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Can kratom age you?

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- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:21:43 EST Zurg6VnA No.612084
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Does kratom age you?

I never thought this before i feel like if anything it did the opposite because of the anti oxidants, stress relief, anti inflammatory, and it being totally natural. I read it on circlejerk and thats the only reason I’m thinking that. theres a few posts of people saying they took kratom and noticed they aged faster and chalked it up to dehydration. Those people were doing insane shit though like 45 grams a day usually i only take like 5-10 grams a day spaced out.

I take really good care of my health mainly for the purpose of not wanting to age keeping my window cracked to get fresh air, i go on walks especially in fresh air near trees and in nature, i drink water all day, ive been taking a ton of herbs, researching whats the best for anti aging, getting rest, taking vitamins, ive been buying a ton of all natural stuff to moisturize my face and take care of my skin multiple times a day and keeping my room humid to avoid dryness, and avoiding the sun.

I always look super young for my age and that was even not giving a fuck i just drank alcohol all the time with friends, smoked cigarettes, i drank gallons of sugary drinks with alcohol,i didnt take or do anything healthy, ate the most processed microwaved gross food ever, drinking soda, energy drinks, sitting around with my friends who smoke cigarettes, tanning out in the sun. I always thought i looked young cause of weed because i smoked a ton of weed but even with that i smoked with with a tobacco blunt wrap.

I dont notice any aging or anything but I’m scared. I noticed it makes my eyes a little darker but i literally always have the darkest black bags around my eyes. And ive been doing everything to take care of my health. Quit cigs, eat healthy, vegetables, water all day, no soda, exercising outside in the fresh air, researching constantly things that are healthier and good for me to make sure i dont ruin my health.

Can kratom really age you? I figured it was doing the opposite because instead of alcohol i just sit there with water sipping on water the whole time while i take kratom and making sure to stay hydrated. I even take a few extra chugs of water just to make sure becuase i know it gives me dry mouth. I figured if anything kratom was helping my health because it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling and helps me sleep and i just sit there and sip water the whole time I’m taking it and take it with water.

Aging is my biggest fear and the reason i take crazy good care of my health now and do everything natural. Plus everything i do is totally natural now. I take herbs, ashwagandha, natural moisturizers, fresh air, kratom, i use cbd hemp almost all days of the week. I have ptsd, depression, anxiety, always sick, insomnia and kratom cures it all. Can kratom really cause aging because this is the only thing that helps me and i realy dont want something thats going to age me. I dont even as much as stand near someone smoking a cigarette now.

The way kratom makes me feel i cant imagine it doing anything but being ANTI AGING but those people took like 30-45 grams a day too thats just a fucking insane amount and kratom does give you dry mouth so that has to be a crazy amount of dehydration and you can always take too much of a good thing. I figured kratom was anti aging for me because without kratom i just sit there miserable staring at a wall exhausted zero positive thoughts, zero happiness, stress, anxiety, massive depression, and kratom just makes me feel warm and more content and i dont even take a lot just a few grams a day

Pill identification

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- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:19:48 EST k3gioFlh No.612081
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Anyone know what this might be? It's got a capital M on the other side but this side in pic related is almost impossible to make out. It has a score line and it looks like it might also say 05 on on side of score line, which leads me to believe it might be Oxycodone. Not sure though.

Thoughts?

Sober people

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:22:17 EST iVtQ3HeV No.612008
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Anyone here not on /Opis/???? 10 days without using dope. I’m just bored. Funny how my last run of about 8 months I didn’t post here.
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Jarvis Shakebury - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 01:02:07 EST ztzPGoam No.612074 Reply
>>612072
Dude just google opioids + testosterone. Long term usage of potent opis nuke men's test levels to literally castration levels. My claim that there is suppression even after cessation is mostly based on anecdotal data; myself and many, many others.
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Molly Blackforth - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 06:12:59 EST AzyZINSl No.612076 Reply
>>612074
What did you do to restore your testosterone before trt and how long were you off opi?
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lol - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:20:58 EST IggaRoSW No.612079 Reply
>>612008

Methadone has absolutely murdered my libido which I'm fine with, dealt with enough women when I was using, I have hep c anyway so it's not the kind of thing I can be promiscuous with even though I'm not like that. Never knew if there were other downsides beside that and to be honest I didn't care, can it really cause a significant health issue or is it more related to social aspects?

Bump While Nodding: Tournament of Opiates vs. Opioids

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:04:09 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609151
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The previous BWN is no longer bumping. As such, here is the new BWN.
Post your opi of choice, binges, recreational usage, medically authorized use, and more surrounding this lovely class of drugs.

Today's current cocktail of Rx meds: 15mg diazepam, 50mg tramadol, 50mg tapentadol hcl (Nucynta), 15mg cyclobenzaprine, and 25mg DPH.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 08:58:02 EST 9v++/pcV No.612078 Reply
>>609151
This post is going to be somewhat blog-like, but is really a means of capturing all of my thoughts in an accurate way with a log.
I woke up about 4 hours ago feeling like absolute shit: weak knees and muscles, severe nausea, chronic back pain, worse than usual anxiety, and an odd feeling of stimulation. Throughout the last couple of weeks I’ve had a runny rose off/on, but it’s late fall so it’s not uncommon. I’m almost wondering if I was experiencing some minor opiate withdrawal, but my last dose of hydrocodone was 12-14 hours earlier and only 2.5mg, which is nothing.
I’m calling up my GP and Pain Doc to see what’s good. I should be able to get more benzos and z-drugs as well as an increased dose or med added on, for respective docs.

>Anyone here have any experience with gabapentin or pregabalin for pain/muscle spasms?

18 hours ago: 2.5mg hydrocodone, 10mg diazepam, 10mg cyclobenzaprine, and 4mg ondansetron.

Insomnia is a bitch and a can’t sleep despite ingesting the following over the last two hours: 7.5mg hydrocodone, 20mg diazepam, 100mg hydroxyzine, 20mg cyclobenzaprine, 20mg zaleplon, and 5mg zolpidem.

I could really go for some morphine or oxymorphone, alprazolam, clonazepam, more diazepam, more zolpidem, and a high ABV stout on top of everything.
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lol - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 10:39:01 EST IggaRoSW No.612080 Reply
>>612078

Sounds like you're starting to get hooked mentally king, be safe,
Nb
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guardian_angel !LhwrleQFRU!!fAsQkk7h - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:54:53 EST MKDpIGL5 No.612083 Reply
>>612052
oh shit boi haven't seen u in what feels like ages man how's it been?

sad the homebake scene seems to be coming to an end over there. shit seemed so cash

nb

Opioids from Yeast

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- Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:23:39 EST WvU6l7Ap No.612033
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>We combined enzyme discovery, enzyme engineering, and pathway and strain optimization to realize full opiate biosynthesis in yeast. The resulting opioid biosynthesis strains required expression of 21 (thebaine) and 23 (hydrocodone) enzyme activities from plants, mammals, bacteria, and yeast itself. This is a proof-of-principle, and major hurdles remain before optimization and scale up could be achieved.
The opioid crisis is about to get a lot worse and the potential here is limitless. Psilocybin, THC, cocaine, you fucking name it can all be made with this technology. Genetically modified yeast are going to be the Nagasaki and Hiroshima of the war on drugs.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4924617/
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Edwin Gollyfeck - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 21:43:18 EST 3LIh5bI/ No.612069 Reply
Some rogue scientist could become filthy rich.
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Dextrolord - Thu, 21 Nov 2019 03:27:32 EST t9+obISS No.612075 Reply
>>612069
screw you my higher level chem education hasn't even started yet

Ornamental poppies

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- Sun, 17 Nov 2019 21:24:57 EST CTpbttqK No.611999
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>>606550
Pardon my noobness but are there any ornamental varieties of Papaver somniferum that have significant quantities of morphine when they are fully grown? Normal poppies would attract too much attention here. You could plant lots of the beautiful looking ones (if they had enough alkaloids to be worth the trouble) and no one would bat an eye. Anyone know anything about this? I mean, it's winter now but I'm really curious.

The strain in this pic is called Papaver somniferum 'Danish Flag' but I don't know if it has any morphine, it does seem to develop relatively large pods though.
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Isabella Gallynidge - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 23:15:35 EST AzyZINSl No.612003 Reply
>>611999
afaik only Papaver somniferum have significant morphine. Any should do, but some are much danker. Ornamental doesnt really mean anything. To anyone with an eye, all opium poppies are pretty obvious.
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David Dirringspear - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 08:20:19 EST YofsFlfv No.612017 Reply
>>611999
only somniferum are active, but to my knowledge all of the somniferum are (to some degree, potency varies drastically with all poppy)

noko

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- Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:41:19 EST h6hF4z8+ No.612031
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Hey guys, my uncle passed away 2 years ago, i stumbled upon his medications stashed away in a drawer, i found a good amount of hydromorphone 6mg, and another bottle of 2mg. I live in Canada, what would be the average price of one of those? Also i dont know if anything i am asking of doing violates community guidelines, let me know and i'll remove my post thank you.
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Barnaby Nummletadge - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:14:46 EST OuqW2VxL No.612048 Reply
>>612042>>612042
shitty that everyone is hooked on H and fet now or the dillaudid (hydromorph) would probably go pretty quickly. They are the best tho, desu. Go grab a rig and inject one of the 2's.
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Nell Nannerbin - Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:20:57 EST h6hF4z8+ No.612054 Reply
>>612031
Found a buyer willing to trade an equal amount of weed for the pills, since weed is much easier to come by. I pocketed a few pills for myself, and will be gladly making that trade. Dont get me wrong, im not against using painkillers, i just prefer things like weed, lsd, and mushrooms, and in my circle of friends it is easier for me to sell weed, then pills.

What is available online besides kratom and seeds?

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- Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:29:44 EST oN6LT/Si No.611181
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I've had excruciating chronic pain after a car accident three years ago. My doctor has refused to give me a script for pain meds aside from a few weeks after a diskectomy(back surgery). He doesn't want me to be physically dependent, nevermind I'm on four other medicines that cause dependence. He just wants me to take 375mg aleve along with my other meds. It doesn't help that I'm 25.

Anyway kratom does pretty much jack shit. I know it isn't bunk I'll give friends 4gs and they'll be feeling good. Seeds are to expensive and such a crapshoot I can't rely on. I'd be interested in ODSMT but haven't found anywhere legit to order.

I would just do heroin like I have in the past but I can't drive, have no money, and everything has fentanyl now.

I appreciate any advice you guys have. Thank you
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 00:48:10 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612028 Reply
>>612024
There are definitely sober people who refuse drugs and alcohol, but smoke cigarettes and drink a pot of a coffee per day like it's nothing at all. How we conceptualize sobriety and being "clean" are important. Is someone enrolled in an opioid maintenance program or on a long-lasting benzo to no longer use opiates and alcohol, respectively, less clean than someone who does not seek out a program to ease their way into sobriety?
What about this, if people are technically operating under the influence of psychiatric drugs but are not abusing their medications should we consider them dirty/high?

The spectrum of sobriety is vast. With so many substances being normalized for usage (e.g. poppy seeds, kratom, coffee beans, sex, Internet usage, video games, food, etc.) we all have our own as well as deep cultural biases for and against certain mind or physically altering substances. In the U.S. and U.K. there are shitloads of individuals with food addictions. Are these people getting high on food? -yeah, in a lot of ways.

>Or they've decided to just start lying
While this completely may happen it is not always the reality. I think the lines of being clean and sober versus replacing one drug for another complicates the entire concept of sobriety. If sobriety is as cut and dry as not having any chemicals we can be dependent upon or that bring about chemical reactions deemed as pleasurable then I am not sure anyone is really, truly 100% sober in this life.

Sobriety may actually be unattainable when naturally occurring substances (e.g. cocoa) can cause a pleasurable experience. Defining substance abuse and dependency seems to be more possible or reasonable than outright defining what it is to be clean and sober.
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dr. m - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:19:55 EST LOk04uH3 No.612039 Reply
>>612027
How on earth are meds like SSRI antidepressants, mood stabilizers, or anti-psychotics not "sober"? So someone with a legitimate mental illness can never be "sober" again, just because they objectively require medication prescribed by multiple doctors, and taken as prescribed?

None of those meds make me remotely fucked up, not even remotely close. You must be thinking of like benzos and methadone or some shit. I feel 100% nothing from bupe whatsoever, never get the urge to take extra, and I honestly forget to take it half the time and only end up doing so because I start to experience physical WD.
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Ebenezer Wepperchack - Tue, 19 Nov 2019 17:54:48 EST vBUOIBuR No.612041 Reply
>>612039
Just popping in to point out that there is zero scientific evidence that antidepressants and antipsychotics work at all, and 'mood-stabilizers' don't actually exist - it's just what psychiatrists call antipsychotics to their patients to make them more likely to actually take them and priming patients with the idea that they'll work is what actually 'makes them work.'

Yes some of these are great for epilepsy or other conditions but the current 'gold-standards' in psych medicine are basically placebos and docs are okay with it because the older drugs that actually did something could be abused or had dangerous side-effects.

[/dangerous argument]

Magnetized heroin?

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:27:55 EST 6yqIUMPt No.612009
File: 1574054875689.jpg -(815392B / 796.28KB, 1080x1920) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Magnetized heroin?
Does anyone know why the fuck my #4 is magnetized?
When i was chopping it up it would scatter around and away from the card i used like magnetic repulsion and kept sticking to random plastic shit like a magnet does to metal.
>pic is the smack i'm talking about
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POOPPOOFACE

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- Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:38:38 EST THsMOzcQ No.610405
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How do I inject into my foot? Any sincere directions would be much appreciated.
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Basil Mennerpet - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 05:57:26 EST Gq7Ci+Hg No.610406 Reply
>>610405
Find a vein and inject. Look up some graphs online so you know where the arteries are. If you can't reach, lose some weight. I really don't know what kind of advice you expect here. Also there's a very good vein close to your ankle, most people have it very visible and easy to hit.
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Clara Girryfire - Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:47:53 EST 0D2KEBt3 No.610415 Reply
No rush below the waist
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Jarvis Nonnernan - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 21:07:11 EST 6fGKf6TU No.612025 Reply
>>610415
Thats absolutely not true! I'm blown everywhere but my neck and was recently plowing through the viens in my feet and got plenty high with a rush.

Obviously shorts will be yoir go to needle and be prepared for some mother fucking pain my man but there is some duzziez down there that can last ya a bit.
Sometimes they dont like to pop in the morning but anytime youre experiencing hidden viens just go for a good walk or jog. And again the pain can be a bitch sl3 put som e thing in your mouth so you dont chip yoir teeth

Laudanum

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- Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:44:47 EST UOWVP4sG No.611594
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Has anyone ever come across opiate tincture on the darkweb or otherwise? Would be better than pst with all the same wonderful effects, which is why I'm surprised it isn't more popular. Although, it does make sense that it's rare as it's rarely prescribed for anything. I wish I lived in the 19th century sometimes.
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Ian Dindletock - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 13:18:30 EST AzyZINSl No.611989 Reply
>>611983
Burroughs makes a big deal about raw opium being toxic in a few books. As a kid who knew nothing about drugs I knew opium had to be refined to be safe for whatever reason. Being a poppy tea addict for years, its certain not as benign as rx opiates. Sure youd get a bit more from searching around.
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DTMO - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:36:04 EST iwPQzXLg No.611995 Reply
>>611989
Yes, but Burroughs also talks a whole lot of other bullshit too ("just open your vein and eyedropper that shit in there, fam"). I was on the PST train for year, I'd be surprised if I learn much new from a quick googling. I'm pretty sure refined opium still contains thebaine. The process of going from "raw" to "refined" opium is also trivial.
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Isabella Gallynidge - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 18:53:20 EST AzyZINSl No.612021 Reply
>>611995
There are quite a few funk alkaloids, thebaine is just one. Opium primarily exists to prevent creatures from eating the plant.

why can't cartels make oxycodone/oxymorphone in powder/salt form?

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- Mon, 04 Nov 2019 22:45:08 EST ibjpT24K No.611658
File: 1572925508174.jpg -(246227B / 240.46KB, 1024x683) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. why can't cartels make oxycodone/oxymorphone in powder/salt form?
I bet the cartel or trafficker that finds a way to get hold of pure oxycodone will make a killing bigger than Pablo Escobar. Imagine selling a gram of oxy for 100-200 bucks?
Plus you won't kill your costumers unlike fent shit.

Or reality is more complex than that? is it really too hard to isolate thebaine from opium and then synthesize the oxy?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 05 Nov 2019 01:40:46 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.611667 Reply
>>611658
There's more money to be made with fentanyl and fent analogues

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Jack Cagglebedge - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 16:11:19 EST FPlDBgJW No.612020 Reply
I saw Oxycodone powder on the DNM once, from Hong Kong

DEA, FBI, NSA OR ATF

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!ZcijO7gk.6 - Mon, 11 Nov 2019 03:30:39 EST /tldDCDL No.611876
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Which agency do you suspect are lurking here. Quite a few of us have dropped off the face of the planet seemingly over the years. The internet never forgets and I suspect /opi/ has directly played a role in people that are likely doing bids right now...

Of course, there are those that have overdosed and faded into oblivion, but with opiates no longer an honorable problem, I feel like something is just off. The more I have thought about it, the worse it gets. Do you suspect /opi/ is "bugged"? Why wouldn't it be.

Inb4 I'm a stimmed out, braindead cunt. Be aware that if money from something seems good, it could cost you. We live in a weird time. If we don't adapt and stay observant, we are all as good as banned from IRL for at least 18 months a stretch.
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Alice Gockledale - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:13:27 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.612018 Reply
>>612013
>>612004
So people could pretend to be him, so what? It’s really not that big a deal. I don’t know who would even want to do so or what they would have to gain and it would still be pretty easy to tell if it wasn’t him especially if we start seeing Katz do out of character things like tell people to kill themself. Also it would be pretty obvious if we did see that and his writing style change up.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 18 Nov 2019 13:30:10 EST 9v++/pcV No.612019 Reply
>>612004
I’ve reported the image twice to mods. Major lapse of judgment on my end. Fuck.

>>612013
Drugs and keep deprivation do not lead to good choices.

nb

Headaches when snorting smack?

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- Tue, 05 Nov 2019 06:05:15 EST 28pgAMI2 No.611675
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I've been getting dull yet nagging headaches whenever I'm hoovering harry.
I'm gettng very pure white #4 and everyone else getting from same person has nothing but wonderful reviews.

Does anyone else experience this bullshit?
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Samuel Bannertuck - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 20:02:01 EST 846KSUGB No.611716 Reply
Who's the cat? nb

Headaches are normal. I get them on meth and h.
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Sophie Godgeville - Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:19:15 EST eiM7PORX No.611739 Reply
>>611716
It's Maggie the squirrel from krainagrzybow (check it out if you like disturbing internet shit)

I think the headaches are a sinus thing tbh.
The H makes my nose go super dry and crusty ehoch makes my sinuses all stuffy which i think builds up pressure causing headaches.
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Pandazie - Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:12:46 EST aro+f/jm No.611994 Reply
>>611675
SALINE NASAL SPRAY F T W !!!!
that shit is a god send and will help with ur dried up nasal passages and headaches too. That and make sure to drink tons of water cuz opies will dry u up from the inside out... Go grab a bottle of saline tho dude. Its super effective and safe to use daily all u want. Good for when ur doing lines and ur nose is dried and therefore not absorbing the powder or for when u need to clean out ur sinuses from all the junk after doing a ton of lines all day... use it b4 u go to bed and clean that shit out really well so ur nasal cavity has a chance to heal and recoup after being abused all day from foreign substances being up there 24/7. Plus then ur morning lines will hit way harder from having nicely cleaned out sinuses to snort with instead of cut infested, crusty, scabbed up, sore af, painful sinuses that barely wanna work. Believe me, been there done that got the bloody noses and headaches to prove it. Saline saved my nose for real.

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