one off the rack for like ~$3-6. If you live in the absolute sticks, then just order the 100 pack for $11 or whatever, or I guess a 10-50 pack for even less.

While 1ml syringes will work decently well for some doses/drugs/situations, I highly suggest at least a 2-3ml syringe, preferably an actual 5ml syringe. There's almost no situation you'd need over 5ml water, and the 5ml oral rigs give you more room to agitate the solution.

If you do choose to filter your drugs (whether via cotton, actual 0.22/0.45/1/5ug micron filters, ~5-10ug sterifilts, or some other NON-CIG FILTER FROM A PACK method), assuming it's a legitimate pharma grade medication, relatively pure RC, or debatably street drugs that are "mostly" safe to consume unfiltered orally, definitely consider washing the filter thoroughly with water (assuming the drug is water soluble) and consuming the filtered leftovers orally (or sublingually if that's higher BA).

What do you intend to plug? Is it pharma, from the street, or DNMs? If this isn't a one-off experience, consider buying some cheap pH strips online/at local pool store so you can periodically check to ensure your drug solution stays between ~6.0-8.0pH (isn't particularly acidic or alkaline).

Ooo piece of candy.

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- Thu, 28 May 2020 17:51:54 EST 7Qx20ejb No.615420
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Found this assortment in my grandpas old potseeds
Folded up in a piece of paper.
I don't even know where to start.
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Hugh Trotman - Sat, 30 May 2020 19:36:37 EST 7Qx20ejb No.615467 Reply
>>615466
I actually had a dream urging me to reread the bible.
I was raised catholic in a outcast in private school up to 6th grade
So I've avoided it, but it's on the shelf.
I'm also reading t h.whites the once and future king.
Which is wonderful.

Getting Clean

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- Wed, 27 May 2020 18:23:03 EST qIwULXln No.615417
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So, I figured I'd make this thread to keep myself from backing out of getting clean. 5/28/20 will be my last day using IV heroin and from then on the withdrawals will ensue and I will have to fight through it and not be a bitch. I just wanna make a thread to log where I'm at for other people to see just to kind of keep me going. I've got about 35gs of very very good kratom, some gabapentin, some clonidine, and about 5 5mg valiums. Wish me luck, guys. I've done this a few times before in the past and was able to stay clean for over a year. I'm just sick of getting high, blowing all my money, and not doing anything with my life.
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Albert Crebberhall - Fri, 29 May 2020 17:14:50 EST GDPxoLbJ No.615448 Reply
>>615447
First of all your stash of 35g of kratom is not nearly enough in my opinion. Lol you could easily go through 35g of kratom in a day if you are going through heroin withdrawals. Trust me I just went through heroin withdrawal and used kratom to help get through it. I would order a kilo, you can use a shit ton of it for the first week of withdrawals and then your body will slowly adjust to the kratom instead of the H and you can slowly taper off the kratom or honestly just stay on it if you want, its really much better than being on hard opioids.
But let me warn you that kratom will just take the edge off. It is still going to be hell, so if you can I'd get some other comfort meds.
Can you get some benzos? Source yourself some, preferably xanax due to half life and get enough for like a week max. Clonidine may be harder to source on the black market but if you can go to a doctor you can get that as well. You can order etizolam still legally in the US afaik which would also be a great choice if you cant get benzos. Etizolam is honestly my favorite benzo.
If you can't or don't want to go the benzo route, get at least some Phenibut. it is legal to order online and very easy to find. One or two beers can also help immensely and also help with hydration but its important not to go too overboard with alcohol in withdrawal and also be careful what drugs you combine. If you get the benzos, there is no need to consume any alcohol or phenibut. Benzos would be the best option.
Other things I recommend to take at night: multivitamin, calcium, and magnesium
Get some coconut water as well to rehydrate it's full of potassium. All these nutrients your body will need while you are sweating and detoxing and barely eating. They will definitely help you recover faster.
I'd also start taking 60mg of DXM daily because it will possibly help get your tolerance back down and also just NMDA antagonists are great for reducing the misery of withdrawal. Ketamine would be even better.

I know its probably somewhat controversial to use drugs like benzos or ketamine to get clean but honestly it may lead to a greater success rate imo.
So here's your plan:

>Kratom: Just take that shit as needed. As much as you want. It will get to a point where more won't help though and just make you nauseous and dizzy though
>Benzos: Also just take as needed and maybe a little more at night when you want to try and sleep. Try not to go too overboard and don't take it longer than you need to
>Ketamine(optional): just to numb yourself while going through the worst of it. and to take your mind off using. It works great for this but its definitely not necessary
>DXM: 60mg morning and night
>Multivitamin/magnesium/calcium: every night
>Coconut water; make sure to drink this and plenty of water as well
>Phenibut/agmatine: legal supplements that I would also recommend

Best of luck man. I hope this helps you a little bit
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Fuck Chindlebet - Fri, 29 May 2020 17:24:26 EST oB+fz9uw No.615449 Reply
Coming off a binge after being sober for 3ish months. I cant get into rehab/detox until monday and i spent all my money. I feel absolutely terrible but excited to go to rehab again (really like the place im going to) and hopefully maintain sobriety. My life would be so fucking good if i was off drugs literally every problem i have is a direct result of opiate addiction
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Polly Nisslechad - Sun, 31 May 2020 06:37:10 EST SPJmS0+u No.615473 Reply
Try suboxone if you can

Why opiates

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- Thu, 21 May 2020 05:23:32 EST Mjy8E5PD No.615309
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Why do some people gravitate towards opiates? I've tried every drug under the sun and nothing does it for me quite like heroin. And then I know other people who really don't like opiates too much and are more meth freaks. Must be a personality thing wonder how it works.
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Eugene Sodgewater - Sat, 30 May 2020 17:36:09 EST 5b8+ES5t No.615459 Reply
>>615435
Opes should be viewed as a timekiller and nothing else, even if its tempting to make a lifestyle out of them nb
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Rebecca Tillingbury - Sat, 30 May 2020 23:21:40 EST Gq+FJTcZ No.615469 Reply
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Depressed people typically prefer meth and people with anxiety disorders gravitate towards opiates.
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Rebecca Hullylock - Sun, 31 May 2020 14:17:30 EST HtswKv4Q No.615474 Reply
>>615469
Thats literally my favorite form of oxys, 20s are pink tho not yellow, those are the fives. Also that anxiety theory is interesting, got anything to back it up?

Possible to chip?

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- Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:21:20 EST GbswW6cE No.614994
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So guys, I have come to you with a question. I'm in search of anyone who is able to successfully chip.
My background: 23yo with a history of drug abuse however I've been mostly sober over the last 3 years with the exception of kratom and nicotine.
In March, probably due to being in lockdown, I had a little binge on some opioids. It started with oxycodone, 10mg would get me nodding nice. I got a sleeve of 10 * 80mg oxycodone hydrochloride, that progressed to me ordering 2.5g of high quality #3 heroin freebase off the darkweb, then another 5g. In total I consumed over this 3 week binge period 800mg of oxycodone (boofed) and 7.5g of heroin (smoked) over a 3 week period.
On the last night of the binge, I pretty much figured that I would be fine and the kratom would carry me through the withdrawal. It was only 3 weeks after all. How wrong I was. Withdrawal hit like a bitch about 24 hours after my last dose and I desperately ordered another 5g of Heroin. While waiting for it to arrive, I suddenly got some sense and realized I was addicted at this point and taking more would only postpone the detox I'd eventually have to do (and make it worse). I told my gf everything (she knows that I have a history of drug abuse from years back but never witnessed it, she is drug naive and I was hiding the use from her over these 3 weeks) that I was addicted to heroin. I told her that I had 5g on the way in the mail and I needed to tell her so she could make sure I wasn't home when it arrived and we could flush it together. So everything went according to plan, we flushed the heroin and she helped me through the week or so of horrible withdrawals. Now I've been off it for over a month and I'm wondering now... is it possible to chip?
Keep in mind that that was my first time getting addicted to hard opiates and I had the self control to stop. So if I was able to do that then is it possible to maintain enough self control to chip? I want to be able to use here and there but I am well aware it is a very dangerous game. But going in with the right mentality, does anyone here do this successfully?
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Sidney Cassleseck - Sat, 02 May 2020 04:21:30 EST 29QbCoeq No.615054 Reply
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>>614994
you fucking retard. just do the drugs or not. no need to make it a fucking dramatic omg fest. not even the worst trip fags here are that bad.
women dont care, just dont be weak, theyre not going to pretend like they didnt see their "man" acting weak and pathetic because you were on or not on drugs. Why did you tell us all that? Its you crying for help saying that you know you cant chip but you want to, and you want us to enable you.
So no, you are certifiably too retarded to chip, i am sorry. maybe in a year or two you will be wiser. I can go on but thats enough to sink in for now
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Albert Crebberhall - Fri, 29 May 2020 16:07:21 EST GDPxoLbJ No.615445 Reply
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So just want to update everyone on what happened lol

I did end up ordering another 2.5g of heroin. I tried to be cautious about the use. I started smoking some after a few days and got really nicely high. I waited a few days between each dose. Obviously it was still too frequent. I would be thinking about it all the time. My original plan was to use once a week at a maximum but I ended up slowly bending the rules, and by the end of the bag I was like fuck it it's almost done anyways so I'll run out and that will be that and I ended up smoking it 3 nights in a row. Only at night though but still that was obviously too frequent.

Did hit some minor withdrawals but nothing super serious. Was able to sleep the first few nights even (though not well) and taking a shit ton of kratom seemed to eliminate most of the withdrawals. Still the withdrawal got uncomfortable enough at one point that I had a little panic attack thinking I was going to have to go through the hell that I went through from the first relapse (and it was really fucking horrible) and in that panic I confessed everything to my girlfriend (as I was with her at the time). If I wasn't with her at that moment I probably would have never told her. That was probably on May 10th or so. She has been really supportive and there for me but the one thing she can't take is me lying about my use (which I did). Because on the first day of using that 2.5g bag of H I took a little too much and threw up the next day on my way to her place. She was very suspicious and asked me if I had used but I brushed it off and then spent the next few days at her house without using so her suspicion dropped. She's not as mad about the use as she is about me lying about it.

Anyways, yeah. I don't think chipping is for me. Since then I have only taken 40mg of oxycodone on my birthday which was honestly a very underwhelming high but yeah. I know I should just stick to kratom but I am very often thinking about heroin now.

I appreciate everyone's input even the dude who was like a super harsh asshole because I think in the end he was right. I'm talking about you
>>615054

Pic is a drawing I made back in 2014 when I had my first romance with opioids

BWN Corona lock down edition

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:20:00 EST txpYQORe No.614404
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Corona got us in self isolation but you know but I think d-boy counts as close family and friends, nah what I'm sayin? Juuuust kidding, though we know deep down we're gonna potentially risk our loved ones lives over an "unnecessary" break of iso.
That's enough negativity. Who's getting high on some opiates? Anyone have any interesting stories or antics to share?

Personally I'm bumping on some store bought Spanish seeds according to the label, I guess AUS truly ran out, these aren't half bad honestly but I'm also on a high dose of pregablin so who knows.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 29 May 2020 08:54:11 EST 8wkjRbIb No.615436 Reply
>>614940
Might've been NZZ? He was a friend who posted here. He's dead. It might also have been OGP / Overgrownpath who is alive and well. Haha was it a benzo blackout rampage? I used to inject midazolam ampoules a bit. We also got vials of blue clonazepam we would shoot too but blue triazolam is also near and dear.

Just popped by to check the charts and feel /opi/s pulse as well as maybe cross paths with people. Keep talking to /opi/, holding it's hand and bringing flowers. Who knows.

>>615141
haha my yen for safety dips and peas. For the higher levels of lockdown I regressed to no wheel filter use but using them now along with sterile water. Hope you're well dude.


Took 4mgs clonaz and just the first speedball of the night. Had a family member pass away very recently. I've lost quite a few riends now but this was the closest yet. So here's a very modest tribute to him. If you know anyone who is unhappy or you yourself feel suicidal or depressed, don't keep it all inside.Who gives a fuck about being labelled an attention seeker or worrying about what people will think. Fuck labels like crying wolf in regards to suicide. Appreciate and love your friends and family out there and cherish them because it can all go in an instant. Also just cause I know he would've found this funny, when we were kids we used to climb trees and catch eels and shoot air riles. I remember endless summer days fighting on the trampoline or swimming in pools. I remember booting you in the nuts and then when he came to interfere, going on to smashi your dad in the nuts too. The image and what was unfamiliar phrasing when he told me to never hit "the family jewels" is so firmly etched into my brain I remember it like yesterday. You lost your virginity before me but I got the first gun. Then I sold you a double barrel sawed off which you pointed at your old man cos he wouldn't you do something ridiculous drunk. He took it off you and quietly told me about it years later. Never lectured. When we were 14 and first dabbled in growing weed you took a photo on your and somehow got caught, he found it and dug it up. Quiet and without any sanctimony. True class. Seems like you beat me to something else eh? If anything, I'd have thought it'd be the other way around. I'lll miss your cheeky grin. Here's to you man.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 29 May 2020 09:41:20 EST 8wkjRbIb No.615439 Reply
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>>615025
Kadian are like M-Eslons right? If yes, then hell yeah dude. I took it down cos I felt nervous a bit. Not so much of the face or identifying tattoos but rather the dirty kitchen. I was just waiting for some darkweb bottle fed drug nerd to tell me that me cooling the hot spoon on a scummy sponge was "uncouth and absolutely, horribly horripilating and uncouth" so I took it down. I'll send it to you on that stealth mode shit where the link works tho.

Pegging isn't done with soda. That's the process where you separate the binders from the morphine. In my guide I wrote and then eventually had Michael Bay direct for film adaptation it's the form of homebake that's done daily (often several times in a day) with like one or two pills. With that much morph you don't fuck around trying to separate the binders. You can handle a bit of mechanical loss when you have a gram or even just 500mg to play with. With only 200 or so mg it's not worth the loss and work. You just do it on the pill as is. You mix the crushed pill and water to make a runny slurry, which you spread and dry. This is what you put your AA on. Let me find some pictures to illustrate.

Pegging is another horse altogether. It's best done on pills that don't gell up. You mix them up and filter then use a basic solution to precipitate out the morphine. Imagine it like this: You prepare a shot for like a giant, you got a gram in a nice clear solution in a horse syringe ready tor fucking shrek or whatever. Deviat a bit there though. You add a few drops of sodium hydroxide (lye / caustic soda / drain cleaner) to the shrek shot and when you get to about 9 (your'e using PH papers) you'll see your clean solution turn to a snowglobe situation. You pour that through a coffee filter and that's your pure morphine freebase.

You want something like this. This imo is the make or break section of your cook where you'll either reap your reward or end up with greasy burnt nothing. It's like such a little bit of baking soda you use and the water is only like half ml for one pill. Too little and it becomes too hard to mix but too much water and it's too thin and dries weird, like shifting. It's just liquid enough to stir without sticking and shit and will move and spread but when you stop and it's settled, it's not going to move and shit. Pancake or cake mix is sorta familiar.

Sine they took the 100mg variation of the arrow LA morph tablets off the market here I've switched back to powder. For a while there there it was like a grey renascence going on and i was living like one of the Borgias. Fucking Borgias of 'bake man. Churning out some of the best turns in my life. An appropriate last end of greys.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Fri, 29 May 2020 15:59:15 EST nB9Vj02h No.615443 Reply
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>>615439
Awesome thanks for clarifying for me. I would have figured the tattoos would have been the reason you took it down, that was on one of the first things I thought when I saw it was "noooo nz why aren't you wearing gloves!?" Never would have thought it would be over the state of your kitchen or the damp cooling sponge lol.

Kadian are almost exactly like m-eslons apart from the fact the Kadian has more filler and is 24hr Er instead of eslons 12hr er, they are both morphine sulfate. Kadian are filled with wax coated time release beads... You couldn't dry it out and have it stick to the spoon like that. In the presence of no water/liquid any crushed up Kadian is going to be subject to gravity so I couldn't do your cool chefing technique of heating the back side of the spoon then flipping it over to expose the already stuck morph to the radiant heat of the element. I think I would have to be more patient with the water evap.

Then again if I wanted to try and follow your Tek to a t I would just go and buy some ms contins.. they aren't too hard to obtain and I can get peaches for something like $5 or less.

Good to hear from ya man, thanks for the response. Shoot my love over ogp's way and tell him I wish him the best as well.

Dumb question

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- Sun, 17 May 2020 22:30:37 EST DfDdHL6h No.615254
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Can you get high on methadone? Or suboxone?
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lol - Wed, 27 May 2020 17:44:28 EST IggaRoSW No.615415 Reply
>>615254
If you have low tolerance they are some of the best for potency and cost effectiveness, can be pretty dangerous for noobs though as they are both strong, I'd research both before touching em for sure .
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Matilda Wollyfadge - Wed, 27 May 2020 18:50:41 EST wPVuI1TH No.615418 Reply
>>615254

I got extremely high after plugging 4mg bupe after not doing any heroin or opioids for 2 weeks. Very high for a good 18 hours, took another 4mg 24 hours after the 1st dose and stayed high for another full 24 hours. Itching like crazy, couldn't sleep at all, weirdly energetic and sedated at the same time. When I was on bupe for maintenance I got no high whatsoever, so it needs to be an occasional thing or you need a lowish tolerance

Never taken methadone recreationally, I'm on it for maintenance though. I still get some sort of altered conciousness from it everyday. It''s subtle, but definitely there. Feels like an afterglow, better mood, more focused and energetic whilst also being relaxed and slightly sedated. Kills craving far far better than bupe for me.

Hard to say which is more recreational for a part time user or one with low tolerance. If you like oxy, then probably bupe, as both can be slightly more energetic than most opioids. If heroin, then methadone, as both can be more sedating. Worth pointing out though that methadone is particularly dangerous to someone with low tolerance, on account of its potency and duration of action. Start small, don't redose within 4-6 hours, avoid booze and benzos
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Hugh Backlesutch - Fri, 29 May 2020 07:44:46 EST SPJmS0+u No.615433 Reply
>>615254
I'm on suboxone and I can feel it every now and then, but mostly it's a subtle antidepressant without a powerful high.

Lean and Percs

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- Fri, 08 May 2020 13:50:41 EST bM2Ya8Wf No.615146
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Hey anons. Tonight gonna try Percs for the first time. My dealer said it goes great with Lean and I plan on doing so while smoking some good ol' MJ, but I am kinda afraid of the results. Any thoughts/recommendations/reports?
Anything would be very appreciated
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 27 May 2020 07:25:18 EST F0WAk4Kd No.615404 Reply
>>615361
Show your damn stripes with an ancient one from 2014 am impress
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Reuben Sucklestane - Fri, 29 May 2020 06:24:21 EST EuAk/hJt No.615431 Reply
>>615416
You said "this nigga said".....


Both are basic

Continue

is car still around

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- Sat, 23 May 2020 21:13:06 EST Eso+iEk0 No.615363
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does anyone know for sure whether or not china is still vending carfentanil? I suspect the answer is yes but it would be reassuring to have a second opinion.
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Clara Woffinggold - Sat, 23 May 2020 21:14:22 EST Eso+iEk0 No.615364 Reply
>>615363
not asking for sources, just for whether or not said sources exist.
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Nell Bardlock - Mon, 25 May 2020 15:41:34 EST rjBr5RjS No.615391 Reply
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what kind of retarded as fuck le question is this
no fucking bump
squeel piggy
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 27 May 2020 23:44:12 EST F0WAk4Kd No.615419 Reply
>>615363
Of course car is still around. Despite it being so much more dangerous it's easier to smuggle small potent batches to be vastly cut and distributed once it his north America. I almost always tested hot for car over the past two years. Despite it being so deadly it's shit tier once you get that massive tolerance and only provides dat rush + maybe 10hr of no sickness. Actual fentanyl is better imo and there are obviously really good euphoric and half life profiles for some analogues and shit for others.

regional opium quality

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- Sat, 16 May 2020 23:40:10 EST KhsDhp0N No.615242
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where does the best opium come from? like what part of the world are the top shelf poppies grown
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Fuck Blundleridge - Wed, 27 May 2020 11:48:04 EST 2czPSRA5 No.615405 Reply
>>615396
" not waste all these pods"
they are literally next to huge ass poppy field I wouldn't care either about wasting them.
I have to go to a place like this I have had actual dreams of me being in a poppy field heaven and harvesting opium
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 29 May 2020 08:58:24 EST 8wkjRbIb No.615437 Reply
Farmer McGregors garden patch. Keeps em coming back again and again. nb
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m - Mon, 01 Jun 2020 18:06:02 EST vgHBTjMI No.615480 Reply
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>>615244
This. GC/MS testing on dozens of samples has confirmed that in terms of UK plant potency (at least back in 2016-2018 when the study was conducted), the seeds alone are so contaminated with opium latex that 1kg of seed contains/contained between ~1200-2788mg of morphine alone (excluding the other alkaloids) per kg of seed.

They're GMO seeds produced almost entirely by GlaxoSmithKlein and licensed for use by the UK gov't. To my knowledge, every licensed poppy field in the UK (or at least England) uses these same genetics, or at least plants intended for pharmaceutical consumption.

No other region/genetics can reasonably compete, particularly in terms of having such high potency whilst also having a much higher morphine ratio, relative to non-morphine, non-codeine opiate alkaloids (thebaine and oripavine in particular). They're relatively low in thebaine, much much lower in terms of thebaine:morphine ratio than say Australian poppies, or even Spanish/Dutch/Afghan for that matter.

Specific genetic variations used in South America/the Golden Crescent/Golden Triangle may possibly produce larger pod weight:total plant weight ratios, higher volumes of latex per bulb/plant, or perhaps bulbs/plants per sq km, but in terms of raw potency per weight and morphine+codeine:all other opi alkaloid "purity" ratio, nothing even comes close to UK seeds. UK origin bulbs/plants and/or homegrown UK genetic plants have hands down ALWAYS been the best plants, dried or fresh, I've ever had in terms of both potency and favorable alkaloid ratios.

nb

Kratom allergy

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- Mon, 18 May 2020 20:12:19 EST xNEv+oAd No.615279
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if i need to move this thread sorry, i know kratom's an opioid and i trust you guys more than the homeless ppl in /other/.

has anyone ever experienced a rash/hives from taking kratom? i'm trying to figure out if this batch is somehow contaminated or if i've somehow developed an allergy to it after taking some time off. again, sorry if this is the wrong place for this question but need some help
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Betsy Dummerfuck - Sun, 24 May 2020 16:17:15 EST 29QbCoeq No.615378 Reply
>>615366
fiber is literally deadly, you dont want fiber, if you cant shit without it then your using it as an ass bandage, magnesium potassium and salt should keep one regular without any fiber. I dont know how fibrous kratom is though
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Nell Dummerdit - Sun, 24 May 2020 19:11:39 EST LZ8viA85 No.615382 Reply
>>615378
this is absolutely true, it's why you hear so many stories about people dropping dead after eating some broccoli. oh wait that makes no sense eat some fucking vegetables you savage
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DTMO - Wed, 27 May 2020 06:16:57 EST aRWRF2tE No.615403 Reply
>>615378
You're half right, I'd you have opioid induced constipation then fibre is unhelpful, it's just more bulk that's not moving through your gut. Normally however? Fibre is great. Gristle from meat kind of does the job but unless you wanna eat a LOT of connective tissue you may have to.eat a vege or two.

Avoiding opiate addiction

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Is there any way to try/use opiates occasionally without getting addicted? I plan not to try out any hard stuff, just codeine, but i've heard that it's very difficult to stop once you try it a few times.
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Beatrice Bizzlenitch - Mon, 25 May 2020 09:43:40 EST Mjy8E5PD No.615387 Reply
>>615268
Not having a local source helps. I finally kicked the worst of addiction by having to order through the darknet. Takes a week to get here, I'm high for two weeks straight and slowly taper near the end, and get a tiny bit sick for a few days. Then I don't buy anymore for maybe 3 weeks or so. Seems to be working fine, at least much better than the daily grind I suffered before.
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Nell Bardlock - Mon, 25 May 2020 14:46:34 EST rjBr5RjS No.615388 Reply
>>615368
Yo peep died at 21, you don't think bouroughs or carrol went through a wild youth stage? Not a fair compare :(
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william maynard garver - Tue, 26 May 2020 21:20:16 EST Ht8q9Aci No.615401 Reply
>>615388
carroll was on junk at like 13 but bill didnt try junk till he was about 30

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