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hydro street price value for your area

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- Wed, 05 Feb 2020 19:32:38 EST LGJPOwWg No.613481
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hey all, im in southern ontario near toronto

ive taken these (6mg) a bunch of times over the past few yrs, just wondering what you think the price/value average is for them / what it should be and considering your area

also open to hearing about different mg prices bc these seem to go 6-12-18-24-30

thank you
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Cyril Brookcocke - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:44:49 EST E+ax0Bnx No.613661 Reply
>>613575
>>613566>>613575
>>613566

goddamn man, I'm in regina and like the cheapest I've heard of em is like 40-50 bucks thats the price a middleman of mine gets but he will get a few ppl to pick up. I really would only buy single pills tho. obviously if you were to buy a script or spend more than 500 youd get a lower per dollar price.
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joe jackson - Sun, 16 Feb 2020 17:46:43 EST E+ax0Bnx No.613662 Reply
goddamn man, I'm in regina and like the cheapest I've heard of em is like 40-50 bucks thats the price a middleman of mine gets but he will get a few ppl to pick up. I really would only buy single pills tho. obviously if you were to buy a script or spend more than 500 youd get a lower per dollar price.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:51:40 EST tciyKPMT No.613701 Reply
>>613662
People drive in to Edmonton from Indian reservations out in Saskatchewan to come to our cold cop spots and they are always the best custies they have no concept of the set value of things. Like I sold 21 Gabby 400s for 50$ once and they took that deal and tanked me afterwards.

Taper plan

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- Sat, 01 Feb 2020 20:31:28 EST YofsFlfv No.613393
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Gonna begin to ration out minimal doses of kratom at least 2 and possibly 3 times a day starting in the next few days. I just cant afford to maintain this physical dependence on it to survive any longer. Its not going to be a good way to continue on into this new decade now upon us. I would be so much better off if i could just get down to a very small amount a day (to me I would consider anything 1/4oz or less to be perfect). Its just been years of Heroin, Pills and Opium and the rest on Kratom. Im ready to get down to a bare minimum and from there I can recoup mentally and consider how to make the jump, but for now I wont let myself be overwhelmed even by the thought of the final stage, gotta start at the beginning not at the end.

Wish me luck yall. Anyone advice would be great, really not looking to use any other opis to get off this ride, Kratom should work fine with other "comfort drugs" to help it along I think.
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Graham Dandleville - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 01:32:00 EST 7RaDv8Xu No.613463 Reply
>>613462
I reread it and now I think that's probably not what you meant, sorry I'm retarded
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Phoebe Fodgehall - Wed, 05 Feb 2020 02:10:52 EST YofsFlfv No.613465 Reply
>>613462
i just cant afford to need over a half oz of kratom a day just to function going forward forever. Its a fucking miracle that Kratom is still as legal as it is and with the situation going on in Asia I dont know whats going to be happening with it this year. Trying to plan ahead so I dont have to get cut off one day later on abruptly and go through agony.
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m - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:07:27 EST 7CjouJSN No.613686 Reply
>>613465
Kratom only costs like ~$0.10/g if you buy it by the kilo, and should never really be over ~$0.15 or maybe arguably $0.20/g for any reason, and it needs to be special to demand a price above $0.10/g.

That's only like $3/day if you actually take a full ounce every single day, or $1.50/day taking 14-15g. I'm sorry, but you either are getting shafted by your source, or you're arguably if an unacceptably bad financial situation that has nothing to do with kratom. Spending just ~$45 or $50 a month on kratom is stupidly cheap/affordable, especially when compared to almost any prescription daily medication out there (most insurance plans charge ~$20-40+/month just for co-pay, not even including monthly insurance costs).

If you can't scrape $40-60 together per month, I suggest not focusing on how to taper off. Instead, figure out how you can make an extra ~$40-60 or where else in your budget you can reduce your living costs. That's the cost of just ~2-4 or so beers at a bar per week.

Week without bupe

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- Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:08:42 EST IxGcrMpY No.613579
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Hello, my sub doctor wrote me a 4 week script as usually but scheduled me 5 weeks out. I realize this today as I run out and realize my appt is a week out. I cannot get a hold of him so I think he is camping or something. He's been very professional but he is a bit out of it, sometimes he wrote my debit card number wrong so it didnt charge me, etc. I think he forgot to tell me about vacation and update my scripts for 5 instead of 4 weeks.

Any ideas? Loperamide, kratom extracts, craigslist scoring,
Been calling sub doctors but nothing yet
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John Pommerspear - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:22:59 EST W76L+LV1 No.613593 Reply
>>613591
thanks for the reply
I've shot suboxone strips off and on for years and only used micron filters maybe 30% of the time. I really wish they were more available. Anyway I'll buy some off ebay so I have a large stock since I'm switching to bupe again and know I won;t be able to stay away from the needle, at least not until I'm properly stabilized.
I always feel paranoid shooting them but haven;t done it THAT much so I haven't noticed any ill effects yet luckily. (Not saying I haven;t caused any damage)
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Fanny Nungerlet - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 03:56:53 EST IxGcrMpY No.613594 Reply
>>613593
I'd imagine you could use one wheel to filter a lot and then freeze the solution. Anyone know if thats a bad idea?
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dr. m - Fri, 14 Feb 2020 04:39:12 EST 7CjouJSN No.613630 Reply
>>613594
Personally I'd only do this if I truly couldn't afford it otherwise, and even then I'd only whip up a few days worth to maybe a week maximum, being sure my fan is off and transferring the end product in a truly well sterilized container that is airtight before transferring it to a refrigerator, preferably the "non-food"/mini-fridge if you have the luxury of 2 fridges. Never work with pseudo-sterile (microns don't sterilize anything, don't keep out all 100% of bacteria though it's over 99% by a lot, don't remove any bacteria-created toxins <0.22ug in size, and don't reliably reduce virus count to "safe" levels whatsoever, as in the viral filtration rate could be as small as just ~1-49%, though IMO it's likely to have lower viral count/load than a cotton filtered solution, but not enough to truly matter when it comes to HIV or especially Hep C). drug administration/creation in a bathroom if you can, unless perhaps it's pre-made, micron'd solution using a fresh needle. If for some reason you would be IVing more than 1x/day, then sure I guess you could use 1 filter for 1-2 days worth of dosing, but practice safe/sterile protocols or it's all possibly not worth it.

Spoiler: general tangent(s) related to safe IV use, general bupe use, and some tolerance reduction supplementation towards the end.

Microns are as cheap as like ~$0.20-0.50 each, and since they don't trap >1% of active drug like cottons always do (that's why "cotton washes" even work), depending on your DoC, they likely pay for themselves by reducing those costs alone. If you do IV and can't get microns or at least sterifilts, for the love of God don't IV cotton washes or re-use cottons even if you dry them out ASAP; snort, boof, or eat the "washes" instead, depending on bioavailability.

Just never ever reuse a micron filter later than like 1-30 minutes after the first use, but I'm being arbitrary here. Just don't do it, and when you can, ALWAYS use TWO different needles assuming you draw up the non-micron filtered solution before pushing it through a micron filter. Unless you somehow fill the syringe via non-needle back loading, always use one to draw up the unsafe crap and another to actually IV it. If I was stuck with just 1 fresh needle, and some how couldn't get the syringe filled without sucking up unfiltered gunk/bacteria, I'd consider something like wiping it with iso or squirting some iso through it, but I guess you'd need a clean barrel to even do that, so just don't do it period, and if you have to, I guess sterilize the outside tip with iso in one single clean downward wiping motion using an iso prep pad that won't break apart into small fibers.

If you can afford it, seriously if you miss or otherwise need to pull out and attempt another injection, then remove the used one and attach a fresh one. Always use an alcohol wipe on an injection site, and IMO, either untie your makeshift tourniquet, or at least inject your solution relatively slowly but consistently so you don't contribute to potential risks of vein collapse/being blown out. This stuff matters. And don't forget that IV bupe is pretty much minmum ~3x more efficient than sublingual, and roughly 2x more efficient than nasal/rectal (can be just 1.5x if you do things to enhance nasal/rectal use), so IV doses above say ~4-6mg, or especially >8mg don't really make sense unless you plan to achieve an 8-12+ hour nod or something, and even then only if you're offsetting such high doses with increased non-use duration or somewhat lower daily use rates.

For me, anything above 4mg/day sublingual equivalent means no mega dose (at least non-IV/IM) is capable of truly psychoative effects above placebo/baseline. For that, you need to IMO wean down to like 4mg or especially 2mg or less sublingual/day, anything 1.5mg or less being ideal, and then perhaps consider using one "megadose" a maximum of once a week, preferably once every 10-14 days, at ~4-6, maybe 8mg IV.

Also, if you can, to reduce your past, current, and future tolerance/tolerance gain, buy a very limited amount (smallest quantity they'll let you unless shipping if flat rate & expensive) of naltrexone pills from a reputable (best you can find) clear net site, and if they're made by an Indian company, do your research on that c…
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Suboxone

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- Mon, 03 Feb 2020 18:22:12 EST XvZ81YTx No.613424
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About to pick up my first suboxone script ever. Im excited. All i do is crave opiates but cant afford seeds with the prices now. I'm in minor WD more than I'm high anymore.

Is it true the naloxone doesnt actually have any effect unless you try to shoot it or take too much?

I am tempted to snort 1-2mg because I hear it has higher bioavailability that way. If I snort one will the naloxone activate and make me feel shitty? Is it true none of the naloxone activates if taken sublingual?

I'm reading so much mixed and contradictory info. I'm hoping someone can give me a convincing explanation.
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Solidikans - Wed, 12 Feb 2020 16:31:37 EST VozGxhDd No.613606 Reply
>>613424
Enjoy running out of your take homes and getting withdrawals. Don’t miss those days. Just suck up the withdrawals and switch to kratom.
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Samuel Bradgehood - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 02:20:44 EST IxGcrMpY No.613611 Reply
I take 16mg daily for years. I also take edible cannabis oil, which makes a difference, i end up nodding off at night. It used to be more stimulating. I dose either 8mg 8mg or 4mg 8mg 4mg, mixing it up like that can make a difference too. Also taking 16mg at once or all in the a.m..

>>613606
In the us, you get a month at a time, and generally high as 24, 32mg, so you shouldnt have to worry about running out.
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m - Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:39:59 EST lRTMMJYy No.613619 Reply
>>613606
Is this genuinely a problem for even a sizable minority of properly stabilized suboxone/subutex patients in the US? My perception is that bupe scripts for addiction maintenance tend to be particularly oversized in quantity and dosage. From what I've read, anyone that doesn't have a genuine mouth-related medical problem/peculiarity that impacts their ability to sublingual tablets or strips without swallowing it all instead should be able to achieve ~90%+ receptor saturation on daily doses of 8, perhaps 12mg daily, and the data differs on indicating whether that's from a single dose or continual daily use. So frankly, anything more than 8mg daily shouldn't really be necessary for patients who've been fully "detoxed"/chemically stabilized on bupe for say ~60-90 days, and certainly not after 6 months or so of following the program properly.

Yet most people I talk to are scripted at the very least 8mg/day, and at least half of them receive 16mg or even 24 or 32mg/day, or were at least offered the option to stay on such doses. I myself receive a whopping 24mg/day despite finding a dose well below 8mg (roughly ~5-6mg sublingual equivalent) adequate for my needs.

So I'm asking, how the hell does someone offered 8mg/day, or particularly 12-32mg/day, even manage to run out assuming they're not selling their script? Anything over ~12-16mg sublingual arguably doesn't really even do anything especially with consistent use, and IMO doses above 16mg or so sublingual equivalent don't do anything extra apart from perhaps increasing duration.

Most I know only need like half of what they're scripted or less. Honestly doses above say 24mg don't really make sense even in the short term, and arguably doses above 12-16mg/day don't really make sense pharmacologically when used after a properly crafted 6 or so month stabilization+maintenance plan.

Except for the most unique and complex cases, this stuff shouldn't even be scripted >16mg/day to start and like 12mg/day long term. All this extra does often get used by "addicted" users via black market which can be good or bad, but there's also an entire generation of new people whose opioid use/exposure/experience is pretty much majority kratom or bupe use/arguable abuse.

If bupe is good enough to be a so-called gateway drug into street heroin in parts of Scandanavia and eastern Europe, then it can and does happen here. There's too much of this stuff, not the opposite, though that doesn't mean there isn't healthcare access or affordability issues for addicts.

Opium for beginners

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- Sun, 09 Feb 2020 01:46:13 EST zX1KbYDp No.613554
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How does opium feels like? Any strange experience? any mystical one?
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Eliza Blackworth - Sun, 09 Feb 2020 20:52:35 EST YofsFlfv No.613565 Reply
>>613564
excuse me, what are you, some kinda nazi or something? it was 6 gorillion!

fucking bigot....
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Jack Drillywell - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:37:46 EST IxGcrMpY No.613580 Reply
who turned my 6 million pounds of opium into ash? opium lamp shades???
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Martin Sommlewit - Tue, 11 Feb 2020 09:32:32 EST TcIbwHQU No.613597 Reply
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>>613565
>>613580
The mods might be the only people that havent got the memo at this point.

Whaddup quetz! Thanks for deleting, see you soon!

Coronavirus vs Kratom

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- Tue, 04 Feb 2020 04:11:39 EST qR4cvv3J No.613436
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I just had a lovely thought. If/when this Flu Tang epidemic gets worse and spreads to kratom source countries, is the government going to step in and just completely ban all consumable imports from them? And even if they don't, how likely would it be that eating kratom could infect you? The virus is said to be able to survive for at least 112 hours on un-sanitized surfaces, and I can't imagine any kratom farmers/exporters have particularly good food safety practices. I usually try not to think about that when I'm eating my drugs, but now I can't help it. I mean, wasn't there recently a big batch of kratom that was giving people salmonella?

I hope everyone sleeps well tonight
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Frederick Ducklestock - Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:01:31 EST YofsFlfv No.613519 Reply
Just stocked up on a few extra LBs last night, would recommend yall do the same pronto, the official numbers have broke 30,000 now, going to be over 50,000 soon enough.
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Barnaby Chivingstet - Sat, 08 Feb 2020 05:55:15 EST 2Fuuagq4 No.613542 Reply
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I just ordered two kilos, different strains so I can keep my tolerance at tolerable levels. I've got about 500 or 600 grams left currently, so I'll throw these bastards in the fridge when they show up and then just wait and see what happens.

I'm seriously not ready for the post-apocalypse. I'm addicted to drugs that only grow on the other side of the world and I don't own a gun. I'm hoping this will die down in a few months but I have absolutely no faith in humanity to take care of itself.
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Eliza Blackworth - Mon, 10 Feb 2020 17:36:00 EST YofsFlfv No.613582 Reply
Got my bug out stash of kratom today so now in total I have 4LB. Thankfully the dates on the packaging for them all were from January or December and they all came vacuum sealed. Decided to throw them all in the freezer with at least 4LB of vacuum sealed coffee grounds since I wont need to tap into any of it for a bit. Its been advised to keep anything you plan to ingest if you can in a freezer for a while prior to consumption.

This year is taking off fast and hard into being the most insane year of our lives, I always said that by 2020 we were in for big changes globally, we are certainly off to a hell of a start.

Every day less and less people are saying "this is gonna blow over, dont worry". Its starting to slowly settle in it seems.

I really love all you guys and will keep everyone in the world in my thoughts and prayers, I encourage everyone to spend time now with family and loved ones, we need to remember what really matters to us in these dark times.

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