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How do you not blow your brains out in the opi game?

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:27:43 EST W0ct5kxG No.613668
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I've already suffered a subarachnoid hemorrhage, and I still use, it's just kratom these days luckily, and I'll take that over full agonist WD any day, but shit, kratom WD still isn't the greatest, the sleeplessness man, that's the worst. Also not to mention the insane stigma against us.

How do you guys stay sane?
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Hamilton Peblingdun - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:33:48 EST IxGcrMpY No.613669 Reply
Subutex. Dream of moving to Canada or something. Reminisce about the days of ye olde 80s.
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Cyril Packleput - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 02:37:37 EST QGkGjL5h No.613671 Reply
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>>613668
I stay sane by staying high
Having an un-maintainable addiction is hellish so finding something like kratom is better in the long run than H because of the ease of access, low cost, less obvious to others and as you mentioned lesser WD.

Also you can do things like have bupe/benzos/lope/lyrica on hand to deal with WD when you inevitably run out of your DOC. Eventually most hardcore addicts will burn themselves out and elect to go on maintenance, go sober because they;re so sick of the grind or kill themselves. I really hope our governments will choose to end the ridiculous war on drugs and make therapy more available and less stigmatized.
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Fanny Fegglewell - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 03:30:27 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613672 Reply
>>613671
Its better to get high once (actual opiates) than to never get high at all (kratom)

Tianeptine

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- Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:29:25 EST UI/tVgrq No.613277
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Can someone give me the low down on this shit?

I've been a hardcore drug addict for years now (IV heroin, crack etc) but I don't know shit about this tianeptine stuff. I had briefly heard about back in 2016 on circlejerk but never really paid attention to it. Now everyone around me is talking these Tianaa things in gas stations and people swear by them.

I know the gas station stuff is stupid expensive compared to just ordering the pure ingredient online, but is it worth trying. Is it an effective on Vivotrol? Also i hear the withdrawals are horrendous, can anyone attest to that?
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Eugene Chammlefuck - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 01:55:01 EST W90qOOis No.613666 Reply
>>613665
it's a really dirty drug (in the technical sense) that binds to a lot of receptors that's pretty poorly researched in the West, the closest thing I can think of is Tramadol, which is terrible for you as well

Bump While Nodding (BWN): A Thread of Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 22 Nov 2019 16:01:04 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612110
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You know what to do: bump when on opioids.

15mg diazepam, 15mg hydrocodone, 100mg hydroxyzine, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and a glass of wine.

I might end up taking more diazepam and hydrocodone (possibly a couple 50mg tramadol and 0.5mg alprazolam for synergy) later on.
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Reuben Nimblebanks - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 18:30:56 EST OibTVXRS No.613663 Reply
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what fucking gauge is this fuck this
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Cyril Packleput - Mon, 17 Feb 2020 21:12:57 EST QGkGjL5h No.613667 Reply
I've been waiting for my lyrica/etiz/modafinil to show up so I can make the jump to bupe. I really need to do it ASAP cause I start a full time job on Monday next week. I know I could just buckle down and do it without but that will out me out of action for at least 2 days and I have shit to do. I'm worried corona virus is slowing down shipping or something. The postal services haven;t been any help.

Anyway guilty bump on PST since my family already thinks I'm on bupe and I have to hide it from them.

hydro street price value for your area

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- Wed, 05 Feb 2020 19:32:38 EST LGJPOwWg No.613481
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hey all, im in southern ontario near toronto

ive taken these (6mg) a bunch of times over the past few yrs, just wondering what you think the price/value average is for them / what it should be and considering your area

also open to hearing about different mg prices bc these seem to go 6-12-18-24-30

thank you
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Simon Happerpatch - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 15:04:51 EST fAuyB3yr No.613620 Reply
>>613618
outside of place dupuis is where you will find 80% of the cities crackheads/junkies
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Cyril Brookcocke - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:44:49 EST E+ax0Bnx No.613661 Reply
>>613575
>>613566>>613575
>>613566

goddamn man, I'm in regina and like the cheapest I've heard of em is like 40-50 bucks thats the price a middleman of mine gets but he will get a few ppl to pick up. I really would only buy single pills tho. obviously if you were to buy a script or spend more than 500 youd get a lower per dollar price.
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joe jackson - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:46:43 EST E+ax0Bnx No.613662 Reply
goddamn man, I'm in regina and like the cheapest I've heard of em is like 40-50 bucks thats the price a middleman of mine gets but he will get a few ppl to pick up. I really would only buy single pills tho. obviously if you were to buy a script or spend more than 500 youd get a lower per dollar price.

1st time buying in like 10 years

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:30:07 EST OJKO2Dby No.613634
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Finally ran out of my 10 year old H stash that was before the time of fentanyl

Found a guy who normally deals in pharms who got me these, see below

Swears up, down, and sideways that it does NOT contain any fentanyl. I'm a brand new customer, I'm fairly sure he doesn't want me to die today, since I placed a huge pharm order for next week. Personally, i was under the impression that if it's in pebbles it's pretty safe, it's the powder that will fuck your shit up with fentalogues

Is that true, or....

Well, best question would be how can I be safe with these.
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Jarvis Worthinglock - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 16:32:18 EST QfB53hD5 No.613657 Reply
>>613638
10 years ago was the last time I bought H, guess I had a couple hundred mg.
I don't really care for it, so I don't use it often. It's kinda nice if my back pain is breaking through my diclofenac but that's about it.

>>613635
Thanks. I have a 0.01 scale, guess I'll go with that. Guess the only issue I can see with that is I don't even use weekly, maybe every 2-3. Seems like I'm going to waste a fair bit of this when I do want some.

How long is it good in water? I have a ton of 100ml bacteriostatic vials of water that are good forever, essentially. Wonder if I can use those.

I also grabbed a Narcan spray from a pharmacy to have on standby.
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m - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 01:59:23 EST lRTMMJYy No.613658 Reply
>>613657
Basically, if you use that rarely, I think for your own safety you should just accept the inevitable potency loss, especially if your stuff is remotely similar to most ecp these days. And no, rerocking/pebble making doesn't tell us absolute shit, since IMO people higher up in the chain tend to even lace fent+bulk it up in the first place (specifically both together anyways).

IIRC, you only lose like ~0.5-2% break down per day if it's in pH neutral or more acidic, especially in the fridge. If it's miraculously fent free (I bet money that it isn't) then yes in theory you lose ~50% of the potency by all the heroin reverting to morphine eventually. Even then that's only like 0.25-1% potency loss per day until it eventually hits 50%.

If you don't IV, I'd suggest boofing it if it actually contains mostly morphine from real dope (from sitting too long in solution). If it's mostly or all fent, then snorting solution works fine. The max effective nasal solution is ~0.2-0.3ml max per nostril per "dosage period," however the help long that even is. So keep that in mind when you make your solution.

It sounds like you have disposable income. So yourself a huge favor and buy some 0.22ug micron wheel filters on amaz0n, generally the bigger/wider the wheel size the better. Be sure to push it through the filter kind of slowly. It even filters out most bacteria. You could likely filter out all 4 pebbles in one batch using only ~1-5 filters depending on how cut it is, and that's only like $1-5 micron cost if you buy a decent quantity.
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Pandazie - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:39:07 EST aro+f/jm No.613660 Reply
>>613658
I would have to find the study again but it was a legit academic site that had research paper/study done about just this thing, how long does it take for diamorphine to turn back into regular morphine once dissolved in water. It was said that the solution would form bacteria and be not safe to inject or use b4 it lost any amount of potency that would make a difference basically. Obviously if u used bacteriostaitc water and kept it below 40*, this wouldnt be much of an issue than either and they said that having in a high acidic or base solution would make it degrade faster but with regular water, it would take weeks for it to even begin to degrade... Just wanted to clarify this as ur saying .5-2% per day and that is prob way higher than it really is, unless u mean after a couple weeks of it sitting in the water first but lemme see if I can find the study tho...

I just hate how so many people think that its like 24 hours and then the shot is all morphine when that isnt the case AT ALL... Ive known people who would prep shots days in advance using bacteriostatic water and keeping it refridged due to traveling or time constraints and they never said thier shots felt any weaker than once they would prepare and use right away... it takes weeks for it to start to even degrade.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.2042-7158.1992.tb05474.x

quick abstract above but the actual articles all have paywalls apparently that I dont have access to anymore due to not being in college now.. But this states over 14 days b4 degradation even begins to make an impact basically, even at different Ph levels.

Mystery pain pill

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- Sat, 08 Feb 2020 00:48:06 EST T1tlQ74y No.613533
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What are these?
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James Pickdock - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 14:39:19 EST fAuyB3yr No.613656 Reply
>>613655
yes the mslongs are fucking xboxhueg 000 gauge caps the cotins are small and cute tho
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Pandazie - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:16:32 EST aro+f/jm No.613659 Reply
>>613533
These are called "Statex", canadian pill. Its morphine IR, dunno the dosage tho, could be 5mg or 10mg, I think those are 10 cuz the 5s are blue Im pretty sure. >>613533

Methadone in au

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:36:28 EST EtD6ykJ/ No.613615
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Yeah so im done with the bs, I need to get onto methadone, how does one do it in australia? Like I cant even get my valium anymore it fucking sucks and im ready to kill myself
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lol - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 09:36:19 EST IggaRoSW No.613649 Reply
>>613648
Yeah what? I've heard a billion NA geezers badmouth methadone but I've never heard that, you sure you aren't mixing it up with the teeth thing?
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Fanny Boddlepack - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:04:38 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613653 Reply
>>613648
>>613649

"Cases of QT interval prolongation and Torsades de pointes have occurred during treatment; these cases appear to be more commonly associated with higher dose treatment (greater than 200 mg per day). There have been some cases in patients receiving lower doses and in these cases contributing factors such as concomitant medications and/or clinical conditions were present. In vivo studies have confirmed this drug effects the QT interval and in vitro studies have shown it inhibits cardiac potassium channels"

Source drugs.com, but I already had hears of this, it could literally give you a heart attack.
I'd rather it got phased out in favor of ER morphine.
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Fanny Boddlepack - Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:10:20 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613654 Reply
>>613648
Just to expand on this dear question mark poster:

"Knowledge that TdP may occur in patients taking certain prescription drugs has been both a major liability and reason for removal of 14 medications from the marketplace.[5] Forty nine drugs known to cause TdP and another 170 that are known to prolong QTc remain on the market because the drugs provide medical benefit and the risk of TdP can be managed and mitigated by instructions in the drug label.[6][7] Examples of compounds linked to clinical observations of TdP include amiodarone, most fluoroquinolones, METHADONE, lithium, chloroquine, erythromycin, azithromycin, pimozide, and phenothiazines.[8] The anti-emetic agent ondansetron may also increase the risk of developing TdP."

Week without bupe

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- Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:08:42 EST IxGcrMpY No.613579
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Hello, my sub doctor wrote me a 4 week script as usually but scheduled me 5 weeks out. I realize this today as I run out and realize my appt is a week out. I cannot get a hold of him so I think he is camping or something. He's been very professional but he is a bit out of it, sometimes he wrote my debit card number wrong so it didnt charge me, etc. I think he forgot to tell me about vacation and update my scripts for 5 instead of 4 weeks.

Any ideas? Loperamide, kratom extracts, craigslist scoring,
Been calling sub doctors but nothing yet
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John Pommerspear - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:22:59 EST W76L+LV1 No.613593 Reply
>>613591
thanks for the reply
I've shot suboxone strips off and on for years and only used micron filters maybe 30% of the time. I really wish they were more available. Anyway I'll buy some off ebay so I have a large stock since I'm switching to bupe again and know I won;t be able to stay away from the needle, at least not until I'm properly stabilized.
I always feel paranoid shooting them but haven;t done it THAT much so I haven't noticed any ill effects yet luckily. (Not saying I haven;t caused any damage)
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Fanny Nungerlet - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:56:53 EST IxGcrMpY No.613594 Reply
>>613593
I'd imagine you could use one wheel to filter a lot and then freeze the solution. Anyone know if thats a bad idea?
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dr. m - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 04:39:12 EST 7CjouJSN No.613630 Reply
>>613594
Personally I'd only do this if I truly couldn't afford it otherwise, and even then I'd only whip up a few days worth to maybe a week maximum, being sure my fan is off and transferring the end product in a truly well sterilized container that is airtight before transferring it to a refrigerator, preferably the "non-food"/mini-fridge if you have the luxury of 2 fridges. Never work with pseudo-sterile (microns don't sterilize anything, don't keep out all 100% of bacteria though it's over 99% by a lot, don't remove any bacteria-created toxins <0.22ug in size, and don't reliably reduce virus count to "safe" levels whatsoever, as in the viral filtration rate could be as small as just ~1-49%, though IMO it's likely to have lower viral count/load than a cotton filtered solution, but not enough to truly matter when it comes to HIV or especially Hep C). drug administration/creation in a bathroom if you can, unless perhaps it's pre-made, micron'd solution using a fresh needle. If for some reason you would be IVing more than 1x/day, then sure I guess you could use 1 filter for 1-2 days worth of dosing, but practice safe/sterile protocols or it's all possibly not worth it.

Spoiler: general tangent(s) related to safe IV use, general bupe use, and some tolerance reduction supplementation towards the end.

Microns are as cheap as like ~$0.20-0.50 each, and since they don't trap >1% of active drug like cottons always do (that's why "cotton washes" even work), depending on your DoC, they likely pay for themselves by reducing those costs alone. If you do IV and can't get microns or at least sterifilts, for the love of God don't IV cotton washes or re-use cottons even if you dry them out ASAP; snort, boof, or eat the "washes" instead, depending on bioavailability.

Just never ever reuse a micron filter later than like 1-30 minutes after the first use, but I'm being arbitrary here. Just don't do it, and when you can, ALWAYS use TWO different needles assuming you draw up the non-micron filtered solution before pushing it through a micron filter. Unless you somehow fill the syringe via non-needle back loading, always use one to draw up the unsafe crap and another to actually IV it. If I was stuck with just 1 fresh needle, and some how couldn't get the syringe filled without sucking up unfiltered gunk/bacteria, I'd consider something like wiping it with iso or squirting some iso through it, but I guess you'd need a clean barrel to even do that, so just don't do it period, and if you have to, I guess sterilize the outside tip with iso in one single clean downward wiping motion using an iso prep pad that won't break apart into small fibers.

If you can afford it, seriously if you miss or otherwise need to pull out and attempt another injection, then remove the used one and attach a fresh one. Always use an alcohol wipe on an injection site, and IMO, either untie your makeshift tourniquet, or at least inject your solution relatively slowly but consistently so you don't contribute to potential risks of vein collapse/being blown out. This stuff matters. And don't forget that IV bupe is pretty much minmum ~3x more efficient than sublingual, and roughly 2x more efficient than nasal/rectal (can be just 1.5x if you do things to enhance nasal/rectal use), so IV doses above say ~4-6mg, or especially >8mg don't really make sense unless you plan to achieve an 8-12+ hour nod or something, and even then only if you're offsetting such high doses with increased non-use duration or somewhat lower daily use rates.

For me, anything above 4mg/day sublingual equivalent means no mega dose (at least non-IV/IM) is capable of truly psychoative effects above placebo/baseline. For that, you need to IMO wean down to like 4mg or especially 2mg or less sublingual/day, anything 1.5mg or less being ideal, and then perhaps consider using one "megadose" a maximum of once a week, preferably once every 10-14 days, at ~4-6, maybe 8mg IV.

Also, if you can, to reduce your past, current, and future tolerance/tolerance gain, buy a very limited amount (smallest quantity they'll let you unless shipping if flat rate & expensive) of naltrexone pills from a reputable (best you can find) clear net site, and if they're made by an Indian company, do your research on that c…
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Tolerance

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:10:32 EST t93J/3b6 No.613622
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I did a pill of Suboxone (not sure the strength) over the course of 16 hours about a day and a half ago. I've been told it blocks Opioids.
My friend gave me 150mg of Tramadol which is an opiate as you probably already know.
If I take it today would I even get high? Or should I wait a few days for the full effect?
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Nell Grandway - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 21:10:12 EST t93J/3b6 No.613627 Reply
>>613623
I only have 3 pills of Tramadol (150mg) maybe I'll wait until Saturday.
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m - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 23:50:24 EST lRTMMJYy No.613628 Reply
>>613627

Definitely, definitely wait until Saturday (not this Saturday, but the next). You'll be glad you did. Assuming your pill was as high as 8mg, it can partially block your receptors for easily a week or so. The average half life is like 37 hours, but can be even higher for other people. If you can, wait until Sunday after this one. If you really really can, wait another whole weekend or so and do it the following Friday, so you wait over a week.

Btw when you take the tramadol, trust me on this, take one 50mg pill, wait 30min, then take the 2nd one, wait another 30min, and then take the last pill. It's one of the few opioids that are way stronger and more enjoyable when taken staggered.
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Cornelius Wuffingmen - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 00:11:24 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613629 Reply
>>613628

this.

would take 1 or 2 trams before work, another after getting ready, and another at work. would be feeling nice before I even got to work, and the last one I would take at work would keep me nice and comfy working with my good pals serving up some good ol southern fried fish and seafood, burgers, etc. fuck that shit was fun

Suboxone

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- Mon, 03 Feb 2020 18:22:12 EST XvZ81YTx No.613424
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About to pick up my first suboxone script ever. Im excited. All i do is crave opiates but cant afford seeds with the prices now. I'm in minor WD more than I'm high anymore.

Is it true the naloxone doesnt actually have any effect unless you try to shoot it or take too much?

I am tempted to snort 1-2mg because I hear it has higher bioavailability that way. If I snort one will the naloxone activate and make me feel shitty? Is it true none of the naloxone activates if taken sublingual?

I'm reading so much mixed and contradictory info. I'm hoping someone can give me a convincing explanation.
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Solidikans - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 16:31:37 EST VozGxhDd No.613606 Reply
>>613424
Enjoy running out of your take homes and getting withdrawals. Don’t miss those days. Just suck up the withdrawals and switch to kratom.
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Samuel Bradgehood - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 02:20:44 EST IxGcrMpY No.613611 Reply
I take 16mg daily for years. I also take edible cannabis oil, which makes a difference, i end up nodding off at night. It used to be more stimulating. I dose either 8mg 8mg or 4mg 8mg 4mg, mixing it up like that can make a difference too. Also taking 16mg at once or all in the a.m..

>>613606
In the us, you get a month at a time, and generally high as 24, 32mg, so you shouldnt have to worry about running out.
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m - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:39:59 EST lRTMMJYy No.613619 Reply
>>613606
Is this genuinely a problem for even a sizable minority of properly stabilized suboxone/subutex patients in the US? My perception is that bupe scripts for addiction maintenance tend to be particularly oversized in quantity and dosage. From what I've read, anyone that doesn't have a genuine mouth-related medical problem/peculiarity that impacts their ability to sublingual tablets or strips without swallowing it all instead should be able to achieve ~90%+ receptor saturation on daily doses of 8, perhaps 12mg daily, and the data differs on indicating whether that's from a single dose or continual daily use. So frankly, anything more than 8mg daily shouldn't really be necessary for patients who've been fully "detoxed"/chemically stabilized on bupe for say ~60-90 days, and certainly not after 6 months or so of following the program properly.

Yet most people I talk to are scripted at the very least 8mg/day, and at least half of them receive 16mg or even 24 or 32mg/day, or were at least offered the option to stay on such doses. I myself receive a whopping 24mg/day despite finding a dose well below 8mg (roughly ~5-6mg sublingual equivalent) adequate for my needs.

So I'm asking, how the hell does someone offered 8mg/day, or particularly 12-32mg/day, even manage to run out assuming they're not selling their script? Anything over ~12-16mg sublingual arguably doesn't really even do anything especially with consistent use, and IMO doses above 16mg or so sublingual equivalent don't do anything extra apart from perhaps increasing duration.

Most I know only need like half of what they're scripted or less. Honestly doses above say 24mg don't really make sense even in the short term, and arguably doses above 12-16mg/day don't really make sense pharmacologically when used after a properly crafted 6 or so month stabilization+maintenance plan.

Except for the most unique and complex cases, this stuff shouldn't even be scripted >16mg/day to start and like 12mg/day long term. All this extra does often get used by "addicted" users via black market which can be good or bad, but there's also an entire generation of new people whose opioid use/exposure/experience is pretty much majority kratom or bupe use/arguable abuse.

If bupe is good enough to be a so-called gateway drug into street heroin in parts of Scandanavia and eastern Europe, then it can and does happen here. There's too much of this stuff, not the opposite, though that doesn't mean there isn't healthcare access or affordability issues for addicts.

How do I get rid of pain?

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 02:41:21 EST isftLE8E No.613612
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It is really psychosomatic? What helps got besides junk? Holy shit I'm so non productive when I'm in pain and I'm so depressed about how I'm just in pain all the time, that's why I got hooked on this stuff. My back is killing me, I just want to lay down all the time and because I'm laying down I can't do a lot of stuff, I just want to kill myself because it's so hard to cope by doing drugs. This turns into a habit it is even more comfortable to nod off or I get stuck doing nothing. I don't want to depend on drugs anymore and I was only able to do things like going out because I was using stuff like kratom or poppy pods. When I'm off of them for even months I'm just so different. I don't have motivation. What can I do? I have been doing this song and dance for over a decade now, I was never in danger of dying or shooting up. I never did this to get high. What is the end of addiction or the use of this stuff look like? I'm so done, I can't help but cry like a bitch about how much this drug has taken from me but also gave me an escape from my pain.
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Charlotte Blugglepot - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:49:06 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613613 Reply
Theres not a lot of people here so im gonna contriboot what I can.

I've seen people with gay psychosomatic "fibromialgya like" back diseases that got their rx cut out for lack of solid evidence of actual back disease.
This people more often than not ended in a methadone program without doing shit, despite clearly being capable of going to raves or any other stupid shit.

On the other hand we have the dude with hella slipped discs from hauling shit in the army that works out regularly even tho he cant do shit like deadlifts and squats.

Who do you think has a worse back in the current day?
I dont know your back issues so dont take this too srsly
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Graham Doddlefuck - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:12:41 EST OiW3sT/A No.613614 Reply
physical pain can be caused by depression, if theres no evidence its being caused by something else

Opium for beginners

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- Sun, 09 Feb 2020 01:46:13 EST zX1KbYDp No.613554
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How does opium feels like? Any strange experience? any mystical one?
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Eliza Blackworth - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 20:52:35 EST YofsFlfv No.613565 Reply
>>613564
excuse me, what are you, some kinda nazi or something? it was 6 gorillion!

fucking bigot....
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Jack Drillywell - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:37:46 EST IxGcrMpY No.613580 Reply
who turned my 6 million pounds of opium into ash? opium lamp shades???
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Martin Sommlewit - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 09:32:32 EST TcIbwHQU No.613597 Reply
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>>613580
The mods might be the only people that havent got the memo at this point.

Whaddup quetz! Thanks for deleting, see you soon!

Coronavirus vs Kratom

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- Tue, 04 Feb 2020 04:11:39 EST qR4cvv3J No.613436
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I just had a lovely thought. If/when this Flu Tang epidemic gets worse and spreads to kratom source countries, is the government going to step in and just completely ban all consumable imports from them? And even if they don't, how likely would it be that eating kratom could infect you? The virus is said to be able to survive for at least 112 hours on un-sanitized surfaces, and I can't imagine any kratom farmers/exporters have particularly good food safety practices. I usually try not to think about that when I'm eating my drugs, but now I can't help it. I mean, wasn't there recently a big batch of kratom that was giving people salmonella?

I hope everyone sleeps well tonight
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Frederick Ducklestock - Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:01:31 EST YofsFlfv No.613519 Reply
Just stocked up on a few extra LBs last night, would recommend yall do the same pronto, the official numbers have broke 30,000 now, going to be over 50,000 soon enough.
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Barnaby Chivingstet - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 05:55:15 EST 2Fuuagq4 No.613542 Reply
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I just ordered two kilos, different strains so I can keep my tolerance at tolerable levels. I've got about 500 or 600 grams left currently, so I'll throw these bastards in the fridge when they show up and then just wait and see what happens.

I'm seriously not ready for the post-apocalypse. I'm addicted to drugs that only grow on the other side of the world and I don't own a gun. I'm hoping this will die down in a few months but I have absolutely no faith in humanity to take care of itself.
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Eliza Blackworth - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 17:36:00 EST YofsFlfv No.613582 Reply
Got my bug out stash of kratom today so now in total I have 4LB. Thankfully the dates on the packaging for them all were from January or December and they all came vacuum sealed. Decided to throw them all in the freezer with at least 4LB of vacuum sealed coffee grounds since I wont need to tap into any of it for a bit. Its been advised to keep anything you plan to ingest if you can in a freezer for a while prior to consumption.

This year is taking off fast and hard into being the most insane year of our lives, I always said that by 2020 we were in for big changes globally, we are certainly off to a hell of a start.

Every day less and less people are saying "this is gonna blow over, dont worry". Its starting to slowly settle in it seems.

I really love all you guys and will keep everyone in the world in my thoughts and prayers, I encourage everyone to spend time now with family and loved ones, we need to remember what really matters to us in these dark times.

Naloxone bs

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- Tue, 04 Feb 2020 16:54:42 EST srJS2O5Z No.613456
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Got some 20mg oxycodone/10mg naloxone formulation tablets. Is there any way to remove the naloxone? They are both water soluble. I thought about exploiting the different melting points (oxycodone has a higher melting point) but I assume you need the BOILING points not the melting points in order to really remove it, which I can't find anywhere online. I also imagine that the HCl salts boil at different temps than a freebase. Does anyone have any insight? Thanks

And how many of these could you take before feeling precipitated withdrawal? On one naloxone pharma website it says more than 0.2mg risks precipitated withdrawal, meaning that at 2% oral bioavailibility 10mg in one tablet would be 0.2mg equivalent to IV.
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David Sungerkere - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 20:52:21 EST qr6oitQj No.613551 Reply
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It make sense, but from what I understand the naloxone only serves to help ypu shit better
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m - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 02:49:16 EST 7CjouJSN No.613574 Reply
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That's only really true when combined specifically with buprenorphine, aka suboxone. With targin, naloxone actually does have higher affinity than oxy, though its oral BA is low and supposedly is relatively ineffective as crossing the BBB via oral use. That being said, I could definitely still see is blunting highs.

Just take 1 targin with a pure oxy dose of your choice until they're all used up. The naloxone should help reduce your tolerance anyways, like a shittier ULDN.
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Emma Shakeman - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:39:46 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613577 Reply
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Now that you mention it I am unsure if my friends puked because of a baby OD or because they went into precipitated wds lmao

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