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Harm Reduction Notes for the COVID-19 Pandemic

Need advice on smoking h can't get needles atm

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- Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:16:09 EST qOGI+0Mb No.614187
File: 1584148569748.png -(404160B / 394.69KB, 664x450) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Need advice on smoking h can't get needles atm
Can someone give me an awesome faq or explanation on how to smoke some h?
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Isabella Grimville - Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:58:38 EST LjTeeZsG No.614190 Reply
>>614187
what type? tar=get two paper clips, heat one with torch and play the violin, use short straw or make one,hold in long as possible. if you have mega tolerance or powder or bad gear you need to chase it on foil, dont over heat it, let it run and catch all the vapor with straw, while adulterants will smoke the h should be invisible vapor
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Betsy Nicklefoot - Tue, 17 Mar 2020 02:17:04 EST PZRjwi89 No.614244 Reply
>>614187
there's a pdf on front page if you google search. shows you how to roll the straw and everything

Tramadol and Adderall - seizure risk?

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- Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:38:43 EST IHuv6N5b No.614122
File: 1583944723533.jpg -(2007622B / 1.91MB, 2401x3201) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Tramadol and Adderall - seizure risk?
I take 45mgs of Adderall and 2mgs of clonazapam daily.

I took 150mgs of tramadol this morning along with my clonazapam. Would it be dangerous to take some of my adderall?

I had a seizure a while ago because I stopped taking my clonazapam and took a large dose of kratom.

Anyone ever mix trams and Adderall? Is this too risky?
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m - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:58:49 EST vgHBTjMI No.614124 Reply
>>614123
Oh yeah sorry, and also taking adderall daily in your situation is absurd. So yeah, quit either the addy or the tram.
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Nigel Sinningwill - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 13:13:58 EST IHuv6N5b No.614125 Reply
>>614124
Okay thanks for the response - I figured taking Adderall would probably be a bad idea but wanted to make sure. The trams are not a daily thing - last time I took them was over a year ago.
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m - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:15:01 EST vgHBTjMI No.614130 Reply
>>614125
Honestly, the biggest piece of the puzzle is making sure you take adequate clonazepam relative to your normal tolerance to ensure sufficient anti-epileptic properties. Again, one big factor of tramadol-related seizure risk that IMO is not discussed enough is whether you stagger your doses or not. Staggered tramadol is not only more euphoric and at least for pain that's not "nerve related" or otherwise atypical (meaning traditional opioids would be otherwise effective), is a much stronger analgesic.

The reason why staggered tram is much less seizure-causing is because staggered tramadol results in a much higher % of tramadol metabolizing into O-DSMT, ultimately increasing the O-DSMT portion of effects (functions mostly like a typical MOR agonist and no known significant SNRI/SSRI effects) and decreasing actual tramadol's effects.

>My tips for you

Seriously, 150mg tram or less isn't that risky, as long as you take more clonazepam than normal that day, and try to time it so that you take the clonazepam either with the first tram dose, or maybe an hour before the first tram dose.

As for adderall, if you can manage it, definitely take less than normal, like 10-30mg, and do so preferably 6-10 or so hours before the tram dose so that half the adderall has left your system.

Again, adderall plays a role, but #1 staggering your tram to 50mg every 30 minutes and #2 taking maybe 3mg kpin before the tram is the most important thing.

Best way to not get physically dependent after being clean

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- Mon, 09 Mar 2020 14:20:32 EST xx+SSIWM No.614101
File: 1583778032872.png -(632742B / 617.91KB, 540x654) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Best way to not get physically dependent after being clean
What's the best way to use and not get physically dependent on opis? Obviously im already mentally consumed by them, or i wouldn't be asking this ridiculous question.

>Do any of you guys have a sort of safe way of using?

I just jumped back on the train after being clean for a year. I've used like 5 times in February and that was it. No physical dependency.

SO, I my question is: Will I most likely be safe if I only use on the weekends and don't get greedy and deviate?

>>Inb4 best way to not get addicted is to not use XDDD
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George Ballercocke - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 14:11:25 EST xx+SSIWM No.614114 Reply
>>614103

Yeah, I see what you mean. I'm messing with a fucking bull that's ready to charge at me at any time if I keep it up every weekend. Once / twice a month should be the max otherwise I'm just going to get sucked back in all together. Last time I lost EVERYTHING, so even the fact that I'm risking it right now by asking this question just shows the stupid, awesome power opis can have over a person.

My route of consumption is usually nasal, I live for the drip now that I'm not shooting anymore.
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m - Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:10:44 EST vgHBTjMI No.614121 Reply
>>614117
I'll write one up as a new thread today or tomorrow. Please do chime in so it doesn't just fall past page 1-2. Not many people seem serious about trying ULDN. It's the only "biohack" supplement I've ever taken that made me feel for sure that it wasn't a meme or pseudo-placebo.

1st time buying in like 10 years

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- Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:30:07 EST OJKO2Dby No.613634
File: 1581719407256.png -(180181B / 175.96KB, 376x483) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 1st time buying in like 10 years
Finally ran out of my 10 year old H stash that was before the time of fentanyl

Found a guy who normally deals in pharms who got me these, see below

Swears up, down, and sideways that it does NOT contain any fentanyl. I'm a brand new customer, I'm fairly sure he doesn't want me to die today, since I placed a huge pharm order for next week. Personally, i was under the impression that if it's in pebbles it's pretty safe, it's the powder that will fuck your shit up with fentalogues

Is that true, or....

Well, best question would be how can I be safe with these.
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Phineas Blackstock - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 12:12:38 EST dG9egPEc No.614080 Reply
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>>614077
Yes we all know about volumetric dosing. It doesn't work with every ROA.

Do you think i'm a shill for Gemini or something? I mentioned that I also had the $100 one and that it wasn't worth buying. I have absolutely no reason to vouch for it other than my experience with it.

I've had 2 Gem20's (I broke one on dissos), and both performed the same. That is to say that once calibrated, they hold onto the calibration accurately. And when you weigh substances above 15mg (as I mentioned in my first reply), it gets me within 1-2mg. Try the weight trick I mentioned in that post too.
I've really played around with it a lot over the years and I just don't see a reason to bash it.. Just don't confuse it for being a lab grade scale that's all.
It's a 20 dollar scale that you can weigh things out to a 3mg accuracy,
If you really need greater accuracy than that then I agree, spend the money and buy something else. Not everyone is using drugs where 3mg is going to matter so know the limits of the Gem20 and it's still all they need.
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Lillian Draddlekune - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 14:07:26 EST gE8yyxax No.614083 Reply
>>614080
I think you should read from the start of the thread your confused and jusr arguing at stuff which dosent make sense because you havent put the effort in to scroll a bit and its meaningless

Nb

Mexican fent roxys question

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- Sun, 08 Mar 2020 00:05:15 EST qVGIcxLQ No.614055
File: 1583643915373.png -(1170007B / 1.12MB, 720x1440) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Mexican fent roxys question
Hey d/opi/ bros

My friend and I have been frequently smoking these Mexican 30mg fentanyl pills that are designed like 30mg blue roxycodones and are commonly called blues or "percs" (whoever calls them this, go fuck yourself).

Ive heard from multiple people that i should be bending and using my lighter to misshapen my tooter to have many " walls" or "bends", so it can collect extra shit that's not smoke on the inside to smoke or snort later for extra junk just in case i get sick with no way to reup.

So my question is, is it worth it to bend and twist my tooter to collect this shit, or is this just some junkie thoughts and its a waste of time.

Pic related, its my tray with a twisted up tooter. Urban legend or totally worth it?
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John Geddleden - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 10:58:42 EST lpQGG48I No.614112 Reply
>>614055
Does snorting fet make your back nostril / little bit of throat numb? He Had to pick uo from a random and snorted a bag of it to make sure they wer str8 and he warned me they were 100% fet and not to do more than one. But Swims never had numbing in the drip before like this?
Tldr does strong fetanol or dope numb nose or throat upon snortin? Swim wants to know
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George Ballercocke - Tue, 10 Mar 2020 14:06:43 EST xx+SSIWM No.614113 Reply
>>614112
OP here again:

I used to snort fent, but as my tolerance ceiling raised it wasn't as effective as smoking it. I can quickly down 5+ pills in 15 mins and have all of that in lungs instead of waiting for 5 pills filled with all kinda extra bullshit to absorb through my mucus membrane. I recommend just smoking your fent. Way harder to OD that way too, since it hits you faster.

As for your question: it could be the cut? Cuz I've gotten pure fent off of a dnm sale and I tried nasal spray, snorting, shooting and smoking and shooting and smoking werre definitely the best... But I didn't notice any numbness? Even in the drip. I wouldn't worry about it bro... like I said, prolly just the cut

Cooker wash

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- Fri, 06 Mar 2020 07:18:10 EST gE8yyxax No.614023
File: 1583497090991.jpg -(47758B / 46.64KB, 744x792) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Cooker wash
Can you wipe away all the stuck H on your cooking pans and let the alcohol evap, then soak it in 1ml water /citric acid water deepending on whether you use mo3 or no4 h

Would it be safe to suck it up, empty into fresh pan through a micron filter and then shoot or plug the mix
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m - Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:50:00 EST vgHBTjMI No.614371 Reply
>>614094
It doesn't matter if you manage to kill the bacteria though. There's toxin byproducts of the bacteria that gave already been created, and they cant just be hit with iso. That's why non-needle use is so important.

Nb

Loperamide

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- Mon, 09 Mar 2020 08:23:18 EST VWFpn1lf No.614092
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Brainlet here
How to get high off Loperamide without killing myself?
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Albert Billingford - Mon, 09 Mar 2020 10:06:15 EST gE8yyxax No.614093 Reply
>>614092
Just know the doses you have to take.make it really hard ti piss or shit at all for many hours or even a day or two
And you will probably have a realllly painful shit a few days after you dose since the dose for constipation is low and you need to meha dose in order to force enough through your bbb at once to actually feel it. Because lope goes in your bbb and normally is immediately ejected
Hence why its an opiod with no high, so to speak. Because it only affects the guts opiod receptors
But take shit loads and your system floods reoeatedly putting in more than your bbb can force out, which isnt healty but its what people have to do if their dumb enough to not just maintain or taper with lope

poppy seed tea

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- Sat, 07 Mar 2020 16:56:27 EST fZUt6EKm No.614046
File: 1583618187853.jpg -(92605B / 90.43KB, 1200x875) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. poppy seed tea
How exactly do you make poppy seed tea? (if you have the unwashed seeds)
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Taking klonopins while at methadone clinic

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- Fri, 06 Mar 2020 15:59:37 EST h1CJHjkg No.614030
File: 1583528377383.png -(247060B / 241.27KB, 500x375) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. Taking klonopins while at methadone clinic
I just thought I'd share with you guys that kpins dont show up on drug screens at clinics

they testing they use either IA or GS-MS test are insensitive to it because the heat destroys 7-aminoclonazepam

So anyone wanna share stories on there 'miraculous" passing
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Ebenezer Hucklenock - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 17:29:27 EST YULpFGGC No.614048 Reply
I was taking between 4-6mg daily and getting my script from my primary care Dr and I never popped positive on any drug test, swab or urine and I know they were gc/ms tested.

You are right tho clonazepams metabolite is unstable in biofluid and the immunoassay and gcms test use extreme heat to create a gas which how they can see the metabolites
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Ebenezer Hucklenock - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 17:31:39 EST YULpFGGC No.614049 Reply
>>614048
And heat destroys 7-aminoclanzepam.

Source: wikipedia
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Hannah Henningmore - Sun, 08 Mar 2020 12:35:19 EST 5UGRCXaZ No.614082 Reply
>>614030
> kpins dont show up on drug screens
neither does tianeptine

How do you not blow your brains out in the opi game?

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- Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:27:43 EST W0ct5kxG No.613668
File: 1582007263144.jpg -(16622B / 16.23KB, 480x362) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. How do you not blow your brains out in the opi game?
I've already suffered a subarachnoid hemorrhage, and I still use, it's just kratom these days luckily, and I'll take that over full agonist WD any day, but shit, kratom WD still isn't the greatest, the sleeplessness man, that's the worst. Also not to mention the insane stigma against us.

How do you guys stay sane?
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lol - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 09:35:09 EST IggaRoSW No.613674 Reply
>>613668
Just got sick of it all and got on maintenance granted I've been doing this for a long ass time, if opi addiction is enough to make you wanna shoot yourself then the things you naturally deal with in modern life are gonna kill you first. It sucks but there's a lot worse things out there, as far as the stigma learn that it's there because of scumbag and it's an unfortunate side effect of your choice to get high, buy the ticket take the ride as they say
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Barnaby Pickson - Tue, 18 Feb 2020 12:06:36 EST Mjy8E5PD No.613676 Reply
>>613672
I can't stand kratom. i'm a junkie and am always teetering in the overdose region with kratom.

Opiates vs Benzos (which is worse)

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- Wed, 26 Feb 2020 09:49:18 EST eHTflFIT No.613813
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Which addiction/withdrawal is worse comparing oxy orally and benzo? Also after long term use which of these two causes the least depletion of the natural endorphins / opiod receptor / gaba receptor etc. oxy is pretty hardcore i suppose it wrecks the natural endorphins a lot more than benzo?
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Reuben Nishfoot - Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:06:30 EST SUNa8wVi No.613952 Reply
>>613939
Pretty much this. Once you've experienced seizures there's not much opi WD can throw at you. Plus if you buy enough k to last a week then opi WD can be downright fun
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Graham Pendlebury - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 05:24:07 EST gE8yyxax No.614042 Reply
>>613952
If you have a small dissociative toleramce

Which most of us dont
Because it takes fucking yearssss to go down and mxe happened

K is best for the worse parts of w.d, hell yeah. 1 to 2 hour relief from everything

But if you have any toleramce you realllllyyy quickly get resistant again
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Lillian Tillingworth - Sat, 07 Mar 2020 19:12:50 EST OHIHxMID No.614051 Reply
A heavy Opi addiction -> CT you will want to kill your self
A heavy benzo addiction -> CT will kill you

You can get through a lot of bad opi WDs alone but w/ benz you’ll have to taper and if you don’t have the stuff to you’ll probably end up hospitalized if not dead

Heroin

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- Sat, 29 Feb 2020 03:43:23 EST LH0BPfvC No.613909
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So i have come to get my hands on some heroin the last days and of course have tried it. I am underwhelmed to say the least. Its rather pure stuff and does not contain Fentanyls (by the time of duration being ~ 12 h). It gives a nice itch and a nod and an overall opiatey feel. However there is very little euphoria. To be honest i have had better euphoria from Trams. Also my tolerance is nonexistant, as i have used Kratom two or three times a half year ago and harder opiates longer than a year ago. Am i doing it wrong or is heroin just shit?
What is all the hassle about?
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Thomas Trotstock - Fri, 06 Mar 2020 07:59:23 EST OY8VGOLR No.614025 Reply
>>613909
Yeah heroin for me is all about the IV rush. The actual high is OK, Or combining it with a stimulant like cocaine or crack. Now that's where its at. , I find dihydrocodeine at high doses to be much nicer.

coronavirus from middle eastern heroin?

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- Thu, 05 Mar 2020 20:12:56 EST yB2lulph No.614014
File: 1583457176354.jpg -(60232B / 58.82KB, 512x392) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. coronavirus from middle eastern heroin?
since Iran is a major smuggling route for european #3 heroin is it possible that coronavirus could survive in heroin similar to the anthrax tainted heroin case a few years (I realise Anthrax is a million times hardier than any virus but still). how long would you have to wait after buying to be sure that no surviving virus on the dope? would cooking kill any virus?
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Archie Bluffingshit - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 22:01:26 EST YofsFlfv No.614015 Reply
>>614014
put it the freezer for a week or so, also you could try heating the solution before use. only advice ive got.
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Matilda Henningville - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 22:42:21 EST Mjy8E5PD No.614017 Reply
>>614014
My advice is to not even worry about it. Seriously. Chances are slim to none you get the virus like that.

Strange amount of energy on heroin

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- Wed, 04 Mar 2020 19:48:45 EST Mjy8E5PD No.613990
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So I've done heroin a handful of times but I've found that it has a weird effect on me. If I do enough of course I will just be a nodding couch potato not doing much but nodding hard. But if I do less than that (enough just to feel good), I find myself having a lot of energy. Like I'll go around cleaning the apartment spotless or other weird shit like if I were on stimulants or something. Anyone else get like that or any other abnormal behavior on opiates you all have?
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Hugh Cidgeford - Wed, 04 Mar 2020 23:52:02 EST Mjy8E5PD No.613993 Reply
>>613992
Thanks. I'm a bit of an opiate novice so I wasn't sure if this might have something else in it or if it was normal like you just said. cheers and love m8
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Eliza Gimbleham - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 09:50:13 EST iC2qwFu7 No.614002 Reply
Thats normal with stuff like heroin, morphine(to a much lesser degree) and oxy, to a much higher degree.

But thats a testament of the quality of the euphoria, dogshit rcs like fent dont do that.
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Cedric Connerneck - Thu, 05 Mar 2020 10:26:27 EST ZSF+sx0n No.614005 Reply
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I've heard the same about Kratom and that the southeastern asians mostly take it more as a mild stimulant than anything else.
That may be a somewhat different effect as far as how the drug is working, but I think just not having any pain and feeling a nice little buzz is enough to perk you up for the days activities more than maybe you'd usually be.

Same if I take a lower dose of benzos. Technically it's sedating, but the burden of anxiety being lifted is itself enough to cause an increase in my activity at a lower dose than it takes for the sedative effects of the drug to knock me out or pin me to the couch.

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