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PST/PPT General Thread 5.0 by WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:19:05 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577070 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Here's a new tea thread, since the old one isn't bumping anymore! Please feel free to post anything and everything about your poppy plant consumption here! Better to keep all of our faggotry (mine especially, heh) confined to one thread than allow it to spill over into the rest of /opi/! We'd love to hear all about your experiences — reviews and expiration dates help us to purchase the right bags!

We welcome anyone who'd like to take part in these threads! Come on in and name or tripfag; we don't bite! <3
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nut enthusiast - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:52:47 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.580677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Idk if this has to do with the fact that i took 10mg valium yesterday, but this is like the highest I've been on seeds. And I had the dank SN bags. I took a bigger dose than normal though. I'll explain my dosing i guess so you guys can get an idea, I don't think i have good enough perception to rate bags myself. I've been taking 2 cups of the bunk/okayish ftl/sn bags for the past month or two, and it only gets me kinda high. (slight body effects, never even CLOSE to nods.)

So I took probably like 2.5-3 cups of this stuff, and I'm not nodding or anything currently (1.5hr post dose, i just tookan extra cup 30 mins ago) ((ik that wasn't a good idea. I didn't think about it that much, just wanted to get a decentt high for once.)) But anyways, I am having a suuper good body high, best I've ever had. 10mg valium was about 20 hours ago, so i probably have like 7.5mg in me. I know this post is a mess, sorry lads..

Order wgn now, i repeat again, ORDER WGN NOW.

P.S. Should i be worried about the benzos i took? I have a very high tolerance to opiates, and i've never mixed benzos before nor have i ever wanted to (i wish i didn't take that shit yesterday tbh)

Should i be concerned for my safety? My breathing seems slightly depressed. I'm not breathing any less necessarily but it;'s easier to hold my breath when i fully exhale. Also I don't seem to be at all close to nodding, and my eyes aren't closing/being "heavy" if you guys know what i mean by that. Ik it's hard to say but If you benzo/opi vets have any wise words for me to either soothe my anxiety or make me feel better that would be great.

Again, sorry for this stupid mess of a post.
Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 23:58:26 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.580679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Should i be concerned for my safety?
No, you're fine. Your benzo dose was a long time ago, and even if you took them concurrently you'd likely be just fine*. Also, worrying about it is a great way to actually make it worse - and worrying is a waste of good high times.

So, yeah, >580651 here. I took a pound of these WGN seeds (exp. 05/18) and got a very mild high - some itchiness and slight sedation but no nods or euphoria whatsoever. I'm about to take a 1.5-lb dose and it should be groovy.

*Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional, nor do I know you and your tolerances to /opi/ and /benz/. As a wise man once told me, "only you can prevent forest fires," or some shit like that.
Wesley Shittingford - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:20:29 EST ID:KQIpcZ8H No.580680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i ordered wgn from 3 different places and all 3 of them were jack shit. don't bother with them anymore. 5/18 and 6/18
Ebenezer Sudgewater - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:35:06 EST ID:u9bYelV9 No.580681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have had 8-10 different 5 pound WGN bags, all 5/18 expiration, and they all have been unwashed . That's for sure 100%. I have a large tolerance and have been doing seeds for years so this isn't a placebo effect or some bullshit. I can feel them taking me out of physical WDs and give me a glow at my normal dose.

IDK what to tell ya......
shill nye the science guy - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 04:59:09 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.580685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What size wash did you do, and what size wash do you do normally when you have a dank bag? These aren't the legendary SN bags, dude. You're gonna probably need to dose up to compensate man. The drugs we want are in there man, it's just about getting enough out to get high. Do you use just water? Try drizzling and spreading around concentrated lemon juice over the top of the seeds before adding any other liquid, it's been doing wonders for SWIM lately my man. The alcohol groups on the citric acid molecule make for some reaaly strong attractions with the alcohol and ether groups on morphine. On the citric acid molecule there are like 11 places hydrogen bonding IMfs can occur with little steric hinderance, compared to 1 place on a water/hydronium molecule (occurance and extent of this depends on acidity and temperature) that can interact only with the ether functional group, and 4 places that can interact with the alcohol groups.

At least this is my understanding, and it could be wrong, but I did just pass the first semester of organic chemistry with an A. But, I'm also high rn, so take it with a grain of salt.

BWN Bump While Nodding by WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Tue, 23 May 2017 13:58:59 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578941 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Here's a new BWN for all of my br/opi/s! Let's hear it for SLAYER and happy nodding.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 20:48:09 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bored out of my skull, my friend is passed out on the couch (something which is happening with increasing frequency and is starting to piss me off as it's depressing to have a friend around who spends most of his time in a pseudo-vegetative state. I don't mind people nodding out but when they're snoring and drooling over themselves it's depressing as fuck, especially when you've known them before both 'drugs' and heavy downers and estimate them to have an IQ of 140+ so I've been picking challenge locks for the past hour. I have the hardest in my collection (a 5 pin door lock; which performs better than 6 pin padlocks) able to open in under 30s (sometimes in under 15s if I'm lucky.
I'd play videogames but then I'd feel like *I'm* not being sociable.

Pic unrelated, it's some blended down pods, some pills (MDMA) and some acid from 2011/12
Augustus Sishnodge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:09:41 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.580674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why post suck a shitty pic

y u post anyway not like anyone reads ur posts they just either scroll past or complain, which leads to random trips getting butthurt & sticking up for you even though ive seen most of them give you shit themselves because your pretty worthless to them & others its easy to do & you dont feel remorse like wit normal people or even anons half the time, like a number seems more emotionally relevant to me than your whole apparently fake blogging
StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:41:52 EST ID:8Gks/2Y/ No.580676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lol that pic is great and thats not true a large part of this community loves me and because its a public internet board, I can post here if I want I'm an American fuck you.

>fake blogging
Is this like fake news, are you Donald Trump?

nb not high but I hope this fucking hippie kid comes by to get this acid and drop off the pack hes been hanging onto, FREE HEROIN YA'LL
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 02:49:21 EST ID:T+ReoFYm No.580682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
where's your pic?
also, that post was hard to read because i kept looking for the closed parentheses but only kept finding open parentheses.

>ID :w9rR6Le+
i know that IP, i think... belgium?
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 04:09:13 EST ID:Yrm222X+ No.580684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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saturday night speedball yeeeeeeesssss

Venipuncture Advice Needed by brkbnd - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:13:11 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.580509 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Dear venipuncture experts,

Which of these two products (in the image) is preferable for dissolving and injecting heroin?

I have only been using the non-sodium one that only contains BnOH and I know there's something involving.. osmotic.. uh.. I know that it's damaging to your blood under a certain condition. For instance if you inject solely the BnOH water, there's this effect that damages the vein. So I'm wondering if the Sodium Chloride one will make that better.

Or better yet:
In general, when should you use the BnOH and when should you use the BnOH + NaCl?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 05:44:41 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
these can also be used to vape most research chems and work fucking great for that.
MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:23:58 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My exchange gives out 10mL plastic amps, almost all Xchanges here do and if they don't its because they dont have water at all. Regardless of the manufacturer the 10mL are the same price sometimes cheaper than the 2mL ones.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:22:20 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I use a maglite with steel wool in it for smoking DMT, the entire thing screws back together with a vial of DMT where the batteries would go, if cops ever saw it they'd pass it over as a fucking torch (flashlight) lol.
MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:04:52 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Depends very heavily on circumstances. Every cop I've ever been searched by would without a shadow of doubt, open up a torch unless it was more complicated than simply unscrewing the back.
Bombastus Werrywag - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 03:11:23 EST ID:T+ReoFYm No.580683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>maglight pipe
more info bls

no vit c or citric? by Augustus Sishnodge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:05:57 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.580673 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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filter lemon juice through a micron filter, it works well

or use proper acid if you have it. Mines on its way :)
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 23:03:13 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580678 Ignore Report Quick Reply

seriously. terrible advice. nb

Opioid Potentiation & Tolerance Thread/Tips and Tricks by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 12 May 2017 15:31:50 EST ID:G7aEe9+B No.578265 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This thread is for all questions concerning advice on how to utilize a current dose for your situation, construct a taper plan, boost your current situation/set up, and overall just start trying to do opioids "correctly".

>Switching to IV? Getting off IV? Switching from pills to PST, or some pill popping after a long pharma hiatus after 3 months of weekly PST and are wondering where your tolerance went?

We'll discuss tools like

>(low dose) dxm


>Quitting methods whether taper or CT, or switching from user back to chipper, what to take when you're off opioids to help get that tolerance down, etc.

That's my main question...

>What drugs/supplements can you consume on a regular basis to either lower tolerance gain, lower tolerance all together, etc., and which ones are for when you're using and which work all the time?
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Henry Gozzleshit - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:52:18 EST ID:ZQhl0+MY No.580658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait, is DXM supposed to only be daily, or taken with every dose? I get they're the same thing if you do one big PST wash a day, but for those of us taking painkillers a couple times a day, wat do?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:18:16 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
either take like 60-90 mg of DXM poli (like delsym the extended release stuff) in the morning when you get up every day or take like 30 mg of hbr each dose. Id say the DXM poli honestly would probably work better for this since theres a more constant level of it in the brain over the course of your day, that way the nmda antagonism isnt going way up and way down all day.
Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:17:47 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.580664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hmm nobody has said cimetidine (tagamet)? What are your thoughts on that as a potentiator?
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 19:49:45 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quoted from wikipedia
>Cimetidine affects the metabolism of methadone, sometimes resulting in higher blood levels and a higher incidence of side effects
I am interested in this
Matilda Muvinglan - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:30:06 EST ID:/eSu0zdk No.580672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've used cimetidine to potentiate erything from klonopin and xanax and temazepam to kratom and oxycontin and vicodin, two thumbs up would ingest 400mgs 45-60min prior to drug of choice/10, although I think I read somewhere that WGFJ is better and stronger than cimetidine but I dunna if that's accurate or not cause I'd totally shell out $7 for that fancy organic all-local gluten-free cage-free GMO-free WGFJ they got down at the co-op

redosing advice by Archie Buzzham - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:04:23 EST ID:gfgY24FA No.580624 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Started my weekend with 2 40s, snorted one this morning at 7 and been smoking weed n snortin ket to stay feeling good. Still feel good but feel like I want to be higher, however I also want to get high tomorrrow, so heres the dilemna -do I split pill into quarters and sniff 10mg with some k to re-bump opiate high
or leave pill intact for tomorrow, just use xanax and ket to stretch out high?

pic semi-related since that's what im after
Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:10:47 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.580638 Ignore Report Quick Reply

stretching it out just makes the high duller than if you were to just split it into two bigger doses. You wont enjoy it as much trying to stretch it out. On top of that, if you've already been through WD, using for more days in a row will increase the chance that you'll experience WD (in this situation you obviously wont get that but I'm saying as a general rule of thumb).

so if it were me, I'd just do it all today and suck it up tomorrow, especially if you aren't getting that high off 20mg (of the unspecific drug you failed to mentioned). Your only options are sucking it up and save it for tomorrow and get two mediocre highs, or use it all today and get yourself a decent opi experience. Save the ket and xanax for tomorrow and just do that instead.
Archie Buzzham - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 19:08:32 EST ID:gfgY24FA No.580667 Ignore Report Quick Reply

im back, ended up over the park huffing ether and doing ket so now looks like im doing oxy and xanax tomorrow, weird how things work. thanks for the advice tho

Pics of junk by JordanLuck - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:02:49 EST ID:N/g85y0c No.580594 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Time after time I hear people bitching about quality of dope here on the west coast claiming it underwhelming! I want to challenge that statement because although I've gotten some trash bags myself it's important to remember wherever you go, there is fire to be found!! I have here some decent quality Coachella tar heroin. This is stuff I would give a solid 8.0. It has a great taste and is easy to deal with, however when I smoke it on the foil I notice that it vaporizes too quickly and does not burn as slowly and efficiently as some of the other product out there. Got a good deal on the quarter piece (6gs) and going to get rid of it and break even
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:07:44 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh, you want to play that game do you?

NB; it's my junk..
JordanLuck - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:03:42 EST ID:5xBcYaby No.580659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Now that's a money maker!
Eliza Hollyspear - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:06:45 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.580660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dude... HOLY SHIT.... THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED... Dude i'll pay you $400 for that. Got a bitcoin address?
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:16:44 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Surely you mean 400 bitcoin. I mean there's hundreds of BRICKS of junk there man!
Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:25:28 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.580666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lowballer scum, look at those bricks. you can tell just by LOOKING at it its straight raw, i mean how often will you find junk that hasnt even been stepped on

now this guy gets it, although I usually charge 450 bitcoin for this specific strain of junk so i will think about it ok cya

Plant Habit by McSnugglefuck - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:31:14 EST ID:43U71+v/ No.580575 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm thinking about planting some poppies next year, and I have some inquiries preparing for that. Figured if I'd want to try out opiates the best way would be to grow it myself, so I won't have to negotiate with shady people and won't have access to enough material to start a real addiction if I grow too fond of it. Can't grow more at the touch of the dial button.

  • Datura Potentiation
If I remember this tidbit correctly, does datura potentiate opiates? A maximum of 10, recommended 5 seeds, was supposed to potentiate without any danger. Just checking for safeties sake that this is correct, would be good to be able to stretch out the stockpile as much as possible.

  • Optimum Intake Frequency
What would be a good frequency for making any tolerance development negligible? I was thinking probably once or twice a month at most, so I won't have to plant so many, and make them last. Would I develop a tolerance on such a schedule? (also, how long does the side effect of constipation from opiates last?)

  • Best Preparation
I'm thinking I should dry the pods and then leave to soak in something high alcohol a couple of weeks, for the least amount of work for as many doses possible. Any tips or recommendations for better ways of going about it?

Any tips in general regarding to poppies would be very welcome as well, and thank you for reading. :~)
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:08:35 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Opium Intake Frequency.

Once a month is as frequent as you can take opioids and remain non tolerant and steer as clear a possible of psychological addiction and even then its just a roll of the dice.

That's my advice.

MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:15:42 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Best preparation?
I'm not going to write out a guide. If you have fresh pods then there are so many ways to get to a usable product, some better than others and loads ending up with loads of different products.

All I'm going to say is that the method you have detailed is NOT one of them, would it work? Yes.
You need to do a LOT more reading.
Good luck OP and the best advice i can give you is to take EVRYONEs advice. Lurk more.

Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:59:36 EST ID:uYkTZ33k No.580649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Datura is like the final boss of all my trips after ibogaine.
MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:58:42 EST ID:Si70sRnO No.580652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Would you mind detailing the method + ROA for me and what you're using specifically
The psychoactive group of the nightshade family is surrounded by mystery and awe. I don't believe in the spiritual laa dee daa crap a whole lot, sure it probably enhances ibogaine and ayahuasca experiences but when it comes to Datura, Brugmansia or Belladonna you really need to respect her, because she will bite back haha.

I find these plants intoxicating, intesting, intriguing and magical.
I have some experience and am eager to hear more.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:05:41 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you want to fuck around with these it safest to use actual like pharma atropine/hyoscyamine/w/e particular one you want

OP to prep your poppies to get the most drugs out of them leave them in the ground until they stop flowering and the leaves start to die/dry up and the plant starts to turn very light brown and all the pods look brown. There should only be a little bit of pale green left in any of the leaves when you harvest them. When you harvest collect the entire plant not just the pods, chop the plant down about 2 inches above where the stem meets the ground leave the roots and very bottom stalk as these basically produce no morphine a tiny fraction of codeine and an enormous like an actually dangerous to consume amount of thebaine. Next take all the plants you harvested and hang them upside down somewhere hot and dry for at least a few days until all the plants are crispy and fully bone dry you want like 0 moisture left in them. Then i like to separate the pods and pod stems from the rest of the plant and put those in one bin and the main stalk, thick branches, and leaves in another bin or just mix it all together doesnt really matter this is just how i like to do it. Now id start with the main stalks and all that shit and leave the pods alone for a few minutes, what youre going to do is take each plant and break them all apart down to the smallest bits you can do either by hand or however, a good trick is stuff them all in a pillow case and literally just beat the shit out of them until its all broken up. Then take all the chunks and bits and throw those into a blender and blend them into as fine of dust as possible. Take all that dust and drop it in as small amount of water as possible to get the consisteny of like a melted milkshake. Now throw that in the freezer for two days. Next repeat that whole process with the pods and stems but being more careful about breaking up the pods because its generally a good idea to remove the "knot" where the stem meets the base of the pod since these things are like little rocks and most blenders can not handle them ive burned out two blender on those fucking things lol and unless you have an at least good blender you should remove the…
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Di-acetyl-bupe-acetamide or tri-acetyl-bupe by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:51:58 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578645 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you check the BWN i posted i found a new way to make a few opi analogs and in this thread ill be teaching how to apply my method to buprenorphine which makes it roughly 2-4x more potent and also seems to make it into either a full agonist or something because it adds an insane rush, crazy euphoria, and full agonist like nods. The rush was so strong i had to push my shot insanely slow to avoid vomiting and or just falling out the rush was that strong and it lasted a full hour with residual opi stimulation for another 2-4 hours and then tapering down to hardcore sedation and mad narcoleptic nods.

Ill post pictures and step by step instructions post by post. Im starting now and will post as i go.
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MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:53:34 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you kind anon.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:14:01 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just a question, would this method (GAA rather than AA) work with morphine to (even partially) acetylate it?
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:16:34 EST ID:yMkR3gDV No.580646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which bupe analog is easiest to make and safest to consume non-IV?

You didnt directly answer my question.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:25:46 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, just a heads up, but you might want to remove the EXIF from your photographs before you upload them. LEO definitely use sites like these and even if you don't have GPS info in your EXIF, the serial number for your phone will be in the EXIF file, or at least code unique to that phone only.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:19:16 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just slap it with AA if you want easiest. As i said before i find that even with aa it helps to run it twice. Thats def a goodun and is fast and easy to make.

Ive heard 99% GAA can be used to selectively make 6-mam, not really sure how much i trust that so take it with a grain of salt. Adding a dash of sodium acetate might be enough to push it over the edge to form 6-mam but again im not positive.

DIY morphine to oxymorphone by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:22:52 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580639 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i was reading and happened upon to separate patents that i realized had the potential to be combined into a single reaction.

The first involves converting morphine to to its ketone, morphinone. Which is a 3-hydroxy-6-ketone analog of morphine pretty similar to hydromophone molecularly but somewhat toxic and only the strength of codeine.

So you first covert your morphine to morphinone as described here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1384246

To do this all you need is morphine, either Fe2+ or Fe3+, ascorbate, H2O2, and EDTA (Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid) which is possible to obtain and as far as i know not like a watched chem thats gonna throw up flags with all sorts of agencies.

I only have access to the abstract but if somebody wants to buy the full paper i can do a more complete write up of the whole process. Heres the abstract copypasted

Hydroxyl radical-mediated conversion of morphine to morphinone.
  1. The hydroxyl radical-mediated conversion of morphine to morphinone (MO) was examined as an alternative to the enzymic reaction. 2. Hydroxyl radicals were generated by autoxidation of ascorbate in the presence of iron and EDTA. This system oxidized morphine to MO which was identified by h.p.l.c. and t.l.c. The reaction was dependent on the concentration of added Fe2+ and required the addition of ascorbate when Fe3+ was used. 3. Catalase inhibited production of MO whereas superoxide dismutase (SOD) had no effect. Addition of a large amount of H2O2 to the system resulted in a significant decrease in production of MO. No MO production was initiated by H2O2 itself. The oxidation of morphine was inhibited by typical hydroxyl radical-scavenging agents. These results indicate that morphine undergoes oxidation to MO by hydroxyl radical.

From that it sounds like there is very little work involved from what ive read about how this works.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:32:23 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The patent is actually an excellent read even if you dont intend to try to do any of it just really good interesting and innovative chemistry. It also describes a shit load of other things to do with morphinone and codeinone. I think i even saw a three step one pot reaction that converts codeinone into oxycodone, via H2O2 + mild acid and then hydrogenation with a pd/c catalyst all in the same soup of reactants. It also list a buuunch of ways and things to do with nor-morphinone and nor-codeinone (meaning they removed the n-methyl) id love to try some of the amino substitutions i saw. i didnt read all of them just like the first 15 or so reactions, there was a shit load all crammed into one patent for some reason.

nb that was all

Bitter Mouth / Back of throat - Wtf by brkbnd - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 01:42:09 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.580593 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>tldr: why I taste bitter after IV?

Whether it be clean&expensive #4 powder, or some potent black tar, it's possible for me to have this bitter (perhaps opioid-chemical-like) taste manifest in the back of my throat. And it will last there for a while.
My previous batches of H didn't have this effect, however my recent ones have - so perhaps it has more to do with the body than the drug batch.

Any explanations?
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 05:20:42 EST ID:Yrm222X+ No.580610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That 'taste' effect is common to all intravenous drugs. The taste differs with each drug. Opioids tend to have that bitter taste because that's just a character of their type of molecule. To be honest, a strong bitter taste when you shoot is a sign of more pure gear if anything. And the actual mechanism behind the taste I'm not entirely sure of but it's to do with the immediate mixing of the chemical into your bloodstream and the back of your tongue being affected by it.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 07:25:19 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
uh weird i submitted a post saying exactly this and apparently that one didnt post either. I seem to be having issues with my posts not actually going through.
MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:47:09 EST ID:LLOkl3GY No.580617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Given that ones tongue and taste buds is made up of tiny blood vessels or capillaries when the blood they carry contains certain molecules its almost like putting that substance on your tongue except it's in your tongue.
Given the tongues proximity to the brain and the heart im assuming blood flow to that area is given priority once the Heroin or other substanced makes it back to your heart and is then pumped to your tongue and everywhere else.

I'm sure if one IVed Limonene or whatever that lemon oil is, or god forbid Capsaicin then one would taste lemons and or chili. Ouch.

Thats about as detailed as my biological explanations are going to get.
Someone correct me if this isnt the case
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:06:47 EST ID:wHAvn2tX No.580626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've heard a few hypotheses/theories in my years as to why you can smaste (smell and taste) a drug after use, even personally thinking it was something to do with there being opioid receptors in your olfactory bulbs (part of the brain that controls your sense of smell and taste) however the hypothesis that it's to do with the fact that you're exhaling a miniscule amount of the drug seems to be the one that holds the most weight, simply because you can't smaste your gear when you don't breathe out.
I fucking love the smaste feeling. Takes me higher.

potential OPI RCS by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 07:23:56 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580614 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Alright guys id like some input on a few unscheduled opi RCs im considering getting custom synthed. Id love it if a few people could take a look at them and see if any of them sound appealing or like something youd want to try. theres a bunch so give feedback or dont idc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprefadol Specifically the N-Phenethyl sub of this not the cyclopropyl shown here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciramadol specifically diacetyl-ciramadol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faxeladol specifically acetyl-faxeladol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC-26 although id love to see this one with the sulfone group replaced with a nitro group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalbuphine for use as a precurser to some way better full mu-agonists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picenadol specifically (3R,4R) Picenadol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZM21 another im very interested in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cebranopadol this im less sure about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorophen this is one of the ones im most interested in pursuing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dezocine or maybe n-phenethyl-dezocine either way this one is almost at the top of my list of interest
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Nicholas Dennerville - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:42:21 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.580616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What stim are you on
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:35:37 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.580643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a bunch but mostly i was bored and ive basically been doing nothing but reading up on my chemistry for the past month, well and playing rising storm 2 vietnam

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