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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Poppy seed Tea

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- Sat, 07 Dec 2019 08:23:43 EST QbQVpKvR No.612427
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Eliza Brookwater - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:46:34 EST QbQVpKvR No.612454 Reply
Any better guides out there? I want to do this but I also don't want to die/od of course
Augustus Brorrystock - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:23:37 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612455 Reply
If you cant find a good guide you should not do it
dr. m - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 17:25:53 EST LOk04uH3 No.612456 Reply

The PST threads here arbitrarily get insta banned/deleted, assuming we're talking a thread that provides advice outside the most basic stuff ever, with said definitely "acceptable" information being not even remotely sufficient for attempt T consumption.

If you want advice or group discussion on opioids or PST use in general, I suggest clicking the official 420chan discord link at the top of the page, making an account and then scrolling down the userlist until you find me, DrMario. No, I will not provide you sources. Please do not ask for such. But we can definitely get a good safe harm reduction discussion going. Feel free to message me and/or post in the #drugs channel.

Kirt himself said that his Patreon masters, who are basically the only reason financially speaking 420chan can exist in the first place to begin with, aren't okay with actual PST making discussion, as it's essentially manufacturing a Schedule 2 substance on paper, at least in the USA. However, in practicality, I don't know of even one single federal, state, or local charge for manufacture S2 over PST, particularly personal amounts.

Regardless, we should just talk in the official discord as a group instead, again following the same exact no sourcing rules we have here. The more I know about the nature/general vague origin of your product and your tolerance, the more accurate info I can give you.

Hope to talk to you or anyone else there. I'm not interested in writing helpful in depth walls of text that end up getting indirectly locked/removed within a week.

Can you snort 5mg IR oxy?

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- Fri, 06 Dec 2019 06:09:40 EST CiTAR1LH No.612398
File: 1575630580536.jpg -(4255528B / 4.06MB, 4032x3024) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Can you snort 5mg IR oxy?
I have a couple of 5mg endones, are these going to be any good at all up my nose? Pretty low tolerance, as in pretty much none
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Charles Pickgold - Sun, 08 Dec 2019 08:32:36 EST 1JTkEXlh No.612448 Reply
Sweet, just remember. If you find it disappointing imagine how shit snorting it and feeling less would be lol

Eat fatty snack 15min after oral opis to increase bioavaliability

Methadone 10mg

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- Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:41:56 EST QsgmL1hP No.612221
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Im getting 3 of these pretty soon.

Ive never had methadone or even heroin before.

Can you inject these? I take vicodin and snort percs sometimes but i want a stronger high.

Im wondering what the high is like and how i should take them
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Nell Bunridge - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:57:09 EST W7fR+003 No.612268 Reply
'done is long and strong but it is not as fun as opiates. It is euphoric and feels almost like morphine, but there is a reason people choose heroin over it. I've never really loved methadone buzzes, for me they've always got the job done but never awesome like opiates.
I've never shot methadone but it is strong orally, like oxy is (dont snort percs bruh only roxis). Maybe iv methadone makes all the difference. If its a one time thing you could get away with shooting them sans micron filter, although shooting pill binders is worse than aids for you.
Whats your go to doses of hydrocodone and oxy?
Ebenezer Shittingford - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 04:10:48 EST xFheNylU No.612381 Reply
If you weren’t aware, the 10 mg tablets are in my experience
not equivalent to a 10mg dose of methadose. Don’t expect to be taking 100mg right off rip. Even with a tolerance, 5mg methadone tablet may be quite strong. And between the longer-onset but long-acting nature of methadone and the potential oral route, it could take 2-3 hours to really feel what’ in you, so make sure you give the drug time to work before you add onto your dose.
lol - Sat, 07 Dec 2019 04:24:34 EST oaWRMjn3 No.612420 Reply

Everyone at the clinic says this shit too, that when they end up at st marys detox or hospital and get their dose somewhere they only have pills they actually catch a buzz off it, I wonder if that thing about feeling your drugs more in different environments or whatever the fuck has to do with it. I was laid up in the hospital a few days recently and didn't feel any difference, if anything it sucked having to down 12 pills instead of just drinking a little liquid.

Getting ripped on orange methadone syrup

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- Sat, 30 Nov 2019 01:42:42 EST x9WrDoC9 No.612269
File: 1575096162175.jpg -(3777282B / 3.60MB, 5312x2988) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Getting ripped on orange methadone syrup
I was told it was the yellow/ orange variety ( Aussie here)

> It is SUPER waterry, smells like a chemical orange/ lemon smell and taste a lil bitter.

>Was i ripped? Should i bash this cunt?

Pic related, the done im speaking of.
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Eliza Femmergold - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 15:55:31 EST NnFbmenQ No.612391 Reply
Nowt to do with you but ok if you want attention or gratification your welcome.to it

Plugging H

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- Wed, 04 Dec 2019 19:48:06 EST WHsQmwIT No.612371
File: 1575506886420.png -(5446165B / 5.19MB, 1440x2960) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Plugging H
So I got a point of H and it won't get me high to snort or smoke it. I don't shoot, tried it, not for me. So I have a 1 ml oral syringe. I've plugged meth before. How to I make sure my rectal area is clear of feces even if I poop before so I can make sure it works? I don't wanna waste it. I stick it all the way up and lay on my stomach and wait? Anything else? Tips please. I don't waste it. Thank you. Also my slow is the same stuff as in my pic, on the left.
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Emma Greenwell - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 01:45:48 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612379 Reply
water enema yourself
drug enema
dont move for 20 minutes
warmth, heroin, etc
Eliza Femmergold - Thu, 05 Dec 2019 15:48:48 EST NnFbmenQ No.612390 Reply
Not all the way up
Just in
You want it to go in as shallow as possible to absorb in the correct area. Also if you squirt it in hard it will go too far back and not absorb in the 'hot spot' for blood vessels just after your butthole
I'f you stick it all the way in its gonna absorb but not directly into your blood stream, and hit slower. Probably still be efficient but not as.efficient as letting it sit where all the veins and blood vessels are converged.
That's why they say plug on your side but rested on some.pillows so it doesn't flow too far up. Like angle yourself so any liquid goes the bottom of your anal canal where you anus is. Think of yourself like a test tube which absorbs liquid in the very bottom around the walls

Sober people

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- Mon, 18 Nov 2019 00:22:17 EST iVtQ3HeV No.612008
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Anyone here not on /Opis/???? 10 days without using dope. I’m just bored. Funny how my last run of about 8 months I didn’t post here.
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lol - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:44:36 EST IggaRoSW No.612249 Reply

I'm sorry if I made you nervous or worry, I really don't know myself but I thought that's what I've heard before from multiple people, I thought it just gets rid of any of the physical issues like with your liver and everything else but you are still technically considered a carrier, have no idea what that means and if it's still transferable or anything, most of what I know is hearsay. I see the doctor in a few days though so I can ask some questions then.
Panda the Fifth - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:49:17 EST vBUOIBuR No.612250 Reply
I'm not particularly worried, esp after googling it.
The real lesson here is to always have condoms on-hand.
Cedric Sonnerford - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 21:26:49 EST pmDiAfaL No.612378 Reply
Tapered to .5mg bupe, then did a bag of some fentamix over the course of the last day. I've been off opiates for 5 days and I still feel kinda sick, but it's fairly mild. If I hadn't been using bupe for 2 weeks and was doing bags instead I'd feel basically 100% right now. God damn I hate how long bupe detox lasts, but it's far milder than going CT off a dope habit. I've been munching gabapentin like candy to counteract it and reduce cravings and sold or gave away my last subs. I don't plan on staying clean or anything, but I don't wanna be hooked at this point in my life.

Poppy pod tea as a long term opiate user

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- Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:08:58 EST w8jfvXUZ No.612321
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Sound guys

Can't believe 420chan is still going, been like 15 years since I first came on here

I'm on 8mg subutex/buprenorphine a day, used to do like .3 to
5 of b a day and I think my tolerance is still pretty similar.

Was just gonna chuck 30 odd pods in a tea and drink it in quarters. Not much info out there on it. Gonna chuck some lemon juice in as if I was cooking b.

Anyone had experience doing this?
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DTMO - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:36:46 EST aRWRF2tE No.612338 Reply
It definitely would. A substance with a lower affinity for a receptor can displace a substance with a higher affinity if it's present in high enough concentration.
dr. m - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 18:01:32 EST LOk04uH3 No.612364 Reply
at 8mg/day, you needed to immediately drop to something like ~4mg/day for ~2-5 days or more, then one day of just ~1-2mg, then wait maybe ~1.5 days cold turkey aka 36 hours before dosing the pods.

Chipping back and forth is somewhat doable, but IME if you take more than around ~4-5mg/day sublingually or ~3mg/day nasally/rectally, you really have to do a sharp multi day taper + 24-38hr CT in order for the accumulated bupe to have enough time to leave your receptors.

The perfect bupe dose I recommend for those that want to use ontop 1-2x per week would be no more than 3mg sublingual or 2mg nasal/rectal daily, preferably as one single whole dose per day. Taking ~5-50ug of ULDN (naltrexone) once per day when on a non-bupe opioid, or twice a day if on bupe aka suboxone/subutex, really helps with tolerance as well.
Beatrice Mockleson - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 19:57:14 EST w8jfvXUZ No.612373 Reply
Nah pods never really kicked in just gsve me a bit of a dodgy tummy.

From personal experience on 8ng a day bupe I would start doing h and after 48 hours no bupe I'd get the usual effects

Beginner oral Morphine dosage? Both instant and XR?

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- Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:44:10 EST LUyYscjX No.612255
File: 1575017050312.png -(89153B / 87.06KB, 1080x608) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Beginner oral Morphine dosage? Both instant and XR?
Hey guys I got some access to some morphine, both XR and instant release.
At what dosage should I start? Thanks guys.
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DTMO - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:52:11 EST aRWRF2tE No.612339 Reply
>Morphine is technically 1:1 with hydrocodone in terms of analgesia, but so many people insist that morphine is notably weaker than hydrocodone mg for mg when both are taken orally.

No, it's 1:1 when via IV. Oral BA of both substances are vastly different.
DTMO - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:55:08 EST aRWRF2tE No.612340 Reply
I'm just saying it's not a matter of "many people insist" it's a matter of "look st any scientific data on the subject". It's readily available information and not speculative at all.
dr. m - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:17:20 EST LOk04uH3 No.612359 Reply
nope...let's take a look.


Equianalgesic Oral Doses (in mg):
Morphine IR : 30mg
Oxycodoe IR: 20-30mg
Hydrocodone IR: 30-45mg
Codeine: 200mg

It looks like somehow oral hydrocodone is listed as even weaker than oral morphine...weird. And I've always thought codeine is 10:1 codeine:morphine for oral use in normal metabolizing people.

Generally speaking, IV morphine is roughly ~2.23x stronger than oral oxycodone mg for mg (based on assuming of 30% oral BA of morphine, though it generally varies from ~20-40%). IV morphine is supposedly ~3-3.33x stronger than oral hydrocodone mg for mg, but I can definitely agree that's up for debate.

Let's be clear, though. 20mg of oral oxycodone IR is equal to 30mg oral hydrocodone IR which is also equal to ~30mg oral morphine, though logically that can vary by as much as ~20-40mg oral morphine given the high variability in oral BA (~20-40% BA variation when considering the middle 95% percentile metabolizers).

Now I don't disagree that 30mg oral hydrocodone has more recreational potential for most users than 30mg oral morphine, particularly for daily/near daily morphine users by merit of the fact that habitual morphine users "achieve" a modest but measurable increase in effective BA over time. That being said, in terms of raw analgesia, they're basically 1:1 assuming the patient achieves an oral BA of say ~27-33% or higher. I'm convinced that most of the people who always needed double the oral dose of morphine when compared to hydrocodone were ultimately inefficient metabolizers of morphine, and were only able to achieve an oral morph BA of like ~15-20% instead of ~30-40%.

Pill identification

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- Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:19:48 EST k3gioFlh No.612081
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Anyone know what this might be? It's got a capital M on the other side but this side in pic related is almost impossible to make out. It has a score line and it looks like it might also say 05 on on side of score line, which leads me to believe it might be Oxycodone. Not sure though.

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Edwin Blinderfet - Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:17:43 EST A0ilEnUZ No.612251 Reply
cool i’m going to dph/sodium carbonate/citric acid/micron filter and cheese it
Cornelius Changerridge - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 00:40:35 EST A0ilEnUZ No.612336 Reply
wait is there a way to snort #3? like by converting it to #4
Emma Greenwell - Wed, 04 Dec 2019 19:03:06 EST 30kb9fBZ No.612368 Reply
you people and your silly heroin. black tar or bust

Is it to worth is to spend 85 bucks on a half g of fentadope?

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- Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:10:11 EST +YqNcs0a No.612198
File: 1574827811643.jpg -(199629B / 194.95KB, 1080x2220) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Is it to worth is to spend 85 bucks on a half g of fentadope?
So the dope scene is just starting out in my area. And people have no clue had to handle it. One chick wants $30 a point all the way up. I must admit although all the tar ive botten in this southern state (not Texas) has been really decent. My main plug whos very well connected got some powder H which I'm assuming has fentanyl in it.

I should mention I have a realtivy higher tolerance than most people to fetty cause I used to cop in the city of brothery love's drug market.

I trust this guy although he doesnt use, (just served 5 years in prison). My main concern is it wont break through the 8mg of subs ive been taking for about a month now excluding today.

I know it will be on weight if not more I just really dont want to waste my money or die.

Any opinions?

(pic related, the brick my plug just picked up_
lol - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:21:41 EST IggaRoSW No.612199 Reply

You're still playing with fire regardless of your tolerance with shit that can be super strong. If you're just assuming and you got money to spend I'd suggest grabbing a rest kit, I get urgency is the name of the game with getting high especially when you've got the dope but you really can't be too careful these days. 30 a point is wild even for the most fire dope, at least where I'm from.
dr. m - Wed, 27 Nov 2019 14:52:16 EST LOk04uH3 No.612212 Reply
While I repeat this a lot on this board, whatever you do, just make sure you do VOLUMETRIC DOSING! Do NOT for any reason consume fentadope in dry form! If you consume it in liquid form and follow the common sense titration safety protocols, it's easily ~10-50x safer than consuming it in dry form.

Take the entire bag and weigh it minus the bag it came in. If you don't have a scale, you can buy one at a smoke shop for an overpriced amount (like $20-40), but personally I prefer buying from Amaz0n. I advise getting this one if you're on a low budget, as it's only $9.78:

American Weigh Scale AWS-100 Digital Pocket Scale, 100g X 0.01g Resolution

The next step up is a .001g scale (mg scale, cheaper one is a 10mg scale) and costs $27.78:

American Weigh Scales Gemini Series Precision Digital Milligram Scale, Silver 20G X 0.001G (GEMINI-20)

Then all you have to do is measure some water (go to a pharmacy and ask for an oral syringe for your dog's medicine, and if they don't just give you several different sizes for free, say the vet mentioned 10 milliliter oral syringe), pour the dope in a somewhat airtight container (search "dropper bottles" on Amaz0n and sort from cheapest to most expensive...I like the cobalt blue or amber colored ones), and then gently squirt the water ontop of the dope in the container.

Shake it like crazy for ~1.5-3 minutes, then let it sit for ~10-30+ minutes before shaking it up again. After you've shaken it once, waited ~10-30 minutes, shaken it a 2nd time, then waited ~15+ minutes, then shaken it up a third time, you can then either try a test dose or let it sit in the refrigerator. It's best to keep it in the fridge in case it's cut with anything that's sugar-based or otherwise contains calories, as bacteria can start to bloom like wildfire. Try to keep it out of the fridge for no longer than ~45-90 minutes while waiting for it to dissolve.

Then you should be ready to go. Make sure you write down the math. Treat it as if it's 2x as strong as pure carfentanil. Since carfent is supposedly 100x stronger than fent, and you can most likely handle 1mg of non-IV fent no problem, start with a dose of ~5ug (5 micrograms, aka 0.005mg). Wait ~20-30 minutes, and if you feel absolutely nothing, increase your dosage by 10x until you start to feel anything above placebo whatsoever.

Once you figure out how much liquid you need for a "dose," you won't have to slowly increase your dosage for the rest of the entire sack. You can snort the liquid, boof/plug it, possibly use it sublingually/buccally on your cheek/gums, or IV it with proper filters (0.22ug micron filters, which are also sold on Amaz0n).

Consider getting test strips from a place like dancesafe dot 0rg. They're $2 each shipped (you can buy just 1 if you want), and the reason I prefer these over potentially cheaper ones is because several studies have shown that not all fent test strips are created equal, particularly when it comes to fent analogues.

I agree with lol though...you're playing with fire. If you really want to lapse/relapse and/or switch between subs and dope/fent regularly, you're best off slowly tapering down to a less blocking sub dose, such as a maximum of 4mg, and even better something like ~3mg sublingual, ~2mg nasal/rectal, or ~1mg IV per day.
William Seblingwadging - Sun, 01 Dec 2019 14:34:23 EST Ft8bQzQh No.612297 Reply
Well if you want to break thru subs fent is the way to go. personally id rather be sober than on fent.

Fucking gay ass rules and shit

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- Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:46:29 EST 6DTNpgA+ No.612155
File: 1574711189672.jpg -(47533B / 46.42KB, 569x365) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Fucking gay ass rules and shit
Anyways did anyone preorder from that one place? I did and my order hasn’t shipped out yet wanted to see if it was just me or what. I’ve sent a couple emails over the past month trying to get confirmation that it would ship out today and never once got a reply pretty fucking dumb. Sorry for making a thread it’s too bad there isn’t like a single thread I can drop this in as a post.
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John Pockwell - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:46:26 EST 013riyBc No.612259 Reply
Oh yeah man somethings up. I already got my first order from a preorder back on Tuesday. Put another order in last night and it just shipped.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 30 Nov 2019 06:43:37 EST Z4YJu/MJ No.612279 Reply
On the real, be fucking careful with disclosure of sensitive information—even if it is the brand of drugs. We do not wnat to make PST or any other semi-legal opioid more difficult to obtain as a result of negligent or careless posting.

God damn it, now I know what I have not fucked with PST in my life. Brand differentials, batch differentiation, and the overall size of packages if a major turnoff for me. But, I am quite fond of ingesting pharma grade morphine and among other opioids.

Doing heroin once

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- Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:40:17 EST GDnzJeg6 No.612245
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My long time friend that unfortunately started abusing heroin and xanax a little while ago offered me a bundle of heroin. Im midly interesed in trying just once, is that even possible?
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dr. m - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:12:34 EST LOk04uH3 No.612262 Reply
If you have no opioid tolerance, this is basically a suicide mission, especially if you don't consume it as a volumetrically dosed liquid. Most ecp #4 "heroin" in NA contains some amount of fentanyl analogues, and they're not all that evenly mixed.
Nell Bunridge - Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:32:49 EST W7fR+003 No.612266 Reply
Make sure its good shit no fentdope, hopefully your friend isnt retarded and knows the difference. My long time friend who I would turn on to drugs like lsd then benzos then weed, i brought him an op80, after a few hours let him sniff some decent fentdope, he had a great time, really understood the whole opiate thing. Years later he hasnt touched any opiates. He also miraculously replaced a couple year benzo habit with weed, good for him.
op: i'd recommend getting some oxycodone or morphine pills, if you cant get guaranteed good dope. Personally I'd rather be sober than messing with fent, it has no euphoria and rapes your tolerance, it could be disappointing if youre expecting opiate euphoria.

TFW you get arrested for trafficking tea

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- Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:28:16 EST QZ8ZZ6+a No.612164
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Isabella Gavingfed - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:00:30 EST QZ8ZZ6+a No.612194 Reply
just contact the vendor and ask them. im sure they can give you a solid response
Cornelius Chiddlemad - Tue, 26 Nov 2019 21:51:03 EST x/MpvXPq No.612197 Reply
Kratoms legal in canada you fucking retards, that's LEGAL, as in not ILLEGAL.

I swear to fuck you fucking dummy fucks are fucked in the fucking head

Its kratom but backwards

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- Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:22:42 EST QZ8ZZ6+a No.612183
File: 1574806962519.jpg -(128444B / 125.43KB, 840x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Its kratom but backwards
does anyone use Motark as a vender? just made my first non smoke shop purchase today. Im amazed at how cheap it is. 250 grams for 25$ is insanely cheap just wondering what the quality is like.

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