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Tramadol general

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- Wed, 15 Jan 2020 04:23:42 EST uOzU3Wc3 No.613076
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>tfw depressed af, broke, and got bored and after looking under couch cushions and shit I found 4 tramadol 50s

Honestly I've done hydrocodone, oxycontin, Kratom, and codeine
And I have to say tramadol is honestly my favorite

A lot of hardened dope fiends say its weak sauce but
-lasts all day vs like 4-6 hours like hydrocodone
-is an snri so it gives you a more speedy high
-cheap af

Tramadol is the best opi, Convince me otherwise
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Nicholas Pengermudging - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:13:09 EST YofsFlfv No.613259 Reply
>>613247
the street scene is beat, i feel bad for any junkie who has to cop on the street for a fix these days, thank God for technology and plants.
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Fucking Nallyfire - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:11:37 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613261 Reply
>>613259

Can confirm, when I was super desperate I paid $10 each for six 10mg hydrocodone. Shit is fucking stupid.
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Nicholas Pengermudging - Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:50:45 EST YofsFlfv No.613262 Reply
>>613261
If you were able to find any real pharma opi on the street its a miracle in this day and age, most street product is all fentalogs regardless of being "dope" or pills. Test everything that you havent confirmed as valid with a fent test kit.

Review of kratom and some trivial herbs

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- Sun, 26 Jan 2020 07:31:07 EST n/yOjFSk No.613245
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Figured I'd post an AMA type of post regarding some herbs that I've used to drastically reduce my opioid usage and to increase my bank balance. Basically I went from wasting my savings on daily oxy to mostly relying on these herbs, only touching bupe or oxy rarely.

>Kratom
Took me a year to find out a cheap and reliable supply because in my country, importing (but not using) Kratom is banned. Now that I have the supply, my quality of life is basically as it was before I touched any opioids. I really recommend getting on a kratom regime.

Currently on 10g of some White Borneo. White vein is my favourite because of the headspace it creates. I'd rank white > green > red, while people who need more of a body high seem to rank Kratom the other way round.

>Incarvillea sinensis
An obscure CTM herb used for rheuma pain, known as "tou gu cao". There are a few plants called "tou gu cao" but only incarvillea sinensis contains incarvillateine, which is a very strong painkiller.

I find the herb very sedating and painkilling. It's actually more sedating than Kratom, so I need coffee or kratom if I were to use it during daytime.

It takes about an hour to kick in and when it does, it makes you drowsy like an oldschool antihistamine does. When looking for the best herbal euphoria I do weed + kratom + incarvillea.

>Akuamma
An african pain killer containing akuammine and some other alkaloids. The effects last for about 2 hours and it's not friendly on the stomach, so I only use this when initiating sleep. Combines well with kratom or incarvillea.
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Nicholas Pengermudging - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:14:54 EST YofsFlfv No.613260 Reply
>>613245
Based. Plants are just as effective to relieve withdrawal if you have the right kind.

Bump While Nodding (BWN): A Thread of Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 16:01:04 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612110
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You know what to do: bump when on opioids.

15mg diazepam, 15mg hydrocodone, 100mg hydroxyzine, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine.

I might end up taking more diazepam and hydrocodone (possibly a couple 50mg tramadol and 0.5mg alprazolam for synergy) later on.
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Priscilla Sucklekatch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:24:44 EST egC2YvdS No.613255 Reply
>>613254
What in particular? Respiratory arrest or serotonin syndrome risk? Seizures?
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Priscilla Sucklekatch - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 20:46:30 EST egC2YvdS No.613256 Reply
>>613255
Feeling loosy, friends are playing Fallout: New Vegas on stimulants while I'm putting on SLAYER
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Nicholas Pengermudging - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:06:22 EST YofsFlfv No.613258 Reply
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>5 crowns
>BHO
>Cigars

Heroin and Kratom at the same damn time

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- Sun, 26 Jan 2020 16:34:37 EST xBw29qie No.613249
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Hello fellow dope spleens.
I have a gram of decent H, and a bunch of red vein kratom capsules. If I take 2-3 grams of the kratom after I shoot my shot, will it mellow out the high a bit, decrease the euphoria I'm currently feeling, or will I feel nothing?
Thank you,
-Florida Man
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William Cirringwater - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 17:20:27 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613251 Reply
just wait for the h to wear off
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Nicholas Pengermudging - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:04:30 EST YofsFlfv No.613257 Reply
>>613249
negative, do not combine kratom with other opis, they actually do not mix well and its counter productive speaking from years of both kratom and H use

Kratom addiction

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- Fri, 03 Jan 2020 21:08:25 EST +OptEnMS No.612907
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Well at least I'm not snorting heroin daily, but now I'm popping kratom pills like a madman. Still chasing a high, only now it's much weaker and affordable. If I stop the withdrawals must be childish right? Like the difference between Meth and Coffee.
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Priscilla Bunfoot - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:21:00 EST ozyVbANz No.613189 Reply
>>613188
Oh yeah and the worst insomnia I've ever had for past 2 days while I'm low dosing tapering. Dont ever do more than like 15gpd and take several days off at a time
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Alice Bludgehood - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:47:35 EST GRdSP5lX No.613239 Reply
i don't know what or why it is but coming off a twice a day, 10~ grams of kratom a dose for a few months habit felt worse in some ways for me w/d wise than coming off a multi year dope habit
though I suppose most of it was probably the psychological aspect- coming off dope i was familiar with dope w/ds already and knew what to expect, coming off kratom i probably thought it'd feel like nothing and got taken by surprise
anyone else feel like that?

People with OCD, do opiates help?

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- Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:09:35 EST SEIgDTMo No.613236
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To anyone here with OCD, does your opiate usage help you control your impulses?
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Betsy Serringford - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 19:26:16 EST Z5F3z7dM No.613237 Reply
>>613236
Oh yes! I guarantee nothing, it wont be the same for everyone, so try it out. If you're anything like me tho, good old classic opiates (morphine, codiene, hydromorph, oxymorph, oxycodone etc...) will help a lot with a lot of stuff and improve your quality of life.

As long as you don't abuse them abuse them too much.
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Rebecca Nunderwell - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 03:18:34 EST GNj8sTVV No.613244 Reply
thebaine in poppies makes me act like i have ocd and am on speed. can't stop cleaning!

Houston Cocktail/Holy Trinity

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- Thu, 23 Jan 2020 02:50:36 EST wRFzbTwc No.613177
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I want to try the Houston Cocktail/Holy Trinity - combo of Soma, Hydrocodone, and Xanax.

What's the safest dose of each to someone with no opioid tolerance (just got into hard drugs)?

How different is it from a regular hydrocodone high?
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Emma Hickleshit - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:56:01 EST AHmbtJKE No.613230 Reply
>>613229

That's cause you didnt even get high from the hydrocodone.
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Nathaniel Bashstotch - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 14:15:47 EST GNj8sTVV No.613231 Reply
>>613177
update the "holy tirinity" and replace the benzo with pregabalin/lyrica
also can't get soma in europe anymore :/
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 25 Jan 2020 15:56:06 EST PqUsX21Z No.613232 Reply
>>613230
This.

>>613231
I think Xanax (alprazolam) is a stand in for just about any other benzo and some z-drugs. Gabapentin and pregabalin could replace the benzo category.

Pupil Constriction

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- Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:40:13 EST edLMbxo9 No.613181
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How long does pupil constriction usually take to wear off?

I had some codeine last night, it's 10:00 now and I have a job interview at 16:00. Am I fucked?
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Ian Brobbershit - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:42:29 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613184 Reply
>>613181
You'll be fine. Even benzos and certain lighting cause pin point eyes. Long as you don't sound like batman or have other junkie tells
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 00:28:10 EST PqUsX21Z No.613202 Reply
>>613181
Get some eye drops and take some deep breaths. Depending on your eye color your pupil constriction might not even be too noticeable to others. Personally, I’m always going places with my pupils constricted as hell. No one has ever said anything and I have yet to encounter a negative experience.

>Am I fucked?
Probably not, no. Do let us know the outcome of your interview. Best of luck!
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Ebenezer Fodgestitch - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 18:29:23 EST MbR5uTzM No.613217 Reply
>>613181
Honestly I don't think much people notice pupil constriction.. Dilated pupils are much more noticable to people. I guess this all depends on color of your eyes though I have dark brown eyes and if I have pinned pupils its barely noticeable. But I can honestly say I don't think I have EVER really noticed pinned pupils on anyone and i'm in my early 30s and been around drugs since my teens

H First times

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- Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:22:12 EST BhqOpXT6 No.613194
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Hey y'all. Not new to opioids but am new to H. I have taken Tramadol, Kratom, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, U47700, Tianeptine, Codeine... pretty much everything under the sun BESIDES Heroin.

Maybe it's just a meme but I've always been scared of Fent. I've had fent pressed oxycodone before, but i I was told it was fent and dosed appropiately (which it was, no hotspot bullshit.)

Anyways, to get to my question... my 2 grams of "Pure Afghan heroin #2" just arrived. The baggy is quite small, brown in color. Looks like cardboard pretty much. How do I go about dosing this appropiately so I don't die/OD? In my experience, Tianeptine was the heaviest opi I ever used. Shit was bonkers. Glad I'm off that wild ride. I think it had a serious effect on my tolerance, though. I intend to insuffilate, was even questioning oral ingestion (studies seem inconclusive on the BA, better than morphine, though.)

Any tips ? Would be really appreciated. I'm no newcomer to Opis, and have seriously heavy doses of stuff before. I'm heavier set as well, so I'm unsure how eight comes into play there. Thanks yall and happy nodding.

Tl;DR How do I dose Heroin safely? Insuffilation or Orally. Have experience with a lot of opioid/opiates but never H. Heavier set, 2 grams of afghan H
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:26:14 EST PqUsX21Z No.613212 Reply
>>613210
Smoking opioids is hard on the lungs. I don’t have immediate access or even remember downloading the PDF, but a research study back in the early 2010s or so concluded smoking off of foil isn’t the problem. More so, the act of smoking opioids can lead to health concerns not present if smoking tobacco or weed.

Sorry for the lack of a citation. If I have time later today I will look.

Can kratom age you?

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- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:21:43 EST Zurg6VnA No.612084
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Does kratom age you?

I never thought this before i feel like if anything it did the opposite because of the anti oxidants, stress relief, anti inflammatory, and it being totally natural. I read it on circlejerk and thats the only reason I’m thinking that. theres a few posts of people saying they took kratom and noticed they aged faster and chalked it up to dehydration. Those people were doing insane shit though like 45 grams a day usually i only take like 5-10 grams a day spaced out.

I take really good care of my health mainly for the purpose of not wanting to age keeping my window cracked to get fresh air, i go on walks especially in fresh air near trees and in nature, i drink water all day, ive been taking a ton of herbs, researching whats the best for anti aging, getting rest, taking vitamins, ive been buying a ton of all natural stuff to moisturize my face and take care of my skin multiple times a day and keeping my room humid to avoid dryness, and avoiding the sun.

I always look super young for my age and that was even not giving a fuck i just drank alcohol all the time with friends, smoked cigarettes, i drank gallons of sugary drinks with alcohol,i didnt take or do anything healthy, ate the most processed microwaved gross food ever, drinking soda, energy drinks, sitting around with my friends who smoke cigarettes, tanning out in the sun. I always thought i looked young cause of weed because i smoked a ton of weed but even with that i smoked with with a tobacco blunt wrap.

I dont notice any aging or anything but I’m scared. I noticed it makes my eyes a little darker but i literally always have the darkest black bags around my eyes. And ive been doing everything to take care of my health. Quit cigs, eat healthy, vegetables, water all day, no soda, exercising outside in the fresh air, researching constantly things that are healthier and good for me to make sure i dont ruin my health.

Can kratom really age you? I figured it was doing the opposite because instead of alcohol i just sit there with water sipping on water the whole time while i take kratom and making sure to stay hydrated. I even take a few extra chugs of water just to make sure becuase i know it gives me dry mouth. I figured if anything kratom was helping my health because it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling and helps me sleep and i just sit there and sip water the whole time I’m taking it and take it with water.

Aging is my biggest fear and the reason i take crazy good care of my health now and do everything natural. Plus everything i do is totally natural now. I take herbs, ashwagandha, natural moisturizers, fresh air, kratom, i use cbd hemp almost all days of the week. I have ptsd, depression, anxiety, always sick, insomnia and kratom cures it all. Can kratom really cause aging because this is the only thing that helps me and i realy dont want something thats going to age me. I dont even as much as stand near someone smoking a cigarette now.

The way kratom makes me feel i cant imagine it doing anything but being ANTI AGING but those people took like 30-45 grams a day too thats just a fucking insane amount and kratom does give you dry mouth so that has to be a crazy amount of dehydration and you can always take too much of a good thing. I figured kratom was anti aging for me because without kratom i just sit there miserable staring at a wall exhausted zero positive thoughts, zero happiness, stress, anxiety, massive depression, and kratom just makes me feel warm and more content and i dont even take a lot just a few grams a day
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Priscilla Bunfoot - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:36:11 EST ozyVbANz No.613191 Reply
>>612106
Testosterone dropping, lack of appetite, and the worst is many reports of hairloss. That's what caused me to quit as I had rapidly thinning hair from it.

Butorphanol/Torbugesic

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- Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:29:48 EST U9hwlOTd No.613109
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Unfortunately, my dog of 14 years has passed. I'm pretty sad, but saw it coming and surprised is hasn't sooner. I take comfort knowing that he's not in pain anymore, at least.

He was prescribed a liquid medication called Torbugesic for pain and being the piece of shit junkie I am, I'm curious to try it. Apparently the chemical is butorphanol and is used to treat severe pain in pets and sometimes used during childbirth?

Has anybody tried this stuff or know anything more about it? I'm very curious. Thanks
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dr. m - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 04:37:15 EST sYKUcQbI No.613178 Reply
>>613109
I can't be bothered, but go check the MOR mu opioid receptor affinity values (Ki) of both this drug and buprenorphine. Whichever has the lower number, generally speaking that drug will out compete and basically "block" the other one from activating, particularly if bupe has a higher affinity and you use it daily in doses exceeding maybe ~1.5-2mg sublingual or ~1-1.5mg nasal/rectal.

The other important bit is DO NOT EAT this drug! It is specifically not used in humans because the oral BA aka efficiency is extremely, extremely low. If you're going to consume it, either snort it dry, snort it in liquid form, or consume is rectally in liquid form. I have no idea what the drug's solubility is in water. If it's insoluble in water, try to find out if PG (propylene glycol) works. Apart from that, besides possibly VG vegetable glycerin (unlikely), if it's insoluble in all of these solvents, then I guess pulverize it best you can and snort it nasally.

Frankly, save these for a rainy day, or for an opioid naive person. They will do absolutely nothing for you if you're already on suboxone. In fact, since it's a weird agonist-antagonist hybrid opioid, it's definitely possible it could put you into precipitated withdrawals, assuming its affinity is indeed somehow higher than suboxones (unlikely).

Do not consume this medication more than like once a twice, or twice a week max. It is structurally related to an opioid that was banned and removed from the market due to said opioid causing heart problems/heart failure. If I was a noob, I'd honestly still try it, but I'd only use it once every long while, assuming the user has 0 heart problems and isn't taking other meds that fuck with the heart (e.g. meds that prolong the QT interval, etc.)

I hope this helps. Save it as a WD med. You've got a script for it anyways, so it's legal. Might as well keep it in the emergency stash for a few years. Sorry about your dog. I had to put my cat down on the farm and it sucked. The doc wouldn't give him any meds, so I had to volumetrically dose him bupe as below standard levels in case of dosage variation. Shit sucked. This cat was rescued at like 15+ years old from a hoarder house, and followed me around like a dog. We'd go walking in the woods for several hours off leash.
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dr. m - Thu, 23 Jan 2020 04:40:00 EST sYKUcQbI No.613179 Reply
>>613178
correction: I got my related opioids mixed up. This drug doesn't appeared to have heart toxicity/damage-related side effects. My bad.

East coast dope quality

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- Sat, 04 Jan 2020 11:44:50 EST jPNtZ3fl No.612928
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Does heroin cut without fentanyl exist on the street anymore? Obviously I'm being hyperbolic, but it seems extremely uncommon.

East coast anon (NJ/NYC). Been using on and off since 2009 and since early 2018 or so I haven't gotten any dope that isn't retard-strong/cut to some extent with fentanyl. Is this just the standard now? Do you guys have similar experiences? Is it even possible to cut tar with fent and, if so, what's your situation like out west?
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Fanny Billingson - Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:46:07 EST jt4m56I9 No.613133 Reply
>>612968
I'm from brooklyn and pretty much all dope has a small amount of fent in it. 3 years ago you could get straight boy but not anymore. Usually they put a very small amount in the good stamps and they are usually tan to a greyish color. The more grey or white the more either cut it is or just straight fentanyl. Last time I fucked with white shit literally made me fall out and woke up on the floor like what the fuck happened. First time that ever happend to me in the 5 years of doing opiates and at one point I was litterally doing upto 100 bags a day not a 100$ in bag a 100 fucking bags a day. Thank god for methadone.
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Reuben Chonnerlutch - Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:09:16 EST xei5dprI No.613140 Reply
I've never done heroin or fentanyl. But, I'm betting that coke on the west coast is fire compared to the east coast? Like, H is fire on the east coast when coke isn't and vice versa to the west coast?
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Ian Brobbershit - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 23:40:02 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613175 Reply
>>613140
You can get some good coke at the right points in supply, but in general its cut with meff and gosh knows what

What too expect?

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- Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:03:16 EST d5zetJYT No.613158
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What will my first time shooting diladud feel like? Never taken anything through IV only oral Tylenol 3 or 4 here and there. No-low tolerance.
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Phineas Greenson - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:13:51 EST YofsFlfv No.613159 Reply
>>613158
in my experience under these circumstances its best to start shooting at dosages of 1mg. expect the effects to only last an hour, the rest is all beyond words.
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Ian Brobbershit - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 23:35:49 EST 30kb9fBZ No.613174 Reply
>>613158
Let us know how it is.

Yes, it is beyond words. Its quite different from morphine too, feels more "synthetic" while morphine feels very natural and normal, at least ime.
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Sun, 26 Jan 2020 01:04:03 EST OIpQoQ2U No.613242 Reply
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>>613159
Yeah this a good dose to start at.

OP as for what it will feel like... the first time I got IV Dilaudid was in the hospital and it was 2mg IV with a saline flush to push all of it into my bloodstream and out of the iv catheter... basically i felt breathless and super light all of a sudden and warm as fuck and tingly and the pretty serious pain I actually had went away really fuckin quickly. it felt so good I would dream about it years later lmao. anyways what im trying to say is don't do it shit is too cash

Making the most out of Suboxone films

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- Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:49:01 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613062
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Me and a buddy have a deal where I trade him some of my prescription Valium for his 8mg/2mg Suboxone films. Upside is my benzo tolerance has went way downm downside is my opioid tolerance has went up (obviously). I want real painkillers or even H, but I like our deal right now where I don't have to spend any money (I get my benzos for free), so I have to make do with the subs. I love em, I honestly don't really get the hate for them, but them again I haven't graduated to super hard opioids.

Is there anyway to get the most out of Suboxone films? They still get me fairly high, just not like they used to. I usually cut them up and place them under my tongue and wait for them to dissolve. Is there a better ROA? Tips on how to potentiate? I heard taking more throughout the day doesn't really help, and I don't want to run through my stash too quick. How do they compare to other painkillers?
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DTMO - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 17:48:07 EST TF28zLIp No.613169 Reply
>>613066
I'm not sure what you're talking about... It dissolves into the water., It's not like it just ceases to be. I like using a nasal spray of bupe solution myself.

>>613063
This. Up to a point more is still more. Spirits work if you don't have mouthwash.
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Shitting Bullerchutch - Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:10:57 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613171 Reply
>>613169
I'm retarded and thought he meant it would just dissolve into a powder. Sorry, I was probably high. Thanks for your input, genuinely.
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Esther Claygold - Fri, 24 Jan 2020 13:27:40 EST QsgmL1hP No.613211 Reply
Suboxone is disgusting and nauseating as fuck and doesnt give you the feel good high of even one 7.5 vicodin

You are wasting your time

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