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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

O-DSMT with Meds

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- Mon, 18 May 2020 22:41:40 EST c97PkLVJ No.615282
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I take Mirtazapine 30mg and Abilify 5mg every night. Would it be a bad idea if I took around 30-50mg of O-DSMT? I tried searching the internet for an answer but couldn't find anything. I also take kratom daily with no interactions with my meds.

Thank you.
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Tue, 19 May 2020 14:02:23 EST vBUOIBuR No.615284 Reply
>>615282
>I take Mirtazapine 30mg and Abilify 5mg every night.
Why would you do this to yourself?
Also it'll be 100% fine, those are all joke dosages.

I wish

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- Mon, 18 May 2020 05:04:08 EST Mjy8E5PD No.615262
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I had a nod off buddy. Been getting high alone since I finished college.
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Blinkey Bill - Mon, 18 May 2020 19:42:11 EST lAgcbvbG No.615278 Reply
>>615267
I wanna be a baller , shot caller 20 inch on the impala, called her getting laid tonight
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Priscilla Briddlebury - Wed, 20 May 2020 04:23:43 EST C2NzXdib No.615292 Reply
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>>615262
wats ur discordddddd u need a nod buddy :(
mines binkadink!#9347

Dumb question

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- Sun, 17 May 2020 22:30:37 EST DfDdHL6h No.615254
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Can you get high on methadone? Or suboxone?
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Curious weenis - Sun, 17 May 2020 22:36:54 EST 6xHhg06P No.615255 Reply
>>615254
Methadone, yes.
Suboxone, it depends on your tolerance. Suboxone is a partial opioid agonist with incredibly high affinity for the mu opioid receiver. If you have no tolerance, the partial activation of these receptors will result in opioid effects, of your tolerance is high, it will unlikely cause an effect greater than baseline tolerance, therefore no opioid effect will occur (which is why it’s the best option for opioid replacement therapy)

Kratom/opiate cross tolerance

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- Tue, 12 May 2020 01:22:16 EST CxSjiYvs No.615192
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So the folks over at leddit are saying that kratom competes with the same receptors etc etc and completely cancels out the effects of good old regular opiate pain pills.

I have 30 mgs of oxy and have been taking 15 gs of kratom at night for the last four months, and about 5 grams for the prior eight months before that. How long should I wait until the blocking effect from the kratom wears off so that I can actually feel these shits?
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Emma Crosslehood - Wed, 13 May 2020 00:21:42 EST E/I1OZhh No.615199 Reply
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I know but I'm not going to tell you, no matter how cool that pic is.

You ruined it!
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Hannah Snodforth - Sun, 17 May 2020 05:56:00 EST EINX1I52 No.615245 Reply
I don't know either but I don't want to start a new thread to ask my question. I was taking around 1-2g a day for about a year, then I tapered to like 0.25g and quit for a month then went on a binge taking higher doses than I was ever taking before that for about a month then quit abruptly. The 5-6 days following I was an a generally bad mood, but now I feel like I'm high, like higher than I could possibly feel while taking Kratom. Has anyone else experienced that type of feeling after quitting? I'm not taking anything else other than atypical antipsychotics and nicotine gum. I've been on both of those for about 3 years though.
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Walter Bemmlelock - Sun, 17 May 2020 19:27:11 EST SQ3H5q0j No.615252 Reply
>>615199
did them two days later after a break from the kratom and felt nothing

thank

Hep C Thread

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- Wed, 13 May 2020 20:57:53 EST qIwULXln No.615202
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Dedicated to us with Hep-C. I got cured when I was sober, did that pill a day shit for 3 months. I relapsed and Im pretty sure I contracted it again because I have a real issue with reusing needles. Who else got that shidddd?
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 16 May 2020 08:18:45 EST w/6udzIn No.615237 Reply
>>615233
Thank God opiates seemed to have ruined my ability to drink any kind of alcoholic beverage. It's a shame being jeered for ordering a coke every time I'm at the bar with friends. If only they knew how much pain and discomfort I immediately feel from alcohol. I also find other substances like coke or amp based drugs give me instant sweats and crippling depersonalization.
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lol - Sat, 16 May 2020 13:00:39 EST IggaRoSW No.615240 Reply
>>615237
Yeah thankfully I've never been much of a drinker. Got turned off to it at a pretty young age from seeing family members affected by it.i didn't know it could make it that much worse. I figured only alcoholics were at risk of it but if it's that serious I probably will skip even a drink or two with friends on occasions. I need to take care of my sweet tooth next. Ever since ive got on methadone I've gained so much weight and I eat way too much candy.
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Phoebe Geffingwell - Sat, 16 May 2020 13:49:19 EST 23ewvkMM No.615241 Reply
I've never been much of a drinker either. Or at least until I found opis. Once I discovered opis I realized that alcohol just doesn't do any of the things I want out of a recreational drug. So I stopped drinking.

Kratom + Speed

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- Sat, 16 May 2020 11:13:50 EST V6gbxsoq No.615238
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Kratom + Speed

Hope this is the right section. What is the best way to mix ephedrine/pseudoephedrine and kratom? I have reds, whites, and greens. Wondering if a white + speed would be best, or if this would be too up. Or if a green + speed would be best? I tried this yesterday but I still slept all day, the fucking opioid effect was too powerful. Ideally I want to feel like I am on a stimulant and feel euphoric mentally, but a body buzz works too, I just don't want to be wanting to sit down, rather being on my feet. Am I just using too high of a dose of kratom and/or too low of a dose of speed?

Thx.

Lets Go do something A+

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- Mon, 11 May 2020 08:51:16 EST Ip+CYnz7 No.615170
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Barbara 'Aunt Bea' Lang Pain Clinic Owner Sentenced To 280 Years In Prison

............ 60 of conspiring to illegally distribute controlled substances (oxycodone and Xanax) at Superior One Pain Clinic and Primary Care Pain Clinic, two pain management clinics owned and operated by Lang.

Please send her many holy blessings & uplift her spirit for being a true holy gem.....
You can write to her via snailmail,email or send her books from Amazon.


BARBARA LANG #45300-074
FMC Carswell
FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTER
P.O. BOX 27137
FORT WORTH, TX 76127


https://doctorsofcourage.org/barbara-lang-owner/
https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
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Fucking Pashsitch - Thu, 14 May 2020 08:20:50 EST OjvfybaZ No.615209 Reply
Dont hate the player, hate the game, the gov could very well control the flow of drugs like it does in europe, but they'd rather enable a system based on quotas
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Reuben Pottingwater - Fri, 15 May 2020 21:34:43 EST 3Z8x80x4 No.615235 Reply
>>615170
The level of conspiracy is 'likely' nothing compared to those who prosecuted her.
Trumps gang tried to prosecute high level execs of the pharm industry. Which Trump was touting as being tough on the industry, but the prosecution failed.
So Trump lost his already planed political clout in this instance.

Unless this woman was really criminal, even murderous drug lords don't get this sentence.

I would not fight for her, but, the fact remains. She simply prescribed drugs, people like their drugs. Simple as that. Or people need pain and drug medication.

Trump pardoned the worst of political figures.

Tramadol and Adderall - seizure risk?

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:38:43 EST IHuv6N5b No.614122
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I take 45mgs of Adderall and 2mgs of clonazapam daily.

I took 150mgs of tramadol this morning along with my clonazapam. Would it be dangerous to take some of my adderall?

I had a seizure a while ago because I stopped taking my clonazapam and took a large dose of kratom.

Anyone ever mix trams and Adderall? Is this too risky?
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m - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:15:01 EST vgHBTjMI No.614130 Reply
>>614125
Honestly, the biggest piece of the puzzle is making sure you take adequate clonazepam relative to your normal tolerance to ensure sufficient anti-epileptic properties. Again, one big factor of tramadol-related seizure risk that IMO is not discussed enough is whether you stagger your doses or not. Staggered tramadol is not only more euphoric and at least for pain that's not "nerve related" or otherwise atypical (meaning traditional opioids would be otherwise effective), is a much stronger analgesic.

The reason why staggered tram is much less seizure-causing is because staggered tramadol results in a much higher % of tramadol metabolizing into O-DSMT, ultimately increasing the O-DSMT portion of effects (functions mostly like a typical MOR agonist and no known significant SNRI/SSRI effects) and decreasing actual tramadol's effects.

>My tips for you

Seriously, 150mg tram or less isn't that risky, as long as you take more clonazepam than normal that day, and try to time it so that you take the clonazepam either with the first tram dose, or maybe an hour before the first tram dose.

As for adderall, if you can manage it, definitely take less than normal, like 10-30mg, and do so preferably 6-10 or so hours before the tram dose so that half the adderall has left your system.

Again, adderall plays a role, but #1 staggering your tram to 50mg every 30 minutes and #2 taking maybe 3mg kpin before the tram is the most important thing.
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Mïñďş - Mon, 11 May 2020 11:10:56 EST nW//ttt0 No.615174 Reply
>>614122
Honestly do this combo all the time. Take the rall first and let it settle in then take the trams. You'll be fine with the tram being a relatively low dose. In my own opinion, they're very synergistic together. Sometimes feels like a low key roll :l
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Reuben Pottingwater - Fri, 15 May 2020 21:16:48 EST 3Z8x80x4 No.615234 Reply
>>614122
My question is why tramadol even exists as a safe alternative to pain relief.
It works well for pain mixed or enhanced with ibuprofen.

question about kratom and subs

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- Sat, 09 May 2020 13:48:31 EST j42z5sUg No.615156
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So I'm a daily kratom user, and have a pretty long history with opiates, and recently a friend of mine found a sub that we plan on splitting due to lack of tolerance and the only substance use either of us partake in,aside from occasional drinks and weed is kratom.
Point being is, I'm a bit worried that the subs might cause precipitated withdrawals from the kratom, but i have yet to be able to find a definitive answer, I'm curious as to whether or not anyone on this board would happen to have any insight into the matter
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Alice Cunkinkodging - Thu, 14 May 2020 06:59:53 EST 5U7H9t40 No.615208 Reply
>>615200
If they banned that shit in France then it’s only a matter of time before they ban it in the US

Fuck
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Cornelius Fengerwutch - Thu, 14 May 2020 09:35:15 EST EuAk/hJt No.615210 Reply
>>615208
Hahahahaha

I cant wait for this, butthurt kratom fags
Then later
No kratom fags
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Polly Duckhall - Thu, 14 May 2020 09:53:28 EST Dy05GOhu No.615211 Reply
>>615208
Already banned in my state. Shit sucks, I love me some Maeng Da or some Bali Red. Also K-chills were quite nice, especially when on sale

Opiates and benzos and not dying all together

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- Tue, 12 May 2020 08:40:26 EST WikwoBZn No.615193
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Hey, I could do with some help from the more experienced

Normally I drink or use like 6-7g of kratom in evenings, use codeine occasionally for hangovers.

This weekend is my birthday and everything is closed because of the beer virus, so rather than doing anything social I'm just going to get fucked up with my girlfriend.

I've got some high purity coke for Saturday night so gonna get drunk and energetic on that.

My question is for my suffering on Sunday.

I've got a handful of 2mg Xanax bars, 2 5mg oxycodone, 10mg morphine capsule (it's got little balls inside so I assume it's slow release, I just smashed them up before I got to my last one) and 1 30mg codeine/500mg paracetamol.

I have such small amounts of all these pills because I can't be trusted with them if there's more.

I want to know how to make my Sunday nice without dying mixing these things.

I figured 10mg oxy when I get up to battle the dread, then half a bar after eating something, and then the morphine and another half bar once that wears off and maybe another half bar before bed.

Or has anyone got other suggestions for how to improve this?

Or am I being an idiot and there's better ways to do this?

I'm not fucking with the kratom that day because I tried it with Xanax last night and felt nothing of the kratom whatsoever.
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Blinkey Bill - Tue, 12 May 2020 17:44:42 EST AnJEM4tz No.615197 Reply
>>615195
Take you opiates on and empty stomach. Avoid if you have no tolerance.
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Eugene Blythefield - Tue, 12 May 2020 18:59:01 EST fwUYZSaJ No.615198 Reply
>>615195
Just eat all the opiates at once with a half a bar and chill the fuck out for a while. No ones dying from that considering how weak oral morphine and codeine is, just be careful on the bars cause you can end up just eating them all and blacking out if you're not careful. May be smoke some weed if you have some, opi/benz/weed is one of my favorite mixes also gives the best nods
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 13 May 2020 21:49:29 EST t+lBV+SE No.615205 Reply
You'll be fine. It's a good time. Ppl only die with extremely high doses of both.

I just took 640mg of ER morphine, 2mg Ativan, and 90mg Temazepam. Sure I have a tolerance and done this many times before but it's not this instant recipe for death unless you are practically trying to kill yourself.

picking pods

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- Mon, 11 May 2020 12:37:20 EST 2gT8JLMv No.615177
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i have the chance to pick poppies later. hopefully i will have about a pound's worth, as i can't really score and wait to collect tears. what should i do with the pods? i've seen opium teks using just hot water to reduce tea into goop, do i have to dry them out though? let me know what could work
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Thomas Tootman - Mon, 11 May 2020 14:05:03 EST 29QbCoeq No.615180 Reply
>>615179
Cut off pod, you can also get stems. parts of stem closest to pod has more morphine, get like a foot or 2 of stems
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Thomas Tootman - Mon, 11 May 2020 14:07:08 EST 29QbCoeq No.615181 Reply
>>615180
You dont have to dry them to make tea, just cut open and remove seed guck. Dry them if you got enough to store for awhile, can freeze instead of drying too.
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Morphiate !!FINz0LE9 - Mon, 11 May 2020 21:48:09 EST zaurUfK0 No.615191 Reply
It all depends on what exactly you want to do with the pods, or rather how you want to consume them. If you have your heart set on smoking opium then it would be far easier to bleed the pods and refine the collected resin. There are TEKs that go from poppy pods to smokable resin but there are more steps and properly filtering becomes and absolute necessity.

If you are only after making tea then just cut them and use as needed. Like >>615181 said, you don't even need to dry them if you are just making tea.

If you are collecting and storing a pound of them make sure they dry well and quick. The pods are moist and are a perfect breeding ground for fungus so quickly drying the pods is very important if you may be storing for a while. I've never had to store fresh pods for any period of time so I'm not exactly sure what works best. Personally I would try put them in a box or bag with some desiccant and that will dry them out real quick. A sock full of those moisture-absorbing beads placed next to a wet item works great for drying out things in a hurry. Instant rice may work too, sure works well on a wet phone :p. Hopefully someone else with more personal experience can chime in on best practices for long-term storage of freshly cut poppy pods.

Be careful and enjoy OP, pods are an amazing opi but they are also nothing to laugh at. Tolerance grows quickly and trust me when I say a pound of pods is more than enough to get highly addicted if you use every day.

Self Medicating - Codeine/Tram Q

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- Mon, 11 May 2020 19:48:01 EST ubAtvxZB No.615188
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Probably not the best place for this but here I go.

Having extreme dental pain and surgery isn't for a week or 2. I have paracetamol combined with a small amount of codeine and caffeine and I have tramadol. Debating using the para/codeine mix during the day (probably about 50 total) and then the Tramadol at night (single 50 dose). Or should I just use the Trams (probably do about 200 a day) and use Ibuprofen in conjunction to alleviate the swelling?

Bad breakup need some opies

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- Tue, 05 May 2020 14:42:42 EST x4X2AtMc No.615118
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Hey guys, so my crazy ex gf left me and beat the shit out of me and got some other people to pull guns and beat me, I'm in some serious pain.

I haven't really done much opiates before, H like 3 times, oxys like 2 and codine like 5 times. I'm just needing something to numb the pain but i don't really know the scene for opis, i do for weed and psys and I can easily find meth but i dont wanna be up and i wanna be down.

What are your recommendations for someone who is new this to this world but wants to take like a couple weeks off and just pop some pills and chill.
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lol - Wed, 06 May 2020 08:05:44 EST IggaRoSW No.615135 Reply
>>615118
Doubt you care as you probably made your mind up already but these sort of upsetting or traumatic situations are highly likely to contribute to you getting hooked if you use to dull the pain. Just get some codeine or some shit. Don't do H

Buprenorphine and dextromethorphan

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- Wed, 29 Apr 2020 07:12:39 EST naGGBKY2 No.615022
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Does anybody have any information or experience with these 2? I want to know if they are safe to mix together. I've looked around on google but I can't find a straight answer after searching.

I've been on 24mg of Suboxone for about 2 years, DXM I haven't taken at all since getting on Suboxone.

Some questions I have are:
Will the buprenorphine block the DXM from getting onto the receptors like it does with morphine based drugs, is DXM? Would a low dose of DXM be safe but a higher dose become dangerous? Or the other way around since DXM becomes a dissociative at higher doses and is a sedative at the low doses? Is Serotonin Syndrome a risk?
I thought about working my way up with the dose but I'm worried that after the dose gets to a certain level when the DXM starts it dissociative effects, that only then I'll get the negative effects.

Thanks for any help.
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Morphiate !!FINz0LE9 - Sat, 09 May 2020 20:13:28 EST 7YtY5+xJ No.615164 Reply
OP, its mostly safe to mix together but if you start pushing the dosages on both you will have issues with respiratory depression. DXM is weird in that its effects feel very stimulatory in nature but it is also a CNS depressant. What helps you here is that Bupe is only a partial opioid agonist at the mu-receptor so things like respiratory depression are harder to overdo with bupe (but still not impossible).

A big reason people combine DXM with any opioid is that it is theorized to reduce opioid tolerance buildup. Some people dislike combining them because it can alter the high to be less enjoyable (for me anyway). Personally I would save the DXM for my off days and use the opiates alone. I've never had Bupe before though so I can't say how the two would combine for sure. Definitely keep them separate if you are planning on anything past Plat 1 doses with the DXM. I can't say for sure but I'm pretty sure the DXM will just overpower the opiate feels after 1st plat anyway so its wasted. And the CNS depression isn't something you want to mess with if you can help it.

Also DXM isn't very far off from Codeine really. If you reverse the molecule (Levomethorphan) and then add the 4,5 epoxy bridge, 7,8 double bond, and a 6-hydroxyl its codeine. Levomethorphan (and Levorphanol) are potent opioids in their own right. So yeah DXM isn't an opioid, it IS a morphinan which is something. And its levorotatory isomer IS an opioid. Pretty neat huh?
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DTMO - Sun, 10 May 2020 13:01:24 EST YfgV0OMT No.615165 Reply
>>615154
Yes... Buperenorphine blocks the actions of other opioids. It seemed an.odd question.

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