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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Using on vivitrol.

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- Sun, 18 Aug 2019 19:45:03 EST vxU1Ds4w No.609617
File: 1566171903239.png -(854334B / 834.31KB, 750x1334) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Using on vivitrol.
Sup opi. So my question is what is the earliest day you can use on vivitrol and feel it. Yes I know all the risks involved in doing this. I’m on day 20 currently and haven’t tried anything yet but I know it wears off in 28 days but I got a toothache that hasn’t gotten any better so I’m trying to get some relief from shooting something. Thanks in advance 👍🏼.
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Phyllis Buzzcocke - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:20:44 EST cbXJ46oj No.609668 Reply
must be some toothache
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dr. m - Tue, 20 Aug 2019 18:43:29 EST qsHN3Ndz No.609695 Reply
>>609617

I'm so sorry your....toothache...hurts so much you feel the need to shoot up. I used to tell people that you could try using suboxone/subutex because buprenorphine will break through naloxone, but that was before I found out vivitrol is naltrexone, not naloxone. Naltrexone has a stronger binding affinity than both buprenorphine and naloxone.

Your only hope is to wait until maybe day ~25-35 and use suboxone. This is because, while naltrexone will block just about any semi-common opioid, its half life is only 4-6hr. Naltrexone's metabolite is the one with the half life of like 13hr or something. Why is this important? Suboxone aka buprenorphine will break through naltrexone's metabolite, but not naltrexone itself. So towards the last few days or maybe a week of the vivitrol shot's effectiveness, it's possible that theres little to know actual naltrexone being released, and it's just the buildup of naltrexone metabolite that ensures that vivitrol remains effective for at least a full 28 days.

So tl;dr, you could try suboxone after around day 21 or later, but it likely wont work until at least 28-30 days, possibly 35+. However, suboxone/subutex is the most likely opioid to work towards the end of a month of vivitrol.

Honestly man, why are you even getting vivitrol unless it's court ordered? Personally I'd fight for sublocade instead.
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Jenny Shittingman - Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:21:17 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.609702 Reply
I used to wait till the 30th day off vivitrol and start shooting again for like a day or two and then get the shot again lol.

Should I assume my dumb decision is H?

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 05:19:07 EST VkyM8MkQ No.609440
File: 1565860747336.jpg -(198630B / 193.97KB, 3008x1960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Should I assume my dumb decision is H?
Found some powder in a users room when I visited a house I had to do something at. Took a gel cap filled with chunky white powder which I assume is scramble H. And some small thin glas vial with a plastic topper on it not sure what it was but pretty sure it was some opiate as we. Been binging lil bumps every couple hours. Feels like an opiate. Tried to test em with my mandelin kit. But I think its bad due to its a couple years old. Liquid is a nasty brown color now.

Feels like an opiate but I havnt been going to full nods but I cant keep myself asleep for more more than a couple hours. On east coast by baltimore. I seem fine and high, itchy and tiny pupils. Should I assume its h?
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Eugene Pittfuck - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:39:09 EST 4dTnJKkc No.609656 Reply
>>609440
Has anyone shit on this guy for stealing a guy's (probably) entire stash yet? If he was sick, and took SOME, that'd be one thing, but it doesn't seem like he has a habit since he can't even tell immediately if he's got an opiate or not after snorting it. Yeah, you probably do, OP, but that's pretty shitty man. I'd beat the complete shit out of you if I found out beyond a doubt you were the one who took the last of my shit when I started kicking hard; sorry to be hateful but I really hope karma fucks you over for that shit.
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Eugene Pittfuck - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:44:38 EST 4dTnJKkc No.609658 Reply
>>609656
Ok, so, looking at the post again, you probably DIDN'T take his whole stash. I misread at first and thought you said you took a couple caps and vials, so my bad. But those could've easily been the only 2 he had left for the foreseeable future so..I kinda take it back, but not completely.
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Phyllis Buzzcocke - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:45:46 EST cbXJ46oj No.609663 Reply
>>609656
I mean, after that thread about the dude going on like a mini rampage or the thread about kidnapping/being kidnapped (i forget the deets), trying to be a voice of morality here is sort of like pissing into a hurricane. Is it the right thing to do? of course. will you end up covered in piss and also probably dead from being in a hurricane? absolutely. has this analogy gotten away from me? definitely. in conclusion, I completely agree with you but I've given up on trying to give people advice or judgement (not that you should give up, at least someone on here should call people out for their dumbass junky shit).

Growing poppy sprouts to make poppy plant smoothies. Documentation thread.

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:43:39 EST 6YEguU42 No.609581
File: 1566096219264.jpg -(1387424B / 1.32MB, 3264x2448) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Growing poppy sprouts to make poppy plant smoothies. Documentation thread.
Okay so I posted in the Fresh Pods thread about this but I wanted to make a thread to document my experiment and I encourage others to try this out too so we can see if we can make our own 'opium tea' in the comfort of our homes.

I have these two sources specifying the rate of alkaloids as the plant progresses to grow
https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1958-01-01_1_page005.html

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/PHY_41_1_0087-0096.pdf

and I'll post the tables from those sources in this thread.

We have triple-decker food steamer (pic related) that we use to grow broccoli sprouts that I'll be using for this undertaking.
From what I've read, 4 days after sowing the seeds morphine can be traced so I'll do my first dose then and if it doesn't work I'll keep growing them for up to 6 weeks (or until my steamer cant fit anymore growth).
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Thomas Gennerwick - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:56:36 EST 6YEguU42 No.609597 Reply
>>609594
Thanks for the tip!

But specifically someone posted a link here maybe like a month ago for a online seeds store that was selling, according to them, poppy seeds used in the Middle East for opium production. It was kind of a weird outdated looking site but they had normal products too.

I think i the description they said that the seeds were highly sought after and a rare find and had a quote from a farmer or whatever saying something like "they just showed up and told us the plant these seeds, they grew in only x weeks and had a higher yield than usual".
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Phoebe Lighthood - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 14:42:30 EST SI0jDs3E No.609647 Reply
>>609585
It may not matter as much for this guys purposes, since he's only sprouting and not fully growing them out. The genetic disposition to making more morphine may not be noticeable until the plant's have fully grown, and could be more uniform across different strains when they're sleeping tiny sprouts.

Potentiator Question

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- Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:45:58 EST 7Teze97q No.609561
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I've heard that hydroxyzine can potentiate opiates, but just how strong is the effect?
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Nigel Sadgemotch - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:04:14 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609562 Reply
>>609561
I just got out of the ER a month ago (ish) with a perc RX and I am already prescribed hydroxyzine...

I didnt notice much of a difference...if you routinely take hydroxyzine the drowsiness isnt an issue anymore
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Martin Brecklefield - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 23:20:30 EST U8xxeth7 No.609628 Reply
>>609561
It's bullshit advice of desperate junkies and opi noobs. Antihistamines don't do shit. Mainly all they do is make you tired and dirty the high while removing energy and euphoria from it. Only reason anybody does this is trying to combat itching in desperate hopes of getting just anything for slightly longer legs on stomped on garbage. Don't even bother. If you have to mix it with anything mix it with pot. Or little bit of alcohol, if you have tolerance to both and aren't moron enough to OD.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 19 Aug 2019 00:52:14 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609634 Reply
>>609561
I think synergy is more so what you’re asking about. A typical potentiation technique for opiates involves inhibiting CYP3A4 with grapefruit or cimetidine (Tagamet), which has a rather significant reaction.

Methadone, using opiates while on methadone possible?

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 01:49:30 EST osznr6gK No.609477
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I've been on 110mg of methadone for about 8 months, and I'm wanting to use opiates. If I use other opiates, will I feel any effect at all? How long do I need to stop taking methadone before I can feel any effects? Anyone have any experience with this?
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:18:26 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609577 Reply
>>609565
PM stands for Pain Management however it is not by any means a pill mill as dr. m claims here >>609575

For a long time now you have to go to PM if you want recurring scripts. The DEA also keep putting out new regulations that make it harder for current patients and almost impossible to get new patients in. My PM doc has a huge waiting list and he certainly isn't one to just hand out drugs.

Real deal pill mills are few and far between these days.
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dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:31:58 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609579 Reply
>>609577

I just meant it in the sense that their primary purpose is being an controlled substance ATM machine with a side order of weird stuff like nerve shock implants and a bunch of other pain killing methods. My psych is basically a pill mill in disguise, as I get 90x80mg Subutex and 60 or 90 (was 90 this month but we will see long term) 30mg Adderall IR each and every month.

Personally I consider my psych a pill mill because simply saying "I used to be scripted Adderall," even while providing absolutely zero evidence, was enough to start s permanent script of it. As for the whopping 24mg of Subutex per day, all I needed was two positive piss tests that supposedly showed the highest ever urine opioid concentration that said suboxone psych doc has ever encountered in his 20+ years of practice. I wouldn't be surprised if I could push him for even 32mg of subutex/day if I fed him some bullshit about how my 1 year "sobriety" date is coming up soon and cravings are flaring up bad for the first time in several months.

Sorry I confused the idea of a pill mill being a doctor who scripts controlled shit 24/7 for a living in a legitimate and government supervised way, and the definition of pill mills being more of the situation I listed above with my current psych.

Hell, I would be getting 90mg Dexedrine IR/day instead if I wasn't paying out of pocket with no insurance, and said psych doc even once wrote me a script for actual Desoxyn, which is medical methamphetamine. Apart from the absurd price, the only reason why I never actually got it was absolutely no pharmacy within 20min drive was either able to actually order it and get it in stock in a reasonable time, or even willing to fill the script in the first place seeing as my state's script database shows them I'm on near-max daily dosage of Subutex and a lot of other semi-good stuff.
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Charles Shakegold - Sun, 18 Aug 2019 20:21:10 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609619 Reply
>>609579
>or even willing to fill the script in the first place

I hate when your pharmacy thinks they know better than your doctor.

Fresh Pods

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- Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:24:07 EST Qas/wbXX No.608257
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I took a bunch of pap somni poppy pods, fresh and bleeding latex, from a public park's garden. What should I do with them?
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Thomas Gennerwick - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 22:48:05 EST 6YEguU42 No.609583 Reply
>>609580
Idk anyone from the states or Canada unfortunately and I feel uneasy about making an internet friend to send them due to the nature of what I'm attempting. But yeah if anyone with UK seeds can try this out that would be awesome!
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:33:12 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609592 Reply
>>609554
Yes, if you just cut the stem and let it dry out then you get the same amount as doing what I said here: >>609520 (actually you are likely to get a little bit more out of just cutting fresh pods and drying them but only very slightly) but you will only have pods instead of having dried pods, latex, and seeds to either use, grow, or trade for other seeds and things which is what I do with seeds and how I've gotten most of my active plants and prints.

>>609532
If you are picking poppies from a moderately visible area or something like that then absolutely, yes, that is the best method.

I grow a lot of active plants (some of which are illegal) and fungi as you can see from my post here: >>608855 as well as a large garden and non-active plants and live in the middle of nowhere with a large amount of land so, for me, I'm not really worried about the police as if they show up and are where they can actually see the poppies growing or being prepared I'm already majorly fucked.

I honestly don't think its a ton of risk for home growers whether indoors or out as long as you take proper precautions and I would personally rather have them all separate than just the dried pods/stems/seeds/latex all together.
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:45:48 EST 7Y8izlLY No.609593 Reply
>>609590
They are easy to find if you have a botanical interest in them. Just make sure you get P. Som. although I grow Cali poppies as well for a couple tinctures. My recommendations are here: >>608817

Also, I am unsure how they will do under what is essential a closed humidity dome. IME growing medium and conditions, especially early on, are quite important.

Shooting first time

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:47:30 EST nobweYpQ No.609374
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Just got some 30 gauge syringes and am getting an 8 ball of h on Thursday. I need instructions, this is happening so don't talk me out of it. How do I use filters? How do I dose out my shot? These are two of the main questions. Thanks
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Dbag McGee 1 - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:54:24 EST osznr6gK No.609488 Reply
>>609374
Dont do it, I promise you it is not going to end well. If you already somehow have a grasp on your addiction and can use only a couple times a week (I've been an addict for over 10 years and never met someone able to do that after regular use) I promise that's going to change if you start shooting and you will probanly.never go back to not shooting. If there is no changing your mind then goodluck but you're making a huge mistake.
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dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 23:17:19 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609589 Reply
>>609588

and if it isn't obvious, replace the word circlejerk with r3ddit (3=e)

nb

Hydrocodone

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:40:43 EST tCfXoHus No.609497
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opi noob here how many mg for a good and safe first time
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Dextrolord - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:10:59 EST t9+obISS No.609541 Reply
>>609497
How much do u have on hand?

I personally agree with Katz that u should take 5mg to taste test it so to speak. Lots of people really like hydrocodone but too much will make u nauseous. Be careful of how much acetaminophen you're taking with it if they r ur standard hydro 5/325 pills.

But ya take 5mg see what it does, you should feel a slight buzz if ur not oversensitive or allergic, and then u can take more to find out ur ideal dose. You can always take more but never less ya know?

I personally fall into the 5ish% that doesn't metabolize hydro correctly so it really doesn't do Jack shit for me. Seriously even before I fucked up my tolerance with harder stuff I was taking 40mg or more just to get a slight high off em. Point is everyone is different
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Nigel Sadgemotch - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:10:53 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609568 Reply
>>609497
how hard is it to take one pill and if you dont feel the desired results to take more?
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dr. m - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 21:29:09 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609569 Reply
>>609497

Take at least 10mg. Honestly for a good time I'd suggest taking 15mg. Don't take more than 20mg your first time. Just simply swallow the pills. 4 or less tablets is only around 1000-1300mg of tylenol, so there's no need to extract it.

Enjoy OP!

Nucynta (tapentadol hcl)

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!KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:37:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609073
File: 5.jpg -(80085B / 78.21KB, 666x69) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Nucynta (tapentadol hcl)
Anyone ever try this opioid? I was just prescribed instant release 50mg Nucynta (tapentadol hcl) today after having a less than ideal few months being on tramadol. Because I have multiple benzo and z-drug prescriptions, doctors are weary to prescribe any classical opiates for my chronic back pain.

The little research I have done indicates the drug is stronger than tramadol and has much less of an effect on serotonin, but was also created by the Ultram (tramadol) manufacturer. Multiple physicians and both pharmacists I spoke with talked to me about not combining the drug with tramadol hcl, which I still have a script of, and being careful with the drug and benzos. Literally, three fucking health professionals explained the increased chance of death via respiratory failure.

The drug has only been on the market since around 2008, so my pain doc fucked me. No generics exist yet as the patent is still active. Shit was $85 for 20 x 50mg tablets even with commercial insurance.
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:51:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609492 Reply
>>609241
My thoughts exactly. I do not see any reason to not at least try a new opioid—unless someone is trying to stay sober or is allergic.

>>609300
I meant fucking up in terms of the cost of my prescription. I found out a couple of days later I could pick up a coupon, so I assume my doctor is getting a kick back from the drug company, to get each script for only $20.

>You shouldn't mix downers
I've been on benzos for just over 7 years now and I think I've had a muscle relaxer script for around 6 years. And, I've had scripts on/off for opiates since I was a young child (mostly codeine in the winter and hydrocodone every year or so for dental shit or injuries from skateboarding).

>Definitely interested in Tapentadol feedback though!
I cannot lie, the drug is a lot more impressive than I anticipated. However, staggering the drug is pointless (unlike tramadol). Tapentadol feels kind of like an odd mix of hydrocodone and tramadol. The drug is markedly less stimulating than tramadol and has some warmth associated with the initial come up. I would say in terms of an opioid that is so similar to tramadol, tapentadol feels more like a classical opiate with a tad bit more stimulation than oxycodone. However, the drug is still weaker than morphine so there's that.

>>609354
How long have you been on the 50mg ERs? When I get my next script for IR tapentadol I would like to potentially increase the dosage to 100mg tablets. Too, I eventually need to transition to morphine IR or ER if not hydrocodone. Something stronger is necessary as my tolerance to tapentadol hcl is already noticeable after only taking the drug 4-5 days of the last week. Typically tolerance does not increase so quickly for me.

Snorting oxycodone

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- Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:48:09 EST 7v2ps8UP No.609491
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So I've got some leftover oxycodone (instant release)from my kidney stones, 10mg each instant release. Would crushing em up and snorting em do anything better rather than just swallowing the whole pill?
Pic unrelated
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Dextrolord - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:16:15 EST t9+obISS No.609542 Reply
>>609491
My experience with oxy is oral is a better ride, not as high of a peak but smoother come up and comedown. Snorting the same amount will get me slightly higher but last maybe 50-75% as long

My personal regimen with oxy was take a large dose oral and then snort a medium or heavy dose at the same time. I'd be speaking of the snortskies when the oral started hitting and then be still peaking off the oral when the sniff started wearing off.

Be careful, know ur body, don't take too much
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Roxy One - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:01:51 EST gybLNlw0 No.609544 Reply
>>609491
I sometimes insuf maybe 1/4-1/2 of a 10mg oxy if I have a bunch (at least 4) just for the ritual and insta hit. You snort all of it, it's just a waste lasts for like 30min-hr as oppose to 4-6hr if ya just swallow them. Al itt are right.
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Archie Gaggleway - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:10:07 EST SnO3ZRr8 No.609546 Reply
>Pic unrelated
you sure about that?

Feeling Asian while on Opi

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- Tue, 13 Aug 2019 20:19:55 EST nS942RSB No.609372
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Caucasian ex-user here. Did you ever feel 'asian' while doing classic opis? Like some kind of chinaman?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:33:06 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609490 Reply
>>609372
Eh, I guess when I had easy access to opium in high school. But uh, nah. I am Hispanic and cannot say I have ever truly felt "Asian" when using /opi/. Maybe there needs to be some additional research on classical opiates, even opium in specific, and perceptions of self.

>Chinaman
Incoming It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia clip: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3c25ba04-cd01-4e65-b28e-2c5eb9ec8c6a
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Shitting Cossleway - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:02:17 EST cbXJ46oj No.609512 Reply
>>609372
I was sure this was going to be about how squinty your eyes get when you're in that half-awake semi-nod dream state. Shows what I know

Urinary Retention

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- Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:05:24 EST RRzRTB4Z No.608403
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Fuck /opi/ after making maybe 20g of dried pods as tea I can't pee anymore, I can't seem to relax the muscle.

What causes this? Like in which receptors cause what and how?

What do you do to counteract this? It really spoils the high for me.

Happy nodders
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:28:27 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609489 Reply
At least in my experience, various opioids have differing degrees of impacting urinary retention. For me, kratom and prolonged usage of tramadol are pretty gnarly for urinary retention. I mean, shit, I would wait 10+ minutes trying to piss with zero luck. Historically, I have had zero issues with hydrocodone, codeine, and morphine in short- and long-term periods of usage (e.g. prescriptions for weeks or months of daily usage). Oxymorphone has never given me trouble, but higher dosages of oxycodone (e.g. 30mg instead of a typical 10mg dosage) have caused me some problems with pissing. Tapentadol has given me mild urinary retention problems, but it is negligible.

>What causes this?
I would assume because of the effect of /opi/ causing intestinal problems (i.e. constipation) that bladder problems are rather common as well based on how they affect the body.

>What do you do to counteract this?
Just stand and wait or sit if I get tired of standing. Run some water in the sink. Try to relax. Extra stress likely is not going to help.

>>609429
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Lydia Himmlewirk - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:50:38 EST 7fJj6h3O No.609498 Reply
>>609489

Morphine is actually one of the more urinary retentive opiates, its just you took low doses
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:15:17 EST 56TOD6Vq No.609500 Reply
>>609498
I would definitely say this is case. The most morphine IR I have taken was 45mg along with benzos, which in the big scheme of opiates is not a high dosage. However, I noticed an incredibly uncomfortable level of being unable to piss about 50% of the time I combined morphine IR and hydrocodone with dosages ranging from 15mg morphine + 5mg hydrocodone up to 30mg morphine + 20mg hydrocodone.

Expired fentanyl

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- Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:32:49 EST ATf1DnkU No.609450
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I've been wanting to try fentanyl for a while mostly because of its notoriety, but where I live fentanyl is rare. There are shit pills of oxy, xanax, you name it that have fentanyl in them, but fentanyl as fentanyl is rare. After a long search I managed to find a source: a super shady junkie dude with Abstral 200ug pills. I was sceptical, but the packages were intact and the transaction was smooth.

I went home and split the pill into quarters since according to Psychonautwiki and Tripsit.me 200ug would kill a opiate naive person twice or thrice. I put a quarter piece under my tongue and let it dissolve completely. Then I swished saliva around for a minute and swallowed. I waited for half an hour, but nothing happened. Then I waited for another half an hour, crushed a second quarter and insufflated it. Nothing happened.

I started to get really sceptical and checked the packaging. "Abstral (R) 200 ug Sublingualtablette Kyowa Kirin Ltd" - seems right. But wait... "ExP: 02 - 2019." It's August now. The pill expired six months ago. Can fentanyl go bad in such a relatively short time? I've had codeine pills from the last decade working just fine. Apparently that doesn't apply to fentanyl.

Did I do something wrong or did I just get ripped off?
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dr. m - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:17:13 EST 1qKXc0ke No.609469 Reply
>>609450

200ug of pure fent isnt killing anyone on it's own OP. I think you're thinking of 2mg, of which 2mg of fentanyl hcl supposedly will kill roughly 50% of the entire population of opioid naive volunteers. Though it's more like 2.5mg for the USA, since we're statistically more obese than almost all of the world.

OP I'm not sure if that magic 2mg amount that's repeated ad nauseam is 2mg used orally, sublingually, transdermal, nasaly, or via IV.

All I can say is that if you have real properly dosed fentanyl, you should either snort it (preferably in a small solution filtered by a a Q-tip, a cigarette filter, or something similar to remove most of the binders that get in the way of absorbing fentanyl nasally or rectally) via solution, boof/plug it, IV it, or simply just give it to someone else who is willing to consume it one of those three ways.

Nasal efficiency for fentanyl is amazingly high, maybe like 80-90% last time I checked (the number that comes to mind for me is 89% BA). There also isn't as much of a rush from injection like real heroin has. Assuming 89% efficiency for nasal is true, then crudely filter it using some cotton (get the cotton wet first so it doesnt steal any active goodies), "snort" the very small volume solution (like 0.25-1ml) split between both nostrils, and then either sublingual the without filler residue, or add some water to the container holding the leftover filler residue, swirl it around, and swallow it.
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Killington - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:57:17 EST SrFvgnZz No.609485 Reply
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>>609450
What everyone has said in this thread is pretty much good advice. As someone who used cut fent powder (marketed as fent) i only ever snorted it and would never think of eating it or holdjng the nasty shit under my tongue. If yiu snort it you should feel it hit within no more than 5 minutes.

Also psychonaut is a great resource but they are rather conservative in their dosages, presumabky for safety
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Alice Sullypure - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:58:21 EST B0nXruVd No.609493 Reply
>>609485
You're right. I managed to get a good nod going by following this advice:

>All I can say is that if you have real properly dosed fentanyl, you should either snort it (preferably in a small solution filtered by a a Q-tip, a cigarette filter, or something similar to remove most of the binders that get in the way of absorbing fentanyl nasally or rectally) - -

Thanks everyone. nb

Poppy Seed Tea recipes

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Brew it up
Add cream and sugar
Dump a small bottle of marichino cherries syrup and all in there
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DTMO - Thu, 15 Aug 2019 23:40:03 EST WPH+dayt No.609473 Reply
>>609442
Daily?

...is it possible you were tubby with no testosterone before you started? Just asking. If not then call it luck i guess.
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Wesley Grimwill - Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:52:41 EST LpEYRcXR No.609483 Reply
>>609442
I've lost a lot of weight (which for me, is annoying, as it's really hard to gain and/or keep weight no matter my situation) since using seeds (daily for a few years now)
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Shitting Cossleway - Sat, 17 Aug 2019 19:28:56 EST cbXJ46oj No.609559 Reply
>>609442
I think opiate addiction in general causes weight loss (spending money on drugs instead of food, forgetting to eat cause the drugs dulled your hunger, forgetting to eat because you passed out for 12 hours straight, ect)

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