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PST/PPT General Thread 4.0 by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:54:55 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571991 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Wow 1503+ posts of getting high af. Shout out to the anon who made version 1.0 of this thread.

You know what to do. This thread is ALL things poppy. PST, PPT, flake opium, mystery goo (what should I do?), memes nobody else understands, irrelevant political images, softcore fat black women nobody wants to see in private let alone be seen by others viewing said women at work/school (really man? really?), weeaboo shit (sigh...ohhhhhkay), topics related to the two or three posters actually qualified or smart enough to converse about flake opium production (but really please do it's so intriguing, and if you're not one of the two of three keep trying anyways and get back to us!), and of course legal/policy discussion. (Seriously, I'm ready to discuss poppy seed and pod regulation; I have my sources and constructive arguments mentally organized, finally, and would love to hear counterarguments from other academics/intelligent laymen).

If you post a pst question somewhere else about any of these things, chances are it's in the wrong place Unless you're a speedballing StimLion, then yeah your beautiful weeb contributions to this board (never stop doing you, live and let live, I guess) probably does belong in the BWN or elsewhere, not here (simply because you're not a PxT guy).

If it's ANYTHING poppy, ask it in here.

Enjoy your morphine with the tiniest dash of codeine and other goodies that makes every bag like smoking a new strain of mystery hybrid weed. It's been five and a half long ass grueling days [%]before this not-so-anon anon expected a last minute piss test related to getting scripted benzs and tl;dr my southern doc delayed the process by reccomending xanax or equivalent in writing to my new northern doctor(s) without actually scripting me anything, so I got nothing tangible in return for the horrible wait and I now feel like garbage and had no chance to dose up all day until after my flight landed,
so I surely will in just a bit.

If anyone is concerned, mildly interested, or has side bets as to whether I'll ever get clean/get better/get divorced/begin shooting smack/eventually die of an OD, I'm actually getting monitored medical help now (GP, MD Psychiatrist, possibly MD addiction/maintenance specialist) and my life has 180'd for the better even while being encouraged to stay on this stuff, for now. My wife's happy, I'm happy, so life is good. But I have to prove the changes I seek through future effort and action.

Anyways, less about me, MORE about you! Lurk forever but afraid to come out and get involved? Be a Trip in our own containment thread! We're one big happy pesticide pouring, goat-shit guzzling family ! We need more people to provide their life stories for entertainment, something the marginalized or isolated people can relate to or resonate with, and to get me the fuck out of the spotlighting in our corner of the universe. If you're committed to being an anon for life, please at least stop by and post hello when you read this thread! If you're high and usually post in the BWN, atleast post here first and then in the BWN so that the BWN remains on top while we accumulate post counts that reflect the level of seed/pod/puddy/straw consumption that's actually consumed by our micro community.

Got a bunk bag? Sipping on some fire brew? Let us know, in acronyms, where and when (expiration dates) your source is from! Please do it here and not on the great winding River market. That will be the death of us. If you must, rate 5 stars and don't use any words.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:52:52 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572660
Ye I get that sometimes. Probably has to do with the drugs in the PST.
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Betsy Chiddleville - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:31:56 EST ID:KlMT5bFf No.572674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572664

Fuck. Any way to deal with it besides drinking loads of coffee to keep yourself awake? Even if I dose PST as early as possible to give it time to wind down if I get decently high I'll end up staying up for a good part of the night waiting to get as sober as I can be so I'm not gasping in my sleep. Might also be due to the fact that I take tricyclic antidepressants daily (which increase sedation to some extent) but afaik there's no negative interactions with respiratory depression / TCAs because I used to nod on heroin / get blackout drunk on alcohol while on them so I don't think they're the reason. What do you do if you need to sleep and still feel short of breath?
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:04:52 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571991
dubs and i'll do PST
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:45:46 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572655
It's usually Dr_Mario but I forgot my password so sometimes I'll do Dr_Mari0

I try to keep it logged in but I get kicked occasionally. I'll hop on now, hope to hear from you

>sold my 10/3 bags for profit on Craigslist, got 3 10/9 red bags from SN HQ
>just about the same; looks like I was shipped super old stock for some reason
>fuck I'm out of my 6lbs of banana chips and am fiending for them why didn't I buy more from SN

During vacation/break I was drinking booze again and taking 0.5mg xanax + 2.4mg etizolam at night with a 2oz shot of ~60% ABV peach moonshine+ day drinking beers all day maybe 6-10 beers. This was for over 2 weeks constantly (xanax was freely given by parents), so I sort of got addicted again.

I've been on the daily PST use again as I dropped off the etizolam again, like max 1.2mg daily but for 5 days it was like 1.2mg 0mg 0mg 0.6mg 0mg and 0.9mg last night...so as is.

But the PST had been bad again lol. Never over 8oz but still bad. I mean my school work "begins" on Monday or Tuesday and that's when I get monitored again, and we both know 4oz is enough to keep daily users of 12oz or less pretty much out of WD.
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Shitting Pitthood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:10:45 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.572823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking to reduce my tea down into a paste in a sauce pan. Is boiling okay or should I just let it sit at the steaming stage? I'm getting a lot of conflicting advice on at which temp. it will destroy the alkaloids.


Suboxone by Dr. Katz - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:21:48 EST ID:3iv//5Xw No.572809 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Cross post from /benz/
Drank 10 oz. WGFJ 30 min before taking 20mg diazepam, 0.5mg alprazolam, & 10mg cyclobenzaprine
Debating on taking 2-4mg suboxone. Only had it once before when I was already blackout drunk, on clonazepam/lorazepam/cyclobenzaprine, and continued drinking. Was sick for 3 days after -- July 2nd to the 5th. Unknown dosage, but the pills were massive compared to the 2mg/0.5mg ones I have now. I assume the others were a much higher dosage since a quarter fucked me up and came from a previous roommate's girl who had a major daily opiate habit.

I know that the booze/benzos/muscle relaxers didn't help my case, but is that abnormal when taking subs without an opiate habit? I dabble with oxys and hydros every few months. I can take up to 20mg oxycodone + booze + benzos and I'm solid. I've had up to 35mg hydrocodone + a pint of whiskey + benzos before as well. I've never taken more than that at once before. Been on and off RX'd hydros/tramadol since 2009 for various injuries (less than 1 30 count script a year). I tolerate all opiates well. Plenty of RX'd codeine and tussinex as well throughout my life.

So, /opi/, thoughts? Abnormal reaction? Bad idea? I won't be drinking at all.
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:24:53 EST ID:3iv//5Xw No.572810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572809
Also, I've had every major prescription opiate for medicine/recreation besides hydromorphone (chose oxymorphone instead) and fentanyl.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:37:30 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572809
youre reaction was not abnormal at all buprenorphine is actually an extremely strong opi so im not surprised you were sick for days previously. when i share mine with someone who doesnt have an opi habit i only give them 2 mg and that usually has them high and sometimes even nodding for like 20 hours. Since youve already taken a number of other drugs id suggest either starting with .5 mg or 1 mg then see how your feeling in an hourish. if you need more increase by .5 mg.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:16:39 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Start low, 0.5-1mg (already been posted) is definitely the perfect amount to start with; I've seen people get extremely sick off low doses of subs before (<5mg) and they usually keep vomiting for 24+ hours.
Bupe doesn't act immediately (it usually takes roughly an hour to fully begin working, if not longer) and it's usually 1+1=5 when mixing benzos + opiates (and/or alcohol), you're not going to miss out on anything great by starting low.

You're not physically dependent on opiates, are you? Precipitated withdrawal is horrible and liable to cause you to take significantly more bupe (which along with the benzos is a terrible idea), if you are physically dependent you might want to wait until you're sick or if you're not, start low.

Bupe is supposed to be 50x more potent than morphine, though in terms of CNS depression and physical effect it's only about 20x more potent.
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:06:22 EST ID:egPHfrW3 No.572822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the info and warnings! I appreciate it.

>>572812
I had no idea that 2mg could be that strong for someone.
I will definitely start low at 0.5mg and bump up if necessary.

>>572814
Yeah, completely understand that. I've mixed benzos, booze, and opiates enough times to know to start low. I just didn't realize how low to start with suboxone.

And no, I'm not physically dependent. I'll take opiates once every couple months and not touch it again for 2-3 months. As far as medicinally, I never get more than one opiate script a year, well, not since 5-8+ years ago, but I've never been one to abuse my opiate scripts.


Fake Oxy Listings by Martin Sazzletere - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 22:13:32 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.571725 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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its BS
dont believe it
theres a reason its never been sold before, it always turns out to be bs

2 good 2 be true
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:55:30 EST ID:xvcUrlAH No.572788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had a homie whose dad used to get 40mg hydrocodone capsules from a compound shop and during PE, we (the stoners) would sit out and he'd dump a couple on my student ID and pass it around and rail it.

I've also had my hands on an OC160 and a 120mg oxycodone capsule from the same compound shop as the hydrocodone. I know it breaks disbelief but there is a huge elderly population in my home county, and a lot of these old people are rich and have good insurance.

I've also come across injectible morphine ampules, but they belonged to my best friend's grandmother who I love dearly and so I didn't take any as the thought of fucking her over made me cringe. Not to mention I hardly IV'd.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:18:37 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ketamine is everywhere in the UK, though it's a bit of a circle drug used by /psy/ types.

Recently I got hold of 250mg alprazolam (I wanted to make sure it was legit so I offered to bring my mag stirrer and measuring cylinders down and get the powder into solution (prop glycol) for the guys selling it), GBL used to be available from alloy wheel cleaner and when they stopped that; nail polish removal pads.
I've gotten 28 oxy 80s for £55 before, I've seen the pics of them re-posted here a few times and should have the originals somewhere on a USB stick.
Powdered benzos seem to be readily available from darkweb sites.
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William Bunbury - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:33:42 EST ID:QVQF4+Z7 No.572793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571772
I used to get vials of IV morphine 10mg/30mg, Fentanyl & Hydromorphone & midazolam from an undisclosed source, shit those were the fuckin dope days. Banging up 30mg vials of morphine before going to class
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Ian Blackspear - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:15:57 EST ID:ljNwNa+Z No.572818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>571784
I used to work for a pharmacy, we stocked vials of ketamine but never actually received a prescription for them. Would have been to risky to take as an employee, stuff like hydrocodone with high turnover/pill loss is easy to nab because nobody cares.

However, there was a period where the pharmacy was having to change sites, and for a few months we were put in a mobile trailer. That shit had like zero security, we probably got broken into and robbed almost 10 times in those couple of months. A LOT of ketamine probably made its way to the street, because we would have to re-order it to keep it stocked just in case and then it would get stolen again lol.
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Polly Lightlock - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:00:43 EST ID:5T5t7+z6 No.572821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i saw that the day they came out. not that oxycodone and methadone can't be clandestinely syntetized (waaaay weirder shit has been been proven to have gone around) but this particular listing is fake. its a fentanyl analog mixed with a unknow obscure drug. my particular chinaman has been selling this too, all his previous drugs (including plenty of drugs illegal in mainland china) have been real and tested. many, MANY different chinese vendors have been selling this same batch of fake oxy powder, it may be a distributor passing it down the line to retail vendors. we know legality is really a non issue with the chinese, considering M1 and meph are available and tested real.

dont buy it

https://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=4909


BWN - new year, new veins by Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:42:28 EST ID:2Y6vqw0i No.572306 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post about drugs that attack your opioid receptors and how you abuse them

Hydromorphone
Oxycodone
Codeine
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Clara Snodstone - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 12:16:05 EST ID:BSkvzGMv No.572799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572306 just got a new connect and FUVK this china is fire. snorted three lines, got a nice little baggie left for the day. smiling hard because my old connect had the shittiest shit but the only guy I knew in town. now back to that good dope :-}
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StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:44:04 EST ID:BwYypljr No.572804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Did a cotton wash this morning woke n shote. Went on a lighter run.

Smoked a bit of a blunt.

Napped. Gonna shoot 70mg later and then I'm spent for a sec. Fuck I wish we had fully working Internet rn, I wanna try watching Charmed again and see the new Little Witch Academia anime!
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Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:50:18 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572804
Hey do you play LoL or just DotA?
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StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:20:50 EST ID:BwYypljr No.572808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BWN

Just did a 20mg shot, feelin pretty swanky. Im on a rotation/amph break so I'm mainly tokin, drankin, dissin, but Im doing h twice a month when we get paid. When I do do h I generally do it all in one quick binge rn.

>>572806
None of the above actually. I've played SMITE and I'm planning to play HotS. I haven't gotten into moba really yet, but I'll probably get into League or DotA at some point since I'm gonna start doing Twitch.tv soon!
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:54:03 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got that (what I presume is caused by) thebaine body load spreading through my stomach and limbs on the come-up of some PST. Won't be long now...


Urine Test question by Hedda Blinningshaw - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:56:34 EST ID:iqb1JrVn No.572757 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i last used half a gram of H on wednesday i have a urine test for a job coming up on monday will i be okay or should i buy one of those detox drinks? im 5'7 and weigh 200lbs
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William Bridgeshaw - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:29:53 EST ID:5Y9YUHdz No.572761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:46:00 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572761
>dicks everywhere
thank you based kirt
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:32:48 EST ID:xvcUrlAH No.572819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you will probably be okay. Drink lots of water.


Opiate withdrawal day 8 by Martha Sicklefoot - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 03:14:54 EST ID:gV9riQAq No.572630 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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8 days ago i cold turkeyed from suboxone after being on it for close to a year. I expected withdrawals to be bad because i didn't do much of a slow taper before coming off, but I am now in day 8 and I'm still getting some fairly debilitating physical withdrawal symptoms. Does it usually last this long? last time I withdrew i was fine by day 5. Im wondering if loperamide may be prolonging the withdrawals as I am using it to block me up? any help would be appreciated
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 04:40:59 EST ID:xvcUrlAH No.572779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572778
also don't get me wrong; it's usual for them to last over a week. Most of my friends have had them be over in about 2 weeks.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 04:53:05 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572765
Any other opioid will interact with the withdrawal process, so making sure you have supply enough for a slow taper isn't a bad idea.
Where do you work in the medical field? You might be close enough to a competent doctor who will help you quietly, everyone makes a number of 'key mistakes' in their lives; if you're going to a doctor to get straightened out you might actually come away from things a bit better off.
Xanax is probably a bad choice for sleep due to it's extremely short duration of action; an intermediate acting benzo (eg. temazepam, clonazepam) would probably be better suited for getting sleep.
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Jarvis Gudgeshaw - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:18:32 EST ID:q8yU1Grv No.572815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm in the same boat as you OP. I'm on day 6 after quitting sub cold turkey from 4mg a day (was on it for about 9 months total).

I think it's bullshit that both standard issue maintenance drugs (bupe and methadone) have the longest half-lives. At least in the case of methadone I almost think it'd be better just to taper someone with morphine or heroin.

My buddy went through his methadone taper flawlessly but as soon as he went from 1mg to 0mg the withdrawals started and he feels like shit now. I've never had much faith in tapering because it always seems like you're prolonging the withdrawal instead of just getting it over with. Cold turkey has its drawbacks as well though. There really is no simple way of quitting opiates. It's always going to be a battle IME
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:42:31 EST ID:PV/gC808 No.572816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got cut off methadone a week back when I busted my leg cuz of my tox screen. 4 days 150mg in kadians then yesterday and today 10mg (that's right) kadian. All I have is a first full of nabilone and a few other obscure pharmaceuticals. Pre buprenorphine withdrawal can suck, earned I guess for being a failure on methadone as I was told. Back on fucking Suboxone I guess......
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:47:18 EST ID:PV/gC808 No.572817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>572816
Made a new stencil though. Had to have someone run and spray it for me. Pretty immobilized cuz of the leg, couldn't do nothing right?


Kratom widtdrawals by Sophie Dartworth - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:17:52 EST ID:QH6B7I4X No.572807 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was taking like 3-8 grams per day for the past six months and just ran out by accident.
3 days without so far and withdrawals are very mild. Just like a minor common cold so im considering just stopping for a while.
Even got the delivery by now and its literally no problem to not use it.

All I can say I was almost as comfy as when I used to do tramadol daily and in comparison the withdrawals are a joke

WHY THO? The internets brought up some horror stories when researching it.

>Is Kratom really this much of a godsent?
>Does switching the "strain" every few days really work? (I did this)
>is that dose just really low and Im lucky my tolerance is a joke?
>or is the worst yet to come??
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:32:12 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572807
the amount youre taking isnt enough to cause really bad w/ds. also switching the strain doesnt reduce w/d but it can help if the kratom youve been taking isnt doing the job anymore sometimes a different strain can still feel good.


Parcipiated Withdrawals. Subs. by Eliza Gummerridge - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:12:05 EST ID:yLu7GQKc No.572758 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So , yesterday I tried to get onto suboxone. I was using fent, and waited about 20 hours. felt pretty sick. I've been on it in the past so i was like what the hell. The nurse gave me 4 miligrams. I didn't precipitate. I felt silghity worse, but I didn't really notice. She gave me 8 miligrams more, then all hell broke lose. Was so fucking sick instantly. sweating my balls off. worse withdrawals i've ever experienced. even worse than day 3 withdrawals. I was so fucked. I looked up online. and most things said wait 24 hours then take more do the suboxone induction. Or use and you feel better. I used. I had a friend who doctored me up. If he hadn't been there, i would not have been able to hit the vein. or cook up my shoot . i fixed up a P. and was alright for a couple hours. I took me 6 hours to get some cash. by that time I was completely fucked again. I fixed up a Quarter. My friend doctored me up again. This held me unti this morning and I fixed up another Q. Went out and made my cash. Around 6 parcipiated WD's came back. Fixed up and am currently okay.

What the hell do you do in this situation? The nurses had no idea. They wanted to give me more suboxone. and i was like fuck that. Without my friend to doctor me, i would of for sure ended up in the hospital. How long does this shit last? I got another fix for tonight before i sleep. And a fix for the morning. It seems like a quater is lasting about 8 hours, then im back into the hellish wds. Worst fucking experience and pain in my life. Even just going without dope for a few days, is nothing compared to that feeling. 2 year user.

Shit fucked my day hard.
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Eliza Gummerridge - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:18:53 EST ID:yLu7GQKc No.572759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm getting the fent from a dial a dope number. the p's and q's are the same size as you would get H. just a lot stronger. Obviously not banging a quater of pure fent. Just for reference. Was pissed tested before on tuesday. tested postive for fent and cocaine. nothing else.
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Eliza Gummerridge - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 01:01:45 EST ID:yLu7GQKc No.572767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone, have any solid advice. I guess i'm far enough that i'm just going to keep using. but, what the fuck. The internet is filled with conflicting advice. No bump.
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:31:10 EST ID:xvcUrlAH No.572784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572767
straight up, wait as long as you can, then just dose a couple subs and knock yourself out with some benzos. Try as hard as you can to not use until the PCWD's go away because it's for the better. Getting on suboxone will improve your life a lot, and you need this.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:36:34 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You could always try methadone, it doesn't have a ceiling dose like bupe does (32mg for bupe), you could always try more bupe though if you're using lots of fent then coming off it is going to be extremely hard.
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Martha Dirrytig - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:26:43 EST ID:cwwzq/KV No.572802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been there op, with u47, 80mg per hour habit.
I was in a rest room in a wawa, alot 50 miles away from home, and shot 8mg of subs. I was shitting non stop, eyes dilated, drenched, dizzy and hallucinating for 45 mins, and then it kind if receded in waves to a drunken, in a bad way, stupor, and drive home feeling like my cat was a hover craft. Like I knew it wasn't, but it felt like it wasn't touching the road, just gliding over it.

I rode that one out until more u47 came.

The point is that after you've built up a big ass habit, there comes a point when your daily need for opiates exceeds the max effect subs can have in your receptors.when you cross that line, no amount if subs will make you right. Taking subs, no matter what, will make you sick. I think, theoretically, if one was past that point, you could withdraw for for multiple days until your tolerance dropped to where subs would help, but you would still need days without using, in the hellish wds, so that doesn't really help.

My only advice is that you could try a rapid methadone taper. It used to be a thing in the 60s, but supposedly methadone doesn't affect the same receptors as regular opis, like one goes after the mu-1 and meth goes after mu-2 or something. So using the methadone for 3-5 days wont make you dependant. I was successful using that method, but the explanation sounds bogus.
I needed like 400mg of methadone to do it, and each day I took less and less.
Alternatively taper down then jump to subs.


weird red spotches after i IV'd bupe by Hedda Fumblemock - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:50:10 EST ID:4XtVqNvT No.572745 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so lately ive been IV'ing buprenorphine pills and ive been an IV user for 2 years straight and this has never happened to be more [pic related]. it doesnt burn, or hurt, or anything its just a shit load of red blood dots around the crook of my arm. anyone know what this is? or how its caused? thanks so much.
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 04:31:58 EST ID:xvcUrlAH No.572777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572768
likely petechia or a histamine reaction. Try taking some antihistamines and see what happens.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:03:37 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You did filter the pills, right?
Was the tourniquet very tight? You loosened the tourniquet after you registered, right? Was there a sharp pain when you got the vein?

I've had stuff like this happen in my hands before (likely due to me spinning an arm to get blood to move into the hand for an easier register), it's not painful at first and gets rather itchy over a few days but always went away. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the chance that you may have hit an artery.
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Beatrice Babblesirk - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:04:42 EST ID:5T5t7+z6 No.572782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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its petechia, asshole. i've seen it. dont let that picture on wikipedia confuse you, thats was a really severe case of large spots over 1cm, where yourse are minor and 3mm in size. its a minor bleed from broken capillary blood vessels. you busted a blood vessel.
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!8NBuQ4l6uQ - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:20:33 EST ID:320VALK/ No.572801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572768
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Hedda Fumblemock - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:28:43 EST ID:4XtVqNvT No.572803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572782
thank you! its slightly going away today. never had that happen before. thanks for the help/info all.


How to consume opium? by breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 02:42:19 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572770 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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To be clear, opium = dried collections of scratched poppy goo, right? Or maybe there's an intermediary step.

Well what's the best bang for your buck way of getting high with it?
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Charlotte Clishworth - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:09:59 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.572789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
plugging is way best
smoking is fun novelty
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Graham Blackcocke - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 08:27:54 EST ID:vT6392Je No.572794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572789
>fun novelty
But opium itself is basically just a fun novelty. Frankly smoking it was fucking fantastic as I suddenly understood where all those 19th century poets were coming from. If you want to get seriously high don't even bother with opium imo and besides sticking it all up your ass sounds like way more hassle and unpleasantness whereas smoking it is actually quite noice. Actually I think some people here simply prefer sticking drugs up their ass. Some of them like shooting no matter what it is, others stupidly insist on snorting things even if they're benzos.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 09:39:31 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572770
There's raw and refined opium OP.
If you're only producing a small amount oral raw should be fine, if you're making a larger amount refining it may be a good plan, especially if you plan on smoking it. Refinement is as simple as getting raw opium, dissolving it in water (gently heated) and straining through a cheesecloth which removes lots of the plant matter in the opium.
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Doris Sigglestock - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 10:47:50 EST ID:ylxfgofY No.572797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just take it orally, smoking it is a waste unless you have a proper opium pipe, which I doubt you do.
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 14:26:44 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572797
Opium pipes are just old school vapes, a light-bulb pipe can do the same.
If OP has enough to smoke, then he should try smoking a small bit, if he doesn't then oral is likely the best way to go.


What Gauge to get? by breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:34:13 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is 31 too small? I would think the smaller the better, as it's less painful.
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breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 02:52:30 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So using some relatively purer DNM dope, about what concentration can I reasonably go up to with only 1mL syringes? How many mg?

And yeah, after I run out I'll get some 29,30, if the 31 are bad.
I need to find some guides somewhere first...
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:08:18 EST ID:BIZZS4D8 No.572774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572772
Great this helpful PDF.
http://harmreduction.org/drugs-and-drug-users/drug-tools/getting-off-right/
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Baron Von Feelsgood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 05:15:50 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.572783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572774
That manual 1000x times.
As for no surprise interrruptions; that brought me back to the time I tried to rig up in one of the new self-cleaning public toilets.
Put a lighter to a spoon and the PA starts shouting "stop smoking" then the door opens while it's still yelling at me.
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StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 06:15:44 EST ID:bG2eZd+l No.572790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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31's are aight. I used to mainly use em before I got more into IV, which now I switched to 29 gauge 1cc 1/2th inches.

31's are really good for hitting hand veins, if you're tryna hit deeper veins like the lower arms you'd be better off with a longer needle. I generally just get the 100, ten packs of 10 box from Walmart's pharmacy for 12$ a box.
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StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:05:51 EST ID:bG2eZd+l No.572792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh btw I'd ask you if want any tips on IV, but I'm gonna just do it anyway because if you shoot you know how awesome it is to even just talk about it. I am a padawan phlebotomist instructed by jedi master Jah himself!

For clogs like the first reply mentioned theres a couple lil tricks to deal with that. The quick fix for clogging is to set the liquid about 30 units away from the barrel pull back and push in the plunger quickly with a bit of force without going past the 10 unit mark and squirt out your drugsblood. For serious clogs you wanna squirt your load (hehe) into a cap or other container, take your needle and pull out the plunger. Fill it with warm water and squirt that through into the sink, do that about 5 times. Should unclog your needles and is good to "clean" it out a lil if you're gonna reuse it, which personally I try not to do or at least minimize to 2-3 reuses tops.

If you don't have a cooker you can cut an empty pop can with a utility razor at the bottom end with the dip about close enough for a lighter to be able to be held under it and heat the "bowl". Wash the dip with alcohol first so the black ink serial at the bottom washes off. Beats the hell outta a spoon.

You wanna keep the bevel, the end of the needle, up. That is the \ part at the tip being upwards, when you roll the needle in your fingers you can tell by the shine that lets you see the hole. Keep the bevel on the level to shoot up somethin deliciously devil!

If you ain't lookin to share needles you should know you can tell a freshie by the lil gap fresh needles are set to at about 5 units when you first get em. Also when you draw back the plunger it'll have a lil resistance at first.

Learning the one hand method for drawing back isn't easy but it can help especially if you're like me and have unsteady hands. I suffer from a mild familial essential tremor so drawing back isn't too easy for me. Also gripping the barrel with two or three fingers to it steady it is helpful to get precision shots, but also the first part of the one hand drawback. Once you hit hold the needle a bit pressed against your arm and with two fingers draw back the plunger. I used to draw back with my teeth lol.

Warm compress for abscess keep 10 units back for an air pocket to fill with blood once you hit, rotate arms/veins so they don't collapse, the first ones to go are generally the newbie ones on the crooks of your arms, and the "ol faithful" as I call it are your wrist veins which tend to bulge, plus you wanna start down towards your hands then work up. Also I can't stress this enough, but HYDRATE. It's a lot easier to see and hit your veins, plus water is good!

I could go into advanced techniques I was taught like rotating and repoking the needle if a vein rolls while you're already stuck in, but I think that's good for now.
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ANTI BWN - F U CK SOBRIETY by Hunter S. Nodson - Wed, 14 Dec 2016 14:45:47 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.570609 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Shiettt, I rarely get over here anymore. Sorry yall. Come in my thread and bitch about your lack of drugs

sniffling, sneezing, and sweating at work here, wooooo
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Ernest Brunkinnudge - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:50:08 EST ID:dtrOfYkY No.572742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572741
just a word to the wise:
don't give money for drugs if you're not getting drugs back in exchange
it's a sorry drug dealer who isn't carrying
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Sidney Ganderdut - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:18:33 EST ID:lav73YCS No.572750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572742
Dude literally handed me an empty square of foil (common here ) im sick af
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StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:51:17 EST ID:bG2eZd+l No.572752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awaiting pick up as we speak!

Gonna boot up and study witchcraft!
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Angus Dizzlestock - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 22:46:16 EST ID:LjzIX49S No.572756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>572750
Is this a new connect cause something similar happened to me today. Basically some new kid started at work this week I and found out he did blues, so he was able to get me 12 so flipped him one for helping me since my regular guy doesn't get till the 2nd. During the week he asking to go halves on a 10 pack but i would go pick up with his sister and he would get me back today payday.

Sure why not i was planing on keeping all 10 and keep 5 as hostage til i saw him the next day but i fucked up and didn't realize his sis took the other 5 but whatever i still got my 5, sucks laying out double though. Dont think he showed for work today, but he texts me later saying he was going to cop and get me back. Well as i expected i get some crazy runaround story about he got sold fakes and when he went back his sis gets smashed with a hammer(sounds familiar) and some other shit. Well i i guess i got beat unless he shows up Monday and i see him in person.
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William Bridgeshaw - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:17:08 EST ID:5Y9YUHdz No.572766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trying to get clean off h, ive had some health scares these past couples of weeks. i passed out in my washroom before trying tapering, ended up coming to and finding myself drenched in blood from a gash on my head. pretty lucky i woke up at all lol. i probably shouldnt be coming to opi or 420chan in general, but you guys always have a lot of tips. ive got some tricks up my sleeve (kratom)


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