So this Kratom eh? View Thread Reply Hide Jack Povingtag - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:02:52 EST BePFZIz6 No.617680 File: 1603065772124.png -(68449B / 66.84KB, 600x417) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I'm oldfag (33)... I have a younger Cousin (19) who drinks Kratom coffee like its going out of style and shows signs of habituation; I tried it a few times throughout the years and I was never an opioid. In fact I would argue Kratom was a shitty opioid and the only real good one was morphine... I mean really fucking good. I could see opiates being really useful when I'm an even older fag.... ok that being said has anyone seen Kratom addiction warp into general Noroc-oxy addiction? I'm not buzz killing or shit I was 19 once but I wouldn't wish a Herion addiction on my worst enemy... Bt Dubs I was here before Kirtaner ruined his asshole.... like the beginning the Alpha. 8 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Reuben Grandwater - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:07:09 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617726 Reply >>617722If you don't plan on getting high everyday you can try the OPMS Gold, they are expensive but once a weekend all the capsules in a pack with fucking rock you. >> Reuben Grandwater - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:08:15 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617727 Reply >>617721Well put nb >> Phyllis Fazzlespear - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:13:15 EST +rJY0K/n No.617729 Reply >>617722>kratom gets boring fastI agree yet these are subjective views. I get where you are coming from with the coffee analogy but let’s not downplay the opiate properties of the plant or how some struggle with it. Most people using it aren’t just chewing leaves or using minor doses for stimulation. It’s people using for pain/WD/and some even using it for a high. You can see plenty of people on this board using it for such reasons. It is a wonderful tool to help people especially in terms of getting off harder drugs but there are hundreds of stories of people who have gone through hell trying to quit it. It’s mostly from people who’ve never messed with harder opiates but still opiate WD is a bitch and having a physical dependence to it is very different from having one to caffeine.Don’t get me wrong it’s a great plant and many people have used it to clean up from even fentanyl in some cases but there is definitely cause for concern in opiate naive users especially if they are young and in that experimenting phase. And part of how tolerance rises quick with it and you can’t really get much passed a buzz with semi frequent use (as you say gets boring fast) has led people to seek out stronger opiates chasing that euphoria.As for OPs cousin it’s hard to say. Everyone is different with it and I don’t have experience with kratom coffee. May just be using it for energy after all or may be using the coffee mindset to downplay it being an opiate. It depends how frequent he uses it and how much kratom he is using when he does so. If he’s doing it for the opiate effects it’s may end up being a gateway like drug to wanting to other opiates.Also In agree with the user above it is more akin to weed than coffee. People are using it for a high most of the time. Getting the raw leaf and chewing that would be more like coffee I suppose but that’s not what’s going on here. OP I would recommend you go over to red.dit and go to the kratom and quittingkratom sub. You’ll see there’s a bit of contrast between the two. There’s so many people who downplay it saying it’s absolutely non addictive then you will find horror stories of people who undermined it and had issues quitting. Again before anyone jumps on me it’s usually opiate naive people who seem to fall into that trap and personally I find it pretty easy to stop but I can’t discredit others troubled experiences with it.At the end of the day it is a drug and you should respect it. After visiting the mentioned sub out of curiosity to see if people really did struggle with it I found out to my surprise there are a lot of these “horror story” reports and it mostly came from people who had no prior history with opiates and naively jumped head first into kratom thinking they couldn’t get addicted or become physically dependent in some way. Seriously OP you should take a visit over there not just for more accounts of varying experiences from opiate naive users but also because this board is generally full of people who’ve been using harder opiates from some time and kratom was not the first experience for a lot of us. Over there I see a lot more people who never used opiates but kratom and that seems more relatable for what your cousin is going through.
>> Reuben Grandwater - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:07:09 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617726 Reply >>617722If you don't plan on getting high everyday you can try the OPMS Gold, they are expensive but once a weekend all the capsules in a pack with fucking rock you.
>> Phyllis Fazzlespear - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:13:15 EST +rJY0K/n No.617729 Reply >>617722>kratom gets boring fastI agree yet these are subjective views. I get where you are coming from with the coffee analogy but let’s not downplay the opiate properties of the plant or how some struggle with it. Most people using it aren’t just chewing leaves or using minor doses for stimulation. It’s people using for pain/WD/and some even using it for a high. You can see plenty of people on this board using it for such reasons. It is a wonderful tool to help people especially in terms of getting off harder drugs but there are hundreds of stories of people who have gone through hell trying to quit it. It’s mostly from people who’ve never messed with harder opiates but still opiate WD is a bitch and having a physical dependence to it is very different from having one to caffeine.Don’t get me wrong it’s a great plant and many people have used it to clean up from even fentanyl in some cases but there is definitely cause for concern in opiate naive users especially if they are young and in that experimenting phase. And part of how tolerance rises quick with it and you can’t really get much passed a buzz with semi frequent use (as you say gets boring fast) has led people to seek out stronger opiates chasing that euphoria.As for OPs cousin it’s hard to say. Everyone is different with it and I don’t have experience with kratom coffee. May just be using it for energy after all or may be using the coffee mindset to downplay it being an opiate. It depends how frequent he uses it and how much kratom he is using when he does so. If he’s doing it for the opiate effects it’s may end up being a gateway like drug to wanting to other opiates.Also In agree with the user above it is more akin to weed than coffee. People are using it for a high most of the time. Getting the raw leaf and chewing that would be more like coffee I suppose but that’s not what’s going on here. OP I would recommend you go over to red.dit and go to the kratom and quittingkratom sub. You’ll see there’s a bit of contrast between the two. There’s so many people who downplay it saying it’s absolutely non addictive then you will find horror stories of people who undermined it and had issues quitting. Again before anyone jumps on me it’s usually opiate naive people who seem to fall into that trap and personally I find it pretty easy to stop but I can’t discredit others troubled experiences with it.At the end of the day it is a drug and you should respect it. After visiting the mentioned sub out of curiosity to see if people really did struggle with it I found out to my surprise there are a lot of these “horror story” reports and it mostly came from people who had no prior history with opiates and naively jumped head first into kratom thinking they couldn’t get addicted or become physically dependent in some way. Seriously OP you should take a visit over there not just for more accounts of varying experiences from opiate naive users but also because this board is generally full of people who’ve been using harder opiates from some time and kratom was not the first experience for a lot of us. Over there I see a lot more people who never used opiates but kratom and that seems more relatable for what your cousin is going through.
Missed Shots/Blood In Rig View Thread Reply Hide Lydia Pindlemog - Mon, 13 Jul 2020 13:19:39 EST 8w0ynIS7 No.616174 File: 1594660779320.jpg -(2750713B / 2.62MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I’ve looked around and even called my doctor but he’s busy, what’s the deal with injecting your own blood? I know it’s bad to shoot old/coagulated blood but what’s the deal with leaving it in a rig for an hour and half, running it through a filter to get any clotted blood out, and shooting it like that? I know hep c is a risk but I’ve already got that so if there’s no risk of cotton fever/other blood problems it’ll be fine.....right?So what’s the deal? Pic related, the shot in question. 10 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Molly Clurringdeg - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:28:14 EST M6+yoS00 No.617296 Reply >>617295Either bin or plug it after 1 hour (3 if you have to ... will always be mostly aafe to plug and always safe to bin) >> m - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:37:34 EST dAXTapHC No.617715 Reply >>616174You cant get Hep C from shooting up your own blood, period. You get it from reusing someone else's needles, the cross-contamination of equipment sharing, or rarely from vigorous unprotected sex (particularly receptive anal sex).The answer to blood that's more than like ~30+ minutes old (or when it started to coagulate, maybe sooner) is to always, always plug it. If you have 0.22ug filters you could maybe risk re-IVing if its like <1-1.5hr old, but honestly man why take the risk. Plugging will be like ~50-60% as efficient as your normal IV. Yeah it sucks you wasted some of it, but cut your losses and just accept half credit and more on. It's this corner cutting junkie bullshit that ends up getting people fucking killed. >> m - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:41:56 EST dAXTapHC No.617716 Reply >>617715Also, you can still get cotton fever from it. You dont actually need to use cotton to get cotton fever. The term comes from getting instant bacterial poisoning/possibly toxic byproducts of fungi or bacteria already in the cotton before you use it, as it's an organic substance. This is why always using sterilized cotton (at the least, preferably 0.22ug micron filters) is important. Go on amaz0n and buy some 0.22ug filters bro. You'll save more on dope than they cost, as you'll stop losing product in the cottons.Also, NEVER EVER IV a cotton wash ever fucking again. I dont care if you've done it XYZ # of times and never had a problem. If you want to get product out of a cotton, do a cotton wash and then plug it. If you must IV cotton washes, use a 0.22ug filter.
>> Molly Clurringdeg - Wed, 23 Sep 2020 19:28:14 EST M6+yoS00 No.617296 Reply >>617295Either bin or plug it after 1 hour (3 if you have to ... will always be mostly aafe to plug and always safe to bin)
>> m - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:37:34 EST dAXTapHC No.617715 Reply >>616174You cant get Hep C from shooting up your own blood, period. You get it from reusing someone else's needles, the cross-contamination of equipment sharing, or rarely from vigorous unprotected sex (particularly receptive anal sex).The answer to blood that's more than like ~30+ minutes old (or when it started to coagulate, maybe sooner) is to always, always plug it. If you have 0.22ug filters you could maybe risk re-IVing if its like <1-1.5hr old, but honestly man why take the risk. Plugging will be like ~50-60% as efficient as your normal IV. Yeah it sucks you wasted some of it, but cut your losses and just accept half credit and more on. It's this corner cutting junkie bullshit that ends up getting people fucking killed.
>> m - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:41:56 EST dAXTapHC No.617716 Reply >>617715Also, you can still get cotton fever from it. You dont actually need to use cotton to get cotton fever. The term comes from getting instant bacterial poisoning/possibly toxic byproducts of fungi or bacteria already in the cotton before you use it, as it's an organic substance. This is why always using sterilized cotton (at the least, preferably 0.22ug micron filters) is important. Go on amaz0n and buy some 0.22ug filters bro. You'll save more on dope than they cost, as you'll stop losing product in the cottons.Also, NEVER EVER IV a cotton wash ever fucking again. I dont care if you've done it XYZ # of times and never had a problem. If you want to get product out of a cotton, do a cotton wash and then plug it. If you must IV cotton washes, use a 0.22ug filter.
First timer View Thread Reply Hide George Mollerchure - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:47:38 EST z0rKjufd No.617669 File: 1603036058410.jpg -(582274B / 568.63KB, 1449x1444) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. /opi/For years I have been curious to trying good opiates (only experiences were "opium" and CWE codeine). I know it's borderline retarded to want to try Heroin, but here I am. I got a baggie for free and my plan was to try it once, experience the "euphoria' and then never again.So I took a pinhead size and smoked it off foil, which made me buzzed but also slightly nauseous. After that feeling went away I snorted a small line (crushed about a 1.5 pinhead size) and snorted it and then it hit me hard, I fled to the couch where I spent the next hours falling asleep and trying to stay awake. After that I started feeling super bad, vomitting for hours, felt like absolute shit for the biggest part of the night untill I snorted some coke to make me feel better..now I'm wondering why this was such a huge dissapointment for me. I really wanted to know what that 'super intense euphoria' is what everyone was talking about. I tried around 30 different substances and this was the 'pinnacle' of my quest so to speak so I'm really bugged as to why this was such a shitty experience overall. I don't really often experience euphoria when ingesting drugs (not even while using cocaine while everyone else is having fun and feeling euphoric from the same flakes). Could it be because I smoke multiple grams of cannabis a day? It's in western europe so fentanyl seems unlikely, but I'm really puzzled. I'm not planning to tell anyone in real life and don't know any heroin users to ask anyway.PS: I threw the rest of the bag away. I'm not planning on using again, it's just that I'm severly dissapointed in the experience and want to know what I did wrong 9 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Barnaby Degglewill - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:07:28 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617699 Reply >>617698The 4 ive coped in my area was always subpar, you can tell by the reactive how diluted it actually was, compared to 3. >> Hedda Hackleham - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:20:38 EST uGIYfkHL No.617700 Reply >>617669also because hes tolerance is very lowim sure he was super nauseous and puking alotbecause of that he didnt really enjoy understood H at first i had this too cause my tolerance was very low to opii got very super nauseous sick and was puking alot and it destroys the high also it makes u super nod so u battle to just stay awake >> Augustus Gecklebog - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:52:53 EST 6yXhIOaR No.617735 Reply 1603241573386.jpg -(99804B / 97.46KB, 1000x668) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. sorry if this is bad form, I wouldn't know where else to ask. what's a lethal dose for no tolerance? 0.6-0.7g? full g? looking for reliability
>> Barnaby Degglewill - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:07:28 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617699 Reply >>617698The 4 ive coped in my area was always subpar, you can tell by the reactive how diluted it actually was, compared to 3.
>> Hedda Hackleham - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:20:38 EST uGIYfkHL No.617700 Reply >>617669also because hes tolerance is very lowim sure he was super nauseous and puking alotbecause of that he didnt really enjoy understood H at first i had this too cause my tolerance was very low to opii got very super nauseous sick and was puking alot and it destroys the high also it makes u super nod so u battle to just stay awake
>> Augustus Gecklebog - Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:52:53 EST 6yXhIOaR No.617735 Reply 1603241573386.jpg -(99804B / 97.46KB, 1000x668) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. sorry if this is bad form, I wouldn't know where else to ask. what's a lethal dose for no tolerance? 0.6-0.7g? full g? looking for reliability
druhgs View Thread Reply Hide Martha Pobberlure - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 04:02:03 EST l6hKUPFI No.617654 File: 1603008123107.png -(277776B / 271.27KB, 640x360) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. All i doo it shewt yairowean and phentuhnahl
Quick question View Thread Reply Hide Emma Greenford - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 04:22:29 EST RvCd0d4X No.617634 File: 1602922949177.jpg -(46640B / 45.55KB, 554x554) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is suboxone stronger when put between the gums and cheek (buccal) as opposed to beneath the tongue (sublingual). Wiki says it’s twice as strong between the gums. Is that true? >> Simon Nattingfoot - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:13 EST a18fTvuI No.617651 Reply >>617634ive been on subs for a while..and have tried everything to get something out of it..i get the pills and i mostly snort them..but it really is trying to get high chocolate or something..it does help me sleep but am still unable to crack the code of how to get high
>> Simon Nattingfoot - Sun, 18 Oct 2020 00:16:13 EST a18fTvuI No.617651 Reply >>617634ive been on subs for a while..and have tried everything to get something out of it..i get the pills and i mostly snort them..but it really is trying to get high chocolate or something..it does help me sleep but am still unable to crack the code of how to get high
Lucid Dreaming View Thread Reply Hide Hedda Dubblewater - Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:06:21 EST QfB53hD5 No.616691 File: 1597035981049.png -(1013294B / 989.54KB, 1440x1022) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Ugh, I've started using h more frequently for the sole side effect of lucid dreaming.Could never lucid dream before, despite years of tryi g, and I really don't like the nausea or itchiness that comes with using opiates, but holy shit, this makes it Easy ModeMy life is particularly trash right now and the ability to enter a dream world where I make the rules is... Insane. THAT is addictive. I can cuddle and hold the person I love and can never be with, I can have the perfect body, time feels infinite, I feel happy there. When I say using, Im talking about a few mg sniffed à couple days a week, if that, before bed on an empty stomach, no fent. I know this is a slippery slope. I'm still fairly sure I can manage seeing as I dislike the sides, never feel rested or that I actually slept, and this isn't really the 'traditional' use for escape. Plus I'm terrified of being fented to death and I only have so much of this clean powder remaining.I don't know where I was going with this. Anyone else get this lucid dreaming ability?? 8 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Jerry Seinfag - Fri, 28 Aug 2020 07:18:04 EST eqBSvUUR No.616988 Reply >>616974Ok you got me here, i think i may of gotten confused with how opis can lower pain tolerance (that is right rite?) than stunting wound healing. I swear like the other guy here that i came across info on wound healing and opis but i must be wrong cause im not finding much about it on google. Sorry bout dat >> Henry Cronkinhood - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:22:18 EST P7c4MCXo No.617642 Reply >>616963bro my ex was prescribed trazodone, and like 150mg would knock me out harder than 1 or 2 bars and give me just intense vivid dreams. I used to be super into lucid dreaming when I was a kid and before I did drugs (and I could actually do it every once in a while) and yea opiates aren't bad for dreams, but there are some better, cheaper, easier to obtain sleep aids that are basically dreams in a pill from my experience >> Polly Publingkeck - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:54:13 EST ZWuVrCeg No.617643 Reply >>616988>Chronic use of opiates has long been associated with lower levels of androgens, hypogonadism, adrenal dysfunction, pituitary dysfunction, reduced bone mineral density, and growth-hormone abnormalities. In addition, some studies suggest abnormalities in glucose and lipid metabolism among opiate users. You're both coping at this point
>> Jerry Seinfag - Fri, 28 Aug 2020 07:18:04 EST eqBSvUUR No.616988 Reply >>616974Ok you got me here, i think i may of gotten confused with how opis can lower pain tolerance (that is right rite?) than stunting wound healing. I swear like the other guy here that i came across info on wound healing and opis but i must be wrong cause im not finding much about it on google. Sorry bout dat
>> Henry Cronkinhood - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:22:18 EST P7c4MCXo No.617642 Reply >>616963bro my ex was prescribed trazodone, and like 150mg would knock me out harder than 1 or 2 bars and give me just intense vivid dreams. I used to be super into lucid dreaming when I was a kid and before I did drugs (and I could actually do it every once in a while) and yea opiates aren't bad for dreams, but there are some better, cheaper, easier to obtain sleep aids that are basically dreams in a pill from my experience
>> Polly Publingkeck - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:54:13 EST ZWuVrCeg No.617643 Reply >>616988>Chronic use of opiates has long been associated with lower levels of androgens, hypogonadism, adrenal dysfunction, pituitary dysfunction, reduced bone mineral density, and growth-hormone abnormalities. In addition, some studies suggest abnormalities in glucose and lipid metabolism among opiate users. You're both coping at this point
hycodan all good? View Thread Reply Hide dog dude - Tue, 29 Sep 2020 17:15:01 EST lUdCmj/K No.617360 File: 1601414101227.jpg -(275518B / 269.06KB, 1582x2109) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Yo my dog's all good now can I polish off his meds? It says "SP: Canine" on one part of it 3 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Walter Chankintadging - Fri, 02 Oct 2020 17:48:18 EST +rJY0K/n No.617401 Reply >>617371It’s listed as a side effect not sure if it’s just because of the hydrocodone but probably so. I know it’s much more difficult for me to pee when I take benz with opis Rather than straight opis though that’s a bit different. >> Johhny Buttafuoco - Mon, 05 Oct 2020 12:14:17 EST d2Eo8cWM No.617441 Reply >>617401i was wondering more about the del its compounded with. >> m - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:33:14 EST dAXTapHC No.617632 Reply >>617369Just to clarify, I recommended considering staggering these types of hydrocodne combination formulations primarily because other deliriants pharmacologically similar to homatropine have somewhat short half-lives/durations of action (talking like <1-2hr HL or something). So the mindset was to do what you can within reason to allow as much homatropine to leave your body between staggered doses, so that the actual peak plasma level of the drug at any one time is as low as possible whilst still being dosed closely enough together that the hydro high isn't subjectively reduced "too" much.However, now that I look, at least on the wiki page its HL in humans or other animals isn't even listed. For all I know it could last hours and hours, so staggering would be pretty much useless. I'd have to look for research papers, but honestly I can't be bothered as I doubt I'll ever run into this specific formulation ever again IRL.Back when I had red hydro syrup one time in undergrad (had atropine or something in it, NOT CPM like tussionex does), at least at doses of like 40 or 50mg hydro or less taken more than 3-5+ days apart, I couldn't really notice much different than typical hydro+APAP. It worked fine, but I only drank like 25% of the bottle myself. It quickly became clear that liquid hydro is even more coveted than real "lean," so I found buyers for something silly like $2 or $4/mg of hydro.
>> Walter Chankintadging - Fri, 02 Oct 2020 17:48:18 EST +rJY0K/n No.617401 Reply >>617371It’s listed as a side effect not sure if it’s just because of the hydrocodone but probably so. I know it’s much more difficult for me to pee when I take benz with opis Rather than straight opis though that’s a bit different.
>> Johhny Buttafuoco - Mon, 05 Oct 2020 12:14:17 EST d2Eo8cWM No.617441 Reply >>617401i was wondering more about the del its compounded with.
>> m - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 20:33:14 EST dAXTapHC No.617632 Reply >>617369Just to clarify, I recommended considering staggering these types of hydrocodne combination formulations primarily because other deliriants pharmacologically similar to homatropine have somewhat short half-lives/durations of action (talking like <1-2hr HL or something). So the mindset was to do what you can within reason to allow as much homatropine to leave your body between staggered doses, so that the actual peak plasma level of the drug at any one time is as low as possible whilst still being dosed closely enough together that the hydro high isn't subjectively reduced "too" much.However, now that I look, at least on the wiki page its HL in humans or other animals isn't even listed. For all I know it could last hours and hours, so staggering would be pretty much useless. I'd have to look for research papers, but honestly I can't be bothered as I doubt I'll ever run into this specific formulation ever again IRL.Back when I had red hydro syrup one time in undergrad (had atropine or something in it, NOT CPM like tussionex does), at least at doses of like 40 or 50mg hydro or less taken more than 3-5+ days apart, I couldn't really notice much different than typical hydro+APAP. It worked fine, but I only drank like 25% of the bottle myself. It quickly became clear that liquid hydro is even more coveted than real "lean," so I found buyers for something silly like $2 or $4/mg of hydro.
When do physical withdrawal develop? View Thread Reply Hide Beatrice Hammerwill - Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:07:00 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617601 File: 1602706020363.jpg -(43346B / 42.33KB, 385x433) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. I've been using opiates every day for maybe a few months now, but mostly small amounts. I've been snorting some subuxone (lol) big amounts some days, but mostly small amounts as a pain surpressor. One 8mg pill would last me for a week in the beginning, and now I can take the whole thing in a day (buzzed, but not nodding). Will I get physical withdrawals when I stop now? How long did you use continually before you got your first w/d? Are withdrawals connected to tolerance at all? 5 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Zozyman - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:16:49 EST ijHX005W No.617620 Reply >>617610If you're a hard cunt you can do it. Even cold isn't so bad. See, it's not the initial few days of the "worst" or most intence part of it. What will grind you down is the weeks, to months or possibly longer depending on your habits, of waking up clammy in a cold sweat, shacky hands, feeling like you will die, needing to instantly shit, shitting when there's fucking nothing left and you will be doing this for almost all of your day, including vomiting for the first week or so. Then there's the heart going funky, I kept getting shots of adrenaline (or what felt like it) that make my heart feel like it was going to actually explode for a few moments, incredible rage and anger at everything. It's the psychological battle with not only yourself but to keep baring the physical shit too. It will grate you, it will wear you down, but you just gotta use that anger it gives you, get mad and keep yourself off the shit. Kick and scream into a more normal reality. Bruh, I dunno I just smoked a fat joint fulla hash. >> John Crubblemutch - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 02:22:00 EST +rJY0K/n No.617621 Reply >>617620>depending on your habitsRead the OP and his other post. He’s not going to be going through WD for months. He may not even puke from this much. Shits and cold sweats yeah. Seems to be his first opi WD and kinda stupid to use suboxone for a high like this. But I agree he can probably handle it especially if he’s gone through benzo WD but I also don’t know how hardcore that benzo WD he says he tapered through was. >> Shitting Wubbleman - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 06:49:50 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617625 Reply >>617620>>617621Well, two conflicting answers here. I simply started to fill out the space between my tramadol prescriptions with small doses of intranasal buprenorphine as a pain reliever, only taking enough to get high once in a while. That "once in a while" became more frequent, added some morphine pills to the mix, and all of a sudden my tolerance was alarmlingly high since I felt nothing from the tramadols, and I realized that I have been "on the stuff" for a few months without pause. I'm mostly wondering if your current tolerance can foreshadow the coming withdrawals, since my tolerance has never been this high and I've never had withdrawals before.
>> Zozyman - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:16:49 EST ijHX005W No.617620 Reply >>617610If you're a hard cunt you can do it. Even cold isn't so bad. See, it's not the initial few days of the "worst" or most intence part of it. What will grind you down is the weeks, to months or possibly longer depending on your habits, of waking up clammy in a cold sweat, shacky hands, feeling like you will die, needing to instantly shit, shitting when there's fucking nothing left and you will be doing this for almost all of your day, including vomiting for the first week or so. Then there's the heart going funky, I kept getting shots of adrenaline (or what felt like it) that make my heart feel like it was going to actually explode for a few moments, incredible rage and anger at everything. It's the psychological battle with not only yourself but to keep baring the physical shit too. It will grate you, it will wear you down, but you just gotta use that anger it gives you, get mad and keep yourself off the shit. Kick and scream into a more normal reality. Bruh, I dunno I just smoked a fat joint fulla hash.
>> John Crubblemutch - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 02:22:00 EST +rJY0K/n No.617621 Reply >>617620>depending on your habitsRead the OP and his other post. He’s not going to be going through WD for months. He may not even puke from this much. Shits and cold sweats yeah. Seems to be his first opi WD and kinda stupid to use suboxone for a high like this. But I agree he can probably handle it especially if he’s gone through benzo WD but I also don’t know how hardcore that benzo WD he says he tapered through was.
>> Shitting Wubbleman - Fri, 16 Oct 2020 06:49:50 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617625 Reply >>617620>>617621Well, two conflicting answers here. I simply started to fill out the space between my tramadol prescriptions with small doses of intranasal buprenorphine as a pain reliever, only taking enough to get high once in a while. That "once in a while" became more frequent, added some morphine pills to the mix, and all of a sudden my tolerance was alarmlingly high since I felt nothing from the tramadols, and I realized that I have been "on the stuff" for a few months without pause. I'm mostly wondering if your current tolerance can foreshadow the coming withdrawals, since my tolerance has never been this high and I've never had withdrawals before.
Opium View Thread Reply Hide Frederick Cloffingfuck - Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:55:32 EST ISnL+p6c No.617606 File: 1602726932844.jpg -(140883B / 137.58KB, 1400x1400) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. >opium season is comingMy pots are ready to boil feral opium left by Chinese gold miners. >> Hugh Bettingnure - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:09:39 EST bqa06u3/ No.617618 Reply pics or didnt happen >> Charlotte Blackbury - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:10:45 EST 2zpedbaD No.617697 Reply Now that's what I call...~California Dreaming~. Nb.
>> Charlotte Blackbury - Mon, 19 Oct 2020 13:10:45 EST 2zpedbaD No.617697 Reply Now that's what I call...~California Dreaming~. Nb.
Opiates and studying? View Thread Reply Hide Cyril Sebberpire - Wed, 07 Oct 2020 19:08:22 EST iAxgueSR No.617496 File: 1602112102432.jpg -(657573B / 642.16KB, 2728x1535) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Are any of you guys using opiates in college? How does it affect your studying?I use Kratom (partial agonist to the μ-opioid receptor so I guess it counts, nothing compared to real opiates) and it makes me feel happy and content, doesn't really affect my studying though. 7 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Barnaby Duckdock - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 08:07:20 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617593 Reply >>617588Curiosity killed the cat. I did 4 months in a HR career before oxy got the best of me, well, not even the best. >> DTMO - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:07:33 EST s9hkTadO No.617612 Reply >>617496I got distinctions and high distinctions when I was studying pharmacy and also probably at the height of my opiate use. I was also using ritalin but I feel like opiates alone were also beneficial. Dosage is key though. >> Henry Sembleshaw - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:58:08 EST +5kOFfAq No.617633 Reply >>617589man I'm so glad im a chem major. the required humanities courses I had to take were run by chill-ass dudes who would just give you an A for trying. based shit
>> Barnaby Duckdock - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 08:07:20 EST /KRtl8C6 No.617593 Reply >>617588Curiosity killed the cat. I did 4 months in a HR career before oxy got the best of me, well, not even the best.
>> DTMO - Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:07:33 EST s9hkTadO No.617612 Reply >>617496I got distinctions and high distinctions when I was studying pharmacy and also probably at the height of my opiate use. I was also using ritalin but I feel like opiates alone were also beneficial. Dosage is key though.
>> Henry Sembleshaw - Sat, 17 Oct 2020 02:58:08 EST +5kOFfAq No.617633 Reply >>617589man I'm so glad im a chem major. the required humanities courses I had to take were run by chill-ass dudes who would just give you an A for trying. based shit
Most euphoric opiate? View Thread Reply Hide opiumisnice - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 21:35:53 EST 7g2/Aq0f No.617559 File: 1602380153530.png -(20292B / 19.82KB, 300x250) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What is the most euphoric opiate in your opinion fam?codeine is a nice weak one for sure 12 posts and 1 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> m - Mon, 12 Oct 2020 20:30:36 EST dAXTapHC No.617592 Reply >>617559>>617559Probably oxymorphone/acetyloxymorphone/acetylhydromorphone or similar, but I've never had oxymorphone. The best I've had is hydromorphone non-IV, or I guess IV fentanyl/morphine in a hospital (but not really that great in those doses).Snorting just 4-6mg IR hydromorphone was fucking dank cash money when I was only around 15-17 years old with no acute tolerance and almost no permanent tolerance. I didn't even do it "right" either; I just did an initial 2mg followed by 2-4 ~1mg bumps total, one every hour or so. Just laying on my bed watching some garbage television like the Simpsons was amazing.Not to detract from OP's question, but if we're being real, your acute+permanent tolerance and the dose of your opioid is way more important than which opioid you pick, as long as it's a full agonist without weird effects. I had low dose oxycodone or even just hydrocodone experiences that were blissful like out of some fantasy novel, just dosing say 25mg hydro or 20mg oxy IR and cuddling my half naked gf/wife.For some reason, buprenorphine has never worked on me lol. Here's to hoping my tolerance is lower than it used to be. I agree with Thants to the extent that, when you have an existing tolerance, high quality oral opium from any source is really hard to beat (if we're talking non-IV). >> Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:52:39 EST q7LmMWth No.617594 Reply >>617592Wonder what pantopon or omnopon from "morphine syrettes" was like. I assume it's the closest thing to a safe IV opium alternative. Nb4 muh Vice heroin holiday in the chech republic straight up shooting opium goo in ur veins. Like fuck what a dangerous thought for them to put in an addicts mind. >> David Turveystock - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:43:42 EST ISnL+p6c No.617597 Reply >all of those once common opis are now rareOh fug i need to revisit south east asia again
>> m - Mon, 12 Oct 2020 20:30:36 EST dAXTapHC No.617592 Reply >>617559>>617559Probably oxymorphone/acetyloxymorphone/acetylhydromorphone or similar, but I've never had oxymorphone. The best I've had is hydromorphone non-IV, or I guess IV fentanyl/morphine in a hospital (but not really that great in those doses).Snorting just 4-6mg IR hydromorphone was fucking dank cash money when I was only around 15-17 years old with no acute tolerance and almost no permanent tolerance. I didn't even do it "right" either; I just did an initial 2mg followed by 2-4 ~1mg bumps total, one every hour or so. Just laying on my bed watching some garbage television like the Simpsons was amazing.Not to detract from OP's question, but if we're being real, your acute+permanent tolerance and the dose of your opioid is way more important than which opioid you pick, as long as it's a full agonist without weird effects. I had low dose oxycodone or even just hydrocodone experiences that were blissful like out of some fantasy novel, just dosing say 25mg hydro or 20mg oxy IR and cuddling my half naked gf/wife.For some reason, buprenorphine has never worked on me lol. Here's to hoping my tolerance is lower than it used to be. I agree with Thants to the extent that, when you have an existing tolerance, high quality oral opium from any source is really hard to beat (if we're talking non-IV).
>> Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:52:39 EST q7LmMWth No.617594 Reply >>617592Wonder what pantopon or omnopon from "morphine syrettes" was like. I assume it's the closest thing to a safe IV opium alternative. Nb4 muh Vice heroin holiday in the chech republic straight up shooting opium goo in ur veins. Like fuck what a dangerous thought for them to put in an addicts mind.
>> David Turveystock - Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:43:42 EST ISnL+p6c No.617597 Reply >all of those once common opis are now rareOh fug i need to revisit south east asia again
How large is the gap between oxy's and heroin? View Thread Reply Hide Ian Faffinglock - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 19:41:13 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617519 File: 1602200473671.jpg -(105673B / 103.20KB, 960x960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How large is the gap between oxy's and heroin? Is it really "legal heroin" in the sense that it's as strong as heroin, like normies say?When I was cold copping pills today, the guy I eventually got it from asked me "why not just buy a quarter gram of heroin? it's gonna last you way longer for less money". I've been prescribed tramadol, and use oxys/morphine/bupe/methadone on the side but this of course gets very expensive. How far is really the step to H? If I just smoke a few puffs, will it be comparable to how high I get with oxy's? Am I making a huge mistake by buying a tiny amount of H instead of all these different pills next time, or is it actually an economically sound decision? 19 posts and 3 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Barnaby Fummerway - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:12:23 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617569 Reply >>617564>Its mostly a malnutrition/exhaustion issue. Lots of people use meth (and or heroin) and look normal. Well yes, I've been around people who IV'ed amphetamine. They were a fucking mess, utterly demoralized and destroyed people. This further reinforces my theory that IV'ing is the real danger here, amphetamine is harmless if you remember to eat and drink and actually go to bed like normal, if you shoot several grams over the course of 5 days and ignore all normal needs like food and sleep you deteriorate. I can't help but theorize that it's the same with heroin, now that I've smoked and snorted some. >> Hannah Honeyham - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:46:28 EST 3Odxt2Wy No.617571 Reply >>617569smoking heroin or amp is close to that. oral asministration of any substance is the best route for harm reduction. >> Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 17:35:44 EST Cw0BCD0f No.617584 Reply >>617558Nah, the kind of person I'm talking about would have 10< orders and sometimes outright say in their bio that they get a monthly script and thus have a limited volume to sell. Often people will warn that with the darknet you should only go with someone with >100 or >1000 reviews and above a 4.95 score, but this is only really necessary if you're buying an uncontrolled substance like heroin. For pharmaceuticals, you are better off looking for one of these very small vendors with low volume selling their monthly script, because if someone has access to a supply that allows them to have sold thousands of orders in the last few months, they're either counterfeiting the tablets or have a black market connect for cheap Indian pharmaceuticals, or in the best of cases, have a relationship with some kind of crooked pharmacist or tech in Europe. With someone moving such a high volume of product, and having such a tenuous supply, there's always the risk they will start counterfeiting the medication.With a patient, they are usually polite and decent people trying to make some extra money on the side and will just let you know if their script has been limited/cut off. If you are dependent, you are much better off making a regular arrangement with such a person if you can find them.>>617571>>617569When I'm on heroin I spend lengthy periods of time cooking extravagant and healthy meals, because cooking is so enjoyable and I don't mind cleaning afterwards. That whole "bodily degradation from smoking heroin" thing you're on about is a load of shit - the emaciation you see with a street addict is a result of choosing heroin over food with limited funding, not a result of any intrinsic pharmacological action of heroin. What you do or don't do on a substance varies from person to person, like everything. Moreover, the dose makes the poison. Try to chip if possible, and if tolerance begins to develop, respond by lowering your intake. If you start getting withdrawal symptoms during tolerance breaks, you need to stop taking any opioids for a good period of time, 1-2 months, before you will able to chip properly at your old tolerance.
>> Barnaby Fummerway - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:12:23 EST PkmtNo4Z No.617569 Reply >>617564>Its mostly a malnutrition/exhaustion issue. Lots of people use meth (and or heroin) and look normal. Well yes, I've been around people who IV'ed amphetamine. They were a fucking mess, utterly demoralized and destroyed people. This further reinforces my theory that IV'ing is the real danger here, amphetamine is harmless if you remember to eat and drink and actually go to bed like normal, if you shoot several grams over the course of 5 days and ignore all normal needs like food and sleep you deteriorate. I can't help but theorize that it's the same with heroin, now that I've smoked and snorted some.
>> Hannah Honeyham - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:46:28 EST 3Odxt2Wy No.617571 Reply >>617569smoking heroin or amp is close to that. oral asministration of any substance is the best route for harm reduction.
>> Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Sun, 11 Oct 2020 17:35:44 EST Cw0BCD0f No.617584 Reply >>617558Nah, the kind of person I'm talking about would have 10< orders and sometimes outright say in their bio that they get a monthly script and thus have a limited volume to sell. Often people will warn that with the darknet you should only go with someone with >100 or >1000 reviews and above a 4.95 score, but this is only really necessary if you're buying an uncontrolled substance like heroin. For pharmaceuticals, you are better off looking for one of these very small vendors with low volume selling their monthly script, because if someone has access to a supply that allows them to have sold thousands of orders in the last few months, they're either counterfeiting the tablets or have a black market connect for cheap Indian pharmaceuticals, or in the best of cases, have a relationship with some kind of crooked pharmacist or tech in Europe. With someone moving such a high volume of product, and having such a tenuous supply, there's always the risk they will start counterfeiting the medication.With a patient, they are usually polite and decent people trying to make some extra money on the side and will just let you know if their script has been limited/cut off. If you are dependent, you are much better off making a regular arrangement with such a person if you can find them.>>617571>>617569When I'm on heroin I spend lengthy periods of time cooking extravagant and healthy meals, because cooking is so enjoyable and I don't mind cleaning afterwards. That whole "bodily degradation from smoking heroin" thing you're on about is a load of shit - the emaciation you see with a street addict is a result of choosing heroin over food with limited funding, not a result of any intrinsic pharmacological action of heroin. What you do or don't do on a substance varies from person to person, like everything. Moreover, the dose makes the poison. Try to chip if possible, and if tolerance begins to develop, respond by lowering your intake. If you start getting withdrawal symptoms during tolerance breaks, you need to stop taking any opioids for a good period of time, 1-2 months, before you will able to chip properly at your old tolerance.
Will methadone clinics get shut down? View Thread Reply Hide Fuck Gurringcheg - Thu, 12 Mar 2020 21:42:02 EST mKt4Jn2I No.614158 File: 1584063722397.jpg -(129322B / 126.29KB, 1024x641) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Anyone know if methadone clinics are gonna be shutdown in the USA amidst all this panic and shit? Or is it not that serious of a /happening/ and they're government run facilities so they'll be okay? Just ease my mind some, please famalam. 27 posts and 2 images omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Cyril Darthood - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 23:13:43 EST mB57xJrr No.617521 Reply OP here: Only changes really are I get 2 weeks of takehomes now, even though I didn't really earn them I think the clinics and MAT services in general are safe. >> lol - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 23:23:52 EST 4NrNean6 No.617522 Reply >>617521Yeah im still getting takehomes too and was told id keep them but im taking that with a grain of salt. Either way i dont miss going in daily. >> Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:21:06 EST Gzn7mUOX No.617552 Reply Nothing's due to change in canadaland if that provides any contrast... Atleast says my pharmacist.
>> Cyril Darthood - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 23:13:43 EST mB57xJrr No.617521 Reply OP here: Only changes really are I get 2 weeks of takehomes now, even though I didn't really earn them I think the clinics and MAT services in general are safe.
>> lol - Thu, 08 Oct 2020 23:23:52 EST 4NrNean6 No.617522 Reply >>617521Yeah im still getting takehomes too and was told id keep them but im taking that with a grain of salt. Either way i dont miss going in daily.
>> Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 15:21:06 EST Gzn7mUOX No.617552 Reply Nothing's due to change in canadaland if that provides any contrast... Atleast says my pharmacist.
Uk junkies View Thread Reply Hide Charlotte Honeyman - Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:49:10 EST M6+yoS00 No.617345 File: 1601228950262.jpg -(3686531B / 3.52MB, 4128x3096) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. What you paying? this was a bad deal for me at 100 quidWas good no3 though ofc Used to pay 170 for 6.4g no3, but its.gone.up somewhar 8 posts omitted. Click View Thread to read. >> Cyril Worthingford - Mon, 05 Oct 2020 15:21:43 EST ZWuVrCeg No.617450 Reply >>617446Well I guess like he said "more varieties than the stars in the sky" so I felt obliged to give my opinion on gunpowder. Black tar would be a deviation of #3 and in uncut form it actually gives #3 a good run for your money if ure smoking. But the same cant be said about gunpowder, its basically just rerocked heroin with the pretense of being better in any way.Tl;dr: not all Hs are created equal >> Shit Shakeshit - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:19:05 EST M6+yoS00 No.617544 Reply >>617450Fair i thought you said mine was gunpowder lol Bth seems icky to my but ive never had it. I get reclaim no3 from my straw as it builds up and i feeze it and break it all out by rolling it and tapping it. When it warms up its boack and looks exactly like bth. Tastes shit and is sticky. Works though Desperate times measure for me, id hate to actually use it >> Shit Shakeshit - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:20:46 EST M6+yoS00 No.617545 Reply Also uncut heroin vs any cut heroin will always be better, i mean thats the point. Dilute and profit Pure no3 is amazing and so is no4, opium oxy and any other good euphoric opi at equivelant doseTho unlike heroin they feel different
>> Cyril Worthingford - Mon, 05 Oct 2020 15:21:43 EST ZWuVrCeg No.617450 Reply >>617446Well I guess like he said "more varieties than the stars in the sky" so I felt obliged to give my opinion on gunpowder. Black tar would be a deviation of #3 and in uncut form it actually gives #3 a good run for your money if ure smoking. But the same cant be said about gunpowder, its basically just rerocked heroin with the pretense of being better in any way.Tl;dr: not all Hs are created equal
>> Shit Shakeshit - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:19:05 EST M6+yoS00 No.617544 Reply >>617450Fair i thought you said mine was gunpowder lol Bth seems icky to my but ive never had it. I get reclaim no3 from my straw as it builds up and i feeze it and break it all out by rolling it and tapping it. When it warms up its boack and looks exactly like bth. Tastes shit and is sticky. Works though Desperate times measure for me, id hate to actually use it
>> Shit Shakeshit - Sat, 10 Oct 2020 10:20:46 EST M6+yoS00 No.617545 Reply Also uncut heroin vs any cut heroin will always be better, i mean thats the point. Dilute and profit Pure no3 is amazing and so is no4, opium oxy and any other good euphoric opi at equivelant doseTho unlike heroin they feel different
