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420chan is Getting Overhauled - Changelog/Bug Report/Request Thread (Updated July 26)

Bth

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- Wed, 07 Aug 2019 01:17:31 EST CQDB8/AC No.608933
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So here's a question. Besides coffee what do the lowly cut bth with?

Uldn solution

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- Thu, 01 Aug 2019 00:52:51 EST AIMXDUUy No.608667
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Hey I have a shitload of naltrexone and wanna make a solution. In the past i did it with like a liter of water and some citric acid, but since you only need to use such a small amount it kinda turned into a flaky strange tasting mess after a while.
I have a lot of propylene glycol. Would it be better using this?
Also I forgot all the basics about uldn, so if anyone wanna give me a short guide i would be thankful. But i can also google it. Didn't find anything about using pg though.
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Ernest Fiddleson - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 03:53:41 EST mxdTQBdl No.608765 Reply
>>608668
Thought or maybe even read somewhere citric acid helps with solubility.
But well thanks a ton for text! This will help a lot with having a lot less luicid to deal with. Yeah and maybe I'll just try it with pg, then.
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DTMO - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 05:35:25 EST WPH+dayt No.608769 Reply
>>608765
Are you kidding? You don't need to increase solubility, naltrexone is already quite water soluble. More to the point though, ULDN is extremely diluted so there's absolutely no way that the solution is going to reach saturation
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dr. m - Wed, 07 Aug 2019 00:12:35 EST /REg8U7t No.608931 Reply
>>608765

My understanding is pH neutral water works just fine. Instead of dissolving say one 50mg pill into an entire liter, I highly suggest creating a mother batch. Something like 50mg/50ml aka 1mg/ml is a perfect mother batch. Then you can take say 1ml of mother batch (1mg nltx) and mix it with 99ml of regular water, creating a solution that's roughly 10ug/ml. Then you can use a 1ml oral or IV syringe to measure as small as around ~0.2ml accurately, which in this case would be 2ug of naltrexone.

Shout out to the other Anon for saving my own walls of text. If you have more saved, please share. I'll try to make a new ULDN and general tolerance reduction thread in the next few weeks. If you guys didnt know, I'm currently the only leddit moderator for the currently nearly barren subleddit /r/ULDN. Eventually I plan to post full length guides on that sub.

Please consider getting on the bandwagon and communicating with me so I can get a better data set.

OP, just FYI, 50ug might be a bit too much for normal users. At the time I was consuming like 1000-2000mg+ of morphine with double the normal half-life, so 50-100ug might be too much for shorter acting opioids, or at least lower tolerance individuals.

The actual "literature" (more like fragmented stage 2 and 3 trials) suggests dosing between like ~2-20ug/day. Personally I think a dose of around 10ug will benefit over 99% of users, with doses as high as 20-25ug/day possibly being fairly tolerated by the vast majority of users.

So yeah, definitely use at least 10ug/day, preferably 20-25ug/day, for an entire month before you write it off as placebo. The science of how it works makes logical sense.

ULDN is also very useful for trying to get clean from opioids. Instead of just tapering, you can VERY slowly increase your ULDN dose from 1 up to 200ug+/day, making opioids less euphoric (somewhat similar to how full strength nltx works to help alcoholics get clean) and reducing your future withdrawal.

So yeah, please check out the sub and post your experiences both here and there. Just please dont abuse that sub's ability to be a knowledgeable tool by trying to solicit me for drugs, whether legal or illegal. I'm not interested in getting banned from 420chan or leddit.

I'll be starting up a new ULDN cycle in about 6 days. This time I'll be using it alongside bupe though, so it's likely to only be like 25-50% as effective as ULDN is with normal opioids simply because nltx's metabolite has less binding affinity than buprenorphine, meaning I'll only get the benefits of naltrexone itself (~4hr half life) and nothing from its metabolite (IIRC ~13hr half-life).

Long term I plan to jack my uldn dose up up and away before decreasing my bupe dose below 3mg. Hopefully this will make actually tapering down to ~1.5mg snorted solution or 2mg sublingual/day much more feasible.

Welbutrin/Bupropion

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- Sun, 04 Aug 2019 07:40:11 EST H8Mq5/ED No.608774
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Thinking of grabbing some Kratom, but since being on Wellbutrin, à lot of drug classes are off-limits, particularly any stims, so I've had to shelve my MDPV (which is also an NDRI) coke, MDMA.

And there are a few stim effects of Kratom... So does anyone know if this is a safe combo, or anyone here on Welbutrin too?

Opiates still work great, but I'd rather not last through my stash unnecessarily.

The plus side is taking shrooms is INSANE on Welbutrin. It seems to potentiate them by 2-3x.

Thanks!
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Charles Drullyhood - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 21:31:41 EST H8Mq5/ED No.608808 Reply
>>608787
It's co-something, can't remember the term. What I do know is it increases your seizure risk precipitously, and after you have one seizure, your next is increasingly more likely, and the next is more likely than that one, etc.

My doc is a really good guy, knows I 'party' is not judgey. He sat me down and said doing cocaine, meth, M, etc at best will do minor neurological damage while I'm on bupropion, but at worst it could kill me and increase my seizure risk for life. So I trust him.

Just want to know if Kratom has similar stim properties to the amphetamine class of drugs.
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 23:51:38 EST 7Y8izlLY No.608814 Reply
>>608808
>Just want to know if Kratom has similar stim properties to the amphetamine class of drugs.
No and it also has at least 2 alks with anti-convulsant properties.
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Phoebe Fuckingford - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 22:52:28 EST n7YbD7iE No.608924 Reply
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Kratom acts on the same receptors as opiates so the effects are similar in some ways I think you'd be alright.

Show me your scales

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- Tue, 06 Aug 2019 18:22:38 EST nh2AEG+6 No.608890
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This scale hasn't needed new batteries for years
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hsn - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 21:07:18 EST cA+802PK No.608906 Reply
>>608890
good god man, take a wet paper towel to that bad boy every now and then. granted mine would look like that after a month or so but still. cant be handing your boys a crusty ass scale like that.

Methadone first time

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- Tue, 06 Aug 2019 10:50:55 EST mfpmavzs No.608872
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So I'm planning to buy .1 of methadone and the only opioid I've done prior was tramadol. How does it compare to methadone in terms of intensity, addiction profile, etc? It's a noobie question, but I never was addicted to tramadol, and I know methadone is hell of a lot stronger, so what would be a good way of using it in moderation?
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dr. m - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:39:28 EST /REg8U7t No.608883 Reply
>>608878

Dont take more than like 5mg of methadone your first time. The high can last several days for a noob so dont redose or mix it with anything else. Once per week is the absolute maximum, but twice a month would be smarter. Whatever you do, dont take over 10mg. Supposedly some people have died from as little as 20mg with no tolerance.
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Dextrolord - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 15:26:17 EST t9+obISS No.608886 Reply
>>608872

Like everyone else said, start with a really low dose, if u have no tolerance 5mg would probably even be enough to start to get a feel for it. My brother would nod hard off of 10-15mg while I was taking at least 100 to feel it.. also it takes a while to kick in. Like 90 minutes to start feeling it and around 3 hours to be peaking so don't refuse to soon
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Charles Hishridge - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 17:18:10 EST n1rPDN7V No.608888 Reply
I've overdosed on methadone nearly 24 hours after taking it due to drinking. Woke up in the hospital and it was the most miserable of the 3 times I've gone over. Be careful with that shit mang

I've beaten addiction

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!a3gwI1WYUs - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 00:19:21 EST vghObmYX No.608818
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For now, that is. I still use but I can stop for days without plunging into withdrawal. I still use Klonopin too, but I'm not addicted to it. I use weed and CBD oil for pain and depression, and I did use kratom for about a month. It has been a slow process full of many setbacks, but I've made it so far.

It's the most wonderful feeling after nodding. I spend so much time in nature. Colors are brighter, I notice little things like cardinals nesting. I can go out without fearing I'll need to slink away for a fix. I'm more focused in my political activism. I do food not bombs and serve great food to many current addicts.

Good luck to all of you struggling with addiction. It's so very hard but there is hope for you.
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lol - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 09:06:53 EST oaWRMjn3 No.608869 Reply
>>608868
God damn tablet is broken.
It blows my mind that a ton of younger kids got high through pst and using DNMs have never had to get involved in street shit. Its definitely a good thing. I wish i was born later so i didnt ruin my record, ability to vote, ability to own a firearm, leave country etc...
I have been on methadone since 2015 now, i haven't used dope since then and have no cravings, dont consider myself clean though since i take benz every month atleast a few time and smoke weed daily.
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Molly Bruggleridge - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 09:37:55 EST ILrvNPa0 No.608870 Reply
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>>608869
Yeah I never would've had access to H without DNMs, I don't think. One day I just had a fuck it attitude while browsing and put some H in the basket. I enjoyed pain killers before hand from experience with pharma but never knew any friends or associates that used opiates. I even made the jump to IV, after becoming dependent, by ordering the needles and other equipment online and googling how to shoot up. Madness.
But yeah you're right I didn't have to deal with street shit and end up with a record, and because I didn't actually associate with anyone on the stuff it made it easier to get off when I ran out of money.
Benz are the worst, that was the result of internet durgz. Main problem with benz I've found is drug treatment people usually have no fucking clue about them and completely downplay the difficulty with them. You can't just go on a supervised tapering plan like you can with H using methadone. You're essentially on your own, at least where I live anyway.

How do *you* chase the dragon?

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- Tue, 06 Aug 2019 03:08:19 EST ILrvNPa0 No.608862
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I usually get in like a half gram every few months or so and IV it all; it's fun and I normally only get mild withdrawals. I used to be an everyday IV user back in the day.
Anyway I'm out of needles and shit in a new town and buying the equipment online is more expensive than the H itself. I have no needles to exchange with so I can't get any free stuff.
Next best option is to smoke the stuff. Thing is I want the rush you get with IV but I can never seem to catch enough smoke/vapour at once to do it. It's nice and all but nothing compared.
How do you guys smoke H? I usually just get a bit of rolled up foil, put the lighter under the sheet foil and suck in the smoke curls, but I always miss some, and it's not like I'm inexperienced doing it. I wonder if there's some clever method of hitting up a shit load of vapour at once without burning the stuff?
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Phineas Waffingridge - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 14:18:40 EST GMRBsnyU No.608885 Reply
>>608862
Put it on foil, lighter underneath it, watch it all burn and inhale some awful shit just to realize I can't smoke for shit and should stick to shooting up. Nb shitpost

HEP C CLUB

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- Sat, 03 Aug 2019 08:15:09 EST LZ2GiWn6 No.608732
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You got it, I got it. If you were an avid IV drug user, you've probably got it. Hep C thread, boyssss. Go get some bloodwork done! Has anyone noticed any symptoms since contracting this disease? I'm currently in treatment for 3 months and will never touch the needle again as the hepatitis C mixed with alcohol kinda did some damage to my liver :/
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dr. m - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 06:10:01 EST /REg8U7t No.608822 Reply
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>>608732

Does Hep A count? How about Hep A+kava+booze all in one?

:( nb
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 22:49:23 EST 7Y8izlLY No.608856 Reply
>>608820
>why put more holes in your body then necessary?
I was saying to use a fresh needle and syringe everytime and that I even use 2 needles: one to draw with and one to inject.

I'm not sure how you get that I am putting more holes in my body that way. I use one needle to draw up the solution from the container and then I switch needles on the syringe before I insert, aspirate, and inject. You IM test btw not IV. I only IV maybe a handful of times a year.

It may be ineffecient in that it uses 2 needles and takes an extra 10 seconds to switch needles out but they are cheap as shit and its better. I don't have a blunted tip from going into the test container nor any pathogens to worry about since I swap needles immediately before pinning in my glutes and quads.
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Thants !IZgeXR9w82 - Tue, 06 Aug 2019 13:13:54 EST OgX3IMCX No.608884 Reply
>>608856
wow idk where my head was at with that question. when I read draw for some reason I thought you meant to like flag your shot (to show you were hitting a vein), I don't know why I didn't consider "draw" to be "to draw the shot from the filter/cooker." nb

opioid activities

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- Tue, 25 Jun 2019 03:24:09 EST 4tsYqeia No.607358
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what do u do on opioids
i dont understand the appeal 0_0
i snort some oxymorphone my dopehead friend gives me
like 90mg
i cant focus on the tv (i was watching house) so i turn off the show
just lay in bed bored
wtf is the point of this shit it has good euphoria and all but i cant focus my eyes on the television i just get double vision
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Priscilla Pockman - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 15:31:51 EST nuztW1TN No.608847 Reply
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It started out to be a thing I did with my financee. He had just asked me to move in and I had put the shooting pills game away for 7 years but then I found his paraphernalia. I was snorting tec and meth and smoking weed though. I thought I could remain a supportive by stander, I lasted for 2 months. Then I got fired for sleeping through my alarm and I said fuck it. I had quit tec for 3 days and bought a bag of rigs.
He hit me with a op g 20
And he said I made the same noise I make when I orgasm when it hit me. I got really hot and got down to my bra and panties and laid on him. Neither of us had done that with a s.o. He told a mutual friend it had become a fetish for him and it also me. We would fix up op and just cuddle and lay on each other. I loved it when he would kinda molest me.
Sometimes we would get really silly and lovey. It helped me lower my inhibitions to discover I'm a true little, not like a baby in a diaper but more like a naughty little girl who tries to touch daddy or tease him.
When he was in jail, after I woke up and after work id fix up lay on my bed , take off pants and bra and just AHhh with my kitty cat. I fucking hate driving when I'm high after shooting my DOC (op 40 g74....BINGO. )
After about 30 minutes of just enjoying the buzz I have increased energy and usually start doing chores or sucking my man's dick.

Norco?

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- Sat, 03 Aug 2019 11:51:35 EST MweOXUwC No.608738
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How can i make it fun? I have adderall too.
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dr. m - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 11:23:20 EST /REg8U7t No.608833 Reply
>>608753

It's pretty much common junkie knowledge that polydrug combo use alongside opioids isn't worth it for users with basically no opioid tolerance. This is especially true if they also have low or no tolerance to the other drug they intend to mix. For me and I'd say most people who dont smoke/vape/eat cannabis regularly, it easily overpowers the opioid high, especially for mid strength oral opioids like hydrocodone or oral pharma morphine.

This goes for cannabis, benzos, or arguably even stimulants, but stimulants are definitely debatable. The only drugs that tend to be beneficial for everyone to combine with opioids are zofran aka ondansetron (best nausea med there is), 25-50mg dph aka benadryl (25mg if you arent experienced with benadryl, or 50mg if you know it wont mess you up too much) for itching and somewhat helps nausea, and optionally muscle relaxers, e.g. methocarbamol, cyclobenzaprine, soma, etc. Potentiators can be helpful, particularly cimetidine and white grapefruit from concentrate, but it totally depends on the opioid and shouldn't be used by those not educated in their effects.

>OP, take 15mg all at once. Only dose once a week max.
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guardian_angel !LhwrleQFRU!!fAsQkk7h - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 11:36:40 EST eRtkGBSG No.608834 Reply
>>608738
I would actually smoke some bud too..

Cold Turkey from 4mg/day suboxone

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- Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:03:19 EST rnJWscrC No.608167
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it's not the deepest anyone's been into wds by a long shot but god damn this shit sucks. does anyone have tips to make the wds suck less? idk if i wanna get on the lope train bc i dont want to slow this down. nsaids/tylenol are sort of helping but not much. seriously anything that could make this better would be really appreciated.
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Edward Dannerbanks - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 17:18:25 EST mVdQssMv No.608792 Reply
>>608788

Interesting to know, its just that I've read about oldheads that swear diconal and palfium were the holy grail of opiates, that even when they changed the formula some people kept IV'ing it and as a result lost limbs, so I was always curious about those
Weird to know high times talked about fucking diconal of all things lol
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George Sublinglat - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 18:17:09 EST 9FVBmnW1 No.608793 Reply
>>608747
Lol lou reed no mr obvious-selection-master-mainstream-suggestion
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 05 Aug 2019 07:46:21 EST XblCFLPe No.608825 Reply
>>608788
Another older guy I speak to is from the Uk and had his experience with palfium and diconal. Apparently they're quite amazing. The whole "injecting methadone with cyclizine" phase is because of diconal. Dipipanone is structurally very close to methadone and dikes had cyclizine in it already. It's interesting because I know that cyclizine takes a bit of work to make IVable. It's got a terrible water solubility. So who knows? A lot of people from that generation also claimed that weed was stronger back in the day which is generally accepted to be untrue now. I wonder a lot about how oxy will be viewed in 50 plus years. Will there be guys saying it was the bees knees? Some wolf of wall street movie where he claims they have the rush and euphoria of super-meth and the soporific placidity of uber-heroin perhaps..

I'd still love to try them though. I heard one of them pretty sure it was the peach palfiums, were called terminators as people were going blue all over the place. There are a few open chain opiods I'd love to do.

Do not use ice internally. Fent. I could not would not in a tent.

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- Sun, 04 Aug 2019 08:47:35 EST eE7xOTJ8 No.608777
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Holy shitballs you guys. It finally happened.

So I had been on OPI (drugs not website) of one sort or another for... 22 years. Goddamn. Anyways I just had my longest stretch of what I call sobriety after moving to a pot farm in central Cali. Around 4 months (counting days just makes you more depressed when you do eventually relapse.) So anyways I get back to LA and specifically don't see dope man and instead visit a friend who just completed a 9 month stint in a luxo rehab place. I get there and hes got foil everywhere.

"So... What you got going on here?"

"Fentanyl. Wanna hit it?"

"Naw, I'm straight."

"Good for you! Kerchunk! Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... Whoooo. Kerchunk! Suuuuuuuuuck.... Whooo. Kerchunk! Suuuu"

"Of course I want some!"

"Kerchunk! Kerchunk! Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... Whoo"

And then I wake up half naked on the floor with two people I don't know standing over me looking incredibly relieved. One runs off.

"Shit. I almost die?"

She nods.

"You have to Narcan me?"

"Like 1/3 the bottle. We couldn't find a vein. How come you're not in withdrawal?"

"I'm not tolerant any... Goddammit! Did he shove ice cubes in my ass!"

She nods.
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:30:02 EST 7Y8izlLY No.608803 Reply
>>608777
I admire the effort but it doesn't have the feel of the original ice cubes in ass pasta.

Buying Needles?

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- Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:47:47 EST eavKd+Jl No.608583
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How do you find out what type of needles you need for shooting heroin? Ive gotten needles in the past from the needle exchange but i just moved and there isnt one here. I still have a few left from there but i do not know what to ask for when purchasing them at a store.
Pic unrelated.
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Polly Bimmerlack - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 05:08:51 EST WY87UYdU No.608609 Reply
>>608605
I never understood why government would make access to works harder or make possession illegal. Like what the fuck is the point? People will just come up with some dangerous ideas (check out Junkie by W. Burroughs, there are some hardcore ways of injecting without syringe described there) or reuse the same needles or syringes over and over again. It's also very weird for me because last time there were some restrictions in terms of iv equipment in my country, Soviet Union was still a thing.
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Linux - Tue, 30 Jul 2019 15:35:22 EST xsimTaa8 No.608620 Reply
>>608583
I would alway purchase 31 gauge 6mm or 8mm length needles. The 28 gauge needles they give out at needle exchanges are fucking huge and unless you have deep fucking veins that are huge you are gonna damage your veins quick. I like the BD brand needles just not the rounded removable head ones cause those are a pain in the ass sometimes.
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Shitting Gollerbet - Sun, 04 Aug 2019 00:47:05 EST nuztW1TN No.608764 Reply
There's a diabetic site where you can get them super cheap

Pregabalin and Dihydrocodeine

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- Thu, 01 Aug 2019 08:25:09 EST XMas9HFP No.608675
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Hi!

I am taking 600mg-1200mg Pregabalin for about 2-3 days, then I only take 200mg for 3 days in order to lower my tolerance again.

Now I will be getting 30mg Dihydrocodeine tablets.
Can I combine them with Pregabalin or would this cause breathing problems or other severe problems?

How much Dihydrocodeine is safe for a nice feeling as a beginner?

Can I stop Pregabalin altogether for 3 days and only take Dihydrocodeine?
When I stop Pregabalin completely, I always get bad anxiety and headaches.

Thank you for your help!
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Graham Druvingdale - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:32:52 EST tsg8453p No.608690 Reply
>>608686
Snorting opiates is usually a waste. Swallow, inject or put it in the butt.
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Rebecca Hisslewadging - Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:07:11 EST WPH+dayt No.608696 Reply
>>608684
Codeine ceiling effect is a myth.

>>608686
Pregabalin has ≥90% oral BA, snorting it is pretty much guaranteed to be less effective.

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