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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:10:32 EST t93J/3b6 No.613622
File: 1581635432005.jpg -(19726B / 19.26KB, 480x467) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tolerance
I did a pill of Suboxone (not sure the strength) over the course of 16 hours about a day and a half ago. I've been told it blocks Opioids.
My friend gave me 150mg of Tramadol which is an opiate as you probably already know.
If I take it today would I even get high? Or should I wait a few days for the full effect?
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m - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:14:34 EST vgHBTjMI No.613797 Reply
>>613791
Well, seeing as naltrexone has a significantly higher binding affinity than bupe, it's even harder to cut through than bupe, assuming we're talking full/nearly full receptor saturation of both/either one. Anything that can't cut through bupe can't cut through naltrexone, and if it seems like it can, chances are that person has a low nltx oral BA efficiency, or has generally taken a relatively low dose. Nltx oral BA varies heavily from person to person, IIRC by as much as like ~1000% variation.
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DTMO - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 05:19:37 EST 6GHvrNL7 No.613809 Reply
>>613792
It was certainly pretty unpleasant coming off Suboxone. I've been (mostly) clean for some years now, or at least I've managed to keep my opioid use to every few months and haven't been physically dependent since. I had a year or more with no opioids before I started dabbling again.

>>613797
True, fair call. So I guess it's limited to fentalogues and stupid and impractical doses of other agonists.

Oxy with/without Acet

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- Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:16:14 EST igDemYrO No.613778
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Hello feel-good friends,

Question, do you like to mix oxys with acetaminophen?

I'm a low tolerance user and Im trying to decide whether I should do just 15mg oxycodone, or do 10mg with 500-1000mg acetaminophen.

Thanks in advance for the wisdom.
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DTMO - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 01:34:18 EST cA7HWjuL No.613790 Reply
>>613784
I'd love to see some evidence of cumulative damage from 1000mg doses of APAP.
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m - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 09:40:14 EST vgHBTjMI No.613794 Reply
>>613790
No no, I wasn't trying to suggest daily doses of 1000mg are damaging for those that don't already have compromised livers/pre-existing conditions. I was just trying to explain to OP that, generally speaking, APAP damage is cumulative over time and the damage dealt per mg of APAP is not even close to linear. It's repeated mid to high dose acute exposure. If you read my other post(s), I mention how I personally have 0 problem taking as much as ~3500-4500mg or even maybe 5000mg without doing a CWE, as long as I have access to a few grams of NAC and I'm only doing it like ~6x or less per year, maybe as often as like once a month if it's 3500mg or less.

I received liver damage from my acute Hep A infection, and between HIV/Hep B/C infections in many addicts and potential alcohol use, it's better to be safe than sorry. This isn't damage you can typically see or feel. So many people say something like "I used to take 6g per day for almost a year and I'm fine," and while they may be "fine," it's not like they'd really know unless they got blood tests regularly. And they may be fine now, but who knows how they'll be in 30 years?
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Ernest Pickdock - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 03:24:27 EST CjSYGK2m No.613806 Reply
>>613778
No reason to do so. If using for pain the acetaminophen will enhance the pain relieving effects. It would do nothing to enhance recreational effects.

On that note if getting prescribed Vicodin for pain. Ask the dr for vicoprophen.
I have seen drs eyes kinda light and say, sure. As well some may say, I have
never heard of it. Really? It offers better feeling all around.

If injured ask for pain relievers that do not contain acetaminophen. If offered
tram, just, naw. T3s, one may say it makes you feel ill. May get syrup substitute
instead. Which dosing is difficult to estimate compared to ? amount of T3s,
So likely to get upped a dosage that doesn't, at least me make me feel crappy,
and at least actually relive pain in lower doses and feel pretty much ok.
My opinion anyway.

Help me find Research Chems

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:46:59 EST 8uyyfOu3 No.613679
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Okay, so I'm going to be getting some money soon, couple hundred dollars. I am definitely trying to buy some research chems with it.

However, I have NO IDEA which sites are reputable, and I would definitely prefer a site that lets me use a PREPAID CREDIT CARD, like a Visa Gift Card.
If not that, I was wondering if I could use a Visa Prepaid Card or regular CC to buy some BitCoin from CoinBase, and then use that to purchase the Research Chems.
I'm looking to buy an RC that's extremely similar to heroin, fentanyl, or oxydone, or some RCs that very similar to Xanax or a strong fast acting potent Benzodiazepine.
Help a junkie out.
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Phineas Blurringchare - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 03:48:15 EST 7RaDv8Xu No.613721 Reply
>>613679
I'm kinda concerned that if I answer you, I'd be helping a minor buy drugs because you described acquiring a couple hundred bucks the way I'd describe getting an inheritance
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Caroline Brogglemig - Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:19:34 EST AYlrp4ua No.613724 Reply
>>613679
No sourcing on here. Try drug buyers guide or look for on a discord server browser for a RC server. You should really just talk to a doctor about getting Subutex/Suboxone.
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Doris Ninkinfield - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:24:36 EST s2F6hIG0 No.613805 Reply
>>613683
> Gemini-20
>29.33$
Damn I thought they were way more expensive literally half the price of some headshop RAW branded scale that only goes to 0.01
Buying it seems like a minefield on amazon tho with all the obvious copycats

Dope dick

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- Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:12:15 EST XT0yIrqw No.613716
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Title says it all, how do you guys overcome dope dick and actually bust a nut on opi? I've got a girlfriend now and I treasure her and dont wanna hurt her feelings by not coming and I'm starting to taper off but its gunna be a slow process and I don't wanna explain my habit... any tips to bust a nut?
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Augustus Pittbury - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 15:22:56 EST IGOdYKEx No.613802 Reply
>>613716
I don't cum. Period. Doesn't matter if I'm on drugs or not. Honesty is the best policy but I've sometimes said that it's a medication I'm taking.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 20:28:00 EST VZh75GaC No.613803 Reply
I'm on methadone and that alone doesn't do anthing. Even when I use heroin or something on top of my regular dose I'm not effected anymore. It's like my body got used to it. Even when it did effect me it was only the final stage of the act. Nothing else. This seems to be the case for the majority I've spoken to.

Long term methadone saps your testosterone and it's not uncommon to end up having to get injections of testosterone which suck. They make you cranky and shit apparently. It's peculiar, steroid use. There's still tons of myths surrounding it. From my questioning of steroid users though, they all refute "roid rage" and 100% of them all seemed real chill. They actually seemed pretty normal sized for the most part. Not like super swole cloud people who eat whole chickens.
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Ebenezer Tillingbanks - Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:11:39 EST IxGcrMpY No.613804 Reply
>>613803
Depends how the roids are used. TRT is much lower doses compared to cloud wannabes shooting tren. Id imagine methadone would balance out the rage too

Switching from methadone to suboxone

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 17:23:40 EST eDCRoLMi No.613738
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Hello everyone,

I've been on methadone for around 2 1/2 years I originally was at 80-120mg a day. I maybe having a change in income soon and may possibly lose my medicaid insurance that covers my methadone. I need to know what is the easiest way to transition to suboxone. Many people say either taper to under 30mg or just stop taking methadone or use heroin for around 7-10 days then wait till sick to start taking the suboxone. Also is suboxone covered by most insurance company like work insurance? They job already knows I'm a addict so it doesn't matter and its a guaranteed thing. I'm also pretty sick and tired of the daily trip to the clinic even if i do get like 3 take homes a week. Also do are psychiatrists willing to prescribe benzos to people on suboxone cause thats another major reason why I want to switch aswell besides for the income insurance issue. Thanks
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Henry Brangertidge - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 01:14:53 EST IxGcrMpY No.613765 Reply
>>613745
The number of times i've tried explaining to pharmacists who, after seeing my subutex+diazepam+zolpidem, suggest I buy some Naloxone, that it's pointless. Also the naloxone is stupid expensive, fucking pharma big.
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m - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:02:52 EST vgHBTjMI No.613795 Reply
>>613765
The saddest part IMO is that naltrexone has a higher binding affinity than bupe and all other common opioids, yet it's not prescribed/used for opioid OD antidote, presumably due to its much longer half-life. While it may not be as common for someone to OD and die on bupe vs. say dope or methadone, or bupe + downers vs. dope or methadone + other downers, it definitely still happens, ESPECIALLY for those inexperienced with bupe and other said downers.

I've got one or two naltrexone pills in my narcan kit, but I haven't gotten around to making a nasal spray/nasal syringe that's much stronger than ULDN, something like ~4mg/ml, as I don't have the proper filters, cold storage space, and antiseptic ingredients necessary to prevent long-term bacteria growth.

Let's be real. If someone is ODing, like they're going to die ODing, I'm more interested in you know, making sure they don't die instead of being worried if they'll be in precip WD for ~4-8 hours. Yeah sure I might be mad in the moment if it was done to be, but I'd just be glad I'm alive the next day.

It sucks that flumazenil isn't popularly available, and that using it safely requires much more medical knowledge than say naloxone/narcan. I wanted to get some, but all my docs said they might be auditing for scripting such things. The guy I narcanned in Cambodia had been drinking I believe and had actually taken like 10-30mg valium earlier in the day before he either ate or snorted "MDMA" that was clearly most likely real china white heroin. I told him as much, but Saudis don't know fuck all about drugs and aren't often capable of removing their ego from unsafe drug use.

Anyways, we got lucky in that just 2mg or 4mg nasal narcan was enough, but if it had been bupe+booze+valium, he could have possibly been a goner. We were on an island that didn't have paved roads, in a pseudo-rave venue that requires a ~30-45 minute light jungle trek from the main dock to even get to. There likely wasn't any narcan, at least in liquid form, within at least several hours by boat that usually only comes once a day.
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lol - Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:16:58 EST IggaRoSW No.613796 Reply
>>613795
Damn I give you props for saving someone and know what to do, I've been in that situation myself and saw others OD many times and most people are too freaked out to do anything quick so I usually am the one, like you said you wake up feeling HORRIBLE, only time I didn't was few times I took a ton of benzos too so I would just pass right back out but yeah most people don't take too kindly to waking up with potential strangers over them while every cell in your body is screaming, had someone throw a punch at me berfore after. It's not fun

Tianeptine

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- Mon, 27 Jan 2020 19:29:25 EST UI/tVgrq No.613277
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Can someone give me the low down on this shit?

I've been a hardcore drug addict for years now (IV heroin, crack etc) but I don't know shit about this tianeptine stuff. I had briefly heard about back in 2016 on circlejerk but never really paid attention to it. Now everyone around me is talking these Tianaa things in gas stations and people swear by them.

I know the gas station stuff is stupid expensive compared to just ordering the pure ingredient online, but is it worth trying. Is it an effective on Vivotrol? Also i hear the withdrawals are horrendous, can anyone attest to that?
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Samuel Brimmersudge - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 21:42:28 EST D/iKjtLy No.613762 Reply
>>613633
It's not the coke of opioids. Its the CRACK of opioids. The shit feels amazing, especially in the beginning. But it really makes you want to redose.
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Clara Breshwack - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 10:03:35 EST W90qOOis No.613766 Reply
haven't tried it yet but I will soon, i've heard pretty much everything everyone else has mentioned, but also all ROAs other than oral are prohibitively dangerous, especially IV/IM
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Clara Breshwack - Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:17:39 EST W90qOOis No.613770 Reply
>>613766
also marked differences in intensity and duration of action between sulfate vs sodium, the former lasts far long but has a lower peak

from what I've heard the freebase is unpalatable difficult to work with, i've not heard of anyone getting it, perhaps if you were keen on smoking/injecting it that would be the best option but again i've heard nothing but horror stories from people who have

Getting opi scripts from doctor apps

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 23:08:54 EST 5U7H9t40 No.613751
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Anyone ever tried or had success trying to get anything good by using one of those video call doctor appointment apps, like where they can send a script to a local pharmacy? How easy would it be to make up some chronic injury or pain and get them to write me a script for something good? Or could I get them to refill an old script for something like an opi or a benz?
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Caroline Snodbanks - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 00:35:33 EST l/QqfqV/ No.613753 Reply
>>613751
>something good

Fucking good luck trying to get anything more than 5mg hydrocodone (at BEST) unless you're literally dying or are in severe debilitating pain 24/7.
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m - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:03:15 EST vgHBTjMI No.613759 Reply
>>613751
>getting restricted Rx meds from a video call doctor

uh yeah no, that's not a thing. Most if not all states don't allow them to script S2 meds for sure, if not S2 and S3 meds. All opioids commonly scripted at either S3 or S2 these days. You can't even get a script that way. The only halfway decent thing they're even allowed to script is probably gabapentin.

That's if they're even willing to do so. I suspect most are not. Your idea is a waste of time. You'd have a 10x better chance by seeing a doctor in person, meaning your chance of success goes from like ~0-0.1% to maybe 1% max, lmao.

Non-chronic pain patients aren't generally treated anymore in the US. If you have chronic pain, then they'll most likely refer you to a subutex or methadone program. If you have the money to pay all out of pocket, you might be able to find a private practice that scripts methadone in pill form 2 or 4 weeks at a time. Technically methadone can only be scripted in such fashion for those with bona fide pain problems, so as solely an addict for example I couldn't utilize such services. Those are your best bet, but don't be surprised if the monthly or 2x/month visit ends up running you like ~$150-200+ per visit, not including the meds.

Also, if you want an opi or benz script, you have to pretty much get one or the other, not both. Generally, unless you're epileptic, no doc will script both anymore.

Just buy your benzos/RC benzos online.

Methadone in au

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 11:36:28 EST EtD6ykJ/ No.613615
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Yeah so im done with the bs, I need to get onto methadone, how does one do it in australia? Like I cant even get my valium anymore it fucking sucks and im ready to kill myself
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Reuben Gillyson - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 08:14:38 EST vvb2efLQ No.613756 Reply
Also ive been taking like 10 to 20mg of my dads methadone for years now for it, but he lost his takeaways except for 2, so I only get 3 doses a week and thats bearly anything
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Emma Sigglehall - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 15:29:44 EST FydsvRgh No.613757 Reply
>>613756
Are you OP?
If so why dont you ask your dad for help getting on methadone
Why'd he lose his takehomes btw
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m - Sun, 23 Feb 2020 16:54:58 EST vgHBTjMI No.613758 Reply
>>613755
You realize that you can't just take methadone maintenance whenever you please, right? Most jurisdictions require a substantial amount of daily supervised dosing until you can get take homes, and by then you'll surely be dependent. This isn't a take-it-as-you-please program, and it's not geared towards pain patients...it's for maintenance.

How do I get rid of pain?

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- Thu, 13 Feb 2020 02:41:21 EST isftLE8E No.613612
File: 1581579681373.png -(70422B / 68.77KB, 688x750) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do I get rid of pain?
It is really psychosomatic? What helps got besides junk? Holy shit I'm so non productive when I'm in pain and I'm so depressed about how I'm just in pain all the time, that's why I got hooked on this stuff. My back is killing me, I just want to lay down all the time and because I'm laying down I can't do a lot of stuff, I just want to kill myself because it's so hard to cope by doing drugs. This turns into a habit it is even more comfortable to nod off or I get stuck doing nothing. I don't want to depend on drugs anymore and I was only able to do things like going out because I was using stuff like kratom or poppy pods. When I'm off of them for even months I'm just so different. I don't have motivation. What can I do? I have been doing this song and dance for over a decade now, I was never in danger of dying or shooting up. I never did this to get high. What is the end of addiction or the use of this stuff look like? I'm so done, I can't help but cry like a bitch about how much this drug has taken from me but also gave me an escape from my pain.
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Morphiate !!FINz0LE9 - Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:17:23 EST zaurUfK0 No.613747 Reply
Just thought I would give my own personal experience with nearly this exact issue.

I wrecked my back way back in highschool and ever since its been in pain. At first it would only be a problem when I was standing for long periods of time. Then I got into opiates and decided to try and scam a script out of it. My back wasn't bad enough to need opis but I got them nonetheless. I was on tons of opioids, vicodin, then trams, and methadone, to morphine, then some dilaudid+morphine, then to fent patches, then finally back to methadone. All the while I was using huge amounts of poppy pods every day.

During this time my back got so much worse. So days I would wake up in the morning and my back would be hurting so much I couldnt move. Thats why I kept getting my dosages upped and switched to new meds. It really was getting worse in my head despite the drugs and the crazy amount of alternative treatments I was trying out. Then finally my doctor said she couldn't continue prescribing me Methadone and said I would have to ween off. It took a few months after being cut off before I actually stopped for good.

During my time in withdrawal my back got even worse. It made me want to relapse every single moment of every day. But I pushed through it and like 4 or 5 months clean I actually started to feel better. My back wasn't as bad as in withdrawal or when I was using. I did fall back into chipping again but I've stayed away from more than a few weeks using at a time and my back has never been better. It actually gets worse when I abuse for more than a few days in a row.

You may have come across the condition known as "Opioid-induced hyperalgesia". Its a rare disorder but it can manifest itself in individuals who use lots of opioids painkillers. Basically the opioids themselves start to make your body MORE sensitive to pain instead of helping alleviate it. I'm not saying you or even I had that condition, but its something to think about for sure. All I know is getting clean of the opioids (that I admittedly didn't really need) improved my pain levels.

One thing I will mention is that the other thing that improved my back more than anything else was changing beds. When I was in the middle of my opioid abuse I was sleeping on a crappy futon that I never bothered to fold out. When I switched to a normal memory foam bed it was only a week or so before my back started to improve. So that's something to think about. People have suggested yoga and other stretching to me but I never did any of it lol.

Anyways I hope that helps in some way. I've lived with back pain for over a decade and I know just how debilitating and demoralizing having constant pain and immobility can be. I hope you can find some relief outside of the painkillers.

Kratom and other opiates.

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 17:58:20 EST hSVJXVfO No.613740
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Will taking kratom (around 10 gs) in the morning block any other opiates I plan taking later in the day? Or kill a good amount of the high?
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m - Sat, 22 Feb 2020 20:15:51 EST vgHBTjMI No.613746 Reply
>>613740
Generally, yes it most likely will. Everyone is different, but yeah don't mix kratom with other opioids unless the kratom dose is very small (<1-2g) and the non-kratom opioid dose isn't too big. Wait at least 24 hours, or optimally maybe ~36-72 hours, before taking other opioids. If you had only taken like 3-3.5g then maybe 24hr would be fine, but 10g is a large dose.

Plugging no3 h woth citric and acetyl l carnatine

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- Sat, 22 Feb 2020 05:32:48 EST dwSVC+GT No.613731
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Any health risks? I stopped smoking it
Can you absorb talc.cooked into acid up ur butthole?
I dont really yse a lot of citric about 10 to 20mg tops amd 25mg.h to 100mg h doses depending on prevelance of constipation and urinal retention

Tapering

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:04:54 EST Mjy8E5PD No.613675
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How much heroin do I need to taper off kratom? Thanks
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Graham Buzzson - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:41:15 EST xLCKwbm0 No.613710 Reply
>>613709
Because I really wanted to post that michael jackson x kingdom hearts x ace attorney pic

Mixing Tilidin and Ketamine

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- Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:54:48 EST S02vV0fl No.613711
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Hello fellas,

I came across a bunch of tilidin and dropped 100mg, now im wondering if its a good idea to do some ketamine in moderate dose.

I did K for like 5 months straight like every other day so i got quite a tolerance.
also im not too sure if its the real K or s-ket or fluoro ketamin.

I read about it and found some warnings about that combo, but at rather high doses. The risk of breath-depressions.

any advice?

Foil Cone for complete idiots

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- Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:37:52 EST j9aG8CkP No.613698
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Sup y'all. I need some help. I'm a mod elsewhere on the interwebs for a place too embarrassing to mention.

These people are in desperate need of assistance. I'm trying to explain how to make a foil cone. The problem is I've never needed to make one because I possess the hand eye coordination to just chase it on a piece of foil.

Google was no help. Maybe it's called something else? What I'm asking is how to make one of those devices to minimize the loss of smoke when vaping off foil.

If you are reading this, way to not OD. You guys are awesome.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:04:34 EST tciyKPMT No.613703 Reply
Multiple rolls of foil around a pen but make a single layer thick spoon like holder at the bottom bretty easy bruh
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 21:05:07 EST tciyKPMT No.613704 Reply
>>613703
Oh and take the pen out after you make the foil toobe obvs
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Scourgeofthewest - Thu, 20 Feb 2020 02:40:27 EST j9aG8CkP No.613706 Reply
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>>613703
Thank you sir. These people are extremely stupid. Makes sense to me though. Let's see if they follow. >>613698

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