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tolerance blues

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 01:40:36 EST NVDL4q8W No.616559
File: 1596346836265.png -(74666B / 72.92KB, 530x530) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. tolerance blues
>tfw can't get high on kratom anymore


mind you I don't do anything other than kratom (because I can't get my hands on anything else).

gonna have to go on another 2 week tolerance break. fuck
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George Goodwater - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 09:28:48 EST O1Y3/DSw No.616563 Reply
Are you regularly rotating strains? I try to have several different types on hand and never take large doses of the same kind two days in a row. It at least helps slow the tolerance buildup. You'll still get to the point where it just isn't that effective, but worth trying if you aren't already.
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Edwin Hellerpid - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 23:08:36 EST dv1EiRy/ No.616602 Reply
eat food and drink water, I noticed when I took a lot of kratom and am not high is because om neglected with my body requirments

BWN Corona lock down edition

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- Thu, 26 Mar 2020 08:20:00 EST txpYQORe No.614404
File: 1585225200899.jpg -(151296B / 147.75KB, 800x540) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. BWN Corona lock down edition
Corona got us in self isolation but you know but I think d-boy counts as close family and friends, nah what I'm sayin? Juuuust kidding, though we know deep down we're gonna potentially risk our loved ones lives over an "unnecessary" break of iso.
That's enough negativity. Who's getting high on some opiates? Anyone have any interesting stories or antics to share?

Personally I'm bumping on some store bought Spanish seeds according to the label, I guess AUS truly ran out, these aren't half bad honestly but I'm also on a high dose of pregablin so who knows.
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Hedda Driblingsud - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 12:59:26 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616589 Reply
>>616586
Lol your clearly confused


Your saying almost identical potency and duration opiates give different withdrawals

That would only be possible if you dont account for users dosages, tolerances and how cut their drugs are (and oxy neo is realllly bad long withdrawals)
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OctopusWulfὁ9ὃa - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 16:47:03 EST XvZ81YTx No.616593 Reply
>>616584
So last night i almost made a tea with the rest of the dried pods but coffee grinder broke so i just threw them all out in a rage.

I fucking hate people. 2nd time i think i finally found a good connect and they can't grow plants to save their fucking life lol then they act koi when u message me like yo these are inactive af like they were unaware lmao smfh

fuck getting beat.

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- Sat, 01 Aug 2020 23:17:53 EST 2P250rPC No.616548
File: 1596338273280.jpg -(157758B / 154.06KB, 980x980) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. fuck getting beat.
FUCK FUCK FUCK. I decided to try out buying from this faggot kid i used with a while back but i should of known better cause hes a junkie/tweaker himself. Dope is dumb expensive where im at so he offered a solid price. I fucking busted my ass all day at work to come home with 60 dollars in tips and i was sick all day waiting to cop. I got some sold some fucking vitamin powder or something.. the texture and appearence was on point and i didnt really have time to scope it out.



So I had to use the last of my money which i was saving for gas and food to buy a fucking $30 point from this dude thats consistent but expensive as hell. Now im flat broke and have to figure out how to get some gas to get to work tomorrow...



I need to just fucking chill out and wait long enough to get back on my subs but its hard to wait the full time cause i work 6 days a week and am terrified of precipitated withdrawal. I hate this.



This is more of a rant than anything, sorry for the journal post i just needed to vent. If anyone has some similar stories theyd care to share i'd love to hear them.



Thanks guys
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Jarvis Dartlock - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 11:42:50 EST QNNC+qYj No.616566 Reply
>>616552
Thanks man, I really appreciate that. It's nice to think he will get fucked over somehow. Im sick as shit today i'm not sure when i should try to take a sub
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Edwin Sanningstore - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 14:17:38 EST iVtQ3HeV No.616567 Reply
Luckily I’ve never been beat. That has to suck especially when sick.

Sorry dude
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Samuel Pickfuck - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:04:39 EST 29QbCoeq No.616599 Reply
One time I got scammed buying bth from a jolly african but the guy included 1/4 of a bar, which was at least respectful.

5hcl oxy can shoot?

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- Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:45:59 EST vYqJkZrM No.616596
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Is it still possible to shoot the quick releases and would it even be worth
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Lydia Pecklewater - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:03:50 EST MXlmBZzx No.616597 Reply
No! Its like 5 mgs of oxy and 100 of filler, just eat it.
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m - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 20:23:07 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616600 Reply
>>616596
>is it possible
yes
>is it worth it
Absolutely not. At the very least, it shouldn't even be attempted without 0.22ug micron filters or at least I guess 0.45ug filters. Even then, it's quite silly. It's so much filler, and oral oxy is up to like ~80-88%+ bioavailability.

nb

coming back after a long break

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:27:59 EST qIF52LG4 No.616573
File: 1596414479813.jpg -(71136B / 69.47KB, 727x969) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. coming back after a long break
hello /opi/, long time no see
i have been clean for about 11 months now and i am finally ready to start using again.
i have about a gram of H here, but my big problem is that my veins in my arms are still fucked up beyond belief. any recomandations of where else i can shoot up? when i say my arms are fucked, i mean it. before i quit this last time i was doing subcu and IM injections.
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lol - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 00:04:22 EST oaWRMjn3 No.616578 Reply
>>616573
I went to femoral when everywhere else stopped working, will at least give you a year or two more before you die or end up losing a leg from fuckin some serious veins up. I havent shot up in my arms in close to 10 years about and the phlebotomists still cant draw blood from them let alone get an vein strong enough to take any IV action. Seriously consider it last resort though.
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JJzz !MC.Aq.K9Wo - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 04:07:38 EST wtZxGkjC No.616585 Reply
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>>616578

Very good advice, but it sounds like this guy has plenty of options left besides femoral.

OP: your legs have lots of veins, but most of them are not beginner-friendly. Your ankles are the best choice for now. Tie off right under your calf muscle. (i prefer to have the "pull" on the inside) and look at your foot/ankle.

There's a big fat vein on each side of the bone that sticks out. The inside one goes in a straight line from your big toe up to your shin, the outer one curves around the bottom of the ankle bone up your calf in an L shape. The inside one is less visible, but much easier to hit without it squirming around.

This is important because MISSING IN YOUR LEGS/FEET IS MUCH WORSE THAN YOUR ARMS due to less direct blood flow. this is especially true if you're using Dope, since it doesn't really sting when you miss.


Pic related. Start at the X. Go down if it's too deep to find, up if it's too flimsy/not deep enough
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Fucking Charryhall - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:29:46 EST qIF52LG4 No.616595 Reply
>>616578
i have always been a bit wary of shooting up in that spot, ive seen others do it but it has always scared me, maybe as a last resort like you said
>>616585
thank you so much for illustrating this, i got it and it is working perfect, just like my arms used to. seriously appreciated my man

Codeine combined with Z-drug (Ambien)

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- Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:03:35 EST wYewymhh No.616466
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I have bronchitis and was prescribed tylenol w/ codeine, however I also take ambien CR at night for insomnia.

The dosage is about 90-120 mg codeine combined with 12.5-20 mg ambien.

Is dying in my sleep from these medications a serious possibility or am I blowing this out of proportion in my mind?

I usually turn to anecdotal evidence in times like these but Google is of almost no help. The information I'm looking for is seemingly buried in an information graveyard, and a new era of search algorithm has essentially scrubbed or deprioritized any useful search results.
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Lydia Pecklewater - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 14:57:00 EST MXlmBZzx No.616592 Reply
>>616569
Thanks for your understanding on what is nothing but a personal experience:

>Do you happen to remember any specific people, their initial doses, the subjective results, and those individual person's general demographics (sex, weight, etc.)?

I kinda feel like going deep into the subject of how many people I've handled morphine to could eventually come to bite me in the ass.

>If you had to guess at a rough subjective recreational potency ratio, what would it be compared to hydrocodone? 3:2 morph:hydro? 2:1? Let us know.

I'd rather do the comparison to oxy as in europe we don't get hydro, MY PERSONAL OPINION based on me and others around me is that while morphine feels like a better, more complete high, its nowhere near oxy in terms of mg per mg strength (IR oxys for the most part).

I 100% would choose 30mgs of oxy over 60mgs of (oral) morphine.
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Samuel Pickfuck - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:00:49 EST 29QbCoeq No.616594 Reply
It's a tough comparison. I really enjoy morphine any roa too. I'd only say 30mg plugged morphine = 20mg oxy oral. 30mg iv morphine seems like it would be stronger than 20mg oxy.
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Lydia Pecklewater - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 18:07:00 EST MXlmBZzx No.616598 Reply
>>616594
Agreed nb morphine clearly has a tamer w/d and feels a lot smoother than oxy, its just unforgivingly shit on the stomach.

First Timer Advice (other than dont)

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- Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:33:21 EST OHIHxMID No.616513
File: 1596216801220.jpg -(19728B / 19.27KB, 272x186) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. First Timer Advice (other than dont)
What’s a good starting dose of some apparently pretty fire #4. I’ve never done H but I have a decent tolerance from years of ppt and pst abuse and moderate benzo tolerance too. I already got narcan guess I just need a sitter and some test strips now.
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Frederick Pushketch - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 03:19:24 EST 11S0n53t No.616528 Reply
>>616513
my personal rule of thumb when picking up a new sack of heroin is to take a small amount before taking my regular dose. usually i can smoke a hit or two or IV a small amount to determine the quality. after i get a taste i'll IV a bit more to get to a comfortable level. you can always do more but you can't undo what you took.

the one time i didn't take caution was early on into a relapse. i was already high on ~5mg of etizolam and after impatiently waiting an hour or two for my dope i immediately went into the apartment bathroom i picked up from to IV. without testing its strength i eyeballed ~50mg to IV. within seconds after injecting i knew i did too much and as i was collapsing and blacking out i yelled a friends name across the hall. after being resuscitated by the group i was told my lips had turned blue with incredibly shallow breathing. i never asked how they got me to regain consciousness but i remember while being barely conscious i told them to grab the meth pipe from my backpack , stick it in my mouth, and light it for me. the meth woke me up enough to counteract the depressant effects. this probably happened 4-5 years ago. after that incident, everyone in the group made sure to have nalaxone spray on hand at all times.
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m - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:01:18 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616570 Reply
>>616526
You're 100% right. It is indeed recommend to have a "sitter"/someone else around that would both notice if you ODed and is educated/trained in how to call 911 and ask for paramedics without automatically triggering a police visit (e.g. saying "my friend has stopped breathing" instead of "my friend overdosed"), administer narcan/naloxone from your kit, and perform rescue breaths/potentially CPR,

Traditional Opium Smoking

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 22:15:33 EST yB2lulph No.616575
File: 1596420933301.jpg -(421407B / 411.53KB, 1200x921) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Traditional Opium Smoking
are there any modern styles of pipes that can be adapted for smoking opium? most seems to have either too big an opening or small opening (for lack of a better word) is blocked by a bowl.

also how exactly "preparing" opium with yen hok needles done? I've seen vague descriptions of it but I've never seen a detailed description

How to determine "good" fent?

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- Sun, 02 Aug 2020 23:32:58 EST OJDyC4zR No.616577
File: 1596425578741.jpg -(85648B / 83.64KB, 1440x1080) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How to determine "good" fent?
Sup y'all. I live in San Francisco where there is primarily tar but I've heard that fentanyl has been around lately. I used to do lots of H back home in Louisiana where it is primarily brown powder (when I lived there anyway). I bought some 'fent' tonight that just tastes like cheap coke with a minor buzz. If I go back out looking is there a good way to spot quality shit? I ask because it feels like I have retained some sort of tolerance over the years even though I rarely use as tar has never done much for me compared to the shit I used to do.
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Hannah Sedgehood - Mon, 03 Aug 2020 01:54:50 EST WxzPnjuR No.616583 Reply
>>616577
Be careful using out there, quality varies a ton in Northern California. I can’t tell you much about quality fent powder because I use the fent pressed roxy 30s, but you will find tar out there that is straight fent and very inconsistent. This day and age I definitely recommend smoking the opiates, and even if you’re smoking it you will die if you aren’t being careful.

Limits of physical withdrawal

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- Sat, 01 Aug 2020 09:28:27 EST jPNtZ3fl No.616534
File: 1596288507069.jpg -(428337B / 418.30KB, 1137x1137) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Limits of physical withdrawal
Is there an eventual peak/cap to the severity of withdrawal? Like if you're hooked for 4 or 5 years, will the physical withdrawal be worse after that amount of time than it would 2 or 3 years, or after a certain amount of time, are you looking at the same level of brutal symptoms? I'm talking about when your tolerance reaches a point where you just use to stay well and don't get high anymore.

I've been hooked for about a year and wonder if staying hooked for another four to six months will make the physical side of withdrawal any worse, or if it'll just be the same level of shitty.
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Albert Hittingworth - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 15:10:46 EST 29QbCoeq No.616543 Reply
>>616534
It depends more on how many times you go through w/d, avg daily dose+number of times dosed/day but duration of habit matters too. I dont think 4-6months after a year will make your w/d "50%" worse so to say...
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Basil Clayfoot - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 18:23:58 EST OHIHxMID No.616545 Reply
I hear a ton of people saying WD gets worse every time and I can kind of attest to that but I also think its partly mental as a lot of WD is. Like how tf did I end up in this situation again type thing.
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Molly Davingwell - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 18:42:53 EST XvZ81YTx No.616572 Reply
I think you can reach a point you can basically feel no pleasure or good feelings without drugs. Im only in my 20s and even after long periods of no use there is an off feeling and less motivation.
I would say yes the longer you use the worse withdraw will be like 5 years will be worse than 3 and so on. You will reach a point you can't recover to 99% anymore and i think that time or age depends on your system.
I noticed barely any WD when i would use a week on week off rather than when i used everyday for over a year i didn't feel normal for months.

Heroin on top of bupe

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- Fri, 31 Jul 2020 10:24:23 EST dOWcWMTA No.616510
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I've been off dope for 5 years, and have been on bupe for just as long. I recently found ~1g of tar, and I'm going to smoke it up for old time's sake.
I take about 8mg a day, split into four doses. I'm thinking of smoking the tar today, and I've already taken my morning dose of 3.25mg.
Do you guys think I'll get a decent high out of this? I know I've built up my sub levels quite a bit, but I know that there must be some receptors available since bupe is only a partial agonist. I know a lot of people say to wait 24-36 hours after the last dose, but 12h used to be sufficient when I was on 2mg bupe a day.
Can any bupe maintenance homies weigh in on this?
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Ernest Dusslehad - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 03:09:50 EST dupTl14u No.616560 Reply
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>>616510
Of course you guys reply to my post now.
I'd like to report that I waited 12h after my last dose and nodded like a motherfucker all night.
Granted, I probably wouldn't have needed to smoke the full amount to achieve the same effect if I had waited longer, but it worked out well
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lol - Sun, 02 Aug 2020 06:36:26 EST oaWRMjn3 No.616561 Reply
>>616560
Yeah you can definitely get high really soon after taking subs it just generally took me a good bit more, waiting will obviously give you the normal effects but if most of us had the ability to wait and choose when we took something we wouldn't be in this situation.

Weird Dope

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- Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:05:14 EST ZJvNW9ov No.616406
File: 1595768714828.jpg -(710921B / 694.26KB, 2016x1512) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Weird Dope
So recently coped and dude has some new stuff i've never seen before
I'm kinda sketch on what it is though, it's not like the usual stuff i've gotten from him I smoke, and usually you can huff on the stuff and it will stick together and you can get it to ball up but this stuff wont stick together, it doesn't seem to react to being huffed on at all, it's white and when smoked it leaves a white residue in the piece. I took a few hits and didn't get my usual high I just got a strong sense of
paranoia and difficulty breathing this could just my paranoia of it being something
else. It also has a strong taste/smell of rubber or chemicals when smoked. Any
idea on what this stuff might be?

Pic related
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Augustus Duvingkore - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 04:49:59 EST WExQwSLt No.616530 Reply
>>616459
>Idk why reagent kits aren't more popular in the opi pill scene. You can directly test for say oxy, morphine, hydro, dilly, etc. in addition to using a $1-2 fent test strip.



>>616476

>My main fucking point is that OP shouldn't use this mystery powder. He doesn't even know what it is.


The answer to why people don't use test strips every time they score and why they don't throw away or test their gear if it looks suspect is pretty much the same:

>>616459
When you're an addict, your budget boils down to the price of a bag. That £2 spent on a test strip? That's 1/5th of the price of a bag. You do that everytime you score and it adds up extremely quickly. Plus you need the foresight to order them and then have to wait for them to be posted to you. It's a great idea in principle, but one that only the most casual of users will actually be able or willing to do.

Granted, the benefit to a casual user with a low tolerance is much greater than someone who is addicted and has a higher tolerance allowing them to take a potent bag without dying. I live in the UK and I've never met a user who has ever tested a bag beyond shooting a small taster shot or smoking a tester line off foil. Fentanyl in our gear is extremely rare, but even if it was, telling addicts to test their gear with strips is a fantasy, it just won't happen or work in the real world. MAYBE if the testing strips were included with injection kits from the needle exchange you might get a large proportion to do it, but the rule is if it costs money or takes time and holds up getting high, it wont be used.

>>616476

Telling people not to use sketchy looking gear after they've paid for it is an even bigger fantasy. There was a huge drought in the UK back in 2010. Gear of any quality dried up all over the country. People were selling pure bash, barb or benzo laced "gear" with 0-5% heroin, shit cut with all sorts of crap that gelled or hardened in the syringe leading people to heat the shit outta it and inject it hot even though they knew it wouldn't get them high, maybe not even get them well and would do serious damage to their veins and organs. People kept chasing gear, spending loads, kept buying crap, kept being disappointed and suffered physically and mentally. Even when they tried it and knew it was total shit, they still didn't throw the rest away, they used it, because that's what opiate addiction is. Chasing the gear, ignoring all the dangers and warning signs and doing whatever it takes to get high. Its not rational or logical and what seems crazy to an outsider is no more than a typical day for a heroin addict
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Betsy Gallersat - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 05:25:10 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616531 Reply
>>616530
Why do you need test strips for fent when Americans only get fent anyway?
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lol - Sat, 01 Aug 2020 11:19:16 EST oaWRMjn3 No.616536 Reply
>>616530
Summed it up pretty well. Until test kits are made free at exchanges they wont be used widely and even then some will still opt for getting their dope in themselves as fast as possible with no extra shit. I heard about benzos and other weird drugs being mixed with weak dope in uk and shit, wtf kind of benzos were they using? I used dope for w very long time and dont think ive ever had benzo cut well as far as i know

Anxiety of buying Codeine

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- Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:53:32 EST NNG/TMbT No.616440
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i want to take Codeine, but i wonder how many people buys cough medicine in the middle of summer? So i am kinda embarassed and anxious to do that
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m - Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:41:24 EST jv0zZnW9 No.616462 Reply
>>616461
LMAO, when I got mine removed around ~6-7 years ago, I literally received something like 60ct 5mg hydro, then another 30 5mg hydro "refill" over the phone, then 60ct 7.5mg on my first checkup visit, followed by a final 60ct 5mg on my third and last visit. not even kidding. And for the actual surgery I was given 1-2mg ativan the night before, 1-2 more ativan the morning of, and then nitrous oxide for over 10min before IV midazolam, propofol, and fentanyl to put me under.

Granted I did end up having two dry sockets on the bottom, one of which broke back open a second time 2+ weeks after the procedure. In addition, it was a dental surgeon specialist and a close family member referred me as they work in similar fields and the family member often refers their patients to this guy. So I'm not sure if that made him much more understanding.

That last script of 60ct was actually bumped down from 7.5mg to 5mg by the head nurse after the doc had written the script, due to me apparently looking and sounding impaired as shit (had taken something nuts like 40-60mg hydro that morning without more than 1-2 weeks low dose acute tolerance because the pain was just too bad from ripping open). I remember seeing the switch when she handed me the script and walked off, so I instantly opi raged and came barreling down the hallway up to the nurse. I hadn't even realized I had passed a waist-high gate that said employees only. Looking back I was not using my "inside voice."

The saddest part is I wasn't faking it and it really was that bad. But the truth is opioids only do so much for nerve pain anyways.

She walked infront of me and cut me right off before I could go find the doc or had even said 2 or 3 words, by saying something like, "the doctor's first scripted dose was a mistake and we corrected it, your pain should stop in a few minutes as we plugged your dry socket, and you currently appear impaired. Leave the employee only section immediately and have someone else drive you home. The door out is that way *points as if I'm too high for directional awareness.* Call us if the cotton pack falls out, or there's signs of infection. Feel better"

MAAAN that lady had her stop-drug-seekers-in-their-tracks routine down to a fucking science. Though she seemed to be shitty at telling real pain from fake begging.
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Frederick Huzzledale - Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:21:48 EST OmV+T9K1 No.616491 Reply
>>616440
i bought 300 mg codeine and antihistamines (so i ventured into few pharmacies that day). Euphoria starts maybe 10 minutes after dose and it lasts maybe 30 minutes, rest is just drowsy feel-good, apathetic state. I watched movie for an hour then i started playing GTA IV. I remember few years i did first hit of u47700 while playing canis canem edit. I know lot of people died because of that drug, but i dont remember feeling more happy than i was then. I guess i wanted to replicate this feeling, but its chasing the dragon, not possible to replicate with much weaker drug, times has changed a lot. So i was bit dissapointed dissapointed, but then i drank cup of hot tea and i felt really comfy, like high suddenly came back, so thats cool i guess
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Angus Hoddlemat - Fri, 31 Jul 2020 14:56:10 EST Y6/2rG0+ No.616519 Reply
256mg is one nor al otc pack of codeine? 300mg dosent make sense

PST general: where is the general you assholes edition

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- Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:30:05 EST NVDL4q8W No.615743
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Making a PST general because there seems to be no PST general on 420chan today

you know the rules

>no sourcing
>no cutesy using code/slang to source and then being all like "I wasn't sourcing bro lol"

good nods and euphoria to all
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