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Kratom strains

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 16:39:52 EST pP9ksngJ No.609612
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I have tried green maeng which is balanced to the side of energizing and motivating while relieving pain and tiny relaxation. But it's not suited for sleeping because it's too stimulating. I haven't tried any other strain like the red ones, do those make you sleepy in low-medium doses or are you able to carry on with normal activities?

Green maeng is very good daytime strain for me but Im looking for a different balanced strain that errs more on the side of relaxing / pain killing side while also being energizing and a sense of well being. What strain could do that? Even a higher dose of maeng doesnt produce results i want just more unwanted stimulation.

Also could you mix strains or does it cause imbalanced effects ? eg. mixing red and green/white

What is your favorite kratom strain?
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Eliza Wogglebury - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 17:50:56 EST U8xxeth7 No.609694 Reply
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None of this answers my question at all. TO repeat:

I've never had a problem with Kratom in fact I used it daily for weeks and at one point possibly a few months on end without noticing any major problems. Quitting honestly felt less bad than my heavy coffee habits, which are brutal crippling headaches, depression, lack of motivation whatever and lasts a weekend. With Kratom I basically just felt lethargic and slightly bummed out.

Bear in mind that I was actually ordering the shit by the kilo at that point, so I am not talking about some swallow a few grams type of shit either. I was literally brewing like 4oz a day at one point for tea. Actually quite possibly could've been more in a day.

My problem is now I have actually had a serious addiction to tianeptine and I am incredibly worried that because of that I fucked up opiates for myself in the future. I do not know how much of a kindling effect exists here in terms of how it would affect Kratom intake and whether using Kratom on a routine basis after kicking a hardcore physical addiction when you previously had no problems can have problems now because you may have altered some pathways to make yourself more susceptible to addiction and withdrawal from opioids generally. That is my questuion.
Fucking Sinningchit - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:59:40 EST hsSi6Hrd No.609707 Reply
Ok, to answer your question directly, yes your assumption is correct. You will have damaged your Opiate receptors and dependency will always happen easier and quickly. Kratom is no different in that sense as it acts on the same receptors. Depending on how long ago you used, Kratom may not even give you a buzz anymore. As for withdrawal - see rest of thread. Personally I think we've already answered that part for you. It's an unknown and personal thing - nobody can tell you what your experience is going to be like, so either choose to not go down this route, or do it and suck it up when it comes to the negatives.
Hughj - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 18:22:03 EST d5aQVBnH No.609817 Reply
Get off that garbage asap, I used to be hooked on tia sodium and it was fucking horrible, be prepared for heroin like withdrawals coming off of it. By far one of the worst drugs I have dealt with the "high" fucking sucks and the withdrawal is absolutely horrid kratom barely even touched the agony.

PST General

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 14:28:45 EST 0D2KEBt3 No.609357
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last one is gone. Post all things Poppy
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Beatrice Sindlehore - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 13:57:37 EST 0D2KEBt3 No.609814 Reply
7/2021 FTL was decent. 9/2021 was better. Just got 8/2021 and I will report back. Going with a slightly higher dose (full lb) because i hear it isn’t as great as the two other dates I just listed. Adding a .25lb of 9/2021 just in case
Cyril Gegglepit - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 16:14:18 EST WUStEVQJ No.609816 Reply
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Hear ye hear ye you dirty tea drinking motherfuckers. Did you know this is all run by a group of Jews called the Ashkinaze? They import these seeds, illegal in many countries, to make pastry filling for the Purim holiday. Under the guise of religious freedom and kosher law they are able to import unwashed poppy seeds into this country, and sell them at an enormous profit to us fucking worthless gentile fiends. I highly doubt a group of people as powerful as them would just let this stream of income disappear anytime soon my fellow junkers.

That said, just got a new 09/2021 FTL off the river. Looks exactly the same as the 08/2021-no plant matter, high in thebaine, takes 1.5 lb to get by instead of my usual 0.5-0.75 lb. Got a direct order coming next week. Bout time to switch to subs I’m thinking. Shit ain’t worth it anymore.

Advice Withdrawing off the Fake M30s

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- Sun, 25 Aug 2019 00:21:47 EST HtQLHF8I No.609803
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I've been using the fake M box blue oxy pills for about 4-5 months now. They are the ones pressed with fentanyl, the withdrawal usually begins around 4 hours from the last dose. Now here is the deal with my tolerance, I always see other posts from people saying that they are taking up to 3 a day like it's a huge amount, that is nothing to me. For the last week I have been using about 10 pills a day, sometimes a little under or a little over. I usually start using when I wake up and redose every 1-3 hours or so until I go to sleep.

So what has me worried is I never see any one else talking about having this much tolerance or using this many of these per day. Does anyone here have any experience with this? Would be helpful to hear from even one person who had experience with tolerance like this, and how they got out of it. Also any tips on getting through the withdrawal will be appreciated. I am wondering if I can possibly taper down before going cold turkey.
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Samuel Murddock - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 06:09:26 EST ZZZzwdbx No.609807 Reply
I was addicted to pure fentanyl dosed in a nasal spray for over a year and a half straight. I tapered down a lot by continuously diluting my nasal spray after every x amount of sprays. After that I just buckled down and cold-turkeyed that shit because opiate withdrawal will not kill you regardless of your tolerance.
Fuck Farryhut - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:19:47 EST OHIHxMID No.609813 Reply
This. It’ll be tough to wean with fake shit but regardless you are going to have to WD at somepoint and it’ll suck. Just be glad it’s not from benzos which you should try to obtain with other comfort meds.

Bump While Nodding: Tournament of Opiates vs. Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:04:09 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609151
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The previous BWN is no longer bumping. As such, here is the new BWN.
Post your opi of choice, binges, recreational usage, medically authorized use, and more surrounding this lovely class of drugs.

Today's current cocktail of Rx meds: 15mg diazepam, 50mg tramadol, 50mg tapentadol hcl (Nucynta), 15mg cyclobenzaprine, and 25mg DPH.
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 07:00:42 EST tRlEtpfR No.609809 Reply
wtf ! what a score ! haha .
what country u from if ya dont mind us askin bro man ?
David Minnerfotch - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 08:23:15 EST 2cI7lFmw No.609811 Reply
I mean it's from couple attempts, only listed things worth noting. The day I posted I only found pregabalin, liver meds and non-opi painkillers. I'm from Poland. I thought it's more popular method of getting drugs.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 11:17:28 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609812 Reply
I staggered low to medium dose of tramadol yesterday (225mg) along with 27.5mg diazepam, 20mg cyclobenzaprine, and 50mg tapentadol hcl. I was rather high when my wife and I went to dinner, which she didn’t know. By the end of the meal I was sweating from head to toe and had a painful tingling/pins and needle sensation as if my entire body was vibrating. Weird shit. I had a single drink with food and ended up giving my wife the second round of drinks she ordered for us. I’ve drank small amounts of /opi/ before and never experienced these odd tactile sensations.

I knew when your post mentioned the pharmacy employees know you as well as being able to buy codeine OTC that you weren’t from the U.S. or Canada.
In the U.S. drug disposal boxes are typically inside of a pharmacy (near the counter or behind the counter, at least from my experience), are monitored 24/7 by cameras, and do not have an easy way to retrieve the medications as deterring theft is a major priority.

I haven't shat in 8 days

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 17:09:23 EST 9bMGWRoI No.609749
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I feel like I swallowed a bag of buckeye marbles and they're just rolling around in my guts. I'm bloated and feel like I have to piss, but it's not, it's just weight on my bladder. I managed one single nugget today which was.. not enough. it was about the size and shape of a chestnut.

I'd say it's the opiates but I don't think I do them that frequently... BUT I have been using them to not eat because they're great for that, so I got a bit of a double whammy here. I'm eating a literal bucket of spinach to try and get things going.

What's the longest you've gone without shitting?

what's uh the longest 'safe' time to go without shitting like when should I go to the doctor / get an enema before I die lol
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Samuel Murddock - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 22:43:15 EST ZZZzwdbx No.609799 Reply
Oh man, that is the #1 thing I do not miss from my fentanyl addiction. Fucking hell. Back in 2017 I once went something like 10+ days without shitting. I finally bought a laxative and I shoved it up my ass. I felt the need to shit 20 mins later but when I went to the toilet nothing would come out, I was straining like fuck and finally I felt some movement. It was agonizing, pure searing pain like I was pushing a bowling ball out. I was considering just swallowing my shame and going to the ER. There was blood running down my fucking leg and I literally passed out from the pain at one point. I finally stuck my fingers in there and just pulled out this bloody mess of rock-hard shit and then the rest came out. Never been in so much pain. To this day, almost 1 year clean I still see blood on the toilet paper when I shit sometimes. My ass has never been the same.
Scourge of the West - Sun, 25 Aug 2019 07:57:45 EST GAvKKomF No.609810 Reply
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15 days is my record. First thing I slammed was Morphine. I didn't realize I hadn't pooped until it had been about a week. I tred senna and colace with no luck. By day 10 I was desperate. I got an enema and loaded it up with cocaine. And nothing. It got worse and the worst was I couldn't help falling asleep at work. Also I still had morphine but if I didn't take it I was in pain real bad.

On day 13 to the 15 I couldn't get out of bed I kept Tori Amos sugar on repeat cuz it was the only thing that made me feel better. On day 15 I resolved to sbit or go to the hospital. I took 25 colace pills and got back into bed..3 hours later I got up it felt like something might be happening. It was over in 3 seconds and what a glorious 3 seconds it was.

Am I just deluding myself or is the dream attainable for some?

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- Fri, 23 Aug 2019 01:04:49 EST NjmKkIbD No.609759
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Sup /opi/, I'd like y'all degenerate junkies' advice on something. To give a bit of background, I was an IV H addict for about 7 years, and then ended up switching to methadone and doing a slow taper over the course of ~3 years while I severed all my drug connections, got my shit together, and finally got 100% clean back in May. Since then I've been drinking occasionally, and have been dabbling with other shit, but with no problems keeping my use in check. Now I just recently found out my connect for other shit also sells H, so (me being me and enjoying tempting fate) decided to purchase a gram of tar. I've been smoking a little of it on the weekend for the past few weeks but my mind is stressing me out with thoughts of "oh, well I just fucked up years of sobriety from opiates, I'm not gonna be able to handle it and this'll turn into a downward spiral that will ruin my life once again", but at the same time I know I'll never use a needle again and I *know* I'll never use two days in a row again to avoid physical W/Ds. So, is this just my meaningless OCD kicking into gear, or is occasional (weekly or less frequent) use of heroin doable after being an addict for so long? Is it inevitable that my frequency of use will ramp up again, or have any of you successfully set rules that you *know* you can't break in order to live a happy life?
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DTMO - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 21:11:00 EST iwPQzXLg No.609780 Reply
>Is it inevitable that my frequency of use will ramp up again?

It's very far from inevitable. However, it's also very easy to think that you are the exception to the rule, and the general rule is that frequency and dose tend to increase

I am basically clean these days and use opioids every 6 months or so. That was 5 years using, a couple on subs, a year or 2 clean, a couple of months of using more than I'd like without dependence then on to the current system.

I have increased my use of other drugs a lot though.
Samuel Murddock - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:45:53 EST ZZZzwdbx No.609801 Reply
Toss it out now and don't look back. Once an addict, always an addict. You can delude yourself into thinking that you won't ever get addicted again but I can guarantee that even you know deep down that it's a lie. You haven't thrown away your 7 years of clean time but you definitely will if you continue to use any longer. At the end of the day, it's your life so do what you want but I'm just speaking from experience here. There is a 99.999% chance you will descend right back to where you were 7 years ago if you don't stop now. Occasional heroin use (regardless of ROA) is a paradox, a mere fantasy especially if you've been addicted/dependent in the past.
Samuel Murddock - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:50:45 EST ZZZzwdbx No.609802 Reply
This is 1000% accurate, I didn't see it until after I posted my reply. Excellent post.

Should I assume my dumb decision is H?

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:19:07 EST VkyM8MkQ No.609440
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Found some powder in a users room when I visited a house I had to do something at. Took a gel cap filled with chunky white powder which I assume is scramble H. And some small thin glas vial with a plastic topper on it not sure what it was but pretty sure it was some opiate as we. Been binging lil bumps every couple hours. Feels like an opiate. Tried to test em with my mandelin kit. But I think its bad due to its a couple years old. Liquid is a nasty brown color now.

Feels like an opiate but I havnt been going to full nods but I cant keep myself asleep for more more than a couple hours. On east coast by baltimore. I seem fine and high, itchy and tiny pupils. Should I assume its h?
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Phyllis Buzzcocke - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:45:46 EST cbXJ46oj No.609663 Reply
I mean, after that thread about the dude going on like a mini rampage or the thread about kidnapping/being kidnapped (i forget the deets), trying to be a voice of morality here is sort of like pissing into a hurricane. Is it the right thing to do? of course. will you end up covered in piss and also probably dead from being in a hurricane? absolutely. has this analogy gotten away from me? definitely. in conclusion, I completely agree with you but I've given up on trying to give people advice or judgement (not that you should give up, at least someone on here should call people out for their dumbass junky shit).
Beatrice Briblingleg - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 04:40:38 EST 4dTnJKkc No.609787 Reply
No doubt man, I agree with you too; I'm not the voice of morality here or anywhere else. I've done shitty stuff myself, like everyone, I can't judge anyone for shit, but...There's a big asterisk there: I've done shitty stuff..*While sick as all hell*. This faggot ass jerkoff cleary has no habit. And even when flopping around like a fish coated in sweat, I'd pinch some I got for someone else(pretty much a given though, really..) but I've never and never will burn someone with a habit. Really makes my blood boil, and a guy with a vial and cap laying around in Baltimore..I'm gonna guess he gets sick(see: he lives in Baltimore). I dunno, is what it is I guess, but fuck OP. Sorry, Op; but fuck you.
Phineas Furrygold - Sat, 24 Aug 2019 17:44:16 EST rMoGgOJh No.609794 Reply

If he is any kind of "real" junkie, he will know exactly how much he has and will notice if any of it is gone. He'll put 2+2 together and will be extremely pissed off, with good reason.

I hope for your own sake you don't know him and he doesn't know you or you are unlikely to ever see him again

basic intravenous safety guide

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- Thu, 22 Aug 2019 02:04:06 EST CVn32EyS No.609727
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stericup or other cooker(http://www.totalaccessgroup.com/stericup_colored.html)
cotton filters, must be tightly packed, you don't want to inject strands of cotton(http://www.totalaccessgroup.com/Cotton_filters.html)
alcohol prep pads(https://www.amazon.com/Dynarex-Alcohol-Prep-Sterile-Medium/dp/B005BFL0RQ/)
iodine prep pads(https://www.amazon.com/Iodine-Prep-Pads-Individual-Disinfecting/dp/B079VZ6YMG/)
1cc insulin syringe(https://www.amazon.com/BD-Ultrafine-Insulin-Needle-1-Markings/dp/B07C96LS75/)

optional/ situational:
sterile citric acid(https://www.exchangesupplies.org/shopdisp_sterile_100mg_citric_acid_sachets.php)
syringe filter

add your material to be injected to your stericup, you may want to as well add citric acid or an alternative to help put your substance into solution, highly recommended to be very light with the amount of citric acid you add as it can cause damage to your vein as well as cause general discomfort
add an amount of water so that it becomes saturated, stir well
apply heat under your cooker and continue to stir
once the powder/ tar has been completely dissolved, drop your filter into the cooker, if your filter is at all torn or frayed, it's advised to use a different one
tip the cooker slightly as to make sure the filter is saturated
press your needle firmly against the filter and slowly draw the contents of the cooker into the needle
hold the syringe upright and flick or shake the syringe slightly as to raise any air bubbles to the top, press the plunger slightly until several drops of your solution have been ejected
sanitize your injection sight with iodine and or alcohol
if a tourniquet is desired, apply now
slowly insert the needle into the desired vein, pull the plunger back to be sure that you're fully into the vein, if using a tourniquet, release it now
press the plunger down slowly and steadily
apply pressure and a bandage
dispose of used injection materials

iodine is an oxidant which prevents the growth of anaerobic bacteria, if you ever receieve a surgery where a large incision is made, an iodine solution is applied to the incision site!
citric acid may be required with tar to put it into solution with water
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hsn - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 12:24:33 EST cA+802PK No.609740 Reply
most people dont have access to micron filters...cotton is the most common. they hand out cotton at many needle exchanges and whatnot. hes not wrong at all.
Thomas Crommlestock - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:09:33 EST xScyS6ln No.609753 Reply
Good thread but the real question is where's the step by step to getting Bailey J high off her tits on H so I can get up in her guts.
Ernest Wubberpire - Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:22:39 EST hsSi6Hrd No.609771 Reply
Haha! Love this comment! Ahh Baily.... I almost forget sometimes that this person is a TS...

Sleep during WD

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:07:15 EST cFO37f8I No.609599
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Whats yalls sure fire way of sleeping during WD? Its honestly the worst part for me, i wish i could skip the time
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Basil Bruffingwill - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:26:07 EST +rJY0K/n No.609738 Reply
Aside from the obvious more opi and benzos try to excercise what you can manage. It’s easier to sleep during the day if you’re home. Everything seems to get worse at night especially with RLS (at least for me). If at your disposable though clonazolam was the only thing that worked better than kratom during WD. Kratom just takes the WD sometimes with a mild buzz but the clam completely overrode the WD and got me to the point I couldn’t keep my eyes open. Shit last so long too if made it possible to go to work the next day without redosing when I woke up only 24hours later. But it’s also pretty easy to blackout and miss work completely on that shit.
Priscilla Heppershit - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 10:29:55 EST OHIHxMID No.609739 Reply
Oh yeah. Long hot baths also help me a lot. And you guys will probably laugh at the thought of this one but I use my heating pad on my pillow for extra comfort. I usually have it on anyways but when in WD it seems to help relax me if I put my head on it rather my back what I primarily use it for.

Questions about OXYNEO 40mg ER

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- Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:44:07 EST QyExqGSP No.609711
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Hey Opi, so I got a plug for some oxy.. I've been trying to score since I lost my script a few months back. So the oxy I have access too is from an older lady, with a script. They're Oxy Neo 40mg ER.

I'm not sure what to think, first of all I have basically 0 tolerance. Secondly, when I had a script it was for 5mg oxy IR. I was used to taking 15mgs of that.
This raises some questions for me hopefully yall could give me some insight on - I heard oxy neos are hard to split - because I wouldn't be dosing the full 40mg.. or at least I don't think so. Which leads me to my second question, if I was used to dosing 15mg IR every 5-6 hours - what will be the difference that I need to make up with these 40mg ER. They feel the same, but how does it come on? It lasts for longer, so will that mean it's a weaker high? If so, should I be dosing higher? I really don't want to go above 20-25mg for my first doses, because I dont want the tolerance build up so quickly & I don't want to risk anything.

Appreciate any help, thanks guys.
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Dextrolord - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:55:29 EST t9+obISS No.609724 Reply
Just to piggyback on thants, I used toenail clippers, bought a new pair and they never touched any actual nails lol, to chop up my opana ERs back in the day and that worked perfectly
dr. m - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 06:49:46 EST jSts+8cD No.609733 Reply

Just break off the amount on the tablet you would want to take if it was the normal IR. Then crush that piece up best you can. Then drop it in a shot glass filled with normal coca-cola, not diet. Then wait ~8-16hr for it to dissolve. You can simply use citric acid mixed in water instead if you have it.

Once it's fully dissolved after ~8-16hr (no idea how long that specific formula takes to dissolve), simply drink the shot of coke, then refill shot glass with water, swirl it around, and drink any leftover goop/gel/residue. And that's how you turn it into roughly ~75-80% instant release and ~20-25% leftover extended release. Also, try to haggle them down to $20. They're XR after all.
Barnaby Hissledock - Thu, 22 Aug 2019 09:51:07 EST j04k2rVa No.609736 Reply
to my knowledge er/xr are aame amd cr/sr are the same, but as i said, cr/sr gives a continual amount and er/xr gives different amounts at different times. maybe should be looked into.

junkie face

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- Fri, 07 Jun 2019 15:22:04 EST 0PvNhfTA No.606801
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what do you do to hide your junkie face? i've been on methadone for years (sometimes i do get dope but its been two years since my last relapse). I'm currently traveling in Europe and i was in a hotel lobby, this brit tourist ( now i know why everyone hates brit tourists in this area) saw me and told his buddies " fucking smackhead".
I kind of look like the guy in this picture but not as skinny.
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Matilda Cheggleman - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 08:37:11 EST vuR57cHo No.608954 Reply
The only noticeable feature was definitely my eyes being red and pinpoint pupils. I've always been a skinny fucker so nothing new there. I was fully addicted to fentanyl for over a year, dosing every 30 minutes all day long and no one ever knew. As long as I had eye-drops I was fine. Not quite sure what it would take to fully get junkie-face if even using fentanyl all day everyday for over a year doesn't cause it.
Phoebe Demmerbanks - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 08:41:56 EST mVdQssMv No.608955 Reply

I think he's talking about how your eyebrows and all the eye muscles kinda fall down and form a kind of apathic look

New to heroin, not new to opiates.

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- Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:44:57 EST 3R2Nm3/L No.609242
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Hey OPI, so I'm curious on what dosages & prices I should be looking for when trying heroin for my first time.

Some background:

I'm in North America, Canada specifically.. - I say that for an idea on the price range for, let's say... a gram.

I've done plenty of opiates, have had multiple bottles with 100 pills of oxy 5mg & 37.5mg tramadols I'd pop up to 35mg & 500mg of a time of (oxy being over 2-3 hours, tramadols being over 5-6 hours), hydrocodone 5mgs that I would snort tons of, can't recall the amounts honestly..
So I'm not heavily into a tolerance when I have done them, & am currently with little to no tolerance..

I'm planning on snorting, & will be doing research on swallowing whether or not that's even a thing.

I've read anywhere from 150-200 is the price for a gram, but I want to be sure what an alright price is. & for dosing, I have no idea what I should be trying out - assuming there is no fet. I'm not too worried about fet, but I want to start on the lowerside to be cautious. I don't want suggestions on buying test kits etc.

Thanks for any help yall can provide.
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dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:51:32 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609595 Reply

Yup, this right here. Supposedly the majority of North America's MDMA is first brought into port in Canada before being physically smuggled by boat/car into the US (or possibly by mail I guess). I know a lot is shipped directly from EU>USA, but that's how entire 10-1000kg shipments of MDMA and I presume other drugs are trafficked into the continent.
Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 19:24:48 EST OgX3IMCX No.609721 Reply
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Heroin exists in Canada, I know because I live in Central Alberta and have tested for it in urine screens at the methadone clinic. Now people can get good real heroin but it's a seemingly very exclusive club because most real heroin gets cut with fent before it hits street level (because yes the same urine screen came back for heroin and fentanyl).

You could for sure find a poor quality gram for $200. Opioid addiction is common enough in Canada that you can find quantity and quality for various prices, you have to be a good judge of who you are dealing with and like im sure others have said don't jump into a gram, or even .1 if you don't already have some tolerance to other opis because OOPS ALL FENTANYL is totally a huge thing

100 mcg/hour fentanyl patches

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:11:15 EST 0DBMiwu4 No.609555
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I have some 100 mcg/hour fentanyl patches.
I want to get high on them. I take 400mg of codeine every day and have done for several months. 400mg of codeine doesn't get me high at all anymore, maybe a small buzz for about an hour.
I'm planning on cutting one of the patches into quarters and applying it to my skin so I get a 25 mcg/hour dose of fentanyl every hour.
will that be enough to get me high?
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 13:47:14 EST OgX3IMCX No.609686 Reply
>I've never heard of someone dying from fent patches specifically from the way the fent was unevenly distributed.

How could anyone deduce that posthumously? I'm not trying to argue with you but that's an unknown unknown. Unless the user somehow stated before use and OD/death that they were aware of other factors like potency and/or similar aspects.

Although I can't remember my source for this information I do remember reading something about medication in tablet form having only to be evenly distributed if the pill is scored to be broken in half. Then again I see pharmacists chopping N8 subs in half and giving people 4mg doses at the clinic and i know those pills aren't scored so that kind of removes the legitimacy of what I just said.. who knows.. I could see gel reservoir patches being unevenly distributed because you can literally move the gel around inside the membrane by placing it flat on a table and pushing on it with a plastic card.
dr. m - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:19:45 EST qsHN3Ndz No.609688 Reply

IMO the bigger problem isnt if it's evenly distributed or not. The problem is that cutting it, at least for the OG gel patches, caused a higher absorption rate than normal because of the edges oozing gel.

OP, dont gum them. Using them nasally or rectally is over two as efficient. Look up sublingual and buccal bioavailability percentages for buccal (on the gems) fent. Its only like 30-40% IIRC. Meanwhile, nasal is ~89% and rectal is presumably 90%+.
Clara Penderson - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 14:56:36 EST 6vyTjX1P No.609716 Reply
Yo OP use basically this method

chop it up into small bits and eat it like you would acid

Wanna kill oxy high, will IN suboxone work?

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- Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:57:38 EST aZ667T0e No.609670
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So ive had some oxy today, i dont normally use oxy but now i wanna have a few drinks b4 bed. Im not very high, but im wondering if i can use suboxone to kill the effects of oxy to counter potential resporatory depression. Does that make sense?
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Shitting Dosslepag - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 13:57:24 EST Va7/tQEi No.609712 Reply

Nah I agree with you I just didnt quite get it and imagined some stuff lol

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